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TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?
today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.
4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure.... great pump
then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..
then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy
45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.
seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.
looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.
insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.
anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?
oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs
*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml
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I hope they amputate bro
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If you need surgery you’ll definitely need to see a doc, no matter what.
Tri your best..
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You almost have as many physical problems as bhanks.
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Myself I would definitely have surgery if I thought this would affect look or function in the future too much. I tore my bicep but I'm sure I probably might have made an ok recovery without surgery but I don't want my arm to look as unbalanced as Dorian's.
I have some smaller tears where there is a some deformity but it doesn't affect look much at all, like my hamstring is partially torn and my teardrop muscle tore and shortened but not too bad, no performance difference. Anyway, I always knew almost right away what kind of injury it was, I could feel it.
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Myself I would definitely have surgery if I thought this would affect look or function in the future too much. I tore my bicep but I'm sure I probably might have made an ok recovery without surgery but I don't want my arm to look as unbalanced as Dorian's.
I have some smaller tears where there is a some deformity but it doesn't affect look much at all, like my hamstring is partially torn and my teardrop muscle tore and shortened but not too bad, no performance difference. Anyway, I always knew almost right away what kind of injury it was, I could feel it.
Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|
Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo
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TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?
today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.
4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure.... great pump
then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..
then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy
45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.
seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.
looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.
insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.
anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?
oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs
*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml
Lots of reps for several sets for triceps, if you can do 15 reps then do them. You now know overhead movements can be dangerous. See a doctor asap because medical procedures should be done soon after an injury.
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Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|
Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo
Damn bro! I would ease up on the workouts.
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Yea if I have the option I'd have surgery 100% but I'd have to fall in a grocery store or something jk :|
Both my bi's are torn, and both delts have surgery scars... My triceps were the last untouched muscle group.. even my back has tears/adhesions etc from powerlifter years... from armpit to elbow, good "horseshoe", lateral head striated to the elbow blah blah blah .... Just hoped Id always have them . Boohoo
I guess you never heard the term "I learned my lesson"
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You should first know what happened. If you had a total tear, no amount of TB500 will fix it, only surgery. Ice it and a week after it is possible to check if you had a total tear or not by testing your strenght in a specific range of movement/hand position. If you are lean enough, that can be accessed visually also.
Given the amount of "aids" you use to get by, pain will be a poor marker to check for.
In before you know what's wrong, stop training to avoid further damage and possible internal bleeding. And other thing, when you restart training, the load of that tendon will go to the other two, so adjust the poundages to that.
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TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?
today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.
4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure.... great pump
then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..
then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy
45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.
seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.
looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.
insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.
anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?
oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs
*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml
after reading this again I can just see you in the gym strutting around screaming and shouting wearing crazee wear baggies, Tank top and wide neck cap sleeve sweatshirt
smelling salts for a set you tricep extension FFS
Top tip , take it easy, it anit that serious, you are going nowhere compwise at your age, you aint gonna getr much bigger at your age.
Chill the fuck out and you may actually get the odd person nod or smile at you in the gym instead of shaking their heads and hiding laughs
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"big stretching" is always the same stupidity again and again.
You can't fix anything without surgery.
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If it is truly torn, you can't fix it without surgery. But you can let it heal on it's own which will result in some kind of odd shape to it afterwards. See a doctor just to be sure before you decide on what to do.
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I tore long head of my tri one yr ago
reason: a bad AAS cycle. Test, primo, mast. I got dry, cramps doing nothing. Terrible. Got tons of minor strains, and a big one.
Went to see a sports MD. He did ultrasound. Estimated ~25% tear. Important part being: I did not need surgery.
Get it checkd by a sports MD. Ultrasound and maybe MRI
My impression is surgery needed if tear about 50% or more.
- was NOT needed in my case
I heard a looooud pop, lots of bruising, pain.
I am back to heavy lifting now! I actually tored it doing WG Pull ups. Like levrone did...tore it doing heavy WG pulldowns.. He needed big surgery.
Sorry but stay strong and keep up hope. I am doing just fine now!
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I took 5 weeks off lifting and then went back with very light DB pressing, light pushdowns.
Eased back into back training too
Like I said my tear was ~25%. rough estimate. NOT 50%. I went to a very famous sports MD here who is expert with ultrasound. I suggest you do the same.
He clearly said to me the result was good news, "as I don't need to do surgery"
Without the US I would not know if the tear was "medium" like mine, or worse, needing surgery.
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There’s a good doctor in California. They can arrange pick and drop service via third party for free as well
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This sucks - hope you recover fully... I guess the operation will cost a few grand?
After the procedure I would go to a therapist to release all tense tissue(all over the body), then stretch and after that continue training with lighter loads.
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A couple of thoughts. This is coming from someone that had a complete rupture.
1. See an orthopedic surgeon and tell the girl making appointments that you think you completely tore the muscle off the bone. Yes, it could be a partial tear but you have to be seen quickly. My doc said if you wait over a week the surgery has a higher failure rate.
2. He will order an MRI to actually see where the triceps attaches.
3. See an orthopedic practice where they have specialize surgeons. Meaning they have a hip guy, knee guy, foot guy and a shoulders down guy. These general ortho guys generally aren't up on the latest techniques and stink at fixing things because they don't specialize.
4. If it's a partial tear you will recover from the surgery pretty quick. If it's a complete rupture then you will be lifting insanely light after about 6 weeks and will regain your strength after about 5 months or so.
5. After the operation think about what would be a safer exercise in your future. Some exercises are just inherently more dangerous than others concerning your tendons.
6. When mine happened I thought my lifting days was over. At around 6 months after the surgery I told my 130lbs surgeon what I was lifting and he told me I was going to ruin his work but it held up. I'm old and infirmed now, lol, but the repair held up and it's over 20 years now. Yates tore off his tricep and it was never could be repaired properly because he waited too long.
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When I was rehabbing my bicep after surgery I saw the surgeon for follow up he asked me how I was lifting for the bicep and I said I train ut a lot but am mindful of the weights I use. He said no, we want you back 100% to your old loads, by now you should almost be back fully. This was maybe 12 weeks after I was cleared to start loading. Just don't yank the weights he said, otherwise you can go at 100%. Another friend said when he had surgery his surgeon said he was back 100% after 6 weeks, big guy with lots of muscle. Sounded a bit unbelievable after a full tear bicep surgery?
I remember on Elitefts, talking about Westside, when someone tore something and didn't require surgery they did prolotherapy with tons of water injections to stimulate a healing response. I have no idea if that is smart but I might try it, only with those peptides and more instead of just water :D
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When I was rehabbing my bicep after surgery I saw the surgeon for follow up he asked me how I was lifting for the bicep and I said I train ut a lot but am mindful of the weights I use. He said no, we want you back 100% to your old loads, by now you should almost be back fully. This was maybe 12 weeks after I was cleared to start loading. Just don't yank the weights he said, otherwise you can go at 100%. Another friend said when he had surgery his surgeon said he was back 100% after 6 weeks, big guy with lots of muscle. Sounded a bit unbelievable after a full tear bicep surgery?
I remember on Elitefts, talking about Westside, when someone tore something and didn't require surgery they did prolotherapy with tons of water injections to stimulate a healing response. I have no idea if that is smart but I might try it, only with those peptides and more instead of just water :D
My bicep ripped completely off the bone and rolled up to the delt. No way in hell would I be able to use heavy weights in 6 weeks. It took a couple of weeks for the nerve damage to go away too. Part of my hand was numb.
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My bicep ripped completely off the bone and rolled up to the delt. No way in hell would I be able to use heavy weights in 6 weeks. It took a couple of weeks for the nerve damage to go away too. Part of my hand was numb.
I still have some skin numbness after over 2 years. Muscle is as before for the most part, maybe just a tiny bit weaker than the other. Surgeon wrote, "patient came in surgery way too late," it was like 12 weeks after injury. Despite this, good result. Of course I know they should be done immediately but I can't rush the system here, pisses me off. I was amazed at what the guy was saying, "I took rehab extremely seriously, trained it every day, all day" etc but I was a bit skeptical but I don't have the expertise to say if it was bs.
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I tore my bicep tendon at the shoulder. Had it reattached three weeks later. After 19 weeks of physical therapy it was better than before the injury.
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If you need surgery you’ll definitely need to see a doc, no matter what.
Tri your best..
He needs to see a psychiatrist first.
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I tore my bicep tendon at the shoulder. Had it reattached three weeks later. After 19 weeks of physical therapy it was better than before the injury.
How was it better than before?
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How was it better than before?
The tendon was irritated at my shoulder for a couple of years making it uncomfortable to even bench press. When the surgeon reattached the tendon he did it sub pectoral, eliminating any future discomfort at the shoulder. I also had rotator cuff repair at the same time.
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I tore my bicep tendon at the shoulder. Had it reattached three weeks later. After 19 weeks of physical therapy it was better than before the injury.
How did you tear it?
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I'm pretty sure the tendon had been damaged for some time. But, the final detachment happened pulling really hard across my body on a repair at work.
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The bicep tendon on my other arm also gives me trouble. As long as it stays attached I don't want to go through surgery and the long rehab to get it fixed.
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TL/DR; think I torn my tricep, long head doing overhead ext's. fix's without surgery?
today was my Friday, so lil back touch up and then bi/tri/delt/traps.
4 sets of pulldowns, wide grip. great pump
1 set of 1 arm lever-row x failure.... great pump
then to overhead ez-bar/close tricep ext
1st set 10lbs x 6, 2nd set 25lbs ea side x6
felt light coulda done 20..
then 35lbs per side x6.. felt like coulda done 15. I've used up to 140lb db overhead ext 2 hand since 2000, & 185 skull crushers a few wks ago, so this shouldn't be too heavy
45lbs on each side.. took a big whiff of smelling salts, rev curl and press the bar up, then coming up just out of the bottom of the first rep I felt a 'pop' in what felt like my long head triceps at the insertion in the armpit.
seriously thought I was gonna have an anxiety attack lol... pre workout 98mm Sour Diesel didn't help that.
looking back, wasn't a good idea to head straight to overhead ext's from big stretching/pumping sets of pulldowns and lever rows... coulda torn a lat or tires muscle as well I suppose.
insurance won't pay to fix it I'm sure. anyone know if Kaiser will fix a torn tricep?? suppose I could go to the hospital and say I was doing box jumps and fell on my shoulder and maybe get an MRI. my insurance sure didn't mind a fuck ton of MRI's for my hand a couple months ago.
anyone else torn a tricep? long head? lat? recovery time?
oh fuck... what a coincidence. I have a few extra bottles of bps and tb500 that I was gonna use for my leg and neck and stomach.... now I suppose I gotta use it on this now too.. ffs
*forgot to add, it feels like a finger thick 'knot' 'inside' the long head.. and the tricep feels like its contracting when just typing this. and something feels 'off' in my armpit at the lat insertion. fml
Aren’t you locked up in prison for dealing heroin!
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after reading this again I can just see you in the gym strutting around screaming and shouting wearing crazee wear baggies, Tank top and wide neck cap sleeve sweatshirt
smelling salts for a set you tricep extension FFS
Top tip , take it easy, it anit that serious, you are going nowhere compwise at your age, you aint gonna getr much bigger at your age.
Chill the fuck out and you may actually get the odd person nod or smile at you in the gym instead of shaking their heads and hiding laughs
I always knew you were stupid, this just confirms it, as I'm none of those things
Typical gaslighting from you, again. You're a 60+ year old autistic arrogant troll. Your first response to this thread didn't get enough attention from me so you couldn't wait to post a second. Begs of desperation for attention.
Didn't even bother to read the rest of whatever you wrote, so if you think it's important, type it again.
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I always knew you were stupid, this just confirms it, as I'm none of those things
Typical gaslighting from you, again. You're a 60+ year old autistic arrogant troll. Your first response to this thread didn't get enough attention from me so you couldn't wait to post a second. Begs of desperation for attention.
Didn't even bother to read the rest of whatever you wrote, so if you think it's important, type it again.
you are no stranger to talking shite
assuming it's 300mg/ml deca, 300mg/ml eq, and 300mg test (either cyp or most likely enan); that's 10cc test, 4cc deca, and 4cc eq. 18cc total.
that's 6 shots of 3cc each. 3cc each delt, 3cc each glute, 3cc each quad total each week. not that difficult to do. I did 15 yesterday (and 2 today of 150 tren & 150 npp), and I don't carry the mass of Jason Huh or Faoud... so if I can handle 15 (hell, I used to do upwards of 30cc in a day... years ago), i'm sure guys in the 275+ range can handle quite a bit more with no problem.
30cc and you looked like this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)
11 years older than that now, would love to see todays look on over a gram of anadrol a week
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I tore long head of my tri one yr ago
reason: a bad AAS cycle. Test, primo, mast. I got dry, cramps doing nothing. Terrible. Got tons of minor strains, and a big one.
Went to see a sports MD. He did ultrasound. Estimated ~25% tear. Important part being: I did not need surgery.
Get it checkd by a sports MD. Ultrasound and maybe MRI
My impression is surgery needed if tear about 50% or more.
- was NOT needed in my case
I heard a looooud pop, lots of bruising, pain.
I am back to heavy lifting now! I actually tored it doing WG Pull ups. Like levrone did...tore it doing heavy WG pulldowns.. He needed big surgery.
Sorry but stay strong and keep up hope. I am doing just fine now!
Levrone's tear was the first thing I thought of when it happened.
Luckily woke up with no bruising so that's a relief, but the arm itself feels swollen, and I can feel a long "knot" for lack of a better description alone the long head, but I can't see any visible gap between my tri/lat/delt tie-in.
Thanks for mentioning the ultrasound to estimate the tear, didn't know you could do that.
Taking this coming week off from anything that pulls at the tri, if not the whole week in general and see how it feels.
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I always knew you were stupid, this just confirms it, as I'm none of those things
Typical gaslighting from you, again. You're a 60+ year old autistic arrogant troll. Your first response to this thread didn't get enough attention from me so you couldn't wait to post a second. Begs of desperation for attention.
Didn't even bother to read the rest of whatever you wrote, so if you think it's important, type it again.
And you're a junkie.
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you are no stranger to talking shite
30cc and you looked like this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)
11 years older than that now, would love to see todays look on over a gram of anadrol a week
Again with the gaslighting.
Literally everything you type.
You literally posted in my thread running your special Ed mouth, then you try to turn it around on me?
Are you really that stupid?
Isn't trolling illegal in the UK? Care you don't end up in jail because you're so desperate for attention.
Fucking loser living in fairytale land with posts of mine from 11years ago ready on standby.
Thanks for being a fan.
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Again with the gaslighting.
Literally everything you type.
You literally posted in my thread running your special Ed mouth, then you try to turn it around on me?
Are you really that stupid?
Isn't trolling illegal in the UK? Care you don't end up in jail because you're so desperate for attention.
Fucking loser living in fairytale land with posts of mine from 11years ago ready on standby.
Thanks for being a fan.
as one asshole leaves another returns to take his place
Do you really want me to drag some your old posts?
(I have just been perusing, they are fucking gold)
We have several new people who missed how big of a douche you were last time out
Oh and look up "gaslighting" i dont think you know what it means
I will just leave this here
this x2
... I use heavy doses and i'm no pro. Am I the best guy in the gym? probably in my particular gym. lol... but if I go across town there's guys wayyyy bigger than me.... i'll run 3g test and 900 npp and 150-200 dbol like it's nothing... with 200mcg igf1 and insulin (I only run 10iu at night now, maybe 10iu twice a day... but 60+ in the past).... and I can easily bump up to 5g test, 1500 npp or 2g deca plus whatever else I feel my body would respond to at the time and I still won't be a 'pro'... I stay lean as hell and eat tons of carbs, so shirt off I look like a bber who'd use 1g test and 100/day tren, (i'm exaggerating a lil.. i'm pretty grainy and vascular, and probably an obvious user), but get comments everyday like 'holy fuck dude, whatever you're doing, keep doing it"... ect.... but they'd never believe me if I said how much I really took.... and i'm sure that's true for A LOT of guys... I move a lot of product to guys who I know is for personal use and don't even look like they're users.. and that's top-notch gear, i'm almost embarrassed to have them say they use my stuff. lol...... .... some have the genes, some don't.
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Smelling salts for a tricep extension. Nice.
Why can’t people just be normal ???
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Smelling salts for a tricep extension. Nice.
Why can’t people just be normal ???
It's 6-7pm by the time I'm training, I'd rather not have more than a cup of coffee pre workout and smelling salts give a short, number-of-seconds, epinephrine release and doesn't affect me after.
Why can't people be normal? Why can't people resist the urge to wave their virtue-flag and attempt to shame people, essentially complete strangers, at every preceived opportunity?
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It's 6-7pm by the time I'm training, I'd rather not have more than a cup of coffee pre workout and smelling salts give a short, number-of-seconds, epinephrine release and doesn't affect me after.
Why can't people be normal? Why can't people resist the urge to wave their virtue-flag and attempt to shame people, essentially complete strangers, at every preceived opportunity?
fuck off with the high dollar word salads.
I’m not “shaming” you (no homo). There’s a million men and women that work out (you don’t train, you’re not an athlete, you simply work out) at that time. Approximately “0” of them need smelling salts to push them through their session. Stop it.
You self admit to pushing extreme levels of gear, yet dudes on TRT look better than you any other photo you have ever produced.
Every 6 months it seems like you are updating the board with your current self induced health scare, yet here we are again.
If memory serves, by now you are creeping up on 50, maybe already there? You are absolutely never going to be in the shape you think you should be.
I like you and have defended you historically, but time to turn your brain on.
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you are no stranger to talking shite
30cc and you looked like this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)
11 years older than that now, would love to see todays look on over a gram of anadrol a week
Narrow collarbones, wide hips, wide waist, small arms with short insertions, lots of tendons, don't do surgery it won't show on your physique. Keep your money and stop gears, for the financial cost and the deleterious effects on health there is no point in continuing.
Basically you don't have the structure for bodybuilding but in addition you don't respond well to PED's and given the number of injuries you have had you don't know how to train and you have never learned from your errors.
Stop everything.
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It's 6-7pm by the time I'm training, I'd rather not have more than a cup of coffee pre workout and smelling salts give a short, number-of-seconds, epinephrine release and doesn't affect me after.
Why can't people be normal? Why can't people resist the urge to wave their virtue-flag and attempt to shame people, essentially complete strangers, at every preceived opportunity?
says the guy who can take grams of heroin that doesnt affect him, multiple grams of tren which doesnt stop him sleeping
Tramadol and morphine dont phase him but oh no, cant be having a cup of coffee 5 hours before bed
Fuck off asshole
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Smelling salts for a tricep extension. Nice.
Why can’t people just be normal ???
I must say that one made me chuckle.
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I must say that one made me chuckle.
I wouldn't doubt that posters on this board use smelling salts and poppers interchangeably.
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Every 6 months it seems like you are updating the board with your current self induced health scare, yet here we are again.
this is what he does, hes MIA for months even years then pops up oozing puss out of another abscess or his legs blown up like balloons from some dumb thing hes been doing
I was having chest pains and they admitted me and once they did all the tests and shit... each fuckin time they let me go.
I've got 4 fucken ambulance rides to pay for and about $3k in meds.
each time was "severe Sinus Tachycardia" ranging from 220-280 HR and BP of 280-something/160-something.
AND fuckers, my tox-screen was NEGATIVE before you say "overdose" blah blach
Esfitness in hospital over a week very ill blood clots in lungs and sepsis....more to come
Boasts about being superhuman in his drug use yet looks like a gym rat on his first course
He has NEVER looked any better than the pic in this thread regardless of his boasts
He was here last time claiming Scott Markey used to work for him and Scott got him addicted to some painkiller
I actually contacted Scott who didnt knowe him initially until I sent him a photo and he remembered him as some wannabee who used to hang around the gym counters trying to fit in with the actual bodybuilders
I will give him credit for knowing the ins and outs of painkillers and even steroids but hes the perfect example of knowledge over substance.
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;D. ;D
If you have insurance.. Say you were cutting the grass . doing yard work etc.. You heard a pop.. Your insurance should cover it.. I would leave out the gym as they will properly find an excuse to decline you coverage..
;D. ;D
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I’m gonna need a YouTube video in a hospital gown for proper advice
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;D. ;D
If you have insurance.. Say you were cutting the grass . doing yard work etc.. You heard a pop.. Your insurance should cover it.. I would leave out the gym as they will properly find an excuse to decline you coverage..
;D. ;D
Sad but probably true.
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you are no stranger to talking shite
30cc and you looked like this
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=488239.0;attach=747116;image)
11 years older than that now, would love to see todays look on over a gram of anadrol a week
I am glad you posted this photo and attacked ESfitness. It proves you are just a hater. You guys can talk about his pro potential all you want but ESfitness looks great in this pic. I don't think anyone here would complain if they were in that shape with that size.
As far as dosages again you know better. You don't take a physique and then discount it based on dosages when he is the only guy telling the truth that is nonsense.
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I am glad you posted this photo and attacked ESfitness. It proves you are just a hater. You guys can talk about his pro potential all you want but ESfitness looks great in this pic. I don't think anyone here would complain if they were in that shape with that size.
As far as dosages again you know better. You don't take a physique and then discount it based on dosages when he is the only guy telling the truth that is nonsense.
you posted agian you lying fuck, go and get fucked off this site you stolen valour, probation officer never been convicted woman beating peice of shit
Hey, why did you leave the army early
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Stolen valour alert
Lying B snitch is back from under his woman beating rock
We knew you'd be back to get your kicking bitch
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I am glad you posted this photo and attacked ESfitness. It proves you are just a hater. You guys can talk about his pro potential all you want but ESfitness looks great in this pic. I don't think anyone here would complain if they were in that shape with that size.
As far as dosages again you know better. You don't take a physique and then discount it based on dosages when he is the only guy telling the truth that is nonsense.
thanks for admitting you are a liar
at last Brian
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thanks for admitting you are a liar
at last Brian
Currently I take one shot of test a week and 500mcg daily of bpc157/tb500 that is it. Believe whatever you want doesn't matter to me.
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Currently I take one shot of test a week and 500mcg daily of bpc157/tb500 that is it. Believe whatever you want doesn't matter to me.
I don't care you left here and are now back taking your daily beating like the bitch you are.
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I don't care you left here and are now back taking your daily beating like the bitch you are.
You are just embarrassing yourself showing your obvious infatuation with another man
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and in comes the man who puts up unsolicited semi nde shots up for strangers and wears his wifes thongs to show his arse accusing a heterosexual of being 'gay'.
hop aboard the gaycycle Brian.
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and in comes the man who puts up unsolicited semi nde shots up for strangers and wears his wifes thongs to show his arse accusing a heterosexual of being 'gay'.
hop aboard the gaycycle Brian.
You are not a hetrosexual stop LYING you have outed yourself many times you are gay as gay can be. You used to write me gay shit everyday until I called you out on it. You are not fooling anyone.
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How is blaze Brian?
How is Patrick Spaulding?
As for outing myself I am straight sorry. But if I was gay I'd have no problem admitting it. I'm not a self hating fag like you.
'Sometimes grappling is not enough'
definitely true in your MMA 'career'
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How is blaze Brian?
How is Patrick Spaulding?
As for outing myself I am straight sorry. But if I was gay I'd have no problem admitting it. I'm not a self hating fag like you.
'Sometimes grappling is not enough'
definitely true in your MMA 'career'
Who the fuck is Blaze? You are self hating fag you have exposed yourself a million times writing graphic gay vulgarity to me. Patrick is great he is still married to his wife raising his two kids and still straight as can be. He doesn't go online like yourself and write gay filth to other men
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Brian gave ESFitness a compliment !!
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Currently I take one shot of test a week and 500mcg daily of bpc157/tb500 that is it. Believe whatever you want doesn't matter to me.
Any success with that?
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Who the fuck is Blaze? You are self hating fag you have exposed yourself a million times writing graphic gay vulgarity to me. Patrick is great he is still married to his wife raising his two kids and still straight as can be. He doesn't go online like yourself and write gay filth to other men
he doiesnt like you Brian, Im sure he will tell me why you left the army once he reads my message
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Who the fuck is Blaze? You are self hating fag you have exposed yourself a million times writing graphic gay vulgarity to me. Patrick is great he is still married to his wife raising his two kids and still straight as can be. He doesn't go online like yourself and write gay filth to other men
the tranny who liked your post on Facebook
you then deleted his response
I've never had any tranny come on to me online or in real life
but I don't put up dick root shots whereas you do?
Jen told us you used to pay people to bang you .
I believe her. We all believe her.
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he doiesnt like you Brian, Im sure he will tell me why you left the army once he reads my message
Cool I dont even know who you are talking about. I dont know any Blaze?
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the tranny who liked your post on Facebook
you then deleted his response
I've never had any tranny come on to me online or in real life
but I don't put up dick root shots whereas you do?
Jen told us you used to pay people to bang you .
I believe her. We all believe her.
Oh you mean your and Jeffs fake fag profile that posted on a public group? Stop stalking my facebook Fag. Jen never said anything like that you are just making up nonsense. Please keep your Fag fantasies to yourself.
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Who the fuck is Blaze? You are self hating fag you have exposed yourself a million times writing graphic gay vulgarity to me. Patrick is great he is still married to his wife raising his two kids and still straight as can be. He doesn't go online like yourself and write gay filth to other men
Patrick is infamous for making exactly those comments.
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Patrick is infamous for making exactly those comments.
yes, exactly those comments, recently as well
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yes, exactly those comments, recently as well
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What the fuck is your point a friend of mine makes a compeltely normal comment on a photo on facebook months ago and you try to read some vast conspricacy into it. Do you not relize this makes you look like an obsessed lunatic stalker????
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What the fuck is your point a friend of mine makes a compeltely normal comment on a photo on facebook months ago and you try to read some vast conspricacy into it. Do you not relize this makes you look like an obsessed lunatic stalker????
Brian I don't need to create any fake profiles
you are the biggest pussy on the internet
its hilarious to kick you all over here knowing at no stage in my life will I be in any danger of you ever getting back at me. you wont even allow me to pm you or phone to sort a fight out. scared of. phone call. hahahaha
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What the fuck is your point a friend of mine makes a compeltely normal comment on a photo on facebook months ago and you try to read some vast conspricacy into it. Do you not relize this makes you look like an obsessed lunatic stalker????
he specifically wrote "your guys" as in your new man
Why would he put "lol" at the end of it if he meant to write "you guys"
and "you guys" grammatically doesnt make sense, he would have just written, "is that your new house"
He knows you are a fag Brian
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the tranny who liked your post on Facebook
you then deleted his response
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I posted in a public forum that is probably Jeffs profile
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I posted in a public forum that is probably Jeffs profile
he asked you to PM him and you deleted his post
Why was that Brian?
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I posted in a public forum that is probably Jeffs profile
he asked you to pm him.
rather than say fuc koff
you deleted it
because you pm'e him and took it off board.
blatant Brian.
em iS CLEARLY YOUR BEARD.
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BRIAN S RETURN HAS GONE WELL HASNT IT
a week off and normal business resumed
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And you guys still want to talk nasty gay shit create a thread and just write nasty gay shit to each other already
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And you guys still want to talk nasty gay shit create a thread and just write nasty gay shit to each other already
we want you to clear up your shit
Why you didnt complete your two years in the army?
Why you had a probabtion officer?
PS, stop making new silly stupid claims up before you have adressed the last ones
PPS you dont need to try and explain away the thousands of school fights, we know they didnt happen
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fuck off with the high dollar word salads.
I’m not “shaming” you (no homo). There’s a million men and women that work out (you don’t train, you’re not an athlete, you simply work out) at that time. Approximately “0” of them need smelling salts to push them through their session. Stop it.
You self admit to pushing extreme levels of gear, yet dudes on TRT look better than you any other photo you have ever produced.
Every 6 months it seems like you are updating the board with your current self induced health scare, yet here we are again.
If memory serves, by now you are creeping up on 50, maybe already there? You are absolutely never going to be in the shape you think you should be.
I like you and have defended you historically, but time to turn your brain on.
I love how even you end up arguing with your own little image of me you and your other dozen posts a day loser buddies seem to love so much.
I'm like William Wallace to you ass clowns.
If I want to hit smelling salts during a workout, I'll fucking hit them... The fact you think you can shame me for it, like you're a better person cuz you don't "need" them?
Fuck you lol I don't care. If I wanna use smelling salts on the way to the office at 8am, I'll fucken do it and you can wave your little fhag flag again in here when I mention it sometime next year
We both like Swiss watches. Is that supposed to make us buddies? you're just as much of a punk as these other social awkward weirdos.
its as if you're so used to th3 Gaslighting that go3s on here that you don't even know when you're doing it.
try to make it as if I'm some weirdo because I used Smelling Salts and that I, and anyone else who uses them during a workout, is not 'normal', but you ARE. lol
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I love how even you end up arguing with your own little image of me you and your other dozen posts a day loser buddies seem to love so much.
I'm like William Wallace to you ass clowns.
If I want to hit smelling salts during a workout, I'll fucking hit them... The fact you think you can shame me for it, like you're a better person cuz you don't "need" them?
Fuck you lol I don't care. If I wanna use smelling salts on the way to the office at 8am, I'll fucken do it and you can wave your little fhag flag again in here when I mention it sometime next year
hahahah fucking "office", oh brother , you working in another call centre?
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What the hell is going on here Hank? What is the nature of your relationship with this gentleman?
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What the hell is going on here Hank? What is the nature of your relationship with this gentleman?
You tell me I dont know them
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You tell me I dont know them
Interesting choice of pronouns.
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You tell me I dont know them
Brian put a dick root shot up on an over 40s fitness group
Bailey? responded
Brian then removed said post
he touted he got a like off that he delted
fill in the gaps
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Interesting choice of pronouns.
I tell you what let's try logic and reason and see if we can conclude anything.
I made a post in a publc facebook group for over 40 fitness and bodybuiding anyone on the internet in the group can see. I already know jeff has been stalking me previously in that group. This time when make a post like I have done a hundred times before something different happens. That picture gets put up in the comments with a message to contact them. Never before has anyone ever posted anything like that in the group. Then I see Jeff has screened shot it and is claiming on getbig I am in a group where flamers meetup and hit on each other or somesht? Now lets suppose for a minute this was a real profile and they saw my pic and actually were curios in meeting me. Would they not have simply messaged me privately with a pic? Why would they put that in the comments knowing it is against the group rules? Why has no one every made a comment like that on any other post anyone has ever made in the group???? I think it is rather obvious but you guys can draw your own conclusions
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I tell you what let's try logic and reason and see if we can conclude anything.
I made a post in a publc facebook group for over 40 fitness and bodybuiding anyone on the internet in the group can see. I already know jeff has been stalking me previously in that group. This time when make a post like I have done a hundred times before something different happens. That picture gets put up in the comments with a message to contact them. Never before has anyone ever posted anything like that in the group. Then I see Jeff has screened shot it and is claiming on getbig I am in a group where flamers meetup and hit on each other or somesht? Now lets suppose for a minute this was a real profile and they saw my pic and actually were curios in meeting me. Would they not have simply messaged me privately with a pic? Why would they put that in the comments knowing it is against the group rules? Why has no one every made a comment like that on any other post anyone has ever made in the group???? I think it is rather obvious but you guys can draw your own conclusions
the group got locked by the mods for people posting gay hook up photos, probably because of your shit
It was closed for a few weeks while thy cleaned it up
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the group got locked by the mods for people posting gay hook up photos, probably because of your shit
It was closed for a few weeks while thy cleaned it up
Like I said Jeffs fingerprints are all over it
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I tell you what let's try logic and reason and see if we can conclude anything.
I made a post in a publc facebook group for over 40 fitness and bodybuiding anyone on the internet in the group can see. I already know jeff has been stalking me previously in that group. This time when make a post like I have done a hundred times before something different happens. That picture gets put up in the comments with a message to contact them. Never before has anyone ever posted anything like that in the group. Then I see Jeff has screened shot it and is claiming on getbig I am in a group where flamers meetup and hit on each other or somesht? Now lets suppose for a minute this was a real profile and they saw my pic and actually were curios in meeting me. Would they not have simply messaged me privately with a pic? Why would they put that in the comments knowing it is against the group rules? Why has no one every made a comment like that on any other post anyone has ever made in the group???? I think it is rather obvious but you guys can draw your own conclusions
yes you were touting for cock on the internet
your gay pictures attracted flaming queens who you were in contact with.
job for Brian done
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Like I said Jeffs fingerprints are all over it
I wasnt the one posting dick root pictures
I have never posted a pic on any mens FB group, Im married and straight,,
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I wasnt the one posting dick root pictures
I have never posted a pic on any mens FB group, Im married and straight,,
thats where this lie falls to bit
he was putting up unsolicited dick root shots on a community board
nobody else did
nobody asked him to
he then attracts gay attention
just what he wanted
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Strange been in that group for years everyone post flexing pics everyday never seen anyone else ever make a post like that in the comments the entire time before or since
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Strange been in that group for years everyone post flexing pics everyday never seen anyone else ever make a post like that in the comments the entire time before or since
you are the only one with dick root photos
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you are the only one with dick root photos
And Brian left the post up with that comment.
Didn’t come down until GB found it.
Even though it had a comment he is now saying was definitely from someone here.
He was fine having it there when he thought it was a tranny.
Nice work Bhank..
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Strange been in that group for years everyone post flexing pics everyday never seen anyone else ever make a post like that in the comments the entire time before or since
You sure?
Your first ever photo was posted in June this year, I just searched the group ;)
You went years without posting a pic?
Yeah, right...
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I can confirm that
your first post was June Brian
'been there years'
no you haven't
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Like I said Jeffs fingerprints are all over it
'Bailey Sanchez' seems an unlikely name for a British person to make up..
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'Bailey Sanchez' seems an unlikely name for a British person to make up.
then again bunty Holmes went to school at Eton with the Sanchez's their father was big in trust funds I believe, had. county pile in Berks.
of course we didnt make it up
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then again bunty Holmes went to school at Eton with the Sanchez's their father was big in trust funds I believe, had. county pile in Berks.
of course we didnt make it up
I don't believe for one moment it's a 'fake' profile as he claims.
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the truth is you can't believe anything he writes at all
even today he went from LSAT on 10th
op on the 13th
to LSAT on 8th
fly to op on 10th
op in 13th
but only when reminded he had lied
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'Bailey Sanchez' seems an unlikely name for a British person to make up..
Bailey has hid his FB or closed it
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Bailey has hid his FB or closed it
:o :-\.
Better be murdering trannies to hide your love affairs Hankins!
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I don't believe for one moment it's a 'fake' profile as he claims.
nope, had loads of degenerate photos in it
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Look if you guys want to spend your time setting up fake fag profiles and writing fag poetry to each other have at it. I know you guys are into that shit. But I am still not into it leave me out of it
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Hey ESF, what was your best max deadlift in your powerlifting days?
You can try prolotherapy with your own blood(not PRP, that's a gimmick) and growth hormone.
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Not for nothing, but the ESFitness I knew from the boards back in the day wouldn't take kindly to the disrespect being shown to him on this thread.
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Not for nothing, but the ESFitness I knew from the boards back in the day wouldn't take kindly to the disrespect being shown to him on this thread.
He got soft since his Muscle Mayhem days. ;D
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Look if you guys want to spend your time setting up fake fag profiles and writing fag poetry to each other have at it. I know you guys are into that shit. But I am still not into it leave me out of it
You’re not fooling anyone.
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Look if you guys want to spend your time setting up fake fag profiles and writing fag poetry to each other have at it. I know you guys are into that shit. But I am still not into it leave me out of it
Brian fake fag accounts - it’s an account in your name so well done outing yourself
have at it- Brian types this when upset
He also believes that callling a group of straight men gay will stop us slaughtering him daily
Brian we will leave you out of it if you leave - again
‘These are my last words’
Hahaha liar
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Hey ESF, what was your best max deadlift in your powerlifting days?
You can try prolotherapy with your own blood(not PRP, that's a gimmick) and growth hormone.
Isn't prolotherapy a dextrose injection?
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Look if you guys want to spend your time setting up fake fag profiles and writing fag poetry to each other have at it. I know you guys are into that shit. But I am still not into it leave me out of it
Bianca drop the act , We all know you are a FAGGOTT
- Your Dick Root unsolicited pics / your Bailey Sanchez Boyfriend /
your Gay Tricycle & Daisy dukes / What your Ex said about you,
the evidence is Compelling.
You are a FAGGOTT & a BOTTOM.
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Hey ESF, what was your best max deadlift in your powerlifting days?
You can try prolotherapy with your own blood(not PRP, that's a gimmick) and growth hormone.
585 @ 230-something in 2010
* and that was on TRT-only for about 3.5-4yrs at that point, except for occasional insulin and probably glucophage after weigh-in's.
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update on the tricep.
took all of last week off. today's Monday, so it's back-day & exactly 14days since my last workout. gonna see how today feels... today's just straight 'back', tmrw is chest/shoulder pressing so we'll see how it feels.
started having pain in the right delt as well last Tue.
still have some 'discomfort/pain' in the long head of the tricep... feel's like a knot the size of 6 pencils bunched together inside the belly of the long head. actually felt it just a couple mins ago, which is what reminded me of this thread.lol
still didn't notice any bruising/discoloration and no 'divit/gap' in the long head or at the insertion.
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update on the tricep.
took all of last week off. today's Monday, so it's back-day & exactly 14days since my last workout. gonna see how today feels... today's just straight 'back', tmrw is chest/shoulder pressing so we'll see how it feels.
started having pain in the right delt as well last Tue.
still have some 'discomfort/pain' in the long head of the tricep... feel's like a knot the size of 6 pencils bunched together inside the belly of the long head. actually felt it just a couple mins ago, which is what reminded me of this thread.lol
still didn't notice any bruising/discoloration and no 'divit/gap' in the long head or at the insertion.
go see someone who does kinetic therapy/blading
Done wonders for my low back issues and muscle spasms , the delt may be something to do with the fascia from the tricep injury
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585 @ 230-something in 2010
* and that was on TRT-only for about 3.5-4yrs at that point, except for occasional insulin and probably glucophage after weigh-in's.
Asterisk of peace.
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ESF did you get it sorted?
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Use infrared light
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Isn't prolotherapy a dextrose injection?
That's one way of doing it but you can legit just use your own blood. I have in the past and it helped. As odd as it sounds. There's evidence that even just needling have have a prolotherapy effect.
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That's one way of doing it but you can legit just use your own blood. I have in the past and it helped. As odd as it sounds. There's evidence that even just needling have have a prolotherapy effect.
risk of blood clot gets a solid 'you try first' from me. this time last year I think today would've been day #4 in the ICU with a clot in my lung lol.
just got a couple bottles of TB500/BPC157 mix. not 100% sure how I'll be dosing it, considering I need some for my leg still, & was hoping to see if it would affect vascularity In forearms as well.
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update on the tricep.
took all of last week off. today's Monday, so it's back-day & exactly 14days since my last workout. gonna see how today feels... today's just straight 'back', tmrw is chest/shoulder pressing so we'll see how it feels.
started having pain in the right delt as well last Tue.
still have some 'discomfort/pain' in the long head of the tricep... feel's like a knot the size of 6 pencils bunched together inside the belly of the long head. actually felt it just a couple mins ago, which is what reminded me of this thread.lol
still didn't notice any bruising/discoloration and no 'divit/gap' in the long head or at the insertion.
Are you using the BPC157? I am and it seems to help 500mcg a day no changes in vascularity but have had no digestion issues which I usually have since starting it. I do feel it is helping to recover and reduce inflammation some honestly I plan to stay on it for a while I like a non as recovery healing pathway.
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Are you using the BPC157?
If you read his last fucking post you would know hes just got some, oh , hang on you did read it and are now pretending you didnt and thinking you are a smart arse for suggesting it to him
Fuck you faggit
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Are you using the BPC157? I am and it seems to help 500mcg a day no changes in vascularity but have had no digestion issues which I usually have since starting it. I do feel it is helping to recover and reduce inflammation some honestly I plan to stay on it for a while I like a non as recovery healing pathway.
I'll have to head back to Google Scholar to decide if I'll be using 50mcg or 500mcg... probably more around 50, since last time I did it I used 1mg over 5 ini's in a week. doing the opposite this time. actually, if I'm doing 50mcg of this solution, I'm really taking in just 25mcg of each BPC & TB500. so now I'll have to consider if that's going to be enough, or if I should do 100mcg total.
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I'll have to head back to Google Scholar to decide if I'll be using 50mcg or 500mcg... probably more around 50, since last time I did it I used 1mg over 5 ini's in a week. doing the opposite this time. actually, if I'm doing 50mcg of this solution, I'm really taking in just 25mcg of each BPC & TB500. so now I'll have to consider if that's going to be enough, or if I should do 100mcg total.
Where are you injecting it in the tricep or just close to it?
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I'll have to head back to Google Scholar to decide if I'll be using 50mcg or 500mcg... probably more around 50, since last time I did it I used 1mg over 5 ini's in a week. doing the opposite this time. actually, if I'm doing 50mcg of this solution, I'm really taking in just 25mcg of each BPC & TB500. so now I'll have to consider if that's going to be enough, or if I should do 100mcg total.
I think the dosages are just wild guesses. I know some have tried even 5 or 10mg a day. One guru said take a whole bottle of either BPC or TB at once, next month take a bottle of the other. Said he saw same benefits taking it this way instead of spacing it out. The multi milligram daily schemes were for healing the heart or kidneys, the effectiveness of which is just hypothetical.
Theoretically IGF-1 might be beneficial too for injuries, the "DES" is supposed to help locally. The dosages of the LR3 are hypothetical as well, who's to say it shouldn't be taken at 10mg a day like Increlex? But that would be 100 vials a day if 100mcg or 10 vials of the 1mg :D
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I think the dosages are just wild guesses. I know some have tried even 5 or 10mg a day. One guru said take a whole bottle of either BPC or TB at once, next month take a bottle of the other. Said he saw same benefits taking it this way instead of spacing it out. The multi milligram daily schemes were for healing the heart or kidneys, the effectiveness of which is just hypothetical.
Theoretically IGF-1 might be beneficial too for injuries, the "DES" is supposed to help locally. The dosages of the LR3 are hypothetical as well, who's to say it shouldn't be taken at 10mg a day like Increlex? But that would be 100 vials a day if 100mcg or 10 vials of the 1mg :D
been puking all day the past couple days. thought it was pt-141 at first, or I'd accidentally taken some Semaglutide/Ozempic like I'd done before (1.5mg on accident was hell for a week), but no chance.. so I dunno what happened & never got around... no wait!! just remembered I did take one inj the first day after I got back from Red Light Therapy for 15min, cold plunge/sauna alternating for 30min, and an hour in the float tank...
500mcg TB-500 & 500mcg BPC157 in 10iu...
5iu went into the upper tricep/delt attachment.. near the armpit where I felt the 'pop'
the last 5iu went into my leg where the surgery incision keeps reopening due to swelling in my legs due to 'veinous insufficiency' or 'leaky valves', I have surgery for that scheduled next week some time I think. that one they'll go in through a vein in my thigh/behind my knee with a camera and soldering iron and permanently close the bad veins. if that doesn't help the lower leg enough, then they'll go into the lower leg and do the same thing. unsure if they're doing both legs or just the right. guess I'll find out then. only takes an hour they said.
anyways... that's another topic.
so, I think I'm gonna have to cut the concentration in half before I inject again, because it's annoying to try to inject 1iu into an area and shoot 3iu by accident.. so that 500mcg of each is now gonna be spread over 20iu. much easier to spread the peptide around to more than 1 or 2 muscle groups/joint.
I may do a 2on 1 off or 5 on 2 off just to stretch it out a little.
I thought about the igf-1, I'll have to re-up on gh soon so I may get some, but after hearing from some of Kuwait and Iran guys, I'd kinda want to run 250-300mcg/day, which would get pricey and not sure if I could rationalize that at 42.
I did love DES when I was in the peptide business... can't say what it did for growth, but it gave great pumps. I'd put 10-20iu in each muscle group I trained that day. which if I was training chest/delts could mean 70-80iu's in one workout because each head of the muscle got 5-15iu each. was always more conservative with IGF-1Lr3
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Why are you taking all these drugs? Is bodybuilding your profession?
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Why are you taking all these drugs? Is bodybuilding your profession?
Dont go down the rabbit hole....
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Why are you taking all these drugs? Is bodybuilding your profession?
He's mentally ill.
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6 GRAMS .. ... ..... .... !! :D
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been puking all day the past couple days. thought it was pt-141 at first, or I'd accidentally taken some Semaglutide/Ozempic like I'd done before (1.5mg on accident was hell for a week), but no chance.. so I dunno what happened & never got around... no wait!! just remembered I did take one inj the first day after I got back from Red Light Therapy for 15min, cold plunge/sauna alternating for 30min, and an hour in the float tank...
500mcg TB-500 & 500mcg BPC157 in 10iu...
5iu went into the upper tricep/delt attachment.. near the armpit where I felt the 'pop'
the last 5iu went into my leg where the surgery incision keeps reopening due to swelling in my legs due to 'veinous insufficiency' or 'leaky valves', I have surgery for that scheduled next week some time I think. that one they'll go in through a vein in my thigh/behind my knee with a camera and soldering iron and permanently close the bad veins. if that doesn't help the lower leg enough, then they'll go into the lower leg and do the same thing. unsure if they're doing both legs or just the right. guess I'll find out then. only takes an hour they said.
anyways... that's another topic.
so, I think I'm gonna have to cut the concentration in half before I inject again, because it's annoying to try to inject 1iu into an area and shoot 3iu by accident.. so that 500mcg of each is now gonna be spread over 20iu. much easier to spread the peptide around to more than 1 or 2 muscle groups/joint.
I may do a 2on 1 off or 5 on 2 off just to stretch it out a little.
I thought about the igf-1, I'll have to re-up on gh soon so I may get some, but after hearing from some of Kuwait and Iran guys, I'd kinda want to run 250-300mcg/day, which would get pricey and not sure if I could rationalize that at 42.
I did love DES when I was in the peptide business... can't say what it did for growth, but it gave great pumps. I'd put 10-20iu in each muscle group I trained that day. which if I was training chest/delts could mean 70-80iu's in one workout because each head of the muscle got 5-15iu each. was always more conservative with IGF-1Lr3
Ostarine is good for injury recovery and MK677 as well.
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I would stick to the bpc 157 at the 500mcg to 1000mcg a day range split in two ideally just make a bottle last 4 days if it’s a 10iu bottle but I do think it helps recovery I would keep that vs shifting to growth or IGF post surgical
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I would stick to the bpc 157 at the 500mcg to 1000mcg a day range split in two ideally just make a bottle last 4 days if it’s a 10iu bottle but I do think it helps recovery I would keep that vs shifting to growth or IGF post surgical
OK Pablo Escobar!
::)
You rely on gear too much and train like a KUNT.........3-6 sets for a huge bodypart just don`t cut it chump.
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been puking all day the past couple days. thought it was pt-141 at first, or I'd accidentally taken some Semaglutide/Ozempic like I'd done before (1.5mg on accident was hell for a week), but no chance.. so I dunno what happened & never got around... no wait!! just remembered I did take one inj the first day after I got back from Red Light Therapy for 15min, cold plunge/sauna alternating for 30min, and an hour in the float tank...
500mcg TB-500 & 500mcg BPC157 in 10iu...
5iu went into the upper tricep/delt attachment.. near the armpit where I felt the 'pop'
the last 5iu went into my leg where the surgery incision keeps reopening due to swelling in my legs due to 'veinous insufficiency' or 'leaky valves', I have surgery for that scheduled next week some time I think. that one they'll go in through a vein in my thigh/behind my knee with a camera and soldering iron and permanently close the bad veins. if that doesn't help the lower leg enough, then they'll go into the lower leg and do the same thing. unsure if they're doing both legs or just the right. guess I'll find out then. only takes an hour they said.
anyways... that's another topic.
so, I think I'm gonna have to cut the concentration in half before I inject again, because it's annoying to try to inject 1iu into an area and shoot 3iu by accident.. so that 500mcg of each is now gonna be spread over 20iu. much easier to spread the peptide around to more than 1 or 2 muscle groups/joint.
I may do a 2on 1 off or 5 on 2 off just to stretch it out a little.
I thought about the igf-1, I'll have to re-up on gh soon so I may get some, but after hearing from some of Kuwait and Iran guys, I'd kinda want to run 250-300mcg/day, which would get pricey and not sure if I could rationalize that at 42.
I did love DES when I was in the peptide business... can't say what it did for growth, but it gave great pumps. I'd put 10-20iu in each muscle group I trained that day. which if I was training chest/delts could mean 70-80iu's in one workout because each head of the muscle got 5-15iu each. was always more conservative with IGF-1Lr3
You have a lot going on but you still train and I think it's impressive. Like I said, I don't know what the suggested dosages are based on. If you do read up on iit maybe you can tell me :D
Different protocols out there, for example this one by a poster on professionalmuscle
Oct 7, 2024
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"Here is the protocol that I used after having surgery on my foot. I healed over a month sooner after having the same surgery on the other foot two years prior. My ortho MD was impressed how quickly I recovered. This protocol along with low dose GH......
TB 500 and BPC-157 Cycle for Total Body Repair
This protocol utilizes a total of 55mg TB-500 (11 x 5mg vials) and 20mg BPC 157 (4 x 5mg vials) with a 3 week loading phase followed by a 5 week maintenance phase. Note that the BPC-157 dosage amounts are in micrograms (mcg).
Loading Phase
Week 1 - Week 3:
Monday: TB-500 5mg / BPC-157 500mcg
Tuesday & Wednesday: BPC-157 500mcg
Thursday: TB-500 5mg / BPC-157 500mcg
Friday, Saturday & Sunday: BPC-157 500mcg
Maintenance Phase
Week 4 - Week 8:
Monday: TB-500 2.5mg / BPC-157 250mcg
Tuesday & Wednesday: BPC-157 250mcg
Thursday: TB-500 2.5mg / BPC-157 250mcg
Friday, Saturday & Sunday: BPC-157 250mcg
Loading Phase: In weeks 1 through 3, the total weekly dose of 10mg TB-500 ensures a rapid initial buildup of Thymosin Beta 4 for immediate healing and recovery as well a weekly total dose of 3.5mg (3,500mcg) BPC-157 to further stimulate recovery and provide added support for joint and connective tissue (tendon and ligament) healing.
Maintenance Phase: Week 4 begins the maintenance portion of the Total Body Repair cycle with a total weekly dose of 5mg TB-500 and a weekly total dose of 1.75mg (1,750mcg) BPC-157. This continues through week 8 and the end of the cycle."
You diluting the stuff sounds logical of course. I was speculating about diluting it was more so you could do numerous shots, also achieving a prolotherapy effect at the same time, but this is just me speculating 8) Like I said the powerlifters would do dozens of BA water shots into the injured area to "force" a stronger healing effect, but you might put a bunch of peptides in the water. I haven't looked at peptides recently but I think there are many now that might help. Even very low dose EPO might be beneficial due to the antionflammatory and antioxidant effect (wild speculation). Insulin too for the same reason, it's antiinflammatory and antioxidant, as well as anabolic, though don't know if it has any pronounced local effects when shooting into an injury, maybe just systemic. OTOH hand the tissue receiving the shot might get higher levels for a brief time. One guru said any oil shots can be very mildly anabolic, there is some type of anabolism triggered even if just oil, some oils even activating the androgen receptor (MCT). He recommended microshots into muscles trained after the workout, could be 10iu of oil shot with a insulin syringe.
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You have a lot going on but you still train and I think it's impressive. Like I said, I don't know what the suggested dosages are based on. If you do read up on iit maybe you can tell me :D
Different protocols out there, for example this one by a poster on professionalmuscle
I happen to like BPC-157. I have a bad flareup now of the tennis-elbow tendon.
And right shoulder is still pretty fucked.
I'm doing (daily) 250mcg in the elbow, and 250mcg in the delt now. (After holding off and waiting for months for it to heal).
Ive had good luck in the past using this peptide... Odd, but after a week the elbow is already better...
Delt remains to be seen, I'm pretty sure it may be beyond "healing" (without surgery and downtime).
So much grinding, its brutal (and true).
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I happen to like BPC-157. I have a bad flareup now of the tennis-elbow tendon.
And right shoulder is still pretty fucked.
I'm doing (daily) 250mcg in the elbow, and 250mcg in the delt now. (After holding off and waiting for months for it to heal).
Ive had good luck in the past using this peptide... Odd, but after a week the elbow is already better...
Delt remains to be seen, I'm pretty sure it may be beyond "healing" (without surgery and downtime).
So much grinding, its brutal (and true).
I only tried a couple of bottles and didn't really see anything. My friend thinks he got bad tb500 now because previously he felt "healed" after 3 days lol. But that's stupid thinking, even if it "works" amazingly it will not heal just any injury just like that. Obviously it will not grow a ton of cartilage overnight and so on. Maybe the BPC relief is mostly just an antiinflammatory effect, maybe there is no real healing. But if it helps at all it's worth it and I haven't seen any concern about potential health risks.
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I only tried a couple of bottles and didn't really see anything. My friend thinks he got bad tb500 now because previously he felt "healed" after 3 days lol. But that's stupid thinking, even if it "works" amazingly it will not heal just any injury just like that. Obviously it will not grow a ton of cartilige overnight and so on. Maybe the BPC relief is mostly just an antiinflammatory effect, maybe there is no real healing. But if it helps at all it's worth it and I haven't seen any concern about potential health risks.
I have some arthritis going on in my right shoulder. TB500 does wonders, even in minimal dosages. Can't say the same for BPC157.
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6 GRAMS .. ... ..... .... !! :D
Child's Play - If he was serious it'd be a minimum of 12Grams every other day
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I see BPC157 is now available in tablet form and sold in supplement stores.
Anyone tried it?
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I see BPC157 is now available in tablet form and sold in supplement stores.
Anyone tried it?
I think it's a waste.
If I was to do it again, I'd do the injectable.
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I see BPC157 is now available in tablet form and sold in supplement stores.
Anyone tried it?
I doubt the protein chain will be in good condition once it gets flooded with stomach acids. Peptides must be injected AND mixed gently.
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Child's Play - If he was serious it'd be a minimum of 12Grams every other day
He`s half stepping.........needs to get serious or quit!! ;D
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He`s half stepping.........needs to get serious or quit!! ;D
It's been his problem all along, Never taking enough gear.
If he'd just man up & take what's required it'd solve all of his
injuries - Some folk just won't be told.
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I only tried a couple of bottles and didn't really see anything. My friend thinks he got bad tb500 now because previously he felt "healed" after 3 days lol. But that's stupid thinking, even if it "works" amazingly it will not heal just any injury just like that. Obviously it will not grow a ton of cartilage overnight and so on. Maybe the BPC relief is mostly just an antiinflammatory effect, maybe there is no real healing. But if it helps at all it's worth it and I haven't seen any concern about potential health risks.
TBH the area I injected into on my leg seemed very noticeably better a couple days after. we'd forgotten I even injected in the leg after being sick those few days.
also, I read about BPC increasing angiogenesis.. something that would help be a great deal and prior to the tricep thing was why I was gonna pick up a few.
I also used a bottle while I was in the hospital for my leg. split the bottle into 4 shots over 4 days spaced along th3 incision and it did seem to help things a few days later... or it's possible things would have been better anyway. who knows.
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I see BPC157 is now available in tablet form and sold in supplement stores.
Anyone tried it?
Tablet form only helps with stomach issues. You need injectable for healing needs...
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You have a lot going on but you still train and I think it's impressive. Like I said, I don't know what the suggested dosages are based on. If you do read up on iit maybe you can tell me :D
Different protocols out there, for example this one by a poster on professionalmuscle
You diluting the stuff sounds logical of course. I was speculating about diluting it was more so you could do numerous shots, also achieving a prolotherapy effect at the same time, but this is just me speculating 8) Like I said the powerlifters would do dozens of BA water shots into the injured area to "force" a stronger healing effect, but you might put a bunch of peptides in the water. I haven't looked at peptides recently but I think there are many now that might help. Even very low dose EPO might be beneficial due to the antionflammatory and antioxidant effect (wild speculation). Insulin too for the same reason, it's antiinflammatory and antioxidant, as well as anabolic, though don't know if it has any pronounced local effects when shooting into an injury, maybe just systemic. OTOH hand the tissue receiving the shot might get higher levels for a brief time. One guru said any oil shots can be very mildly anabolic, there is some type of anabolism triggered even if just oil, some oils even activating the androgen receptor (MCT). He recommended microshots into muscles trained after the workout, could be 10iu of oil shot with a insulin syringe.
hell for 2months I trained everyday with my hand in a cast broken 4th and 5th metacarpals and 5th proximal/pinky... then surgery and another cast for another month. couldn't get a wrap around the casts, much less a VersaGrip lol
my left hand index and middle fingers got pretty strong lol.