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Title: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on November 19, 2024, 05:54:42 PM
CliffsNotes:  Conservatives hate women, hate brown people, and are literally stupid.  The arrogance of these people knows no bounds.  Could not imagine being married to this woman.

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
This is what the most powerful Democrats think of you if you voted for Trump. Never forget this. I want you to think about what would happen if they had total power. Think 60 Senate seats, a house majority, the White House and the Supreme Court. Pure evil.

https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1858521300706160876
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 20, 2024, 01:07:52 AM
CliffsNotes:  Conservatives hate women, hate brown people, and are literally stupid.  The arrogance of these people knows no bounds.  Could not imagine being married to this woman.

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
This is what the most powerful Democrats think of you if you voted for Trump. Never forget this. I want you to think about what would happen if they had total power. Think 60 Senate seats, a house majority, the White House and the Supreme Court. Pure evil.

https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1858521300706160876
Our society would go to shit overnight.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2024, 04:14:50 PM
Defiant L’s

@DefiantLs
😏

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1859730139178992062
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on November 21, 2024, 04:24:32 PM
CliffsNotes:  Conservatives hate women, hate brown people, and are literally stupid.  The arrogance of these people knows no bounds.  Could not imagine being married to this woman.

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
This is what the most powerful Democrats think of you if you voted for Trump. Never forget this. I want you to think about what would happen if they had total power. Think 60 Senate seats, a house majority, the White House and the Supreme Court. Pure evil.

https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1858521300706160876


They're totally fucked up & sick evil people.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2024, 03:49:06 PM
Resist the Mainstream
@ResisttheMS
🔴 Man calls Trump supporters “terrible human beings.”

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1860443961409798408
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: jude2 on November 25, 2024, 06:32:54 PM
Resist the Mainstream
@ResisttheMS
🔴 Man calls Trump supporters “terrible human beings.”

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1860443961409798408
LOL women lose their rights to be happy.  These poor people bought all the BS on MSNBC and CNN.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2024, 08:09:44 PM
LOL women lose their rights to be happy.  These poor people bought all the BS on MSNBC and CNN.

Because (according to their twisted world view) a woman's happiness is dependent on her ability to kill her unborn child without restriction through 9 months of pregnancy. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 26, 2024, 12:16:22 AM
Because (according to their twisted world view) a woman's happiness is dependent on her ability to kill her unborn child without restriction through 9 months of pregnancy.
They are mentally ill.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: IroNat on November 26, 2024, 07:13:08 AM
Smartest thing she said:

"Leave New York"


(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0c574bbf2ca6fc691b80978caeff4971/tumblr_o9f9wdLEVW1tq4of6o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: The Scott on November 26, 2024, 09:14:00 AM
CliffsNotes:  Conservatives hate women, hate brown people, and are literally stupid.  The arrogance of these people knows no bounds.  Could not imagine being married to this woman.

Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
This is what the most powerful Democrats think of you if you voted for Trump. Never forget this. I want you to think about what would happen if they had total power. Think 60 Senate seats, a house majority, the White House and the Supreme Court. Pure evil.

https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1858521300706160876

There is a reason that live, evil and vile are all found within the same 4 letters.  That creature deserves a permanent burkha and mooslime master.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Gym Rat on November 26, 2024, 10:09:55 AM
Yet, we have a handful of (so called) "men" on this site, that vote for and support this nonsense.

Fucking retards...  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2024, 12:38:06 AM
Yet, we have a handful of (so called) "men" on this site, that vote for and support this nonsense.

Fucking retards...  ::)
Most have recently disappeared.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on November 28, 2024, 11:29:09 AM
Sharon Stone chastises 'ignorant, arrogant' Americans in rant against fascism
Actress Sharon Stone echoed Alec Baldwin and blasted American politics at the Torino Film Festival in Italy
By Tracy Wright Fox News
Published November 26, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/sharon-stone-chastises-ignorant-arrogant-americans-rant-against-fascism
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2024, 12:41:59 AM
Sharon Stone chastises 'ignorant, arrogant' Americans in rant against fascism
Actress Sharon Stone echoed Alec Baldwin and blasted American politics at the Torino Film Festival in Italy
By Tracy Wright Fox News
Published November 26, 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/sharon-stone-chastises-ignorant-arrogant-americans-rant-against-fascism
She was so much easier to like after her stroke.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on December 03, 2024, 08:37:07 PM
Eric Abbenante
@EricAbbenante
Mark Cuban dismisses Trump's popularity among pro athletes by stating they're politically ignorant:
Gavin Newsom: "Man, you are next level all in for Kamala. And that has all the benefits and all the damn risks attached to it. What are you doing? What are you thinking?
Mark Cuban: "I never really got into politics hard until Trump ran and, you know, initially I actually supported him because I thought he had no chance to win.
Doug Hendrickson: "Mark, let me let me ask you a question. The other day I called literally 65 of my clients across the NFL and I said, hey, I'm just curious. I don't care who you vote for. I'm just curious, who do you think the majority of the locker room is voting for?
And universally, every one of them said Trump. And you're an NBA guy. Why do you think that is as far as the athletes in terms of their mindset?"
Mark Cuban: "They think he's going to be better for money. Kamala will probably increase their income tax 2%.
And to some people that's big deal right. The other people don't put the country first.
But look, athletes have never been known for for doing the work in terms of most people, 99% of people just now, like we're saying before, just get their information from memes and you know damn well, you know, players are on Instagram all day.
Marshawn Lynch: "That's good to hear, though, from somebody who, you know, I mean, actually, I mean, I've done the work."

Liberals are so 'progressive' that they think everyone who disagrees with them is stupid and ignorant.

https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1863726430166593548
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2025, 07:13:46 PM

Resist the Mainstream
@ResisttheMS
🚨 Angry liberal calls Trump voters STUPID.

"The only voter base that is still voting Republican is non-college educated whites.”

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1858234653229842905
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Gym Rat on January 09, 2025, 08:14:11 AM
Resist the Mainstream
@ResisttheMS
🚨 Angry liberal calls Trump voters STUPID.

"The only voter base that is still voting Republican is non-college educated whites.”

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1858234653229842905

Yet those "very smart libturds" think men can get preganant...  (And vote for the destruction of the US).   ::) ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: deadz on January 09, 2025, 10:43:20 AM
Libs....dumbest people on the planet. Thoroughly useless!
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on January 09, 2025, 11:02:35 AM
Yet those "very smart libturds" think men can get preganant...  (And vote for the destruction of the US).   ::) ::)


Men can be Pregnant = Ha Ha Ha
WTF = how Fucked up do they have to be to say such
utter Fucking Nonsense.  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2025, 02:05:48 PM
Yet those "very smart libturds" think men can get preganant...  (And vote for the destruction of the US).   ::) ::)

preganant? What the heck is that?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on January 09, 2025, 03:19:38 PM
preganant? What the heck is that?


Men getting Pregnant 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I'd go careful if I was you , your not above making spelling/ grammatical erros
Mr Pompous one.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Gym Rat on January 10, 2025, 01:27:17 AM
preganant? What the heck is that?

Its like when you swallow a gallon of man-juice, and you shit out a libturd from all the semen you gargle with.
Disgusting phaggot...  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: AbrahamG on January 10, 2025, 06:50:19 PM

Men getting Pregnant 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I'd go careful if I was you , your not above making spelling/ grammatical erros
Mr Pompous one.

If you did this on purpose, well done.  :D
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2025, 04:26:02 AM
If you did this on purpose, well done.  :D

Yep  ;D

I expected Prime to notice it.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Gym Rat on January 11, 2025, 05:47:33 AM
Yep  ;D

I expected Prime to notice it.

He's too busy at the glory-hole guzzling hobo cum right about now.
Disgusting excuse for a human. 

The Pimlico Pickle-Polisher.  The West-Linn Lolli-Licker...
The "Kiddie Turd" fishing champion... The very confused libturd who swallows cokk, but married a woman.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2025, 01:43:27 PM

Men getting Pregnant 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

I'd go careful if I was you , your not above making spelling/ grammatical erros
Mr Pompous one.

Thanks for the warning. However, that I sometimes make similar errors doesn't preclude my commenting on folk's spelling and grammar. At least they know I carefully read their post.  :)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on January 12, 2025, 02:11:33 PM
affeman's life goal is to get Gunter Schlierkamp's used thong and wearing like old people wear oxygen tubes.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2025, 02:20:28 PM
Thanks for the warning. However, that I sometimes make similar errors doesn't preclude my commenting on folk's spelling and grammar. At least they know I carefully read their post.  :)


The fact you make spelling & grammar errors means you don't carefully read your own
Posts  ::)   😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2025, 01:40:55 PM

The fact you make spelling & grammar errors means you don't carefully read your own
Posts  ::)   😂🤣😂

Did I say that I carefully read my posts? No, I did not. When someone calls me on my errors, I usually thank them for pointing out the mistake so I can correct it. There is a reason even professional writers use editors and proofreaders.

"Writers need proofreaders to meticulously review their work and identify and correct errors in grammar, spelling, punctuation, and formatting, ensuring the final piece is professional, accurate, and easily understood by the reader, as even the most skilled writers can make mistakes that a fresh set of eyes can catch; essentially, a proofreader helps polish the writing to present a clean and error-free final product."
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on January 27, 2025, 09:56:51 AM
Defiant L’s

@DefiantLs
I am willing to bet money she's never tried to actually talk with a "MAGA" person.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1883841394164519230
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: jude2 on January 27, 2025, 06:40:44 PM
Defiant L’s

@DefiantLs
I am willing to bet money she's never tried to actually talk with a "MAGA" person.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1883841394164519230
Her psycho eyes tells it all
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2025, 08:49:23 PM
Rep. Jasmine Crockett says Trump voters 'don't want to read' about facts, racists support 'the other racist'
The progressive Democrat took swipes at Republicans during her 'Breakfast Club' appearance
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn Fox News
Published February 22, 2025
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-jasmine-crockett-says-trump-voters-dont-want-read-about-facts-racists-support-other-racists?intcmp=fb_fnc&fbclid=IwY2xjawIoXiVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXM8w4GM1_Z1ib7dLn8NyG_UAGaC3oXdxXl3y10XCCeu2zyfsFBf4xrSqQ_aem_kVwnOUA3G7BKP1kWrglTHQ
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2025, 08:52:11 PM
Texas Democrat Jasmine Crockett Blames ‘Dim-Witted’ Americans for Trump’s Rising Popularity
Leave a Comment / By Martin Tribe / February 20, 2025
https://wokespy.com/texas-democrat-jasmine-crockett-blames-dim-witted-americans-for-trumps-rising-popularity/
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on March 03, 2025, 01:38:06 PM
Defiant L’s

@DefiantLs
This lovely woman thinks she is intellectually superior than MAGA supporters, including her friends.

https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1896227367728877868
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: deadz on March 03, 2025, 02:24:26 PM
Texas Democrat Jasmine Crockett Blames ‘Dim-Witted’ Americans for Trump’s Rising Popularity
Leave a Comment / By Martin Tribe / February 20, 2025
https://wokespy.com/texas-democrat-jasmine-crockett-blames-dim-witted-americans-for-trumps-rising-popularity/
Libcunts....dumbest people on the planet!
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 04, 2025, 01:07:37 AM
Texas Democrat Jasmine Crockett Blames ‘Dim-Witted’ Americans for Trump’s Rising Popularity
Leave a Comment / By Martin Tribe / February 20, 2025
https://wokespy.com/texas-democrat-jasmine-crockett-blames-dim-witted-americans-for-trumps-rising-popularity/
It is the dim witted Americans in her district that elected her to office.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2025, 10:09:00 AM
Jasmine Crockett accused of 'abusing her power' at airport boarding gate
'Nothing to see here, just the next leader of the Democrats, abusing her power!' writes House GOP Conference Chair Rep Lisa McClain
By Deirdre Heavey Fox News
Published May 6, 2025
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jasmine-crockett-accused-abusing-her-power-airport-boarding-gate
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on June 24, 2025, 10:11:24 AM
It's unbelievable to me that folks like AOC and Crockett think any rational adult wants them involved in any important decision when it comes to national security.

I know the dipshits who voted for them likely never considered that possibility when they voted.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2025, 10:20:42 AM
It's unbelievable to me that folks like AOC and Crockett think any rational adult wants them involved in any important decision when it comes to national security.

I know the dipshits who voted for them likely never considered that possibility when they voted.

I agree.  Their level of ignorance and arrogance is astounding. 

Ben Shapiro thinks AOC is a legit contender for the Democrat nomination in 2028.   
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on June 24, 2025, 12:18:48 PM
I agree.  Their level of ignorance and arrogance is astounding. 

Ben Shapiro thinks AOC is a legit contender for the Democrat nomination in 2028.   

They'd be punting the election then.

Imagine a Vance / AOC debate?

It would be more one sided than anything we could imagine.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2025, 01:18:13 PM
They'd be punting the election then.

Imagine a Vance / AOC debate?

It would be more one sided than anything we could imagine.

Vance would destroy her. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on June 24, 2025, 01:53:07 PM
They'd be punting the election then.

Imagine a Vance / AOC debate?

It would be more one sided than anything we could imagine.


FFS Khvntmala was awful & seriously there are Dummycraps who would
Support AOC 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 that's just beyond insane.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 25, 2025, 12:32:37 AM

FFS Khvntmala was awful & seriously there are Dummycraps who would
Support AOC 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 that's just beyond insane.
Half of Getbig.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on July 14, 2025, 01:54:28 PM
Claiming people voted for Trump because they were uneducated or uninformed.  What an arrogant clown. 

Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
HOT TAKE FROM JAZZY CROCKETT DOES NOT GO OVER WELL.

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1944838564975386799
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on August 07, 2025, 05:15:22 PM
Trump critic Rep. Jasmine Crockett is a no-show boss from hell who terrorizes staffers, aides say: ‘All diva, no wow’
By Steven Nelson
Published Aug. 7, 2025
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/rep-jasmine-crockett-is-a-no-show-boss-from-hell-who-terrorizes-staffers-aides-say-all-diva-no-wow/
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2025, 07:33:49 AM
Trump critic Rep. Jasmine Crockett is a no-show boss from hell who terrorizes staffers, aides say: ‘All diva, no wow’
By Steven Nelson
Published Aug. 7, 2025
https://nypost.com/2025/08/07/us-news/rep-jasmine-crockett-is-a-no-show-boss-from-hell-who-terrorizes-staffers-aides-say-all-diva-no-wow/
Of course she's a kunt.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: jude2 on August 08, 2025, 07:42:12 PM
Of course she's a kunt.
Imagine having that bitch as a boss.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 09, 2025, 08:49:56 AM
Imagine having that bitch as a boss.
Or any black woman.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2025, 02:33:51 PM
And this man could be Speaker of the House?   :-\

BrooklynDad_Defiant!☮️
@mmpadellan
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, in his first interview after a heater exchange with Rep. Lawler: "Don't come for me unless I send for you. I did not send for this malignant clown!"

Leader Jeffries is not having it! 🔥

https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/1976103027317833930
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 03:01:20 PM
is it not true that the uneducated voted for trump and the more highly educated tend to be liberal?

Pretty sure that is a fact. What that says about intelligence is another matter.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2025, 03:15:52 PM
is it not true that the uneducated voted for trump and the more highly educated tend to be liberal?

Pretty sure that is a fact. What that says about intelligence is another matter.

I don't know.  What difference does that make? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 10, 2025, 03:27:39 AM
I don't know.  What difference does that make?

it is a fact.

do you think education has any correlation with intelligence? particularly at higher levels?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 10, 2025, 08:11:26 AM
it is a fact.

do you think education has any correlation with intelligence? particularly at higher levels?
Not as much as it used to have. The modern day college education is very watered down with all the degree fields.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 10, 2025, 08:22:30 AM
Not as much as it used to have. The modern day college education is very watered down with all the degree fields.

Like what for example?

In the sciences, nothing appears watered down

The arts are by their nature more subjective, mecurial and on the fringes, so if you are talking things like gender studies etc there are some but I can't imagine its a large percentage of college goers.

I think people who have never actually gotten a degree have preconceived notions about what that looks like while really having no clue.

For my undergrad I had to do multiple stats course, chemistry of all sorts, psychology, multiple calculus and math courses, multiple neuroscience courses and a spattering of shit I could pick for electives- generally as easy as possible- folklore or kinesiology

It's not an easy go.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 10, 2025, 08:30:37 AM
Like what for example?

In the sciences, nothing appears watered down

The arts are by their nature more subjective, mecurial and on the fringes, so if you are talking things like gender studies etc there are some but I can't imagine its a large percentage of college goers.

I think people who have never actually gotten a degree have preconceived notions about what that looks like while really having no clue.

For my undergrad I had to do multiple stats course, chemistry of all sorts, psychology, multiple calculus and math courses, multiple neuroscience courses and a spattering of shit I could pick for electives- generally as easy as possible- folklore or kinesiology

It's not an easy go.
Bullshit! It is way easier today. In 1925 only 5-10% of high school grads went to college. Today it is 61-62%. Over 60% of college grads today are women which is all you need to know.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 10, 2025, 10:34:40 AM
Bullshit! It is way easier today. In 1925 only 5-10% of high school grads went to college. Today it is 61-62%. Over 60% of college grads today are women which is all you need to know.


You are factually incorrect

It is harder today that it was in the 1920s onward. there were way fewer people applying for college in the 20s, 30s 50s etc, there are is a way larger pool now and thus lower acceptance rates then the time you are citing.

Elite schools have an acceptance rate of under 10%
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/04/is-college-really-harder-to-get-into-than-it-used-to-be/360114/

So the fact that only 5-10 percent of high school grads went to college vs the 60% today says nothing about the difficulty of getting in whatsoever, the admission rates are way lower and the pool of applicants way bigger. Degrees are required for decent pay nowadays, no body needed one back in the 20s, 30s etc.

Grades are required to be higher now than in the 20s and almost everyone that applied back then got in as the pool was so small.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2017/08/25/universities-then-and-now/

Credential inflation is real.

So unfortunately you are wrong. I will lump you in with the group that did not go to college nor has a degree.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 10, 2025, 05:19:45 PM
is it not true that the uneducated voted for trump and the more highly educated tend to be liberal?

Pretty sure that is a fact. What that says about intelligence is another matter.
It proves that going to college manipulates peoples outlook and thought process. Education isn't always intelligence. Do you think all "highly educated" whatever that means, people are liberal?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2025, 06:19:35 PM
it is a fact.

do you think education has any correlation with intelligence? particularly at higher levels?

If it's a fact, it's an irrelevant fact.  You are trying to say that people without higher education are smarter than high school graduates.  And that if those high school graduates support Trump it's because they're not smart.  At least that's the clear implication, which is consistent with the arrogant liberal talking points of the past decade.   

How are you defining intelligence?  IQ?  EI?  Common sense?  Life experience?  The ability to manage finances?  Pretty loaded question. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 11, 2025, 09:16:05 AM

You are factually incorrect

It is harder today that it was in the 1920s onward. there were way fewer people applying for college in the 20s, 30s 50s etc, there are is a way larger pool now and thus lower acceptance rates then the time you are citing.

Elite schools have an acceptance rate of under 10%
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/04/is-college-really-harder-to-get-into-than-it-used-to-be/360114/

So the fact that only 5-10 percent of high school grads went to college vs the 60% today says nothing about the difficulty of getting in whatsoever, the admission rates are way lower and the pool of applicants way bigger. Degrees are required for decent pay nowadays, no body needed one back in the 20s, 30s etc.

Grades are required to be higher now than in the 20s and almost everyone that applied back then got in as the pool was so small.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2017/08/25/universities-then-and-now/

Credential inflation is real.

So unfortunately you are wrong. I will lump you in with the group that did not go to college nor has a degree.
There is a college in every podunk town in America now. Literally anyone can get a degree now. You are talking about elite universities and their acceptance rates not colleges in general.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 11, 2025, 10:44:38 AM
It proves that going to college manipulates peoples outlook and thought process. Education isn't always intelligence. Do you think all "highly educated" whatever that means, people are liberal?

College presents the best evidence there currently is for something within a field and often gives contrarian viewpoints. Have you been to college, do you have a degree?

Education isn't always intelligence but you cannot be stupid and earn a phd in physics or math or become a doctor, it simply isn't possible. Higher education correlates very highly with IQ, you will not get someone who is near braindead who is a phd level engineer or could even make it through an undergrad degree.

I do not think all highly educated people are liberal, I think most of them are and folks with higher IQ's TEND to be more liberal, doesn't mean its the case. Everything evolves, including society, conservative viewpoints slow down progress and thats a good thing as it can go wild like men saying they are woman and dominating womans sports, but recognizing trans people is fine and progressive.

You need both views and all the gradients in between to make it work, its the lunatics on the bleeding edges that cannot change there viewpoint when evidence is presented that present the problem imo.


Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 11, 2025, 10:46:33 AM
There is a college in every podunk town in America now. Literally anyone can get a degree now. You are talking about elite universities and their acceptance rates not colleges in general.

colleges in general have a lower acceptance rate. When 5-10% where applying it was near 100% admission, it had to be as so few were. There was very little need for a degree back then, most people could work at a store and support a family. My grandfather was the gm of a wal mart and he dropped out of high school, you need at least a bachelors to hold that position now.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 11, 2025, 12:46:22 PM
College presents the best evidence there currently is for something within a field and often gives contrarian viewpoints. Have you been to college, do you have a degree?

Education isn't always intelligence but you cannot be stupid and earn a phd in physics or math or become a doctor, it simply isn't possible. Higher education correlates very highly with IQ, you will not get someone who is near braindead who is a phd level engineer or could even make it through an undergrad degree.

I do not think all highly educated people are liberal, I think most of them are and folks with higher IQ's TEND to be more liberal, doesn't mean its the case. Everything evolves, including society, conservative viewpoints slow down progress and thats a good thing as it can go wild like men saying they are woman and dominating womans sports, but recognizing trans people is fine and progressive.

You need both views and all the gradients in between to make it work, its the lunatics on the bleeding edges that cannot change there viewpoint when evidence is presented that present the problem imo.
What conservative viewpoints slow down what progress?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 12, 2025, 12:49:26 AM
colleges in general have a lower acceptance rate. When 5-10% where applying it was near 100% admission, it had to be as so few were. There was very little need for a degree back then, most people could work at a store and support a family. My grandfather was the gm of a wal mart and he dropped out of high school, you need at least a bachelors to hold that position now.
This is the problem with oversaturation. A person should not need a degree to be a manager at WalMart but they do. If an employee at WalMart is excellent at their job, shows up to work on time, does everything they are asked and has leadership skills they still get passed up for promotion to an outsider with a degree that has shown nothing. Thankfully, more companies (especially tech) are figuring this out and are promoting on skill only which is why so many graduates end up in shitty jobs.

To answer an earlier question, yes I went to college and have a degree.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2025, 03:45:01 AM
If it's a fact, it's an irrelevant fact.  You are trying to say that people without higher education are smarter than high school graduates.  And that if those high school graduates support Trump it's because they're not smart.  At least that's the clear implication, which is consistent with the arrogant liberal talking points of the past decade.   

How are you defining intelligence?  IQ?  EI?  Common sense?  Life experience?  The ability to manage finances?  Pretty loaded question.

it's not irrelevant. intelligence is pretty clearly defined, life experience would be more wisdom then intelligence, ability to manage finances? wtf..

People with high school who do not have the grades to get into college are less smart, this is correct. they can not handle high amounts of complex data, spot patterns and have poorer memories.

If you think that higher education doesn't equate to being more intelligent

I am talking about general cognitive ability- a measurable trait across many domains- have you ever undergone psychometric testing? they are validated and reliable tests that look at a persons ability across all the domains- verbal reasoning, spatial-visual awareness, emotional intelligence, spoken comprehension, written comprehension, mathematic aptitude etc..

It's not a irrelevant fact, higher education over and over again is highly positively correlated with IQ/G which are well established.

There is nothing arrogant about facts my man, you may not like the facts but they are the facts and they mean something. They would imply that more uneducated folks voted for trump and based on the current literature and common sense- they don't let dummies into nasa for example- that they are less intelligent, doesn't mean they aren't smart they are just not as smart on average.

Higher education can increase cognitive abilities as well, probably something to do with the immense effort university takes with complex material over long stretches of night. Like constant daily study.

What upsets you about this fact?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2025, 03:49:20 AM
What conservative viewpoints slow down what progress?

I am talking about the ideologies in general, conservatism by nature is against progress, its a tradition based view that is slow to evolve and seems skeptical of new modes of living and being. There appears from what I have read a link between it and religiosity.

Left leaning ideas are generally more flexible, based on new modes of living and being and more secular by nature.

I am making no judgement call on which is "correct", as neither are imo. They are simply different interpretations of the same data/world and rely on each other to make sense.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2025, 03:51:54 AM
This is the problem with oversaturation. A person should not need a degree to be a manager at WalMart but they do. If an employee at WalMart is excellent at their job, shows up to work on time, does everything they are asked and has leadership skills they still get passed up for promotion to an outsider with a degree that has shown nothing. Thankfully, more companies (especially tech) are figuring this out and are promoting on skill only which is why so many graduates end up in shitty jobs.

To answer an earlier question, yes I went to college and have a degree.

I agree, degree inflation is a problem. You need a degree to work nowadays and it's nonsense.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 06:50:39 AM
it's not irrelevant. intelligence is pretty clearly defined, life experience would be more wisdom then intelligence, ability to manage finances? wtf..

People with high school who do not have the grades to get into college are less smart, this is correct. they can not handle high amounts of complex data, spot patterns and have poorer memories.

If you think that higher education doesn't equate to being more intelligent

I am talking about general cognitive ability- a measurable trait across many domains- have you ever undergone psychometric testing? they are validated and reliable tests that look at a persons ability across all the domains- verbal reasoning, spatial-visual awareness, emotional intelligence, spoken comprehension, written comprehension, mathematic aptitude etc..

It's not a irrelevant fact, higher education over and over again is highly positively correlated with IQ/G which are well established.

There is nothing arrogant about facts my man, you may not like the facts but they are the facts and they mean something. They would imply that more uneducated folks voted for trump and based on the current literature and common sense- they don't let dummies into nasa for example- that they are less intelligent, doesn't mean they aren't smart they are just not as smart on average.

Higher education can increase cognitive abilities as well, probably something to do with the immense effort university takes with complex material over long stretches of night. Like constant daily study.

What upsets you about this fact?


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.


Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2025, 09:10:56 AM

Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.

parochial is the word you are looking for by the way.

Thanks for stopping by!
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 03:36:55 PM
parochial is the word you are looking for by the way.

Thanks for stopping by!

So Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

You have No answer- Just as I thought.

Thanks for Exposing yourself  & Proving Me correct.
Stay in your Idiot Box.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 12, 2025, 04:05:08 PM
I am talking about the ideologies in general, conservatism by nature is against progress, its a tradition based view that is slow to evolve and seems skeptical of new modes of living and being. There appears from what I have read a link between it and religiosity.

Left leaning ideas are generally more flexible, based on new modes of living and being and more secular by nature.

I am making no judgement call on which is "correct", as neither are imo. They are simply different interpretations of the same data/world and rely on each other to make sense.
Really?? Destroying cities because a drug addict OD'd? Cancel culture, ruining businesses and lives of people that don't agree with them? Assaulting people for wearing a red hat? Forcing children to watch and participate in cross dressing faggotry? I could go on but what's the point? You're too fucking stupid and arrogant to see it, like most liberal douchebags.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2025, 05:18:18 PM
Really?? Destroying cities because a drug addict OD'd? Cancel culture, ruining businesses and lives of people that don't agree with them? Assaulting people for wearing a red hat? Forcing children to watch and participate in cross dressing faggotry? I could go on but what's the point? You're too fucking stupid and arrogant to see it, like most liberal douchebags.

I see you failed to understand my point.

You watch too much news and have probably never actually read a book in your life. The shit you are saying is stupid. There is zero substance to anything you are saying. Your understanding of this stuff is BASIC.

Its like me saying right wing is religious loving pedophiles who systematically raped children, gun loving nuts responsible for the vast majority of shootings, far right fascists autocrats responsible for the immiseration of the masses, racist hillbillies that are in the KKK, money scheming grifters like trump, dumb fucks who cant get into universities, vaccine denying, science denying morons who cause untold suffering, police state loving cowards, anti-abortion psychos who think women should be in the kitchen. You guys are the anchors of the world, if you understood my point, which you don't you would see why thats not an insult. Right wing ideologies are far more attractive to narcissists, another fact.

I was talking about ideologies but you decided to frame the left as all far left which immediately negates your point. You simply aren't a serious person and obviously have emotional regulation issues.

I am sorry I offended you by pointing out the facts of the matter, I am sure if you put effort in you could of went to a school and done something with your life.

Red states are hand out states, the economy always does worse with a repub president and the cities are run by demos because those are the money makers for the country. They are the hubs of economic output and you can't have morons running them. Of course drug usage will be higher, so will crime. These are facts.

Calm down old guy. Don;t worry trad wives will still be available to beat on when you are angry.




Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 12, 2025, 07:01:02 PM
I see you failed to understand my point.

You watch too much news and have probably never actually read a book in your life. The shit you are saying is stupid. There is zero substance to anything you are saying. Your understanding of this stuff is BASIC.

Its like me saying right wing is religious loving pedophiles who systematically raped children, gun loving nuts responsible for the vast majority of shootings, far right fascists autocrats responsible for the immiseration of the masses, racist hillbillies that are in the KKK, money scheming grifters like trump, dumb fucks who cant get into universities, vaccine denying, science denying morons who cause untold suffering, police state loving cowards, anti-abortion psychos who think women should be in the kitchen. You guys are the anchors of the world, if you understood my point, which you don't you would see why thats not an insult. Right wing ideologies are far more attractive to narcissists, another fact.

I was talking about ideologies but you decided to frame the left as all far left which immediately negates your point. You simply aren't a serious person and obviously have emotional regulation issues.

I am sorry I offended you by pointing out the facts of the matter, I am sure if you put effort in you could of went to a school and done something with your life.

Red states are hand out states, the economy always does worse with a repub president and the cities are run by demos because those are the money makers for the country. They are the hubs of economic output and you can't have morons running them. Of course drug usage will be higher, so will crime. These are facts.

Calm down old guy. Don;t worry trad wives will still be available to beat on when you are angry.
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 07:57:14 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)


The Bafoon couldn't even answer this that I posted to him  ::)
Came back with some Pathetically lame reply.


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 07:59:06 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)


The pathetic Bafoon had no reply to this below that I posted to him.


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 08:01:16 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)


The Pathetic Bafoon had no reply to this that I posted to him  ::)


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 08:02:23 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 08:03:13 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)



Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Do you have a Degree ?

Because if you do you don't appear show any of the traits you
attribute to having a degree.

You can't think / see out side the box
very limited overall awareness
Tunnel thinking
Concerned with your Pronouns
Stupid / Idiotic comments regarding fighting others
& asking stupid questions
Failure to recognize / accept that most Liberal Democrat
polices just go to ruin things & many Democrat run states &
cities are completely Fucked'
And that's Just to name a few things

So if you do have a degree none of what you said applies to
yourself.
By your metric you must've voted for Donald.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 12, 2025, 08:06:49 PM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)

The Bafoon couldn't even answer what I posted below to him  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 03:05:02 AM
None of this is fact, not one bit. Just because you post "fact" doesn't make it true, typical liberal stupidity shining through. ::)

its a fact that liberals attain higher education.

It's true that right wing ideology is related to personality traits associated with the dark triad- you are exhibiting this currently.

You are out of your depth.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 03:07:30 AM

The pathetic Bafoon had no reply to this below that I posted to him.

you need some attention lol

it's buffoon as well, the fact that you spelled it incorrectly in two consecutive posts means it wasn't a spelling error lololol.

K I will be back in a week or so to troll you morons.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 11:20:30 AM
you need some attention lol

it's buffoon as well, the fact that you spelled it incorrectly in two consecutive posts means it wasn't a spelling error lololol.

K I will be back in a week or so to troll you morons.

Ahha Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot- Queer boy


You spotted my spelling mistake, well done.

Yet still unable to answer  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 11:35:55 AM
Ahha Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot- Queer boy


You spotted my spelling mistake, well done.

Yet still unable to answer  ::)

Sorry what was your question, lil man.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 01:26:18 PM
Sorry what was your question, lil man.


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt-Idiot-Twat-Queer Boy

Not only are you stupid, now you're either pretending to be forgetful or are,
And unable to scroll through a few posts.

 ::)  Pathetic
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 13, 2025, 02:05:48 PM
I am talking about the ideologies in general, conservatism by nature is against progress, its a tradition based view that is slow to evolve and seems skeptical of new modes of living and being. There appears from what I have read a link between it and religiosity.

Left leaning ideas are generally more flexible, based on new modes of living and being and more secular by nature.

I am making no judgement call on which is "correct", as neither are imo. They are simply different interpretations of the same data/world and rely on each other to make sense.

This comparison between the ideology during the McCarthy era and today says a lot about conservatism.

The McCarthy era (1949 - 1954 was driven by an extreme anti-communist sentiment that was primarily associated with the right wing of American politics, and it used conservative fears to gain political traction. While many conservatives supported the goal of anti-communism, the reckless and abusive tactics employed by Senator Joseph McCarthy and his allies were seen as extreme even by many traditional conservatives at the time.
 
Some of the key aspects of the era's political alignment with what is going on today are:

Conservative Ideological Roots: The movement drew on a long-standing conflict between social conservatives and New Deal progressives, with conservatives often equating liberal social programs or calls for social change with communist plots.

Exploitation of Fear: McCarthy, a right-wing Republican, capitalized on widespread Cold War paranoia about Soviet espionage and domestic subversion to launch highly publicized probes.

Beyond Traditional Conservatism: Many traditional or mainstream conservatives, such as Senator Russell Kirk and President Dwight Eisenhower, were uneasy with or openly condemned McCarthy's "rabid populism" and tactics, which they felt undermined the legitimate anti-communist cause and disregarded due process and constitutional rights.

"Us versus Them" Populism: McCarthyism was characterized by a populist approach that demonized elites and political opponents as traitors or communist sympathizers, creating a culture of fear and suspicion that stifled dissent across the political spectrum.

Bipartisan Support for Anti-Communism: Anti-communist sentiment was strong across both major parties, and few politicians dared to criticize McCarthy initially for fear of being labeled disloyal. However, the most extreme measures and the driving force of the "Red Scare" came from the right.

Violation of Civil Liberties: The era saw a significant erosion of civil liberties, with blacklisting and job losses based on unsubstantiated claims and guilt by association, a consequence of the extreme methods used in the name of national security.

Trump had a close relationship with the notorious Roy Cohn for many years. In 1953 Roy Cohn became chief counsel for Senator Joseph McCarthy's committee rooting out Communists and supposed Communists from the government. Roy Cohn and Donald Trump were friends, allies, and business associates from 1973 when Trump was only 27 years until shortly before Cohn died from AIDS in August 1986. Suffice it to say Roy Cohn was Trump's mentor for 13 years. There is nothing like having the devil as your mentor.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 03:06:14 PM

Pronoun Boy

Khvnt-Idiot-Twat-Queer Boy

Not only are you stupid, now you're either pretending to be forgetful or are,
And unable to scroll through a few posts.

 ::)  Pathetic

what is your question, you posted multiple times about me not answering.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 13, 2025, 03:54:46 PM
its a fact that liberals attain higher education.

It's true that right wing ideology is related to personality traits associated with the dark triad- you are exhibiting this currently.

You are out of your depth.
Again, zero facts posted by you. Why are you liberals such liars? You just spout off bullshit, write "fact" at the end of it and that's supposed to make your lies true. No wonder you morons are so easily manipulated and controlled. ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 13, 2025, 04:50:09 PM
Again, zero facts posted by you. Why are you liberals such liars? You just spout off bullshit, write "fact" at the end of it and that's supposed to make your lies true. No wonder you morons are so easily manipulated and controlled. ::)

So, are you saying you manipulate and control liberals?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 05:16:36 PM
what is your question, you posted multiple times about me not answering.


Really Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

You try & pass yourself off as intelligent & Yet you're as Thick & Stupid
As all the other loony leftist libturds
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 13, 2025, 05:39:12 PM
So, are you saying you manipulate and control liberals?
Yes
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 05:39:25 PM
Your typical Lying Leftist Liberal
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 14, 2025, 03:31:11 AM
Again, zero facts posted by you. Why are you liberals such liars? You just spout off bullshit, write "fact" at the end of it and that's supposed to make your lies true. No wonder you morons are so easily manipulated and controlled. ::)

are you saying that liberals do not have higher education levels? lolol.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2025, 10:01:15 AM
are you saying that liberals do not have higher education levels? lolol.
Yes
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2025, 06:59:34 PM
it's not irrelevant. intelligence is pretty clearly defined, life experience would be more wisdom then intelligence, ability to manage finances? wtf..

People with high school who do not have the grades to get into college are less smart, this is correct. they can not handle high amounts of complex data, spot patterns and have poorer memories.

If you think that higher education doesn't equate to being more intelligent

I am talking about general cognitive ability- a measurable trait across many domains- have you ever undergone psychometric testing? they are validated and reliable tests that look at a persons ability across all the domains- verbal reasoning, spatial-visual awareness, emotional intelligence, spoken comprehension, written comprehension, mathematic aptitude etc..

It's not a irrelevant fact, higher education over and over again is highly positively correlated with IQ/G which are well established.

There is nothing arrogant about facts my man, you may not like the facts but they are the facts and they mean something. They would imply that more uneducated folks voted for trump and based on the current literature and common sense- they don't let dummies into nasa for example- that they are less intelligent, doesn't mean they aren't smart they are just not as smart on average.

Higher education can increase cognitive abilities as well, probably something to do with the immense effort university takes with complex material over long stretches of night. Like constant daily study.

What upsets you about this fact?

I'm not upset.  You are not stating facts.  You are stating some facts but mostly opinion.  And it's based on your limited experience with people.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?  That would explain a lot.

The fact you don't understand the relationship between managing finances and intelligence is telling.  I know a farmer who is a high school graduate.  He's a multimillionaire.  Owns numerous properties free and clear.  Runs an incredibly successful business.  I also know more than one person with higher education (PhD, etc.) who are broke.  Who is more intelligent?  Rhetorical question, because I doubt you can give an intellectually honest answer.  But this highlights how shortsighted your view of intelligence is.

It isn't about taking some test.  Or obtaining a degree.  It's about a combination of everything I've mentioned. 

What you are trying to say is people who have higher education are more intelligent than high school graduates.  You are wrong.  Someone with a PhD in psychology knows a lot about psychology.  But what does that person know about building a home?  Or creating wealth? 

And no, less intelligent people do not support conservatives, Republicans, or Trump, which is the entire reason you started trolling on this issue.  Simply put, your world view is retarded.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 01:38:49 PM
Pretty disrespectful. 

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Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 02:26:01 PM
I'm not upset.  You are not stating facts.  You are stating some facts but mostly opinion.  And it's based on your limited experience with people.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?  That would explain a lot.

The fact you don't understand the relationship between managing finances and intelligence is telling.  I know a farmer who is a high school graduate.  He's a multimillionaire.  Owns numerous properties free and clear.  Runs an incredibly successful business.  I also know more than one person with higher education (PhD, etc.) who are broke.  Who is more intelligent?  Rhetorical question, because I doubt you can give an intellectually honest answer.  But this highlights how shortsighted your view of intelligence is.

It isn't about taking some test.  Or obtaining a degree.  It's about a combination of everything I've mentioned. 

What you are trying to say is people who have higher education are more intelligent than high school graduates.  You are wrong.  Someone with a PhD in psychology knows a lot about psychology.  But what does that person know about building a home?  Or creating wealth? 

And no, less intelligent people do not support conservatives, Republicans, or Trump, which is the entire reason you started trolling on this issue.  Simply put, your world view is retarded.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you realize how hard it is to get a PHD? lolol or a doctorate? its not a matter of work ethic, you have to be a certain level of intelligence.

You need a certain level of intelligence to manage finances but its not much. Finances management have way more to do with impulse control, concern for money etc.. then intelligence. I don't think you understand what intelligence is, what IQ is measuring. You are talking about things like being pragmatic, controlled, disciplined etc.. they correlate with intelligence very weakly. reasoning and spatial awareness appear to correlate to the highest degree.

The PHD is more intelligent, he may have poor impulse control, less access to resources, less support etc..

You are not talking about the same thing as me and this would explain the disconnect here.

And yes, less intelligent people support trump, have a lower education and have poor critical thinking skills. The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc.

A PHD in math is lightyears more intelligent then trump. The fact that you don't understand that tells me that you likely have never went to school or achieved a higher level of education. They can handle far more complex data and recognize patterns of far more complexity, have faster processing, far better memories etc. Do you have any gifted friends?

Liberals obtain higher education, that's a fact.  The higher up you go the smarter the person tends to be, it's been researched.

You are conflating various factors with intelligence.

Also, what would aspergers explain? it would be interesting to hear your perverted view of what that means or would mean.

Have you ever done any pschosocial educational assessments? none of the things you are stating are measure on IQ and various cognitive tests, none.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 15, 2025, 02:30:51 PM
I'm not upset.  You are not stating facts.  You are stating some facts but mostly opinion.  And it's based on your limited experience with people.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?  That would explain a lot.

The fact you don't understand the relationship between managing finances and intelligence is telling.  I know a farmer who is a high school graduate.  He's a multimillionaire.  Owns numerous properties free and clear.  Runs an incredibly successful business.  I also know more than one person with higher education (PhD, etc.) who are broke.  Who is more intelligent?  Rhetorical question, because I doubt you can give an intellectually honest answer.  But this highlights how shortsighted your view of intelligence is.

It isn't about taking some test.  Or obtaining a degree.  It's about a combination of everything I've mentioned. 

What you are trying to say is people who have higher education are more intelligent than high school graduates.  You are wrong.  Someone with a PhD in psychology knows a lot about psychology.  But what does that person know about building a home?  Or creating wealth? 

And no, less intelligent people do not support conservatives, Republicans, or Trump, which is the entire reason you started trolling on this issue.  Simply put, your world view is retarded.

This is so True 😊

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 02:35:31 PM
I'm not upset.  You are not stating facts.  You are stating some facts but mostly opinion.  And it's based on your limited experience with people.

Do you have Asperger's Syndrome?  That would explain a lot.

The fact you don't understand the relationship between managing finances and intelligence is telling.  I know a farmer who is a high school graduate.  He's a multimillionaire.  Owns numerous properties free and clear.  Runs an incredibly successful business.  I also know more than one person with higher education (PhD, etc.) who are broke.  Who is more intelligent?  Rhetorical question, because I doubt you can give an intellectually honest answer.  But this highlights how shortsighted your view of intelligence is.

It isn't about taking some test.  Or obtaining a degree.  It's about a combination of everything I've mentioned. 

What you are trying to say is people who have higher education are more intelligent than high school graduates.  You are wrong.  Someone with a PhD in psychology knows a lot about psychology.  But what does that person know about building a home?  Or creating wealth? 

And no, less intelligent people do not support conservatives, Republicans, or Trump, which is the entire reason you started trolling on this issue.  Simply put, your world view is retarded.

I didnt see the limited experience with people comment, thats a very odd thing to say, I sit with people all day long for a living lol. Its also a very strange assumption lol.

You do realize that IQ is a thing right?  Can you not tell when you are talking to someone if they are bright? the explanations the give, the depth, cognitive agility etc. The different topics they can speak intelligently on etc.. its pretty easy to tell.  I have people on my team that do testing and its not hard to spot the brilliant kids from the avg ones. Hard work would trump it all in my opinion but thats a different story.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 02:36:38 PM
This is so True 😊


You looking to actually fight irl?

if so, what are your stats?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Moontrane on October 15, 2025, 02:36:49 PM
Pretty disrespectful. 

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg

NEW: Rep. Nancy Pelosi snaps at reporter and puts her finger in her face after being asked about J6.

Reporter: "Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?"

Pelosi: "Shut up!"

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1978531529115496858

Almost as classy as Jeffries' "Keep your mouth shut!"  ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 15, 2025, 02:41:36 PM

You looking to actually fight irl?

if so, what are your stats?

Idiot Pronoun Boy
 Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer boy

Yet again responding to someone else's reply I posted to.  ::)

As I reside mainly in England - why on earth would I even think of Fighting
A Queer Boy Khvnt like you who lives in Canada.

Grow up you utter Plonker.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on October 15, 2025, 02:43:45 PM
And yes, less intelligent people support trump, have a lower education and have poor critical thinking skills. The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc.

According to you, he's a dummy.  Despite that, he's apparently able to lead you and your ilk around by a string, and constantly manipulate the left into self destruction. 

He's also single handedly dismantled the national media as we know it.

Imagine how much more he could do if he IQ was a bit higher.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 02:47:16 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you realize how hard it is to get a PHD? lolol or a doctorate? its not a matter of work ethic, you have to be a certain level of intelligence.

You need a certain level of intelligence to manage finances but its not much. Finances management have way more to do with impulse control, concern for money etc.. then intelligence. I don't think you understand what intelligence is, what IQ is measuring. You are talking about things like being pragmatic, controlled, disciplined etc.. they correlate with intelligence very weakly. reasoning and spatial awareness appear to correlate to the highest degree.

The PHD is more intelligent, he may have poor impulse control, less access to resources, less support etc..

You are not talking about the same thing as me and this would explain the disconnect here.

And yes, less intelligent people support trump, have a lower education and have poor critical thinking skills. The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc.

A PHD in math is lightyears more intelligent then trump. The fact that you don't understand that tells me that you likely have never went to school or achieved a higher level of education. They can handle far more complex data and recognize patterns of far more complexity, have faster processing, far better memories etc. Do you have any gifted friends?

Liberals obtain higher education, that's a fact.  The higher up you go the smarter the person tends to be, it's been researched.

You are conflating various factors with intelligence.

Also, what would aspergers explain? it would be interesting to hear your perverted view of what that means or would mean.

Have you ever done any pschosocial educational assessments? none of the things you are stating are measure on IQ and various cognitive tests, none.

So do you have Asperger's Syndrome or not?  I'm not judging you if you do and I don't think it's a bad thing.  It would just explain a lot of how you communicate on the board. 

You are correct about one thing:  we are talking about different components that constitute intelligence.  Your view is myopic.  It is limited to IQ and higher education.  Mine is comprehensive.  It's includes IQ, education, emotional intelligence, life experience, self-control, the ability to socially interact with a wide variety of people, etc.  And yes, one of the ways intelligence manifests itself is the ability to manage one's affairs, including finances.  A person with a PhD has shown mastery of one subject, but not necessarily all other components that make up intelligence.   

But I want to focus on this word salad from you:  "The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc."

This is retarded.  Trump graduated from one of the best universities in the country, so he has the higher education you are so focused on. 

He did not start with "$400 million."  That is a made up number by a biased media outlet.  You will not find any actual facts/evidence supporting this "$400 million." 

Regardless of what he started with, he became one of the most successful real estate developers in American history.  His brand is everywhere.  All over the world.  People pay him money just to use his name.  He is literally one of the wealthiest persons on the planet.

He became POTUS, twice, with zero political experience and with incredible forces fighting him, including the media, academia, Hollywood, Congress, the courts, etc.  They tried to put him in jail for life, tried to bankrupt him, tried to destroy his family, accused him of being a Russian spy, etc.  And despite all of that he has been remarkably successful.  The man is several moves ahead of his opponents.  Constantly.  Anyone not suffering from TDS can see how successful and intelligent the man is.

And you can cling to that talking point about whether intelligent people support liberals, less intelligent people support Trump, etc., but it just shows how simple minded you are.  For example, no truly intelligent person (not suffering from TDS) believes men and women are on equal footing when it comes to sports and athletics.  It's science.  Or that a little boy should have his penis amputated.  Or a little girl should have her breasts amputated.  Or that a child should be given puberty blockers. 

But you keep believing you are the smartest person in the room.  You're not. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 15, 2025, 02:52:23 PM
So do you have Asperger's Syndrome or not?  I'm not judging you if you do and I don't think it's a bad thing.  It would just explain a lot of how you communicate on the board. 

You are correct about one thing:  we are talking about different components that constitute intelligence.  Your view is myopic.  It is limited to IQ and higher education.  Mine is comprehensive.  It's includes IQ, education, emotional intelligence, life experience, self-control, the ability to socially interact with a wide variety of people, etc.  And yes, one of the ways intelligence manifests itself is the ability to manage one's affairs, including finances.  A person with a PhD has shown mastery of one subject, but not necessarily all other components that make up intelligence.   

But I want to focus on this word salad from you:  "The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc."

This is retarded.  Trump graduated from one of the best universities in the country, so he has the higher education you are so focused on. 

He did not start with "$400 million."  That is a made up number by a biased media outlet.  You will not find any actual facts/evidence supporting this "$400 million." 

Regardless of what he started with, he became of the most successful real estate developers in American history.  His brand is everywhere.  All over the world.  People pay him money just to use his name.  He is literally one of the wealthiest persons on the planet.

He became POTUS, twice, with zero political experience and with incredibly forces fighting him, including the media, academia, Hollywood, Congress, the courts, etc.  They tried to put him in jail for life, tried to bankrupt him, tried to destroy his family, accused him of being a Russian spy, etc.  And despite all of that he has been remarkably successful.  The man is several moves ahead of his opponents.  Constantly.  Anyone not suffering from TDS can see how successful and intelligent the man is.

And you can cling to that talking point about whether intelligent people support liberals, less intelligent people support Trump, etc., but it just shows how simple minded you are.  For example, no truly intelligent person (not suffering from TDS) believes men and women are on equal footing when it comes to sports and athletics.  It's science.  Or that a little boy should have his penis amputated.  Or a little girl should have her breasts amputated.  Or that a child should be given puberty blockers. 

But you keep believing you are the smartest person in the room.  You're not.


Pls Remember who you’re dealing with
It really does explain a lot .

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 03:00:38 PM
I didnt see the limited experience with people comment, thats a very odd thing to say, I sit with people all day long for a living lol. Its also a very strange assumption lol.

You do realize that IQ is a thing right?  Can you not tell when you are talking to someone if they are bright? the explanations the give, the depth, cognitive agility etc. The different topics they can speak intelligently on etc.. its pretty easy to tell.  I have people on my team that do testing and its not hard to spot the brilliant kids from the avg ones. Hard work would trump it all in my opinion but thats a different story.

I interact with people from all walks of life all the time.  I can typically tell within a matter of minutes whether that person has higher education.  What you are unable to grasp is that higher education doesn't necessarily mean the person is intelligent. 

Here is one example.  Look at these clips of Katie Porter, who wants to be Governor of California.  She went to Yale undergad and Harvard law school.  She's an idiot. 

  [/youtube]

  [/youtube]

Now compare her to Charlie Kirk, who was a high school graduate.  He would run circles around Katie Porter and was head and shoulders more intelligent than she is. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 03:23:41 PM
So do you have Asperger's Syndrome or not?  I'm not judging you if you do and I don't think it's a bad thing.  It would just explain a lot of how you communicate on the board.

-- how do I interact?

You are correct about one thing:  we are talking about different components that constitute intelligence.  Your view is myopic.  It is limited to IQ and higher education.  Mine is comprehensive.  It's includes IQ, education, emotional intelligence, life experience, self-control, the ability to socially interact with a wide variety of people, etc.  And yes, one of the ways intelligence manifests itself is the ability to manage one's affairs, including finances.  A person with a PhD has shown mastery of one subject, but not necessarily all other components that make up intelligence.   


--My view is based on knowledge about what constitutes intelligence. To obtain higher education you require all of these things, do you not understand that. You cannot be stupid and obtain a PHD or MD. The things you are including have almost no impact on intelligence. Like self control, someone can be genius but have addiction issues- it has zero bearing on that- social skills are not related to any metric or test I have seen or reviewed from any professional, there are numerous disorders where this would be impaired, in both highly intelligent and low intelligence- poor theory of mind in ASD, BPD, NPD amongst others.
--You have zero idea how hard an actual PHD is to get if you think managing finances makes one smart and that all a phd is in intelligence in one area, its knoweldge in a specific area and it shows a mastery of time management, self-control (hours upon hours of grueling study of complex material), discipline, complex problem solving, high level memory and retrival, etc thats what higher education correlates with higher intelligence. I am not debating this, its a fact and anything you can lump into your expansive definition is included in a PHD, often at higher levels.
--Einstein had aspergers, do you think because he wasnt found of chit chat that your friend running his business could ever match his intelligence? he never had much money, probably handled it poorly amongst other things, but his intelligence and iq aka his ability to solve more complex problems and think more deeply about things is way higher then most anyone ever.
--IQ and EQ are often inversely related. You might want to read up on what you are talking about because it sounds like an opinion while I am talking about facts and experience.

But I want to focus on this word salad from you:  "The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc."

-

This is retarded.  Trump graduated from one of the best universities in the country, so he has the higher education you are so focused on.

- oh yes daddy paid him through lolol please stop with that shit. He is a con-man.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/12/1705902/-Former-Wharton-Professor-Donald-Trump-Is-the-Dumbest-Goddam-Student-I-Ever-Had



He did not start with "$400 million."  That is a made up number by a biased media outlet.  You will not find any actual facts/evidence supporting this "$400 million."

--sorry was it 100million?

Regardless of what he started with, he became of the most successful real estate developers in American history.  His brand is everywhere.  All over the world.  People pay him money just to use his name.  He is literally one of the wealthiest persons on the planet.

- He has become one of the wealthiest people on the planet mostly via crypto.
- you cant say regardless of what he started with, what was his father again?
- he is good at marketing

He became POTUS, twice, with zero political experience and with incredibly forces fighting him, including the media, academia, Hollywood, Congress, the courts, etc.  They tried to put him in jail for life, tried to bankrupt him, tried to destroy his family, accused him of being a Russian spy, etc.  And despite all of that he has been remarkably successful.  The man is several moves ahead of his opponents.  Constantly.  Anyone not suffering from TDS can see how successful and intelligent the man is.

-- omfg lololol ya trump is playing 4d chess. He is successful, mainly by being a fucking con-man grifter- a fucking fact. He has used crypto to rug pull people, shorts people constantly, has bankrupted casinos and has a slew of unsuccessful business ventures.
--Again this is not related to intelligence. Just say you haven't met an intelligent person bud, its ok. Most with any high degree of intelligence don't chase money but virture and live an intellectual life. Trump probably hasn't read a book. He may be industrious, charming, high energy, relentless and a slew of other things but he is not intelligent. If you were to ask him to elaborate on anything, he simply cannot.

And you can cling to that talking point about whether intelligent people support liberals, less intelligent people support Trump, etc., but it just shows how simple minded you are.  For example, no truly intelligent person (not suffering from TDS) believes men and women are on equal footing when it comes to sports and athletics.  It's science.  Or that a little boy should have his penis amputated.  Or a little girl should have her breasts amputated.  Or that a child should be given puberty blockers.

-- I know plenty of liberals who do not support any of that, you are talking far left nutbags. not sure what your point was here. I am a centrist, probably slight right center.

But you keep believing you are the smartest person in the room.  You're not.

-- you keep bringing up my intelligence, thank you. I did skip a grade and graduated 2 years earlier for first undergrad. I know what my IQ is and and based on that fact what part of the population I fall into. However, thats speaks only to my ability to reason, store information, recognize patterns etc it says nothing about social skill, emotional intelligence, pragmatism, work ethic, diligence, character, mood regulation etc et.

I am autodidactic as well so those things would be very important.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 03:33:02 PM
I interact with people from all walks of life all the time.  I can typically tell within a matter of minutes whether that person has higher education.  What you are unable to grasp is that higher education doesn't necessarily mean the person is intelligent. 

Here is one example.  Look at these clips of Katie Porter, who wants to be Governor of California.  She went to Yale undergad and Harvard law school.  She's an idiot. 

  [/youtube]

  [/youtube]

Now compare her to Charlie Kirk, who was a high school graduate.  He would run circles around Katie Porter and was head and shoulders more intelligent than she is.

You cannot achieve a PHD and be stupid. There is research on this, this is a fact, the higher your education goes the smarter one tends to be. Its a correlation however.

So can you be stupid and be a medical doctor, it does not appear so, the amount of complex information required to store, utilize and manipulate is vast its simply doesn't add up. The studies all show this.

That's why you need to seperate knowledge from intelligence. thats why testing is important, standardized testing which takes that out of the equation. As the questions become more complex and you have less time to solve them only the smartest will answer them.

Charlie is definitely smart, well read on the topics he is interested in, i don't know who this person is above and in that clip she seems agitated and flustered- again there are factors like social anxiety, performance anxiety etcetc which would cause this.

I am saying there is standard testing for intelligence, we know this, it is highly accurate and prescise, it measures a construct called G and these tests approximate it better in a standard setting to avoid stress, anxiety etc etc..

this correlate has been found to increase with higher education- of those who apply for a phd- probably 100s only a few are selected. In med school only a few are selected.

Is business success correlated with this? I am unsure I can find out though.

Can you confirm you understand my position? Because if we are not talking about the same thing I dont see how we can communicate.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 03:37:35 PM
According to you, he's a dummy.  Despite that, he's apparently able to lead you and your ilk around by a string, and constantly manipulate the left into self destruction. 

He's also single handedly dismantled the national media as we know it.

Imagine how much more he could do if he IQ was a bit higher.

I enjoy polemics, I only care about what he does to my portfolio and some other stuff . other then that he has been great entertainment.

He is a malignant narc, of course he is going to drive everyone nuts, thats what they do. Manipulate, lie, not play by the rules etc..

that doesn't signal intelligence it signals pathology.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 03:43:50 PM
So do you have Asperger's Syndrome or not?  I'm not judging you if you do and I don't think it's a bad thing.  It would just explain a lot of how you communicate on the board.

-- how do I interact?

You are correct about one thing:  we are talking about different components that constitute intelligence.  Your view is myopic.  It is limited to IQ and higher education.  Mine is comprehensive.  It's includes IQ, education, emotional intelligence, life experience, self-control, the ability to socially interact with a wide variety of people, etc.  And yes, one of the ways intelligence manifests itself is the ability to manage one's affairs, including finances.  A person with a PhD has shown mastery of one subject, but not necessarily all other components that make up intelligence.   


--My view is based on knowledge about what constitutes intelligence. To obtain higher education you require all of these things, do you not understand that. You cannot be stupid and obtain a PHD or MD. The things you are including have almost no impact on intelligence. Like self control, someone can be genius but have addiction issues- it has zero bearing on that- social skills are not related to any metric or test I have seen or reviewed from any professional, there are numerous disorders where this would be impaired, in both highly intelligent and low intelligence- poor theory of mind in ASD, BPD, NPD amongst others.
--You have zero idea how hard an actual PHD is to get if you think managing finances makes one smart and that all a phd is in intelligence in one area, its knoweldge in a specific area and it shows a mastery of time management, self-control (hours upon hours of grueling study of complex material), discipline, complex problem solving, high level memory and retrival, etc thats what higher education correlates with higher intelligence. I am not debating this, its a fact and anything you can lump into your expansive definition is included in a PHD, often at higher levels.
--Einstein had aspergers, do you think because he wasnt found of chit chat that your friend running his business could ever match his intelligence? he never had much money, probably handled it poorly amongst other things, but his intelligence and iq aka his ability to solve more complex problems and think more deeply about things is way higher then most anyone ever.
--IQ and EQ are often inversely related. You might want to read up on what you are talking about because it sounds like an opinion while I am talking about facts and experience.

But I want to focus on this word salad from you:  "The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc."

-

This is retarded.  Trump graduated from one of the best universities in the country, so he has the higher education you are so focused on.

- oh yes daddy paid him through lolol please stop with that shit. He is a con-man.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/12/1705902/-Former-Wharton-Professor-Donald-Trump-Is-the-Dumbest-Goddam-Student-I-Ever-Had



He did not start with "$400 million."  That is a made up number by a biased media outlet.  You will not find any actual facts/evidence supporting this "$400 million."

--sorry was it 100million?

Regardless of what he started with, he became of the most successful real estate developers in American history.  His brand is everywhere.  All over the world.  People pay him money just to use his name.  He is literally one of the wealthiest persons on the planet.

- He has become one of the wealthiest people on the planet mostly via crypto.
- you cant say regardless of what he started with, what was his father again?
- he is good at marketing

He became POTUS, twice, with zero political experience and with incredibly forces fighting him, including the media, academia, Hollywood, Congress, the courts, etc.  They tried to put him in jail for life, tried to bankrupt him, tried to destroy his family, accused him of being a Russian spy, etc.  And despite all of that he has been remarkably successful.  The man is several moves ahead of his opponents.  Constantly.  Anyone not suffering from TDS can see how successful and intelligent the man is.

-- omfg lololol ya trump is playing 4d chess. He is successful, mainly by being a fucking con-man grifter- a fucking fact. He has used crypto to rug pull people, shorts people constantly, has bankrupted casinos and has a slew of unsuccessful business ventures.
--Again this is not related to intelligence. Just say you haven't met an intelligent person bud, its ok. Most with any high degree of intelligence don't chase money but virture and live an intellectual life. Trump probably hasn't read a book. He may be industrious, charming, high energy, relentless and a slew of other things but he is not intelligent. If you were to ask him to elaborate on anything, he simply cannot.

And you can cling to that talking point about whether intelligent people support liberals, less intelligent people support Trump, etc., but it just shows how simple minded you are.  For example, no truly intelligent person (not suffering from TDS) believes men and women are on equal footing when it comes to sports and athletics.  It's science.  Or that a little boy should have his penis amputated.  Or a little girl should have her breasts amputated.  Or that a child should be given puberty blockers.

-- I know plenty of liberals who do not support any of that, you are talking far left nutbags. not sure what your point was here. I am a centrist, probably slight right center.

But you keep believing you are the smartest person in the room.  You're not.

-- you keep bringing up my intelligence, thank you. I did skip a grade and graduated 2 years earlier for first undergrad. I know what my IQ is and and based on that fact what part of the population I fall into. However, thats speaks only to my ability to reason, store information, recognize patterns etc it says nothing about social skill, emotional intelligence, pragmatism, work ethic, diligence, character, mood regulation etc et.

I am autodidactic as well so those things would be very important.

Good grief.  Did you really post a Daily Kos article?  lol   ;D

Trump earned his wealth through crypto?  You really are being a troll.  He was a billionaire long before crypto was a thing.  He earned his billions in real estate.  For someone harping on this whole intelligence thing, you say some pretty unintelligent, easily disprovable things. 

Like the "$400 million."  Now you are saying "$100 million"?  Exactly how much did he get from his father? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 03:48:32 PM
You cannot achieve a PHD and be stupid. There is research on this, this is a fact, the higher your education goes the smarter one tends to be. Its a correlation however.

So can you be stupid and be a medical doctor, it does not appear so, the amount of complex information required to store, utilize and manipulate is vast its simply doesn't add up. The studies all show this.

That's why you need to seperate knowledge from intelligence. thats why testing is important, standardized testing which takes that out of the equation. As the questions become more complex and you have less time to solve them only the smartest will answer them.

Charlie is definitely smart, well read on the topics he is interested in, i don't know who this person is above and in that clip she seems agitated and flustered- again there are factors like social anxiety, performance anxiety etcetc which would cause this.

I am saying there is standard testing for intelligence, we know this, it is highly accurate and prescise, it measures a construct called G and these tests approximate it better in a standard setting to avoid stress, anxiety etc etc..

this correlate has been found to increase with higher education- of those who apply for a phd- probably 100s only a few are selected. In med school only a few are selected.

Is business success correlated with this? I am unsure I can find out though.

Can you confirm you understand my position? Because if we are not talking about the same thing I dont see how we can communicate.

I understand your position.  I disagree with your position.  You believe IQ and higher education = intelligence. 

My position is a lot more complex.  I think IQ and higher education are factors, but not necessarily determinative.  I've met too many highly educated idiots and too many incredibly intelligent high school graduates to conclude otherwise. 

I'm beating a dead horse here, but an advanced degree makes someone a presumptive expert in that particular field of study.  It does not mean the person is necessarily highly intelligent.  Even an autistic person can master particular areas.   

Your viewpoint is so incredibly narrow that I have to believe you are just being a troll.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 03:54:17 PM
Good grief.  Did you really post a Daily Kos article?  lol   ;D

Trump earned his wealth through crypto?  You really are being a troll.  He was a billionaire long before crypto was a thing.  He earned his billions in real estate.  For someone harping on this whole intelligence thing, you say some pretty unintelligent, easily disprovable things. 

Like the "$400 million."  Now you are saying "$100 million"?  Exactly how much did he get from his father?

he has doubled his net worth this year, mainly through crypto. So it took him how many years to make so much then double it in 9 months in crypto. My point stands. I guess it would be depend on what you meant by one of the most, I would not consider him one of the most and if he is its because his net worth doubled. What is one of the most, top 100, top 1000? I mean he was probably worth a couple of billion which would put him on the bottom rungs of the billionaires.

400 million is what I have seen reported. The quote from the article still stands, disprove it then.

https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

I have seen it reported that it was a 60 million loan and over 400 inherited. as if he didnt have a silver spoon and opportunities in real estate because of his father, come on man, jesus.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 04:03:02 PM
I understand your position.  I disagree with you position.  You believe IQ and higher education = intelligence. 

My position is a lot more complex.  I think IQ and higher education are factors, but not necessarily determinative.  I've met too many highly educated idiots and too many incredibly intelligent high school graduates to conclude otherwise. 

I'm beating a dead horse here, but an advanced degree makes someone a presumptive expert in that particular field of study.  It does not mean the person is necessarily highly intelligent.  Even an autistic person can master particular areas.   

Your viewpoint is so incredibly narrow that I have to believe you are just being a troll.

You do not understand my position. You do understand what correlation means right? You position is a lot more complex because of noise not signal. You are including factors that are not intelligence, like work ethic, which I value more highly for example.

you have not given a proper definition of intelligence and muddled it with factors unrelated. It's so diluted I am not even sure what you are talking about. When a family comes to the clinic and they want to know what stream of school to place him in, the psychologist administers psychoeducational assessments, which measure cognitive ability- none of the shit you are saying- and give a iq based on all the factors of this standardized test. Sometimes the kids have high working memory but poor written output, or terrible reasoning and comprehension- this all get factored him compared to other kids and we arrive at something approximating intelligence.

So again, higher education correlates with IQ strongly. Does success in business also correlate and to what degree I do not know, does self- control correlate- not really, does wealth correlate- weakly.

So answer this question can someone who isn't very bright become a specialist in medicine? you think they would pass the MCAT etc?

Elon musk is autistic, he is literally the most successful person on earth, is he the smartest person on earth?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 04:08:44 PM
he has doubled his net worth this year, mainly through crypto. So it took him how many years to make so much then double it in 9 months in crypto. My point stands. I guess it would be depend on what you meant by one of the most, I would not consider him one of the most and if he is its because his net worth doubled. What is one of the most, top 100, top 1000? I mean he was probably worth a couple of billion which would put him on the bottom rungs of the billionaires.

400 million is what I have seen reported. The quote from the article still stands, disprove it then.

https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd2564eaf97605ab90acc3a67

I have seen it reported that it was a 60 million loan and over 400 inherited. as if he didnt have a silver spoon and opportunities in real estate because of his father, come on man, jesus.

Dude.  I suck at math, but even I can figure this out.  The world population is about 8 billion.  There are only about 3,000 billionaires worldwide.  So yes, Trump was one of the wealthiest persons on the planet before he became POTUS, having nothing to do with crypto. 

I don't need to disprove reporting from a biased news source that isn't providing actual evidence to support their contention.  It's stupid. 

Trump definitely started ahead of where the average American would be, but the fact he took what he had and multiplied it many times over is evidence of how smart the man is.  For example, not every trust fund baby maintains or grows their wealth.  And none of them become one of the wealthiest persons on earth and then literally the most powerful person on earth. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 04:17:01 PM
Dude.  I suck at math, but even I can figure this out.  The world population is about 8 billion.  There are only about 3,000 billionaires worldwide.  So yes, Trump was one of the wealthiest persons on the planet before he became POTUS, having nothing to do with crypto. 

I don't need to disprove reporting from a biased news source that isn't providing actual evidence to support their contention.  It's stupid. 

Trump definitely started ahead of where the average American would be, but the fact he took what he had and multiplied it many times over is evidence of how smart the man is.  For example, not evert trust fund baby maintains or grows their wealth.  And none of them become one of the wealthiest persons on earth and then literally the most powerful person on earth.

he likely got a 413 million inheritance. If I put that into the fucking sandp I would have what he has. You never said what one of the wealthiest people means, so if you are saying billionaires is the criteria he would fit that criteria. I was thinking like top 100

Again he doubled his net worth. So it takes what 50 years to accrue that 60 million on the low end and 413 on the high end with connections via his dad etc to make 50% of his money which he then doubles via corruption in 9 months. He must be brilliant to double it in 9 months right? I mean it couldn't be opportunity, corruption, grifting etc he must of gotten 50% smarter! nah when you have money you make money, he was born with lots of it and lots of opportunity, it doesnt make him a genius, making money doesn't make anyone a genius.

Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 04:18:06 PM
You do not understand my position. You do understand what correlation means right? You position is a lot more complex because of noise not signal. You are including factors that are not intelligence, like work ethic, which I value more highly for example.

you have not given a proper definition of intelligence and muddled it with factors unrelated. It's so diluted I am not even sure what you are talking about. When a family comes to the clinic and they want to know what stream of school to place him in, the psychologist administers psychoeducational assessments, which measure cognitive ability- none of the shit you are saying- and give a iq based on all the factors of this standardized test. Sometimes the kids have high working memory but poor written output, or terrible reasoning and comprehension- this all get factored him compared to other kids and we arrive at something approximating intelligence.

So again, higher education correlates with IQ strongly. Does success in business also correlate and to what degree I do not know, does self- control correlate- not really, does wealth correlate- weakly.

So answer this question can someone who isn't very bright become a specialist in medicine? you think they would pass the MCAT etc?

Elon musk is autistic, he is literally the most successful person on earth, is he the smartest person on earth?

You're all over the place.  When a child is being given an aptitude test to determine where the child should be placed, that is only part of the analysis.  The child still should be socially adjusted to his or her peers, which has zero to do with testing. 

You are free to disagree.  I'm not mad at you.  But the difference between us is I always leave room for people to express their opinions--even retarded ones like yours--and I recognize that not only can I be wrong, but I can change my mind, which I do all the time. 

You are going in circles.  We have different definitions of intelligence.  Someone can take and ace a test, but still be an idiot.  Like I said, mastering one subject doesn't automatically mean the person is highly intelligent (if you have a more than myopic view of intelligence).

Elon is a stinkin genius.  No question.   
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 04:21:46 PM
he likely got a 413 million inheritance. If I put that into the fucking sandp I would have what he has. You never said what one of the wealthiest people means, so if you are saying billionaires is the criteria he would fit that criteria. I was thinking like top 100

Again he doubled his net worth. So it takes what 50 years to accrue that 60 million on the low end and 413 on the high end with connections via his dad etc to make 50% of his money which he then doubles via corruption in 9 months. He must be brilliant to double it in 9 months right? I mean it couldn't be opportunity, corruption, grifting etc he must of gotten 50% smarter! nah when you have money you make money, he was born with lots of it and lots of opportunity, it doesnt make him a genius, making money doesn't make anyone a genius.

Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.

So now it's $414 million?  Dude.  Just stop.  You're embarrassing yourself. 

Building wealth is "low iq high energy people stuff"?  That is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.  Now don't make me put you in the Lurker category. I have entire threads devoted to mocking some of the stupid stuff he has said.   ;D 

You must be broke.  Wait.  You live in Canada.  Never mind.  lol
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 04:25:24 PM
You're all over the place.  When a child is being given an aptitude test to determine where the child should be placed, that is only part of the analysis.  The child still should be socially adjusted to his or her peers, which has zero to do with testing. 

You are free to disagree.  I'm not mad at you.  But the difference between us is I always leave room for people to express their opinions--even retarded ones like yours--and I recognize that not only can I be wrong, but I can change my mind, which I do all the time. 

You are going in circles.  We have different definitions of intelligence.  Someone can take and ace a test, but still be an idiot.  Like I said, mastering one subject doesn't automatically mean the person is highly intelligent (if you have a more than myopic view of intelligence).

Elon is a stinkin genius.  No question.   

i work with this shit daily. I see neuropsychiatric concerns in pediatrics. I work with a team of professionals who administer full on testing and incorporate them into DDX's etc. IQ stands for intelligence quotient, its a metric meant to be the best approximation of G or general factor. So you are just incorrect.

you cannot take an iq test and ace it and be an idiot, you simply don't understand what the test is. You can take a chemistry test and ace it and be an idiot via hard work etc up to a point, at a certain point you cannot overcome the complexity with the horsepower you have.

Have you actually ever taken an IQ test? do you know what kind of questions they ask? its not based on knowledge at all. you couldn't be a moron and ace them.

I know a lot of people who are smarter then Elon- iq wise and know more about a lot of things then him. He is very intelligent but combined with that intelligence is a near psychotic work ethic and hyperfocus and frankly hyperfixation which allows him to do what he does. Which I think proves my point. I know someone who speaks 10 languages, can do advanced quantum physics amongst other things but could never do what musk does and thats because its not just intelligence
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2025, 04:28:30 PM
So now it's $414 million?  Dude.  Just stop.  You're embarrassing yourself. 

Building wealth is "low iq high energy people stuff"?  That is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.  Now don't make me put you in the Lurker category. I have entire threads devoted to mocking some of the stupid stuff he has said.   ;D 

You must be broke.  Wait.  You live in Canada.  Never mind.  lol

I said it was 400 the article says 413 specifically, stop being so pedantic, you artistic? I like that little diversion tactic though.

Did I say building wealth was low iq high energy? you aren't arguing in good faith because you are losing. So much for your ability to change your mind. You are now twisting my words and cherry picking to try and win points instead of discussing in good faith.

I am rich, I think about money all day long and how I can get more. It's never enough and I know that one day it will be and then everyone will respect me and I can finally give up this chase.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 15, 2025, 04:35:32 PM
I said it was 400 the article says 413 specifically, stop being so pedantic, you artistic? I like that little diversion tactic though.

Did I say building wealth was low iq high energy? you aren't arguing in good faith because you are losing. So much for your ability to change your mind. You are now twisting my words and cherry picking to try and win points instead of discussing in good faith.

I am rich, I think about money all day long and how I can get more. It's never enough and I know that one day it will be and then everyone will respect me and I can finally give up this chase.

Actually I can draw pretty good.

The article does not cite any actual evidence.  There is zero actual evidence showing Trump inherited $413 million from his father.  You are pretty gullible.   

Here is what you said:


Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.

Perhaps you are struggling to understand what you are saying, but this is clearly a reference to people trying to build wealth.  You just don't like how friggin stupid it sounds.  lol 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 15, 2025, 04:52:02 PM
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you realize how hard it is to get a PHD? lolol or a doctorate? its not a matter of work ethic, you have to be a certain level of intelligence.

You need a certain level of intelligence to manage finances but its not much. Finances management have way more to do with impulse control, concern for money etc.. then intelligence. I don't think you understand what intelligence is, what IQ is measuring. You are talking about things like being pragmatic, controlled, disciplined etc.. they correlate with intelligence very weakly. reasoning and spatial awareness appear to correlate to the highest degree.

The PHD is more intelligent, he may have poor impulse control, less access to resources, less support etc..

You are not talking about the same thing as me and this would explain the disconnect here.

And yes, less intelligent people support trump, have a lower education and have poor critical thinking skills. The man is an example of someone who is not that bright getting ahead. You think that he is intelligent which is hilarious. He is not, he is successful and is so because of factors not related to intelligence, charisma, charm, being a sociopath, starting with 400 million, industriousness etc.

A PHD in math is lightyears more intelligent then trump. The fact that you don't understand that tells me that you likely have never went to school or achieved a higher level of education. They can handle far more complex data and recognize patterns of far more complexity, have faster processing, far better memories etc. Do you have any gifted friends?

Liberals obtain higher education, that's a fact.  The higher up you go the smarter the person tends to be, it's been researched.

You are conflating various factors with intelligence.

Also, what would aspergers explain? it would be interesting to hear your perverted view of what that means or would mean.

Have you ever done any pschosocial educational assessments? none of the things you are stating are measure on IQ and various cognitive tests, none.
Your arrogance is humorous. There is absolutely no evidence to support your bullshit lies.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on October 15, 2025, 05:58:51 PM
Your arrogance is humorous. There is absolutely no evidence to support your bullshit lies.

Yes, and the alleged 413M is inflation adjusted.

So it's estimates of $ without any proof.

Did he get millions from his Dad?  Sure.

Did he conquer business, TV, and politics?

Yes.

People get themselves into a twist to discredit this guy at every turn.

It's really odd.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 15, 2025, 06:49:25 PM
Yes, and the alleged 413M is inflation adjusted.

So it's estimates of $ without any proof.

Did he get millions from his Dad?  Sure.

Did he conquer business, TV, and politics?

Yes.

People get themselves into a twist to discredit this guy at every turn.

It's really odd.
Trump will be written about for hundreds of years. His impact on society, liberals specifically, has been enormous. His MAGA movement has changed history.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: AbrahamG on October 15, 2025, 08:13:19 PM
Trump will be written about for hundreds of years. His impact on society, liberals specifically, has been enormous. His MAGA movement has changed history.

Is that what the MSM tells you to believe?   ;D
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on October 15, 2025, 08:19:45 PM
Is that what the MSM tells you to believe?   ;D

What do you want for Skubal?

Let's get this done now so we can concentrate on other stuff.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: AbrahamG on October 15, 2025, 08:27:58 PM
What do you want for Skubal?

Let's get this done now so we can concentrate on other stuff.

Top 3 prospect and a big league ready player.  We have to trade him.  Fans here are not happy with his wanting out after 6 innings, 99 pitches, 13 K's and having retired 14 or 15 in a row and throwing the last pitch at 101.  AJ is covering for him.  He wanted out.  Plus, he's not gonna sign anywhere until after the 26 season.  Cannot let him walk for nothing and sadly, ownership won't bring in the pieces this winter to be able to really go for it with Skubal one last time. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2025, 03:07:18 AM
Your arrogance is humorous. There is absolutely no evidence to support your bullshit lies.

What is arrogant about saying the truth?

It doesn't mean that the left is more intelligent, just that they achieve higher education on average than right leaning folks. There appears to be a tend of increasing liberalization from schooling as well, which could mean many things.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2025, 03:10:46 AM
Actually I can draw pretty good.

The article does not cite any actual evidence.  There is zero actual evidence showing Trump inherited $413 million from his father.  You are pretty gullible.   

Here is what you said:

Perhaps you are struggling to understand what you are saying, but this is clearly a reference to people trying to build wealth.  You just don't like how friggin stupid it sounds.  lol

you see building wealth and money hungry narcs as the same thing?

I invest yearly, I would love more money but I am not money hungry and greedy. You are conflating two different things. I am not confused at all, i did not say what you said I did and your post shows that, but somehow you are asserting that is what I meant and have accomplished a false equivalence.

So far you have engaged in multiple logical fallacies and debate tactics that are underhanded. Not a good look, not a good look at all.

I will let you off the hook if you want to stop trying to defend an indefensible position.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2025, 03:12:36 AM
Yes, and the alleged 413M is inflation adjusted.

So it's estimates of $ without any proof.

Did he get millions from his Dad?  Sure.

Did he conquer business, TV, and politics?

Yes.

People get themselves into a twist to discredit this guy at every turn.

It's really odd.

why are you so eager to protect a malignant narc who is openly corrupt and is causing misery for folks in your country? just look at how he fucked farmers twice now. Then he plans to use your money to bail them out, very socialist of him.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on October 16, 2025, 05:51:23 AM
why are you so eager to protect a malignant narc who is openly corrupt and is causing misery for folks in your country? just look at how he fucked farmers twice now. Then he plans to use your money to bail them out, very socialist of him.

I have said countless times I find myself defending this man more than I ever thought because of the amount of mis/disinformation posted about him.  They tried to remove him from office illegally, they tried to weaponize the court system against him, they tried to get him removed from ballots, then they tried to kill him.  All these things cannot happen again, regardless of what party is in office, and I hope the moves he's making ensure they don't.

Trump can't even get credit for brokering middle east peace, having the #1 TV show, or even having a hot wife - the media and the dumbass lefty sheep attack literally everything.

And he's not causing misery.  That's what you read on your biased social media feeds.  Our country is huge, so every single thing will not effect every single person the same.

Trump is making moves in his first year that will pay off in the subsequent years if the US shows growth.  The debt will lower, the economy will boom.  If there is not growth, the debt will increase.  So forgive me if I don't obsess over every little thing - I'll leave that to you.

I find it hilarious that someone from a country (supposedly) who elected Trudeau multiple times spends so much time criticizing our President.  Talk about a national embarrassment.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 16, 2025, 06:35:28 AM
What is arrogant about saying the truth?

It doesn't mean that the left is more intelligent, just that they achieve higher education on average than right leaning folks. There appears to be a tend of increasing liberalization from schooling as well, which could mean many things.
This is again, your arrogance showing through. You spouted off a bunch of your opinions and typed "fact" after, then claimed it's true while providing nothing to back up your claims. Cunt
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2025, 11:18:19 AM
I have said countless times I find myself defending this man more than I ever thought because of the amount of mis/disinformation posted about him.  They tried to remove him from office illegally, they tried to weaponize the court system against him, they tried to get him removed from ballots, then they tried to kill him.  All these things cannot happen again, regardless of what party is in office, and I hope the moves he's making ensure they don't.

Trump can't even get credit for brokering middle east peace, having the #1 TV show, or even having a hot wife - the media and the dumbass lefty sheep attack literally everything.

And he's not causing misery.  That's what you read on your biased social media feeds.  Our country is huge, so every single thing will not effect every single person the same.

Trump is making moves in his first year that will pay off in the subsequent years if the US shows growth.  The debt will lower, the economy will boom.  If there is not growth, the debt will increase.  So forgive me if I don't obsess over every little thing - I'll leave that to you.

I find it hilarious that someone from a country (supposedly) who elected Trudeau multiple times spends so much time criticizing our President.  Talk about a national embarrassment.

The debt will lower? lol the economy will boom? ok. Let's see.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2025, 11:20:28 AM
This is again, your arrogance showing through. You spouted off a bunch of your opinions and typed "fact" after, then claimed it's true while providing nothing to back up your claims. Cunt

The fact that you are unaware of the literature on the subject isn't my concern. It's simply a fact. Why that is, what that says about intelligence etc is debatable.

Are you able to follow along? or would you like me to break it down further? I can use some analogies if you like. You let me know where the hang up is and I'll fix it for you. No charge.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2025, 02:23:39 PM
you see building wealth and money hungry narcs as the same thing?

I invest yearly, I would love more money but I am not money hungry and greedy. You are conflating two different things. I am not confused at all, i did not say what you said I did and your post shows that, but somehow you are asserting that is what I meant and have accomplished a false equivalence.

So far you have engaged in multiple logical fallacies and debate tactics that are underhanded. Not a good look, not a good look at all.

I will let you off the hook if you want to stop trying to defend an indefensible position.

I think you are being disingenuous, but if you are making a distinction between people who try and build wealth and "money hungry narcs" (whatever that means) I'll accept that.   

This isn't a debate.  It's a discussion. 

There are numerous things you have said that are not factual, but let's continue to discuss Trump's so-called $410M inheritance.  What is the specific evidence that he inherited $410M from his father?   
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Grape Ape on October 16, 2025, 02:54:52 PM
The debt will lower? lol the economy will boom? ok. Let's see.

Why lol?

CBO changed their estimates for the debt from Trumps plans.  As I said earlier, he's betting bigly on growth to offset his cost.  If it hits, he wins.

If you're so sure, short our economy for 2026.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 16, 2025, 05:38:27 PM
The fact that you are unaware of the literature on the subject isn't my concern. It's simply a fact. Why that is, what that says about intelligence etc is debatable.

Are you able to follow along? or would you like me to break it down further? I can use some analogies if you like. You let me know where the hang up is and I'll fix it for you. No charge.
You're just plain wrong, fact. You made up a fake scenario about educated people, facts. Now you've convinced yourself you're right when everyone else sees you as a cunt, facts.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 05:52:40 PM
I interact with people from all walks of life all the time.  I can typically tell within a matter of minutes whether that person has higher education.  What you are unable to grasp is that higher education doesn't necessarily mean the person is intelligent. 

Here is one example.  Look at these clips of Katie Porter, who wants to be Governor of California.  She went to Yale undergad and Harvard law school.  She's an idiot. 

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Now compare her to Charlie Kirk, who was a high school graduate.  He would run circles around Katie Porter and was head and shoulders more intelligent than she is.

How do you typically determine within minutes that person has high education?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2025, 06:02:50 PM
How do you typically determine within minutes that person has high education?

By listening.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 06:17:24 PM
Listening to what?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2025, 06:20:55 PM
Listening to what?

 ???  Listening to what they say. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 06:26:41 PM
???  Listening to what they say.

About what? Do ask them trigger question? Or what they randomly say.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2025, 06:32:44 PM
About what? Do ask them trigger question? Or what they randomly say.

Just having a conversation.  I don't have "trigger questions," whatever that means. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 07:39:52 PM
Just having a conversation.  I don't have "trigger questions," whatever that means.

Well, I am having trouble understanding how you can know the education level of someone just by listening to them or by what they say? While it is true that some college educated people do have better language skills, this depends somewhat on their course of study.

Are you aware that Democrats are more likely to hold a college degree? Do you ask them if they are a Democrat or a Republican?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 16, 2025, 07:46:48 PM
Well, I am having trouble understanding how you can know the education level of someone just by listing to them or by what they say? While it is true that some college educated people do have better language skills, this depends somewhat on their course of study.

Are you aware that Democrats are more likely to hold a college degree? Do you ask them if they are a Democrat or a Republican?
Absolute horseshit. ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 07:51:39 PM
Absolute horseshit. ::)

Prove otherwise.  :)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 16, 2025, 08:10:58 PM
Prove otherwise.  :)
You made the statement, prove it, liar.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2025, 08:34:47 PM
Well, I am having trouble understanding how you can know the education level of someone just by listing to them or by what they say? While it is true that some college educated people do have better language skills, this depends somewhat on their course of study.

Are you aware that Democrats are more likely to hold a college degree? Do you ask them if they are a Democrat or a Republican?

I cannot help you with your lack of understanding.

I don't know and don't care what percentage of self-identified Democrats or Republicans have college degrees.  Why should that matter to me?

No I don't randomly ask people whether they are a Democrat or Republican.  Why would I do that? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: AbrahamG on October 16, 2025, 09:44:22 PM
Why lol?

CBO changed their estimates for the debt from Trumps plans.  As I said earlier, he's betting bigly on growth to offset his cost.  If it hits, he wins.

If you're so sure, short our economy for 2026.

Since being re-elected, has he made any personnel changes in the CBO? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 16, 2025, 11:49:55 PM
You made the statement, prove it, liar.

Thanks for asking for proof, I had no trouble finding several articles and polls all of which say Democrats are more likely to have a degree. I can see why instead of proving me wrong, you chose to throw the ball back in my court.

Demographic profiles of Trump and Harris voters in 2024
Trump voters were less racially and ethnically diverse, older and less likely to have a four-year college degree than Harris voters. And the sizable religious differences between those who voted for Republican and Democratic candidates persisted: Roughly eight-in-ten Trump voters (79%) identified as Christian, compared with about half (52%) of Harris.
PEW research center 2025

Check this link out, there is a lot more information regarding this issue:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024 (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024)



The College-Degree Divide Is Becoming a Chasm

By Declan Bradley November 6, 2024
Exit polls released by NBC News early Wednesday suggested a widening chasm between voters with a college degree and those without. Only 41 percent of college graduates voted Republican, compared to 54 percent of voters without a degree.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-college-degree-divide-is-becoming-a-chasm



Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 17, 2025, 12:12:46 AM
Thanks for asking for proof, I had no trouble finding several articles and polls all of which say Democrats are more likely to have a degree. I can see why instead of proving me wrong, you chose to throw the ball back in my court.

Demographic profiles of Trump and Harris voters in 2024
Trump voters were less racially and ethnically diverse, older and less likely to have a four-year college degree than Harris voters. And the sizable religious differences between those who voted for Republican and Democratic candidates persisted: Roughly eight-in-ten Trump voters (79%) identified as Christian, compared with about half (52%) of Harris.
PEW research center 2025

Check this link out, there is a lot more information regarding this issue:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024 (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024)



The College-Degree Divide Is Becoming a Chasm

By Declan Bradley November 6, 2024
Exit polls released by NBC News early Wednesday suggested a widening chasm between voters with a college degree and those without. Only 41 percent of college graduates voted Republican, compared to 54 percent of voters without a degree.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-college-degree-divide-is-becoming-a-chasm

TLDR
Does it also say Libturds are more likely to support/ sympathies
with Pedophiles.

And not condemn/ wish them dead.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 17, 2025, 12:32:55 AM
TLDR
Does it also say Libturds are more likely to support/ sympathies
with Pedophiles.

And not condemn/ wish them dead.

These completely irrelevant posts have degraded to point of absurdity. I thought you might want to know why I will no longer respond to these types of posts. Make an appointment with your mental health doctor. You need an intervention.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 03:20:11 AM
I think you are being disingenuous, but if you are making a distinction between people who try and build wealth and "money hungry narcs" (whatever that means) I'll accept that.   

This isn't a debate.  It's a discussion. 

There are numerous things you have said that are not factual, but let's continue to discuss Trump's so-called $410M inheritance.  What is the specific evidence that he inherited $410M from his father?   

building wealth at all costs as your sole mission in life and using underhanded tactics like fraud and deceit to do so is a problem. If greed causes you to steal from other people, for example, his meme coin and not paying workers for work and you have more than you could spend in several lifetimes while others humans starve, you are a blight to humanity.

You have yet to admit the fact that liberals obtain higher education than right win folks- are you willing to concede this, regardless of whatever you think I am trying to say this means.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: GymnJuice on October 17, 2025, 03:27:49 AM
building wealth at all costs as your sole mission in life and using underhanded tactics like fraud and deceit to do so is a problem. If greed causes you to steal from other people, for example, his meme coin and not paying workers for work and you have more than you could spend in several lifetimes while others humans starve, you are a blight to humanity.

You have yet to admit the fact that liberals obtain higher education than right win folks- are you willing to concede this, regardless of whatever you think I am trying to say this means.

Is there a breakdown by degree type? I wonder if you filtered by hard sciences versus sociology, art history, gender studies, etc, if the breakdown of 'liberal vs conservative' would be different. I think it would. I'd venture to guess that conservatives have higher education in engineering, math, biological sciences, and that liberals have higher education in sociology and art history and gender studies. I could be wrong. I haven't looked at that data.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 03:56:36 AM
Is there a breakdown by degree type? I wonder if you filtered by hard sciences versus sociology, art history, gender studies, etc, if the breakdown of 'liberal vs conservative' would be different. I think it would. I'd venture to guess that conservatives have higher education in engineering, math, biological sciences, and that liberals have higher education in sociology and art history and gender studies. I could be wrong. I haven't looked at that data.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/

it would probably make sense that liberals have more arts degrees- however, there appears to be no good data on STEM vs arts etc. but arts is where political degrees are made so it would make sense that if there are more liberals than they would obtain more arts and that while doing those degrees become more liberal.

It appears scientists hold more liberal views. I could see engineers and math having more conservative views but I am just guessing here but when things are more important than people (engineering vs doctors for example) its probably right leaning just based on ideological views.

There is nothing wrong with a political science degree, an english degree, psychology or other arts. Gender studies is wtf.

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 06:14:41 AM
Thanks for asking for proof, I had no trouble finding several articles and polls all of which say Democrats are more likely to have a degree. I can see why instead of proving me wrong, you chose to throw the ball back in my court.

Demographic profiles of Trump and Harris voters in 2024
Trump voters were less racially and ethnically diverse, older and less likely to have a four-year college degree than Harris voters. And the sizable religious differences between those who voted for Republican and Democratic candidates persisted: Roughly eight-in-ten Trump voters (79%) identified as Christian, compared with about half (52%) of Harris.
PEW research center 2025

Check this link out, there is a lot more information regarding this issue:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024 (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/demographic-profiles-of-trump-and-harris-voters-in-2024)



The College-Degree Divide Is Becoming a Chasm

By Declan Bradley November 6, 2024
Exit polls released by NBC News early Wednesday suggested a widening chasm between voters with a college degree and those without. Only 41 percent of college graduates voted Republican, compared to 54 percent of voters without a degree.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-college-degree-divide-is-becoming-a-chasm
Are you really going to make me pick those apart?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 17, 2025, 12:30:38 PM
These completely irrelevant posts have degraded to point of absurdity. I thought you might want to know why I will no longer respond to these types of posts. Make an appointment with your mental health doctor. You need an intervention.


My Mental heath Psychologist says I'm doing very well Thank you.


It's strange that you dodge & dive to not answer questions
about your Support for Pedophiles -  As stated previously
you've been called out / challenged about your stance pn
on Pedophiles on a good few occasions - Me I'd be mortified
if it were me - yet you carry on undaunted cosying up to
to them, never saying a bad word about them.

It is You who should seek urgent help.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 01:56:54 PM

My Mental heath Psychologist says I'm doing very well Thank you.


It's strange that you dodge & dive to not answer questions
about your Support for Pedophiles -  As stated previously
you've been called out / challenged about your stance pn
on Pedophiles on a good few occasions - Me I'd be mortified
if it were me - yet you carry on undaunted cosying up to
to them, never saying a bad word about them.

It is You who should seek urgent help.

It's always a sure sign when you have a mental health psychologist that you are mentally healthy. I go to the aids clinic weekly and my aids is fine they say!
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: deadz on October 17, 2025, 02:01:11 PM
It's always a sure sign when you have a mental health psychologist that you are mentally healthy. I go to the aids clinic weekly and my aids is fine they say!
Negro has AIDS, not surprised!
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 17, 2025, 02:01:51 PM
Are you really going to make me pick those apart?

I am not making you do anything you do not want to do.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 17, 2025, 02:03:48 PM
It's always a sure sign when you have a mental health psychologist that you are mentally healthy. I go to the aids clinic weekly and my aids is fine they say!


Good for you Pronoun Boy

Khvnt  Twat  Idiot  Queer Boy

Your AIDS maybe fine only your arsehole is totally worn out no doubt
Likely you're no longer anal retentive.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 17, 2025, 03:02:32 PM
I cannot help you with your lack of understanding.

I don't know and don't care what percentage of self-identified Democrats or Republicans have college degrees.  Why should that matter to me?

No I don't randomly ask people whether they are a Democrat or Republican.  Why would I do that?

Apparently, your amazing ability to recognize who does or does not hold a college degree within a few minutes of conversation with them matters enough to you that you felt the need to boast about this unique talent. You get credit for acknowledging that occasionally you cannot do this or that your assessment is incorrect.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 03:24:06 PM
It's always a sure sign when you have a mental health psychologist that you are mentally healthy. I go to the aids clinic weekly and my aids is fine they say!
Some mental health care professionals would claim that anyone seeing a mental health care professional is more mentally healthy than someone that is not seeing a mental health care professional. :)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 03:48:04 PM
Apparently, your amazing ability to recognize who does or does not hold a college degree within a few minutes of conversation with them matters enough to you that you felt the need to boast about this unique talent. You get credit for acknowledging that occasionally you cannot do this or that your assessment is incorrect.

Mentioning it isn't boasting.  You shouldn't feel insecure about this.  Not everyone has the same talents.  Don't feel bad because you are incapable of doing what I do or understanding what I do.  It doesn't make you any less of a person.

Now go give yourself a hug and eat some ice cream or something. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 03:50:05 PM
building wealth at all costs as your sole mission in life and using underhanded tactics like fraud and deceit to do so is a problem. If greed causes you to steal from other people, for example, his meme coin and not paying workers for work and you have more than you could spend in several lifetimes while others humans starve, you are a blight to humanity.

You have yet to admit the fact that liberals obtain higher education than right win folks- are you willing to concede this, regardless of whatever you think I am trying to say this means.

I never said anything about building wealth at all costs.  I simply mentioned building wealth.  You took that statement and expanded it to your own convoluted definition of building wealth. 

What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 17, 2025, 04:43:15 PM
Mentioning it isn't boasting.  You shouldn't feel insecure about this.  Not everyone has the same talents.  Don't feel bad because you are incapable of doing what I do or understanding what I do.  It doesn't make you any less of a person.

Now go give yourself a hug and eat some ice cream or something.

How condescending of you.

My questions had nothing to do with me feeling insecure about this, which I do not. Actually, I have no idea if I am capable or incapable of doing this because doing it never crossed my mind. What is there to understand? You originally posted what you do, and that was something to the effect that you are able to determine within a few minutes of conversation with them whether someone has a college degree.

This is an incredibly unique skill. So unique that before now no-one I met ever thought to mention it.

It is more likely that one can sometimes determine how intelligent another person is based on a conversation with them.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 04:48:38 PM
How condescending of you.

My questions had nothing to do with me feeling insecure about this, which I do not. Actually, I have no idea if I am capable or incapable of doing this because doing it never crossed my mind. What is there to understand? You originally posted what you do, and that was something to the effect that you are able to determine within a few minutes of conversation with them whether someone has a college degree.

This is an incredibly unique skill. So unique that before now no-one I met ever thought to mention it.

It is more likely that one can sometimes determine how intelligent another person is based on a conversation with them.

Your projection is pretty funny.   :) 

You live in a bubble so I don't expect you to have the kind of experiences with a cross-section of people like I do.  You shouldn't feel threatened by that.  It's not a good or bad thing.   
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 04:55:16 PM
I never said anything about building wealth at all costs.  I simply mentioned building wealth.  You took that statement and expanded it to your own convoluted definition of building wealth. 

What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father?


You do this a lot you use quite a lot of logical fallacies and misrepresent others positions. I brought up trump and crypto increasing his wealth

I then said

Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.

You equated or falsely conflated building wealth with money hungry power hungry actions which they are not. There is a difference say between doing your job as  doctor, earning you money and investing it, versus being absorbed by making money at all costs like rug pulling your supporters for there hard earned money when you are a billionaire. It's low iq high energy person stuff, dumb dumbs who haven't read a book in 10 years and live there whole like in the external world dictated by the symbolic register of life dictated by a superego that is programmed from jump street.

You frame the position as an either/or-- money hungry to you is building wealth. A simple analogy destroys this position, someone can be sexual but not sex hungry- having sex a few times a week versus being a philanderer. Having sex is good, like building wealth, being a philanderer is not, like being greedy.

I know you hold a simple view of life and think we were talking about aptitude tests a page back when we were not. I know you think you think I think that iq=higher education but all these little instances show is that you cannot maintain a tension of opposites and that you do not understand correlation vs causation.

There was no linear regression analysis done to rule out other variables for example.

It would be ideal if you could actually understand what I am saying, I would assume you are not attempting to and simply have a your position ready made- the opposite of what I say.

So I ask, after all that (also you copied my question to illuminati, so get your own stuff please) are you autistic? if so what level?

Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 04:59:30 PM

You do this a lot you use quite a lot of logical fallacies and misrepresent others positions. I brought up trump and crypto increasing his wealth

I then said

Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.

You equated or falsely conflated building wealth with money hungry power hungry actions which they are not. There is a difference say between doing your job as  doctor, earning you money and investing it, versus being absorbed by making money at all costs like rug pulling your supporters for there hard earned money when you are a billionaire. It's low iq high energy person stuff, dumb dumbs who haven't read a book in 10 years and live there whole like in the external world dictated by the symbolic register of life dictated by a superego that is programmed from jump street.

You frame the position as an either/or-- money hungry to you is building wealth. A simple analogy destroys this position, someone can be sexual but not sex hungry- having sex a few times a week versus being a philanderer. Having sex is good, like building wealth, being a philanderer is not, like being greedy.

I know you hold a simple view of life and think we were talking about aptitude tests a page back when we were not. I know you think you think I think that iq=higher education but all these little instances show is that you cannot maintain a tension of opposites and that you do not understand correlation vs causation.

There was no linear regression analysis done to rule out other variables for example.

It would be ideal if you could actually understand what I am saying, I would assume you are not attempting to and simply have a your position ready made- the opposite of what I say.

So I ask, after all that (also you copied my question to illuminati, so get your own stuff please) are you autistic? if so what level?

I understand you might be having trouble with this, but I'll ask again:  What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 05:02:19 PM
I understand you might be having trouble with this, but I'll ask again:  What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father?

I am simply doing what you are doing, ignoring salient points because you can't refute them or have been proven wrong so you continue to move the goalposts to desperately find something to stake a victory on.

Next logical fallacy

moving the goal posts. A tactic used to continually shift the topic of conversation so the other person can never "win" and feels like they are on the defensive. It's a underhanded tactic used by those who didn't go to liberal universities and stayed in the trailer park wearing trump was right about everything hats.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 05:31:23 PM
I understand you might be having trouble with this, but I'll ask again:  What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father?
He just posts what Lurker PM's him to say.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 05:31:48 PM
I am simply doing what you are doing, ignoring salient points because you can't refute them or have been proven wrong so you continue to move the goalposts to desperately find something to stake a victory on.

Next logical fallacy

moving the goal posts. A tactic used to continually shift the topic of conversation so the other person can never "win" and feels like they are on the defensive. It's a underhanded tactic used by those who didn't go to liberal universities and stayed in the trailer park wearing trump was right about everything hats.

So you are not honest enough to either point to the evidence or admit it doesn't really exist.  Got it.  Thank you for your cooperation. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 17, 2025, 05:32:07 PM
He just posts what Lurker PM's him to say.

That would explain a lot.  lol
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2025, 04:00:28 AM
So you are not honest enough to either point to the evidence or admit it doesn't really exist.  Got it.  Thank you for your cooperation.

flailing stuff right here.

there is more evidence for it then for jesus.

What kind of evidence are you looking for? regardless of what I post or give you will not accept it as you are vested in this theory that trump wasn't given a silver spoon.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2025, 04:01:16 AM
He just posts what Lurker PM's him to say.

Do you have brain damage?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 18, 2025, 05:14:38 AM
Hey Pronoun boy

Khvnt Twat Idiot Queer Boy


I am simply doing what you are doing, ignoring salient points because you can't refute them or have been proven wrong so you continue to move the goalposts to desperately find something to stake a victory on.

Next logical fallacy

moving the goal posts. A tactic used to continually shift the topic of conversation so the other person can never "win" and feels like they are on the defensive. It's a underhanded tactic used by those who didn't go to liberal universities and stayed in the trailer park wearing trump was right about everything hats.


he likely got a 413 million inheritance. If I put that into the fucking sandp I would have what he has. You never said what one of the wealthiest people means, so if you are saying billionaires is the criteria he would fit that criteria. I was thinking like top 100

Again he doubled his net worth. So it takes what 50 years to accrue that 60 million on the low end and 413 on the high end with connections via his dad etc to make 50% of his money which he then doubles via corruption in 9 months. He must be brilliant to double it in 9 months right? I mean it couldn't be opportunity, corruption, grifting etc he must of gotten 50% smarter! nah when you have money you make money, he was born with lots of it and lots of opportunity, it doesnt make him a genius, making money doesn't make anyone a genius.

Most really smart people aren't money hungry, power hungry narcs. It's kind of low iq high energy people stuff.


You posted he likely got 413$ million he inherited

I said it was 400 the article says 413 specifically


And here you say he got 400$ million

I understand you might be having trouble with this, but I'll ask again:  What is the specific evidence of Trump inheriting $400M from his father?

And this is your Pathetic reply below

I am simply doing what you are doing, ignoring salient points because you can't refute them or have been proven wrong so you continue to move the goalposts to desperately find something to stake a victory on.

Next logical fallacy

moving the goal posts. A tactic used to continually shift the topic of conversation so the other person can never "win" and feels like they are on the defensive. It's a underhanded tactic used by those who didn't go to liberal universities and stayed in the trailer park wearing trump was right about everything hats.


So why can't you back up what you posted / say ??
It is you who's trying desperately to 'muddy the water'
Change the goalposts / Divert away from answering
& backing up what you said.

Typical stupid ignorant Libturd Tactic.
Often deployed by your Bum Chum Prime Also.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2025, 09:00:35 AM
flailing stuff right here.

there is more evidence for it then for jesus.

What kind of evidence are you looking for? regardless of what I post or give you will not accept it as you are vested in this theory that trump wasn't given a silver spoon.

What is the specific evidence you relied on to conclude that Trump inherited $410M from his father?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 20, 2025, 04:19:21 PM
What is the specific evidence you relied on to conclude that Trump inherited $410M from his father?
These people try to tally up every penny Trumps parents gave him throughout his entire life and call it his inheritance. ::)
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 20, 2025, 04:33:18 PM
These people try to tally up every penny Trumps parents gave him throughout his entire life and call it his inheritance. ::)

The term for inheritance given before the death of the giver is known as an accelerated inheritance. It is actually not a bad idea if you can afford it. In Trump's situation it was likely "seed" money. Not that it makes any difference, but one might speculate about how financially successful Donald Trump would have been if he'd started from scratch. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is true in many cases. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2025, 11:06:54 PM
These people try to tally up every penny Trumps parents gave him throughout his entire life and call it his inheritance. ::)

It's pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2025, 11:08:55 PM
The term for inheritance given before the death of the giver is known as an accelerated inheritance. It is actually not a bad idea if you can afford it. In Trump's situation it was likely "seed" money. Not that it makes any difference, but one might speculate about how financially successful Donald Trump would have been if he'd started from scratch. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is true in many cases.

The vast majority of wealthy people in America did not inherit their wealth.  And it is incredibly rare for people who do inherit money to become billionaires.  What Trump did is remarkable.  People with TDS are incapable of admitting it, but what that man has accomplished is just brilliant. 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 21, 2025, 12:33:43 PM
The vast majority of wealthy people in America did not inherit their wealth.  And it is incredibly rare for people who do inherit money to become billionaires.  What Trump did is remarkable.  People with TDS are incapable of admitting it, but what that man has accomplished is just brilliant.

Who said the vast majority of wealthy people in America inherited their wealth? It may be rare for people who inherit money to become billionaires or not so rare, but it happens. In what ways is Trump remarkable? Accomplishing great wealth is not brilliant in and of itself.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2025, 01:38:40 PM
Who said the vast majority of wealthy people in America inherited their wealth? It may be rare for people who inherit money to become billionaires or not so rare, but it happens. In what ways is Trump remarkable? Accomplishing great wealth is not brilliant in and of itself.

You mentioned inheritance and then the rich getting richer.  I’m just pointing out that American wealth is typically not inherited.  It is earned.  By hard working people.

Yes it is rare for anyone to become a billionaire. 

How is Trump remarkable?  Seriously? 

Accomplishing great wealth by becoming one the greatest real estate developers in American history is brilliant. 

Having a successful TV show is remarkable.

Becoming one of the wealthiest persons on the planet is remarkable.

Getting elected POTUS, twice, with everything he faced, with zero political experience, is remarkable.

His outstanding performance as POTUS, with all of the adversity he faces, is remarkable. 

Raising bright, successful, well-adjusted kids while being in the limelight is remarkable.

And have you seen the man’s house?  And his wife? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 21, 2025, 01:48:17 PM
You mentioned inheritance and then the rich getting richer.  I’m just pointing out that American wealth is typically not inherited.  It is earned.  By hard working people.

Yes it is rare for anyone to become a billionaire. 

How is Trump remarkable?  Seriously? 

Accomplishing great wealth by becoming one the greatest real estate developers in American history is brilliant. 

Having a successful TV show is remarkable.

Becoming one of the wealthiest persons on the planet is remarkable.

Getting elected POTUS, twice, with everything he faced, with zero political experience, is remarkable.

His outstanding performance as POTUS, with all of the adversity he faces, is remarkable. 

Raising bright, successful, well-adjusted kids while being in the limelight is remarkable.

And have you seen the man’s house?  And his wife?


Prime will fastidiously do his best to ignore or play down those achievements  ::)
Honestly what a very sad & twisted individual he is.

Ask him how long Pedo Joe was a Politician or Khvntmala - Donald is doing a Far better
Job of being potus than all of the recent previous Politician Presidents- Go Donald 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 21, 2025, 02:11:10 PM
You mentioned inheritance and then the rich getting richer.  I’m just pointing out that American wealth is typically not inherited.  It is earned.  By hard working people.

Yes it is rare for anyone to become a billionaire. 

How is Trump remarkable?  Seriously? 

Accomplishing great wealth by becoming one the greatest real estate developers in American history is brilliant. 

Having a successful TV show is remarkable.

Becoming one of the wealthiest persons on the planet is remarkable.

Getting elected POTUS, twice, with everything he faced, with zero political experience, is remarkable.

His outstanding performance as POTUS, with all of the adversity he faces, is remarkable. 

Raising bright, successful, well-adjusted kids while being in the limelight is remarkable.

And have you seen the man’s house?  And his wife?

What some folks see as remarkable, much less brilliant, other folks do not. Trump appears to be successful. Like other celebrities, he will be remembered for both his successes and his failures. One can only hope he is contented at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2025, 02:18:28 PM
What some folks see as remarkable, much less brilliant, other folks do not. Trump appears to be successful. Like other celebrities, he will be remembered for both his successes and his failures. One can only hope he is contented at the end of the day.

There is nothing subjective about what I posted.  Those are objective facts.  The only people who think “Trump appears to be successful” are people with TDS.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 21, 2025, 02:35:27 PM
There is nothing subjective about what I posted.  Those are objective facts.  The only people who think “Trump appears to be successful” are people with TDS.

To say Trump appears to be successful is not saying he is not. Also, like I said, not everyone defines success in the same way.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 21, 2025, 03:09:46 PM
To say Trump appears to be successful is not saying he is not. Also, like I said, not everyone defines success in the same way.

How do you define success?

And for a President - was Pedo Joe a Success?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2025, 05:24:04 PM
To say Trump appears to be successful is not saying he is not. Also, like I said, not everyone defines success in the same way.

You're trying to be coy because you cannot bring yourself to say that Trump has been remarkably successful. 

I cannot stand Obama.  But the man is one of the most successful politicians in American history given his razor thin resume before being elected POTUS, twice.  I hate his policies and decisions.  But he is objectively remarkably successful. 

See how easy that is?
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 21, 2025, 06:15:02 PM
You're trying to be coy because you cannot bring yourself to say that Trump has been remarkably successful. 

I cannot stand Obama.  But the man is one of the most successful politicians in American history given his razor thin resume before being elected POTUS, twice.  I hate his policies and decisions.  But he is objectively remarkably successful. 

See how easy that is?


Yes its easy for you / us to say such things even when we dislike the said person
Only you're dealing with a TDS Libturd Leftist who is incapable of being Straight
Speaking & saying such things its not what his Feeble Fucked up Brain will allow, 
its all word salad evasive crap.

FFS any imbecile knows Donald is a very successful man in many different
Areas, Shows who incredibly fucked up the likes of Prime are when they can't
Admit / say it.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Primemuscle on October 21, 2025, 06:21:06 PM
You're trying to be coy because you cannot bring yourself to say that Trump has been remarkably successful. 

I cannot stand Obama.  But the man is one of the most successful politicians in American history given his razor thin resume before being elected POTUS, twice.  I hate his policies and decisions.  But he is objectively remarkably successful. 

See how easy that is?

Nobody is being coy. You and I just value success differently.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 21, 2025, 06:23:22 PM
Nobody is being coy. You and I just value success differently.


Pathetic weaselly reply   ::)

How do you value success ??
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: chaos on October 21, 2025, 06:23:38 PM
You're trying to be coy because you cannot bring yourself to say that Trump has been remarkably successful. 

This has easily become a Prime M/O in almost every thread.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: illuminati on October 21, 2025, 06:24:47 PM
This has easily become a Prime M/O in almost every thread.

Yep - Pathetic isnt he.
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2025, 07:14:25 PM
Nobody is being coy. You and I just value success differently.


Pathetic weaselly reply   ::)

How do you value success ??

I have the same question? 
Title: Re: Liberal Arrogance
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2025, 07:16:25 PM
This has easily become a Prime M/O in almost every thread.

It's just TDS.