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Srsly, where does that come from? ???
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GH? His hands and feet will have grown too. Results in the clown look if he gets clean some year in the future.
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GH? His hands and feet will have grown too. Results in the clown look if he gets clean some year in the future.
shut up ugly whore and fuck off from this forum
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It's a miracle!!
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Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
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Is he still known as the Miracle Bear?
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fuck he looks like he has aged 30 years in the past two year, the lil nazi bastard is gonna die before 40
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Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
Usually their jaws also grow, often leading to surgery for their teeth. Whatever it takes...
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Usually their jaws also grow, often leading to surgery for their teeth. Whatever it takes...
Haney and Flex wheeler had tooth gaps
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I've noticed how big his head has gotten when he poses it looks like it's going to explode
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
What would then happen if he'd be upping the dose to switch to Open like Markus Ruhl suggstend to him? ???
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Its a genetic response to GH. He has one huge head on him now, along with his nose. Very common for higher responders. Look at Jay, Phil, Kai etc. All have those GH noses (although Jays got more longer and sharper, Kai and Phil much wider.
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One well known guru said you could tell who responded to GH best by their nose and gave some pro examples. I don't know about what types of tissues are in the nose but they say GH will not alter bone, only soft tissue. So I don't know about tooth gaps or chin growth.
Someone like Haney like definitely didn't get a gap due to GH as that wasn't available in quantities used today. When the 192 Protropin came out a few pros would pay a ton for a once weekly 2iu shot or something like that. Today 20iu daily is standard, some experimenting with as much as 40-50iu. Tbombz did over 40iu.
His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
Yes the hands get bigger both with roids and GH but it's just temporary hand swelling. In fact you can often tell if someone is on PEDs by looking at the muscle between the thumb and the forefinger on top of the hand, does it look abnormally hypertrophied?
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Haney and Flex wheeler had tooth gaps
So did my ex mother in law.
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Is he still known as the Miracle Bear?
Not by me! LOL ;D
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Every morning in Germany, Urs wakes up to the smell of coffee…..all the way from Brazil! Woooooooooooooo
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Its a genetic response to GH. He has one huge head on him now, along with his nose. Very common for higher responders. Look at Jay, Phil, Kai etc. All have those GH noses (although Jays got more longer and sharper, Kai and Phil much wider.
Phil looked normal once.
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But then, towards the latter half of his career, his nose took on a grotesque tumor-like appearance. Huge, lumpy, and irregular.
The lesson of this story is: If you care about facial aesthetics, don't slam megadoses of GH.
Urs looks like he's stuck wearing a Green Goblin mask now, lmao
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Haney and Flex wheeler had tooth gaps
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One well known guru said you could tell who responded to GH best by their nose and gave some pro examples. I don't know about what types of tissues are in the nose but they say GH will not alter bone, only soft tissue. So I don't know about tooth gaps or chin growth.
Someone like Haney like definitely didn't get a gap due to GH as that wasn't available in quantities used today. When the 192 Protropin came out a few pros would pay a ton for a once weekly 2iu shot or something like that. Today 20iu daily is standard, some experimenting with as much as 40-50iu. Tbombz did over 40iu.
Yes the hands get bigger both with roids and GH but it's just temporary hand swelling. In fact you can often tell if someone is on PEDs by looking at the muscle between the thumb and the forefinger on top of the hand, does it look abnormally hypertrophied?
Cartilage is highly responsive to HGH so yes, megadosing growth can/will make the nose grow like a potato.
Some bones are also affected (thickening and widening): nasal bone, hands, feet, jaw, cranium, ribcage to a degree, and even clavicles (except in Heath's case)
Tooth gaps can happen due to extreme mandibular widening
Long bones are already fused , so no growth.
On the other hand, soft tissue swelling will indeed partially or completely subside after discontinuing gh administration (depending on severity and dosages)
Cartilage overgrowth and bone changes are...permanent
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His 15 minutes of fame are gonzo anyway.
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Ya, but imagine their breathing and smelling capabilities.
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Would a low dose (or equivalent such as a secretagogue) which keeps levels at those of someone in their early 20's still have a negative effect?
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Would a low dose (or equivalent such as a secretagogue) which keeps levels at those of someone in their early 20's still have a negative effect?
Depends on ones genes. Sure lifestyle will have an effect, but mostly it's our own gene code.
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One well known guru said you could tell who responded to GH best by their nose and gave some pro examples. I don't know about what types of tissues are in the nose but they say GH will not alter bone, only soft tissue. So I don't know about tooth gaps or chin growth.
Someone like Haney like definitely didn't get a gap due to GH as that wasn't available in quantities used today. When the 192 Protropin came out a few pros would pay a ton for a once weekly 2iu shot or something like that. Today 20iu daily is standard, some experimenting with as much as 40-50iu. Tbombz did over 40iu.
Yes the hands get bigger both with roids and GH but it's just temporary hand swelling. In fact you can often tell if someone is on PEDs by looking at the muscle between the thumb and the forefinger on top of the hand, does it look abnormally hypertrophied?
According to the vast majority of shittube bbs I watch they almost all say growths sweet spot is 6-8 ius at bedtime
And regarding his giant head its a pea head when you compare it to stankins ugly monstrosity
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Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
First time I shook Dorian's hand I really noticed just how thick his palms were... this pic of Krizo(?) shows what I mean
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Was DULLian a nice guy?
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Srsly, where does that come from? ???
Urs facial feature starting to look like a kangaroo sadly.
WooooSSHHHHHHHH
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Urs facial feature starting to look like a kangaroo sadly.
WooooSSHHHHHHHH
He's chasing the size baby
His freedom of choice
So.... dj approved
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But then, towards the latter half of his career, his nose took on a grotesque tumor-like appearance. Huge, lumpy, and irregular.
The lesson of this story is: If you care about facial aesthetics, don't slam megadoses of GH.
Urs looks like he's stuck wearing a Green Goblin mask now, lmao
but phil said it was his hard work and genetics that got him to look that way along with creating and protein powder
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First time I shook Dorian's hand I really noticed just how thick his palms were... this pic of Krizo(?) shows what I mean
Looks like a tumor.
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First time I shook Dorian's hand I really noticed just how thick his palms were... this pic of Krizo(?) shows what I mean
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=700439.0;attach=1569174;image)
All I see is a fantastic and literal depiction of “just the finishing touch”
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First time I shook Dorian's hand I really noticed just how thick his palms were... this pic of Krizo(?) shows what I mean
Watching some of those GH monsters bench crazy weights using the suicide grip use to give me anxiety, but after I saw this pic it's obvious the bar won't be slipping anywhere with those GH palms
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what a sport...
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Cartilage is highly responsive to HGH so yes, megadosing growth can/will make the nose grow like a potato.
Some bones are also affected (thickening and widening): nasal bone, hands, feet, jaw, cranium, ribcage to a degree, and even clavicles (except in Heath's case)
Tooth gaps can happen due to extreme mandibular widening
Long bones are already fused , so no growth.
On the other hand, soft tissue swelling will indeed partially or completely subside after discontinuing gh administration (depending on severity and dosages)
Cartilage overgrowth and bone changes are...permanent
Become more prone for obstructive sleep apnea? or less?
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Become more prone for obstructive sleep apnea? or less?
More prone.
Real life case: OSA is extremely common in accromegaly patients (central apnea has also been observed)
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Cartilage is highly responsive to HGH so yes, megadosing growth can/will make the nose grow like a potato.
Some bones are also affected (thickening and widening): nasal bone, hands, feet, jaw, cranium, ribcage to a degree, and even clavicles (except in Heath's case)
Tooth gaps can happen due to extreme mandibular widening
Long bones are already fused , so no growth.
On the other hand, soft tissue swelling will indeed partially or completely subside after discontinuing gh administration (depending on severity and dosages)
Cartilage overgrowth and bone changes are...permanent
Thanks. Some seem resistant to anything, like me (to steroids, most likely wouldn't respond unbelievably to GH either) they get neither swelling nor growth. Now that I think back a couple of decades, I remember a friend claiming he knew a dentist who had said she saw "many" bodybuilders coming in and needing braces due to GH. But that was when dosages were really low so I don't know. Second and third hand stories. Stories how that "Grorm" GH from cadavers was so potent it disfigured everyone, I think mostly baloney, again due to the low doses. Have you heard any Grorm stories, I think it was Russian? :D
Everyone always comments on how thick bodybuilders' hands feel when shaking them, always when the guy is on lots of GH and at his peak and seemingly growing fast. See Krizo's hand, good response LOL.
When some bikers stole a ton of Norditropin Simplexx from a Danish warehouse I read about a few top builders from there needing emergency wrist surgery LOL. I know one connected guy who used a whole 45iu vial a day for a short while. Some were from Denmark, some swiped off production lines by girlfriends. Lou Ferrigno looked unbelievable in 92-93 an he had that surgery too.
And oh yeah, I've mentioned several times an effect I noticed on a friend. He mostly used GH for preps due to cost but every time he dieted he grew a double chin LOL. It went away when the comp was over ??? :D
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Look at dat tricep :o
Back when their arms were bigger than their delts
Seems test and tren grow the delts more than the old school anabolics ie. Deca, primo, dbol winny
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Look at dat tricep :o
Back when their arms were bigger than their delts
Seems test and tren grow the delts more than the old school anabolics ie. Deca, primo, dbol winny
Not really IMO. It's more the overall increased dosages plus the constant pinning into side/rear delt to create more scar tissue size. Add the GH and insulin and you have the modern delt :D
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Not really IMO. It's more the overall increased dosages plus the constant pinning into side/rear delt to create more scar tissue size. Add the GH and insulin and you have the modern delt :D
Totally different sport. Ferrigno from back then wouldn't even get any looks at some random swimming pool or beach these days
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Was DULLian a nice guy?
Pretty serious and focused when I met him at the British GP - completely different character when you met him in a nightclub ;)
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Thanks. Some seem resistant to anything, like me (to steroids, most likely wouldn't respond unbelievably to GH either) they get neither swelling nor growth. Now that I think back a couple of decades, I remember a friend claiming he knew a dentist who had said she saw "many" bodybuilders coming in and needing braces due to GH. But that was when dosages were really low so I don't know. Second and third hand stories. Stories how that "Grorm" GH from cadavers was so potent it disfigured everyone, I think mostly baloney, again due to the low doses. Have you heard any Grorm stories, I think it was Russian? :D
Everyone always comments on how thick bodybuilders' hands feel when shaking them, always when the guy is on lots of GH and at his peak and seemingly growing fast. See Krizo's hand, good response LOL.
When some bikers stole a ton of Norditropin Simplexx from a Danish warehouse I read about a few top builders from there needing emergency wrist surgery LOL. I know one connected guy who used a whole 45iu vial a day for a short while. Some were from Denmark, some swiped off production lines by girlfriends. Lou Ferrigno looked unbelievable in 92-93 an he had that surgery too.
And oh yeah, I've mentioned several times an effect I noticed on a friend. He mostly used GH for preps due to cost but every time he dieted he grew a double chin LOL. It went away when the comp was over ??? :D
First GH I ever saw in the UK was early '90s - think it was 'Crescormin'? So facking expensive though
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Pretty serious and focused when I met him at the British GP - completely different character when you met him in a nightclub ;)
Alright
Thanks for the feedback
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Ferrigno from back then wouldn't even get any looks at some random swimming pool or beach these days
Society is more polite now. People don't stare at the differently-abled anymore.
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Totally different sport. Ferrigno from back then wouldn't even get any looks at some random swimming pool or beach these days
lmao, this is a retard-tier take if I've ever heard one.
Ferrigno is 6'5". What that physique at that stature, he'd get more attention than 5'8" Heath! (In fact, if the pool or beach is crowded enough, you might not even be able to see Heath. Which would be good, as he's grotesque, sort of like a gargoyle come to life.)
It's true that manlets, however muscular, are usually ignored or disdained.
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lmao, this is a retard-tier take if I've ever heard one.
Ferrigno is 6'5". What that physique at that stature, he'd get more attention than 5'8" Heath! (In fact, if the pool or beach is crowded enough, you might not even be able to see Heath. Which would be good, as he's grotesque, sort of like a gargoyle come to life.)
It's true that manlets, however muscular, are usually ignored or disdained.
Bahahahhahahhahahahhahha haah
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Louie didn’t syntholize his delts back then. What a pussy
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Look at dat tricep :o
Back when their arms were bigger than their delts
Seems test and tren grow the delts more than the old school anabolics ie. Deca, primo, dbol winny
This .
I love how today's bodybuilders (Wesley Vintage) claims training rear delts differently is the answer ...
yeah right' quit the drugs and see what goes away first
Wooossshhhhhhhhhhhhhh Vintage Genetics my ass
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First GH I ever saw in the UK was early '90s - think it was 'Crescormin'? So facking expensive though
Yes. Couldn't find on google whether Grorm was a real product. Edit: just found this reference on google GRORM; Serono, Madrid, Spain
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I know one guy who used cadaver GH just a couple of decades ago, I want to say it was from some Baltic country.
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Yes. Couldn't find on google whether Grorm was a real product. Edit: just found this reference on google GRORM; Serono, Madrid, Spain
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I know one guy who used cadaver GH just a couple of decades ago, I want to say it was from some Baltic country.
Grorm was a very old cadaver GH used mainly in Spain and Italy. The name was registered in 1973, last seen around 89 or so. Around 96, there was a story that the Russian mob lucked into a ton of expired Grorm that they were getting rid of dirt cheap. There were warnings in US mags not to by it.
Some older GH names from a 1994 medical directory -
S Asellacrin, Bio-Tropin, CB 311, Crescormon, Eutropin, Genotonorm, Genotropin, Grorm, Growth hormone (human), HGH, Homatrope, Humatrope, LY 137998, Maxomat, Nanormon, Nordit-Pens, Norditropin, Saizen, SM 8144, Somatohorm, Somatotrophine, Somatotropin (human), Somatropin**, Sopin, STH, Umatrope, Wachstumshormon (menschliches)
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Found this guy from the 80s
Holy shit
That looks like a legit 28-29 inch waist
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Grorm was a very old cadaver GH used mainly in Spain and Italy. The name was registered in 1973, last seen around 89 or so. Around 96, there was a story that the Russian mob lucked into a ton of expired Grorm that they were getting rid of dirt cheap. There were warnings in US mags not to by it.
Some older GH names from a 1994 medical directory -
Thanks a bunch, appeciate it :)
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Everyone always comments on how thick bodybuilders' hands feel when shaking them, always when the guy is on lots of GH and at his peak and seemingly growing fast. See Krizo's hand, good response LOL.
An interesting piece of anthropometric data and clinical evidence (Royalty is gonna love this): The Smaev feller has:
- 27cm wrists ( 10.6 inches)
-35cm closed fist circumference (13.7 inches)
- Index finger circumference: 10cm (4 inches)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nh4MBdsx/20250819-221541.jpg)
His IGF-1 levels (somatomedin C) were recently measured at 824 nmol/L or 6303 ng/mL
Test levels were 52 nmol/L or 1500 ng/dL - the lab's maximum measurable limit. The actual value most likely exceeded that.
Smaev said he never did more than 2g of gear per week.
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I liked it.
Some apparently don't get that much IGF-1 elevation from GH but they still
feel it has major positive effects. I'm sure GH has effects other than
via increasing IGF-1. But since GH in the bloodstream is fleeting they use the more stable IGF-1 proxy. Bodybuilders find IGF-1 follows calorie intake a lot, higher cals, higher IGF-1. From what I gather insulin may be one reason. The different insulin analogues used by diabetics have slightly different IGF-1 boosting capabilities, last I looked the 24h Lantus was most potent in this respect. I'm not edumacating you mops, just writing some thoughts in case some oddball might be mildly interested or if by chance an actual expert comes along to educate me (fat chance here) :D
Personal recent experience: since I was down another 3kg in weight after my hospital sign-out I got some insulins to try to change the trend. Since Sunday I take 20iu Lantus in the morning and did a 5iu shot of Novorapid with a small meal. Went hypo 90 minutes after. Next day 8iu preworkout and had about 140g carbs, vision went blurry on the way home after gym. Today I got some maltodextrin and palatinose, took 12iu and drank about 120 grams of a combo of those and needed another 70 grams about 70 minutes after. When I was heavy I could do 20iu of Novorapid and often nothing happened even if I didn't eat, a bad sign wrt sensitivity.
Result in 2-3 days BW up 4kg.
I think I wrote this on another thread but at one gym there's 2 bros who train together, identical. One has diabetes and has about 25lbs more muscle which is an interesting observation imo 8)
The case with tren regarding IGF-1 is that it appears to lower the levels, yet research says it increases intracellular IGF-1. Some propose the tren somehow mops up the bloodstream of IGF-1, puts it in the muscle and enhances its action ;)
I remember IFBB pro Hernon saying you shouldn't want your IGF-1 over 200 (I think it was) so as not to encourage cancers ::) :D
If someone doesn't eat dairy I think a glass of milk a day may boost IGF-1 by over 20%. Beware.
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Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.
This is true of most pro BBers. I once shook hands with flex wheeler, Vince Taylor plus a few other famous IFBB pros, the palms of all their hands were all like inflated balloons! It must be a side effect of all the GH, insulin, AAS etc
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Yes. Couldn't find on google whether Grorm was a real product. Edit: just found this reference on google GRORM; Serono, Madrid, Spain
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I know one guy who used cadaver GH just a couple of decades ago, I want to say it was from some Baltic country.
I thought it was Bulgaria, but you're probably right. The best connection I ever had was a powerlifter that did some security work for UN peacekeepers. He came back from Europe and Asia without any customs checks with fucking cases of stuff like that, and Organon Sustanon vials, Primobolan redi-jects, all sorts. He said they were for starving children, but who knows...
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I thought it was Bulgaria, but you're probably right. The best connection I ever had was a powerlifter that did some security work for UN peacekeepers. He came back from Europe and Asia without any customs checks with fucking cases of stuff like that, and Organon Sustanon vials, Primobolan redi-jects, all sorts. He said they were for starving children, but who knows...
Problem back then was that availability on specific items was spotty to say the least, you bought what was in the gym bag at that particular time. Today everything is available, good quality too if you do your "research." Can get pharma brands as well if one insists and willing to pay premium. Today unlabeled China UG GH is better quality than pharma brands. Back then I bought Zambon 50mg Winstrol from Spain, today you can get 100mg micronized winny that's less painful for example. Zambon was and is quality but they cost relatively a lot. If I had domestic access to powder steroids that would be a dream and would cost pennies.
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I liked it.
Some apparently don't get that much IGF-1 elevation from GH but they still
feel it has major positive effects. I'm sure GH has effects other than
via increasing IGF-1. But since GH in the bloodstream is fleeting they use the more stable IGF-1 proxy. Bodybuilders find IGF-1 follows calorie intake a lot, higher cals, higher IGF-1. From what I gather insulin may be one reason. The different insulin analogues used by diabetics have slightly different IGF-1 boosting capabilities, last I looked the 24h Lantus was most potent in this respect. I'm not edumacating you mops, just writing some thoughts in case some oddball might be mildly interested or if by chance an actual expert comes along to educate me (fat chance here) :D
Personal recent experience: since I was down another 3kg in weight after my hospital sign-out I got some insulins to try to change the trend. Since Sunday I take 20iu Lantus in the morning and did a 5iu shot of Novorapid with a small meal. Went hypo 90 minutes after. Next day 8iu preworkout and had about 140g carbs, vision went blurry on the way home after gym. Today I got some maltodextrin and palatinose, took 12iu and drank about 120 grams of a combo of those and needed another 70 grams about 70 minutes after. When I was heavy I could do 20iu of Novorapid and often nothing happened even if I didn't eat, a bad sign wrt sensitivity.
Result in 2-3 days BW up 4kg.
I think I wrote this on another thread but at one gym there's 2 bros who train together, identical. One has diabetes and has about 25lbs more muscle which is an interesting observation imo 8)
The case with tren regarding IGF-1 is that it appears to lower the levels, yet research says it increases intracellular IGF-1. Some propose the tren somehow mops up the bloodstream of IGF-1, puts it in the muscle and enhances its action ;)
I remember IFBB pro Hernon saying you shouldn't want your IGF-1 over 200 (I think it was) so as not to encourage cancers ::) :D
If someone doesn't eat dairy I think a glass of milk a day may boost IGF-1 by over 20%. Beware.
Few questions if I may:
What's the logic of Lantus in the AM as opposed to last thing at night?
What do you consider as 'hypo' levels?
Do you use a finger-prick test to check your levels?
Have you considered a Libre or Dexcom?
How do you arrive at the dosage for Novorapid? What carb ratio do you use?
Sorry if this is too nosy!! Got a couple of diabetics in the family so interested - thanks
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Few questions if I may:
What's the logic of Lantus in the AM as opposed to last thing at night?
What do you consider as 'hypo' levels?
Do you use a finger-prick test to check your levels?
Have you considered a Libre or Dexcom?
How do you arrive at the dosage for Novorapid? What carb ratio do you use?
Sorry if this is too nosy!! Got a couple of diabetics in the family so interested - thanks
Lantus can be taken at night as well, little difference, I know some diabetics are instructed to split AM and PM but "science" says it doesn't matter. There now also the Toujeo long acting one which is the same analogue as Lantus but since it's more concentrated it lasts I think 36 hours. Bodybuilders feel Lantus is weaker the last 12 hours. Some "gurus" advovate just 10iu of Lantus even in beginners for food efficiency, taking stress of the pancreas (LOL), better IGF-1 levels and so on. Some bigger bodybuilders use 100iu daily periodically, some just once a week to top out glycogen while minimizing risk of insulin resistance. Some like the Oxygen athletes were rumored to have cycled up to 300 Lantus a day. Over time high dose Lantus will be very unhealthy I think, just fine for short periods. I have tried around 50iu once or twice. You will feel "pumped" all day, that's the overall consensus.
I don't have a glucometer. The problem with a glucometer is that you have to 'know how to use one', to interpret the reading for it to have much utility for the average dumbo bb. They take it once and get a reading but now what, is the glucose going up or down? You could have one on hand to ensure safety but in reasonable doses the risk of real harm is low, don't know one single case personally and haven't really even seen one on the PED forums. I know I'm in trouble territory when I start sweating, pulse is up, extreme craving for sugar but also everything else LOL, and I start to get these migraine type halos where I can't see. Corrected with sugar within 5-10 minutes every time.
On dosing, I go by the idea that you'd logically want higher than normal physiological levels for going 'beyond' what you could get from food. So for example I hear that Milos usually says 25iu of Humalog both before and after. I very much doubt they use a glucometer, probably go by feel like I do. Sensitivity can change from day to day so you can't say exactly how many carbs you 'need' that day. Now my sensitivity appears very high and glycogen is low so I've tried lower doses with liberal carbs. If GH is in you can 'tolerate' more insulin, in my case I use MK-677 a lot which also makes insulin weaker. I used to take maybe 25iu of Novorapid or Humalog preworkout, perhaps took a lot of insulin the days before gym PRs while trying to top out glycogen and body water, that kind of thing.
Now I'll do 20iu of Lantus once a day and play with a little rapid insulin around workouts while forcing down liquid carbs. Body has changed pretty rapidly in just hours with just a few shots, and OF COURSE it's just water but it's interesting to see. I have ordered MK but if I'd had it I could've inflated by 25lbs in a week if I'd wanted to :D
Lots of rambling undisciplined text here LOL. But what do you think of my approach? :D
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Found this guy from the 80s
Holy shit
That looks like a legit 28-29 inch waist
I knew him,still looks good fit ,smaller,he had sick build 90s,nice guy ,guiet,trained hard
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I knew him,still looks good fit ,smaller,he had sick build 90s,nice guy ,guiet,trained hard
Cool😎😎😎
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This .
I love how today's bodybuilders (Wesley Vintage) claims training rear delts differently is the answer ...
yeah right' quit the drugs and see what goes away first
Wooossshhhhhhhhhhhhhh Vintage Genetics my ass
Vintage Genetics and Vintage Gear is a good combination
(https://i0.wp.com/www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Wesley-Vissers-bodybuilding-secret-for-Arnold-like-biceps.jpg?quality=86&strip=all)
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Vintage Genetics and Vintage Gear is a good combination
(https://i0.wp.com/www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Wesley-Vissers-bodybuilding-secret-for-Arnold-like-biceps.jpg?quality=86&strip=all)
He is a nice guy but not good looking
His wife...... :-X
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Lantus can be taken at night as well, little difference, I know some diabetics are instructed to split AM and PM but "science" says it doesn't matter. There now also the Toujeo long acting one which is the same analogue as Lantus but since it's more concentrated it lasts I think 36 hours. Bodybuilders feel Lantus is weaker the last 12 hours. Some "gurus" advovate just 10iu of Lantus even in beginners for food efficiency, taking stress of the pancreas (LOL), better IGF-1 levels and so on. Some bigger bodybuilders use 100iu daily periodically, some just once a week to top out glycogen while minimizing risk of insulin resistance. Some like the Oxygen athletes were rumored to have cycled up to 300 Lantus a day. Over time high dose Lantus will be very unhealthy I think, just fine for short periods. I have tried around 50iu once or twice. You will feel "pumped" all day, that's the overall consensus.
I don't have a glucometer. The problem with a glucometer is that you have to 'know how to use one', to interpret the reading for it to have much utility for the average dumbo bb. They take it once and get a reading but now what, is the glucose going up or down? You could have one on hand to ensure safety but in reasonable doses the risk of real harm is low, don't know one single case personally and haven't really even seen one on the PED forums. I know I'm in trouble territory when I start sweating, pulse is up, extreme craving for sugar but also everything else LOL, and I start to get these migraine type halos where I can't see. Corrected with sugar within 5-10 minutes every time.
On dosing, I go by the idea that you'd logically want higher than normal physiological levels for going 'beyond' what you could get from food. So for example I hear that Milos usually says 25iu of Humalog both before and after. I very much doubt they use a glucometer, probably go by feel like I do. Sensitivity can change from day to day so you can't say exactly how many carbs you 'need' that day. Now my sensitivity appears very high and glycogen is low so I've tried lower doses with liberal carbs. If GH is in you can 'tolerate' more insulin, in my case I use MK-677 a lot which also makes insulin weaker. I used to take maybe 25iu of Novorapid or Humalog preworkout, perhaps took a lot of insulin the days before gym PRs while trying to top out glycogen and body water, that kind of thing.
Now I'll do 20iu of Lantus once a day and play with a little rapid insulin around workouts while forcing down liquid carbs. Body has changed pretty rapidly in just hours with just a few shots, and OF COURSE it's just water but it's interesting to see. I have ordered MK but if I'd had it I could've inflated by 25lbs in a week if I'd wanted to :D
Lots of rambling undisciplined text here LOL. But what do you think of my approach? :D
I honestly don't understand the use of this for BB purposes so my questions probably didn't make sense - so people are basically just feeling their levels? Scary business if it happens when you're asleep my dude (pass the glucagon!)
And I get the point about finger pricks being a single point in time so which way are you going - but the Dexcom has a little PDM device that shows arrows up or down, and it's all recorded on a website called Glooko so you can really see rhythms etc. And you just tell it how many carbs you're about to eat and it tells the insulin pump the dosage - no more pinning!
In the UK this tech is provided by the NHS so it might be too costly for the average trainer, but I'm mildly surprised that a pseudo-scientist like Milos hasn't taken a look at this system as it's quite fascinating being able to see stuff down to the hours and minutes...
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He is a nice guy but not good looking
His wife...... :-X
You’re right, they are not an Adonis like you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4LgnJh5/IMG-0149.jpg)
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Found this guy from the 80s
Holy shit
That looks like a legit 28-29 inch waist
Casey Kucharyk shits all over Urs.
(https://musclememory.com/magCovers/md/md2304.jpg)
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WTF, does his own mother still recognize the guy? He looks like a completely different person compared to just a few years ago... :D