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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2025, 06:49:58 AM »
Found this guy from the 80s

Holy shit

That looks like a legit 28-29 inch waist

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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2025, 08:32:13 AM »
Grorm was a very old cadaver GH used mainly in Spain and Italy. The name was registered in 1973, last seen around 89 or so. Around 96, there was a story that the Russian mob lucked into a ton of expired Grorm that they were getting rid of dirt cheap. There were warnings in US mags not to by it.

Some older GH names from a 1994 medical directory -


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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2025, 01:46:16 PM »

Everyone always comments on how thick bodybuilders' hands feel when shaking them, always when the guy is on lots of GH and at his peak and seemingly growing fast. See Krizo's hand, good response LOL.


An interesting piece of anthropometric data and clinical evidence (Royalty is gonna love this): The Smaev feller has:

- 27cm wrists ( 10.6 inches)
-35cm closed fist circumference (13.7 inches)
- Index finger circumference: 10cm (4 inches)



His IGF-1 levels (somatomedin C) were recently measured at 824 nmol/L or 6303 ng/mL

Test levels were 52 nmol/L or 1500 ng/dL - the lab's maximum measurable limit. The actual value most likely exceeded that.

Smaev said he never did more than 2g of gear per week.





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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2025, 02:07:01 PM »
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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2025, 03:18:18 PM »

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I liked it.

Some apparently don't get that much IGF-1 elevation from GH but they still
feel it has major positive effects. I'm sure GH has effects other than
via increasing IGF-1. But since GH in the bloodstream is fleeting they use the more stable IGF-1 proxy. Bodybuilders find IGF-1 follows calorie intake a lot, higher cals, higher IGF-1. From what I gather insulin may be one reason. The different insulin analogues used by diabetics have slightly different IGF-1 boosting capabilities, last I looked the 24h Lantus was most potent in this respect. I'm not edumacating you mops, just writing some thoughts in case some oddball might be mildly interested or if by chance an actual expert comes along to educate me (fat chance here) :D
Personal recent experience: since I was down another 3kg in weight after my hospital sign-out I got some insulins to try to change the trend. Since Sunday I take 20iu Lantus in the morning and did a 5iu shot of Novorapid with a small meal. Went hypo 90 minutes after. Next day 8iu preworkout and had about 140g carbs, vision went blurry on the way home after gym. Today I got some maltodextrin and palatinose, took 12iu and drank about 120 grams of a combo of those and needed another 70 grams about 70 minutes after. When I was heavy I could do 20iu of Novorapid and often nothing happened even if I didn't eat, a bad sign wrt sensitivity.
Result in 2-3 days BW up 4kg.
I think I wrote this on another thread but at one gym there's  2 bros who train together, identical. One has diabetes and has about 25lbs more muscle which is an interesting observation imo 8)

The case with tren regarding IGF-1 is that it appears to lower the levels, yet research says it increases intracellular IGF-1. Some propose the tren somehow mops up the bloodstream of IGF-1, puts it in the muscle and enhances its action ;)

I remember IFBB pro Hernon saying you shouldn't want your IGF-1 over 200 (I think it was) so as not to encourage cancers ::) :D

If someone doesn't eat dairy I think a glass of milk a day may boost IGF-1 by over 20%. Beware.

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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2025, 03:20:08 AM »
Tons of GH for him. It’s changed him completely, his whole head is bigger. His chin and nose are much bigger as well . And his eyes look sunk back in his head with head and facial growth. His hands look weird now too. Someone on IG said they met him and said his hand felt twice as big as his.

This is true of most pro BBers. I once shook hands with flex wheeler, Vince Taylor plus a few other famous IFBB pros, the palms of all their hands were all like inflated balloons! It must be a side effect of all the GH, insulin, AAS etc

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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2025, 02:48:26 PM »
Yes. Couldn't find on google whether Grorm was a real product. Edit: just found this reference on google GRORM; Serono, Madrid, Spain
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I know one guy who used cadaver GH just a couple of decades ago, I want to say it was from some Baltic country.

I thought it was Bulgaria, but you're probably right.  The best connection I ever had was a powerlifter that did some security work for UN peacekeepers.  He came back from Europe and Asia without any customs checks with fucking cases of stuff like that, and Organon Sustanon vials, Primobolan redi-jects, all sorts.  He said they were for starving children, but who knows...
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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2025, 02:53:24 PM »
I thought it was Bulgaria, but you're probably right.  The best connection I ever had was a powerlifter that did some security work for UN peacekeepers.  He came back from Europe and Asia without any customs checks with fucking cases of stuff like that, and Organon Sustanon vials, Primobolan redi-jects, all sorts.  He said they were for starving children, but who knows...

Problem back then was that availability on specific items was spotty to say the least, you bought what was in the gym bag at that particular time. Today everything is available, good quality too if you do your "research." Can get pharma brands as well if one insists and willing to pay premium. Today unlabeled China UG GH is better quality than pharma brands. Back then I bought Zambon 50mg Winstrol from Spain, today you can get 100mg micronized winny that's less painful for example. Zambon was and is quality but they cost relatively a lot. If I had domestic access to powder steroids that would be a dream and would cost pennies.

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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2025, 02:54:57 PM »
I liked it.

Some apparently don't get that much IGF-1 elevation from GH but they still
feel it has major positive effects. I'm sure GH has effects other than
via increasing IGF-1. But since GH in the bloodstream is fleeting they use the more stable IGF-1 proxy. Bodybuilders find IGF-1 follows calorie intake a lot, higher cals, higher IGF-1. From what I gather insulin may be one reason. The different insulin analogues used by diabetics have slightly different IGF-1 boosting capabilities, last I looked the 24h Lantus was most potent in this respect. I'm not edumacating you mops, just writing some thoughts in case some oddball might be mildly interested or if by chance an actual expert comes along to educate me (fat chance here) :D
Personal recent experience: since I was down another 3kg in weight after my hospital sign-out I got some insulins to try to change the trend. Since Sunday I take 20iu Lantus in the morning and did a 5iu shot of Novorapid with a small meal. Went hypo 90 minutes after. Next day 8iu preworkout and had about 140g carbs, vision went blurry on the way home after gym. Today I got some maltodextrin and palatinose, took 12iu and drank about 120 grams of a combo of those and needed another 70 grams about 70 minutes after. When I was heavy I could do 20iu of Novorapid and often nothing happened even if I didn't eat, a bad sign wrt sensitivity.
Result in 2-3 days BW up 4kg.
I think I wrote this on another thread but at one gym there's  2 bros who train together, identical. One has diabetes and has about 25lbs more muscle which is an interesting observation imo 8)

The case with tren regarding IGF-1 is that it appears to lower the levels, yet research says it increases intracellular IGF-1. Some propose the tren somehow mops up the bloodstream of IGF-1, puts it in the muscle and enhances its action ;)

I remember IFBB pro Hernon saying you shouldn't want your IGF-1 over 200 (I think it was) so as not to encourage cancers ::) :D

If someone doesn't eat dairy I think a glass of milk a day may boost IGF-1 by over 20%. Beware.

Few questions if I may:

What's the logic of Lantus in the AM as opposed to last thing at night?
What do you consider as 'hypo' levels?
Do you use a finger-prick test to check your levels?
Have you considered a Libre or Dexcom?
How do you arrive at the dosage for Novorapid?  What carb ratio do you use?

Sorry if this is too nosy!! Got a couple of diabetics in the family so interested - thanks
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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2025, 03:16:49 PM »
Few questions if I may:

What's the logic of Lantus in the AM as opposed to last thing at night?
What do you consider as 'hypo' levels?
Do you use a finger-prick test to check your levels?
Have you considered a Libre or Dexcom?
How do you arrive at the dosage for Novorapid?  What carb ratio do you use?

Sorry if this is too nosy!! Got a couple of diabetics in the family so interested - thanks

Lantus can be taken at night as well, little difference, I know some diabetics are instructed to split AM and PM but "science" says it doesn't matter. There now also the Toujeo long acting one which is the same analogue as Lantus but since it's more concentrated it lasts I think 36 hours. Bodybuilders feel Lantus is weaker the last 12 hours. Some "gurus" advovate just 10iu of Lantus even in beginners for food efficiency, taking stress of the pancreas (LOL), better IGF-1 levels and so on. Some bigger bodybuilders use 100iu daily periodically, some just once a week to top out glycogen while minimizing risk of insulin resistance. Some like the Oxygen athletes were rumored to have cycled up to 300 Lantus a day. Over time high dose Lantus will be very unhealthy I think, just fine for short periods. I have tried around 50iu once or twice. You will feel "pumped" all day, that's the overall consensus.

I don't have a glucometer. The problem with a glucometer is that you have to 'know how to use one', to interpret the reading for it to have much utility for the average dumbo bb. They take it once and get a reading but now what, is the glucose going up or down? You could have one on hand to ensure safety but in reasonable doses the risk of real harm is low, don't know one single case personally and haven't really even seen one on the PED forums. I know I'm in trouble territory when I start sweating, pulse is up, extreme craving for sugar but also everything else LOL, and I start to get these migraine type halos where I can't see. Corrected with sugar within 5-10 minutes every time.

On dosing, I go by the idea that you'd logically want higher than normal physiological levels for going 'beyond' what you could get from food. So for example I hear that Milos usually says 25iu of Humalog both before and after. I very much doubt they use a glucometer, probably go by feel like I do. Sensitivity can change from day to day so you can't say exactly how many carbs you 'need' that day. Now my sensitivity appears very high and glycogen is low so I've tried lower doses with liberal carbs. If GH is in you can 'tolerate' more insulin, in my case I use MK-677 a lot which also makes insulin weaker. I used to take maybe 25iu of Novorapid or Humalog preworkout, perhaps took a lot of insulin the days before gym PRs while trying to top out glycogen and body water, that kind of thing.

Now I'll do 20iu of Lantus once a day and play with a little rapid insulin around workouts while forcing down liquid carbs. Body has changed pretty rapidly in just hours with just a few shots, and OF COURSE it's just water but it's interesting to see. I have ordered MK but if I'd had it I could've inflated by 25lbs in a week if I'd wanted to :D

Lots of rambling undisciplined text here LOL. But what do you think of my approach? :D

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Re: Has Urs' nose grown in the past couple of years ??
« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2025, 06:57:49 PM »
Found this guy from the 80s

Holy shit

That looks like a legit 28-29 inch waist
I knew him,still looks good fit ,smaller,he had sick build 90s,nice guy ,guiet,trained hard