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Title: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 22, 2025, 07:11:18 PM
Initially I was thrilled as it is over double of what it was 5 years ago. My efforts to restore my body through quitting booze and juice have been fruitful. But while it has doubled, which is great, I wonder if it's still considered low by getbig standards (the only standards that are actually worth a damn)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: AbrahamG on August 22, 2025, 07:52:11 PM
Initially I was thrilled as it is over double of what it was 5 years ago. My efforts to restore my body through quitting booze and juice have been fruitful. But while it has doubled, which is great, I wonder if it's still considered low by getbig standards (the only standards that are actually worth a damn)

It's good.  Could be very good depending ones age.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Lartinos on August 22, 2025, 07:56:05 PM
900 natural? Pretty dumb question TBH.

Testosterone alone isn’t a great indicator of health or fertility.

Lots of guys have test that high and their FSH, LH, and/or their E2 etc are way high too.

Mine is 640 with ideal other stats..

Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: tacobender on August 22, 2025, 10:16:57 PM
Jack off more often 5 to 6 times a day it’ll help raise it in fact, I recommend it after every meal and snack you can even add that creamer yogurt to your coffee for protein
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: BigRo on August 22, 2025, 10:51:15 PM
Jack off more often 5 to 6 times a day it’ll help raise it in fact, I recommend it after every meal and snack you can even add that creamer yogurt to your coffee for protein

Incel.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 22, 2025, 11:16:19 PM
It's good.  Could be very good depending ones age.
I feel like I dodged a bullet bigtime. It was extremely low for a few years, took many years of being very fussy about my lifestyle and patience to get back into this range. I was already happy 5 years ago that it got back up to the 400 range. Heavy jucing and boozing nearly did me in, wish I had never done any of it to be honest with you. Doctors had written me off years ago, trying to push HRT on me, but I am glad I kept believing in what I was doing.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 22, 2025, 11:19:05 PM
900 natural? Pretty dumb question TBH.

Testosterone alone isn’t a great indicator of health or fertility.

Lots of guys have test that high and their FSH, LH, and/or their E2 etc are way high too.

Mine is 640 with ideal other stats..
Well the question is partly out of sheer disbelief in how great it seems, I could not believe my eyes.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 22, 2025, 11:27:28 PM
Jack off more often 5 to 6 times a day it’ll help raise it in fact, I recommend it after every meal and snack you can even add that creamer yogurt to your coffee for protein
I specifically asked to check all kinds of hormones like DHT as well, because I only occasionally feel up to that kind of thing. Unfortunately the doctor didn't do as I asked. He also predicted my test would likely be a lot lower actually compared to my previous result, considering I had aged 5 years and had quit exercising too for the most part. He was very negative and I hope my result is higher than his own and I also hope he feels stupid now about his prejudices. I will not be going back to that asswipe.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 23, 2025, 02:33:01 AM
It's on the highest end of normal

Must labs cap out at 850-950

Typical range is 250-900 in most labs
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: tacobender on August 23, 2025, 05:09:03 AM
I specifically asked to check all kinds of hormones like DHT as well, because I only occasionally feel up to that kind of thing. Unfortunately the doctor didn't do as I asked. He also predicted my test would likely be a lot lower actually compared to my previous result, considering I had aged 5 years and had quit exercising too for the most part. He was very negative and I hope my result is higher than his own and I also hope he feels stupid now about his prejudices. I will not be going back to that asswipe.
show him the teqnique maybe he hasn’t gotten it figured out he may need your helping mouth or hand keep your results between you two
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 23, 2025, 06:54:31 AM
It's on the highest end of normal

Must labs cap out at 850-950

Typical range is 250-900 in most labs

But they said that men 100 years ago had test wayyyy higher than us. So maybe the real normal should be 2000 and being covered up by big corporations.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 23, 2025, 09:04:22 AM
Yes, it's terrible.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 23, 2025, 09:07:17 AM
But they said that men 100 years ago had test wayyyy higher than us. So maybe the real normal should be 2000 and being covered up by big corporations.

According to dirt GAYvens one should be at 1400+ for maximum anabolic effect
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 23, 2025, 09:09:03 AM
What's a good mock for Steve aka vigorous Steve

One of my friends called my uncle Steve skunkcle peeve
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Tennisballz on August 23, 2025, 01:00:45 PM
900 is terrible.  9000 is about the sweet spot where real changes start to happen.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 23, 2025, 01:37:03 PM
Yes, it's terrible.
Figures, that's why I need so much sleep.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 23, 2025, 02:02:35 PM
Figures, that's why I need so much sleep.

He's trolling ya cheif

Greg DOCHEtte has a total t of 850 and look at him
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: obsidian on August 23, 2025, 02:05:47 PM
Initially I was thrilled as it is over double of what it was 5 years ago. My efforts to restore my body through quitting booze and juice have been fruitful. But while it has doubled, which is great, I wonder if it's still considered low by getbig standards (the only standards that are actually worth a damn)
That's decent - what's your age range?

On TRT mine was around 1300-1500. My testosterone is much lower now, since I am overweight and have not been on TRT for years - around 305 lbs. I want to get back on it at some point and get my weight back down to around 250-275 lbs. I looked ok at 275-285 lbs. Far out it would be nice to get in the 220-235 lbs range - I just need some fucking discipline.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: obsidian on August 23, 2025, 02:07:28 PM
But they said that men 100 years ago had test wayyyy higher than us. So maybe the real normal should be 2000 and being covered up by big corporations.
And they were dead much sooner as well. I've read that certain soaps are engineered to lower men's testosterone.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 23, 2025, 02:10:23 PM
An they were dead much sooner as well. I've read that certain soaps are engineered to lower men's testosterone.

Really? Do you remember any details about it?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: obsidian on August 23, 2025, 02:12:57 PM
Really? Do you remember any details about it?
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/soap-ingredient-disrupts-testosterone-activity/3003704.article
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 23, 2025, 02:14:17 PM
I just turned 70 in  June and m dick gets hard when the wind blows.

Got 2 Chivas Regal bags full of gear I will never use again.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 23, 2025, 02:36:33 PM
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/soap-ingredient-disrupts-testosterone-activity/3003704.article
Thanks.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: chaos on August 23, 2025, 02:41:17 PM
Yes, it's terrible.
Surely he meant 1900?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 23, 2025, 02:45:48 PM
I just turned 70 in  June and m dick gets hard when the wind blows.

Got 2 Chivas Regal bags full of gear I will never use again.

If you have deca anavar or primo I want those😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 23, 2025, 02:47:21 PM
I just turned 70 in  June and m dick gets hard when the wind blows.

Got 2 Chivas Regal bags full of gear I will never use again.
How is your energy? How much sleep do you need?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 23, 2025, 06:52:48 PM
900 after having juiced "heavily" and now obviously older sounds too good :-\

I don't know about the statistics but how many men score a 900 out of say a 100 or 1000 tested? Anyone care to pull up the stats...
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: tacobender on August 23, 2025, 10:50:02 PM
Initially I was thrilled as it is over double of what it was 5 years ago. My efforts to restore my body through quitting booze and juice have been fruitful. But while it has doubled, which is great, I wonder if it's still considered low by getbig standards (the only standards that are actually worth a damn)
if you haven’t had pussy in a long time that also lowers it too it’s a proven fact
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 01:26:47 AM
900 after having juiced "heavily" and now obviously older sounds too good :-\

I don't know about the statistics but how many men score a 900 out of say a 100 or 1000 tested? Anyone care to pull up the stats...

Yes, I was on cloud nine while reading the result. I like to think my tinfoil hat lifestyle is paying off.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Griffith on August 24, 2025, 01:30:45 AM
Initially I was thrilled as it is over double of what it was 5 years ago. My efforts to restore my body through quitting booze and juice have been fruitful. But while it has doubled, which is great, I wonder if it's still considered low by getbig standards (the only standards that are actually worth a damn)

What does your diet look like and do you take any supplements?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 02:02:31 AM
What does your diet look like and do you take any supplements?
On weekdays, I often (but not always) eat only once a day in the evening, as I put a good amount of faith in the contestable health claims linked to that practice. Very often whole eggs (I buy the most expensive ones that claim the chickens live naturally, even though I have no solid evidence), often strip loin, sometimes beef hamburger meat, rice, pasta, very often roasted chicken with the skin (this is one of the items in my diet that I question as I am not sure what mystery concoctions they grease up the chicken with), I only use natural butter from grass fed cows, no seed oils, no fake "healthy butter", sometimes I put some olive oil on my pasta. Make my own tomato sauce, never eat any premade sauces. I also often eat prawns in self made sauce based on 35% fat cream. Goat milk cheese as well. A great variety of different fruits but not in huge quantities. I drink mostly water, but sometimes make some fruit smoothies. I still drink coffee during the week usually one a day but I think its probably unhealthy. I dont drink any alcohol. I avoid plastics as much as realistic for soneone who gets his food from the supermarket. Also dont use teflon pans and all kinds of tinfoil hat precautionary measures which are not always incontestable.

Mainstream would expect my cholesterol to be trash (because of the eggs, the butter, the chicken skin..) but it is great (I think)
Total 142 mg/dL
Hdl 53 mg/dL
Non hdl 89 mg/dL
Total to hdl ratio 2.68 mg/mg
Ldl calculated 76 mg/dL
Triglicerides 51 mg/dL

I take lot of vitamins and high grade fish oil because I was led to believe it is good for cholesterol
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 02:21:19 AM
900 after having juiced "heavily" and now obviously older sounds too good :-\

I don't know about the statistics but how many men score a 900 out of say a 100 or 1000 tested? Anyone care to pull up the stats...

Adolescence is a time of rapid increases in testosterone in males, coinciding with the onset of male puberty. By a male's early 20s, their testosterone levels are typically between 409-558 ng/dL, and in the second half of their 20s, between 413-575 ng/dL.7

900 is in the top 5%
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 02:23:44 AM
Dirt slavins says stay above 1400

Mine was 2887 on 250 test and 20 dbol

Doctor clod pee says his clients on 20 mgs daily 140 weekly have a consistent reading of 1400 throughput usage
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 02:33:53 AM
Adolescence is a time of rapid increases in testosterone in males, coinciding with the onset of male puberty. By a male's early 20s, their testosterone levels are typically between 409-558 ng/dL, and in the second half of their 20s, between 413-575 ng/dL.7

900 is in the top 5%
Yes, but on the other hand, they said that our great grandfathers test blew our test out of the water. This is the framing of my question. What is truly good?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 02:43:42 AM
Its not just total t levels

There are a myriad of other factors

Ability to withstand the pain of hard hard training which I have in SPADES

Myostatain deficiency which I lack severely

Etc
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 02:49:53 AM
Its not just total t levels

There are a myriad of other factors

Ability to withstand the pain of hard hard training which I have in SPADES

Myostatain deficiency which I lack severely

Etc
I have psychologically moved on from bodybuilding years ago after coming to terms with the reality about how damaging it is to health as well as how empty it is to live by the approval of others of our muscles. You should consider it and be free.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 03:13:47 AM
I have psychologically moved on from bodybuilding years ago after coming to terms with the reality about how damaging it is to health as well as how empty it is to live by the approval of others of our muscles. You should consider it and be free.

I'm actually more free from having no sex drive

Once I stop the benzo and sleeping pills if it comes back ill ask my doc to help mr suppress it once again
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 03:21:57 AM
I'm actually more free from having no sex drive

Once I stop the benzo and sleeping pills if it comes back ill ask my doc to help mr suppress it once again

Hankins 101

Now we know hes impotent he embraces it as a positive.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Rambone on August 24, 2025, 03:59:47 AM
Total testosterone doesn’t tell the whole story. Mine is always 800-1000 naturally but is 99% bound up
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 04:05:04 AM
Total testosterone doesn’t tell the whole story. Mine is always 800-1000 naturally but is 99% bound up

Pulled up the exact figures
Total test: 885 ng/dL (as I said "just" under 900)
Free test 12.98 ng/dL (so also here then 99% is bound up?)
Test binding globuline: 1874.73 ng/dL

What determines how much test is bound up?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 04:30:01 AM
Trying to understand why I need so much sleep. On weekends I need to sleep several hours in the afternoons.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 04:39:13 AM
Trying to understand why I need so much sleep. On weekends I need to sleep several hours in the afternoons.

You're not analballslicker are you?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 24, 2025, 05:11:31 AM
Pulled up the exact figures
Total test: 885 ng/dL (as I said "just" under 900)
Free test 12.98 ng/dL (so also here then 99% is bound up?)
Test binding globuline: 1874.73 ng/dL

What determines how much test is bound up?

You didn't say how old you are.  (Or I missed it when reading).   But the test binding function of SHBG causes you to have less free test (and estrogen and DHT) in your body that can be used.   It is when the hormone is bound (gets stuck basically) to a protein in the blood and are rendered inactive.  So they are ineffective for the purpose they normally are used for.  High SHBG have all the classic signs and symptoms of low testosterone.  Fatigue, memory fog, irritability, low sex drive, loss in normal interests, etc.

Some underlying issues with the liver or thyroid can cause this.  Along with other medications contributing.  Your doctor can dig deeper into your lab results and get a better picture.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 24, 2025, 05:16:05 AM
How is your energy? How much sleep do you need?
I`m an insomniac but lately have been sleeping my  ass off...............recove ring  nicely......I see my  surgeon tomorrow.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 05:20:12 AM
I`m an insomniac but lately have been sleeping my  ass off...............recove ring  nicely......I see my  surgeon tomorrow.

Good news

Stay strong and tough
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 24, 2025, 05:45:38 AM
Good news

Stay strong and tough
Thanx dj !!
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Lartinos on August 24, 2025, 06:38:28 AM
Jack off more often 5 to 6 times a day it’ll help raise it in fact, I recommend it after every meal and snack you can even add that creamer yogurt to your coffee for protein

Very dumb idea for your health and will raise your prolactin levels too.

Sure sign of mental illness an activity like this.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 07:27:08 AM
You didn't say how old you are.  (Or I missed it when reading).   But the test binding function of SHBG causes you to have less free test (and estrogen and DHT) in your body that can be used.   It is when the hormone is bound (gets stuck basically) to a protein in the blood and are rendered inactive.  So they are ineffective for the purpose they normally are used for.  High SHBG have all the classic signs and symptoms of low testosterone.  Fatigue, memory fog, irritability, low sex drive, loss in normal interests, etc.

Some underlying issues with the liver or thyroid can cause this.  Along with other medications contributing.  Your doctor can dig deeper into your lab results and get a better picture.
I'll be turning 50 shortly. Will try to see an endocrinologist about it.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 24, 2025, 07:44:09 AM
Dirt slavins says stay above 1400

Mine was 2887 on 250 test and 20 dbol

Doctor clod pee says his clients on 20 mgs daily 140 weekly have a consistent reading of 1400 throughput usage

You’ll either die of starvation, infection from being filthy or prostate cancer it seems. Possibly of being a pussy and looking the wrong way at someone in one of your fantasy delusions
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 24, 2025, 07:54:18 AM
Yes, but on the other hand, they said that our great grandfathers test blew our test out of the water. This is the framing of my question. What is truly good?

I think it’s turned out to be bullshit based on the way they did the measuring, changes in methods and much smaller sample sizes. Not sure
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: JK on August 24, 2025, 07:59:54 AM
I just turned 70 in  June and m dick gets hard when the wind blows.

Got 2 Chivas Regal bags full of gear I will never use again.
If I lived in the USA, I would gladly buy them from you.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 08:14:10 AM
You’ll either die of starvation, infection from being filthy or prostate cancer it seems. Possibly of being a pussy and looking the wrong way at someone in one of your fantasy delusions
he had open abscess wounds last year
Did you do sumo or regular?

This damn wound is nearly shut got a doc appointment on Friday but if it does shut completely will most likely cancel but maybe I should go to get the go ahead to train legs little bit/lightly

Just don't give a flying fuck bout training them hard

But arms? Well that is a completely different story

Came back for high rep work on them and they were looking more round and full good shit

At McDonald's now.. double quarter pounder with cheese 6 chicken nuggets extra large fry and coke
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 08:30:36 AM
Hahahaha

At you little souled cowardly shitstainns taking pot shots me

I am VERY HEALTHY

And just wait til you see what I can do in 6 weeks

I'll fully document it on here and X and Instagram

Maybe some.of.ya wanna my insta so you can come and support me😁

J got ALOT riding on this transformation and if I fail which I know I will not fail I'll look the fool🤣🤣🤣🤣

Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 08:34:15 AM
Hahahaha

At you little souled cowardly shitstainns taking pot shots me

I am VERY HEALTHY

And just wait til you see what I can do in 6 weeks

I'll fully document it on here and X and Instagram

Maybe some.of.ya wanna my insta so you can come and support me😁

J got ALOT riding on this transformation and if I fail which I know I will not fail I'll look the fool🤣🤣🤣🤣


I remember a time where you made similar claims about a bench record.

So, forgive folks who are doubting you.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 09:28:41 AM
I remember a time where you made similar claims about a bench record.

So, forgive folks who are doubting you.

Getting ripped is MY GAME and I know just how deca volumizes my upper body

It is going to be dramatic I promise.ya that

I'm not built for strength I'm built for SHAPE and AESTHETICS 😉💪

I'm so confident that I will do this that I am showing the whole process on X and Instagram
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 24, 2025, 09:32:24 AM
As pathetic as Hankins is, he’s more respected than DJ.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 09:33:44 AM
Getting ripped is MY GAME and I know just how deca volumizes my upper body

It is going to be dramatic I promise.ya that

I'm not built for strength I'm built for SHAPE and AESTHETICS 😉💪

I'm so confident that I will do this that I am showing the whole process on X and Instagram

you wont get anywhere near 9%

Your hamstrings glutes and low back will be a sloppy as Hankins biscuits and gravy
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 09:47:56 AM
you wont get anywhere near 9%

Your hamstrings glutes and low back will be a sloppy as Hankins biscuits and gravy

So you are trying to say that's 15% right

You're delusional
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 09:49:13 AM
Do you want me to post up a side tri?

I have cross strartions in my triceps shithead
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 09:54:30 AM
So you are trying to say that's 15% right

You're delusional
yes, thats 15%, you have no abs or intercostals, you have low back fat and hams and love handles

You only need 10lbs of fat on your body to be 15% body fat

You only weigh 150lbs FFS
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 24, 2025, 09:57:46 AM
I remember a time where you made similar claims about a bench record.

So, forgive folks who are doubting you.

He’s been back for six weeks and hasn’t done shit but get worse and lie.  Even though I think he qualifies, I really don’t like to call someone pedo on the internet. I will call him a pussy though as that is 1000% proven by him daily. Anyone on steroids benching 155 is a pussy.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 10:11:43 AM
yes, thats 15%, you have no abs or intercostals, you have low back fat and hams and love handles

You only need 10lbs of fat on your body to be 15% body fat

You only weigh 150lbs FFS

You're nuts

No one has cross strartions on their tris.at 15% its clearly sub-10
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 10:30:48 AM
Getting ripped is MY GAME and I know just how deca volumizes my upper body

It is going to be dramatic I promise.ya that

I'm not built for strength I'm built for SHAPE and AESTHETICS 😉💪

I'm so confident that I will do this that I am showing the whole process on X and Instagram

Your body really won't change much from where it is.

It's fine enough where it's at.

At your age, training should focus on strength and mobility.

You should not be taking all the drugs, just trt and maybe a little deca if you must.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 10:32:15 AM
You're nuts

No one has cross strartions on their tris.at 15% its clearly sub-10

you barely have a fucking triceps

There are no cross striations there you fucking idiot

here which ones yours?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRCObSeoVoU4rHo_1WXLpFmRaUmhM0CDk41KcsLy_cSOXfnWZcErhbBmqfjycHNIcrbys&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 10:37:45 AM
Your body really won't change much from where it is.

It's fine enough where it's at.

At your age, training should focus on strength and mobility.

You should not be taking all the drugs, just trt and maybe a little deca if you must.

I'm very flat now

Deca will.round me and fill me out

Never ran it with added var so things should get interesting 😉💪

This is my livelihood and my money making ability greatly depends upon this transformation

So I will go all out bals to the wall

Proving my methods on X on Instagram and on here
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 10:39:37 AM

This is my livelihood and my money making ability greatly depends upon this transformation

"Wow, you went from 155lbs to 160....what's your secret?"

"I took more drugs".

"Where do I sign up?"
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 24, 2025, 10:41:09 AM
I think it’s turned out to be bullshit based on the way they did the measuring, changes in methods and much smaller sample sizes. Not sure

Yes I think it's mostly BS though I'm too lazy to look it up now. In some populations it might be higher today. People are fatter today but shit nutrition for poor folks in the past surely didn't help test. Surely eating red meat is better than eating mostly potatoes for testosterone. Obviously depends on who and where and their economic status. People are taller today because of better nutrition but test has halved? Hormones are peaking much earlier, kids go into puberty much earlier, all due to "overfeeding " My mom claims she went into puberty at like 17 due to poor nutrition. Diet was mostly starches. It was partly due to ignorance of how you should eat for health :o

Since I have little "infos" in my brain about hormone related things, a little boron supplement might lower SHBG and bring up free test. But on the other hand there's debate on how important SHBG is and it can also be too low.

Of course if I had 900 total test naturally and had easy, quick access to test assays I'd love to see how high I could get it, either with things like enclomiphene, maybe with a sprinkle of an aromatase inhibitor or even some "natural" supps. There's some ntural prolactin imhibitors too that might be interesting to try, P5P, mucuna pruriens etc. If you had a home a testing device similar to how diabetics test glucose it would be fun to test things out.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 10:46:54 AM


Of course if I had 900 total test naturally and had easy, quick access to test assays I'd love to see how high I could get it, either with things like enclomiphene, maybe with a sprinkle of an aromatase inhibitor or even some "natural" supps. There's some ntural prolactin imhibitors too that might be interesting to try, P5P, mucuna pruriens etc. If you had a home a testing device similar to how diabetics test glucose it would be fun to test things out.

This would be great.

I found getting t-levels checked by my regular doc to be a pain in the ass.

Only when I had to visit a urologist, did he check it first thing (he's in his 40s already using TRT, and already upped the dose, lol)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: CalvinH on August 24, 2025, 11:32:26 AM
I'll look the fool🤣🤣🤣🤣




You already do...
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 11:34:28 AM
"Wow, you went from 155lbs to 160....what's your secret?"

"I took more drugs".

"Where do I sign up?"

You just don't realize that the weight scale is worthless

It's how you look that matters

Me @ 157 dry and flat vs me @ 157 (the same fucking weight) but full vascular and round is an INSANE difference

Ask.Wes bout scale weight vs photos and your real look at the moment

157 on the same person can look incredibly different 😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 11:53:08 AM
You just don't realize that the weight scale is worthless

It's how you look that matters

Me @ 157 dry and flat vs me @ 157 (the same fucking weight) but full vascular and round is an INSANE difference

Ask.Wes bout scale weight vs photos and your real look at the moment

157 on the same person can look incredibly different 😉

157lb at 5'11 is fucking laughable.... an untrained person should weigh around 170 lean

You are using steroids and a lot of them
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 12:02:26 PM
Just heard from Leo mayhofer on insta and here's what he said

Just don’t do the anavar

You’re not even competing and you’re not young

This is not clever

Any oral

Forget about it

So ima just run test and deca
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 24, 2025, 12:04:16 PM
Just heard from Leo mayhofer on insta and here's what he said

Just don’t do the anavar

You’re not even competing and you’re not young

This is not clever

Any oral

Forget about it

So ima just run test and deca

so you will add the var on Tuesday
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Rambone on August 24, 2025, 12:23:59 PM
Pulled up the exact figures
Total test: 885 ng/dL (as I said "just" under 900)
Free test 12.98 ng/dL (so also here then 99% is bound up?)
Test binding globuline: 1874.73 ng/dL

What determines how much test is bound up?

I believe SHBG is the main culprit and Albumin to a lesser extent. Your free is a few points higher than mine. I would say 2-3% of your total test would be a more ideal free test number, but as long as you don’t have low T side effects, it’s not much to worry about. You’re middle of the road which isn’t horrible by any means but your total T is definitely top tier
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 12:58:58 PM
so you will add the var on Tuesday

Hahahaha

I will finish out the cheque drops til I get the DECA

Only other compound.i can run is primo but its just so.damn expensive even at 200 mgs a week

Cost 22 bucks

200 test and deca is only 13 bucks a week
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: unwieldy on August 24, 2025, 12:59:22 PM
I believe SHBG is the main culprit and Albumin to a lesser extent. Your free is a few points higher than mine. I would say 2-3% of your total test would be a more ideal free test number, but as long as you don’t have low T side effects, it’s not much to worry about. You’re middle of the road which isn’t horrible by any means but your total T is definitely top tier
Thanks
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 01:09:40 PM
Just heard from Leo mayhofer on insta and here's what he said

Just don’t do the anavar

You’re not even competing and you’re not young

This is not clever

Any oral

Forget about it

So ima just run test and deca

You should not be taking all the drugs, just trt and maybe a little deca if you must.

 You've been told what to do, but had to run to some jack mehoffim on instafag to believe it.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 24, 2025, 01:20:19 PM
You've been told what to do, but had to run to some jack mehoffim on instafag to believe it.

Douglas Oty (Pedo181) suffers from autogynephilia.

It’s part of why he is hiding his attraction to pre-pubescent girls.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 02:09:29 PM
You've been told what to do, but had to run to some jack mehoffim on instafag to believe it.

I know androgens are very bad for me

Ie. Cheque drops, halo, tren, drol and dbol

Do they are off the table

But anabolics like DECA, var and primo are cool for me but it seems that any oral ain't good for me

So that leaves it down to deca and primo

Primo is so fucking expensive 22 a week and it is known to crash estrogen so since I will only run test at 200 mgs that means primo can only be run 200 mgs max

I was gonna just run 200 deca but maybe ill go 400

I did deca long ago and I have to check that thread coz I discussed its sweet spot

Only way I can run 4-500 primo is if I run 4-500 test and and 500 it would cost me 55 bucks a week

So wes is my only hope 😃😃😃😃
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 02:13:28 PM
Or, stop being a retard, hold a job down, save money, train regularly, and go from there.

Then you will be able to afford it.

Real question - Does your mental affliction prevent you from knowing the difference between right and wrong?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2025, 02:44:54 PM
Or, stop being a retard, hold a job down, save money, train regularly, and go from there.

Then you will be able to afford it.

Real question - Does your mental affliction prevent you from knowing the difference between right and wrong?

I'm an anti hero.dude and I will viciously protect the good and innocent

Case in point here...

If any of you nasty pieces of fuckking shit would lay even a finger on these sweet innocent babies

I would fly into a blind fearless rage and viciously attack you with all out fucking effort

Make you wish you had never been born

Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 24, 2025, 02:59:15 PM
Or, stop being a retard, hold a job down, save money, train regularly, and go from there.

Then you will be able to afford it.

Real question - Does your mental affliction prevent you from knowing the difference between right and wrong?
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Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 02:59:30 PM
I'm an anti hero.dude and I will viciously protect the good and innocent

Case in point here...

If any of you nasty pieces of fuckking shit would lay even a finger on these sweet innocent babies

I would fly into a blind fearless rage and viciously attack you with all out fucking effort

Make you wish you had never been born



Let's stay out of retard world and deal with the real world.  I say this because their will be no situation where you see someone harming a pack of small lions, and the mother lion would just sit there.  And if they did somehow overpower her, I don't think your retard-antihero-rage would be enough to stop them.  And why would you be in the vicinity of a pack of fucking lions anyway?

Let's say you finally realize you need a regular job.  And you get one.  Is the 'tard that strong that you don't realize telling coworkers or customers stupid shit will get you fired?  Or, does the 'tard just make you not care?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 24, 2025, 03:03:04 PM
No Social Skills Of Peace  :(
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 03:08:31 PM
No Social Skills Of Peace  :(

"If I ever see a pack of lions and their mother getting hurt, I'm going full anti hero on their asses".

Can't make this stuff up.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 24, 2025, 03:14:31 PM
"If I ever see a pack of lions and their mother getting hurt, I'm going full anti hero on their asses".

Can't make this stuff up.
we can`t,but he can!   ;D
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: CalvinH on August 24, 2025, 07:19:17 PM
You just don't realize that the weight scale is worthless



Then why do you constantly weigh yourself and worry about it so much?


... Hell it's in your screen name ::)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2025, 07:19:57 PM
Clavin showing up out of nowhere and dropping bombs in this thread.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 12:01:01 AM

Then why do you constantly weigh yourself and worry about it so much?


... Hell it's in your screen name ::)

I made that screedname 30 years ago

I don't feel that now

Samir and Zane are right fuck the scale and the tapemeasure and focus on the mirror and photos
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 12:04:54 AM
Let's stay out of retard world and deal with the real world.  I say this because their will be no situation where you see someone harming a pack of small lions, and the mother lion would just sit there.  And if they did somehow overpower her, I don't think your retard-antihero-rage would be enough to stop them.  And why would you be in the vicinity of a pack of fucking lions anyway?

Let's say you finally realize you need a regular job.  And you get one.  Is the 'tard that strong that you don't realize telling coworkers or customers stupid shit will get you fired?  Or, does the 'tard just make you not care?

Its not retardation it's implusivity this makes me not be able to stop

My imlplusivity is insanely strong and I'm taking about any of you saying unkind words to kind souled people

I would snap and attack

Call an overweight girl fat to her face I WILL defend her

It's what we anti heros.do😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 25, 2025, 01:15:36 PM
I know androgens are very bad for me

Look, just a few days ago you weren't satisfied with Halo because it was too weak for you, no aggression. Now you've decided all "androgens" are bad for you. Not only that, now you think any orals aren't healthy for you, so even Anavar is out. When I mentioned Anavar it wasn't a recommendation, just saying it too would be fine for strength, of course it will add some stress to your system. It's nuts to say the least when you change everything completely by the hour! ;)

Regarding "aesthetics" and steroids. No steroid will give you aesthetics nor will any take away from it, they all pretty much work the same way. Pre-internet, you know what competitors ran for off season or precontest? What the doc could prescribe, which was limited, and what the dealer had in his gym bag. They made do with what they had, they didn't overly stress over it. Sometimes there was Primo, often not, sometimes there was Para, often not. Here someone might have had Zambon Winstrol to sell when prep rolled around, but if not, no big deal. And this includes tip of the top Mr O competitors! But they still looked amazing.

 8)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Grape Ape on August 25, 2025, 01:22:28 PM
Its not retardation it's implusivity this makes me not be able to stop

My imlplusivity is insanely strong and I'm taking about any of you saying unkind words to kind souled people

I would snap and attack

Call an overweight girl fat to her face I WILL defend her

It's what we anti heros.do😉

So, after you save the pack of baby lions, and finish your week long torturing of george soros, you will be talking to a fat chick in real life and someone else will call her fat and you will spring to action.

Got it.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 01:25:47 PM
Look, just a few days ago you weren't satisfied with Halo because it was too weak for you, no aggression. Now you've decided all "androgens" are bad for you. Not only that, now you think any orals aren't healthy for you, so even Anavar is out. When I mentioned Anavar it wasn't a recommendation, just saying it too would be fine for strength, of course it will add some stress to your system. It's nuts to say the least when you change everything completely by the hour! ;)

Regarding "aesthetics" and steroids. No steroid will give you aesthetics nor will any take away from it, they all pretty much work the same way. Pre-internet, you know what competitors ran for off season or precontest? What the doc could prescribe, which was limited, and what the dealer had in his gym bag. They made do with what they had, they didn't overly stress over it. Sometimes there was Primo, often not, sometimes there was Para, often not. Here someone might have had Zambon Winstrol to sell when prep rolled around, but if not, no big deal. And this includes tip of the top Mr O competitors! But they still looked amazing.

 8)

You are DEAD wrong about AESTHETICS

Deca gives me amazing aesthetics mast awful!!!!!

You are sooooo fucking wrong

And yes Leo is right someone my age has no biz taking orals

On and halo did make me aggressive

Now that I flushed it I am much more easy going😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 01:29:34 PM
So, after you save the pack of baby lions, and finish your week long torturing of george soros, you will be talking to a fat chick in real life and someone else will call her fat and you will spring to action.

Got it.

I would not interact with a fat chick

But if I caught wind of someone trying to bully her I would get very assertive

And yes I would give my fuckking life to save a sweet baby lion I love them more than life

In fact I would love to be a lioness bf and help take care of and protect her sweet beautiful cubs

Not romantic love only pure and Godly love to my linoness gf♥️♥️♥️
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Flexacon on August 25, 2025, 01:59:34 PM
I would not interact with a fat chick

But if I caught wind of someone trying to bully her I would get very assertive

And yes I would give my fuckking life to save a sweet baby lion I love them more than life

In fact I would love to be a lioness bf and help take care of and protect her sweet beautiful cubs

Not romantic love only pure and Godly love to my linoness gf♥️♥️♥️

What age range would the lioness need to be or are you not fussy if she's an old kitty?
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 02:00:28 PM
You're on ignore shitacon😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 25, 2025, 02:14:34 PM
Look, just a few days ago you weren't satisfied with Halo because it was too weak for you, no aggression. Now you've decided all "androgens" are bad for you. Not only that, now you think any orals aren't healthy for you, so even Anavar is out. When I mentioned Anavar it wasn't a recommendation, just saying it too would be fine for strength, of course it will add some stress to your system. It's nuts to say the least when you change everything completely by the hour! ;)

Regarding "aesthetics" and steroids. No steroid will give you aesthetics nor will any take away from it, they all pretty much work the same way. Pre-internet, you know what competitors ran for off season or precontest? What the doc could prescribe, which was limited, and what the dealer had in his gym bag. They made do with what they had, they didn't overly stress over it. Sometimes there was Primo, often not, sometimes there was Para, often not. Here someone might have had Zambon Winstrol to sell when prep rolled around, but if not, no big deal. And this includes tip of the top Mr O competitors! But they still looked amazing.

 8)

pssst I already told you to stop wasting your time on him, hes fucking retarded.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: BB on August 25, 2025, 02:25:08 PM
I think it’s turned out to be bullshit based on the way they did the measuring, changes in methods and much smaller sample sizes. Not sure

You just don't see much testosterone testing earlier than the 1970's, and even those are sparse. I did see a few modern ones that calculated the drop in about a 40 year span to be about 150ng/dl from males in the 1980s to males in the 2020s. It's a drop, but I wouldn't call it a cratering. Much of it blamed on obesity.


Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 25, 2025, 02:30:38 PM
You are DEAD wrong about AESTHETICS

Deca gives me amazing aesthetics mast awful!!!!!

You are sooooo fucking wrong

And yes Leo is right someone my age has no biz taking orals

On and halo did make me aggressive

Now that I flushed it I am much more easy going😉

Everything is relative, many say no one should ever take any oral steroids period, lots of pros say it was a mistake to ever take orals and they would never do so again. "No good reason for orals ever, every oral can be perfectly mimicked with an injectable." I don't think they are good or bad, it all depends on risk tolerance and what you're using it for.

Even if a steroid affected "aesthetics" minimally, the effect is completely temporary. You think Flex Wheeler would have lost his aesthetics if some year he didn't have Durabolin or whatever he liked best for his look? You can change the minute cosmetic effects within hours, if you're watery, take half a Dyazide and 4 hours later you have pissed out any excess water. Back in the day some said Masteron could visually make you harder and grainier within hours of taking a shot if in contest shape LOL. Absolutely no one lost any aesthetics due to some Masteron and the claimed improvement was also way exaggerated.
I've never once heard anyone else claim Mast made them look "awful"  ;D
Like I said, in the early-mid 90s pros used steroids according to what was available, one year they may have used Andriol caps and thought they were a great last minute hardener (e.g. Milos), next year the dealer had Proviron instead. Next time it was Halo.  One year they ran Winstrol for an oral last weeks, next it was Anavar. The top guys still consistently delivered spectacular looks every time. Even today, with absolutely everything available always, competitors switch their stacks around every prep. Most don't give enough of a fuck, the coach probably has to be on their ass to get the right products, most "know" nothing and don't care.  If something makes you "flat," just drink a couple of glasses of water with a bouillon cube, easy remedy. One coach says if someone has become watery at a show, take a little Humalog and some salt and 10 minutes later the water is sucked back in ;D

Take some pics in the exact same spot and light before and after the Deca so we can see if there is a drastic difference. BTW, Deca is so yesterday (only half serious), take NPP instead so you have more control and don't have to wait around for levels to reach steady-state ;) 8)

pssst I already told you to stop wasting your time on him, hes fucking retarded.

I know, you have said it for the longest time. I'm not completely retarded ;D

I'm mostly having a convo with myself, we are not changing anyone. I'm not any kind of writer but I just saw Tucker Carlson and his guest say something to the effect of, "if you haven't written about it, you haven't really thought about it;" which I took to mean typing about something might help my thought process. I need all the help I can get ;D
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 25, 2025, 02:31:32 PM
Everything is relative, many say no one should ever take any oral steroids period, lots of pros say it was a mistake to ever take orals and they would never do so again. "No good reason for orals ever, every oral can be perfectly mimicked with an injectable." I don't think they are good or bad, it all depends on risk tolerance and what you're using it for.

Even if a steroid affected "aesthetics" minimally, the effect is completely temporary. You think Flex Wheeler would have lost his aesthetics if some year he didn't have Durabolin or whatever he liked best for his look? You can change the minute cosmetic effects within hours, if you're watery, take half a Dyazide and 4 hours later you have pissed out any excess water. Back in the day some said Masteron could visually make you harder and grainier within hours of taking a shot if in contest shape LOL. Absolutely no one lost any aesthetics due to some Masteron and the claimed improvement was also way exaggerated.
I've never once heard anyone else claim Mast made them look "awful"  ;D
Like I said, in the early-mid 90s pros used steroids according to what was available, one year they may have used Andriol caps and thought they were a great last minute hardener (e.g. Milos), next year the dealer had Proviron instead. Next time it was Halo.  One year they ran Winstrol for an oral last weeks, next it was Anavar. The top guys still consistently delivered spectacular looks every time. Even today, with absolutely everything available always, competitors switch their stacks around every prep. Most don't give enough of a fuck, the coach probably has to be on their ass to get the right products, most "know" nothing and don't care.  If something makes you "flat," just drink a couple of glasses of water with a bouillon cube, easy remedy. One coach says if someone has become watery at a show, take a little Humalog and some salt and 10 minutes later the water is sucked back in ;D

Take some pics in the exact same spot and light before and after the Deca so we can see if there is a drastic difference. BTW, Deca is so yesterday (only half serious), take NPP instead so you have more control and don't have to wait around for levels to reach steady-state ;) 8)
I think you need to get out more
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: BigRo on August 25, 2025, 02:37:01 PM
Must take 20 minutes to write all that.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 25, 2025, 02:38:08 PM
I think you need to get out more

I really do, you couldn't imagine. It's midnight, going to the gym now ;D
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 25, 2025, 02:39:06 PM
I really do, you couldn't imagine. It's midnight, going to the gym now ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 02:41:51 PM
Everything is relative, many say no one should ever take any oral steroids period, lots of pros say it was a mistake to ever take orals and they would never do so again. "No good reason for orals ever, every oral can be perfectly mimicked with an injectable." I don't think they are good or bad, it all depends on risk tolerance and what you're using it for.

Even if a steroid affected "aesthetics" minimally, the effect is completely temporary. You think Flex Wheeler would have lost his aesthetics if some year he didn't have Durabolin or whatever he liked best for his look? You can change the minute cosmetic effects within hours, if you're watery, take half a Dyazide and 4 hours later you have pissed out any excess water. Back in the day some said Masteron could visually make you harder and grainier within hours of taking a shot if in contest shape LOL. Absolutely no one lost any aesthetics due to some Masteron and the claimed improvement was also way exaggerated.
I've never once heard anyone else claim Mast made them look "awful"  ;D
Like I said, in the early-mid 90s pros used steroids according to what was available, one year they may have used Andriol caps and thought they were a great last minute hardener (e.g. Milos), next year the dealer had Proviron instead. Next time it was Halo.  One year they ran Winstrol for an oral last weeks, next it was Anavar. The top guys still consistently delivered spectacular looks every time. Even today, with absolutely everything available always, competitors switch their stacks around every prep. Most don't give enough of a fuck, the coach probably has to be on their ass to get the right products, most "know" nothing and don't care.  If something makes you "flat," just drink a couple of glasses of water with a bouillon cube, easy remedy. One coach says if someone has become watery at a show, take a little Humalog and some salt and 10 minutes later the water is sucked back in ;D

Take some pics in the exact same spot and light before and after the Deca so we can see if there is a drastic difference. BTW, Deca is so yesterday (only half serious), take NPP instead so you have more control and don't have to wait around for levels to reach steady-state ;) 8)

I know, you have said it for the longest time. I'm not completely retarded ;D

I'm mostly having a convo with myself, we are not changing anyone. I'm not any kind of writer but I just saw Tucker Carlson and his guest say something to the effect of, "if you haven't written about it, you haven't really thought about it;" which I took to mean typing about something might help my thought process. I need all the help I can get ;D

I don't feel like taking the time to look up my mast photos here

But go to my post "really digging the deca" 😉

Even bigmc himself at the very end of that thread said.... this is the best you ever looked
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 02:48:36 PM
Here ya go

I would never ever look like this o mast

never

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Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 02:51:13 PM
Like Broderick Chavez said


Deca is a VOLUMiZER


It sure az hell is for me
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: joswift on August 25, 2025, 02:52:52 PM
Like Broderick Chavez said


Deca is a VOLUMiZER


It sure az hell is for me

Be careful you dont get "deca dick" ....oh hang on, you already have it without deca.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: wes on August 25, 2025, 03:38:47 PM
Dick shelf   ;D
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 25, 2025, 04:24:27 PM
So, after you save the pack of baby lions, and finish your week long torturing of george soros, you will be talking to a fat chick in real life and someone else will call her fat and you will spring to action.

Got it.

I wish I was Mr Kevin Richardson

I would gladly give up steroids and training to have his life

I absolutely love meggy, niege, and Gabby

They would be 3 perfect gf

Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: CalvinH on August 26, 2025, 08:36:20 AM
I would not interact with a fat chick


You don't interact with any chicks.
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 26, 2025, 09:20:57 AM
You don't interact with any chicks.

Wrong

Rapped with one bout 3 weeks ago in my gym and it went very well tbh😉
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Notomorrow on August 26, 2025, 12:24:45 PM
     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

     
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: dj181 on August 26, 2025, 12:27:45 PM
Spot on post

According to dirt GAYvens you need at least 1400 total t for anabolism
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Rambone on August 26, 2025, 02:39:04 PM
     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

   

TRT clinics will prescribe if your free T is on the lower end of the range and you have low T symptoms. “Want to be optimized?” is the pitch
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: CalvinH on August 26, 2025, 04:23:57 PM
Wrong

Rapped with one bout 3 weeks ago in my gym and it went very well tbh😉


3 weeks ago ::)
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: delon on August 26, 2025, 08:03:46 PM
Dj even documented this momentous 8 minute conversation in a post

Well just had an 8 or so minute talk with a blonde here in my gym she was very pretty and her make was Diana same name as my mom

She was named after princess Di after she passed so she would be 27-28

Just a tad too old for me but she was a pretty woman and quite cool😎


Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 26, 2025, 08:21:55 PM
Dj even documented this momentous 8 minute conversation in a post

25 days ago, so about 2.25 minutes a week, at that rate he'd have under 2 hours actual female conversation per year
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Lartinos on August 26, 2025, 09:01:13 PM
     High natural testosterone is likely for former steroid users if they wait long enough to recover. Most declare "permanent shutdown" after 6 months to a year, but the truth is that LH and FSH rise dramatically in response to low testosterone.  If you look at the LH and FSH of men over 75, whether former steroid users or not, they usually have very high LH and FSH. They have low testosterone from the actual aging of the leydig cells in the testes, which no longer respond to LH and FSH. If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very high test.

The rise in FSH and LH with increasing age is consistent with the decline in testosterone, assuming normal operation of the feedback pathway by which low testosterone level signals the hypothalamic-pituitary axis to release FSH and LH(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3073592/)

     That being said, whether 900 is "good" or not, it's fantastic for healthy aging but horrible for competitive bodybuilding because it's too high for any doctor to prescribe testosterone or anabolics, but too low for noticeable muscle gain above what you would have at say 700.

   

Many BB’s don’t have scripts or go to Bhank’s doc.

Also this statement is not always true. People on Reddit show this.
Those are elevated because testicular failure is happening and is not a guarantee.
“ If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very ”
Title: Re: Had my testosterone checked and it was just under 900. Is that good or terrible?
Post by: Notomorrow on August 27, 2025, 12:46:19 PM

Also this statement is not always true. People on Reddit show this.
Those are elevated because testicular failure is happening and is not a guarantee.
“ If a young man had the LH and FSH of an 75 year old man, he'd have very ”
Exactly, we're in agreement. The only reason someone would have "permanent shutdown" is because their testicles are not functioning, but FSH and LH will almost always be high if there is low testosterone. As long as one has functioning, healthy testes high FSH and LH should result in high testosterone, which is how HCG increases testosterone, by mimicking FSH and LH. A reasonable test to see if one had "permanent' shutdown is if HCG does not raise testosterone. This would mean the testes are not functioning.