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Title: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Gargamel on September 02, 2025, 04:47:53 AM
Look at his competitors lol. He will look like a swimmer next to them. Will his ego recover when he places like 12th place at the show?



Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 02, 2025, 04:54:42 AM
He just needs to load up on seo, which im sure he will.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: unwieldy on September 02, 2025, 01:52:09 PM
Under Markus tutelage and mentorship with the floodgates opened, I am looking forward to witnessing his ascent into ifbb superstardom
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: obsidian on September 02, 2025, 02:27:21 PM
Urs is not big enough. He has great calves and shape though. Will have to see what he looks like on the stage. I wish him well.

YouTube thumbnail is photoshopped by the way - his arms don't look like that in the video.

Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: njflex on September 02, 2025, 06:16:43 PM
Markus looks healthy for 75
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: pamith on September 02, 2025, 07:03:51 PM
Markus looks healthy for 75
He's still big, in his day he was just the biggest mass monster
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 02, 2025, 07:25:44 PM
He'll do well..for him. It's smaller show. He's going to have bring conditioning other wise if he stands next to Oliva or Budeshim (sp) he'll get wrecked. Needs to stay in classic.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 02, 2025, 07:49:19 PM
Who knows, he might surprise a lot of doubters. I just saw a bit of a video on Nick's channel where he said Urs has been as heavy as 280 with a lean ass LOL! Urs says he would have to burn off 35lbs of pure muscle now to make weight for classic, which he claims has already taken a toll on his health, mentally too, in past shows. Nick speculated that Brazilian guy might make the switch too.

So he has small arms. But look at how shitty many of the other guys look. If he brings the best conditioning it can bump up his placing a lot. Isn't this type of physique what "we" have wanted to see in open bodybuilding? :D
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: unwieldy on September 02, 2025, 08:21:53 PM
Who knows, he might surprise a lot of doubters. I just saw a bit of a video on Nick's channel where he said Urs has been as heavy as 280 with a lean ass LOL! Urs says he would have to burn off 35lbs of pure muscle now to make weight for classic, which he claims has already taken a toll on his health, mentally too, in past shows. Nick speculated that Brazilian guy might make the switch too.

So he has small arms. But look at how shitty many of the other guys look. If he brings the best conditioning it can bump up his placing a lot. Isn't this type of physique what "we" have wanted to see in open bodybuilding? :D
Dorian had terrible arms too after all.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: AbrahamG on September 02, 2025, 08:27:55 PM
He'll do well..for him. It's smaller show. He's going to have bring conditioning other wise if he stands next to Oliva or Budeshim (sp) he'll get wrecked. Needs to stay in classic.

He's outgrown classic in my opinion.  I think he should do smaller open shows and gradually come in heavier.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Mothballs on September 02, 2025, 09:28:23 PM
He's so much smaller than everyone else. His arms suck. If he places it will be because of his name.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: BigRo on September 03, 2025, 06:49:07 AM
Markus looks healthy for 75

75 lol.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: falco on September 03, 2025, 09:25:33 AM
Markus still has old oil in his biceps, from his heyday.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Hulkotron on September 03, 2025, 10:11:43 AM
Markus arms look very strange.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2025, 12:48:36 PM
He's outgrown classic in my opinion.  I think he should do smaller open shows and gradually come in heavier.

Then IMO, he's going to have to take at least a solid year off to just train, eat and grow then think about something in year two.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: AbrahamG on September 03, 2025, 04:49:42 PM
Then IMO, he's going to have to take at least a solid year off to just train, eat and grow then think about something in year two.

I agree with that.  Curious to see how much bigger he comes in this weekend and what the conditioning level is.
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2025, 07:20:03 PM
I agree with that.  Curious to see how much bigger he comes in this weekend and what the conditioning level is.

A good 15-20lbs
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: AbrahamG on September 03, 2025, 07:22:35 PM
A good 15-20lbs

Anything more than 20 and he wont be conditioned (in my opinion). 
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Rambone on September 06, 2025, 02:56:21 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Urs gets a haircut! He looks every bit of 27 years old.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 06, 2025, 05:54:11 PM
Urs needs to visit the judges all of them in there hotel rooms and bring his ass ! And show them why he is called the Berlin beast
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: old_lifter on September 06, 2025, 05:57:43 PM
Looks like banks
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: wes on September 06, 2025, 07:53:48 PM
2 words......He`s fucked!
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 06, 2025, 08:54:47 PM
Dorian had terrible arms too after all.
His arms were good and made his lats appear bigger. Had more flow. Ronnie was a jumbled mess in some shots because his arms were so big.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: unwieldy on September 07, 2025, 05:07:47 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Urs gets a haircut! He looks every bit of 27 years old.
He looks 42 ???
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: TheOne on September 07, 2025, 05:58:03 AM
Where did he place? 16th?
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 07, 2025, 08:33:20 AM
His arms were good and made his lats appear bigger. Had more flow. Ronnie was a jumbled mess in some shots because his arms were so big.

dorian had amazing triceps he had the best side tricep pose in the business

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 08:42:06 AM
BREAKING NEWS: Urs gets a haircut! He looks every bit of 27 years old.

Now he's got his make-up on - it's gettin' dead serious >:(
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2025, 09:23:23 AM
You notice most guys still get tan top from the spray tan and don’t do their faces anymore so the faces are a lot of them either pale or white back in the day. I understand that yes over tanning is not good for your skin but all the 70s and 80s guys had a great tans
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: BigRo on September 07, 2025, 09:24:09 AM
Now he's got his make-up on - it's gettin' dead serious >:(

Looking menacing with the plucked brows too.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 07, 2025, 09:25:37 AM
You notice most guys still get tan top from the spray tan and don’t do their faces anymore so the faces are a lot of them either pale or white back in the day. I understand that yes over tanning is not good for your skin but all the 70s and 80s guys had a great tans

nj they had natural tans where there even tanning beds back then i wasnt old enough to remember.   i remember mentzer said he would go on a roof to tan and it also helped him eliminate water from the heat. these guys today are to lazy to do that hell they can barely get up a flight of stairs withought running out of breath.

urs will have to have  ass hole reconstructive surgery soon. he has taken alot of abuse  between the drugs and his sugar daddies
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: _bruce_ on September 07, 2025, 09:27:09 AM
Markus arms look very strange.

Gold-diggers love them...
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2025, 09:29:24 AM
nj they had natural tans where there even tanning beds back then i wasnt old enough to remember.   i remember mentzer said he would go on a roof to tan and it also helped him eliminate water from the heat. these guys today are to lazy to do that hell they can barely get up a flight of stairs withought running out of breath.

urs will have to have  ass hole reconstructive surgery soon. he has taken alot of abuse  between the drugs and his sugar daddies
True.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 09:36:10 AM
nj they had natural tans where there even tanning beds back then i wasnt old enough to remember.   i remember mentzer said he would go on a roof to tan and it also helped him eliminate water from the heat. these guys today are to lazy to do that hell they can barely get up a flight of stairs withought running out of breath.

I think the reason is rather that there was no skin cancer awareness back then as opposed to now. Arnold and Franco would cover themselves in olive oil tanning for hours in the midday sun on Venice beach back then, today everybody knows that's basically suicidal behaviour.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 07, 2025, 10:00:16 AM
I think the reason is rather that there was no skin cancer awareness back then as opposed to now. Arnold and Franco would cover themselves in olive oil tanning for hours in the midday sun on Venice beach back then, today everybody knows that's basically suicidal behaviour.


would probably offend the far left as well, cause like they are abusing the enviroment with there sun tan oil and big muscles !

could you imagine the sick depraved shit arnold and franco would do with  nanci pelosi  and aoc

"franco you get the old whore lil buddy and ill take the young one !"
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 10:42:59 AM
Urs looks much better in the Open vs. Classic.  Just watched the prejudging on YouTube.  Urs is definitely top 3. IMO he's the winner.  He's the best overall.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOT1Q9ZjdRb/
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 11:15:52 AM
His arms almost doubled in size. He was def held back by the weight cap in classic :o
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 11:18:32 AM
His arms almost doubled in size. He was def held back by the weight cap in classic :o

Yeah, I'm shocked. He looks great. If he can fill out his mid to low back a little more, he's a legit contender in all shows other than the Olympia and Arnold (for now). His conditioning will carry him far. He looks so much better in the open. Props to Urs. He far exceeded my expectations.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 11:18:45 AM
Sergio and Quinton off once again, could somebody please tell these american idiots once how to diet? Urs should take the win.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: joswift on September 07, 2025, 11:18:58 AM
His arms almost doubled in size. He was def held back by the weight cap in classic :o
and his skinny forearms demonstrate how he did it
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: unwieldy on September 07, 2025, 11:19:22 AM
Urs looks much better in the Open vs. Classic.  Just watched the prejudging on YouTube.  Urs is definitely top 3. IMO he's the winner.  He's the best overall.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOT1Q9ZjdRb/
never doubt markus
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 11:23:19 AM
never doubt markus

It's that Boss of Outlaw guy (his "guru"). Dude can pull off miracles. He revived Bonac's career and improved DeAsha. No shade to Ruhl of course.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: SF1900 on September 07, 2025, 11:40:51 AM
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: BigRo on September 07, 2025, 11:44:30 AM
He looked great. Strange how his back double has very little detail but his glutes are insane.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 11:46:20 AM


Urs looks like he has the same issues Ramy had in his midback. It looks atrophied. Don't know if it's from nerve damage or what, because it wasn't that way before. It's like that extra weight helped some parts of his physique but hurt his back.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 11:50:20 AM
1st callout

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Rambone on September 07, 2025, 11:52:29 AM
Looks better than I thought. Props. Double props for the shredded glutes (nh)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 11:53:02 AM
Quinton and Sergio look in the upper body like they didn't diet at all, like a friggin guestposing lol
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 11:56:09 AM
Quinton and Sergio look in the upper body like they didn't diet at all, like a friggin guestposing lol
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The need to fire who's doing their peak week (Quinton does his own) (Sergio uses Boss of Outlaw). Because on their IGs they looked great a week ago.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 12:02:34 PM
Urs looks like he has the same issues Ramy had in his midback. It looks atrophied. Don't know if it's from nerve damage or what, because it wasn't that way before. It's like that extra weight helped some parts of his physique but hurt his back.

I'm afraid there are some nerval issues, because his left calf is gettin' that eroded Dennis Wolf look as well more and more. It's a shame considering how big and full his calves were in the early days.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: BigRo on September 07, 2025, 12:06:33 PM
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 12:46:16 PM
I'm afraid there are some nerval issues, because his left calf is gettin' that eroded Dennis Wolf look as well more and more. It's a shame considering how big and full his calves were in the early days.

Good point.  His calves are/were one of his standout body parts.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 12:48:12 PM
Urs Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.instagram.com/beyondthestagetv_/reel/DOUCD4JjTYR/

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOUCgSjDYB9/
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: MAXX on September 07, 2025, 12:53:09 PM
I'm afraid there are some nerval issues, because his left calf is gettin' that eroded Dennis Wolf look as well more and more. It's a shame considering how big and full his calves were in the early days.

That is unfortunate. Same symptoms as Iain vallier, Dennis Wolf and Ahmad Haidar.

They all lost their calves and lower lats
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Never1AShow on September 07, 2025, 01:00:27 PM
Finally something positive. Good for Urs, Congrats!!
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: balzac on September 07, 2025, 01:17:36 PM
Where did he place? 16th?

 :D

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 01:39:37 PM
I guess the question now is, how high can he place in the Open?  I don't think top 10 yet. His back needs work.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Stephano on September 07, 2025, 01:59:55 PM
I guess the question now is, how high can he place in the Open?  I don't think top 10 yet. His back needs work.

And his arms are full of oil. 

lmao at adding 3" to your upper arm circumference in 6 months, while adding 0.00" to your forearms.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: BigRo on September 07, 2025, 02:50:23 PM
There is no way his arms grew that much legit muscle so quickly.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: dj181 on September 07, 2025, 03:32:04 PM
There is no way his arms grew that much legit muscle so quickly.

Yes its possible
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Titus Pullo on September 07, 2025, 03:34:26 PM
Yes its possible

At that level?

Highly unlikely.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Hulkotron on September 07, 2025, 04:17:45 PM
Great news
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: dj181 on September 07, 2025, 04:19:24 PM
At that level?

Highly unlikely.

He said he had to lose 30 pounds of muscle to make the classic weight class
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 07, 2025, 05:41:24 PM
he might surprise a lot of doubters.

So he has small arms. But look at how shitty many of the other guys look. If he brings the best conditioning it can bump up his placing a lot. Isn't this type of physique what "we" have wanted to see in open bodybuilding? :D

WTF did I say guys! :D :D :D

Haha even beating Sergio, that's great. I didn't even bother watching any video, but I bet he jimmied up his arms something crazy but who cares if it still looks ok :D
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Wiggs on September 07, 2025, 07:36:19 PM
WTF did I say guys! :D :D :D

Haha even beating Sergio, that's great. I didn't even bother watching any video, but I bet he jimmied up his arms something crazy but who cares if it still looks ok :D

You hit the nail on.the head Van.   8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: beakdoctor on September 07, 2025, 07:53:46 PM
Yes its possible

Lol, said like you're some kind of expert! Wtf do you know about bringing up your arms? Lol.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on September 07, 2025, 09:06:42 PM
He’s been referred to by many as “The Next Sergio Oliva”
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: obsidian on September 07, 2025, 10:43:33 PM
You notice most guys still get tan top from the spray tan and don’t do their faces anymore so the faces are a lot of them either pale or white back in the day. I understand that yes over tanning is not good for your skin but all the 70s and 80s guys had a great tans
Cory Everson says she avoided tanning because she didn't want to fuck up her skin or get skin cancer. She always used self tanning lotions and looked ok for photoshoots and on stage. She had some facial surgery done, and in her case it turned out great! Smart woman with the tanning issue.

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: obsidian on September 07, 2025, 10:44:21 PM
:D
Looks good there. He really added mass. I guess it helped working with Ruhl.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 07, 2025, 11:57:25 PM
The only thing I can focus from this point on is his left calf which is basically completely gone (while his calves used to be super-impressive). Really f*cking up his symmetry, sad. What the heck are these guys doin'? ???
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: wes on September 08, 2025, 12:06:20 AM
He surprised the Hell out of me...........big props to him.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Flexacon on September 08, 2025, 01:02:34 AM
It was a weak line up, but he was in the best shape and probably deserved the win.

He is still light in the torso, especially from the back. Arms have been jimmed up, but no worse than Lunsford.

He used to have nice diamond calves, but they have gone Dennis Wolf now

Overall good showing though. Fantastic quads and ass (no homo)

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Gargamel on September 08, 2025, 01:14:02 AM
The only thing I can focus from this point on is his left calf which is basically completely gone (while his calves used to be super-impressive). Really f*cking up his symmetry, sad. What the heck are these guys doin'? ???
He won 10 USD for first place?
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: obsidian on September 08, 2025, 01:51:29 AM
It was a weak line up, but he was in the best shape and probably deserved the win.

He is still light in the torso, especially from the back. Arms have been jimmed up, but no worse than Lunsford.

He used to have nice diamond calves, but they have gone Dennis Wolf now

Overall good showing though. Fantastic quads and ass (no homo)


Too bad about his calves. I noticed that as well. I wonder if there is anything he can do to get them back to their original form.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: wes on September 08, 2025, 01:55:11 AM
Everyone else looked waterlogged/or softer than baby shit.

Do these guys still diet and do cardio or is it completely all just drugs ?
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: MAXX on September 08, 2025, 01:55:39 AM
The only thing I can focus from this point on is his left calf which is basically completely gone (while his calves used to be super-impressive). Really f*cking up his symmetry, sad. What the heck are these guys doin'? ???
Nerve damage/ or pinched nerve. From compressed spinal disc. Imo...

Iain said on a podcast that a doctor told him it had to do something with lack of blood supply. But that does not explain that in all these cases it occurs both in lower lats, and the calves(mainly lateral calf muscle)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Hulkotron on September 08, 2025, 02:33:54 AM
It was a weak line up, but he was in the best shape and probably deserved the win.

He is still light in the torso, especially from the back. Arms have been jimmed up, but no worse than Lunsford.

He used to have nice diamond calves, but they have gone Dennis Wolf now

Overall good showing though. Fantastic quads and ass (no homo)



A bit of the Hankins Shaky-Leg going on in the lat spread
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: MAXX on September 08, 2025, 02:43:39 AM
Likely his calves and back will go this route and look like this in a couple of years

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 08, 2025, 02:46:42 AM
Likely his calves and back will go this route and look like this in a couple of years

Why is it always the calves and back. How are they interconnected? (Ramy and Wolf too; calves gone, back gone)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: MAXX on September 08, 2025, 02:48:46 AM
Why is it always the calves and back. How are they interconnected?
I believe nerve form the spinalcord compressed/pinched by the same collapsed disc

just a theory but yeah I can't find any other logical explanation

(https://www.welcomebackclinic.com/sitecm/i/herniateddisk.png?Width=400)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: ChristopherA on September 08, 2025, 03:24:32 AM
The conditioning modern bb's achieve in their lower bodies is insane. The glutes and hams are carved out of stone.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 08, 2025, 03:24:41 AM
The only thing I can focus from this point on is his left calf which is basically completely gone (while his calves used to be super-impressive). Really f*cking up his symmetry, sad. What the heck are these guys doin'? ???

Why are you assuming they are "doing something" special to themselves for this to be happening? It just sounds like you are sort of blaming them, maybe you're not really doing that, just confused  :) I don't know how prevalent this is among non-competitors, if it's an epidemic just among bodybuilders but I suspect not.

Krankenstein is probably the one who might know more specifically what the issue is but I guess it's probably what MAXX says, a nerve issue originating from the back. Way back when some getbiggers were speculating it might be damage from injections which I doubt. It's too bad for Urs as there probably is no cure. So he probably needs to rack up some competitive successes very quickly now before it gets too bad.

I'll see if I can find a pic but Dorian has the same syndrome...
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: MAXX on September 08, 2025, 03:31:48 AM
Why are you assuming they are "doing something" special to themselves for this to be happening? It just sounds like you are sort of blaming them, maybe you're not really doing that, just confused  :) I don't know how prevalent this is among non-competitors, if it's an epidemic just among bodybuilders but I suspect not.

Krankenstein is probably the one who might know more specifically what the issue is but I guess it's probably what MAXX says, a nerve issue originating from the back. Way back when some getbiggers were speculating it might be damage from injections which I doubt. It's too bad for Urs as there probably is no cure. So he probably needs to rack up some competitive successes very quickly now before it gets too bad.

I'll see if I can find a pic but Dorian has the same syndrome...
well Dorian is 63 years old Retirement age.. All kinds of muscles disappear at that point  :D

but among active competitors it is quite common now.

Wesley Vissers also seems to show this symptoms. Lost inner calves.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 08, 2025, 03:40:11 AM
well Dorian is 63 years old Retirement age.. All kinds of muscles dispensary at that point  :D

but among active competitors it is quite common now.

Wesley Vissers also seems to show this symptoms. Lost inner calves.


And the funny thing is: It always seems to be the left calf even a bit more than the right calf ???

(https://preview.redd.it/arnold-classic-2024-classic-physique-champion-wesley-vissers-v0-qto69skuculc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=74ff3960a3997cdc1d98d6be91381ef530bcddea)

(https://i0.wp.com/www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_8989wtmrk.jpg?quality=86&strip=all)
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: dj181 on September 08, 2025, 03:45:57 AM
Everyone else looked waterlogged/or softer than baby shit.

Do these guys still diet and do cardio or is it completely all just drugs ?

It makes no sense

They could just take either winny or mast and it would dry them out very quickly
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: affeman on September 08, 2025, 04:17:48 AM
It makes no sense

They could just take either winny or mast and it would dry them out very quickly

U can't "dry out" fat
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: dj181 on September 08, 2025, 04:18:48 AM
U can't "dry out" fat

What would you put thier bodyfat at?

8-9%?
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: joswift on September 08, 2025, 05:54:55 AM
And the funny thing is: It always seems to be the left calf even a bit more than the right calf ???

(https://preview.redd.it/arnold-classic-2024-classic-physique-champion-wesley-vissers-v0-qto69skuculc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=74ff3960a3997cdc1d98d6be91381ef530bcddea)

(https://i0.wp.com/www.muscleandfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_8989wtmrk.jpg?quality=86&strip=all)

Sciatic nerve is left leg...
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: French on September 08, 2025, 08:10:45 AM
I was at the show and he easily won. Very good, charismatic, the best poser, aesthetically pleasing and massive, with a very solid lineup of strong guys.
After the show, Tim arrived at the restaurant, tanned, with big, lean arms, and the entire audience was speechless.

and yes, for those who asked Barbara's vagina was visible.

Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on September 08, 2025, 08:25:59 AM
Who's Barbara and why don't you post that photo?     ;D
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Rambone on September 08, 2025, 09:43:26 AM
Pics of Barbara’s Bush?
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: _bruce_ on September 08, 2025, 10:05:08 AM

Great frame.
He should use a reverse hyper though.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 08, 2025, 11:28:15 AM
It makes no sense

They could just take either winny or mast and it would dry them out very quickly

Taking more drugs does not dry you out e.g. adding Mast or Winny to 2 grams of test and 20iu of GH will not dry out anything, probably just binds even more water. Back in the day some competitors got off all steroids 2 weeks out, Bob  Chic even said any bb who takes roids the last 2 weeks is an idiot.

The guys today are leaner than the 90s guys. Fat isn't the issue. It's the obsession with "being full" ::)
Title: Re: Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed at the Italy Pro this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 05:32:01 PM
dorian had amazing triceps he had the best side tricep pose in the business

Indeed
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 05:34:04 PM
His arms almost doubled in size. He was def held back by the weight cap in classic :o

Wow, impressive
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 05:35:28 PM
and his skinny forearms demonstrate how he did it

I mean it was to be expected
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 05:37:27 PM
Urs looks like he has the same issues Ramy had in his midback. It looks atrophied. Don't know if it's from nerve damage or what, because it wasn't that way before. It's like that extra weight helped some parts of his physique but hurt his back.

Looking at that shot his frame can handle more mass. Not sure how much more, but definitely a fair bit.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 05:42:45 PM
Everyone else looked waterlogged/or softer than baby shit.

Do these guys still diet and do cardio or is it completely all just drugs ?

They have no natural foundation so when they diet they lose all their size. This forces them to keep the test dosages super high or they look stringy. Gotta blast diuretics and letrozole last few days to drop water, its all very hit or miss.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: jude2 on September 08, 2025, 08:15:12 PM
I forgot how good Dennis Wolf use to look.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 08:16:16 PM
Likely his calves and back will go this route and look like this in a couple of years



Ian trained like a moron and his definition and detail went out the window as a consequence.
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Methyl m1ke on September 08, 2025, 08:33:16 PM
I was at the show and he easily won. Very good, charismatic, the best poser, aesthetically pleasing and massive, with a very solid lineup of strong guys.
After the show, Tim arrived at the restaurant, tanned, with big, lean arms, and the entire audience was speechless.

and yes, for those who asked Barbara's vagina was visible.

Tim?
???
Title: Re: 2025 Italy Pro - Will Miraclebear Urs Kalecinski get destroyed this weekend?
Post by: Ron on September 08, 2025, 09:23:27 PM

Congratulations!

2025 IFBB ProMuscle Italy Men's Pro Bodybuilding - Complete Results
 

1. Urs Kalecinski - Germany   
2. Quinton Eriya   - Canada   
3. Marc Hector - UK   
4. Sergio Oliva Jr. - USA   
5. Lewis Breed - UK   
6. Matthias Hollweck - Germany
7. Theo Leguerrier - France
8. Roberto Buonomo - Italy   
9. Tim Budesheim - Germany   
10. Emir Omeragic - Germany   
11. Tomas Tabaciar - Slovakia   
12. William Martins William - Brazil   
13. Thibault Logier - Belgium   
14. Martin Hernandez - Mexico
15. Luka Mackic - Austria
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16. Andrea Bolzoni - Italy   
16. Andre Carlao - Brazil
16. Kuba Cielen - UK   
16. Hossein Kalateh - Canada
16. Moe Nsour - Germany
16. Dario Paolozzi - Italy   
16. Enrico Pietrobon - Italy
16. Manuel Santalucia  - Italy   
16. Patrick Schwizer - Switzerland