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Title: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 06, 2025, 03:52:36 AM
Lost jobs in June (first time in 4 years), only 22k in august, losing manufacturing jobs for 4 straight months, unemployment up to 4.3% thats pretty impressive the guy is outdoing himself! Job openings to unemployment ratio flipped, there are less new job opening. Dollar weakening, trade partners pivoting away, countries boycotting the states LOLOL

It's almost like you guys have a moronic vindictive sociopathic narc running the country. It's honestly pretty impressive to see what he has been able to accomplish in a few short months. Hows that isolationism going?


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0xe5dvp47o
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: loco on September 06, 2025, 04:14:23 AM
Necrosis, what has happened to you?  What's with the TDS?  Did you lose your job as an Canadian MD?  Are you a Trudeau fan and now you're mad that Trump got him fired?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 06, 2025, 04:36:10 AM
Necrosis, what has happened to you?  What's with the TDS?  Did you lose your job as an Canadian MD?  Are you a Trudeau fan and now you're mad that Trump got him fired?

lol

I think he is incredibly dumb and the US is becoming an idiocracy. It's a fun topic to talk about and gets people riled up.

Would you prefer I post in the nutrition or religious section? you let me know what you would like to see from me moving forward, thank you in advance.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 06, 2025, 06:51:17 AM
No one?

LOL

he tariffs you, taxing you while lying that that the exporter is paying the tariff (how is that 38% whole food inflation feeling?) claiming to increase manufacturing jobs by doing so and since liberation day lololol 42k jobs have been lost in manufacturing. He then touts 17 trillion in investment in the US LMAO!!

Meanwhile he just launched and rugged pulled another shit coin and is sending emails asking for 15 dollars as using religious get into heaven bullshit. His personal wealth has exploded and he is destroying your economy.

It's almost like.... he is a grifter

Brilliant stuff!!

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2025, 07:13:02 AM
So the same as every single politician before him? Including your beloved demoncrats. What exactly is your point? You let you TDS take over and you post more moronic shit than Lurker.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: GymnJuice on September 06, 2025, 07:17:08 AM
No one?

LOL

he tariffs you, taxing you while lying that that the exporter is paying the tariff (how is that 38% whole food inflation feeling?) claiming to increase manufacturing jobs by doing so and since liberation day lololol 42k jobs have been lost in manufacturing. He then touts 17 trillion in investment in the US LMAO!!

Meanwhile he just launched and rugged pulled another shit coin and is sending emails asking for 15 dollars as using religious get into heaven bullshit. His personal wealth has exploded and he is destroying your economy.

It's almost like.... he is a grifter

Brilliant stuff!!

I believe it’s fairer to tax people based on their spending rather than their income. Tariffs offer a more equitable way for the government to generate revenue compared to income taxes. And they could have significant benefits. They could stimulate domestic industry by encouraging local production. Additionally, they might prompt other countries to lower their tariffs on our goods in response. Tariffs could also encourage consumers to be more mindful of their purchases. In my view, society isn’t frugal enough. Too many people waste money on new cars every three years just to keep up with their neighbors.

I won't try to defend his alt-coin shenanigans. I don't think it is right for the president to do that.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 06, 2025, 07:55:41 AM
So the same as every single politician before him? Including your beloved demoncrats. What exactly is your point? You let you TDS take over and you post more moronic shit than Lurker.

my guy, this is all self inflicted shit.

you see the world as all or nothing, everyone is shit, all politicians are the same, no one thing is any worse than any other thing. Actively grifting the public via shitcoins is next fucking level.

There are levels to this shit and he is top dawg moron.

Honestly you need to open your eyes and start thinking in grey scale cus your avoidance of thinking hard and in a nuanced way is simply apathy.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 06, 2025, 08:38:04 AM
my guy, this is all self inflicted shit.

you see the world as all or nothing, everyone is shit, all politicians are the same, no one thing is any worse than any other thing. Actively grifting the public via shitcoins is next fucking level.

There are levels to this shit and he is top dawg moron.

Honestly you need to open your eyes and start thinking in grey scale cus your avoidance of thinking hard and in a nuanced way is simply apathy.
No, politicians are not all the same.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2025, 09:55:17 AM
my guy, this is all self inflicted shit.

you see the world as all or nothing, everyone is shit, all politicians are the same, no one thing is any worse than any other thing. Actively grifting the public via shitcoins is next fucking level.

There are levels to this shit and he is top dawg moron.

Honestly you need to open your eyes and start thinking in grey scale cus your avoidance of thinking hard and in a nuanced way is simply apathy.
Bullshit. You're only saying this because it's Trump. You were oddly silent the last several years when mentally declining Biden and whoever was controlling him was fucking things up.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 06, 2025, 10:42:57 AM
I believe it’s fairer to tax people based on their spending rather than their income. Tariffs offer a more equitable way for the government to generate revenue compared to income taxes. And they could have significant benefits. They could stimulate domestic industry by encouraging local production. Additionally, they might prompt other countries to lower their tariffs on our goods in response. Tariffs could also encourage consumers to be more mindful of their purchases. In my view, society isn’t frugal enough. Too many people waste money on new cars every three years just to keep up with their neighbors.

I won't try to defend his alt-coin shenanigans. I don't think it is right for the president to do that.

Tariffs work for protectionism in specific areas like the dairy situation with canada for example, not broad blanket tariffs, that is inherently inflationary.

Tariffs will never work to replace income tax, its too variable and when it did work there was little to no infrastructure.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 06, 2025, 02:06:01 PM
So the same as every single politician before him? Including your beloved demoncrats. What exactly is your point? You let you TDS take over and you post more moronic shit than Lurker.

Should be easy for you to refute him then.  But you haven't yet.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 06, 2025, 02:07:57 PM
No one?

LOL

he tariffs you, taxing you while lying that that the exporter is paying the tariff (how is that 38% whole food inflation feeling?) claiming to increase manufacturing jobs by doing so and since liberation day lololol 42k jobs have been lost in manufacturing. He then touts 17 trillion in investment in the US LMAO!!

Meanwhile he just launched and rugged pulled another shit coin and is sending emails asking for 15 dollars as using religious get into heaven bullshit. His personal wealth has exploded and he is destroying your economy.

It's almost like.... he is a grifter

Brilliant stuff!!

Come on now.... I heard that we were making BILLIONS of dollars through taxes tariffs that Americans other countries are paying for.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 06, 2025, 03:26:02 PM
So the same as every single politician before him? Including your beloved demoncrats. What exactly is your point? You let you TDS take over and you post more moronic shit than Lurker.
Is TDS and BDS just plain BS?

It is common for folks to complain about whichever politicians, regardless of their party affiliation, are in office at any given time. On average, only something like 4% of adults in the U.S. think the political system is satisfactory. Something like 72% of folks have a negative view of Congress.
 
Unfortunately, the majority of folks have a ‘negativity bias.’ When Biden was President, one could correctly note that most Getbig posters had BDS (Biden derangement syndrome). Now that Trump is back in office, anyone who disagrees with his policies supposedly suffers from TDS.

On the other hand, more than half of the American people have a more positive view of local politicians. I find this somewhat curious because often local politicians eventually become candidates for federal office; School Board members run for office as city and county commissioners who then become State legislators and some of these folks become Congress people.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 06, 2025, 04:53:45 PM
Is TDS and BDS just plain BS?

It is common for folks to complain about whichever politicians, regardless of their party affiliation, are in office at any given time. On average, only something like 4% of adults in the U.S. think the political system is satisfactory. Something like 72% of folks have a negative view of Congress.
 
Unfortunately, the majority of folks have a ‘negativity bias.’ When Biden was President, one could correctly note that most Getbig posters had BDS (Biden derangement syndrome). Now that Trump is back in office, anyone who disagrees with his policies supposedly suffers from TDS.

On the other hand, more than half of the American people have a more positive view of local politicians. I find this somewhat curious because often local politicians eventually become candidates for federal office; School Board members run for office as city and county commissioners who then become State legislators and some of these folks become Congress people.

TDS is real, and there's never been anything like it.

It's not simply just disliking a person in office.  It's shunning your friends, your morals, your objectivity, your, values your common sense, your dignity, etc....all in the name of hating a person.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 07, 2025, 03:40:33 AM
TDS is real, and there's never been anything like it.

It's not simply just disliking a person in office.  It's shunning your friends, your morals, your objectivity, your, values your common sense, your dignity, etc....all in the name of hating a person.

Did you see his post about Chicago? lol thats the president.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 07, 2025, 06:56:53 AM
Did you see his post about Chicago? lol thats the president.

No I didn't.

I don't hang on his every tweet like you guys do.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 07, 2025, 07:18:44 AM
No I didn't.

I don't hang on his every tweet like you guys do.

Oh ok, makes sense.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2025, 07:57:13 AM
No I didn't.

I don't hang on his every tweet like you guys do.
I've never seen a group of people more obsessed with the every movement of someone they supposedly hate. They act more like fans than haters sometimes.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 07, 2025, 08:24:48 AM
I've never seen a group of people more obsessed with the every movement of someone they supposedly hate. They act more like fans than haters sometimes.

It gives miserable or bored folks something to focus on.

And you know this - none of us 100% agree with everything this guy is doing.  But there's a point of being informed, and letting nonsensical stuff slide.  Like I started reading something funk posted the other day, got about 2 sentences in and was like "cubic zirconia cufflinks?"....yeah, fuck off, not wasting my time.

As far as the Chicago thing, I do know Trump's going back and forth with their mayor, but I can't take anything seriously until it happens.  At the end of the day, the Chicago dipshit morons replaced the putrid Lightfoot with an actual worse version, and so this is what happens.  The goal is to stop so many people shooting each other every weekend.  But that's not cool because Trump wants it.

And, you'd think the left has such a track record of being outright wrong about stuff, they'd learn.

But they don't.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 07, 2025, 08:42:35 AM
It gives miserable or bored folks something to focus on.

And you know this - none of us 100% agree with everything this guy is doing.  But there's a point of being informed, and letting nonsensical stuff slide.  Like I started reading something funk posted the other day, got about 2 sentences in and was like "cubic zirconia cufflinks?"....yeah, fuck off, not wasting my time.

As far as the Chicago thing, I do know Trump's going back and forth with their mayor, but I can't take anything seriously until it happens.  At the end of the day, the Chicago dipshit morons replaced the putrid Lightfoot with an actual worse version, and so this is what happens.  The goal is to stop so many people shooting each other every weekend.  But that's not cool because Trump wants it.

And, you'd think the left has such a track record of being outright wrong about stuff, they'd learn.

But they don't.

ya man using the military against citizens and it will only be leftist run states, cities at that under the guise of law and order is totally fine

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/unhinged-and-anti-american-critics-erupt-over-trumps-ai-generated-threat/

This is an actual post he made, fucking embarassing. It's embarassing that people excuse this behaviour.

Meanwhile, GOP run cites and states have more crime, but not a peep of course. I see you guys are fine with a vindictive petty manchild running your country.

If you are on the internet you know, there is literally no where this shit isn't posted.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 07, 2025, 09:00:20 AM
ya man using the military against citizens and it will only be leftist run states, cities at that under the guise of law and order is totally fine

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/unhinged-and-anti-american-critics-erupt-over-trumps-ai-generated-threat/

This is an actual post he made, fucking embarassing. It's embarassing that people excuse this behaviour.

Meanwhile, GOP run cites and states have more crime, but not a peep of course. I see you guys are fine with a vindictive petty manchild running your country.

If you are on the internet you know, there is literally no where this shit isn't posted.

He tweets stuff this to make folks like you react like you did.  Congrats, he owns you too.

But, once again, as far as being "fine with it"...what the fuck are we supposed to do?  I voted. That's it.  And I don't regret it at all, especially considering the alternative.

I'll let all you X Warriors tweet your days away, thinking you're making a difference.

But, if sending in the guard gets Chicago on the right path, have at it.  It might become a deterrent and get all these states, red or blue, to clean up their shit.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2025, 09:18:44 AM
ya man using the military against citizens and it will only be leftist run states, cities at that under the guise of law and order is totally fine

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/unhinged-and-anti-american-critics-erupt-over-trumps-ai-generated-threat/

This is an actual post he made, fucking embarassing. It's embarassing that people excuse this behaviour.

Meanwhile, GOP run cites and states have more crime, but not a peep of course. I see you guys are fine with a vindictive petty manchild running your country.

If you are on the internet you know, there is literally no where this shit isn't posted.
You say stupid shit just to get people to respond right? Trump isn't sending NG in to control/take over LE from leftist run states, only from cities. If those dem run cities actually enforced the law and kept their citizens safe, maybe the feds wouldn't feel the need to step in. Unbelievable that you faggot leftists are against lowering crime and making cities safer because Trump is behind it. I'm well aware that as soon as NG pulls out the shitty leftist liberal twats running these cities will just allow the crime to skyrocket as usual then try to blame Trump for the increase when in reality it's their own failures as leadership to enforce the law and keep the people safe. ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2025, 01:01:35 PM
No I didn't.

I don't hang on his every tweet like you guys do.

I don't think he tweets any longer. Especially since tweets no longer exist. X calls them posts. He did post this on Truth Social last night.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54772236675_1dcc7fff7c_w.jpg)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 07, 2025, 04:02:51 PM
I don't think he tweets any longer. Especially since tweets no longer exist. X calls them posts. He did post this on Truth Social last night.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54772236675_1dcc7fff7c_w.jpg)

Thank you, Dr. semantics.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2025, 04:42:49 PM
Thank you, Dr. semantics.

You are quite welcome. -Happy to help you out anytime. :)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: loco on September 07, 2025, 05:42:15 PM
No one?

LOL

he tariffs you, taxing you while lying that that the exporter is paying the tariff (how is that 38% whole food inflation feeling?) claiming to increase manufacturing jobs by doing so and since liberation day lololol 42k jobs have been lost in manufacturing. He then touts 17 trillion in investment in the US LMAO!!

Meanwhile he just launched and rugged pulled another shit coin and is sending emails asking for 15 dollars as using religious get into heaven bullshit. His personal wealth has exploded and he is destroying your economy.

It's almost like.... he is a grifter

Brilliant stuff!!

The US economy is just fine. You should focus on your own Canadian economy, which isn't doing so well:

Canada's economy lost 66K jobs in August, adding to BoC pressure to 'stem the bleeding in the economy'

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/canadas-economy-lost-66k-jobs-in-august-adding-to-boc-pressure-to-stem-the-bleeding-in-the-economy-140014453.html
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 07, 2025, 05:44:33 PM
Prime belongs to Truth Social?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 07, 2025, 05:48:48 PM
Prime belongs to Truth Social?
With his TDS do you expect anything less?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 07, 2025, 06:03:57 PM
Prime belongs to Truth Social?

Do not tell anyone. I would not want this to get around. Paranoid Trump might find this out and decide I am a spy then accuse me of having two or more primary residences and use the DOJ and FBI to investigate me. Worse, he could have ICE arrest me and deport me even though my ancestors have lived in this country since before the Revolutionary War… much, much longer than his family has. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 07, 2025, 06:41:27 PM
Do not tell anyone. I would not want this to get around. Paranoid Trump might find this out and decide I am a spy then accuse me of having two or more primary residences and use the DOJ and FBI to investigate me. Worse, he could have ICE arrest me and deport me even though my ancestors have lived in this country since before the Revolutionary War… much, much longer than his family has. 

 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2025, 07:09:04 PM
It’s what happens when you cut government jobs and deport illegals….as promised. Then you have a Fed Chair working against him. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 02:48:49 AM
You say stupid shit just to get people to respond right? Trump isn't sending NG in to control/take over LE from leftist run states, only from cities. If those dem run cities actually enforced the law and kept their citizens safe, maybe the feds wouldn't feel the need to step in. Unbelievable that you faggot leftists are against lowering crime and making cities safer because Trump is behind it. I'm well aware that as soon as NG pulls out the shitty leftist liberal twats running these cities will just allow the crime to skyrocket as usual then try to blame Trump for the increase when in reality it's their own failures as leadership to enforce the law and keep the people safe. ::)

This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol OK how about the fact that the most crime ridden cites are red and in particular the increase in rate is higer? if this was because of crime wouldn;t you logically start with the most dangerous cities and states or at least ones with increasing crime rates at the highest percentile?

Also, how the fuck will this lower crime? in the short term, maybe, who knows. In the long term what benefit would this temporary retarded action have?

I love how you conflate arguing against sending the military in to a city that doesn't want it when the logic of why its being done doesnt check out and the person doing it is a vindictive little manchild.

Just go along with daddy lil boy. You will do what trump says and defend him till the end. You are happy to unleash the government on fellow citizens if they think differently than you, typical narc behaviour.

Enjoy the mcarthyism/isolationism
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 12:01:41 PM
The US economy is just fine. You should focus on your own Canadian economy, which isn't doing so well:

Canada's economy lost 66K jobs in August, adding to BoC pressure to 'stem the bleeding in the economy'

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/canadas-economy-lost-66k-jobs-in-august-adding-to-boc-pressure-to-stem-the-bleeding-in-the-economy-140014453.html

Ya its pretty shit. No one cares about Canada. So there is no point talking about it. I am interested in the melts and retards.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: loco on September 08, 2025, 12:21:33 PM
Ya its pretty shit. No one cares about Canada. So there is no point talking about it.

 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 12:32:28 PM
This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol OK how about the fact that the most crime ridden cites are red and in particular the increase in rate is higer? if this was because of crime wouldn;t you logically start with the most dangerous cities and states or at least ones with increasing crime rates at the highest percentile?

Also, how the fuck will this lower crime? in the short term, maybe, who knows. In the long term what benefit would this temporary retarded action have?

I love how you conflate arguing against sending the military in to a city that doesn't want it when the logic of why its being done doesnt check out and the person doing it is a vindictive little manchild.

Just go along with daddy lil boy. You will do what trump says and defend him till the end. You are happy to unleash the government on fellow citizens if they think differently than you, typical narc behaviour.

Enjoy the mcarthyism/isolationism

If you're going to go through drastic actions like utilizing the military (which has not happened yet), you want to focus on the spots with the highest number of violent crimes.  Per capita rate is not as important as the absolute number in this case.  If you do that, Chicago is near the top of the list.  So why it might not be the very highest, it's a good place to start.

And I took these numbers based on violent crimes.  I did not break it down to shootings, so I'm not sure where it lands.  Chicago, Houston, and Memphis all seem to be awful.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2025, 01:18:05 PM
This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol OK how about the fact that the most crime ridden cites are red and in particular the increase in rate is higer? if this was because of crime wouldn;t you logically start with the most dangerous cities and states or at least ones with increasing crime rates at the highest percentile?

Also, how the fuck will this lower crime? in the short term, maybe, who knows. In the long term what benefit would this temporary retarded action have?

I love how you conflate arguing against sending the military in to a city that doesn't want it when the logic of why its being done doesnt check out and the person doing it is a vindictive little manchild.

Just go along with daddy lil boy. You will do what trump says and defend him till the end. You are happy to unleash the government on fellow citizens if they think differently than you, typical narc behaviour.

Enjoy the mcarthyism/isolationism

I missed this. Are you trying to rationalize the NG coming in to crime ridden blue cities with incompetent "leadership" to help stop crime and murders?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 01:25:43 PM
I missed this. Are you trying to rationalize the NG coming in to crime ridden blue cities with incompetent "leadership" to help stop crime and murders?

It won't stop anything though.

Why would it? The crime is a function of inequality and poverty, I would imagine the crime rate is highest in the "inner city".

If you think sending the NG to cities in the states is fine when civilians do not want that then we simply disagree. It would be quite easy to weaponize this tactic.

It will hurt the economy of the city just like DC as well. It also costs an arm and a leg and has not been shown to do anything.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2025, 01:27:20 PM
I don't think he tweets any longer. Especially since tweets no longer exist. X calls them posts. He did post this on Truth Social last night.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54772236675_1dcc7fff7c_w.jpg)

Love it...trolls better than anyone I've ever seen on any platform. Knows how to drive the weak minded left absolutely crazy and how to trigger them. It's exactly why the democrat party is failing. The TDS is just too much. They're mental weakness will their demise
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 01:33:16 PM
This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol OK how about the fact that the most crime ridden cites are red and in particular the increase in rate is higer? if this was because of crime wouldn;t you logically start with the most dangerous cities and states or at least ones with increasing crime rates at the highest pe rates at the highest percentile?


Really?  Which specific cities are you talking about?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 01:40:22 PM
Really?  Which specific cities are you talking about?

The per capita rates are higher in plenty of other cities besides Chicago.

But for absolute numbers, Chicago is one of the top in violent crime, which was the point I made a few posts up.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2025, 01:44:39 PM
It won't stop anything though.

Why would it? The crime is a function of inequality and poverty, I would imagine the crime rate is highest in the "inner city".

If you think sending the NG to cities in the states is fine when civilians do not want that then we simply disagree. It would be quite easy to weaponize this tactic.

It will hurt the economy of the city just like DC as well. It also costs an arm and a leg and has not been shown to do anything.

Murial Bowser praised Trump for making DC safer and raising the moral of the Metro Police to do their job. Brandon Johnson is literally polling at 13% and the number one issue in Chicago is crime and people want the NG come in and clean it up. You have high crime in all of these blue ran cities because of defunding PD's and DA's not doing their job in prosecuting criminals only to be released to have them commit the same crimes. Case in point and this isn't isolated. The person who murdered the Ukrainian girl on the bus had 14 previous arrests with a bunch of them being felonies then released on cashless bail.

In short, you don't what you're talking about and as usual, repeat leftist talking points.

1. Start arresting and convicting. Try violent minors in adult courts and convict them as adults

2. Start issuing CCW to law abiding citizens and speed up the process per Bruen

3. Fund the PD's, don't give stand down orders when attacked. Hire and full and capable police force and saturate higher crime areas.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 01:49:58 PM
Murial Bowser praised Trump for making DC safer and raising the moral of the Metro Police to do their job. Brandon Johnson is literally polling at 13% and the number one issue in Chicago is crime and people want the NG come in and clean it up. You have high crime in all of these blue ran cities because of defunding PD's and DA's not doing their job in prosecuting criminals only to be released to have them commit the same crimes. Case in point and this isn't isolated. The person who murdered the Ukrainian girl on the bus had 14 previous arrests with a bunch of them being felonies then released on cashless bail.

In short, you don't what you're talking about and as usual, repeat leftist talking points.

1. Start arresting and convicting. Try violent minors in adult courts and convict them as adults

2. Start issuing CCW to law abiding citizens and speed up the process per Bruen

3. Fund the PD's, don't give stand down orders when attacked. Hire and full and capable police force and saturate higher crime areas.

The highest crime rate cities or states better yet are RED.

What polls are you using?

You are cherry picking one case as well, without context for the overall picture it's meaningless.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 01:52:30 PM
Love it...trolls better than anyone I've ever seen on any platform. Knows how to drive the weak minded left absolutely crazy and how to trigger them. It's exactly why the democrat party is failing. The TDS is just too much. They're mental weakness will their demise

It's childish, immature and unbecoming of a man his age and in his position. Ya let's troll as the president.

Dude he is a narc, no one is mentally weaker lolol. he is a petty petulant man child.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 01:54:50 PM
The per capita rates are higher in plenty of other cities besides Chicago.

But for absolute numbers, Chicago is one of the top in violent crime, which was the point I made a few posts up.

My understanding is the cities with the biggest crime problems have Democrat mayors.  But maybe I'm missing something, which is why I asked him which specific cities he is talking about. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 02:04:58 PM
If you're going to go through drastic actions like utilizing the military (which has not happened yet), you want to focus on the spots with the highest number of violent crimes.  Per capita rate is not as important as the absolute number in this case.  If you do that, Chicago is near the top of the list.  So why it might not be the very highest, it's a good place to start.

And I took these numbers based on violent crimes.  I did not break it down to shootings, so I'm not sure where it lands.  Chicago, Houston, and Memphis all seem to be awful.

Sure, but I suspect that's not trumps logic, its incredibly drastic (has it been done before for this reason?).

i realize Chicago is near the top of the list, I suspect it was chosen based on its politics though. I guess we will see if he does this and what cities he targets. If I am right then there is a slippery slope.


Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 02:09:57 PM
Murial Bowser praised Trump for making DC safer and raising the moral of the Metro Police to do their job. Brandon Johnson is literally polling at 13% and the number one issue in Chicago is crime and people want the NG come in and clean it up. You have high crime in all of these blue ran cities because of defunding PD's and DA's not doing their job in prosecuting criminals only to be released to have them commit the same crimes. Case in point and this isn't isolated. The person who murdered the Ukrainian girl on the bus had 14 previous arrests with a bunch of them being felonies then released on cashless bail.

In short, you don't what you're talking about and as usual, repeat leftist talking points.

1. Start arresting and convicting. Try violent minors in adult courts and convict them as adults

2. Start issuing CCW to law abiding citizens and speed up the process per Bruen

3. Fund the PD's, don't give stand down orders when attacked. Hire and full and capable police force and saturate higher crime areas.

I will say I am impressed with this post lol I didn't think you had this in you, I won't lie.

Kudos.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2025, 02:26:45 PM
Love it...trolls better than anyone I've ever seen on any platform. Knows how to drive the weak minded left absolutely crazy and how to trigger them. It's exactly why the democrat party is failing. The TDS is just too much. They're mental weakness will their demise

It is no surprise that you love Trump's trolling and ignore how inappropriate it is for someone in his position. Trolling is attention-seeking behavior. Trump is a person who intentionally causes trouble, spreads negativity, and takes pleasure from causing other folks’ distress. His trolling is childish behavior. Good leadership is serious adult business. You admire a clown who is not a leader and never will be ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 02:39:48 PM
My understanding is the cities with the biggest crime problems have Democrat mayors.  But maybe I'm missing something, which is why I asked him which specific cities he is talking about.

per capita there are a lot of cities higher then Chicago.

Regardless this method isn't scalable, hasn't been shown to lead to meaningful reduction long term, causes huge impacts across multiple markers and is quite costly. It also opens up weaponizing the military and I am shocked that small government right wingers want the federal government stepping in, in any capacity.



Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 02:52:17 PM
Sure, but I suspect that's not trumps logic, its incredibly drastic (has it been done before for this reason?).

i realize Chicago is near the top of the list, I suspect it was chosen based on its politics though. I guess we will see if he does this and what cities he targets. If I am right then there is a slippery slope.

I have no doubt Chicago's politics affected this.

However, I do think SOMETHING has to be done.  So, if you have a city with big numbers (not per capita) near the top of the list, coupled with a shitty loud mouthed mayor whose approval ratings are in the tank who you can embarrass, why not start there?  Politics exists, for better or worse.

The only other way I might do it is to send in the guard in partnership with a red state governor, have crime rates drop, and then say "see you blue dipshits, it works".

But that's not my choice to make, so Chicago it is.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2025, 02:53:13 PM
It is no surprise that you love Trump's trolling and ignore how inappropriate it is for someone in his position. Trolling is attention-seeking behavior. Trump is a person who intentionally causes trouble, spreads negativity, and takes pleasure from causing other folks’ distress. His trolling is childish behavior. Good leadership is serious adult business. You admire a clown who is not a leader and never will be ::)


He does it to wind up Loony Leftist Libturds & it works every time 😂🤣😂
Just look at yourself/ Necrosis of the Brain / LurkingForBoys etc
Always frothing at the mouth about DONALD he said this / he did this etc
If I were Donald I'd be laughing all day every day at how easy it is to upset
You morons- If you lot had an iota of sense between you you'd all ignore Him &
He'd very likely stop it.
The fact that you're all 24/7 obsessed with anything he says / posts or does
Goes to show how much TDS you all have.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 02:54:08 PM
per capita there are a lot of cities higher then Chicago.

Regardless this method isn't scalable, hasn't been shown to lead to meaningful reduction long term, causes huge impacts across multiple markers and is quite costly. It also opens up weaponizing the military and I am shocked that small government right wingers want the federal government stepping in, in any capacity.

Which specific cities have the highest crime rates? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 03:07:25 PM
Which specific cities have the highest crime rates?

Per capita its several Alabama cities, Alaska and Arizona.

For violent crime totals it appears to be houston, stockton, nashville, rockford, tacoma

Anchorage is rape
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2025, 03:13:38 PM
Which specific cities have the highest crime rates?

According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates.
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state – red city
Detroit, Michigan – purple state – blue city
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state – blue city
St. Louis, Missouri – red state – blue city
Jackson, Mississippi – red state – battle ground
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state – blue city
Cleveland, Ohio – red state – blue city

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 03:14:44 PM
Per capita its several Alabama cities, Alaska and Arizona.

For violent crime totals it appears to be houston, stockton, nashville, rockford, tacoma

Anchorage is rape

Houston, Stockton, Nashville, Rockford, and Tacoma all have Democrat mayors. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 03:15:12 PM
According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates:
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state
Detroit, Michigan – purple state
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state
St. Louis, Missouri – red state
Jackson, Mississippi – red state
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state
Cleveland, Ohio – red state

Which of those cities have Democrat mayors?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 03:22:31 PM
Houston, Stockton, Nashville, Rockford, and Tacoma all have Democrat mayors.

Ya thats the highest violent crime cities per capita. For overall crime its heavily red leaning. Property theft, B and E etc..

My point is that I suspect this is politically motivated and there are equally (perhaps better) reasonable targets with higher crime rates.

I would also suspect one should base it on the direction of crime rates, are they decreasing, increasing etc.

I will say grape ape has swayed me a little on this tbf
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 03:32:27 PM
Ya thats the highest violent crime cities per capita. For overall crime its heavily red leaning. Property theft, B and E etc..

My point is that I suspect this is politically motivated and there are equally (perhaps better) reasonable targets with higher crime rates.

I would also suspect one should base it on the direction of crime rates, are they decreasing, increasing etc.

I will say grape ape has swayed me a little on this tbf

The cities run by Democrat mayors are the problem.  But politicians are being intellectually dishonest by citing red "states," rather than the the cities, where mayors have a much greater impact on crime than governors.  What the facts show is a disproportionate number of cities run by Democrats are infested with crime. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 03:41:06 PM
The cities run by Democrat mayors are the problem.  But politicians are being intellectually dishonest by citing red "states," rather than the the cities, where mayors have a much greater impact on crime than governors.  What the facts show is a disproportionate number of cities run by Democrats are infested with crime.

I don't believe that is true if you are talking about overall crime though.

I would have to look through it in more detail.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 03:45:20 PM
Which of those cities have Democrat mayors?

Quick look at Memphis, NO, and Cleveland all Democrats
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 03:47:58 PM
I don't believe that is true if you are talking about overall crime though.

I would have to look through it in more detail.

I think most people are referring to violent crime when they cite these statistics. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 03:51:35 PM
Quick look at Memphis, NO, and Cleveland all Democrats

Yeah not surprising.  Thanks. 

I have a former employee who moved from Hawaii to San Francisco a couple years ago.  She and her husband are both Democrats.  After they got settled she and her husband were shocked at how bad the crime and homelessness is.  She actually said her husband and she agreed that this would not be a problem if they were in a red city.  Now that is when reality really hits you in the face.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 08, 2025, 04:00:21 PM
I think most people are referring to violent crime when they cite these statistics.


I wouldn't and didn't think that is what people were referring to. However, I would venture its more impactful, violent crime that is.

Regardless I think its a silly idea.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 05:06:19 PM
Yeah not surprising.  Thanks. 

I have a former employee who moved from Hawaii to San Francisco a couple years ago.  She and her husband are both Democrats.  After they got settled she and her husband were shocked at how bad the crime and homelessness is.  She actually said her husband and she agreed that this would not be a problem if they were in a red city.  Now that is when reality really hits you in the face.

Getting rid of crime is something that should be a bipartisan endeavor.

But the correction pendulum swung too far when the bail reform hit, crimes stopped getting prosecuted, defund the police, etc..........and thus we are now divided.

No democrat will dare partner with Trump, so we may be stuck for awhile.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 05:08:37 PM
Getting rid of crime is something that should be a bipartisan endeavor.

But the correction pendulum swung too far when the bail reform hit, crimes stopped getting prosecuted, defund the police, etc..........and thus we are now divided.

No democrat will dare partner with Trump, so we may be stuck for awhile.

I agree. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 08, 2025, 05:34:30 PM
According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates.
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state – red city – mayor is Democratic
Detroit, Michigan – purple state – blue city – mayor is Unaffiliated
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state – blue city –  mayor is Democratic
St. Louis, Missouri – red state – blue city --  mayor is Democratic
Jackson, Mississippi – red state – battle ground – mayor is Democratic
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic
Cleveland, Ohio – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic

In January 2025, sixty-five of the 100 largest cities had Democratic mayors and twenty-five of the 100 largest cities had Republican mayors.

You moved the goal posts, (criterion). What you originally asked was,
Which specific cities have the highest crime rates?

You did not ask about either the state or city political leanings, or which party the mayor of the city is affiliated with. Also, mayoral races may be either partisan or non-partisan. Will this be your next question, (deflection)?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 08, 2025, 06:13:10 PM
According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates.
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state – red city – mayor is Democratic
Detroit, Michigan – purple state – blue city – mayor is Unaffiliated
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state – blue city –  mayor is Democratic
St. Louis, Missouri – red state – blue city --  mayor is Democratic
Jackson, Mississippi – red state – battle ground – mayor is Democratic
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic
Cleveland, Ohio – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic

In January 2025, sixty-five of the 100 largest cities had Democratic mayors and twenty-five of the 100 largest cities had Republican mayors.

You moved the goal posts, (criterion). What you originally asked was, 
You did not ask about either the state or city political leanings, or which party the mayor of the city is affiliated with. Also, mayoral races may be either partisan or non-partisan. Will this be your next question, (deflection)?

He wasn't deflecting.  He was continuing the conversation.

The cities that are in the shit are mostly run by democrats.

And it's not surprising to any thinking person.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 08, 2025, 06:14:51 PM
According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates.
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state – red city – mayor is Democratic
Detroit, Michigan – purple state – blue city – mayor is Unaffiliated
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state – blue city –  mayor is Democratic
St. Louis, Missouri – red state – blue city --  mayor is Democratic
Jackson, Mississippi – red state – battle ground – mayor is Democratic
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic
Cleveland, Ohio – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic

In January 2025, sixty-five of the 100 largest cities had Democratic mayors and twenty-five of the 100 largest cities had Republican mayors.

You moved the goal posts, (criterion). What you originally asked was, 
You did not ask about either the state or city political leanings, or which party the mayor of the city is affiliated with. Also, mayoral races may be either partisan or non-partisan. Will this be your next question, (deflection)?

No questions.  Just read Grape Ape's post and learn.   :)

He wasn't deflecting.  He was continuing the conversation.

The cities that are in the shit are mostly run by democrats.

And it's not surprising to any thinking person.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 08, 2025, 06:33:28 PM
This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol
I stopped reading here, I assume the rest of your post is stupid as fuck. Yes, if the local government has lost control of criminals, is incapable of controlling the criminal population or complicate in the criminal element, then the feds should step in and take control to knock the criminal aspect down. Once they leave it's up to the local government to maintain the peace and control that was established. If your local government cannot stop or control the criminal element, then maybe they should be replaced with people that take control of criminals.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 08, 2025, 06:38:14 PM
This is moronic, your rationale is the crime is out of control thus you need to sed the military in lolol OK how about the fact that the most crime ridden cites are red and in particular the increase in rate is higer? if this was because of crime wouldn;t you logically start with the most dangerous cities and states or at least ones with increasing crime rates at the highest percentile?

Also, how the fuck will this lower crime? in the short term, maybe, who knows. In the long term what benefit would this temporary retarded action have?

I love how you conflate arguing against sending the military in to a city that doesn't want it when the logic of why its being done doesnt check out and the person doing it is a vindictive little manchild.

Just go along with daddy lil boy. You will do what trump says and defend him till the end. You are happy to unleash the government on fellow citizens if they think differently than you, typical narc behaviour.

Enjoy the mcarthyism/isolationism

'thus you need to sed the military in'   🤡
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 09, 2025, 03:54:58 AM
I stopped reading here, I assume the rest of your post is stupid as fuck. Yes, if the local government has lost control of criminals, is incapable of controlling the criminal population or complicate in the criminal element, then the feds should step in and take control to knock the criminal aspect down. Once they leave it's up to the local government to maintain the peace and control that was established. If your local government cannot stop or control the criminal element, then maybe they should be replaced with people that take control of criminals.

LOL

All those years where this shit went along just fine and now you need the military. Stop, it's a stupid plan that won;t do shit and if you think its about crime then you haven't been paying attention to what Trump is doing.

Let's see what happens. I am sure he will lie like he does about literally everything else. The guy just gaslights the populace.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 09, 2025, 03:55:30 AM
'thus you need to sed the military in'   🤡


I have more chores for you, are you down?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2025, 10:13:23 AM
According to 2024 FBI data these were the cities with  the highest crime rates.
Memphis, Tennessee – red  state – red city – mayor is Democratic
Detroit, Michigan – purple state – blue city – mayor is Unaffiliated
Baltimore, Maryland – blue state – blue city –  mayor is Democratic
St. Louis, Missouri – red state – blue city --  mayor is Democratic
Jackson, Mississippi – red state – battle ground – mayor is Democratic
New Orleans, Louisiana – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic
Cleveland, Ohio – red state – blue city – mayor is Democratic

In January 2025, sixty-five of the 100 largest cities had Democratic mayors and twenty-five of the 100 largest cities had Republican mayors.

You moved the goal posts, (criterion). What you originally asked was, 
You did not ask about either the state or city political leanings, or which party the mayor of the city is affiliated with. Also, mayoral races may be either partisan or non-partisan. Will this be your next question, (deflection)?

I'm not as diplomatic nor do I have the patience as Dos or Grape which is why stupid crap like this pisses me off. This is either 1. a leftist talking point or 2. You're really this ignorant.

If you're not ignorant you know damn well blue ran cities in red states are the problem, not just red states in general. Most all of the major dem ran cities even in the red states are the problems. You don't see cashless bail, DA's not prosecuting, catch and release criminals (N.Carolina anyone?), sanctuary cities, etc in red ran cities. In my city it's specifically noted that we are not a sanctuary city.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2025, 11:35:37 AM
He wasn't deflecting.  He was continuing the conversation.

The cities that are in the shit are mostly run by democrats.

And it's not surprising to any thinking person.

Thanks for your opinion. I guess you could say when one follows up a question with additional questions that could have been asked originally since they all relate to that first question, it is continuing the conversation. It seems to me it would be easier and more honest to simply ask the question you meant to in the first place instead of asking it in drips and dribbles.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 09, 2025, 06:05:56 PM
LOL

All those years where this shit went along just fine and now you need the military.
Obviously the shit wasn't going along just fine or the feds wouldn't have to step in. ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 09, 2025, 07:32:35 PM
Obviously the shit wasn't going along just fine or the feds wouldn't have to step in. ::)


Thats the Loony Libturds Mentality & Thinking on display.
Bunch of 🤡s
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 10, 2025, 02:40:25 AM
Obviously the shit wasn't going along just fine or the feds wouldn't have to step in. ::)

Just like DC, crime was spiraling out of control increasing to never before seen levels!

Bro is rooting for military occupation of his own country lolol.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 10, 2025, 05:53:34 PM
Just like DC, crime was spiraling out of control increasing to never before seen levels!

Bro is rooting for military occupation of his own country lolol.
Not the country, just democrat run cities where the mayors have allowed crime and drugs to take over.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 04:19:39 AM
Not the country, just democrat run cities where the mayors have allowed crime and drugs to take over.

What do you think crime is a function of?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 11, 2025, 12:09:53 PM
What do you think crime is a function of?
Poor upbringing.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 12:46:07 PM
Poor upbringing.

probably one of the main ones.

So you don't think poverty contributes?

I think sociopathic behaviours have a huge genetics component but that would be a fraction of the populace.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 01:29:21 PM
Poor upbringing.



Poor upbringing
Being Black
Low intelligence
Low impulse control
Poverty ( likely has some impact on many)
Gang culture/ Mentality
No self respect or for their parents let alone other people
Easily influenced

To name a few.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 11, 2025, 01:33:35 PM


Poor upbringing
Being Black
Low intelligence
Low impulse control
Poverty ( likely has some impact on many)
Gang culture/ Mentality
No self respect or for their parents let alone other people
Easily influenced

To name a few.

Ahh so your a racist!

what about jesus, would jesus save them? do you have any thoughts on jesus?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 11, 2025, 06:48:45 PM
probably one of the main ones.

So you don't think poverty contributes?

I think sociopathic behaviours have a huge genetics component but that would be a fraction of the populace.
No. Plenty of people live in poverty that aren't thieves, violent or drug addicts. There is one demographic that contributes the most crime because it's cool to be ghetto. ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 11, 2025, 08:55:47 PM
No. Plenty of people live in poverty that aren't thieves, violent or drug addicts. There is one demographic that contributes the most crime because it's cool to be ghetto. ::)


Yes that demographic is Being Black. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2025, 11:27:02 PM
probably one of the main ones.

So you don't think poverty contributes?

I think sociopathic behaviours have a huge genetics component but that would be a fraction of the populace.

Most of the people who are having problems (lack of education, committing crime, etc.) come from either poor families or broken homes.  Socio-economic status and the absence of fathers in the home are the main contributors.  Race has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 12, 2025, 12:16:33 AM
Most of the people who are having problems (lack of education, committing crime, etc.) come from either poor families or broken homes.  Socio-economic status and the absence of fathers in the home are the main contributors.  Race has nothing to do with it.
Race is the biggest predictor of socio-economic status.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 12, 2025, 12:20:37 AM
Most of the people who are having problems (lack of education, committing crime, etc.) come from either poor families or broken homes.  Socio-economic status and the absence of fathers in the home are the main contributors.  Race has nothing to do with it.

Have to disagree - Race has a lot to do with it.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 12, 2025, 12:43:10 AM
Race is the biggest predictor of socio-economic status.

Have to disagree - Race has a lot to do with it.

Nah.  There is nothing genetic about socio-economic status, crime, success, etc.  No person is going to succeed, commit crime, or fail because their ethnic background forces them to do so.  You can take any kid and plug him or her into a certain environment and largely predict what will happen with their life.  For example, a kid, regardless of race, from a two-parent household with educated parents, in a normal relationship, is unlikely to produce a child who turns out to be a thug.  Not every kid from a broken home is a thug, but the overwhelming majority of bad actors and poor performers come from similar socio-economic backgrounds, regardless of race or ethnicity. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:10:15 AM
No. Plenty of people live in poverty that aren't thieves, violent or drug addicts. There is one demographic that contributes the most crime because it's cool to be ghetto. ::)

again, just because plenty of people live in poverty and dont commit crime does not mean poverty increases crime rate. Poverty obviously increases crime rate.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:11:06 AM
Most of the people who are having problems (lack of education, committing crime, etc.) come from either poor families or broken homes.  Socio-economic status and the absence of fathers in the home are the main contributors.  Race has nothing to do with it.

I didn't say anything about race, your fellow righties are the racists
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 04:24:45 AM
LOOKS LIKE INFLATION IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 12, 2025, 08:06:33 AM
Nah.  There is nothing genetic about socio-economic status, crime, success, etc.  No person is going to succeed, commit crime, or fail because their ethnic background forces them to do so.  You can take any kid and plug him or her into a certain environment and largely predict what will happen with their life.  For example, a kid, regardless of race, from a two-parent household with educated parents, in a normal relationship, is unlikely to produce a child who turns out to be a thug.  Not every kid from a broken home is a thug, but the overwhelming majority of bad actors and poor performers come from similar socio-economic backgrounds, regardless of race or ethnicity.
Then why is every black country or even neighborhood a shithole?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 08:27:01 AM
The U.S. is kicking the world's ass economically.
The EU is foundering.
Britain and France seeking a bailout from the World Bank.
Germany on the ropes after dismantling their energy grid.
Their industrial base wrecked.
Highest energy costs ever in Europe and Britain.
No more cheap Russian natural gas EVER for the EU.
All Russian nat gas to go to China and India by pipeline.
Only expensive LNG gas from U.S. for the EU and Britain.
Meanwhile Britain and EU send $billions to Ukraine and buy weapons from U.S.
U.S. makes huge profits.
Canada bowed down to Trump over tariffs.
Trump puts America First.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: funk51 on September 12, 2025, 10:06:34 AM
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-financial-disclosure-crypto-merchandise-b2770217.html                                             Trump puts America First   =   Trump puts Trump first.  Trumpism 101 = Ask not what you can do for your country but what you can do for TRUMP.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 11:44:01 AM
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-financial-disclosure-crypto-merchandise-b2770217.html                                             Trump puts America First   =   Trump puts Trump first.  Trumpism 101 = Ask not what you can do for your country but what you can do for TRUMP.

Maybe that zinc factory in your town will start up again (with proper environmental controls) and bring jobs and get people off the dole

http://.  https://www.abandonedamerica.us/new-jersey-zinc

Palmerton, PA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmerton,_Pennsylvania

The median income for a household in the borough was $31,522, and the median income for a family was $36,967. Males had a median income of $31,278 versus $21,781 for females. The per capita income for the borough was $16,225. About 8.5% of families and 10.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 16.5% of those under age 18 and 10.2% of those age 65 or over.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 11:46:53 AM
The U.S. is kicking the world's ass economically.
The EU is foundering.
Britain and France seeking a bailout from the World Bank.
Germany on the ropes after dismantling their energy grid.
Their industrial base wrecked.
Highest energy costs ever in Europe and Britain.
No more cheap Russian natural gas EVER for the EU.
All Russian nat gas to go to China and India by pipeline.
Only expensive LNG gas from U.S. for the EU and Britain.
Meanwhile Britain and EU send $billions to Ukraine and buy weapons from U.S.
U.S. makes huge profits.
Canada bowed down to Trump over tariffs.
Trump puts America First.

It's floundering ftr and his isolationist policies will be the downfall of the states. China is forming new alliances because of this and other countries are moving away from you, including mexico and canada.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 11:52:16 AM
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17 trillion in investment. must be what zuckerberg told him. how much? ahhh 17 gazillion dear leader!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 11:52:25 AM
It's floundering ftr and his isolationist policies will be the downfall of the states. China is forming new alliances because of this and other countries are moving away from you, including mexico and canada.

Hardly.  Eat your heart out up there in Canada.
How is it doctoring up there with that lousy nationalized health system?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 12:18:25 PM
Hardly.  Eat your heart out up there in Canada.
How is it doctoring up there with that lousy nationalized health system?


Ok let see how the economy keeps on. It's not looking great so far!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: funk51 on September 12, 2025, 12:30:49 PM
Maybe that zinc factory in your town will start up again (with proper environmental controls) and bring jobs and get people off the dole

http://.  https://www.abandonedamerica.us/new-jersey-zinc

Palmerton, PA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmerton,_Pennsylvania

The median income for a household in the borough was $31,522, and the median income for a family was $36,967. Males had a median income of $31,278 versus $21,781 for females. The per capita income for the borough was $16,225. About 8.5% of families and 10.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 16.5% of those under age 18 and 10.2% of those age 65 or over.

Not ever going to happen, just like Trump was going to bring coal mining back to pa. along with black lung and mine fires see centralia pa.  Centralia, PA, is a nearly abandoned town in Pennsylvania that became a ghost town after an underground coal mine fire started in 1962 and has been burning for decades. The fire, believed to be caused by igniting an open coal seam, has led to toxic gases, ground collapses, and sinkholes, forcing the government to buy out most of the residents in the 1980s. While a few residents remain, the town is officially condemned, with most buildings demolished and the local highway covered with dirt to discourage visitors. GOOD TIMES :'(
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on September 12, 2025, 12:41:18 PM
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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 12:45:08 PM
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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 12, 2025, 01:33:34 PM
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I've said something similar here - Trump is betting on growth, and if it hits, 2026 will be a banner year.

It will be great to see how the left will spin it as a bad thing.....
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 01:40:28 PM
I've said something similar here - Trump is betting on growth, and if it hits, 2026 will be a banner year.

It will be great to see how the left will spin it as a bad thing.....

I would be happy if it did. I have a ton of investment in US shit and the market and it would be a win for me. I highly doubt its going to happen based on all the actions he is taking.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 12, 2025, 01:45:41 PM
I would be happy if it did. I have a ton of investment in US shit and the market and it would be a win for me. I highly doubt its going to happen based on all the actions he is taking.

Do you follow the stock market?
The market is at all time highs so you must be thrilled.
Instead your complaining.
Don't be naive enough to not expect market ups and downs in the future.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 12, 2025, 01:51:43 PM
I would be happy if it did. I have a ton of investment in US shit and the market and it would be a win for me. I highly doubt its going to happen based on all the actions he is taking.

I think it will.

Just figuring out best position to take to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 02:12:22 PM
Do you follow the stock market?
The market is at all time highs so you must be thrilled.
Instead your complaining.
Don't be naive enough to not expect market ups and downs in the future.


I am happy when it goes down, I buy. However, I would love for it to go higher, which of course it will. However, if the economy shits the bed and companies start posting bad quarters there could be stagnation.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: deadz on September 12, 2025, 03:00:14 PM

I am happy when it goes down, I buy. However, I would love for it to go higher, which of course it will. However, if the economy shits the bed and companies start posting bad quarters there could be stagnation.
GET a job! Stop living of the Canadian Govt you shitbag!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 03:09:47 PM
GET a job! Stop living of the Canadian Govt you shitbag!

i have a spinal injury and am paralyzed from the upper lip down.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2025, 03:09:53 PM
I've said something similar here - Trump is betting on growth, and if it hits, 2026 will be a banner year.

It will be great to see how the left will spin it as a bad thing.....

No doubt you will locate someone left or left leaning to fulfill your forecast about them spinning economic growth as something bad. As you seek, so shall you find.

Economic growth with very little or no inflation would be excellent, IMO
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 12, 2025, 03:26:42 PM
Then why is every black country or even neighborhood a shithole?

I don't know if that's true.  I doubt it.  But the ones that are bad likely have the same problems as any other s-hole place. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2025, 05:12:37 PM
Poor upbringing.

Of course we do not yet know the details of his childhood, but do you suppose 22-year-old Tyler Robinson's horrendous murder of Charlie Kirk is a result of a poor upbringing?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2025, 05:13:36 PM
again, just because plenty of people live in poverty and dont commit crime does not mean poverty increases crime rate. Poverty obviously increases crime rate.
Huh? Why would someone's financial status cause them to commit crime ???
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 12, 2025, 05:24:17 PM
Huh? Why would someone's financial status cause them to commit crime ???

struggle, mental health impact, desperation etc.. its a well known contributor. It's not even debatable
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 12, 2025, 05:48:18 PM
Huh? Why would someone's financial status cause them to commit crime ???

It depends in part why they are impoverished. Also, this may depend on the crime itself. Some people living in poverty have lost all hope and believe they have nothing to lose by committing a crime, say of theft, for example. Also, some people who live in poverty choose to blame others and not themselves for their situation. This can lead to them believing the other folks causing their poverty, deserve whatever they get.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on September 12, 2025, 06:30:03 PM
Huh? Why would someone's financial status cause them to commit crime ???
Robber Barons?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 12, 2025, 06:37:11 PM
struggle, mental health impact, desperation etc.. its a well known contributor. It's not even debatable
Sounds like an excuse to be a piece of shit. Money doesn't make someone a good person. You're downplaying the necessity of a father figure and discipline in the household.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 13, 2025, 01:47:56 AM
Nah.  There is nothing genetic about socio-economic status, crime, success, etc.  No person is going to succeed, commit crime, or fail because their ethnic background forces them to do so.  You can take any kid and plug him or her into a certain environment and largely predict what will happen with their life.  For example, a kid, regardless of race, from a two-parent household with educated parents, in a normal relationship, is unlikely to produce a child who turns out to be a thug.  Not every kid from a broken home is a thug, but the overwhelming majority of bad actors and poor performers come from similar socio-economic backgrounds, regardless of race or ethnicity.



Blacks - crime statistics over & over again show who are the trouble makers
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2025, 03:00:19 AM


Blacks - crime statistics over & over again show who are the trouble makers

In context, they prove my point.  Plus race-based statistics are pretty meaningless. 

Overall, if you're trying to say that any race or ethnic group has some genetic predisposition to crime then you have no scientific basis to prove that point.  It also doesn't address the actual root causes of crime, which starts in the home, regardless of race. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 13, 2025, 04:16:56 AM
Sounds like an excuse to be a piece of shit. Money doesn't make someone a good person. You're downplaying the necessity of a father figure and discipline in the household.

Not at all.

You are grossly simplifying the reality money, without it shelter, food aka the basic needs of life cannot truly be met. This precarity can cause a lot of strain of course.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 13, 2025, 04:17:47 AM


Blacks - crime statistics over & over again show who are the trouble makers

Makes sense you are racist lol
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 13, 2025, 10:05:12 AM
I don't know if that's true.  I doubt it.  But the ones that are bad likely have the same problems as any other s-hole place.
Really? Name one predominately black country that isn't a shithole. Better yet, do a thought experiment. Move all people from Haiti to Iceland and vice versa. Come back in a year and see who is thriving and who is dead.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 13, 2025, 01:16:04 PM
Not at all.

You are grossly simplifying the reality money, without it shelter, food aka the basic needs of life cannot truly be met. This precarity can cause a lot of strain of course.
So people with money don't commit crimes?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on September 13, 2025, 02:26:08 PM
So people with money don't commit crimes?
they do it bettter, and bigger,  with more law and shade on their side
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 13, 2025, 04:18:57 PM
Sounds like an excuse to be a piece of shit. Money doesn't make someone a good person. You're downplaying the necessity of a father figure and discipline in the household.

It is often difficult to discern what is an excuse and what is not. Some people are just completely off their rockers with little or no control over their actions.
Sometimes, money makes bad people, like the Menendez brothers. https://listverse.com/2019/10/26/murders-committed-rich
A strong father figure does not hurt but it also does not always help. Tyler Robinson father Matthew likely has a very strong father figure. Possibly too much so. But then we don't really know much yet about Tyler Robinson or his family. All of them could be totally screwed up. This article tells very little about the Robinson family or its dynamic.
Most people want an explanation why they did it and who they are as a person when someone commits a brutal crime. Maybe it helps us distance ourselves from the perpetrator (I am nothing like the criminal). But there are rarely easy explanations as to why people do what they do.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 14, 2025, 04:09:58 PM
Makes sense you are racist lol


Makes perfect sense you are a Leftist Fucking idiot.
Who typically doesn't like Facts or Truth.

Everyone is racist to some degree.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 14, 2025, 04:12:01 PM
Makes sense you are racist lol


Excellent reply from HN.

Really? Name one predominately black country that isn't a shithole. Better yet, do a thought experiment. Move all people from Haiti to Iceland and vice versa. Come back in a year and see who is thriving and who is dead.

Would so like to see this experiment happen.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 14, 2025, 07:20:15 PM

Makes perfect sense you are a Leftist Fucking idiot.
Who typically doesn't like Facts or Truth.

Everyone is racist to some degree.

Whose facts or truths? -Opinions about this vary greatly depending on one's perspective and affiliations. There are often multiple perceptions and opinions which manifest subjective truths, mostly not absolute.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 14, 2025, 07:27:09 PM
Whose facts or truths? -Opinions about this vary greatly depending on one's perspective and affiliations. There are often multiple perceptions and opinions which manifest subjective truths, mostly not absolute.

I was addressing the Idiot dancing Monkey not his equally idiotic organ grinder.

😊

HTH.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 15, 2025, 07:49:09 AM
Pulling the "Race Card" is passe now.

You must be more creative.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2025, 03:18:16 PM
Really? Name one predominately black country that isn't a shithole. Better yet, do a thought experiment. Move all people from Haiti to Iceland and vice versa. Come back in a year and see who is thriving and who is dead.

Brazil, Jamaica, the Bahamas, Virgin Islands off the top of my head. 

I think your thought experiment works better if you take people from similar socio-economic backgrounds and move them. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 15, 2025, 04:00:26 PM
Brazil, Jamaica, the Bahamas, Virgin Islands off the top of my head. 

I think your thought experiment works better if you take people from similar socio-economic backgrounds and move them.

Brazil & Jamaica- Seriously !!  WTF

As for Bahamas/ virgin Islands I know little about them places & won't comment.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2025, 04:16:39 PM
Brazil & Jamaica- Seriously !!  WTF

As for Bahamas/ virgin Islands I know little about them places & won't comment.

He asked for countries.  I don't think it proves anything, but I just answered his question. 

But to get to the heart of what you and he are saying, it's this:  you believe all black people have some kind of inherent/genetic component that makes them violent, not get an education, commit crimes, bad people, etc.  Is that right? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 15, 2025, 04:28:59 PM
He asked for countries.  I don't think it proves anything, but I just answered his question. 

But to get to the heart of what you and he are saying, it's this:  you believe all black people have some kind of inherent/genetic component that makes them violent, not get an education, commit crimes, bad people, etc.  Is that right?

No not quite,

There are a certain percentage of Blacks that are inherently bad,
Not all as there are many blacks that are hard working & good family men.

Also there's something wrong with black culture & how that affects them.
In my observations & experience when a large group of blacks get together
The  more often than not the Blackness come out of them on full display.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2025, 04:46:21 PM
No not quite,

There are a certain percentage of Blacks that are inherently bad,
Not all as there are many blacks that are hard working & good family men.

Also there's something wrong with black culture & how that affects them.
In my observations & experience when a large group of blacks get together
The  more often than not the Blackness come out of them on full display.

Ok.  Thanks for clarifying.  I don't necessarily disagree with this.  There is definitely a cultural aspect to problems we see in the "hood." But those problems have a common denominator that isn't necessarily race-based.  I've been all over the country, with people of all ethnic backgrounds, education, income, net worth levels.  The common thread for problems is the breakdown of the family.  The common thread for success is an intact nuclear family.  There are always exceptions, but if, for example, if you look at the prison population, you can find a direct correlation between the absence of a strong father and men in prison, regardless of race.  And the reason you see a disproportionate number of "black" men in prison is the illegitimacy rate in that community is like 75 percent.  That's crazy.

Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan did a study back in the 60s.  He found that the black illegitimacy rate was like 25 percent and that if that number did not get corrected or improved there would be dire consequences.  At the time, the white illegitimacy rate was less than half of that.  He was a prophet. 

https://www.dol.gov/general/aboutdol/history/webid-moynihan

 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 15, 2025, 05:42:39 PM
Ok.  Thanks for clarifying.  I don't necessarily disagree with this.  There is definitely a cultural aspect to problems we see in the "hood." But those problems have a common denominator that isn't necessarily race-based.  I've been all over the country, with people of all ethnic backgrounds, education, income, net worth levels.  The common thread for problems is the breakdown of the family.  The common thread for success is an intact nuclear family.  There are always exceptions, but if, for example, if you look at the prison population, you can find a direct correlation between the absence of a strong father and men in prison, regardless of race.  And the reason you see a disproportionate number of "black" men in prison is the illegitimacy rate in that community is like 75 percent.  That's crazy.

Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan did a study back in the 60s.  He found that the black illegitimacy rate was like 25 percent and that if that number did not get corrected or improved there would be dire consequences.  At the time, the white illegitimacy rate was less than half of that.  He was a prophet. 

https://www.dol.gov/general/aboutdol/history/webid-moynihan

 


Very clearly there are a few contributing factors the ongoing problems
With Blacks not just in America,  all over the world we see the same
Reoccurring issues.

No getting away from the Fact that Many Blacks are a problem to
Themselves & those around them.
Don't think there's any simple solution.
They should've been left in Africa, that was one huge mistake by The
White Man.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2025, 10:52:55 PM

Very clearly there are a few contributing factors the ongoing problems
With Blacks not just in America,  all over the world we see the same
Reoccurring issues.

No getting away from the Fact that Many Blacks are a problem to
Themselves & those around them.
Don't think there's any simple solution.
They should've been left in Africa, that was one huge mistake by The
White Man.


That's just racist. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 15, 2025, 10:55:52 PM
So people with money don't commit crimes?
The biggest criminals are Bankers
Rich people can buy loyalty
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 15, 2025, 11:56:35 PM

Very clearly there are a few contributing factors the ongoing problems
With Blacks not just in America,  all over the world we see the same
Reoccurring issues.

No getting away from the Fact that Many Blacks are a problem to
Themselves & those around them.
Don't think there's any simple solution.
They should've been left in Africa, that was one huge mistake by The
White Man.
We should have left them there AFTER stealing all of Wakanda's technology.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 12:10:44 AM
That's just racist.

Is It  ::) I don't care - it's the Truth - are you turning liberal & soft ?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 01:17:29 AM
We should have left them there AFTER stealing all of Wakanda's technology.

Just Vibranium.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 01:18:50 AM
Is It  ::) I don't care - it's the Truth - are you turning liberal & soft ?

No, it's not the truth.  That's just an ignorant comment.

I should ask you if you're turning liberal.  Conservatives are not racist.  Liberals are racist. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 08:21:59 AM
No, it's not the truth.  That's just an ignorant comment.

I should ask you if you're turning liberal.  Conservatives are not racist.  Liberals are racist.

It is the Truth - point out any thriving African country that hasnt had the
white man helping them.

If you cannot or will not see & accept Facts that's your issue.

I generally agree with what yoy have to say, Not this time.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 03:12:59 PM
It is the Truth - point out any thriving African country that hasnt had the
white man helping them.

If you cannot or will not see & accept Facts that's your issue.

I generally agree with what yoy have to say, Not this time.

No, saying that the "White Man" should have left the "Black Man" in Africa is not truth.  It's just dumb.  And racist.  But it's ok.  We don't have to agree on everything and I don't automatically dismiss someone because they are a racist.  Some racists are bad people.  Some are just uninformed.  Some are just dumb.  Some are pseduo-intellectuals, like that Nick Fuentes dude, who I only recently listened to.  You would probably like him. 

I have no idea what African countries are thriving and which ones are not.  And I don't care.  Doesn't prove anything, one way or the other. 

But let's take a closer look at your comments.  Who is responsible for the success of these men? 

Teddy Roosevelt (white guy) who was the best and most bad-as@@ president in American history? 

Dr. Ben Carson (black guy) who is the best brain surgeon in world history?

William F. Buckley Jr. (white guy) who was one the greatest thinkers of our time?

Justice Clarence Thomas (black guy) who is the sixth longest serving U.S. Supreme Court Justice in American history?

Charles Krauthammer (white guy) who is my all-time favorite thinker?

Thomas Sowell (black guy) who is one of the greatest economists in American history? 

Colin Powell (black guy) who was one of the greatest servicemembers in American history? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 04:56:09 PM
No, saying that the "White Man" should have left the "Black Man" in Africa is not truth.  It's just dumb.  And racist.  But it's ok.  We don't have to agree on everything and I don't automatically dismiss someone because they are a racist.  Some racists are bad people.  Some are just uninformed.  Some are just dumb.  Some are pseduo-intellectuals, like that Nick Fuentes dude, who I only recently listened to.  You would probably like him. 

I have no idea what African countries are thriving and which ones are not.  And I don't care.  Doesn't prove anything, one way or the other. 

But let's take a closer look at your comments.  Who is responsible for the success of these men? 

Teddy Roosevelt (white guy) who was the best and most bad-as@@ president in American history? 

Dr. Ben Carson (black guy) who is the best brain surgeon in world history?

William F. Buckley Jr. (white guy) who was one the greatest thinkers of our time?

Justice Clarence Thomas (black guy) who is the sixth longest serving U.S. Supreme Court Justice in American history?

Charles Krauthammer (white guy) who is my all-time favorite thinker?

Thomas Sowell (black guy) who is one of the greatest economists in American history? 

Colin Powell (black guy) who was one of the greatest servicemembers in American history?



What was all that nonsense about , yes there's some good decent & clever back men.
Doesn't alter the fact that blacks should've stayed in Africa & not spread to other
Countries.
As For your obsession with calling / labeling me a "Racist" It 1, doesn’t bother me
2, says you've got no response  - Just labelling folk "Racist" That's pretty pathetic.


Is this also a Racist statement made by a Racist --or Fact
Depends on your point of view I guess.

I guess that explains why the greatest bodybuilder in history (Arnold) is white, why one of the most dominant bodybuilders in the modern era (Yates) is white, why the runner up at the last several Olympias (Cutler) is white, why two of the biggest competitive bodybuilders in the world (Gunter and Ruhl) are white.


Just stop with the weak Racist nonsense.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 05:41:55 PM


What was all that nonsense about , yes there's some good decent & clever back men.
Doesn't alter the fact that blacks should've stayed in Africa & not spread to other
Countries.
As For your obsession with calling / labeling me a "Racist" It 1, doesn’t bother me
2, says you've got no response  - Just labelling folk "Racist" That's pretty pathetic.


Is this also a Racist statement made by a Racist --or Fact
Depends on your point of view I guess.


Just stop with the weak Racist nonsense.

I don't have an obsession with calling you a racist.  I'm just responding to your racist comments.  You engaged me on this.  I'm just pointing out how racist (and dumb) your comments are.  I honestly don't care if you want to hold on to the view that blacks should have stayed in Africa.  It's actually pretty funny.

Regarding my comment from 19 years ago in 2006, you should have included the comment I was responding to.  Here is the full context and explanation:

Hey man, the black on the top doesn't even count...we can barely even see him! AND he's black...blacks have different genes than us whities... we'll have to have two categories one for natural whites...another for natural blacks,just so it's fair.

I guess that explains why the greatest bodybuilder in history (Arnold) is white, why one of the most dominant bodybuilders in the modern era (Yates) is white, why the runner up at the last several Olympias (Cutler) is white, why two of the biggest competitive bodybuilders in the world (Gunter and Ruhl) are white.

So as you can clearly see, someone claimed blacks are genetically superior to whites in bodybuilding.  I responded by pointing out how some of the all-time great bodybuilders are white, i.e., there is no genetic advantage.  And you think this is racist? lol  Or comparable to you saying blacks should have stayed in Africa?  No.

Can you dig up more racist comments from me?  It's actually pretty entertaining.   ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 16, 2025, 06:17:09 PM
How did this race discussion start ???
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 06:36:21 PM
I don't have an obsession with calling you a racist.  I'm just responding to your racist comments.  You engaged me on this.  I'm just pointing out how racist (and dumb) your comments are.  I honestly don't care if you want to hold on to the view that blacks should have stayed in Africa.  It's actually pretty funny.

Regarding my comment from 19 years ago in 2006, you should have included the comment I was responding to.  Here is the full context and explanation:

So as you can clearly see, someone claimed blacks are genetically superior to whites in bodybuilding.  I responded by pointing out how some of the all-time great bodybuilders are white, i.e., there is no genetic advantage.  And you think this is racist? lol  Or comparable to you saying blacks should have stayed in Africa?  No.

Can you dig up more racist comments from me?  It's actually pretty entertaining.   ;D

I find you're holier than thou & I know better than you attitude very funny.
You may think you know more / better thats your opinion
I don't happen to share it. 

As for your comment I posted did you not see I asked a question?
In your blind rage about "Racist" you no doubt missed it.

I'm a "Racist" & proud of it - I also view you as a "In denial Racist"

That's the end of this silly & boring nonsense about being a " Racist"
Carry on ranting to yourself.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 06:39:53 PM
How did this race discussion start ???

Dos didn't like a comment I made about Blacks should've been left in Africa
and Pathetically called me a  "Racist!! "  like that was going to do anything
Other than make me laugh. 😂🤣😂

Its fine I like Dos & agree with most of what he has to say.
Only not this Time.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 07:34:46 PM
I find you're holier than thou & I know better than you attitude very funny.
You may think you know more / better thats your opinion
I don't happen to share it. 

As for your comment I posted did you not see I asked a question?
In your blind rage about "Racist" you no doubt missed it.

I'm a "Racist" & proud of it - I also view you as a "In denial Racist"

That's the end of this silly & boring nonsense about being a " Racist"
Carry on ranting to yourself.

Well I definitely know more than you about the root causes of problems in America.  I guess that and about $10 wins me a cup of coffee from Starbucks (if I drank coffee). 

You are a proud racist.  Good for you.  You live in a very small world.  You could never survive in Hawaii.  lol
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2025, 07:37:21 PM
How did this race discussion start ???

It was me responding to Necrosis about the root causes of crime in America, explaining why it isn't really race-based, but based on socio-economics, specifically, the breakdown of the nuclear family.  Humble Narcissist and Illumaniti responded that problems are race-based, and it just went from there.  Pretty revealing discussion.

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=700737.75
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 16, 2025, 08:08:04 PM
Well I definitely know more than you about the root causes of problems in America.  I guess that and about $10 wins me a cup of coffee from Starbucks (if I drank coffee). 

You are a proud racist.  Good for you.  You live in a very small world.  You could never survive in Hawaii.  lol

There you go again making wrong assumptions- saying you know better than I the
Root causes of problems in America & you've no idea how big or small my World is.

I've never been to Hawaii so neither you or I know if I'd survive, Personally I figure
I'd be fine.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on September 17, 2025, 05:26:11 AM
There you go again making wrong assumptions- saying you know better than I the
Root causes of problems in America & you've no idea how big or small my World is.

I've never been to Hawaii so neither you or I know if I'd survive, Personally I figure
I'd be fine.

They have supermarkets in Hawaii so no problem surviving.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 17, 2025, 07:51:41 AM
They have supermarkets in Hawaii so no problem surviving.


Wow - Really they're that advanced - must be all those intelligent
& peaceful Blacks   ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 17, 2025, 09:28:14 AM
It was me responding to Necrosis about the root causes of crime in America, explaining why it isn't really race-based, but based on socio-economics, specifically, the breakdown of the nuclear family.  Humble Narcissist and Illumaniti responded that problems are race-based, and it just went from there.  Pretty revealing discussion.

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=700737.75
Hmm to deny socio-economic status as a crime indicator would be irresponsible, the fatherless households, lack of role models in the neighborhoods and single/absent mothers leads to poor upbringing = more crime. However, to deny that one group of people has a higher percentage of these attributes would also be irresponsible and in no way helpful to that community.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 17, 2025, 01:13:03 PM
It was me responding to Necrosis about the root causes of crime in America, explaining why it isn't really race-based, but based on socio-economics, specifically, the breakdown of the nuclear family.  Humble Narcissist and Illumaniti responded that problems are race-based, and it just went from there.  Pretty revealing discussion.

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=700737.75


Send all Islamics Back - they will be a cancer within
No doubt you'll say that's "Racist"  & I'd not last long in Pakistan,
You couldnt pay me enough money to go to that shit-hole.

Islamics & Black should never be allowed out of there own countries.

HTH

 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2025, 01:48:21 PM
They have supermarkets in Hawaii so no problem surviving.

It's not the food that's the problem.  It's the fact Hawaii's population is overwhelmingly ethnic minorities.  Not enough white people for him.  He would break out in hives just walking down the street.   ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2025, 01:52:04 PM
Having visited Hawaii a few times, I know I would love to survive (live) there. The abundant sunshine, mild climate, and that daily mist of rain which keeps the vegetation so lush is very much to my liking. My daughter, son-in-law and grandson lived there while stationed at Schofield Barracks for five years a decade or so ago. They often reminisce about living in Hawaii. One of their best friends in Hawaii is a native from a very large family.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2025, 01:56:19 PM
Hmm to deny socio-economic status as a crime indicator would be irresponsible, the fatherless households, lack of role models in the neighborhoods and single/absent mothers leads to poor upbringing = more crime. However, to deny that one group of people has a higher percentage of these attributes would also be irresponsible and in no way helpful to that community.

It's not just a higher percentage.  It's enormous.  The black men prison population is grossly disproportionate to their percentage of the population.  It isn't because of racism.  It isn't because there is some genetic component.  It's directly related to the breakdown of the family.  Yes there are some terrible aspects of their culture in a lot of communities, but it can be traced to the absence of strong fathers in the home.  I just thought about this, but if you take random graduates from Morehouse (one of those all male HBCUs that the "white supremacist" Trump just funded again) and the same random number of black men from prison and compare their family backgrounds, I think you find stark differences in how they were raised.  And the breakdown of the family is directly related to leftist Great Society programs that rewarded single-parent households.  That greatly contributed to skyrocketing illegitimacy rates.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2025, 01:56:56 PM

Send all Islamics Back - they will be a cancer within
No doubt you'll say that's "Racist"  & I'd not last long in Pakistan,
You couldnt pay me enough money to go to that shit-hole.

Islamics & Black should never be allowed out of there own countries.

HTH

 ;D

What do you mean by "Islamics"? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2025, 01:57:45 PM
Having visited Hawaii a few times, I know I would love survive (live) there. The abundant sunshine, mild climate, and that daily mist of rain which keeps the vegetation so lush is very much to my liking. My daughter, son-in-law and grandson lived there while stationed at Schofield Barracks for five years a decade or so ago. They often reminisce about living in Hawaii. One of their best friends in Hawaii is a native from a very large family.   

It's a special place.  I would never live anywhere else. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 17, 2025, 07:45:44 PM
It's not just a higher percentage.  It's enormous.  The black men prison population is grossly disproportionate to their percentage of the population.  It isn't because of racism.  It isn't because there is some genetic component. It's directly related to the breakdown of the family.  Yes there are some terrible aspects of their culture in a lot of communities, but it can be traced to the absence of strong fathers in the home.  I just thought about this, but if you take random graduates from Morehouse (one of those all male HBCUs that the "white supremacist" Trump just funded again) and the same random number of black men from prison and compare their family backgrounds, I think you find stark differences in how they were raised.  And the breakdown of the family is directly related to leftist Great Society programs that rewarded single-parent households.  That greatly contributed to skyrocketing illegitimacy rates.   
I had detailed response written out and getbig shit the bed. Basically the bolded part is to blame. How does society fix that?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2025, 08:51:48 PM
I had detailed response written out and getbig shit the bed. Basically the bolded part is to blame. How does society fix that?

Yeah the site has been glitchy.  I created a new thread and it duplicated the thread like five times. 

I don't think there is an easy fix.  But if I ruled the world, I would do the following:

1.  Completely change the welfare system that rewards single parenthood and punishes marriage.  Including having work requirements and time limits for public assistance. Like someone once said, it should be a safety net, not a hammock. 

2.  Completely revamp the public education system to ensure kids are actually learning how to read, write, do math, etc.  The fact we have schools in places like Baltimore where almost none of the kids are proficient in reading is criminal. 

3.  Make money management, investing, credit, and financial literacy part of required high school curriculum. 

4.  Have a Trump-like presence of law enforcement in the inner cities to clean up crime. 

5.  Create some kind of incentives for young people to get and stay married, before they have kids.  Improve and expand our messaging to young people about following the Millennial Success Sequence:  "getting at least a high school degree, working full-time, and marrying before having any children, in that order."

6.  Increase funding for STEM programs in high school.

7.  Create more opportunities for trade schools. 

I could come up with more ideas, but that's just off the top of my head. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 01:37:15 AM
What do you mean by "Islamics"?

Are you really that thick or are you now imitating Prime & his stupidity

Islam followers / Muslims / religion of blowing themselves & others up

Islamic's

HTH

 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 01:40:24 AM
It's not just a higher percentage.  It's enormous.  The black men prison population is grossly disproportionate to their percentage of the population.  It isn't because of racism.  It isn't because there is some genetic component.  It's directly related to the breakdown of the family.  Yes there are some terrible aspects of their culture in a lot of communities, but it can be traced to the absence of strong fathers in the home.  I just thought about this, but if you take random graduates from Morehouse (one of those all male HBCUs that the "white supremacist" Trump just funded again) and the same random number of black men from prison and compare their family backgrounds, I think you find stark differences in how they were raised.  And the breakdown of the family is directly related to leftist Great Society programs that rewarded single-parent households.  That greatly contributed to skyrocketing illegitimacy rates.   


Yes & Them being Blacks.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2025, 06:43:11 AM
Yeah the site has been glitchy.  I created a new thread and it duplicated the thread like five times. 

I don't think there is an easy fix.  But if I ruled the world, I would do the following:

1.  Completely change the welfare system that rewards single parenthood and punishes marriage.  Including having work requirements and time limits for public assistance. Like someone once said, it should be a safety net, not a hammock. 

2.  Completely revamp the public education system to ensure kids are actually learning how to read, write, do math, etc.  The fact we have schools in places like Baltimore where almost none of the kids are proficient in reading is criminal. 

3.  Make money management, investing, credit, and financial literacy part of required high school curriculum. 

4.  Have a Trump-like presence of law enforcement in the inner cities to clean up crime. 

5.  Create some kind of incentives for young people to get and stay married, before they have kids.  Improve and expand our messaging to young people about following the Millennial Success Sequence:  "getting at least a high school degree, working full-time, and marrying before having any children, in that order."

6.  Increase funding for STEM programs in high school.

7.  Create more opportunities for trade schools. 

I could come up with more ideas, but that's just off the top of my head.
That's a solid, common sense list.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 12:24:54 PM
Are you really that thick or are you now imitating Prime & his stupidity

Islam followers / Muslims / religion of blowing themselves & others up

Islamic's

HTH

 ;D

No need to be rude.  Just trying to understand your point.  I don't think "Islamic's" is a word?  I think people refer to Muslims as . . . Muslims.  Thanks for clarifying.

So you believe Muslims should remain in their country of origin.  There are more than 2 billion Muslims worldwide.  Here is a list of countries, some of which have hundreds of millions.  How exactly do you propose we force Muslims to stay in those countries?   

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/muslim-population-by-country

Also, what about the Muslims in America?  Do you suggest putting them in some kind of concentration camp? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 12:27:36 PM

Yes & Them being Blacks.

Hard hitting analysis there.  How are you defining "Blacks"?  Given that there is no scientific difference between the races, are you relying on melanin? 

And what about people like Obama.  Someone on here (Hugo Chavez?) would get upset when I called Obama white.  Obama is just as much "white" as he is "black."  How would you characterize him? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 12:27:53 PM
That's a solid, common sense list.

Thank you sir.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 02:19:36 PM
No need to be rude.  Just trying to understand your point.  I don't think "Islamic's" is a word?  I think people refer to Muslims as . . . Muslims.  Thanks for clarifying.

So you believe Muslims should remain in their country of origin.  There are more than 2 billion Muslims worldwide.  Here is a list of countries, some of which have hundreds of millions.  How exactly do you propose we force Muslims to stay in those countries?   

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/muslim-population-by-country

Also, what about the Muslims in America?  Do you suggest putting them in some kind of concentration camp?


There's also no need to play willfully stupid either. Leave that kind of Fuckwittery
To Prime.
And yes Islamics is Word.

Muslims same as Blacks wherever possible send them back to their native country.
Sadly the world is a Fucking mess in so many different areas.

Liberal Leftists /Sub Human Blacks & Muslims 🤬🤬🤬
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 02:22:15 PM
Hard hitting analysis there.  How are you defining "Blacks"?  Given that there is no scientific difference between the races, are you relying on melanin? 

And what about people like Obama.  Someone on here (Hugo Chavez?) would get upset when I called Obama white.  Obama is just as much "white" as he is "black."  How would you characterize him?


I characterise him as a Black / Queer / Leftist Khvnt.
Likewise you're free to characterise him however you want.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 02:52:59 PM

There's also no need to play willfully stupid either. Leave that kind of Fuckwittery
To Prime.
And yes Islamics is Word.

Muslims same as Blacks wherever possible send them back to their native country.
Sadly the world is a Fucking mess in so many different areas.

Liberal Leftists /Sub Human Blacks & Muslims 🤬🤬🤬

I've never heard anyone use the word "Islamics."  But I understand you mean Muslims. 

I'm not tracking how this "send them back to their native country" would work.  Islam is a religion.  It's adherents are Muslim.  There really isn't a "native" Muslim country.  Who is going to round up people of the Muslim faith?  Law enforcement?  The federal government?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 02:54:31 PM

I characterise him as a Black / Queer / Leftist Khvnt.
Likewise you're free to characterise him however you want.

What is the criteria you are using to characterize Obama as black?  His mother was white.  His father was African. 

What is the criteria you use to characterize someone as black or white in general? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2025, 03:15:55 PM

There's also no need to play willfully stupid either. Leave that kind of Fuckwittery
To Prime.
And yes Islamics is Word.

Muslims same as Blacks wherever possible send them back to their native country.
Sadly the world is a Fucking mess in so many different areas.

Liberal Leftists /Sub Human Blacks & Muslims 🤬🤬🤬

"Islamic's" is grammatically incorrect; you likely mean either Islam (the religion), Muslims (followers of the religion), or Islamic (the adjective describing things related to Islam).
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 04:10:47 PM
I've never heard anyone use the word "Islamics."  But I understand you mean Muslims. 

I'm not tracking how this "send them back to their native country" would work.  Islam is a religion.  It's adherents are Muslim.  There really isn't a "native" Muslim country.  Who is going to round up people of the Muslim faith?  Law enforcement?  The federal government?

The word is often used here in UK - there is a whole world outside of the USA.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 04:14:07 PM
I've never heard anyone use the word "Islamics."  But I understand you mean Muslims. 

I'm not tracking how this "send them back to their native country" would work.  Islam is a religion.  It's adherents are Muslim.  There really isn't a "native" Muslim country.  Who is going to round up people of the Muslim faith?  Law enforcement?  The federal government?


I don't care if you understand or not.
You're just being obtuse - yet you likely think you're being smart.

Go play your stupidity games with Prime as you've dropped to his level
Of being silly.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 04:18:36 PM
The word is often used here in UK - there is a whole world outside of the USA.

Given that there really isn't a "native" Muslim country, who is going to round up people of the Muslim faith?  Law enforcement?  The federal government?

And after rounding them up, where do we send them? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 04:20:46 PM

I don't care if you understand or not.
You're just being obtuse - yet you likely think you're being smart.

Go play your stupidity games with Prime as you've dropped to his level
Of being silly.

So you're going to pick up your bat and ball and go home.  No worries.  I understand how difficult it must be to answer basic questions when the premise of your position is looney tunes.  But I really was trying to follow your positions to their logical conclusions. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 04:24:13 PM
So you're going to pick up your bat and ball and go home.  No worries.  I understand how difficult it must be to answer basic questions when the premise of your position is looney tunes.  But I really was trying to follow your positions to their logical conclusions.


I've no time for your idiotic word play games & being wilfully stupid.
Draw whatever conclusions you so wish that make you happy.

I also understand that being sensible is really difficult for you.
You're nowhere near as Smart / clever as you think you are.

Carry on.  🤣
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 04:29:46 PM

I've no time for your idiotic word play games & being wilfully stupid.
Draw whatever conclusions you so wish that make you happy.

I also understand that being sensible is really difficult for you.
You're nowhere near as Smart / clever as you think you are.

Carry on.  🤣

You don't have to time to answer questions about something you injected into a discussion on a discussion board.  That's rich.  lol 

People who are incapable of having rational discussions typically resort to insults and then run away. 

But it's ok.  I am always here to help.  And if you ever need help dealing with your "proud" racism and religious bigotry, I am here for you. 

BTW, do you think we should round up gay and disabled people too? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 18, 2025, 06:44:25 PM
For the record, I'm ok rounding up the muzzies and tossing them all into the middle east somewhere. Not a fan. I understand billions of people follow the pedophile prophet, don't care.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 07:41:08 PM
You don't have to time to answer questions about something you injected into a discussion on a discussion board.  That's rich.  lol 

People who are incapable of having rational discussions typically resort to insults and then run away. 

But it's ok.  I am always here to help.  And if you ever need help dealing with your "proud" racism and religious bigotry, I am here for you. 

BTW, do you think we should round up gay and disabled people too?


You really do think you are super smart  ::) don't you.

I have time if choose , only I'm not playing a stupid game where you wish to act
Dumb & have everything explained to you like a 5yr old that got boring real quick.

I won't ever need your help or anyone else's help to deal with my racism & religious
Bigotry as you call them.
Though it appears you may need help to stop you going full leftist.

Where as you have a huge problem with racism & religious Bigotry I do not, so worry
About your own issues.

Ahhhh yes great idea round up all the QBGTLXYZS individuals along with the Blacks
& Muslims and dump them some place in the middle of nowhere like Hawaii that
Should make you very happy to have them all.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 07:53:47 PM

You really do think you are super smart  ::) don't you.

I have time if choose , only I'm not playing a stupid game where you wish to act
Dumb & have everything explained to you like a 5yr old that got boring real quick.

I won't ever need your help or anyone else's help to deal with my racism & religious
Bigotry as you call them.
Though it appears you may need help to stop you going full leftist.

Where as you have a huge problem with racism & religious Bigotry I do not, so worry
About your own issues.

Ahhhh yes great idea round up all the QBGTLXYZS individuals along with the Blacks
& Muslims and dump them some place in the middle of nowhere like Hawaii that
Should make you very happy to have them all.

That's quite the meltdown.  Have you considered Stormfront?  I think you be very happy there.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2025, 07:55:11 PM
For the record, I'm ok rounding up the muzzies and tossing them all into the middle east somewhere. Not a fan. I understand billions of people follow the pedophile prophet, don't care.

If you were talking about Radical Islamists I would agree, and I created a thread about them years ago.  But all Muslims?  Nah.  Do you have any Muslim friends?  I do.  I wouldn't ship them anywhere. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 18, 2025, 08:15:29 PM
That's quite the meltdown.  Have you considered Stormfront?  I think you be very happy there.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)


Meltdown  ::)  FFS how old are you.

Get a grip. You're becoming pathetic.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2025, 06:18:58 AM
If you were talking about Radical Islamists I would agree, and I created a thread about them years ago.  But all Muslims?  Nah.  Do you have any Muslim friends?  I do.  I wouldn't ship them anywhere.
I am fortunate enough to not have anyone I know be muslim. I find that religion and it's founding/teachings fairly disgusting and for the most part it's followers archaic. I feel like islam is the poor mans version of scientology.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 19, 2025, 08:35:03 AM
I am fortunate enough to not have anyone I know be muslim. I find that religion and it's founding/teachings fairly disgusting and for the most part it's followers archaic. I feel like islam is the poor mans version of scientology.
You may be surprised with American Muzzies. I've found them much easier to work with than JOOOS.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 19, 2025, 11:51:06 AM
If you were talking about Radical Islamists I would agree, and I created a thread about them years ago.  (http://But all Muslims?)Nah.  Do you have any Muslim friends?  I do.  I wouldn't ship them anywhere.
When the time comes they'll all stick together
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2025, 02:44:32 PM

Meltdown  ::)  FFS how old are you.

Get a grip. You're becoming pathetic.

Relax Adolf.  Go sit down before you hurt yourself. 

I asked you some very simple questions.  Rather than answer them, you started acting like a little kid.  All you had to do was either answer them or acknowledge that your views make no sense.  No, we cannot send all Muslims or blacks back to their country of origin.  No, we don't round up gay people.  What the heck do you think our society is?  Game of Thrones?? 

Your responses show that you think like a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.  But in the words of Natasha Romanoff, thank you for your cooperation.   :)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 19, 2025, 02:45:44 PM
When the time comes they'll all stick together


He definitely won't agree & likely come back with a 5yr olds
reply - what do you mean "all stick together"
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2025, 02:46:49 PM
When the time comes they'll all stick together

If that's the case then we are doomed, because there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world. 

I do understand the problem with Radial Islam, which is unquestionably a threat.  But we cannot use a broad brush that applies everyone.  I judge each person on their own merit, regardless of race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 19, 2025, 02:56:32 PM
Relax Adolf.  Go sit down before you hurt yourself. 

I asked you some very simple questions.  Rather than answer them, you started acting like a little kid.  All you had to do was either answer them or acknowledge that your views make no sense.  No, we cannot send all Muslims or blacks back to their country of origin.  No, we don't round up gay people.  What the heck do you think our society is?  Game of Thrones?? 

Your responses show that you think like a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal.  But in the words of Natasha Romanoff, thank you for your cooperation.   :)


And look at you Master mind with the name calling & asssumptions
Yet here you are thinking you're clever,
when your little more than Clown.

Whatever our society is it's totally screwed up.  mixing of very different
races / cultures / Religions rarely if ever works out for the overall best

Thank you for showing your true self.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on September 19, 2025, 08:05:20 PM

And look at you Master mind with the name calling & asssumptions
Yet here you are thinking you're clever,
when your little more than Clown.

Whatever our society is it's totally screwed up.  mixing of very different
races / cultures / Religions rarely if ever works out for the overall best

Thank you for showing your true self.

I think you both agree on more things than not.  He's just trying to see the good in folks, and you're taking a broader statistical view.

Yes, we've met muslims who are good folks.  But we've also read the nature of Islam to take over wherever they go.  Some who practice this faith believe this, and some don't.

Easy to see both sides, and why some may sit where they sit.

Time to shake hands, have a digital beer, and agree to disagree on this one.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 19, 2025, 09:05:26 PM
I think you both agree on more things than not.  He's just trying to see the good in folks, and you're taking a broader statistical view.

Yes, we've met muslims who are good folks.  But we've also read the nature of Islam to take over wherever they go.  Some who practice this faith believe this, and some don't.

Easy to see both sides, and why some may sit where they sit.

Time to shake hands, have a digital beer, and agree to disagree on this one.


Grape - you're quite right in as much as i generally like & agree with
dos on most of what he posts.

I take exception when he try's to come across as thinking he's smarter
Mr Know it all & replying in a manner I'd expect from Prime or a 5yr old.

I'll Drink my Beer  ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 19, 2025, 10:52:47 PM
If that's the case then we are doomed, because there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world. 

I do understand the problem with Radial Islam, which is unquestionably a threat.  But we cannot use a broad brush that applies everyone.  I judge each person on their own merit, regardless of race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc.
& most are primitive 🐀 rats living in shit hole countries which is where they should stay
If you love Islam so much fuck off to one of their shit holes
My problem is we don't want these primitive sub humans in our civilizations
The evidence is clearly showing in europe that these rats are truly vermin
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 19, 2025, 10:55:06 PM

He definitely won't agree & likely come back with a 5yr olds
reply - what do you mean "all stick together"
Never really read anything he's wrote If I'm honest
Glad I didn't..probably keeps Goats  :D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2025, 03:33:19 AM
Never really read anything he's wrote If I'm honest
Glad I didn't..probably keeps Goats  :D

Ha Ha Ha - He'll no be pleased with you & likely try & come across
as smarter than you or give 5yr old answers as Prime does,
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2025, 03:37:47 AM
Ha Ha Ha - He'll no be pleased with you & likely try & come across
as smarter than you or give 5yr old answers as Prime does,
I take it he´s a Rag Head ?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2025, 03:57:13 AM
I take it he´s a Rag Head ?

I dont think so - says he lives in Hawaii - was very right wing
yet seems to be going lefty on some things.
Like Prime he believes he's smarter & knows more than everyone else  ::)
He moist certainty doesn't.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2025, 04:00:26 AM
I dont think so - says he lives in Hawaii - was very right wing
yet seems to be going lefty on some things.
Like Prime he believes he's smarter & knows more than everyone else  ::)
He moist certainty doesn't.

a bit like that "Gun-Ho" Coach guy ..an utter plum
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 20, 2025, 04:03:13 AM
a bit like that "Gun-Ho" Coach guy ..an utter plum

Ha :D , Both have & do post some decent stuff -
Just this Time Dos is way off the Mark.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 20, 2025, 04:08:57 AM
Ha :D , Both have & do post some decent stuff -
Just this Time Dos is way off the Mark.

I don´t tolerate fools lightly  :D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 20, 2025, 06:16:20 PM
a bit like that "Gun-Ho" Coach guy ..an utter plum

Yeah, that's bullshit. I teach the last resort should be to use a gun.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2025, 12:40:23 PM
Dos is a good guy, you two foreigners are treading thin ice. >:( It's ok to disagree. Accept it and move on.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 01:25:55 AM
What is the criteria you are using to characterize Obama as black?  His mother was white.  His father was African. 

What is the criteria you use to characterize someone as black or white in general?

Emmm..'cause he looks Black  ::)

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 22, 2025, 08:29:23 AM
^^^ Nice Fro on Barry.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 02:36:48 PM
I dont think so - says he lives in Hawaii - was very right wing
yet seems to be going lefty on some things.
Like Prime he believes he's smarter & knows more than everyone else  ::)
He moist certainty doesn't.

I'm not "right wing."  I'm an independent, but first and foremost an American.  Since you want to act like a creepy mofo and look up my posts from 19 years ago, why don't you try and find me describing myself as anything other than independent. 

And no, I don't believe I am smarter than anyone.  Never said that.  You feel that way because I'm asking you difficult questions.  And you sound very insecure. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 02:37:32 PM
Never really read anything he's wrote If I'm honest
Glad I didn't..probably keeps Goats  :D

No goats, but we got a whole lot of feral chickens up in this joint. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 02:38:09 PM
Dos is a good guy, you two foreigners are treading thin ice. >:( It's ok to disagree. Accept it and move on.

Wait.  Are they both not from the U.S.?  I should slap myself.  lol 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 02:39:15 PM
I'm not "right wing."  I'm an independent, but first and foremost an American.  Since you want to act like a creepy mofo and look up my posts from 19 years ago, why don't you try and find me describing myself as anything other than independent. 

And no, I don't believe I am smarter than anyone.  Never said that.  You feel that way because I'm asking you difficult questions.  And you sound very insecure.


This sums you up nicely

I don´t tolerate fools lightly  :D

 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 02:40:17 PM
Emmm..'cause he looks Black  ::)

Not Fucking Bright is he  ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 02:40:40 PM
Emmm..'cause he looks Black  ::)

I see.  So you consider someone who "looks black" to be black, regardless of their actual ethnic background? 

What about Wentworth Miller, who has the same ethnic background as Obama.  Do you consider him black too?

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTM3ODkxODI4Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjY3NDM0._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 02:41:38 PM
Dos is a good guy, you two foreigners are treading thin ice. >:( It's ok to disagree. Accept it and move on.


Why are we treading on thin ice ??

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2025, 03:14:30 PM

Why are we treading on thin ice ??

Duh -- Dos Equis is a Getbig moderator. Chaos is a Getbig moderator. Moderators have the ability to ban Getbig posters whose posts are out of line. You could ask Donny, who has previous experience with being banned from Getbig.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 03:16:24 PM
Duh -- Dos Equis is a Getbig moderator. Chaos is a Getbig moderator. Moderator's have the ability to ban Getbig posters whose posts are out of line.

Pretty fucking pathetic & childlike behaviour IF that was to happen.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2025, 03:26:01 PM
Pretty fucking pathetic & childlike behaviour IF that was to happen.

I definitely understand why you would think this, being as how you have personal experience with behavior that some folks consider as childlike.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 04:20:39 PM

This sums you up nicely

 ;D

If you're not an American and don't live in the U.S. then I really don't care what you think.  You're irrelevant.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 22, 2025, 05:30:07 PM

Why are we treading on thin ice ??
I'm bustin your balls old man, hence the  >:(
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 05:31:47 PM
If you're not an American and don't live in the U.S. then I really don't care what you think.  You're irrelevant.


Ha ha ha - you clearly did & do - easy to tell by the pathetic state you got
Yourself into.
Jeez you can't even be truthful.

Go away Pea Brain.

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 09:52:58 PM
If you're not an American and don't live in the U.S. then I really don't care what you think.  You're irrelevant.
I would say that's a pretty stupid statement to make considering you're so wound up about race & creed  ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 10:34:29 PM
If you were talking about Radical Islamists I would agree, and I created a thread about them years ago.  But all Muslims?  Nah.  Do you have any Muslim friends?  I do.  I wouldn't ship them anywhere.
Here's the thing you can have a very casual opinion on muslims because in your little world in Hawaii there's only 1% & you haven't been flooded with primitive sub humans since 2015.
Now if you perhaps left your sunshine, beaches & chickens & came to Germany & visited Berlin or Hamburg you might learn something.
You talk about non Americans being irrelevant but the reality is your opinions on Muslims is irrelevant to me or anyone else living in a European city or London
In short..you just don't know ..

Christians make up the majority of religious people in Hawaii, with estimates placing them at 63% of the population, while Muslims constitute a very small minority, less than 1% or roughly 5,000 individuals. This difference is significant, reflecting Christianity's long-established presence and majority status on the islands, compared to the more recent and diverse Muslim community.


Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 10:34:53 PM
I would say that's a pretty stupid statement to make considering you're so wound up about race & creed  ::)

Assuming what you say is true (that I'm wound up about race and creed), why should I care what you think?  Not seeing a connection.   

You also didn't answer the question about Wentworth Miller.  Is he a black guy too? 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 10:45:52 PM
Here's the thing you can have a very casual opinion on muslims because in your little world in Hawaii there's only 1% & you haven't been flooded with primitive sub humans since 2015.
Now if you perhaps left your sunshine, beaches & chickens & came to Germany & visited Berlin or Hamburg you might learn something.
You talk about non Americans being irrelevant but the reality is your opinions on Muslims is irrelevant to me or anyone else living in a European city or London
In short..you just don't know ..

Christians make up the majority of religious people in Hawaii, with estimates placing them at 63% of the population, while Muslims constitute a very small minority, less than 1% or roughly 5,000 individuals. This difference is significant, reflecting Christianity's long-established presence and majority status on the islands, compared to the more recent and diverse Muslim community.

You are correct about one thing:  I don't know and don't care about what the experience is in Germany with Muslims. 

I've been around the world (not Germany) and to most states in the U.S.  I have been blessed to be around people from all walks of life and I live in the most diverse state in the U.S.  That's why I'm not a closed-minded bigot.  People are awesome.  And some are rotten.  It's very easy for you to speak disparagingly in broad terms about people on a message board, but it's pretty clear you and your other foreign friend don't spend much time interacting with a broad, diverse group of people.

It's pretty funny that you are using Google to try and tell me about my home.  Imagine me going on Google and trying to tell you about where you live (whether it's Germany or whatever).  You don't see how crazy that would be? 

I created a thread on here 14 years ago and have been updating it ever since about Radical Islam (see below).  I know it's a threat.  What I also know is that it's not right to put all Muslims under that umbrella.  It's a scary proposition, because even if the number of Radical Islamists is a very small percentage of Muslims, there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world, so we could still be talking about a lot of people.  But that doesn't change the overall analysis for me.  We should judge everyone on their own merit. 

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=368681.msg5227041#msg5227041
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 11:05:35 PM
I definitely understand why you would think this, being as how you have personal experience with behavior that some folks consider as childlike.

Very many on this board consider your postings & thoughts odd, bizarre, Fucked up,
Stupid, & often child like - & they frequently tell you.

You're at the top of the list of personal experience along with Funk, DJ & Bianca Bhanky.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2025, 11:08:10 PM
I'm bustin your balls old man, hence the  >:(


OLD ? who the Fuck are you Calling old ?


 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 11:24:17 PM
You are correct about one thing:  I don't know and don't care about what the experience is in Germany with Muslims. 

I've been around the world (not Germany) and to most states in the U.S.  I have been blessed to be around people from all walks of life and I live in the most diverse state in the U.S.  That's why I'm not a closed-minded bigot.  People are awesome.  And some are rotten.  It's very easy for you to speak disparagingly in broad terms about people on a message board, but it's pretty clear you and your other foreign friend don't spend much time interacting with a broad, diverse group of people.

It's pretty funny that you are using Google to try and tell me about my home.  Imagine me going on Google and trying to tell you about where you live (whether it's Germany or whatever).  You don't see how crazy that would be? 

I created a thread on here 14 years ago and have been updating it ever since about Radical Islam (see below).  I know it's a threat.  What I also know is that it's not right to put all Muslims under that umbrella.  It's a scary proposition, because even if the number of Radical Islamists is a very small percentage of Muslims, there are over 2 billion Muslims in the world, so we could still be talking about a lot of people.  But that doesn't change the overall analysis for me.  We should judge everyone on their own merit. 

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=368681.msg5227041#msg5227041
You're getting wound up again..
How old are you? Tantrums are for small children
Your contradictory comments in each post are so amusing to me
"Me & my foreign friend "  & you say you're so open to everyone?
Dude...do you think before you write?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 11:33:13 PM
Very many on this board consider your postings & thoughts odd, bizarre, Fucked up,
Stupid, & often child like - & they frequently tell you.

You're at the top of the list of personal experience along with Funk, DJ & Bianca Bhanky.
Don't react to him..he's just stirring the pot
His life is meaningless without this Board
Obviously these people don't realise what's outside of their four walls
The MOD of this thread clearly has no understanding of global affairs & is so far out of touch it's almost comical.
When his little beaches are flooded with these primitive savages & it's not just 1% he'll sing a different song.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2025, 11:41:11 PM
You're getting wound up again..
How old are you? Tantrums are for small children
Your contradictory comments in each post are so amusing to me
"Me & my foreign friend "  & you say you're so open to everyone?
Dude...do you think before you write?

Don't get it twisted.  What I said is I judge each person on their own merit.  When you demonstrate to me that you are a simpleton, that is exactly how I will treat you.

What you and your "proud racist" friend do is judge people based on the color of their skin, their religion, sexual preference, and probably disability.  You don't live in the greatest country on earth, but we have laws on the books here precisely for people like you.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 22, 2025, 11:53:12 PM
Don't get it twisted.  What I said is I judge each person on their own merit.  When you demonstrate to me that you are a simpleton, that is exactly how I will treat you.

What you and your "proud racist" friend do is judge people based on the color of their skin, their religion, sexual preference, and probably disability.  You don't live in the greatest country on earth, but we have laws on the books here precisely for people like you.   
As I judge muslim immigrants on their actions such as gang rapes, stabbings..pushing young girls in font of trains

You're taking another Tantrum..very childish.
Again how old are you?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 23, 2025, 12:54:31 AM
As I judge muslim immigrants on their actions such as gang rapes, stabbings..pushing young girls in font of trains

You're taking another Tantrum..very childish.
Again how old are you?

A person who commits a crime should be punished.  What we don't do in America is punish people who have done nothing wrong, particularly if they are being targeted because of their race, religion, etc. 

It's patently obvious that you are not used to having your views questioned or challenged.  You likely exist in an echo chamber with like-minded people.  Very common.  That's why you are lashing out the way you are.  But it's ok.  I'm always willing to have discussions with people, regardless of how many tools they have in the toolbox. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 23, 2025, 02:03:55 AM
A person who commits a crime should be punished.  What we don't do in America is punish people who have done nothing wrong, particularly if they are being targeted because of their race, religion, etc. 

It's patently obvious that you are not used to having your views questioned or challenged.  You likely exist in an echo chamber with like-minded people.  Very common.  That's why you are lashing out the way you are.  But it's ok.  I'm always willing to have discussions with people, regardless of how many tools they have in the toolbox.

again please think before you post, the only lashing out with insults is you my friend..

Don't get it twisted.  What I said is I judge each person on their own merit. When you demonstrate to me that you are a simpleton, that is exactly how I will treat you.   

 :D you´re too easy for me
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 23, 2025, 08:06:01 AM
again please think before you post, the only lashing out with insults is you my friend..

 :D you´re too easy for me

And he thinks he's smart   ::)  Yep he doesnt reconize he's throwing
out "insults" thinks its others doing it to him   ;D

Very self Deluded I think he is.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2025, 03:08:49 PM
Very many on this board consider your postings & thoughts odd, bizarre, Fucked up,
Stupid, & often child like - & they frequently tell you.

You're at the top of the list of personal experience along with Funk, DJ & Bianca Bhanky.

Thanks for sharing. :)

Other than you, I have not noticed a lot of folks here telling me my posts and thoughts are odd, bizarre, fucked up. stupid and often childlike. Apparently, you pay more attention to what people say about me than I do.

The majority of folks who are most vocal on this board are politically and philosophically deeply conservative. I am not. Therefore, I expect them to disagree with me from time to time.
 
Funk and I sometimes agree, and we both tend to be more liberal than conservative. As best as I can tell, DJ and I are nothing alike, nor do Bhank and I have much in common; he tends to be boastful. I do not.

FYI, being the odd man out bothers me not at all as long as I am honest, true to myself, and my beliefs.       
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 23, 2025, 05:51:53 PM
Thanks for sharing. :)

Other than you, I have not noticed a lot of folks here telling me my posts and thoughts are odd, bizarre, fucked up. stupid and often childlike.     
That's just your bubble talking.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 23, 2025, 06:01:03 PM
That's just your bubble talking.

Maybe it is. I make it a point to try to ignore folks whose views are mostly negative and critical, especially when it pertains to me. So yes, this is a form of isolating myself in a bubble. Better this than letting the garbage other yahoos have to say bring me down. I am generally a happy and content person who is not inclined to let a few idiots get me down.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 23, 2025, 06:55:26 PM
Maybe it is. I make it a point to try to ignore folks whose views are mostly negative and critical, especially when it pertains to me. So yes, this is a form of isolating myself in a bubble. Better this than letting the garbage other yahoos have to say bring me down. I am generally a happy and content person who is not inclined to let a few idiots get me down.


At the least you admit you're living in a bubble.
Many have long said that about you.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2025, 06:23:47 AM
Maybe it is. I make it a point to try to ignore folks whose views are mostly negative and critical common sense and logical, especially when it pertains to me. So yes, this is a form of isolating myself in a bubble. Better this than letting the garbage other yahoos have to say bring me down. I am generally a happy and content person who is not inclined to let a few idiots get me down.
Fixed that for you there. We can all clearly see that you have no idea how to think on your own and simply regurgitate the leftist media talking points. You and funk are both old enough to know better but you both have that Joe Biden mental decline thing going on.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2025, 01:23:43 PM
Fixed that for you there. We can all clearly see that you have no idea how to think on your own and simply regurgitate the leftist media talking points. You and funk are both old enough to know better but you both have that Joe Biden mental decline thing going on.

Not fixed.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 24, 2025, 01:27:18 PM
Fixed that for you there. We can all clearly see that you have no idea how to think on your own and simply regurgitate the leftist media talking points. You and funk are both old enough to know better but you both have that Joe Biden mental decline thing going on.


Well Fixed.
Only the Loony Leftism in him has destroyed any common sense had
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2025, 02:01:11 PM

Well Fixed.
Only the Loony Leftism in him has destroyed any common sense had

You are hardly an expert on what constitutes common sense. Therefore your opinion on my level of common sense is meaningless.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2025, 06:14:25 PM

Well Fixed.
Only the Loony Leftism in him has destroyed any common sense had
Yes, the far leftist liberal media has warped and destroyed the minds of the weak and easy to brainwash.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 25, 2025, 11:25:05 AM
You are hardly an expert on what constitutes common sense. Therefore your opinion on my level of common sense is meaningless.

Hmmm Only Not so meaningless that you were compelled to reply.


 ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on September 25, 2025, 12:47:06 PM
Hmmm Only Not so meaningless that you were compelled to reply.


 ;D

Compelled? Hardly.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on September 25, 2025, 01:53:17 PM
Don't get it twisted.  What I said is I judge each person on their own merit.  When you demonstrate to me that you are a simpleton, that is exactly how I will treat you.

What you and your "proud racist" friend do is judge people based on the color of their skin, their religion, sexual preference, and probably disability.  You don't live in the greatest country on earth, but we have laws on the books here precisely for people like you.   

Well well, look who it is, mister arrogant calling others simpletons, making sweeping judgements on their iq and g factor.

I haven't been on as I have been busy so i have no idea what this convo has evolved into but its good to see your still flip flopping.

Dawg, the US isn't the greatest country on earth, not even close. The richest, sure, but china is quite rich as is a shit hole. Winning at capitalism maybe but objectively not the greatest nation on earth. The fact that you guys keep saying that shows your arrogance, is there any other country in the world people say this shit lololol
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on September 25, 2025, 01:56:07 PM
Compelled? Hardly.


And again - You not realising how stupid & contradictory you're coming across

Yep I'm so meaningless you're unable to ignore & are Compelled to reply.
Its Fucking Hilarious 😂🤣😂

Carry on 🤡
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on September 29, 2025, 12:47:31 PM
Well well, look who it is, mister arrogant calling others simpletons, making sweeping judgements on their iq and g factor.

I haven't been on as I have been busy so i have no idea what this convo has evolved into but its good to see your still flip flopping.

Dawg, the US isn't the greatest country on earth, not even close. The richest, sure, but china is quite rich as is a shit hole. Winning at capitalism maybe but objectively not the greatest nation on earth. The fact that you guys keep saying that shows your arrogance, is there any other country in the world people say this shit lololol

Bruh.  You are the one who called yourself a genius.  lol 

So you have no idea what was said, but you're going to inject yourself into the middle of the conversation.  Ok. 

Yes, this is the greatest country on earth.  It's the greatest country in the history of the world.  It's the country people from all around the world are dying to come to.  They want to experience the American dream.  They want freedom.  They want prosperity. 

You know what people don't want?  They don't want the government taking half or more of their income like they do in Canada.  Or facing prison time for "hate speech" like they do in Canada.  Or losing their kid and facing prison time for trying to prevent their child from sexual mutilation and sterilization with "gender affirming care" like they do in Canada.   
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on September 29, 2025, 01:01:30 PM
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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on September 29, 2025, 11:52:20 PM
No wonder they look the same  :D

https://journals.openedition.org/transatlantica/525
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 03:50:03 AM
Bruh.  You are the one who called yourself a genius.  lol 

So you have no idea what was said, but you're going to inject yourself into the middle of the conversation.  Ok. 

Yes, this is the greatest country on earth.  It's the greatest country in the history of the world.  It's the country people from all around the world are dying to come to.  They want to experience the American dream.  They want freedom.  They want prosperity. 

You know what people don't want?  They don't want the government taking half or more of their income like they do in Canada.  Or facing prison time for "hate speech" like they do in Canada.  Or losing their kid and facing prison time for trying to prevent their child from sexual mutilation and sterilization with "gender affirming care" like they do in Canada.   

Where did I say that? i more so insulted you and made a joke that went over your head.

Again, my comment went over your head lol.

HAHA!!! you are delusional lolol. What metrics?

You live on the internet, I know of no one that has gone to jail for any of that, i am sure you can find some insanely rare cases with nuance.

What metrics are you using?

https://www.narcity.com/canada-ranked-best-country-to-live-in

you are living in an idiocracy. Your economy is going downhill and your global standing is tanking. Farmers going out of business, losing beef and soy to china which will never come back requiring another bailout using the money from tariffs which is why they are failing in the first place! GENIUS STUFF!!

Honestly, keep going, its incredibly entertaining. Liberation day! the equation used was made by a 4 year old, oohhh bonds tanking, liberation day is off!

DOGE- multiple trillions in savings---- nothing at all. Clearly an illegal data grab for supporting his campaign.

A presidential meme coin HAHA. Firing the BLS stats reporter cus you don't like the data. Trying to force scientists to use the state backed journal. I mean the list goes on. Enjoy that fascism.

How is tourism going?

accepting jets from qatar, bringing false suits against enemies, shutting down congress to avoid swearing in a demo that could release pedophile files.

Canada is free as a bird brother. Weed is legal, shroom stores are open everywhere, I can say and do whatever I want, I haven't met a transgender in my actual life- they are pretty rare. Drugs are cheap and covered, healthcare is free.

In no place do they take 50% of what you make unless you are making over 200 (and I would imagine you understand they concept of brackets) and over 300k in some places.

I think what upsets you about the trans folks is that they exist and require support in ways you don't so its hard to empathize with them. I have never had gender dysphoria but its a real thing. I feel bad for the poor folks who have it and suffer. If there is evidence a treatment works to alleviate it I am all for it, other then that I don't care one bit and everyone I know feels the same. Its a niche area with huge political mutterings.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 03:52:30 AM
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its by definition fascism. Narc sociopaths are drawn to this behaviour- its a prerequisite.

I still cant get over the fact that he made a meme coin to steal from the US citizens and people are like, oh ya, thats cool, I am sure he isn't trying to enrich himself in every other way possible.

His speech to the UN was fucking comedy gold lololol.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2025, 05:30:02 AM
its by definition fascism. Narc sociopaths are drawn to this behaviour- its a prerequisite.

I still cant get over the fact that he made a meme coin to steal from the US citizens and people are like, oh ya, thats cool, I am sure he isn't trying to enrich himself in every other way possible.

His speech to the UN was fucking comedy gold lololol.

eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



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Youtube and Google admit to censorship during the Biden era:

Google Admits Censorship Under Biden; Promises to End Bans of YouTube Accounts of Thousands of Americans Censored for Political SpeechSeptember 23, 2025
Press Release
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, thanks to the oversight of Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH), Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube due to political speech violations on topics such as COVID-19 and elections an opportunity to return to the platform.

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Google also admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee:
The Biden Administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies.
The Biden Administration censorship pressure was "unacceptable and wrong."
Public debate should never come at the expense of relying "authorities."
The company will never use third-party "fact-checkers."
Europe's censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech, including the removal of "lawful content."
These major admissions come after Chairman Jordan's subpoena to Google and a years long investigation into the company.

Read the full letter from Google here.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 06:13:26 AM
eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.

His own people caused the escalator problem, thats been established lololol.

Bro, trump is talking about deploying military into cities, is using office to get rich out in the open, going after his political opponents, trying to nationalize research, is a full on authoritarian. You are comparing apples to oranges or an orange.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2025, 08:14:34 AM
His own people caused the escalator problem, thats been established lololol.

Bro, trump is talking about deploying military into cities, is using office to get rich out in the open, going after his political opponents, trying to nationalize research, is a full on authoritarian. You are comparing apples to oranges or an orange.

I know you don't know this, but.....it's neither authoritarian nor fascist. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 08:25:40 AM
I know you don't know this, but.....it's neither authoritarian nor fascist. Hope this helps.

Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Let's see dummy.

He is dictating things normally reserved for congress to dictate, unilaterally slapping tariffs on the world. Is 100% enriching himself and his buddies via numerous tactics, is threatening using the military on us soil and using cities as training grounds that his opposition run. Is firing and attempting to jail people opposed to him. Demanding seats in an election through gerrymandering. Shall I go on?

Its a clear slide into fascism. He is taking plays out of the playbook.

I know you aren't that bright but wake up. You should be embarrassed supporting such a moron. The guy causes soy and beef to plummet, farmers start crying, tariffs are the cause of the loss to china and other markets, plans to use the tariff money to keep them afloat! genius stuff!!!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2025, 08:52:48 AM
Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Let's see dummy.

He is dictating things normally reserved for congress to dictate, unilaterally slapping tariffs on the world. Is 100% enriching himself and his buddies via numerous tactics, is threatening using the military on us soil and using cities as training grounds that his opposition run. Is firing and attempting to jail people opposed to him. Demanding seats in an election through gerrymandering. Shall I go on?

Its a clear slide into fascism. He is taking plays out of the playbook.

I know you aren't that bright but wake up. You should be embarrassed supporting such a moron. The guy causes soy and beef to plummet, farmers start crying, tariffs are the cause of the loss to china and other markets, plans to use the tariff money to keep them afloat! genius stuff!!!

Yeah..this is the lefts narrative. You actually think this is the 1930's where real fascism took place. This ain't even remotely close to it. You can for sure make that argument this is what leftists are doing.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion" - Karl Marx

“Historically, fascism often involved illegal or extralegal actions to seize and maintain power, such as abolishing democratic institutions, banning opposition, and using violence to suppress dissent, as seen in regimes like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany. These actions typically violated existing legal frameworks or constitutions. In contrast, most modern right-wing movements in democratic countries operate within legal and constitutional bounds, participating in elections and adhering to established laws, even if their policies or rhetoric spark controversy. While critics may dislike certain decisions, those decisions are generally made through lawful processes, not through the overthrow of legal systems as fascism historically entailed.”

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 09:17:50 AM
Yeah..this is the lefts narrative. You actually think this is the 1930's where real fascism took place. This ain't even remotely close to it. You can for sure make that argument this is what leftists are doing.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion" - Karl Marx

“Historically, fascism often involved illegal or extralegal actions to seize and maintain power, such as abolishing democratic institutions, banning opposition, and using violence to suppress dissent, as seen in regimes like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany. These actions typically violated existing legal frameworks or constitutions. In contrast, most modern right-wing movements in democratic countries operate within legal and constitutional bounds, participating in elections and adhering to established laws, even if their policies or rhetoric spark controversy. While critics may dislike certain decisions, those decisions are generally made through lawful processes, not through the overthrow of legal systems as fascism historically entailed.”

Trump is skirting the law constantly lolol.

You never read das kapital bro, stop with the retard quotes. Thats not something karl marx said you imbecile, you are misquoting joseph goebbels at nuremberg. You have zero fucking clue about karl marx, he is like the boogeyman to you. Making up shit just like the rest of the shit you spew is nice though.

I am not sure why I even bother with you, you cannot have a coherent argument. Your points are never cogent or thought out and you constantly lie.

Where did I say it was the 1930s obviously fascism is on a gradient and context makes a huge difference. He is behaving in many ways like a fascist. It's getting worse and your country is suffering for it.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 09:20:35 AM
eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.

Maybe so, but he is taking it up a notch openly going after political opponents, firings of political opponents that are un-warrented - lisa cook for example, a farce- wanting to use dem cities as training grounds for the military etc.. its ratcheting up. I reckon if the left gets in next presidency it escalates and so on.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2025, 10:40:57 AM
Maybe so, but he is taking it up a notch openly going after political opponents, firings of political opponents that are un-warrented - lisa cook for example, a farce- wanting to use dem cities as training grounds for the military etc.. its ratcheting up. I reckon if the left gets in next presidency it escalates and so on.

No doubt.

But it's not unexpected, it's a known part of the package, for better or worse.  I love some of it, but really dislike some of it too.

The fascinating thing is, if he's so bad, the left should be able to capitalize and continue the cycle you mentioned above.......but they are failing miserably.  They're actually getting worse.  They need to get rid of their old legacy elephants like Schumer and Pelosi, and get young folks who are moderate and appealing rather than jackasses like The Squad, Swalwell, Booker, Crocket, etc......those folks do not appeal to normal folks.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 10:57:16 AM
No doubt.

But it's not unexpected, it's a known part of the package, for better or worse.  I love some of it, but really dislike some of it too.

The fascinating thing is, if he's so bad, the left should be able to capitalize and continue the cycle you mentioned above.......but they are failing miserably.  They're actually getting worse.  They need to get rid of their old legacy elephants like Schumer and Pelosi, and get young folks who are moderate and appealing rather than jackasses like The Squad, Swalwell, Booker, Crocket, etc......those folks do not appeal to normal folks.

I think the parties are more similar at the top then disparate. I am more of a moderate, I don't care what trans people do, I thin men are men and women are women but I don't like authoritarian non-sense, dumb fiscal policies that are short sighted and outright lies.

The fact that they he keeps saying the money tariffs are bringing in is an insult to folks intelligence. I generally see him as not that bright, very simplistic in his world view and frankly unfit to lead a country. Maybe I am off in this but where are the principled folks like John McCain, the ones with integrity and values that weren't up for sale.

Maybe thats a phantom that never was but this current admins obvious money grab and corruption (they all are mind you, but there are levels) see intransigent.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2025, 11:19:29 AM
I think the parties are more similar at the top then disparate. I am more of a moderate, I don't care what trans people do, I thin men are men and women are women but I don't like authoritarian non-sense, dumb fiscal policies that are short sighted and outright lies.

The fact that they he keeps saying the money tariffs are bringing in is an insult to folks intelligence. I generally see him as not that bright, very simplistic in his world view and frankly unfit to lead a country. Maybe I am off in this but where are the principled folks like John McCain, the ones with integrity and values that weren't up for sale.

Maybe thats a phantom that never was but this current admins obvious money grab and corruption (they all are mind you, but there are levels) see intransigent.

I agree with the first statement 100%.  Don't care what folks do, just don't expect normal folks to give special treatment or act like you're oppressed.  And stay away from kids.

As far as tarriffs, I will judge by how our economy is doing in 2026.  That's fair time to see if what he's doing will spur growth or not.  If it does, give the Rs the next election.  If it doesn't, the midterms will reflect.

But I am still of the belief that no matter you think of Trump, TDS is real, and it did cause the left to abandon their morals at best, and commit treason at worst.  The lawfare, weaponization of the judicial system, phony impeachments, the silencing of individuals, and attempting to control the media are all real things the last admin did, and there needs to be accountability and punishment so it doesn't happen again.

So, if it takes a guy who makes $ off dipshits who buy his meme coin to accomplish the above, I'll take the bad with the good.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2025, 11:30:41 AM
Trump is skirting the law constantly lolol.

You never read das kapital bro, stop with the retard quotes. Thats not something karl marx said you imbecile, you are misquoting joseph goebbels at nuremberg. You have zero fucking clue about karl marx, he is like the boogeyman to you. Making up shit just like the rest of the shit you spew is nice though.

I am not sure why I even bother with you, you cannot have a coherent argument. Your points are never cogent or thought out and you constantly lie.

Where did I say it was the 1930s obviously fascism is on a gradient and context makes a huge difference. He is behaving in many ways like a fascist. It's getting worse and your country is suffering for it.

Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 12:59:44 PM
Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.

Great point!

Post some more made up quotes if you don't mind. The idea I am a high earning professional appears to upset you, very odd. You addressed zero points and ignored the fact that you literally used a made up quote.

I realize you do not fact check things and are right till you die but try to calm that amygdala and use your prefrontal cortex sometime, more so orbitofrontal but anything near the front would be good for you.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 01:05:06 PM
Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.

Wait I didnt see the claim that I've lost debates on medical issues lol what was that exactly?

 I am excited to hear what you think medical is and what I lost, truly.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on October 01, 2025, 02:19:30 PM
Where did I say that? i more so insulted you and made a joke that went over your head.

Again, my comment went over your head lol.

HAHA!!! you are delusional lolol. What metrics?

You live on the internet, I know of no one that has gone to jail for any of that, i am sure you can find some insanely rare cases with nuance.

What metrics are you using?

https://www.narcity.com/canada-ranked-best-country-to-live-in

you are living in an idiocracy. Your economy is going downhill and your global standing is tanking. Farmers going out of business, losing beef and soy to china which will never come back requiring another bailout using the money from tariffs which is why they are failing in the first place! GENIUS STUFF!!

Honestly, keep going, its incredibly entertaining. Liberation day! the equation used was made by a 4 year old, oohhh bonds tanking, liberation day is off!

DOGE- multiple trillions in savings---- nothing at all. Clearly an illegal data grab for supporting his campaign.

A presidential meme coin HAHA. Firing the BLS stats reporter cus you don't like the data. Trying to force scientists to use the state backed journal. I mean the list goes on. Enjoy that fascism.

How is tourism going?

accepting jets from qatar, bringing false suits against enemies, shutting down congress to avoid swearing in a demo that could release pedophile files.

Canada is free as a bird brother. Weed is legal, shroom stores are open everywhere, I can say and do whatever I want, I haven't met a transgender in my actual life- they are pretty rare. Drugs are cheap and covered, healthcare is free.

In no place do they take 50% of what you make unless you are making over 200 (and I would imagine you understand they concept of brackets) and over 300k in some places.

I think what upsets you about the trans folks is that they exist and require support in ways you don't so its hard to empathize with them. I have never had gender dysphoria but its a real thing. I feel bad for the poor folks who have it and suffer. If there is evidence a treatment works to alleviate it I am all for it, other then that I don't care one bit and everyone I know feels the same. Its a niche area with huge political mutterings.

You don't know what's happening in your own country. 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 01, 2025, 02:31:59 PM
You don't know what's happening in your own country.

avg to below avg iq detected.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on October 01, 2025, 02:43:01 PM
avg to below avg iq detected.

You are still the dumbest genius ever.  lol  ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Moontrane on October 01, 2025, 04:50:42 PM
Yeah..this is the lefts narrative. You actually think this is the 1930's where real fascism took place. This ain't even remotely close to it. You can for sure make that argument this is what leftists are doing.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion" - Karl Marx

“Historically, fascism often involved illegal or extralegal actions to seize and maintain power, such as abolishing democratic institutions, banning opposition, and using violence to suppress dissent, as seen in regimes like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany. These actions typically violated existing legal frameworks or constitutions. In contrast, most modern right-wing movements in democratic countries operate within legal and constitutional bounds, participating in elections and adhering to established laws, even if their policies or rhetoric spark controversy. While critics may dislike certain decisions, those decisions are generally made through lawful processes, not through the overthrow of legal systems as fascism historically entailed.”

Obama had forty-four 9-0 SCOTUS decisions against his policies. 

C'mon Trump, measure up!  ;D
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 02, 2025, 04:32:51 AM
You are still the dumbest genius ever.  lol  ;D

Highly insulting and upsetting.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 04, 2025, 06:10:29 AM
Hey boys

Looks like the US is losing jobs at a pretty good pace here, probably not good.

Inflation is up, beef up about 14% year over year

Soybean farmers and farmers in general gonna need a bailout from the tariffs and trade wars. Looks like China, your biggest importer stopped all purchases. that can't be good.

Tourism looks to be sharply declining as well.

Not good.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 04, 2025, 08:37:54 AM
Hey boys

Looks like the US is losing jobs at a pretty good pace here, probably not good.

Inflation is up, beef up about 14% year over year

Soybean farmers and farmers in general gonna need a bailout from the tariffs and trade wars. Looks like China, your biggest importer stopped all purchases. that can't be good.

Tourism looks to be sharply declining as well.

Not good.
Thank God. Maybe you foreigners will stay away.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 04, 2025, 11:29:31 AM
Thank God. Maybe you foreigners will stay away.

super rude
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 05, 2025, 10:20:17 AM
Hey boys

Looks like the US is losing jobs at a pretty good pace here, probably not good.

Inflation is up, beef up about 14% year over year

Soybean farmers and farmers in general gonna need a bailout from the tariffs and trade wars. Looks like China, your biggest importer stopped all purchases. that can't be good.

Tourism looks to be sharply declining as well.

Not good.

According to folks, we are supposed to be living underground due to climate change, or under nazi rule by this time.

So forgive me if I don't worry too much about some economic blips.

I'm happy my President is taking a long term gamble on economic growth, getting our military stronger, dismantling the lying sack of shit media, obliterating the other party to the point where even those dumbasses will realize they need to reboot, closing the southern border, deporting criminals, protecting women's sports, forcing other countries to pay for their own defense, attempting to punish those who weaponized our judicial systems, trying to get drug prices under control, and trying more than any other President to negotiate world peace.

All in the short span of 9 months.

But thank for doing the worrying for us about the $1 or so more we might have to spend per pound of beef.

I will pay you back by being concerned for your country's government attempt to disarm you.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2025, 10:31:42 AM
Hey boys

Looks like the US is losing jobs at a pretty good pace here, probably not good.

Inflation is up, beef up about 14% year over year

Soybean farmers and farmers in general gonna need a bailout from the tariffs and trade wars. Looks like China, your biggest importer stopped all purchases. that can't be good.

Tourism looks to be sharply declining as well.

Not good.

It is good since the majority are government jobs, deportations and self deportations
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 05, 2025, 11:32:18 AM
It is good since the majority are government jobs, deportations and self deportations

LOL

you just can't stop bullshitting.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 05, 2025, 11:41:34 AM
LOL

you just can't stop bullshitting.

How is the Canadian economy ??
Is it better than the US ??
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2025, 01:52:55 AM
How is the Canadian economy ??
Is it better than the US ??

Use my pronouns please.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 06, 2025, 07:25:34 AM
Use my pronouns please.

Khvnt -Twat - Idiot - Queer boy
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2025, 08:16:54 AM
Khvnt -Twat - Idiot - Queer boy

Very rude
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 06, 2025, 08:51:39 AM
LOL

you just can't stop bullshitting.

Are you saying that’s not happening?? Seriously?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2025, 09:09:59 AM
Are you saying that’s not happening?? Seriously?

Only you would say its good that the economy is losing jobs. I know manufacturing is booming right now!!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 06, 2025, 11:20:47 AM
Very rude

No - Just very accurate - Truth hurts you

You are a KHVNT- TWAT - IDIOT & QUEER BOY
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 06, 2025, 12:45:01 PM
Only you would say its good that the economy is losing jobs. I know manufacturing is booming right now!!

You know we voted on shrinking the Government and Illegal Immigration, right? He's not doing anything we didn't vote for
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 06, 2025, 12:57:03 PM
You know we voted on shrinking the Government and Illegal Immigration, right? He's not doing anything we didn't vote for

Illegal aliens are not being counted in job loss. The recent jobs reports were abysmal. The economy is slowing down, prices are rising and the world hates you.


You understand you are not adding jobs in key areas and are losing jobs in those areas right? so if you voted for job loss in key areas and a slowdown in hiring in the private sector then you are in fact getting what you asked for.


Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2025, 02:47:07 AM
Hey coach, the US dollar is down 10% since trump took office, pretty stellar.

Let's recap

Job's bleeding
farmers bankrupt needing another bailout from the self inflicted pain of voting for trump...TWICE
GDP slowing
no trade deals to speak of- allies going elsewhere
Tourism down substantially
inflation increasing substantially
dollar losing substantial value
bond markets crying
several trillion being added to the debt

Great stuff.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 07, 2025, 06:21:58 AM
Hey coach, the US dollar is down 10% since trump took office, pretty stellar.

Let's recap

Job's bleeding
farmers bankrupt needing another bailout from the self inflicted pain of voting for trump...TWICE
GDP slowing
no trade deals to speak of- allies going elsewhere
Tourism down substantially
inflation increasing substantially
dollar losing substantial value
bond markets crying
several trillion being added to the debt

Great stuff.
Perfect to keep mooches and lowlife leeches like you foreigners away.  :)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2025, 09:12:43 AM
Perfect to keep mooches and lowlife leeches like you foreigners away.  :)

do you think you could beat me in a no holds barred cage fight?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 07, 2025, 09:24:50 AM
Hey coach, the US dollar is down 10% since trump took office, pretty stellar.

Let's recap

Job's bleeding
farmers bankrupt needing another bailout from the self inflicted pain of voting for trump...TWICE
GDP slowing
no trade deals to speak of- allies going elsewhere
Tourism down substantially
inflation increasing substantially
dollar losing substantial value
bond markets crying
several trillion being added to the debt

Great stuff.

According to folks, we are supposed to be living underground due to climate change, or under nazi rule by this time.

So forgive me if I don't worry too much about some economic blips.

I'm happy my President is taking a long term gamble on economic growth, getting our military stronger, dismantling the lying sack of shit media, obliterating the other party to the point where even those dumbasses will realize they need to reboot, closing the southern border, deporting criminals, protecting women's sports, forcing other countries to pay for their own defense, attempting to punish those who weaponized our judicial systems, trying to get drug prices under control, and trying more than any other President to negotiate world peace.

All in the short span of 9 months.

But thank for doing the worrying for us about the $1 or so more we might have to spend per pound of beef.

I will pay you back by being concerned for your country's government attempt to disarm you.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 07, 2025, 01:03:44 PM
do you think you could beat me in a no holds barred cage fight?



Hey Queer Boy - Twat - Idiot - Khvnt
Word is that you very frequently beat your Boyfriend around his Ring.


Note your preferred "pronouns" used.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 07, 2025, 01:17:49 PM
According to folks, we are supposed to be living underground due to climate change, or under nazi rule by this time.

So forgive me if I don't worry too much about some economic blips.

I'm happy my President is taking a long term gamble on economic growth, getting our military stronger, dismantling the lying sack of shit media, obliterating the other party to the point where even those dumbasses will realize they need to reboot, closing the southern border, deporting criminals, protecting women's sports, forcing other countries to pay for their own defense, attempting to punish those who weaponized our judicial systems, trying to get drug prices under control, and trying more than any other President to negotiate world peace.

All in the short span of 9 months.

But thank for doing the worrying for us about the $1 or so more we might have to spend per pound of beef.

I will pay you back by being concerned for your country's government attempt to disarm you.

Do you deny climate change is occurring and is man made?  where do you stand on this issue?

As for the economics any credible economist would point out that what he is doing is silly, so its a dumb gamble

The military doesn't need to be stronger, it goes against the logic of making others pay for their defense. The media is shit on both sides. Fox is the most egregious to my mind. womens sports I am fine with, border is fine, the way he is going about deporting criminals is not in keeping with the constitution as there is a frank lack of due process, in theory its fine, execution wise not so hot.

The whole world peace thing is him begging for a nobel.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 07, 2025, 01:28:06 PM
Do you deny climate change is occurring and is man made?  where do you stand on this issue?

As for the economics any credible economist would point out that what he is doing is silly, so its a dumb gamble

The military doesn't need to be stronger, it goes against the logic of making others pay for their defense. The media is shit on both sides. Fox is the most egregious to my mind. womens sports I am fine with, border is fine, the way he is going about deporting criminals is not in keeping with the constitution as there is a frank lack of due process, in theory its fine, execution wise not so hot.

The whole world peace thing is him begging for a nobel.

A guy from MIT who travels the world testing this stuff told me that they know climate change happens, they know it can be affected by people, but to what extent they were not sure.  That's about the last time I ever discussed this stuff.  I've caught a few podcasts where it's come up, but not really that interested in it.

For the economics comment, didn't the CBO say Trump's plan would spur growth and reduced the debt a few trillion?  Originally they didn't, but I know it changed.  Did it change again?

I knew when Trump said he was going on a deportation spree, the media would concentrate on the mistakes and ignore everything else.  They would do their best to create bad optics, so none of this is a surprise.

As far as media bias, the left is infinitely worse than Fox news, and it's not even close.

As far as world peace, I don't care what his motivations are - if his ego aligns with getting wars to stop, I'm fine.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 07, 2025, 05:51:38 PM
do you think you could beat me in a no holds barred cage fight?
I'm too old for that.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2025, 08:57:09 PM
Do you deny climate change is occurring and is man made?  where do you stand on this issue?

As for the economics any credible economist would point out that what he is doing is silly, so its a dumb gamble

The military doesn't need to be stronger, it goes against the logic of making others pay for their defense. The media is shit on both sides. Fox is the most egregious to my mind. womens sports I am fine with, border is fine, the way he is going about deporting criminals is not in keeping with the constitution as there is a frank lack of due process, in theory its fine, execution wise not so hot.

The whole world peace thing is him begging for a nobel.

“Climate change” is a factual hoax and tax grab and I’ll bet you probably follow follow socialist “economists” like Krugman and that other midget Robert Reich
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2025, 03:29:08 AM
A guy from MIT who travels the world testing this stuff told me that they know climate change happens, they know it can be affected by people, but to what extent they were not sure.  That's about the last time I ever discussed this stuff.  I've caught a few podcasts where it's come up, but not really that interested in it.

For the economics comment, didn't the CBO say Trump's plan would spur growth and reduced the debt a few trillion?  Originally they didn't, but I know it changed.  Did it change again?

I knew when Trump said he was going on a deportation spree, the media would concentrate on the mistakes and ignore everything else.  They would do their best to create bad optics, so none of this is a surprise.

As far as media bias, the left is infinitely worse than Fox news, and it's not even close.

As far as world peace, I don't care what his motivations are - if his ego aligns with getting wars to stop, I'm fine.


Climate change is real and human driven right now. there are other factors but digging up stored CO2 that took billions or years to deposit and burning it into the atmosphere at rapid rates is creating substantially changes. There are a plethora of other factors but 97% of climate scientists agree its being driven by man, the rapid shift that is. It's a non-linear chaotic system but its been documented 10 ways to sunday.

I will address the other points as I have to work.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2025, 03:31:05 AM
“Climate change” is a factual hoax and tax grab and I’ll bet you probably follow follow socialist “economists” like Krugman and that other midget Robert Reich

How so?  how is is not factual?

You are really anti-science, yet you sit there and use a computer created with technics. From the drugs you use, to the vehicle you drive, the phone that uses satellites all science...

show me this evidence.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 08, 2025, 11:25:30 AM

Climate change is real and human driven right now. there are other factors but digging up stored CO2 that took billions or years to deposit and burning it into the atmosphere at rapid rates is creating substantially changes. There are a plethora of other factors but 97% of climate scientists agree its being driven by man, the rapid shift that is. It's a non-linear chaotic system but its been documented 10 ways to sunday.

I will address the other points as I have to work.

Please include sources.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 08, 2025, 11:31:40 AM

Climate change is real and human driven right now. there are other factors but digging up stored CO2 that took billions or years to deposit and burning it into the atmosphere at rapid rates is creating substantially changes. There are a plethora of other factors but 97% of climate scientists agree its being driven by man, the rapid shift that is. It's a non-linear chaotic system but its been documented 10 ways to sunday.

I will address the other points as I have to work.


Okay Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


The Last ice age - was that caused / driven by Humans ?

Oh & when the earth warmed up & the Ice melted was that
also caused / driven by Humans ?

Or was it a natural phenomenon 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2025, 03:13:44 PM

Okay Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


The Last ice age - was that caused / driven by Humans ?

Oh & when the earth warmed up & the Ice melted was that
also caused / driven by Humans ?

Or was it a natural phenomenon


Oh ... you actually don't understand the argument. This makes sense why you wouldn't believe the facts of the matter, you haven't taken the time to understand what the scientists mean by human driven climate change.

what you are saying is animals have always died the scientist says yes but there has been an increase in deaths that do not fit the pattern and using proven statistical metrics and predictive models we can tell that human caused vehicle collisions with animals has increased the death rate. You retort, but animals have always died in some years more than others, before cars!! The scientist points out that we have data stretching back thousands of years and can see the fluctuations and degree of rise in deaths and this increase since the 1930's is 15x the normal pattern in any year decade measured and the fastest rate of any century.

Do you understand now? its not that the world hasn't been hotter or that it hasn't been colder the climate is a dynamic system, its a process, thus its always by definition in a state of change, the rate of change is the problem.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 08, 2025, 03:23:38 PM
Please include sources.

I mean I could post endless sources, do you want the papers or reports? its an indisputable fact, almost every single peer reviewed paper in existence on the topic from all the experts around the world agree. It's not even a debate, its simply a fact. Where its a hyperobject and is no where in particular because its everywhere its hard to see, however, thanks to science we know germs exist and we know that global warming is occurring as it has many times, this time its human driven and rapid. In the past it could have been the suns proximity (a big factor) volcanic activity, changes in ocean currents etc.

There isn't one piece of evidence that is contrary to this fact. Flowers in the northern hemisphere bloom earlier, migration patterns of animals, habitats of animals moving north, emissions data, sea data, ice core etc etc etc.... all say the same thing. You would have to be an absolute moron to think otherwise or have some skin in the game and make science political.

Sure you could find some arsehole or some creation scientist talking out of his ass skewing everything but the fact remains, the world over, every climate scientist, close to 100%, every organization, every country with any reputable scientists all agree. We barely have this kind of consensus in any area of science.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/#:~:text=With%20that%20said%2C%20multiple%20studies%20published%20in,have%20issued%20public%20statements%20endorsing%20this%20position.

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change#:~:text=By%20Krishna%20Ramanujan%20More%20than%2099.9%25%20of,a%20new%20survey%20of%2088%2C125%20climate%2Drelated%20studies.


https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/what-evidence-exists-earth-warming-and-humans-are-main-cause


https://www.epa.gov/climatechange-science/causes-climate-change#:~:text=Natural%20Processes-,Human%20Versus%20Natural%20Causes,the%20atmosphere%2C%20ocean%20and%20land.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 08, 2025, 03:43:29 PM
You would have to be an absolute moron to think otherwise or have some skin in the game and make science political.


I wonder how many climate change "scientists" make their living from the increased taxes the general population is forced to pay in order to "fix" climate change? ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2025, 05:01:41 PM
I wonder how many climate change "scientists" make their living from the increased taxes the general population is forced to pay in order to "fix" climate change? ::)

How many scientists are paid with tax dollars is nearly impossible to know,, but I think it is safe to say most are since the vast majority of the funding for mainstream research comes from federal sources, which includes the National Science Foundation (NSF), NASA, NOAA, and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). A smaller number of them are funded by private entities who contribute to climate change research.

My guess is that one of the main reasons some folks are against climate change research is because they do not believe they should have to pay for it. I wonder what percentage of tax dollars goes to climate change research. It is likely less than 1% of total tax revenue. The average federal income tax is around $14,000. This would suggest the average taxpayer pays $140 a year for scientific climate change research.

How much covers scientists’ salaries is difficult to calculate but is not much because the majority is allocated to operational costs like equipment, lab supplies, travel, and the salaries of graduate assistants and other staff and grants.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 08, 2025, 05:38:27 PM
How many scientists are paid with tax dollars is nearly impossible to know,, but I think it is safe to say most are since the vast majority of the funding for mainstream research comes from federal sources, which includes the National Science Foundation (NSF), NASA, NOAA, and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). A smaller number of them are funded by private entities who contribute to climate change research.

My guess is that one of the main reasons some folks are against climate change research is because they do not believe they should have to pay for it. I wonder what percentage of tax dollars goes to climate change research. It is likely less than 1% of total tax revenue. The average federal income tax is around $14,000. This would suggest the average taxpayer pays $140 a year for scientific climate change research.

How much covers scientists’ salaries is difficult to calculate but is not much because the majority is allocated to operational costs like equipment, lab supplies, travel, and the salaries of graduate assistants and other staff and grants.
Dumbass.

Auto registration funds have significantly impacted climate research and initiatives, particularly through programs aimed at promoting electric vehicles (EVs).
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2025, 06:39:23 PM

Oh ... you actually don't understand the argument. This makes sense why you wouldn't believe the facts of the matter, you haven't taken the time to understand what the scientists mean by human driven climate change.

what you are saying is animals have always died the scientist says yes but there has been an increase in deaths that do not fit the pattern and using proven statistical metrics and predictive models we can tell that human caused vehicle collisions with animals has increased the death rate. You retort, but animals have always died in some years more than others, before cars!! The scientist points out that we have data stretching back thousands of years and can see the fluctuations and degree of rise in deaths and this increase since the 1930's is 15x the normal pattern in any year decade measured and the fastest rate of any century.

Do you understand now? its not that the world hasn't been hotter or that it hasn't been colder the climate is a dynamic system, its a process, thus its always by definition in a state of change, the rate of change is the problem.

This is Greta Thunberg approved.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on October 08, 2025, 06:41:24 PM
I wonder how many climate change "scientists" make their living from the increased taxes the general population is forced to pay in order to "fix" climate change? ::)

How dare you!   >:(

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 08, 2025, 08:32:18 PM

Oh ... you actually don't understand the argument. This makes sense why you wouldn't believe the facts of the matter, you haven't taken the time to understand what the scientists mean by human driven climate change.

what you are saying is animals have always died the scientist says yes but there has been an increase in deaths that do not fit the pattern and using proven statistical metrics and predictive models we can tell that human caused vehicle collisions with animals has increased the death rate. You retort, but animals have always died in some years more than others, before cars!! The scientist points out that we have data stretching back thousands of years and can see the fluctuations and degree of rise in deaths and this increase since the 1930's is 15x the normal pattern in any year decade measured and the fastest rate of any century.

Do you understand now? its not that the world hasn't been hotter or that it hasn't been colder the climate is a dynamic system, its a process, thus its always by definition in a state of change, the rate of change is the problem.

Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

Glad  you understand the world is always in a state of change
And it is changing.

Seems we'll just get colder or warmer quicker then.
Stop worrying about everything & enjoy your limited time
on this planet.
All that doom & gloom isnt good for you Pronoun Boy.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 03:23:06 AM
I wonder how many climate change "scientists" make their living from the increased taxes the general population is forced to pay in order to "fix" climate change? ::)

Dude its the whole world! lololol.

Private institutes, people on salary at nasa, all the research. Your argument is insane and super paranoid. If you think a career PHD is making extra bucks pumping out studies on ice core samples then I don't know what to tell you. If you think every organization in the world that tracks the data is fudging it to increase tax revenue then you are being juvenile and do not live in the real world. What I am referring to is morons who ignore the data and say exactly what you are saying, its a farce created by big energy (they would want the opposite) the world over to steal your money.

It's simply a fact. People could take advantage of that fact as they did with covid or any other fact aka make a political argument but if you believe the opposite of what every credible scientist and organization in the whole world (russia, china, france, australia, canada, us etc) are saying in unison then you are the issue.

If someone could provide counter efvidence in the form of a study they would make way more money then corroboration, any refutation of the narrative would gain them world wide notariety and likely a nobel at this point. However, they can't because there are 100s of pieces of evidence that all point in the same direction, only a lunatic would deny it, its beyond a reasonable doubt.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 03:24:16 AM
This is Greta Thunberg approved.

Do you believe in evolution?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 03:29:33 AM
Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

Glad  you understand the world is always in a state of change
And it is changing.

Seems we'll just get colder or warmer quicker then.
Stop worrying about everything & enjoy your limited time
on this planet.
All that doom & gloom isnt good for you Pronoun Boy.

heraclitus pointed that out a long time ago, process ontology is correct. Glad you agree.

I am not sure if you are familiar with the term delta but the delta is too high.

your blood pressure always changes, if it changes too fast you have problems. Your argument is silly. I realize you aren't all that smart but I actually enjoy learning about reality rather then living in my own bubble of ignorance. It certainly doesn't stress me, but that attitude is very unserious and very immature.

I assume you don't have kids? Your attitude is exactly in line with other far right lunatics, no compassion for others, selfish as all hell and haven't realized that allocentricity is the key to happiness. Your little existence will go out with a wimper and no one will care because you didn't.

Focus on yourself brother, keep posing for people to feel more secure with your body dysmorphia and ride the waves of elation and ennui that come with narcissism.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2025, 03:38:35 AM
heraclitus pointed that out a long time ago, process ontology is correct. Glad you agree.

I am not sure if you are familiar with the term delta but the delta is too high.

your blood pressure always changes, if it changes too fast you have problems. Your argument is silly. I realize you aren't all that smart but I actually enjoy learning about reality rather then living in my own bubble of ignorance. It certainly doesn't stress me, but that attitude is very unserious and very immature.

I assume you don't have kids? Your attitude is exactly in line with other far right lunatics, no compassion for others, selfish as all hell and haven't realized that allocentricity is the key to happiness. Your little existence will go out with a wimper and no one will care because you didn't.

Focus on yourself brother, keep posing for people to feel more secure with your body dysmorphia and ride the waves of elation and ennui that come with narcissism.


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


And that's the best you can reply  ::)
Stick to large colour crayon drawings - that's about your level
& worrying about your Pronoun usage.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 04:00:23 AM

Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


And that's the best you can reply  ::)
Stick to large colour crayon drawings - that's about your level
& worrying about your Pronoun usage.


meltdown!!! ;D ;D ;D ::) :P :P :-* :-* :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2025, 06:04:25 AM

meltdown!!! ;D ;D ;D ::) :P :P :-* :-* :'( :'( :'(


Promoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer boy

You are a Fool
as you've no answer - You resort to being stupid.  ::)
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 09, 2025, 06:28:39 AM
Dude its the whole world! lololol.

Private institutes, people on salary at nasa, all the research. Your argument is insane and super paranoid. If you think a career PHD is making extra bucks pumping out studies on ice core samples then I don't know what to tell you. If you think every organization in the world that tracks the data is fudging it to increase tax revenue then you are being juvenile and do not live in the real world. What I am referring to is morons who ignore the data and say exactly what you are saying, its a farce created by big energy (they would want the opposite) the world over to steal your money.

It's simply a fact. People could take advantage of that fact as they did with covid or any other fact aka make a political argument but if you believe the opposite of what every credible scientist and organization in the whole world (russia, china, france, australia, canada, us etc) are saying in unison then you are the issue.

If someone could provide counter efvidence in the form of a study they would make way more money then corroboration, any refutation of the narrative would gain them world wide notariety and likely a nobel at this point. However, they can't because there are 100s of pieces of evidence that all point in the same direction, only a lunatic would deny it, its beyond a reasonable doubt.
You need to separate two things, climate change and manmade. Let's pretend I've bought into your stupidity and agreed that climate change is 100% manmade, how does paying more taxes stop it?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 10:15:33 AM
You need to separate two things, climate change and manmade. Let's pretend I've bought into your stupidity and agreed that climate change is 100% manmade, how does paying more taxes stop it?

The climate can't not change, just your like your body, entropy ensures that.

its like saying my weight fluctuates up and down and then you take gear and all of sudden you get swolliosis. You then claim because your body is always changing it cannot be from something novel to the system.

I dont know about taxes, I have not read if carbon taxes help. I think its likely too late anyway we will just have to deal with the fallout. Obviously switching to renewables makes sense, stopping massive deforestation, carbon capture startups etc.

Do I think retards will try and take advantage of this situation, yes, do I think that reflects on the veracity of the claims made the world over, no.

We are in end stage capitalism now, accumulation is the name of the game with the idea of endless profit. Humans and the environment are a standing reserve, resources to be used in the name of capital. The inequality is widening, the situation will not improve economically, its baked into the system. Nothing will likely be done as capital is now the ruling class, not humans.

I just don't see how you stop a system that has evolved beyond our control.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 09, 2025, 12:23:38 PM
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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 12:47:27 PM
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These are fucking politicians. Do you realize that politicians don't know fuck all? I am not even watching that retarded video. I don't care what a non-expert has to say, nor what an non-expert is doing questioning him.

Do you have zero credentials for your profession? Do you get all of your information regarding the world from the news?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 09, 2025, 01:30:19 PM
These are fucking politicians. Do you realize that politicians don't know fuck all? I am not even watching that retarded video. I don't care what a non-expert has to say, nor what an non-expert is doing questioning him.

Do you have zero credentials for your profession? Do you get all of your information regarding the world from the news?

The entire fake “climate change crisis” was made up by politicians.

“Massie earned a Bachelor of Science in electrical engineering (1993) and a Master of Science in mechanical engineering (1996) from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). His master’s thesis focused on haptic interfaces for virtual touch technology. At MIT, he excelled in competitions, including winning the 1992 2.70 Design Competition and placing sixth in the 1990 GM Sunrayce with the MIT Solar Electric Vehicle Team.”
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2025, 02:04:39 PM
Do you believe in evolution?

How dare you!   >:(
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 02:57:55 PM
How dare you!   >:(

i apologize.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2025, 02:58:36 PM
The entire fake “climate change crisis” was made up by politicians.

“Massie earned a Bachelor of Science in electrical engineering (1993) and a Master of Science in mechanical engineering (1996) from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). His master’s thesis focused on haptic interfaces for virtual touch technology. At MIT, he excelled in competitions, including winning the 1992 2.70 Design Competition and placing sixth in the 1990 GM Sunrayce with the MIT Solar Electric Vehicle Team.”

you are insane.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 09, 2025, 04:01:45 PM
you are insane.

Thomas Massie is as close to a good politician as you can get.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2025, 04:29:22 PM
you are insane.

Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy


Yes you are Insane
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 09, 2025, 04:47:59 PM
The climate can't not change, just your like your body, entropy ensures that.

its like saying my weight fluctuates up and down and then you take gear and all of sudden you get swolliosis. You then claim because your body is always changing it cannot be from something novel to the system.

I dont know about taxes, I have not read if carbon taxes help. I think its likely too late anyway we will just have to deal with the fallout. Obviously switching to renewables makes sense, stopping massive deforestation, carbon capture startups etc.

Do I think retards will try and take advantage of this situation, yes, do I think that reflects on the veracity of the claims made the world over, no.

We are in end stage capitalism now, accumulation is the name of the game with the idea of endless profit. Humans and the environment are a standing reserve, resources to be used in the name of capital. The inequality is widening, the situation will not improve economically, its baked into the system. Nothing will likely be done as capital is now the ruling class, not humans.

I just don't see how you stop a system that has evolved beyond our control.
Reread what you wrote and apply it to the opposite of what you believe.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 10, 2025, 03:15:15 AM
Thomas Massie is as close to a good politician as you can get.

I am sure he is, couldn't care less about what he thinks about things he has no education in or understanding of.

Get the facts from the experts and make policy based on evidence. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 10, 2025, 03:16:46 AM
Reread what you wrote and apply it to the opposite of what you believe.

so every expert is wrong?

Do you live your life without trusting experts?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Donny on October 10, 2025, 05:05:00 AM
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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 10, 2025, 05:16:11 PM
so every expert is wrong?

Do you live your life without trusting experts?
Not "every expert" agrees. Remember science is there to be challenged, right?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 11, 2025, 12:15:11 PM
Not "every expert" agrees. Remember science is there to be challenged, right?

Its about 97 to 99% agree that man is driving it mostly. There are obviously disputes on many factors, ideas etc.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 11, 2025, 12:53:20 PM
Its about 97 to 99% agree that man is driving it mostly. There are obviously disputes on many factors, ideas etc.
Not hard to do when you're ostracized if you disagree. We all saw the same with the poison that the government forced on people when they decided covid was profitable.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 11, 2025, 12:58:57 PM
Not hard to do when you're ostracized if you disagree. We all saw the same with the poison that the government forced on people when they decided covid was profitable.

K, we will never agree as it appears you are not swayed by facts and logic. You have an belief that isn't shakable with evidence or reason.

Covid was real, the vaccine is just fine- trump just got it along with the flu vaccine. Trump was the one who forced it on people

I know you have been told it was poison and that it causes aids and all kinds of things but it works and is safe as far as vaccines go. No treatment is fully safe of course. Exercising kills some people.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 11, 2025, 01:34:43 PM
K, we will never agree as it appears you are not swayed by facts and logic. You have an belief that isn't shakable with evidence or reason.

Covid was real, the vaccine is just fine- trump just got it along with the flu vaccine. Trump was the one who forced it on people

I know you have been told it was poison and that it causes aids and all kinds of things but it works and is safe as far as vaccines go. No treatment is fully safe of course. Exercising kills some people.
We can not agree when you are ruled by manipulation and shame. You have a belief that is forced on you with no free thought.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on October 13, 2025, 10:21:27 AM
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/10/02/2025-19365/adverse-effect-wage-rate-methodology-for-the-temporary-employment-of-h-2a-nonimmigrants-in-non-range#p-240 (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/10/02/2025-19365/adverse-effect-wage-rate-methodology-for-the-temporary-employment-of-h-2a-nonimmigrants-in-non-range#p-240)

 The Labor Department warned in  the Federal Register last week that “the near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens” is threatening “the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S. consumers.”

    “Unless the Department acts immediately to provide a source of stable and lawful labor, this threat will grow,” with increased funding for immigration enforcement from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, the Labor Department said in the Federal Register, which is the place where all proposed rules are recorded for the public to view and comment.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 10:48:52 AM
We can not agree when you are ruled by manipulation and shame. You have a belief that is forced on you with no free thought.

Ya I am going to go against the scientific consensus because of my politics, that makes perfect sense!

I am going to go to the engineer building the bridge in my community and tell him how to do it because I am a free thinker!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 01:42:37 PM
Ya I am going to go against the scientific consensus because of my politics, that makes perfect sense!

I am going to go to the engineer building the bridge in my community and tell him how to do it because I am a free thinker!

You're a fool & constantly being show up as out of your depth
Stick to issuing daft threats to others & worrying about the use of your
Pronouns  ::)  Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2025, 03:53:11 PM
You're a fool & constantly being show up as out of your depth
Stick to issuing daft threats to others & worrying about the use of your
Pronouns  ::)  Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

You can't use my comment about out of your depth against me. You need to come up with your own content, bud.

Are you autistic?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 13, 2025, 03:59:18 PM
Ya I am going to go against the scientific consensus because of my politics, that makes perfect sense!

I am going to go to the engineer building the bridge in my community and tell him how to do it because I am a free thinker!
Politics has nothing to do with it. Why the hell would I tell a bridge engineer how to do it? Are you high again?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 13, 2025, 05:21:28 PM
You can't use my comment about out of your depth against me. You need to come up with your own content, bud.

Are you autistic?


Pronoun Boy

Khvnt - Twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

I can use what the hell comment I like towards you.

It is you who is highly likely autistic &/or flat out stupid.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 14, 2025, 03:32:33 AM
Politics has nothing to do with it. Why the hell would I tell a bridge engineer how to do it? Are you high again?

because you think you know more than the experts and seem to question anyones motives when it goes against your own personal ideologies. Could this be projection on your part?

Maybe you lack character and have never dedicated yourself to a craft or profession that requires constant learning.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 14, 2025, 10:02:17 AM
because you think you know more than the experts and seem to question anyones motives when it goes against your own personal ideologies. Could this be projection on your part?

Maybe you lack character and have never dedicated yourself to a craft or profession that requires constant learning.
You're fucking retarded and that's a horrible comparison. Whatever knock-off college gave you a degree should take it back.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: loco on October 14, 2025, 10:15:53 AM
US economy growing at fastest pace in nearly 2 years

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economy-growing-fastest-pace-214500771.html


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Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 14, 2025, 01:22:03 PM
because you think you know more than the experts and seem to question anyones motives when it goes against your own personal ideologies. Could this be projection on your part?

Maybe you lack character and have never dedicated yourself to a craft or profession that requires constant learning.

Unlike you Pronoun Boy  ::)

Khvnt - twat - Idiot - Queer Boy

Stay in your lane Idiot , whenever you post a reply you just
expose your stupidness even more 
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 03:28:15 AM
Hey guys,

Just checking in,

powell said growth is slower under trump, less hiring/slowed job creation, more unemployment, increasing inflation (wait till all the tariffs hit). WINNING!
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 06:12:13 AM
Hey guys,

Just checking in,

powell said growth is slower under trump, less hiring/slowed job creation, more unemployment, increasing inflation (wait till all the tariffs hit). WINNING!
That's great news. Keep the riff raff away.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 09:21:38 AM
That's great news. Keep the riff raff away.

Its not great news! I am trying to say its bad. I would appreciate you not being sarcastic in this serious thread. People who stop by might get confused and think this is great news when its actually not great news.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 17, 2025, 10:03:29 AM
Hey guys,

Just checking in,

powell said growth is slower under trump, less hiring/slowed job creation, more unemployment, increasing inflation (wait till all the tariffs hit). WINNING!

You should go to a No Kings protest this week to blow off some steam.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: illuminati on October 17, 2025, 10:19:51 AM
You should go to a No Kings protest this week to blow off some steam.


Nah he should go the nearest high cliff & Jump off with all
the other Lemmings
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: IroNat on October 17, 2025, 10:53:06 AM
You should go to a No Kings protest this week to blow off some steam.

There's one in my town tomorrow.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Grape Ape on October 17, 2025, 11:11:54 AM
There's one in my town tomorrow.

Same
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: B_B_C on October 17, 2025, 12:51:49 PM
Republicans used to want deregulation so that businesses could as free as possible. Today, Republicans want businesses to be  beholden to the government.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 03:14:55 PM
Republicans used to want deregulation so that businesses could as free as possible. Today, Republicans want businesses to be  beholden to the government.
What do democrats want? Because the democrat running CA is trying to push all businesses out of the state. Taxing us to death.
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 17, 2025, 05:08:14 PM
What do democrats want? Because the democrat running CA is trying to push all businesses out of the state. Taxing us to death.

Is that actually in line with reality though?

what are the stats on that?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 17, 2025, 05:33:43 PM
Is that actually in line with reality though?

what are the stats on that?
The stats on what? Democrats raping Californias dry with new taxes or democrats driving businesses out of CA with their regulations, taxes, fees and fines?
Title: Re: US economy
Post by: Necrosis on October 18, 2025, 03:51:43 AM
The stats on what? Democrats raping Californias dry with new taxes or democrats driving businesses out of CA with their regulations, taxes, fees and fines?

yes,

it should be easy to see if businesses are decreasing or increasing in cali.

I am pretty sure its a mixed trend, less headquarters do to taxes more new businesses then ever and more small businesses then any other state if I am not mistaken.

Title: Re: US economy
Post by: chaos on October 18, 2025, 08:41:44 AM
yes,

it should be easy to see if businesses are decreasing or increasing in cali.

I am pretty sure its a mixed trend, less headquarters do to taxes more new businesses then ever and more small businesses then any other state if I am not mistaken.
CA is the most populated state in the country, it makes sense we have "more" of everything. More businesses opening, more closing, more moving to other states. That's not rocket science, it's simple math. The question is why? The answer is democrat policies. It's why more than 50% of businesses leaving CA end up in Texas and somewhere around 10% end up in Florida, both red states if you didn't know.

I skimmed this article and it looks to touch on most of what's happening with businesses in CA. Keep in mind, this is just for the state, your county and city will also have their hands out for regulation fees and taxes.

https://californiapolicycenter.org/reports/worsttobest/