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« Reply #250 on: Today at 03:50:03 AM »
Bruh.  You are the one who called yourself a genius.  lol 

So you have no idea what was said, but you're going to inject yourself into the middle of the conversation.  Ok. 

Yes, this is the greatest country on earth.  It's the greatest country in the history of the world.  It's the country people from all around the world are dying to come to.  They want to experience the American dream.  They want freedom.  They want prosperity. 

You know what people don't want?  They don't want the government taking half or more of their income like they do in Canada.  Or facing prison time for "hate speech" like they do in Canada.  Or losing their kid and facing prison time for trying to prevent their child from sexual mutilation and sterilization with "gender affirming care" like they do in Canada.   

Where did I say that? i more so insulted you and made a joke that went over your head.

Again, my comment went over your head lol.

HAHA!!! you are delusional lolol. What metrics?

You live on the internet, I know of no one that has gone to jail for any of that, i am sure you can find some insanely rare cases with nuance.

What metrics are you using?

https://www.narcity.com/canada-ranked-best-country-to-live-in

you are living in an idiocracy. Your economy is going downhill and your global standing is tanking. Farmers going out of business, losing beef and soy to china which will never come back requiring another bailout using the money from tariffs which is why they are failing in the first place! GENIUS STUFF!!

Honestly, keep going, its incredibly entertaining. Liberation day! the equation used was made by a 4 year old, oohhh bonds tanking, liberation day is off!

DOGE- multiple trillions in savings---- nothing at all. Clearly an illegal data grab for supporting his campaign.

A presidential meme coin HAHA. Firing the BLS stats reporter cus you don't like the data. Trying to force scientists to use the state backed journal. I mean the list goes on. Enjoy that fascism.

How is tourism going?

accepting jets from qatar, bringing false suits against enemies, shutting down congress to avoid swearing in a demo that could release pedophile files.

Canada is free as a bird brother. Weed is legal, shroom stores are open everywhere, I can say and do whatever I want, I haven't met a transgender in my actual life- they are pretty rare. Drugs are cheap and covered, healthcare is free.

In no place do they take 50% of what you make unless you are making over 200 (and I would imagine you understand they concept of brackets) and over 300k in some places.

I think what upsets you about the trans folks is that they exist and require support in ways you don't so its hard to empathize with them. I have never had gender dysphoria but its a real thing. I feel bad for the poor folks who have it and suffer. If there is evidence a treatment works to alleviate it I am all for it, other then that I don't care one bit and everyone I know feels the same. Its a niche area with huge political mutterings.

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« Reply #251 on: Today at 03:52:30 AM »


its by definition fascism. Narc sociopaths are drawn to this behaviour- its a prerequisite.

I still cant get over the fact that he made a meme coin to steal from the US citizens and people are like, oh ya, thats cool, I am sure he isn't trying to enrich himself in every other way possible.

His speech to the UN was fucking comedy gold lololol.

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« Reply #252 on: Today at 05:30:02 AM »
its by definition fascism. Narc sociopaths are drawn to this behaviour- its a prerequisite.

I still cant get over the fact that he made a meme coin to steal from the US citizens and people are like, oh ya, thats cool, I am sure he isn't trying to enrich himself in every other way possible.

His speech to the UN was fucking comedy gold lololol.

eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



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Youtube and Google admit to censorship during the Biden era:

Google Admits Censorship Under Biden; Promises to End Bans of YouTube Accounts of Thousands of Americans Censored for Political SpeechSeptember 23, 2025
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, thanks to the oversight of Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH), Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube due to political speech violations on topics such as COVID-19 and elections an opportunity to return to the platform.

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The Biden Administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies.
The Biden Administration censorship pressure was "unacceptable and wrong."
Public debate should never come at the expense of relying "authorities."
The company will never use third-party "fact-checkers."
Europe's censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech, including the removal of "lawful content."
These major admissions come after Chairman Jordan's subpoena to Google and a years long investigation into the company.

Read the full letter from Google here.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.
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« Reply #253 on: Today at 06:13:26 AM »
eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.

His own people caused the escalator problem, thats been established lololol.

Bro, trump is talking about deploying military into cities, is using office to get rich out in the open, going after his political opponents, trying to nationalize research, is a full on authoritarian. You are comparing apples to oranges or an orange.


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« Reply #254 on: Today at 08:14:34 AM »
His own people caused the escalator problem, thats been established lololol.

Bro, trump is talking about deploying military into cities, is using office to get rich out in the open, going after his political opponents, trying to nationalize research, is a full on authoritarian. You are comparing apples to oranges or an orange.

I know you don't know this, but.....it's neither authoritarian nor fascist. Hope this helps.

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« Reply #255 on: Today at 08:25:40 AM »
I know you don't know this, but.....it's neither authoritarian nor fascist. Hope this helps.

Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Let's see dummy.

He is dictating things normally reserved for congress to dictate, unilaterally slapping tariffs on the world. Is 100% enriching himself and his buddies via numerous tactics, is threatening using the military on us soil and using cities as training grounds that his opposition run. Is firing and attempting to jail people opposed to him. Demanding seats in an election through gerrymandering. Shall I go on?

Its a clear slide into fascism. He is taking plays out of the playbook.

I know you aren't that bright but wake up. You should be embarrassed supporting such a moron. The guy causes soy and beef to plummet, farmers start crying, tariffs are the cause of the loss to china and other markets, plans to use the tariff money to keep them afloat! genius stuff!!!

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« Reply #256 on: Today at 08:52:48 AM »
Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Let's see dummy.

He is dictating things normally reserved for congress to dictate, unilaterally slapping tariffs on the world. Is 100% enriching himself and his buddies via numerous tactics, is threatening using the military on us soil and using cities as training grounds that his opposition run. Is firing and attempting to jail people opposed to him. Demanding seats in an election through gerrymandering. Shall I go on?

Its a clear slide into fascism. He is taking plays out of the playbook.

I know you aren't that bright but wake up. You should be embarrassed supporting such a moron. The guy causes soy and beef to plummet, farmers start crying, tariffs are the cause of the loss to china and other markets, plans to use the tariff money to keep them afloat! genius stuff!!!

Yeah..this is the lefts narrative. You actually think this is the 1930's where real fascism took place. This ain't even remotely close to it. You can for sure make that argument this is what leftists are doing.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion" - Karl Marx

“Historically, fascism often involved illegal or extralegal actions to seize and maintain power, such as abolishing democratic institutions, banning opposition, and using violence to suppress dissent, as seen in regimes like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany. These actions typically violated existing legal frameworks or constitutions. In contrast, most modern right-wing movements in democratic countries operate within legal and constitutional bounds, participating in elections and adhering to established laws, even if their policies or rhetoric spark controversy. While critics may dislike certain decisions, those decisions are generally made through lawful processes, not through the overthrow of legal systems as fascism historically entailed.”


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« Reply #257 on: Today at 09:17:50 AM »
Yeah..this is the lefts narrative. You actually think this is the 1930's where real fascism took place. This ain't even remotely close to it. You can for sure make that argument this is what leftists are doing.

"Accuse your enemy of what you are doing as you are doing it to create confusion" - Karl Marx

“Historically, fascism often involved illegal or extralegal actions to seize and maintain power, such as abolishing democratic institutions, banning opposition, and using violence to suppress dissent, as seen in regimes like Mussolini’s Italy or Hitler’s Germany. These actions typically violated existing legal frameworks or constitutions. In contrast, most modern right-wing movements in democratic countries operate within legal and constitutional bounds, participating in elections and adhering to established laws, even if their policies or rhetoric spark controversy. While critics may dislike certain decisions, those decisions are generally made through lawful processes, not through the overthrow of legal systems as fascism historically entailed.”

Trump is skirting the law constantly lolol.

You never read das kapital bro, stop with the retard quotes. Thats not something karl marx said you imbecile, you are misquoting joseph goebbels at nuremberg. You have zero fucking clue about karl marx, he is like the boogeyman to you. Making up shit just like the rest of the shit you spew is nice though.

I am not sure why I even bother with you, you cannot have a coherent argument. Your points are never cogent or thought out and you constantly lie.

Where did I say it was the 1930s obviously fascism is on a gradient and context makes a huge difference. He is behaving in many ways like a fascist. It's getting worse and your country is suffering for it.

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« Reply #258 on: Today at 09:20:35 AM »
eh, we're just used to fascism after the last admin.

I must have missed your posts complaining about it then.

And they fucked with Trump before the speech - escalator, teleprompter, audio, so he just talked shit to them.



https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-promises-end-bans-youtube-accounts

Everything I've been saying.

Not big on whataboutism, but if the Trump admin did this, the fats would be rioting accross the country, and this would be front page headline news.

Maybe so, but he is taking it up a notch openly going after political opponents, firings of political opponents that are un-warrented - lisa cook for example, a farce- wanting to use dem cities as training grounds for the military etc.. its ratcheting up. I reckon if the left gets in next presidency it escalates and so on.

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« Reply #259 on: Today at 10:40:57 AM »
Maybe so, but he is taking it up a notch openly going after political opponents, firings of political opponents that are un-warrented - lisa cook for example, a farce- wanting to use dem cities as training grounds for the military etc.. its ratcheting up. I reckon if the left gets in next presidency it escalates and so on.

No doubt.

But it's not unexpected, it's a known part of the package, for better or worse.  I love some of it, but really dislike some of it too.

The fascinating thing is, if he's so bad, the left should be able to capitalize and continue the cycle you mentioned above.......but they are failing miserably.  They're actually getting worse.  They need to get rid of their old legacy elephants like Schumer and Pelosi, and get young folks who are moderate and appealing rather than jackasses like The Squad, Swalwell, Booker, Crocket, etc......those folks do not appeal to normal folks.
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« Reply #260 on: Today at 10:57:16 AM »
No doubt.

But it's not unexpected, it's a known part of the package, for better or worse.  I love some of it, but really dislike some of it too.

The fascinating thing is, if he's so bad, the left should be able to capitalize and continue the cycle you mentioned above.......but they are failing miserably.  They're actually getting worse.  They need to get rid of their old legacy elephants like Schumer and Pelosi, and get young folks who are moderate and appealing rather than jackasses like The Squad, Swalwell, Booker, Crocket, etc......those folks do not appeal to normal folks.

I think the parties are more similar at the top then disparate. I am more of a moderate, I don't care what trans people do, I thin men are men and women are women but I don't like authoritarian non-sense, dumb fiscal policies that are short sighted and outright lies.

The fact that they he keeps saying the money tariffs are bringing in is an insult to folks intelligence. I generally see him as not that bright, very simplistic in his world view and frankly unfit to lead a country. Maybe I am off in this but where are the principled folks like John McCain, the ones with integrity and values that weren't up for sale.

Maybe thats a phantom that never was but this current admins obvious money grab and corruption (they all are mind you, but there are levels) see intransigent.

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« Reply #261 on: Today at 11:19:29 AM »
I think the parties are more similar at the top then disparate. I am more of a moderate, I don't care what trans people do, I thin men are men and women are women but I don't like authoritarian non-sense, dumb fiscal policies that are short sighted and outright lies.

The fact that they he keeps saying the money tariffs are bringing in is an insult to folks intelligence. I generally see him as not that bright, very simplistic in his world view and frankly unfit to lead a country. Maybe I am off in this but where are the principled folks like John McCain, the ones with integrity and values that weren't up for sale.

Maybe thats a phantom that never was but this current admins obvious money grab and corruption (they all are mind you, but there are levels) see intransigent.

I agree with the first statement 100%.  Don't care what folks do, just don't expect normal folks to give special treatment or act like you're oppressed.  And stay away from kids.

As far as tarriffs, I will judge by how our economy is doing in 2026.  That's fair time to see if what he's doing will spur growth or not.  If it does, give the Rs the next election.  If it doesn't, the midterms will reflect.

But I am still of the belief that no matter you think of Trump, TDS is real, and it did cause the left to abandon their morals at best, and commit treason at worst.  The lawfare, weaponization of the judicial system, phony impeachments, the silencing of individuals, and attempting to control the media are all real things the last admin did, and there needs to be accountability and punishment so it doesn't happen again.

So, if it takes a guy who makes $ off dipshits who buy his meme coin to accomplish the above, I'll take the bad with the good.
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« Reply #262 on: Today at 11:30:41 AM »
Trump is skirting the law constantly lolol.

You never read das kapital bro, stop with the retard quotes. Thats not something karl marx said you imbecile, you are misquoting joseph goebbels at nuremberg. You have zero fucking clue about karl marx, he is like the boogeyman to you. Making up shit just like the rest of the shit you spew is nice though.

I am not sure why I even bother with you, you cannot have a coherent argument. Your points are never cogent or thought out and you constantly lie.

Where did I say it was the 1930s obviously fascism is on a gradient and context makes a huge difference. He is behaving in many ways like a fascist. It's getting worse and your country is suffering for it.

Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.

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« Reply #263 on: Today at 12:59:44 PM »
Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.

Great point!

Post some more made up quotes if you don't mind. The idea I am a high earning professional appears to upset you, very odd. You addressed zero points and ignored the fact that you literally used a made up quote.

I realize you do not fact check things and are right till you die but try to calm that amygdala and use your prefrontal cortex sometime, more so orbitofrontal but anything near the front would be good for you.

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« Reply #264 on: Today at 01:05:06 PM »
Sometimes I think you come on here just to get abused. You've even lost debates on medical issues yet you claim to be a "doctor"...of what exactly? No one knows.

Wait I didnt see the claim that I've lost debates on medical issues lol what was that exactly?

 I am excited to hear what you think medical is and what I lost, truly.

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« Reply #265 on: Today at 02:19:30 PM »
Where did I say that? i more so insulted you and made a joke that went over your head.

Again, my comment went over your head lol.

HAHA!!! you are delusional lolol. What metrics?

You live on the internet, I know of no one that has gone to jail for any of that, i am sure you can find some insanely rare cases with nuance.

What metrics are you using?

https://www.narcity.com/canada-ranked-best-country-to-live-in

you are living in an idiocracy. Your economy is going downhill and your global standing is tanking. Farmers going out of business, losing beef and soy to china which will never come back requiring another bailout using the money from tariffs which is why they are failing in the first place! GENIUS STUFF!!

Honestly, keep going, its incredibly entertaining. Liberation day! the equation used was made by a 4 year old, oohhh bonds tanking, liberation day is off!

DOGE- multiple trillions in savings---- nothing at all. Clearly an illegal data grab for supporting his campaign.

A presidential meme coin HAHA. Firing the BLS stats reporter cus you don't like the data. Trying to force scientists to use the state backed journal. I mean the list goes on. Enjoy that fascism.

How is tourism going?

accepting jets from qatar, bringing false suits against enemies, shutting down congress to avoid swearing in a demo that could release pedophile files.

Canada is free as a bird brother. Weed is legal, shroom stores are open everywhere, I can say and do whatever I want, I haven't met a transgender in my actual life- they are pretty rare. Drugs are cheap and covered, healthcare is free.

In no place do they take 50% of what you make unless you are making over 200 (and I would imagine you understand they concept of brackets) and over 300k in some places.

I think what upsets you about the trans folks is that they exist and require support in ways you don't so its hard to empathize with them. I have never had gender dysphoria but its a real thing. I feel bad for the poor folks who have it and suffer. If there is evidence a treatment works to alleviate it I am all for it, other then that I don't care one bit and everyone I know feels the same. Its a niche area with huge political mutterings.

You don't know what's happening in your own country. 

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« Reply #266 on: Today at 02:31:59 PM »
You don't know what's happening in your own country.

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« Reply #267 on: Today at 02:43:01 PM »
avg to below avg iq detected.

You are still the dumbest genius ever.  lol  ;D