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Title: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on February 01, 2026, 10:30:53 AM
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Zendaya as Athena

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Will Yun Lee and Elliot Page as other Greeks :D

(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abAoYK9_700bwp.webp)
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 01, 2026, 11:31:25 AM
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Zendaya as Athena

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Will Yun Lee and Elliot Page as other Greeks :D

(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abAoYK9_700bwp.webp)


What a stupid piece of shit movie. I hope it bombs.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: joswift on February 01, 2026, 11:39:50 AM
Will not watch..
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: beakdoctor on February 01, 2026, 12:01:43 PM
Just imagine a remake of the Zulu wars with Ryan Reynolds as Shaka Zulu.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: BB on February 01, 2026, 01:29:09 PM
Holland is boning Zendaya, so they probably came as a package deal looking to generate heat from that. Otherwise, this just looks like the standard "throw a bunch of popular stars together" claptrap that Hollywood put out from time to time. I wouldn't even know it was being made if it wasn't posted here.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on February 01, 2026, 02:07:02 PM
Plot question:  Does Matt Damon get Greeked?
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 01, 2026, 03:06:32 PM
Holland is boning Zendaya, so they probably came as a package deal looking to generate heat from that. Otherwise, this just looks like the standard "throw a bunch of popular stars together" claptrap that Hollywood put out from time to time. I wouldn't even know it was being made if it wasn't posted here.

Definitely a Package-deal


Holland wouldnt accept it unless they brought in Zendaya as well
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: robcguns on February 01, 2026, 07:11:54 PM
wtf would watch that crap?
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on February 01, 2026, 10:07:04 PM
I would say Zendaya is not a problem as she looks like someone who could at least be from a nearby region.

However, Lupita as Helen of Troy is illogical as Greeks in that time period had no contact with that region of Africa yet. Also, Helen of Troy is described as having fair skin, so definitely not a Nubian.

Another issue is the armour, the characters are wearing fantasy style equipment which might have some slight resemblance to armour 700-800 years later, but even then nowhere accurate.

And then they seem to be using Viking long-ships instead of the more primitive ships they would have used in 1200 BC.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: joswift on February 01, 2026, 10:26:39 PM
I would say Zendaya is not a problem as she looks like someone who could at least be from a nearby region.

However, Lupita as Helen of Troy is illogical as Greeks in that time period had no contact with that region of Africa yet. Also, Helen of Troy is described as having fair skin, so definitely not a Nubian.

Another issue is the armour, the characters are wearing fantasy style equipment which might have some slight resemblance to armour 700-800 years later, but even then nowhere accurate.

And then they seem to be using Viking long-ships instead of the more primitive ships they would have used in 1200 BC.
they only had copper swords back then because steel wasnt even around
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2026, 12:46:05 AM
I would say Zendaya is not a problem as she looks like someone who could at least be from a nearby region.

However, Lupita as Helen of Troy is illogical as Greeks in that time period had no contact with that region of Africa yet. Also, Helen of Troy is described as having fair skin, so definitely not a Nubian.

Another issue is the armour, the characters are wearing fantasy style equipment which might have some slight resemblance to armour 700-800 years later, but even then nowhere accurate.

And then they seem to be using Viking long-ships instead of the more primitive ships they would have used in 1200 BC.

What about Korean Will Yun Lee as a Greek warrior? :D
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on February 02, 2026, 02:09:20 AM
What about Korean Will Yun Lee as a Greek warrior? :D

I missed that.

That would be 100% impossible for that time period.

I see there's also an Indian, but I guess he's supposed to be European or someone from the Middle East in the film, because any Indians in Greece at that time period in the Bronze Age is also 100% impossible.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2026, 03:00:46 AM
Others beside me have reacted to this shitshow :D

7:28 for the odyssey-discussion



Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: falco on February 02, 2026, 03:21:49 AM
Fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2026, 03:50:23 AM
The Face That Launched a 1000 Ships / Crips

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on February 02, 2026, 04:13:43 AM
Even if not completely accurate but it's at least based on archaeological evidence, still looks a lot more interesting.

Mycenaeans/Greeks on the left, Trojans on the right:

(https://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/war18.jpg)

Trojans:

(https://www.gordondoherty.co.uk/uploads/1/2/6/6/126670719/trojan-soldiers_orig.jpg)

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2026, 04:23:36 AM
Trojans are the Turks of today yes?

Or did the Trojans leave the area before it became Turkey?
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on February 02, 2026, 04:28:55 AM
Trojans are the Turks of today yes?

Or did the Trojans leave the area before it became Turkey?

Same area as Turkey today, but was invaded and taken over by the Ottoman Turks in the 1400's.

Before that, the region was mainly Greek in culture.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: joswift on February 02, 2026, 06:00:29 AM
The Face That Launched a 1000 Ships / Crips



The face that stopped a thousand clocks..
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on February 02, 2026, 08:23:16 AM
Getbig is not amused.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 02, 2026, 09:05:26 PM
Same area as Turkey today, but was invaded and taken over by the Ottoman Turks in the 1400's.

Before that, the region was mainly Greek in culture.

So , way before the Ottomans, Spartans were Greek, and Troyans were also Greek, but different kind of Greek.

Maybe like LA-americans and NY-americans.

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: galain on February 02, 2026, 10:27:55 PM
This Kangmin Lee fella obviously angling to be the new Black Panther...
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 03, 2026, 12:06:00 AM
wtf would watch that crap?
Not any of us. Indoctrination for the young.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on February 05, 2026, 06:36:59 AM
(https://scontent.fbma6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/626173140_10225861830252299_2943465678352937228_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=ek87TGBfGLkQ7kNvwFKjqAS&_nc_oc=AdmsZyFmEp3cFd6vPwTTGNMVIbrgBcU3hhW3Sh8jPD4C62i9Nue7jxzosWkiAaeZW9o&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fbma6-1.fna&_nc_gid=vdpppNB5Waaa-U_mTgOdIA&oh=00_AftVAvs_S3ya8Th5W1BStY99-TwS_SmPuwYR2kxvQxXnvw&oe=698A659E)
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: _bruce_ on February 05, 2026, 07:58:33 AM

It's become an all out parody right now...
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 05, 2026, 09:49:31 AM
Ensemble Cast of Crap
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on February 05, 2026, 10:42:21 AM
A bad Nolan movie is still very watchable. It should be fine.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on May 22, 2026, 09:58:07 AM
Achilles upset with the new Helen of Troy, calling her a burnt hag

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Rambone on May 22, 2026, 11:25:08 AM
Smellen of Troy
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: joswift on May 22, 2026, 11:47:45 AM
as long as Orlandfo Blooms not in it Im OK with it
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on May 22, 2026, 12:10:35 PM
Can't wait to see this farce fail miserably.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on May 22, 2026, 01:04:58 PM
Achilles upset with the new Helen of Troy, calling her a burnt hag



I won't be watching this show, that's for sure.

For the costumes alone, it they used designs modelled on what has been found from back then, the show would have had some crazy, interesting armour.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: jude2 on May 23, 2026, 04:13:19 PM
wtf would watch that crap?
Liberals will love it.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on May 24, 2026, 01:36:25 AM
geeks getting upset by greeks

Greeks getting upset by Nogs
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Raymondo on May 24, 2026, 02:12:53 AM
Looks like Nolan went super woke too.

You might as well make a yellow skinned bastard mongrel like Kwon into Odysseus

Will give this a pass.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on May 25, 2026, 04:26:32 AM
New Achilles

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 25, 2026, 07:11:16 AM
It's become an all out parody right now...
AI will end Hollywood soon.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on May 28, 2026, 10:02:22 AM
If Nupita was Helen in the Troy w Bana and Bloom

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: loco on July 09, 2026, 06:28:44 AM
Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’ Limits Comments on X Amid ‘Woke’ Casting Controversy

However, some casting decisions have sparked criticism online, with some conservative commentators accusing the film of pushing "woke" ideology. The backlash has centered largely around the casting of Nyong'o as Helen of Troy and false claims surrounding Page's role.

Now, it appears discussion surrounding the film on X has been limited. A look at the movie's official account shows that replies have been restricted, with a message appearing under each tweet in the comments section that reads, "only some accounts can reply" alongside a lock symbol.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/movies/articles/christopher-nolan-odyssey-limits-comments-181915273.html
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 17, 2026, 04:27:51 AM
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Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 18, 2026, 08:40:09 AM
Forget about the Odyssey...


Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 18, 2026, 09:23:21 AM
Can't wait to see this farce fail miserably.

It will not.  I will check it out - Nolan has a great record.

And, I am anti- progressive liberal, anti-democrat, anti-woke horseshit as much as the next guy.  However, I heard non-stop how Ellen Page was Achilles, read all the uproar, and it turns out she's not cast as that.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: WrongAdvices on July 18, 2026, 09:38:08 AM
It will not.  I will check it out - Nolan has a great record.

And, I am anti- progressive liberal, anti-democrat, anti-woke horseshit as much as the next guy.  However, I heard non-stop how Ellen Page was Achilles, read all the uproar, and it turns out she's not cast as that.

Same I’ll see it even though I’m aligned with all that and hate some because my experience is influencers in the right lie about these things for clicks plus I’m so movie starved that I can cut a little slack.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 18, 2026, 09:43:48 AM
Wouldnt even pirate it if someone paid me.

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 18, 2026, 09:54:44 AM
Wouldnt even pirate it if someone paid me.
Me neither.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on July 18, 2026, 10:08:28 AM
Looking forward to Getbigger reviews from Grape and Wrong Advices.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 18, 2026, 10:29:29 AM
Same I’ll see it even though I’m aligned with all that and hate some because my experience is influencers in the right lie about these things for clicks plus I’m so movie starved that I can cut a little slack.

Influencers in general do this. I've seen right wing dumbasses fall for more troll accounts than I can remember.

However, the left is worse.

Also, gayer than being "influenced".
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 19, 2026, 04:14:14 AM
Solid movie. Nolan doesn't disappoint.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 19, 2026, 06:30:21 AM
Solid movie. Nolan doesn't disappoint.

I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.



Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 19, 2026, 07:23:47 AM
I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.

Why would you go in expecting a movie the quality of Gladiator? There will probably never be a movie in this genre as epic as Gladiator, no point even trying to compare anything to it.

It's a tough genre to do, especially a 3 hour movie with the source material. Nolans style kept things interesting enough, decent action and it looked great. The ending did something different too

His castings hasn't been great for several movies now. It is what it is, for the genre it was solid and about on par with Troy
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 19, 2026, 07:51:52 AM
Why would you go in expecting a movie the quality of Gladiator? There will probably never be a movie in this genre as epic as Gladiator, no point even trying to compare anything to it.

It's a tough genre to do, especially a 3 hour movie with the source material. Nolans style kept things interesting enough, decent action and it looked great. The ending did something different too

His castings hasn't been great for several movies now. It is what it is, for the genre it was solid and about on par with Troy

Because it's one of the most epic directors covering an one of the most famous and epic tales ever told?  I could flip that on you - how could you NOT?

Decent action, looked great, dialogue and acting were pedestrian.

I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 19, 2026, 08:26:29 AM
Because it's one of the most epic directors covering an one of the most famous and epic tales ever told?  I could flip that on you - how could you NOT?

Decent action, looked great, dialogue and acting were pedestrian.

I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.

Has any well known epic ancient Greek literature as source material ever resulted in an epic movie? Gladiator doesn't count as the source material wasn't well known and it was modern writing.

Movies based on ancient Greek literature are nearly always trash. Only a handful you could call solid, and this is one of them.

This was about on the same level as Nolans most recent movies. None of those were epic either.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 19, 2026, 10:38:21 AM
Has any well known epic ancient Greek literature as source material ever resulted in an epic movie? Gladiator doesn't count as the source material wasn't well known and it was modern writing.

Movies based on ancient Greek literature are nearly always trash. Only a handful you could call solid, and this is one of them.


Do you think he went into this thinking he was just going to make a "solid" movie?

He can pick any project he wants - there's no reason to think he went in looking to not make something great.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 19, 2026, 11:38:03 AM
Sick world

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: hench on July 19, 2026, 12:03:22 PM
That magazine cover doesn't look real
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 19, 2026, 12:07:09 PM
That magazine cover doesn't look real

Lol, it's not
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 20, 2026, 05:28:49 AM
I wrote my thoughts here before I read any reviews, and it seems like my critique is a common one.

I dunno about that one, it’s got 95% rating on rotten tomatoes
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 20, 2026, 05:39:36 AM
I dunno about that one, it’s got 95% rating on rotten tomatoes

95% just means 95% positive.  A movie can have positive reviews overall and still have plenty of critique.

For example.

Quote
The main criticisms  include:The Dialogue: Many viewers found the modern, conversational slang and American accents jarring in an ancient Greek setting.

Or, in getbig terms - the random whore thread can have a page that has an overall positive rating, even if titusisback sprinkles in the random weird ones that aren't hot.

Overall, I just didn't find it epic or memorable.  I was expecting a lot.

It was just fine.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on July 20, 2026, 10:07:56 AM
The Odyssey is making tons of money and that is what counts.

I doubt too many movie goers have read the book.
I'll bet most don't even know it is a book.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 20, 2026, 10:30:43 AM
The Odyssey is making tons of money and that is what counts.

I doubt too many movie goers have read the book.
I'll bet most don't even know it is a book.

If we are getting technical, I believe it's a poem.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 21, 2026, 12:13:12 PM
That magazine cover doesn't look real

ai


But it COULD have been real!
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: pamith on July 22, 2026, 06:04:29 AM
wtf would watch that crap?
You know you're gonna watch it at the movie theater
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 22, 2026, 09:06:21 AM
You know you're gonna watch it at the movie theater

Wouldnt even stream it if i got paid.

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on July 22, 2026, 09:16:54 AM
To watch The Odyssee sounds like a 3-hour slog.

Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 22, 2026, 12:25:42 PM
To watch The Odyssee sounds like a 3-hour slog.

Id rather watch BigRo box with Hankins
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Lartinos on July 22, 2026, 01:04:08 PM
Too bad it seems a shitty film was made where a great one could be.

I’ll pass on this one..
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: IroNat on July 22, 2026, 01:43:25 PM
Id rather watch BigRo box with Hankins

Would watch.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Kwon on July 22, 2026, 02:07:54 PM
Too bad it seems a shitty film was made where a great one could be.

I’ll pass on this one..

Yeah, when they have so much money and resources, why not attempt to do a good one, more true to the sourcematerial and something more of the general would like instead of the Woke-crowd.


Maybe Nolan was Woke-funded.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: SF1900 on July 22, 2026, 04:51:32 PM
Good movie. Definitely worth the watch.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Rambone on July 22, 2026, 05:36:39 PM
My favorite movie is anything by Tommy Wiseau
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Dreadlifter on July 22, 2026, 11:35:01 PM
I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.

Matt Damon as Odysseus was the first red flag for me. He doesn't have the chops or the gravitas to be Odysseus. I'll be taking a trip to the cinema next week to watch it but I don't expect to be wowed.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Dreadlifter on July 23, 2026, 03:11:45 AM
I will politely disagree.  I just thought it was fine.

First off - Good Will Homer.  No accent, just Damon acting like Damon.

Second, it just wasn't really epic.  Felt like a bunch of stuff we've seen before. It looked good, but I just don't really think there were scenes that stand out - like in Gladiator, everyone remembers Crowe's speech when he reveals himself in the pit.  Damon didn't deliver anything close.  And his big boss' voice didn't match.

Thrid, overall just didn't see anything spectacular in terms of acting.  Pattinson was good, so was spiderman, but the rest were just fine.  Nothing stand out.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 23, 2026, 07:47:38 AM
Do you think he went into this thinking he was just going to make a "solid" movie?

He can pick any project he wants - there's no reason to think he went in looking to not make something great.

Well he went looking for a structured deal with a movie studio in such a way where he'd make bank, so money was high on the priorities. Also he wanted to make Troy back in the early 00s but he got looked over. Assuming he had some unfinished business there. And I think every movie maker goes into a project wanting to make something great, why would he be any different?
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 23, 2026, 08:38:27 AM
Well he went looking for a structured deal with a movie studio in such a way where he'd make bank, so money was high on the priorities. Also he wanted to make Troy back in the early 00s but he got looked over. Assuming he had some unfinished business there. And I think every movie maker goes into a project wanting to make something great, why would he be any different?

I'm not sure what we're discussing then.

You basically asked me why I expected a Gladiator-type epic tale, and I told you why.  This doesn't refute that.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 23, 2026, 08:46:32 AM
I'm not sure what we're discussing then.

You basically asked me why I expected a Gladiator-type epic tale, and I told you why.  This doesn't refute that.

The fact that every movie maker hopes to make an epic movie and in maybe 99% of cases the end result isn't an epic movie should tell you something.

Even Nolans strike rate is well below 25%
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 23, 2026, 10:10:53 AM
Too bad it seems a shitty film was made where a great one could be.

I’ll pass on this one..


Popular consensus is that it’s a good movie.  What makes you think it was a shitty movie ???
Title: Re: Never forget the Odyssey: New Helen of Troy
Post by: Kwon on July 23, 2026, 10:46:04 AM
Some Odysset for y'all :D



Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 23, 2026, 11:12:25 AM
The fact that every movie maker hopes to make an epic movie and in maybe 99% of cases the end result isn't an epic movie should tell you something.

Even Nolans strike rate is well below 25%

It the same as if Peter Jackson said he was going to make God of War, Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy, etc.....I would go in hoping/expecting something epic.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Nolan+The Odyssey to be epic.

Either way, it's all subjective.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2026, 11:25:20 AM
It the same as if Peter Jackson said he was going to make God of War, Joe Abercrombie's First Law trilogy, etc.....I would go in hoping/expecting something epic.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Nolan+The Odyssey to be epic.

Either way, it's all subjective.

Epic movie think "Laurence Of Arabia"
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Grape Ape on July 23, 2026, 01:10:44 PM
Epic movie think "Laurence Of Arabia"

had too much sand

However, back to The Odyssey, I was unaware Nolan did not use CGI, so that changes my perspective on some things and how they appeared.  Pretty amazing from that context.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: galain on July 24, 2026, 04:35:25 AM
What about Korean Will Yun Lee as a Greek warrior? :D

It's just very fucking sunny on the Mediterranean, alright?
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Griffith on July 24, 2026, 04:46:14 AM

Popular consensus is that it’s a good movie. What makes you think it was a shitty movie ???

Casting.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: ziballz on July 24, 2026, 05:19:47 AM
Putting Travis Scott in this movie was certainly... a decision  ??? ::)

The Indian guy ended up with the most screen time out of the diversity casting, and to be fair, he actually did a solid job.
He/she Ellen page and Zendaya are basically glorified cameos.
Tom Holland is a total wimp
Robert Pattinson gets a handful of lines and nothing else to do.
Charlize Theron is excellent, but criminally underused.
Anne Hathaway reminds everyone of her acting skills
Jon Bernthal once again gets wasted in a role that barely lets him do anything.
John Leguizamo absolutely steals every scene he's in. Every time he shows up, the movie feels noticeably better.

Matt Damon is... fine. He gets the job done, but I couldn't shake the feeling someone else could've elevated the role.

My biggest issue isn't even the casting—it's the performances. For a story that's supposed to feel grand, mythic, and larger than life, almost everyone acts like they're trying not to wake the neighbors.
The entire cast feels oddly restrained and low-energy. Hathaway, Pattinson, and Leguizamo are the only ones who consistently bring some life to the screen. Everyone else—including Damon—feels like they're operating at about 60%.

Then there's Nolan's trademark time-hopping. The constant jumps backward and forward in the narrative eventually become more distracting than clever.
The sound mixing is classic Nolan too.... the music bulldozes over the dialogue half the time.

And don't even get me started on the dialogue itself....The English sounds far too modern, stripped of any sense of the period. It constantly pulls you out of the world.
But then again, Nolan takes liberties with just about everything here—the characters, the ships, the creatures, and the mythology—so I suppose the dialogue fits right in.

It's Visually impressive and packed with talent, but the performances never match the scale of the story.

6.5/10.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: IroNat on July 24, 2026, 06:14:26 AM
Epic movie think "Laurence Of Arabia" the original "Road House".
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Grape Ape on July 24, 2026, 06:15:06 AM
Putting Travis Scott in this movie was certainly... a decision  ??? ::)

The Indian guy ended up with the most screen time out of the diversity casting, and to be fair, he actually did a solid job.
He/she Ellen page and Zendaya are basically glorified cameos.
Tom Holland is a total wimp
Robert Pattinson gets a handful of lines and nothing else to do.
Charlize Theron is excellent, but criminally underused.
Anne Hathaway reminds everyone of her acting skills
Jon Bernthal once again gets wasted in a role that barely lets him do anything.
John Leguizamo absolutely steals every scene he's in. Every time he shows up, the movie feels noticeably better.

Matt Damon is... fine. He gets the job done, but I couldn't shake the feeling someone else could've elevated the role.

My biggest issue isn't even the casting—it's the performances. For a story that's supposed to feel grand, mythic, and larger than life, almost everyone acts like they're trying not to wake the neighbors.
The entire cast feels oddly restrained and low-energy. Hathaway, Pattinson, and Leguizamo are the only ones who consistently bring some life to the screen. Everyone else—including Damon—feels like they're operating at about 60%.

Then there's Nolan's trademark time-hopping. The constant jumps backward and forward in the narrative eventually become more distracting than clever.
The sound mixing is classic Nolan too.... the music bulldozes over the dialogue half the time.

And don't even get me started on the dialogue itself....The English sounds far too modern, stripped of any sense of the period. It constantly pulls you out of the world.
But then again, Nolan takes liberties with just about everything here—the characters, the ships, the creatures, and the mythology—so I suppose the dialogue fits right in.

It's Visually impressive and packed with talent, but the performances never match the scale of the story.

6.5/10.

Pretty much spot on how I feel outside of maybe overstating Theron's performance, but that's nitpicking.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: IroNat on July 24, 2026, 06:22:47 AM
I find it funny some of you actually wasted your money going to see this movie.

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Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 24, 2026, 06:34:24 AM
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 24, 2026, 06:58:14 AM
I find it funny some of you actually wasted your money going to see this movie.

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They would have to pay me $100 to waste my time.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 24, 2026, 07:47:48 AM
Dont call HER racist, its NOLAN!!!

Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 24, 2026, 10:47:17 AM
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Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: IroNat on July 24, 2026, 11:32:16 AM
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Elliot would want the Biden role.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Never1AShow on July 24, 2026, 10:21:25 PM
I saw it and didn't really like it.  6.5-7/10.  Woke was the least of its problems.  Waay too long losing my interest in many places.  Emotionally flat.  Wasted big name actors.  Disjointed narrative presented in a flashbacky vignette structure that just didn't work because it keeps taking away from the overall narrative.  Everything happening back home in Ithaca is boring with weak characters.

Not one of Nolan's best.  Lots of pretty, "big" scenes, but it just felt like a mailed-in hype cash grab. It's not something I want to watch again when it comes on cable and I think it'll be forgotten in a year.
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Never1AShow on July 24, 2026, 10:36:45 PM
Has any well known epic ancient Greek literature as source material ever resulted in an epic movie? Gladiator doesn't count as the source material wasn't well known and it was modern writing.

Movies based on ancient Greek literature are nearly always trash. Only a handful you could call solid, and this is one of them.

This was about on the same level as Nolans most recent movies. None of those were epic either.

The original Clash of the Titans was actually better.  Due respect to Ape, but Pattison sucked (and he seemed to be dressed in a Game of Thrones costume for some reason), as did Spiderman, who they made a pussy (despite his having every resason not to be as the son of Odysseus and having all these great mentors and training with weapons).
Title: Re: New Helen of Troy in Nolans "Odyssey"
Post by: Flexacon on July 25, 2026, 01:51:54 AM
The original Clash of the Titans was actually better.  Due respect to Ape, but Pattison sucked (and he seemed to be dressed in a Game of Thrones costume for some reason), as did Spiderman, who they made a pussy (despite his having every resason not to be as the son of Odysseus and having all these great mentors and training with weapons).

Clash of the Titans, Troy, 300 and Odyssey were all solid (all with huge issues too) Other than those you have to go back 50+ years to movies like Spartacus
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 25, 2026, 05:32:34 AM
I saw it and didn't really like it.  6.5-7/10.  Woke was the least of its problems.  Waay too long losing my interest in many places.  Emotionally flat.  Wasted big name actors.  Disjointed narrative presented in a flashbacky vignette structure that just didn't work because it keeps taking away from the overall narrative.  Everything happening back home in Ithaca is boring with weak characters.

Not one of Nolan's best.  Lots of pretty, "big" scenes, but it just felt like a mailed-in hype cash grab. It's not something I want to watch again when it comes on cable and I think it'll be forgotten in a year.

Troy by Wolfgang is still remembered and watched many years after, and even The Thang and Escape from New York (that had a lot less budget than Nolans Odyssey) will never be forgotten!
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 25, 2026, 07:00:16 AM
Elliot would want the Biden role.
Whoppi would be a better looking Michelle.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Never1AShow on July 25, 2026, 07:04:05 AM
And I entirely forgot about this, which is far far far better telling of the Odyssey

Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 25, 2026, 04:31:00 PM
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Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 28, 2026, 03:45:39 PM
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Grape Ape on July 28, 2026, 04:02:05 PM
And I entirely forgot about this, which is far far far better telling of the Odyssey

Rewatched it the other night because of your post.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Never1AShow on July 28, 2026, 10:22:21 PM
Rewatched it the other night because of your post.

So many good lines in that movie, "He's a suitor" "You stole from my kin" "can't be braggin on our own midget, no matter how stumpy"
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Kwon on July 31, 2026, 04:24:01 PM
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The five most humiliating details of Nolan's Odyssey.

Lupita Nyong'o as Helen of Troy. In the original poem, Homer describes her with white arms, fair skin and blonde hair. Nolan chose the opposite. It's not that Lupita is a bad actress, it's that the character they gave her has absolutely nothing to do with her. It's making a film about Cleopatra and giving the role to a Nordic woman.

Elliot Page as Sinon, the Greek warrior who tricks the Trojans with the horse. A 5'1" actor playing a warrior soldier in the most masculine story ever written. Nolan chose him without explanation.

Travis Scott as Modocko the Bard, a rapper with two acting credits in his entire career. Nolan justified the decision by saying that rap is a modern form of spoken poetry, but he could have chosen any serious actor and he didn't.

The dialogues are in modern American English, characters from ancient Greece speak with 21st-century accents and phrases. It was already evident in the trailers. Nolan spent $250 million on the most expensive film of his career, and no one corrected that.

There are zero actors of Greek origin in the entire film, not a single one. In a story that is at the heart of Greek culture, John Leguisamo, a Colombian, plays Umaeo, the servant, and he himself has publicly criticized white actors when they take on Latino roles.
Title: Re: Never forget The Odyssey - New Helen of Troy at 70 still competing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 01, 2026, 06:55:44 AM
Hollywoke just can't help themselves. They just have to push their multicultural agenda.