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Title: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 07:30:08 PM
The new AXE Body cologne commercial asks: "Shamed by a questionable hookup?" then shows a young man waking up and being grinned at by a flexing female BBer, looking a lot like Joanna Thomas.  Anyone seen it?

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Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 07:35:21 PM
Is the add implying that waking up next to a female bodybuilder is a shame !!!??
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 07:36:16 PM
Is the add implying that waking up next to a female bodybuilder is a shame !!!??

Yes, that is very clearly implied. 

The theme of the commercial is that if you use their product, you won't be reduced to questionable mating partners who look like that.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 07:38:45 PM
I think the biggest thing is, how did the female BBer feel when she arrived and was told she'd be playing the role of repugnant, regrettable sexual partner.

I'm 99% sure it was Joanna Thomas, as I've seen her SuperSize She show.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 07:39:32 PM
No wonder the sport is in decline , why would one do a add that puts shame to ones life long passion and pursuit , I know you will say money , but money gained through poor self esteem I would suggest !!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Disgusted on May 10, 2006, 07:39:42 PM
That is Jitka Harazimova.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 07:40:59 PM
That is Jitka Harazimova.

You could very well be right!

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Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: gordiano on May 10, 2006, 07:41:45 PM
That is Jitka Harazimova.

I think you are right.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 07:41:58 PM
Baby got back.

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Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 07:44:10 PM
If she is a IFBB PRO does this type of work not bring the sport and the IFBB into disrepute thus breaching the rules laid out by the IFBB on these matters thus warranting a fine and a suspension for such actions ?? Bob ?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Disgusted on May 10, 2006, 07:46:10 PM
If she is a IFBB PRO does this type of work not bring the sport and the IFBB into disrepute thus breaching the rules laid out by the IFBB on these matters thus warranting a fine and a suspension for such actions ?? Bob ?

It is Jitka and you're joking right?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 07:48:16 PM
No read the rules on this type of matter they are very clear , aparently ? :-\
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Disgusted on May 10, 2006, 07:50:42 PM
No read the rules on this type of matter they are very clear , aparently ? :-\

What type of matter are you reffering to?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Farcry on May 10, 2006, 07:50:59 PM
I think she cares more about making money than how fbb are potrayed and there is nothing wrong with that. she has to eat too
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 07:56:52 PM
Well it sort of pertrays the female bodybuilder,and in this case a ifbb pro bodybuilder, to be a undesirable object of affection, and this could be likened to all female bodybuilders in general, thus bringing a unfavorable image to the sport , which in the IFBB Pro rules is not allowed , i know i am picking hairs here but it could be a possibility ??? and besides i am a little pissed that a IFBB Pro would allow them self to be pertrayed this way , to be honest !!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Wombat on May 10, 2006, 08:31:49 PM
Well it sort of pertrays the female bodybuilder,and in this case a ifbb pro bodybuilder, to be a undesirable object of affection, and this could be likened to all female bodybuilders in general, thus bringing a unfavorable image to the sport , which in the IFBB Pro rules is not allowed , i know i am picking hairs here but it could be a possibility ??? and besides i am a little pissed that a IFBB Pro would allow them self to be pertrayed this way , to be honest !!

c'mon Hardcore...The f cking chick shoots male freaking hormones in her body...She lost her mind years ago doing sh t like that...They are no different then Shasha shooting female hormones in his body...No one in their right mind will ever take them seriously.  Hence is why Axe made a commercial like that...
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: HRDCOR on May 10, 2006, 08:34:04 PM
Quote
c'mon Hardcore...The f cking chick shoots male freaking hormones in her body...She lost her mind years ago doing sh t like that...They are no different then Shasha shooting female hormones in his body...No one in their right mind will ever take them seriously.  Hence is why Axe made a commercial like that...                 



Yeah good point , its a shame though huh , that she would let herself be pertrayed in that vain !!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 10, 2006, 08:49:00 PM
The real funny thing is, she made more in that commercial (minimum $20,000) then she would if she had won 4 pro shows

ROFL... TV's where all the money is, I think she realizes that, either way it got her foot through the door.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Johnny Apollo on May 10, 2006, 08:59:24 PM
The real funny thing is, she made more in that commercial (minimum $20,000) then she would if she had won 4 pro shows

ROFL... TV's where all the money is, I think she realizes that, either way it got her foot through the door.



1.20,000 is highly doubtful.


2.After a tv ad like that it's doubtful she'll get anymore roles. No one seems to understand that.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Captain Equipoise on May 10, 2006, 09:01:35 PM

1.20,000 is highly doubtful.


2.After a tv ad like that it's doubtful she'll get anymore roles. No one seems to understand that.

It's not highly doubtful, I have several friends who have done TV comercials, the pay for a major role is $20,000
ask around.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 10, 2006, 09:39:17 PM
If she is a IFBB PRO does this type of work not bring the sport and the IFBB into disrepute thus breaching the rules laid out by the IFBB on these matters thus warranting a fine and a suspension for such actions ?? Bob ?

So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 10, 2006, 09:50:47 PM
The real funny thing is, she made more in that commercial (minimum $20,000) then she would if she had won 4 pro shows

ROFL... TV's where all the money is, I think she realizes that, either way it got her foot through the door.


Is that a print ad or TV commercial.  If it is a print add she would be lucky if she made $1,000.  If it is a commercial and a national then she could make some good money.  Depends on the markets its in and how many and how long it plays.  Her daily if she was a union player would be as a day player so it would be around $600 or whatever the day rate is now.  Then she gets residual payments on top of that depending on the criteria I listed.  It could have been a buyout and she got one payment like I got for Apple Computer.  I have never seen this commercial here.  And I don't know the exact market segments.  And yes she got her foot in the door and thats whats important in that industry and the hardest part.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 10, 2006, 09:52:02 PM
I just save a bunch of money on my car insurance.

LOL (Geico)
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: dzulboy on May 10, 2006, 09:52:17 PM
i really thoguht it was colette nelson
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 10, 2006, 10:00:55 PM
It's not highly doubtful, I have several friends who have done TV comercials, the pay for a major role is $20,000
ask around.

That is not true.  I have been in 44 commercials including 16 nationals.  Their is no such thing as "pay for a major role."  Big name stars are the only people who get to negotiate price for a commercial.  If the ad agency and client wants Chuck Norris to do a spot.  They will ask him and he and his agent will tell them how much he will do it for.  Chuck refused to do a commercial for Scarab Boats.  He wanted $1 million for the spot.  The cliet said no.  They offered him a new 36' Scarab off shore boat.  His agent and attorney Mike Emery decided hell yes.  Not bad for a 30 second spot.  Plus Chuck raced off shores boats for awhile too.

The thing about commercials is anyone can do the part.  If someone wants something unreasonable or is a headache to work with, there are another 1000 waiting to do it.  Almost always all you get is your daily fee which is a set amount.  Usually the SAG minimum (which I don't know what it is now, CHic would know).  If it goes national then you can start making money.  Of all the commercials I did Old El Paso Salsa paid me the most, $32,000+.  And that was over a time period of around 15 months or so.  I know several friends who have made $100,000+ off one commercial.  That is very rare.  But there is no such thing as a major role pay, unless you are someone popular or a star.  
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Johnny Apollo on May 10, 2006, 10:36:51 PM
Why were you in Commercials?

Onlyme.


What do you do that makes you special to be in commercials?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2006, 10:38:48 PM
What do you do that makes you special to be in commercials?

onlyme was a 300 pound arm wrestling champ who knows just about everybody.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 10, 2006, 10:42:14 PM
Why were you in Commercials?

Onlyme.


What do you do that makes you special to be in commercials?

Why do you have to be special to be in commercials.  It's what the casting dirstor is looking for that particular day.  I bet I wnet on at least 300 interviews easy in 9 years and I got 44 commercials. That isn't all that good.  Now 16 nationals is good though, even though 6 of them were a series.  And yes actually being the armwrestling champ dd get me allot of work.  Apple loved the angle of armwrstling and actually added it to the commercial.  I have posted a link to it here.   Turn up the sound cause it is awesome

http://www.uriahcarpenter.info/the-power-to-be-your-best.html (http://www.uriahcarpenter.info/the-power-to-be-your-best.html)
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 10, 2006, 10:50:24 PM
I am after the baseball pitcher who is after the boxer (Henry Tillman who beat Tyson twice).  Before you rag onme for how short a time I was in it.  This commercial is a 1 minute and it debut in the first game of the 1987 World Series. Stan Dragotti was the director who has won many many awards and was married to Michelle Pfeifer.  The guy I am armwrestling is Charlie Sexius who was Hulk Hogan stunt double.  This was a buyout for $10,000.  IT was my very first commercial I ever read for and did.  I went Taft Hartley on this commercial (as I did for the 2 others I got in the next 30 days.)
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Sir William Idol on May 11, 2006, 12:40:00 AM
I am after the baseball pitcher who is after the boxer (Henry Tillman who beat Tyson twice).  Before you rag onme for how short a time I was in it.  This commercial is a 1 minute and it debut in the first game of the 1987 World Series. Stan Dragotti was the director who has won many many awards and was married to Michelle Pfeifer.  The guy I am armwrestling is Charlie Sexius who was Hulk Hogan stunt double.  This was a buyout for $10,000.  IT was my very first commercial I ever read for and did.  I went Taft Hartley on this commercial (as I did for the 2 others I got in the next 30 days.)

kick ass man, way to go
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 01:50:42 AM
kick ass man, way to go

I remember when my agent called to tell me when it was going to be on.  I called every person I knew.  I was talking to my friend who is also in the business.  He told me that he hopes I was in it.  I said what.  He said well they could cut you out and you'll make nothing but the day pay.  Ididn't know this.  Well after we hung up I was with my girlfriend watching the series.  All of a sudden it comes on.  Awesome!  After 30 seconds I wasn't on.  I couldn't believe it.  But then it kept going.  Then all of a sudden there I was.  A blink of the eye but I was on. I got so fucking excited.  Then about 5 seconds after it was over the phone rang.  It was my attorney.  Hesays "Keith I was drinking some coffee and blinked my eyes, were you in it.  He was making fun of me how short a time I was in it.  But, then said good job.

When I went in for this commercial I had to read fro Sheila Manning who is a very well known casting director in LA.  They were looking for a football player.  When I arrived half the LA Raiders were in the office.  I mean I swear every guy who ever played footballl was in this office.  That is actually when I first met Alzado and Howie Long and Matt Millen (who is big as hell).  Anywaym my name gets called and I am really nervous.  The ask me to slate which means you say your name and agent.  So I did.  Then they asked me what posittion I played and I said well I don't really play football.  They said well you are so big you must do something.  I said yes I am a professional armwerestler.  In fact I am leaving this weekend to shoot a movie called Over The Top in Vegas starring Stallone.  Well the seem very impressed and smiled and said thank you.  Well a few weeks later after I got home from Vegas I get a call from my agent and he said its unreal you got the commercial.  I said no way.  He said they had a meeting and liked you and your size but were very impressed with the armwrestling so they changed the commercial around and added armwrestling.  My agent couldn't believe they did that to a major commercial.  And that is how I got it.  I actually got 6 nationals commercials in my frist 8 interviews.  I had a very good record at the start. Then it leveled off with allot of local and a couple industrials.  Great industry and allot of fun.  I am surprised more BB don't do it.  They have to lose allot of size but it is worth it.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: WOOO on May 11, 2006, 03:17:35 AM
Is the add implying that waking up next to a female bodybuilder is a shame !!!??
no shit...
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Laura Lee on May 11, 2006, 03:20:31 AM
$10,000 for 2 seconds isn't bad.  How long was the original tape and how long did it take to film just your part Onlyme?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: gtbro1 on May 11, 2006, 03:38:39 AM
$10,000 for 2 seconds isn't bad.  How long was the original tape and how long did it take to film just your part Onlyme?

Thats $ 300,000  an hour...not too shaby.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: LuciusFox on May 11, 2006, 03:41:35 AM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

  Excellent post!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: rocket on May 11, 2006, 03:44:21 AM
Baha

"Hello I am keith jones, I have instantly transported to the secret location of the commercial shoot.  I require no makeup or direction, I simply exist to be here for the next 2 seconds.  Excuse me sir.  Hello old chap, hold your hand out, here we go.  Right.   Shoot over.  Thankyou for the money.  I bid thee farewell."
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 11, 2006, 06:56:32 AM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

HRDCOR, can you or anyone who knows the IFBB rules please respond to this???????????

This is a more important question than "how to get into commercials" :-\!!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 11, 2006, 07:05:03 AM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

I noticed Joe Roark and Isaack (lift studios) were on here, maybe they can shed some light on this question!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 11, 2006, 07:17:50 AM
Is it only me (haha) who thinks itīs fjukced up to change your last name to Sexius?  ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Stavios on May 11, 2006, 07:25:02 AM
Hey I don't think the bber who were on Malcom in the middle gave a ggod name to bb either.

They looked so damn stupid
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: buffbodz on May 11, 2006, 07:53:42 AM
The new AXE Body cologne commercial asks: "Shamed by a questionable hookup?" then shows a young man waking up and being grinned at by a flexing female BBer, looking a lot like Joanna Thomas.  Anyone seen it?

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I think the chick is much better looken than Joanna Thomas.  Well If she got her teeth fixed and put on a ton of makeup then dieted away some of that mass than maby your right.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: ether on May 11, 2006, 09:33:11 AM
Hey man,

She prolly got a hell of a lot more than she ever would in the IFBB.


I don't know much about pro shows, but I remember someone posting that Chick won 10G's for his first place finish at the masters.

Considering he spent 10 solid weeks preparing for that contest, not to mention gear and food....he made 1G a weeK??????


Jeez man, i was making that working part time doing research in the summers during med school and that was almost 8 yrs ago!!!


Then people wonder why there is some support for the PDI.


I can't help myself with this one though.....



CHICK, MONSTER PROFIT MARGIN!



Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 11, 2006, 10:09:28 AM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

Still no response.....why??
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 11:41:11 AM
$10,000 for 2 seconds isn't bad.  How long was the original tape and how long did it take to film just your part Onlyme?

No no I was in it for 1/2 a second 16 frames if I recall right.  The funny part is Stan had no idea how to setup the shot.  So he asked me where he should put the camera.  I really thought that was cool.  They also had the smoke machine going which paid me an extra $150 for hazardous atmoshpere.  That is where the union comes in great, they really think of everything.  I was there for a total of about 3 hours but the actual shoot not counting setup was about 45 miinutes.  I remember when I got the check a couple months later, I told my girlfriend I LOVE this business.  Others who were in the studio that day was Henry Tillman and Whitney Houston.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 11:42:29 AM
Thats $ 300,000  an hour...not too shaby.


Yea I bet everyone wished that how is paid out.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 11:52:31 AM
Is it only me (haha) who thinks itīs fjukced up to change your last name to Sexius?  ;D

Charlie didn't change his name.  That is his real name and he was very nice.  We became friends and he gave me allot fo advice over the years in regards to the industry.  One was you do not have to use your agent for every job.  WHen I was on Knotts Landing I got that on my own.  The director was a friend of mine.  But, I told my agent about it.  And everything went through him.  Well, that meant he got his 10% fee.  In most instances the agent will handle everything regarding the job and the contract will include his fee.  In some others it maybe taken out of your pay.  This so happen to be that way.  And Charlie told me I didn't have to tell my agent everythign I did.  Just like Dangerous Curves with Leslie Nielson.  I was in Florida doing an appearance in Ft. Meyers when I got a call on Friday from my friend Eddie Braun who was the stunt coordinator asking me if I wanted to come to San Diego and work on this film with him to play Leslie's bodyguard and do a few stunts.  I said yes and went.  I didn't go through my agent for that one either or any of the Orange juice.  So you don't have to tell your agent everything.

The way you pronounced Sexius is "say chus"  Not "sex us"
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Laura Lee on May 11, 2006, 12:53:21 PM
No no I was in it for 1/2 a second 16 frames if I recall right.  The funny part is Stan had no idea how to setup the shot.  So he asked me where he should put the camera.  I really thought that was cool.  They also had the smoke machine going which paid me an extra $150 for hazardous atmoshpere.  That is where the union comes in great, they really think of everything.  I was there for a total of about 3 hours but the actual shoot not counting setup was about 45 miinutes.  I remember when I got the check a couple months later, I told my girlfriend I LOVE this business.  Others who were in the studio that day was Henry Tillman and Whitney Houston.
wtf, I was in a movie for longer than that and got nothin!  >:(  I need a new agent, damn it!
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Ahmad on May 11, 2006, 01:24:45 PM
The FBB on the Ad is Collete Nelson, Palumbo's girlfriend. Jitka was on the TV ad.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: youandme on May 11, 2006, 01:53:18 PM
wtf, I was in a movie for longer than that and got nothin!  >:(  I need a new agent, damn it!
Stand ins dont count ;)

Onlyme, on the instances where you didnt tell your agent did he find out?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Dingleberry on May 11, 2006, 02:06:41 PM
Damn Onlyme, that's funny. I used that same mac commercial for a college presentation I did. It was a marketing class.
I took out the original sounds and replaced it with Rage against the machine's "KILLING IN THE NAME". It was bad ass. To think you are in it, wow, small world. 

If you want, I'll e-mail it to you. Just PM me. I should still have it.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Unchained81 on May 11, 2006, 02:49:59 PM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

Exactly, but what do you expect from the IFBB it is ran by shmoes.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: LuciusFox on May 11, 2006, 03:03:32 PM
Hey man,

She prolly got a hell of a lot more than she ever would in the IFBB.


I don't know much about pro shows, but I remember someone posting that Chick won 10G's for his first place finish at the masters.

Considering he spent 10 solid weeks preparing for that contest, not to mention gear and food....he made 1G a weeK??????


Jeez man, i was making that working part time doing research in the summers during med school and that was almost 8 yrs ago!!!


Then people wonder why there is some support for the PDI.


I can't help myself with this one though.....



CHICK, MONSTER PROFIT MARGIN!





  Great post. Looking at contests winnings as the result of a day's work is obviously not sensible. I loved the last line, too ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: puredrive on May 11, 2006, 03:58:24 PM
she didnt get 20grand. maybe if it were a ford commercial or pepsi. but not axe. also, you dont get union rates until you join the union. which you must do union work first to be able to join. unless she got a balance waiver for this being her first in which case she would not have the best deal as far as pay goes. generally they pay a flat rate to non-unions. if she is union, she would have gotten the day rate plus resids above and beyond the first buy. also, cable does not count. they can show it a million times on cable. you dont get a dime in residual money. you only get it for local networks. and it is a declining scale based on buy rates.
most likely, she will make, if she is union and gets decent pay, about 5-7000. but not more than that. it simply will not be shown on major networks during dinner time every night.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Dtank76 on May 11, 2006, 04:31:40 PM
actually the commercial has been airing on mtv for a couple months now
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: 240 is Back on May 11, 2006, 04:32:36 PM
actually the commercial has been airing on mtv for a couple months now

So you're saying no real adults have seen it?
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 11, 2006, 04:38:35 PM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

Still no response........the non-response to my legit question is an answer in itself. Bob, your the "athletes" rep, can you answer this question???
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on May 11, 2006, 09:33:01 PM
So let me get this straight. She does a legit commercial and makes an honest buck, but if someone does a gay for pay shoot or movie nothing happends???

If thats the case this industry is clearly as fucked up as I had imagined and has it's priorities COMPLETLY backwords!!

No, wait...let me guess. Don't ask Don't tell??
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 09:58:18 PM
wtf, I was in a movie for longer than that and got nothin!  >:(  I need a new agent, damn it!

The problem is that I was the principle player in this commercial.  All others are extras.  Doesn't matter how many there are or how long they are in a shot.  To tell you the truth everyone in that commercial could have been paid extra pay and no one would have said a thing.  But that is where being a member of SAG comes in very handy. 
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 11, 2006, 10:16:58 PM
she didnt get 20grand. maybe if it were a ford commercial or pepsi. but not axe. also, you dont get union rates until you join the union. which you must do union work first to be able to join. unless she got a balance waiver for this being her first in which case she would not have the best deal as far as pay goes. generally they pay a flat rate to non-unions. if she is union, she would have gotten the day rate plus resids above and beyond the first buy. also, cable does not count. they can show it a million times on cable. you dont get a dime in residual money. you only get it for local networks. and it is a declining scale based on buy rates.
most likely, she will make, if she is union and gets decent pay, about 5-7000. but not more than that. it simply will not be shown on major networks during dinner time every night.

You are kind of right.  There is something called Taft-Hartley.  Basically it allows someone to work a union job, get all the union benefits as if they were actually union.  The thing is, you can only do this for 30 after your first day of work.  After the 30 days is up you are considered a "must-sign" which means before doing anymore union work you have to join the union.  This is very advantageous to people who know or think they will never work again or a one time deal.  You can work 30 days total if you can without paying any dues or have the money you made in that time have any bearing on your dues amount.  I am not sure what dues are nowadays.  I actually did 3 more spots in the month I went Taft-Hartley.  The following month I picked up  Gillette commercial

I remember going into the audition.  There was a bunch of bald headed guys and a few of us with hair.  We were all talking and wondering why some were bald and some weren't  I said I thought this commercial was for someone to shave their head.  And a few guys said they thought it was for someone who was bald already.  They actually shaved their heads that morning.  Well one of the assistants came out and said everyone who has a shaved head can go home they needed someone to shave their head on camera.  I ended up with it.  The day befoee the shoot they production office called and asked me for my SAG number.  I told them I wasn;t SAG yet I was a must sign.  She goes oh no we thought you were union.  She put me on hold and came back in about a minute or two.  She said I needed to go to the SAG office immediately and join.  I said I had no money on me.  She said thats okay we'll pay for it.  SO I went down and joined and it didn't cost me anything.  I got paid $8,400 for the buyout which also included a photoshoot for the billboaard and ad posters.

It was shown in Puerto Rico and South America.  It was for the Gillette Probak II razor.  It won a foreign Cleo and was feautured on Johnny Carson in 1988 in his best foregin commercials segment.  Myself and Don Ross did it along with another guy.  That is a pic of us below.  The other one is a still from the Apple commercial.  I kinda miss it and if I do ever go back to LA will start up again.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 09:27:10 AM
You are kind of right.  There is something called Taft-Hartley.  Basically it allows someone to work a union job, get all the union benefits as if they were actually union.  The thing is, you can only do this for 30 after your first day of work.  After the 30 days is up you are considered a "must-sign" which means before doing anymore union work you have to join the union.  This is very advantageous to people who know or think they will never work again or a one time deal.  You can work 30 days total if you can without paying any dues or have the money you made in that time have any bearing on your dues amount.  I am not sure what dues are nowadays.  I actually did 3 more spots in the month I went Taft-Hartley.  The following month I picked up  Gillette commercial

I remember going into the audition.  There was a bunch of bald headed guys and a few of us with hair.  We were all talking and wondering why some were bald and some weren't  I said I thought this commercial was for someone to shave their head.  And a few guys said they thought it was for someone who was bald already.  They actually shaved their heads that morning.  Well one of the assistants came out and said everyone who has a shaved head can go home they needed someone to shave their head on camera.  I ended up with it.  The day befoee the shoot they production office called and asked me for my SAG number.  I told them I wasn;t SAG yet I was a must sign.  She goes oh no we thought you were union.  She put me on hold and came back in about a minute or two.  She said I needed to go to the SAG office immediately and join.  I said I had no money on me.  She said thats okay we'll pay for it.  SO I went down and joined and it didn't cost me anything.  I got paid $8,400 for the buyout which also included a photoshoot for the billboaard and ad posters.

It was shown in Puerto Rico and South America.  It was for the Gillette Probak II razor.  It won a foreign Cleo and was feautured on Johnny Carson in 1988 in his best foregin commercials segment.  Myself and Don Ross did it along with another guy.  That is a pic of us below.  The other one is a still from the Apple commercial.  I kinda miss it and if I do ever go back to LA will start up again.

  Your noggin and mustache make you look like an old timey strongman ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 12, 2006, 11:18:08 AM
Yea I guess I do look a little like an old timer there.  Too bad it wasn't longer so I could twist it. The funny thing too about this shoot was I wouldn't shave my mustache off.  The other two guys had to shave what they had and I refused unless they paid me another grand.  They didn't so I didn't.  I later did a MTV video for some band (i can't remember the name) and they wanted me bald.  I was just growing the hair back and I shaved it again for just a grand cash but kept the moustache in that too.  I have never shaved my moustache except I have been tempted.
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: LuciusFox on May 12, 2006, 11:22:45 AM
Yea I guess I do look a little like an old timer there.  Too bad it wasn't longer so I could twist it. The funny thing too about this shoot was I wouldn't shave my mustache off.  The other two guys had to shave what they had and I refused unless they paid me another grand.  They didn't so I didn't.  I later did a MTV video for some band (i can't remember the name) and they wanted me bald.  I was just growing the hair back and I shaved it again for just a grand cash but kept the moustache in that too.  I have never shaved my moustache except I have been tempted.

  How long do you think it would take you to grow it back and when is the last time you didn't have it? ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Pro in AXE commercial
Post by: onlyme on May 12, 2006, 12:08:14 PM
Once I got it in I have never shaved it.  I had absolutely no face hair in high school.  Didn't shave once.  Once out of high school I started to grow it. So around 18 I started the stache coming in.  Haven't shaved it since.