I don't think pro bodybuilding is the right lifestyle for someone with compromised kidney function.
What are the odds for a: "I'm doing this natural"
I feel sorry for him and his sister.
YIP
Zack
And to think there are people dying literally to have a kidney. This guy is a real piece of work.
Maybe he has like 5 more sisters...
Good to know people learned from Tom Prince and Flex Wheeler ::)i think long dropped out before wheeler and t.p. had their probs
Been up to?teh chads mouth is watering(http://www.peacefulpastures.com/photos-meat/kidney-lg.jpg)
YIP
Zack
240 is very good to create rumors. I will wait for an official source to knwo if it is true or not.
Plus if Don was coming back in the PDI, 240 would praise how good he is
I got the scoop from an oddsmaker who did time with a guy named Craig who totalled a jag once washed by a girl in a bikini who worked at Quickie Wash and as the understudy for the Redline hottie at expo booths.
You know who I'm talking about.
Shawn's mom ? ;D
I call bullshit-don can not juice without getting sick.he will die if tries.
Maybe he's sick of living?
First off...amazing that few of you can actually READ....NO ONE said that DON is making a comeback and competing.
240 started a thread, and you all jumped to your own conclusions....as usual.
Don's Kidney transplant didn't take as of 2 years ago due to rejection...he's been back on dialysis since.
NO, he isn't planing a comeback...
Don't call it a comeback... Don Long doing the Atlantic City IFBB show
Last minute swoop-in for the O qualification.
kind of says it all, doesn't it?
Should give light to ANYTHING 240 writes...
Well.
I would've been very sceptic, if I these pics weren't taken earlier on this year:
I think it's safe to say that Don Long is definitely a few sandwiches short of a picnic.(http://komp.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200511/51.jpg)
Sad.
YIP
Zack
Should give light to ANYTHING 240 writes...
I was told by another IFBB pro that Don Long is indeed competing at the Atlantic City.
The guy has been very reliable in the past.
Chick, didn't you make the statement there would be no V Galanti at the NOC, and ended up with egg on your face?
Hedgehog is right. Past comments about other topics don't matter - the topic here is whether Don will compete. Which it looks like a 240 word job saying nothing so far...
Forget about whether or not Don is competing, and whether or not that makes him a dumbass. The fact that he is wearing one of those fooking stupid wireless earpieces...during an interview...makes him a supreme dushbag.
WTF do people walk around wearing those things? Don't they realize how freaking stupid they look? I was on vacation recently, and at the beach where we were hanging out, there was some Dad with his kids. He had one of the earpieces in the who fooking time yapping away...."Hi Jm, how are those stocks doing? Me? Oh just relaxing on the beach speding quality time with the kids you know". He might as well not have even been there... moron ::)
I would love to see you attend a PTA meeting.... Can you guys picture Yemeni standing up all jacked and bringing a point about something wrong with the school system. The panel agrees and you hear him scream owned!!! Later some old pig gets all worked up and you hear someone mutter meltdown lolol
First off...amazing that few of you can actually READ....NO ONE said that DON is making a comeback and competing.
240 started a thread, and you all jumped to your own conclusions....as usual.
Don's Kidney transplant didn't take as of 2 years ago due to rejection...he's been back on dialysis since.
NO, he isn't planing a comeback...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=80836.0;attach=86605;image)
Well, one of us is clearly wrong. He may be on dialysis, but in that pic above, the guy looks more jacked than half the competing pros.
Ron, can you contact Don Long and get clarification about whether he's coming back or not?
I was told by another IFBB pro that Don Long is indeed competing at the Atlantic City.
The guy has been very reliable in the past.
I was told by another IFBB pro that Don Long is indeed competing at the Atlantic City.
The guy has been very reliable in the past.
Chick, didn't you make the statement there would be no V Galanti at the NOC, and ended up with egg on your face?
Right. And we all know how accurate those racist accusations you made, were, eh Bob?
Did you ever end up apologizing for calling me that, even when confronted with proof of how AOL proxies worked? Or did ya just stop answering questions about it...?
bob made some claims about his friend Tom prince, right?
those claims were later shown to be false by getbig members right?
If he misspoke about the last guy's comeback....
I will never apoligize for that because I firmly believe you were behind it...It was also never proven you WERE NOT the one doing it...the proof showed it could indeed have been you.
It's also never been proven that you don't like sniffing men's underwear, yet it doesn't mean you do :-\
It's also never been proven that you don't like sniffing men's underwear, yet it doesn't mean you do :-\
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...
It was 240's IP that matched "whoever" was making the posts, at the same time he was posting under his handle...then came here to getbig to announce it..I didn't just pull it out of left field like your analogy.
Bob knew damn well that Tom was juicing for the 2004 Ironman. Obviously if Tom shared it with everyone on mayhem he would have shared it with Bob. Bob lied to us once, so I don't see why he can't be lying to us again.
I don't think you quite understand what the term "burden of proof" means Bob. You made the positive clam and it's up to you to prove your claim beyond a reasonable doubt.
You haven't done that yet.
Stop debating with 240. You have no more business debating him any more than he does competing with you in a bodybuilding show.
He-is-smarter-than-you-and-you-are-bigger-than-him.
Both of you should remain experts in your chosen fields - bodybuilding for you and internet geek for 240 (soon to get raped in the ass in federal prison).
don't believe everything you read.
It was 240's IP that matched "whoever" was making the posts, at the same time he was posting under his handle...then came here to getbig to announce it..I didn't just pull it out of left field like your analogy.
Bob,
I am willing to put down 10 grand bet on a poly that it wasn't me.
I demonstrated proof that the IP came from an AOL block of IPs. With the script the racist prick was using to spam BBing.com dozens of times per minute (obviously bypassing the one-post per minute limit), his packets traveled in with my sitejaws account, where i was posting about the PDI.
After being shown this proof, you decided to call the IP stuff 'mumbo jumbo', then decided to accuse me of welfare fraud.
Your posts of "This member is a racist" were classless and crude. And they were wrong. And you're a shitty BBer. That is all :)
240, haven't you learned your lesson from Kamali trying to sue you.
BTW, what's the deal with welfare fraud???
I asked Ron to contact Don to confirm/deny. Or, give me the number and i'll call it myself.
And, for the 337th time, you need:
1) a demonstrated need, and
2) children
to collect welfare under florida law.
However, I have neither of these. But, little things like logic or facts haven't stopped idiots from making that accusation. Sheeit, I'd love to get a welfare check- something for nothing.
I was going to post that Don's kidney's had failed and he was back on dialysis but I thought I'd let someone else inform you. Pleasant surprise Chick did. You should next time check the facts before opening your big mouth. Don's barely alive.
Vince believes he boosts business by always having his name in things.are you suggesting that if Vince was "in business" in November of 1963 that he would have somehow superimposed a picture of himself trying to shield President Kennedy from the bullets in Dallas, 240?
Does this work? i don't think so. Some think it does.
You will not see a controversial thread on here without Vince chiming with "i knew about that" or "that guy tried to kill me too!" or "my supplements cure cancer" or "the IFBB is paying me to blah blah"
Like clockwork. Brutal bandwagonning.
Vince believes he boosts business by always having his name in things.
Does this work? i don't think so. Some think it does.
You will not see a controversial thread on here without Vince chiming with "i knew about that" or "that guy tried to kill me too!" or "my supplements cure cancer" or "the IFBB is paying me to blah blah"
Like clockwork. Brutal bandwagonning.
are you suggesting that if Vince was "in business" in November of 1963 that he would have somehow superimposed a picture of himself trying to shield President Kennedy from the bullets in Dallas, 240?
Brutal claim of "I had breaking news but I let others break it and now I wante credit for it!"
I got the scoop from an IFBB pro and posted it. I have asked Ron to verify. Go eat your cookies and STFU already :)
240 has came to the conclusion that Don Long is going to compete without no kidney's....... ::) Even David Blaine couldn't pull that shit off.
It was pretty much known by a lot of people so its not breaking news. His kidneys were rejected 2 YEARS AGO. A lot of time, dum dum
Vince believes he boosts business by always having his name in things.
Does this work? i don't think so. Some think it does.
You will not see a controversial thread on here without Vince chiming with "i knew about that" or "that guy tried to kill me too!" or "my supplements cure cancer" or "the IFBB is paying me to blah blah"
Like clockwork. Brutal bandwagonning.
That is all :)
There's no need to. HE'S ON DIALYSIS!!!!! End of story. Virtually impossible for him to compete unless he has a death wish
Rejected kidneys in 2004.
Yet he had the courage to use enough gear to show up like this, in 2006.
What is missing here?
Obviously Don is not afraid to juice to the gills after having a rejected Kidney, so why is it so hard to believe he would compete again? The Guy apparently has to regard for his health.
BTW Bob Chick makes Italians look bad. I wish Bob did not have an Italian last name.
Does CHick even have his highschool diploma? By the way he articulates himself I would guess the answear is no.
IF he manages to survive to even step onstage, he'll be flat and bloated because he wouldn't be able to get rid of the water retention due to having no working kidneys.
Then more than likely, the IFBB will not allow him to compete anyway. They can revoke an athlete from competing if they find that he's taking risk thats detrimental to his health. This would be one of them. Ask Chick if it isn't in the rulebook
IF he manages to survive to even step onstage, he'll be flat and bloated because he wouldn't be able to get rid of the water retention due to having no working kidneys.
Then more than likely, the IFBB will not allow him to compete anyway. They can revoke an athlete from competing if they find that he's taking risk thats detrimental to his health. This would be one of them. Ask Chick if it isn't in the rulebook
Don's barely alive.
IF he manages to survive to even step onstage
BTW, don't bet 10 grand unless you have it. You are poor, get used to it until you develop you business and suffer like I did to build it up
Vince, what % of business owners do you feel have to "suffer" like you did for several years until they "build it up"?
Then, please tell me why I fall into this percentage, even though I operate a business with no overhead, steady demand, and programming economies of scale.
Well, which is it? Is he barely alive, or is he capable of showing up on gameday in contest shape and being banned? You're talking out both of your assholes here.
i thought u was stepping away from the boards for awhile
I have been. but, Vince suddenly is playing the Trump card.
Vince, what % of business owners do you feel have to "suffer" like you did for several years until they "build it up"?
Then, please tell me why I fall into this percentage, even though I operate a business with no overhead, steady demand, and programming economies of scale.
Says the man who knows more about bloated conditioning than most bull seals.
Vince, what % of business owners do you feel have to "suffer" like you did for several years until they "build it up"?
Then, please tell me why I fall into this percentage, even though I operate a business with no overhead, steady demand, and programming economies of scale.
Every business is some overhead. Having your wife pay for all of your stuff doesn't count as having no overhead.
Better go sell some websites, you gotta feed that baby when he comes
So:
What about 240 or bust's claims of Don Long coming back and Cicherillo claiming he isn't?
Both can't be right.
Perhaps you could explain what you heard about him competing again 240.
YIP
Zack
I hope there is no truth to Don Long coming back...............hopefully it's another internet rumor. It would be disrespectul to his sister if it's true, I mean what's to be gained? Move on with and be glad that you still have our LIFE!
Not very smart.........
Wow, i actually used to treat you as a worthy conversation/debate and not a common troll who would involve family.
I guess you're trash too, Vince.
240, if you want to make good money, I have a great deal on a couple of stolen Bee Pollen bottles.
If you plan to bring the squawk, then don't mad when the rooster comes flying back to ya.
Vince = trash.
I asked Ron to verify it, or for someone to scoot me his email so i can ask him myself. Other pros have competed after kidney ailments, and in pics for mthis year, Don looks a *little* more jacked than Flex or TP after their battles.
Vince = trash.
I asked Ron to verify it, or for someone to scoot me his email so i can ask him myself. Other pros have competed after kidney ailments, and in pics for mthis year, Don looks a *little* more jacked than Flex or TP after their battles.
Vince = trash.
I asked Ron to verify it, or for someone to scoot me his email so i can ask him myself. Other pros have competed after kidney ailments, and in pics for mthis year, Don looks a *little* more jacked than Flex or TP after their battles.
240= Buy a website so I can feed my baby's momma..... ;D
I think steroids are hard on the liver not the kidney ???
MAybe that is why he is jacked but I don't think he will take the risk to get deshydrated
Trash.
Getting mad 240?? I know you are....good. Think about all the people you've made fun of, they were mad too.
No, I just thought you were a good debater who used facts and reason to tlak about topics. Instead, you're attempting to "get 240 mad" by speaking on family. It's trashy, really. It turns a good discussion into two kids talking shit. Well, now there's just one...
Of course I'm trashing you. That's my style. I hope you realize this isn't Vince........ ;D
Now go get your fucking shinebox, you cheap website peddling son of a bitch
oxygen thief.
What does CSN MFT mean?
Is that some sort of designation or something?
Can anyone just start making up shit to put after their name to sound important?
Sincerely,
Ether PFR, CNR, FLT, FLNG.
What about 240 or bust's claims of Don Long coming back and Cicherillo claiming he isn't?
Both can't be right.
Perhaps you could explain what you heard about him competing again 240.
I am speaking from new information from a reliable source and not denied by another source. I believe that it is true. Don is 11 weeks out from the Atlantic City.
Bob Chic can contact Don Long is he wishes to find out whether it's true or not. Should take him 5 minutes to verify he is correct and publicly berate me over it, which he has attempted to do in the past with no luck (that racist BS and Bob's claim of Taylor/Galanti non-PDI futures).
Ron is trying tonight to get ahold of Don to check it out. Hopefully we'll find out soon.
How are you connected to the PDI?Quote
I build websites!
Stop being a big baby, 240. After all, you'll have to take care of one soon. At least we won't have to hear your fucking mouth as much, oh wait, you'll problably just get your wife to do it..... ::)
240 started a thread, and you all jumped to your own conclusions....as usual.
Don's Kidney transplant didn't take as of 2 years ago due to rejection...he's been back on dialysis since.
NO, he isn't planing a comeback...
Should give light to ANYTHING 240 writes...
I was going to post that Don's kidney's had failed and he was back on dialysis but I thought I'd let someone else inform you. Pleasant surprise Chick did. You should next time check the facts before opening your big mouth. Don's barely alive.
240 has came to the conclusion that Don Long is going to compete without no kidney's....... ::) Even David Blaine couldn't pull that shit off.
If you folks are willing to believe this guy then you need to get your head checked.
Please stop this posting. Just like Chick said, he isn't getting back on stage.....ever.
maybe he's planning on doing a Mike Morris?
Don't be so sure about him competing still.
1. He still has to make it onstage
2. He'll have to get IFBB clearance to compete
But it appears that I was mistaken in him wanting to compete. But he's a complete moron if he does because he's risking his life.
REAL men don't need kidneys..
I wish he could risk your life when competing
REAL men don't need kidneys..just ask teh chad
I am not a Dr but to take AAS this affects mostly the liver and perhaps Cardiovascular system, heart arteries etc.
It's the large amount of Protein and possible diuretics that will affect the kidney.
Who knows, maybe he can get by without the diruetics and use .75 -1 gm of protein per pound of BW.
Other thing is maybe he truly has a knowledgeable DR in his corner helping him thru every step of the process.
I am not condoning his behavior but I had the pleasure of meeting him yrs ago and he was a nice guy.
Should give light to ANYTHING 240 writes...which was obviously meant to embarass me and discredit everything I"ve ever said.
Let's just talk facts, and end the baseless personal attacks.Spoilsport. >:(
But,I think he is really really really really really really really really really stupid or what?Don't sweat it brah.
Will he come in natural? Even natural body consume a lot of protein...
Wanna die or what?
whatever the case is...................... i wish Don luck and great health!
Yeah mike, i'm sure your good wishes are going to prevent him from getting severe myocardial damage from severe hyperkalemia! ::)
Wise man does his research. IMO, instead of trying to discredit me and insult me, Bob could have opened his Nextel and chirped Don Long, J Manion, the promoter (it's on the IFBB page), or anyone else in the know, and got the info immediately. WAY faster than an internet nobody could. Hell, this is probably what FLEX Online did- read the boards, called Don, got the info, and wrote the story.
IMO, this kind of irrational, knee-jerk response is not the kind of reaction that someone in the position of Athlete's Rep should exhibit. Rational thought processes and the choice to use REASON, not emotion, when speaking, would be preferable. I hope he wouldn't jump to such conclusions during tough negotiations with IFBB brass.
Bob, I don't know why you have it in for me, but there is no reason to keep going at me. If I post something you disagree with, just find the correct infomation and post it. Don't say something like:which was obviously meant to embarass me and discredit everything I"ve ever said.
Let's just talk facts, and end the baseless personal attacks.
we all know that you must be against the PDI. Or else......The manion mafia machine will banish you.Monster libel!! Process Serving available in the Tri-State area!! EliteProcess.com
Forget about whether or not Don is competing, and whether or not that makes him a dumbass. The fact that he is wearing one of those fooking stupid wireless earpieces...during an interview...makes him a supreme dushbag.
WTF do people walk around wearing those things? Don't they realize how freaking stupid they look? I was on vacation recently, and at the beach where we were hanging out, there was some Dad with his kids. He had one of the earpieces in the who fooking time yapping away...."Hi Jm, how are those stocks doing? Me? Oh just relaxing on the beach speding quality time with the kids you know". He might as well not have even been there... moron ::)
Don't sweat it brah.I dont care if we wants to comit suicide though,I mean his sister is really poor.
He isn't natural by any means now- his arms look more vascular than Cutler's at the expo tables. This guy had the potential to be steady top 10 O. My guess, and this is only my opinion and thinking, is that maybe Don wants to go out on top. I do not know what the life expectancy of someone with zero renal function is, but perhaps he just wants to live fast (well, as fast as a Bber can be) and go out on top. If any of us were lifelong BBers, and we knew we had X amount of time to live, hell, we might throw caution to the wind and just do one last show, feel the applause and rush of competition one last time. but that's just one theory.
Or, maybe he'll compete without dropping water. More of a glorified guest posing. I doubt this is the case though.
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Special "RhinoBuster" Ed
Ed maybe you cna hire yourself to sue yourself, problem, you would still lose.Still waiting for some proof of that alleged NABBA win....a photo perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e....Bueller?
Jack(special ed owner, the rhino)London
Still waiting for some proof of that alleged NABBA win....a photo perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e....Bueller?
Or proof of that alleged 700lb bench press...a photo perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e...Bueller?
Or proof of your alleged 7-figure income...a W-2 perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e...Bueller?
Or proof that you actually own a home and don't live in your mom's basement....a deed perhaps...a witness....anyone...anyo ne..??
When you say you got your Pro Card, is that for being a Professional Liar? Because that's the only one you deserve, Wrinkle-Tits.
Special "Who Owns Who?" Ed
Um monster meltdown.......yeah, I got your proof. right hereYour reply speaks for itself. Case closed.
Jack(special ed metdown maker the rhino)London
What would happen if bodybuilders with messed up kidneys use dialysis before its too late? Could Flex still be competing? Just a question I've been curious about.
Proactive dialysis?
You are REALLY showing yourself to be nothing more than a meathead lately Bob.
STOP ARGUING WITH ROB. HE IS CLEARLY MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU.
Do you GET this?? >:(
Come on boys and girls.....everybody knows why chick insults and tries to dicredit 240. Because chick is not with the PDI. He is the puppet, and is told what to do and say. Chick, don't bother responding, we all know that you must be against the PDI. Or else......The manion mafia machine will banish you.Come on Jack do you REALLY believe that? 240 and chic have had their battles long before PDI. Don Long competing has nothing to do with the PDI, but nice job of integrating the PDI into all your responses. The 240 PR sessions appear to be sinking in.
Your reply speaks for itself. Case closed.
Come on Jack do you REALLY believe that? 240 and chic have had their battles long before PDI. Don Long competing has nothing to do with the PDI, but nice job of integrating the PDI into all your responses. The 240 PR sessions appear to be sinking in.
240 outscoopedusall.com
No, my pro status and SL500 speak for itself.
jack(special ed rides the bus)London
Yes, I do believe that. What appears to be sinking in is your thought that you are an expert.....Blue stars? For what, have you ever competed? Ever trained a champion? What makes you an "expert" other than being up the iffbb's ass?Holy shit Jack TRIPP'N What crawled up your ass today?
you, chick, kevin Horton, you all are puppets. Puppets. I don't hate you for that, but it is what it is. Hell, I even admit, it is the safe route. I like being the underdog, I can't lose.
Holy shit Jack TRIPP'N What crawled up your ass today?
Naaaa, just fuckin with ya. We bro's ...just stirrin the pot!SUED!
SUED!
jack(special ed rides the bus)LondonThat's the short bus, by the way.
...you can make extra money setting up merchant account if you were smart enough to think about it...
Former Negro,
Do you have any idea just how foolish you look making statements like that?
Details as to where he trains or at least with who he works with, and where, for his contest prep would add to the credibility.
I wish he could risk your life when competing
As far as competing is concerned, the IFBB can prevent him from competing but most likely they'll have some release forms for him to fill out to keep his family from filing suit if he dies
That's the short bus, by the way.
SE
Tre, coming from an Oreo like yourself I'm not insulted.
240, sorry about the attacks on your wife and kids. You know that's not my style and I'll deal with him later.
Chick stepped into a boobie trap.......... :-[
When in quick sand, the best thing to do is not move....
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Hey Vince, keep the anti-white comments to yourself.
Its not an anti-white comment...... ::)
Its not an anti-white comment...... ::)
Hey, he's got multiple personalities now, so any 'self-owning' going on is a tag-team effort
You owned yourself.
I don't understand how calling someone an "Oreo" is not a racist statement. I understand other members have made classless racist statements and I don't condone any of them, however, can you please explain to me how what you said to Tre was not meant to be interpreted as an insult. If you can I will be more than happy to apoligize for saying you said something anti-white.
He needs to find God. He's going to kill himself.
13. oreo
When a black guy is locked in a 69 with a white girl and a second black guy throws it in her pooper.
"Hey, your friend is pretty cute. Why don't we go back to my place and make an Oreo?"
Tom was 278, and Ronnie wasn't "calling him out" he was astonished that he could be that big at 5'9, and was busting his balls....
That being said, Tom was natural for that show, and was fighting some serious health problems...278 wasn't a badge of honor, it was a big waving red flag...his body was starting to hold so much water from the kidney failure, that he could have been in real trouble within hours...the contest prep was actually having a reverse effect.
He wisely bailed out, as we were literally pumping up in the back and ready to get in line. His breathing was getting shallower by the minute, he made the right move and got himself to the hospital for treatment.
To all the guys who think it's funny or cool to rip on Tom for his problems...Tom doesn't go on the boards anymore (hasn't for some time)...he's running a successful Property Management business, so quit wasting your time...he ain't reading it.
More importantly, I hope none of you take it as lightly when someone close to you is lying there in the hospital bed with tubes and wires running everywhere, and a doctor telling you it's "touch and go" as their wife is looking to you for some sort of re-assurance...I don't care if it's their fault, or by the grace of God.
Life is short, my friends...I just lost 2 friends within a 2 week period...one of them as close to me as my own brother. Lets all be grateful were alive and in good health to even be on these boards...not revel in someone else's misfortunes.
Tom *started* at 24 weeks out with gear...it became apparent immediately that this was a bad idea, and he HAD to go off...completely, for the duration of the prep...
What Tom chose to share with the masses, might just be different than the truth...i.e.- don't believe everything you read.
So which is it Chick? Was Tom natural, as you say in the first post (pulled from another thread on Tom Prince)?
Or was he using gear for the show, no matter how long?
Is "Tom *started* at 24 weeks out with gear" and not continuing the use qualifying for being natural these days?
Seems to me, that if you answer the the latter, it's like being "kind of pregnant."
You either are or you are not!!!
Fuckin' habitual liar. >:(
Hey Vince, didn't you agree with Chick and say that Don Long wasn't competing?
If I read your posts correctly you ridiculed 240 for making the claim.
What do you have to say about being wrong?
You realize of course that if you had kept your mouth shut at least in this instance you wouldn't have been shown to be a moron.
You owned yourself.
Chick hasn't yet figured out how to spin this one...
that Chick owning is bad but no as bad as when he said 240 was posting racist threads on bb.com
240 and I might not have the physique Bob does, but at least we have multiple university degrees and a high IQ to fall back on when we get old and grey.
Maybe the ifbb will bring in a Dialysis Class, it would be as big a joke as Bob winning the masters, Flex versus Prince versus Long, the posing round includes the dialsis machine and you have to pose hooked up, and the challenge round can be who dares take diuretics knowing your kidneys are fucked and you win by taking the most amount of lasix and living.
That last time he lost an argument, he came back with the BS racist claims the next day, and called me every name in the book. Then, once proven wrong, acted like it never happened. I would like to think that it won't happen this time, but ya never know.I remember this. Chick thought he tasted blood and the invective he used was brutal. When proven wrong (or 'not proven') he still was belligerent, let alone apologize for such an accusation. That's when I lost the little, if I had any at that point, respect for the Chickster. I even suggested to Rob that, despite being the 'injured' party he take the higher ground and see if he could offer Chick an olive branch. I feel kinda stupid for suggesting that now. :-\
I hear Reggie Bush and Vince Young are just dying to get a piece of you... when are you gonna start posting on the NFL boards again so the rookies can take a shot?
Monopoly dog.
IFBB is a monopoly.
Chic is their lapdog.
Chic = monopoly dog.
this one needs no introduction.
Finally, with no choice but to face up to 240, Bob disconnected his cable modem and is selling his computer on Craigslist.org
Why does FLEX always make bodybuilders and their stupidity seem inspirational? ???
First Chris Jalali's article and now this.
I like Shawn Perrine's writing and overall that article did seem balanced and made it clear that bodybuilding escalated Don's (alledged) genetic predisposition, but I think an appropriate title for the article would have been "Long on stupidity" lol.
Either way, I did get the sense that Shawn felt competitive bodybuilding was not good for Don at this point in his life and health so that's good.
dammit... my collage was almost done.
240 I'm disspointed in you, you didn't add anything in your collage to reflect the "peanut Gallery" comment. You must be losing your edge... :-[Good point MD: Where was the Mr. Peanut guy? I figure it's at least Peanut Gallery 4, Chickster 0.
I agree on Shawn's coverage of the ironage. His article in the most recent FLEX on Steve Michalik was excellent. His recent review of the 2005 Australian GP was also very balanced.
I think Shawn is perceptive and aware of the fact that he is working in and industry with very fragile egos. He probably just didn't want to step on Don's toes so he tries hard to put a positive spin on everything.
I say forget it though - no need to protect Don from his stupidity in this case.
Yes Bob is a good guy with an expansive high school education, third tier pro bodybuilding experience, and a D-list acting career. Brutal achievements.
Bob went to community college for a 2-year degree to join the police force. Then something happened suddenly which encouraged him to leave the force.
If I'm following the info correctly, his body rejected the donated kidney... he doesn't have it anymore and is living on dialysis.
If that's true, what you said doesn't apply.
Now, I don't know how dangerous it is or isn't for someone on dialysis to compete (maybe an MD on here can address this), but he can't damage his kidneys if he doesn't have any.
Someone should interview Don Long's sister and see what she has to think of this. I personally think Don Long's most recent decision to compete again with the donated kidney is probably the scummiest, most disgusting thing a pro bodybuilder has done in a long time.this story is the kind that geraldo rivera would go after. i'm sure that everyone on a transplant list would like to "talk" to this kidney trashing scumbag. ;D
Chick should apoligize, but, let us not lose sight of the fact that Don competing like this is like spitting in the face of his sister and everyone on the waiting list for a new kidney.
True. The topic of Chick's IQ has derailed the topic of Don Long's health and taken the heat of Don.
Admittedly though, when I see Bob at the Arnold Expo next year I probably won't say any of these things to his face, so why would I say them hiding behind a computer screen? It's not very tactful and it's what gives message boards a bad name.
That said, my main point is that Bob is fighting a losing battle against 240 here who is obviously more intelligent. Say what you will about Rob, he has an MBA and obviously a lot of brains. Bob may not be stupid, but it is stupid for him to keep trying to win fights against somebody as intelligent as Rob who has owned him more than once at this point.
Still waiting for some proof of that alleged NABBA win....a photo perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e....Bueller?
Or proof of that alleged 700lb bench press...a photo perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e...Bueller?
Or proof of your alleged 7-figure income...a W-2 perhaps...a witness...anyone...anyon e...Bueller?
Or proof that you actually own a home and don't live in your mom's basement....a deed perhaps...a witness....anyone...anyo ne..??
When you say you got your Pro Card, is that for being a Professional Liar? Because that's the only one you deserve, Wrinkle-Tits.
Special "Who Owns Who?" Ed
Apparently, Jack is just a puppet and will only respond when told what to respond with from his leader...I'm sure he can back up his claim of an NABBA victory.
Apparently, Jack is just a puppet and will only respond when told what to respond with from his leader...I'm sure he can back up his claim of an NABBA victory.
what incorrect claims would those be?
Apparently, Jack is just a puppet and will only respond when told what to respond with from his leader...I'm sure he can back up his claim of an NABBA victory.Wow. Way to disregard the whole thread and focus on a sidebar. This is what I critiqued you for before: Ignoring those issues where you caught 'were dead-to-rights.' Hey being wrong happens to everybody, the difference is that those people we admire most are the ones that can say 'Oops, you're right; I made a mistake.' You are not here on GB as a 'favour' to us, so stop with the attitude that we owe you respect - it has to be earned. We are all here because share an interest in bb (an area with spotty support at best); I assume you do too. If you drop the pretenses, I guarantee you you might find more similarities than differences with us, and maybe even gain some respect (albeit grudging ;D) from the 'peanut gallery'.
Maybe you guys need to read a little deeper into the post I wrote...I'm not agreeing with you, or changing my mind over my original post.
If you all want to believe that Don will be competing, great...all the power to you. If I were wrong, I would simply admit it. In THIS case...I'm not.
NO, he isn't planing a comeback...
Sounds like you just went from leasing to mortgaging that nice loft on Front Street (Front Street, of course, being a euphemism for a position in which you are "fronting", or attempting to sell a falsity to the masses).
You're now attempting to entrench your position while at the same time blurring your original statement,
This position has suddenly become, "I am protecting Don from himself. The IFBB won't LET him compete".
Also, why did you erase your post yesterday where you outright said that "saving the guys from themselves is the real competition for me"?
Did you regret making that statement?
If you have it, post it again for the world to see...I stand by my statement, Don will NOT be making a comeback.
Before you all start circle jerking yourselves off around a picture of 240...keep in mind a few things:
I'm privvy to information you arent...I'm not here to gain approval from the nameless, faceless cowards on the internet...I'm here to set the record straight and give insight to the true fans that are looking for it.
If you all want to believe 240 is right and I have been "owned", "Pwned",or any other juvenille saying you have...thats great.
I guess we'll see who knows what they're talking about when the AC Pro comes around won't we?
I leave you all with this...just because an athlete expresses HIS wishes, doesn't neccessarily mean those wishes are in the best interest of the athlete...saving these guys from themselves is the real competition for me..
Bob Cicherillo
IFBB Athletes Representative
I'm not going to argue semantics, fool...
Looks like you're not as smart as you think you are
Apparently, Jack is just a puppet and will only respond when told what to respond with from his leader...I'm sure he can back up his claim of an NABBA victory.
No, it's the pot calling the POT black...I've never said a bad word about you, and I come back to these boards after a few days off, and all I see are posts by you calling me a puppet and bad-mouthing me....why?
I've also never questioned your "qualification/ title of NABBA...as I said, I'm sure you have proof...for the record, I could care less whether your NABBA Mr. Universe, or 7th place at the Atlantic states...not my federation or my concern.
BTW, I don't need to try and intimidate you, were not in the same circles.
Why don't you tell me "how it is", Jack?
No, it's the pot calling the POT black...I've never said a bad word about you, and I come back to these boards after a few days off, and all I see are posts by you calling me a puppet and bad-mouthing me....why?
I've also never questioned your "qualification/ title of NABBA...as I said, I'm sure you have proof...for the record, I could care less whether your NABBA Mr. Universe, or 7th place at the Atlantic states...not my federation or my concern.
BTW, I don't need to try and intimidate you, were not in the same circles.
Why don't you tell me "how it is", Jack?
BTW, I don't need to try and intimidate you, were not in the same circles.
I made no sarcastic remark...as i said, I'm sure you can back it up. I've never known anyone to make up a title that could be easily verified.
...I don't get paid for being the athletes rep, nor from the IFBB directly. I have a few contracts, the biggest from BB.com of course. My AMI contract is good, but I in no way make a living from it, it's a publication contract. I also have outside ventures that pay off quite well.
I'm the only guy to ever try and innitiate a union for the Athletes, that would be AGAINST the grain, not with it...I backed up my shit for the good of the athletes...NO ONE else has ever put their career on the line as I did...you can ask your boss about that one, I'm sure he will back it up.
Calling me a "puppet" was unfounded and baseless...especially when you don't REALLY know what goes on within the IFBB, or the professional circles.
Also, when have I EVER bashed the PDI? not once...check your facts, Jack.
You have to wonder what Chic's peers think when they read this stuff.
I like Shawn Perrine's writing and overall that article did seem balanced and made it clear that bodybuilding escalated Don's (alledged) genetic predisposition, but I think an appropriate title for the article would have been "Long on stupidity" lol.
First off...amazing that few of you can actually READ....NO ONE said that DON is making a comeback and competing.
240 started a thread, and you all jumped to your own conclusions....as usual.
Don's Kidney transplant didn't take as of 2 years ago due to rejection...he's been back on dialysis since.
NO, he isn't planing a comeback...
240 this is what Chick actually said. There's nothing in his post that says that Don Long wasn't competing. It says he isn't planning a comeback.
Chick is right. He never said Don wasn't competing and this proves it
Rhino is awesome, as his wit is tantamount to his physique.
I'm not going to get into this "he said, she said" bullshit.
I have talked to Don Long, and Jim Manion, and all the people that have a position on the situation...
I know Don's mindset when it comes to wanting to compete one more time...He in no way, shape, or form wants to "make a comeback": in the sense...just wanted to get back on stage ONE more time.
That being said...both I and Jim Manion would like nothing more than to see Don finishing business as he would have preferred, before being forced out due to his kidney problems.
Unfortunately, I as the athletes rep, can only go to bat for Don so much. Jim Manion as well, can only give his input and recommendation to the IFBB...ultimately, it's in the hands of the legal dept.
As a friend of Don's, I would love to see him back on stage...he is as healthy as he can be...problem is, no matter what, he would be in uncharted waters when it comes to being on stage again. As his friend...I say yes, as the Athlete rep...I wish he would re-consider. Do I believe IFBB Legal will allow it...no. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose should the odds allow a different ending other than a happy one.
I also believe they will say no, due to the fact that it would set a precedent to be followed by athletes in similar situations, who may want to compete, etc.. Legal departments do not consider feelings, or have empathy to a persons situation, etc.They make decisions based on the ramifications they could cause due to their negligence, and/or allowing an action to take place.
Don knows me very well, and also knows I have his best interests at heart. If they do say no, there are other measures we can take to bring Don back into the spotlight, and pursue his career as a professional bodybuilder...we discussed a few of those and I will be working on a few alternatives on Don's behalf.
I hope this brings closure to this ridiculous thread. I'll update those concerned as information becomes available.
I'm not going to get into this "he said, she said" bullshit.
I have talked to Don Long, and Jim Manion, and all the people that have a position on the situation...
I know Don's mindset when it comes to wanting to compete one more time...He in no way, shape, or form wants to "make a comeback": in the sense...just wanted to get back on stage ONE more time.
That being said...both I and Jim Manion would like nothing more than to see Don finishing business as he would have preferred, before being forced out due to his kidney problems.
Unfortunately, I as the athletes rep, can only go to bat for Don so much. Jim Manion as well, can only give his input and recommendation to the IFBB...ultimately, it's in the hands of the legal dept.
As a friend of Don's, I would love to see him back on stage...he is as healthy as he can be...problem is, no matter what, he would be in uncharted waters when it comes to being on stage again. As his friend...I say yes, as the Athlete rep...I wish he would re-consider. Do I believe IFBB Legal will allow it...no. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose should the odds allow a different ending other than a happy one.
I also believe they will say no, due to the fact that it would set a precedent to be followed by athletes in similar situations, who may want to compete, etc.. Legal departments do not consider feelings, or have empathy to a persons situation, etc.They make decisions based on the ramifications they could cause due to their negligence, and/or allowing an action to take place.
Don knows me very well, and also knows I have his best interests at heart. If they do say no, there are other measures we can take to bring Don back into the spotlight, and pursue his career as a professional bodybuilder...we discussed a few of those and I will be working on a few alternatives on Don's behalf.
I hope this brings closure to this ridiculous thread. I'll update those concerned as information becomes available.
Do I believe IFBB Legal will allow it...no.
thanks for the info
240 please die and make us happy
I think this calls for........
REVERSE PWNING ON 240!!!!!!!!!
After Don competes in the AC Pro, Bob will have a few more "reasons why I wasn't wrong" including but not limited to:
1. I never said Don wasn't going to compete; I said he wouldn't be allowed to compete.
2. I never said Don wasn't going to compete; I said he wasn't planning to compete.
3. I don't consider placing 12th to be competitive; therefore he did not actually "compete".
4. Quoting Bill Clinton, it depends on what your definition of "was" is.
5. I haven't actually logged on to getbig in years...someone else has been using my account
Special "Stuck on the 405" Ed
Can't improve on this. Chick's demonstrations of hair-splitting in a mule-like refusal to acknowledge an obvious mistake have been worthy of a Bush administration official.
Maybe he can have 240 declared an "enemy combatant" and held without trial under torture in Guantanamo.
Can't improve on this. Chick's demonstrations of hair-splitting in a mule-like refusal to acknowledge an obvious mistake have been worthy of a Bush administration official.
Maybe he can have 240 declared an "enemy combatant" and held without trial under torture in Guantanamo.
(Besides the fact that 240 prolly doesn't have any assets to make a lawyer want to take the case ;D)
After Don competes in the AC Pro, Bob will have a few more "reasons why I wasn't wrong" including but not limited to:
1. I never said Don wasn't going to compete; I said he wouldn't be allowed to compete.
2. I never said Don wasn't going to compete; I said he wasn't planning to compete.
3. I don't consider placing 12th to be competitive; therefore he did not actually "compete".
4. Quoting Bill Clinton, it depends on what your definition of "was" is.
5. I haven't actually logged on to getbig in years...someone else has been using my account
Special "Stuck on the 405" Ed
Vince, you're a sheep, and a dumb one at that.
the four stooges show up to bash 240 and shout 'owned' in 40 point font. gee, I'm sure canyoufeel and sgt. d are qualified to make rational, unbiased judgments.
Unfortunately, hundreds of members, both industry and fans, witnessed the truth. history shows Vince to be a mentally unstable douche. bob is a liar and he treats people like they're beneath him. the other anonymous douchebags are just that.
Well, how about that 240. Me and Bob were correct all along as we've been stating all along.... ::)
Me and Bob....Me and Bob....Me and Bob....Me and Bob....Me and Bob.....You are Chicks ballwasher!
It's ok to like the guy, admire him if you must, but dont you think you are taking it to a whole different level?
I dont have a problem with the guy or anything...I like that he has the balls to post and doesnt worry about pissing some fans off (though i didnt agree with the peanut gallery comment, it was humerous)....I wouldnt even agree with some peoples comments that he is a bad bodybuilder....He obviously works hard and has accomplished more in the sport than most on gb ever will....but that doesnt mean that you have to stroke him over and over and over again. Its becoming rather pathetic actually. oh yeah, when you respond, please come with something better than "i will kick your ass if i ever see you" ....its about the only thing you can say that would make you look even more ridiculous.
Vince, you're a sheep, and a dumb one at that.
the four stooges show up to bash 240 and shout 'owned' in 40 point font. gee, I'm sure canyoufeel and sgt. d are qualified to make rational, unbiased judgments.
Unfortunately, hundreds of members, both industry and fans, witnessed the truth. history shows Vince to be a mentally unstable douche. bob is a liar and he treats people like they're beneath him. the other anonymous douchebags are just that.
you are trying to take down the kings of the sport
while you guys a 3rd tiered nerds, they actually have something to live for..
Your enthusiasm is admirable. Your ability to stand up for pompous, lying, drug-abusing phonies shooting holes in their organs while acting like pricks all the time and talking to people like they're crap, over us "3rd tier nerds" who do nothing but follow the law and have a laugh, is awesome.
Those kings of the sport are lucky to have jesters like you.
you sure as hell are having a great time at www.thesaurus.com ....
if you really dislike these athletes then why continue to post?? The reason they are here to bring enjoyment and bring the inside scoop towards fans of the IFBB, not bimbos like you... if you don't like them or what they do, then don't reply.
1) I do not use that website for words. I sometimes use obscure words to better convey my thoughts. but I can keep it real and dumb it down so simp-asses like yourself can keep up with the conversation.
2) I like the sport and I like the athletes. Sure, there are 4-5 that are idiots, just like there are idiots everywhere. Many BBers are a little bit crazy, but in a good way.
3) How am *I* the bimbo, when you had the cocklessness to actually refer to BOB as one of the "kings of the sport"?
Do you seriously believe that people here need to use a website to find words like 'convey' and 'obscure'?
I don't believe the word 'cocklessness' was there. I found it, in your eyes.
...The reason they are here to bring enjoyment and bring the inside scoop towards fans of the IFBB...That's a laugh...unless your definition of "inside scoop" is outrageous lies, such as:
special ed, your sure are special lmao. where do you get all this scoop from your nerd god 240. lmao geeks.
special ed, your sure are special lmao. where do you get all this scoop from your nerd god 240. lmao geeks.MONSTER SYCOPHANT!
That's a laugh...unless your definition of "inside scoop" is outrageous lies, such as:
Lie#1: Multi-million dollar endorsement deals.
Reality: $50,000 a year before taxes and loans from girlfriends plus additional $20,000 in gay-for-pay work.
Lie #2. "Near-Misses" for major movie roles.
Reality: "Hollywood Agent" won't even return your calls.
Lie#3: Huge retirement accounts and early retirement.
Reality: Penniless and looking to make a "comeback".
Lie #4. Owning MTV-Crib-like homes.
Reality: Renting IKEA-furnished apartments "near the beach".
Lie#5: Spanking new Hummers and Mercedes.
Reality: Leased or loaned vehicles pimped out with $30,000 in stereo, speaker, and rim upgrades.
Lie#6: Hugely profitable "side businesses".
Reality: Selling drugs to friends, family, and gymrats.
Lie#7. Active social lives filled with charitable donations and volunteer work.
Reality: Every minute not spent in the gym is spent "reading what those getbig losers are saying about me"
Lie#8: Writing magazine articles revealing training, diet, and supplement "secrets"
Reality: Approving ghost-written articles, laughing, and finding new injection spots.
Lie#9: Claiming drugs are only 2-3% of the picture.
Reality: Drugs are 97-98% of the picture.
Lie#10: Claiming to be "friends" with writers, promoters, supplement company owners, judges, and fellow competitors.
Reality: Everyone in the industry is a "taker" or "user" looking only to fatten either their wallet or ego at your expense.
The only "Inside Scoop" you'll ever get from Chick is the one he'll serve you at Cold Stone Creamery when his luck runs out.
Special "Reality Bites" Ed
I'm not stroking his balls, I just pointed out that we were both right and 240 while getting good info, doesn't understand the world of bodybuilding and its rules because he's not a bodybuilder.
To get to 240 his enemies will have to get past his family . Remember this famous quote by 240 from a deleted thread :
I would have to disagree. I did the smart and grownup thing by backing up. Sure I could still be pushing it... and it could lead to putting a hole in King's FL buddies and dealing with losing my gun for a year and possibly my freedom, or putting money into a pointless court case, should someone from that camp make it go there.
Anytime I want I can make up a gif or website or insult to score points and prolong the situation, but I don't care that much. I got another pro to melt, period. I decided to apologize about saying things about his wife, as now that I"m married I realize that even if they are public figures, albeit minor ones, they do get upset when someone insults their mate. So I'm not going to do that anymore.
Do I think King is a douchebag? Sure! Is he a shitty Bber? Of course! Would I say it to his face? Absolutely. if a camera was put in my face, they'd get a middle finger, mace, then possibly a firearm should the situation warrant it. I'm no pussy. I'd kick the shit out of half the kids here, and I'd drop 90% of the rest with two well placed rounds should it come to that. (My dad has killed a man, my brother crippled a man, my other brother threw a man off a bridge and is currently in prison... hesitation doesn't come easily in this blood, and should king or any of his groupees show up, there will be no words spoken.)[/size]
latrine.
What the FCUK is this shit?
YIP
Zack
What the FCUK is this shit?
YIP
Zack
That's a laugh...unless your definition of "inside scoop" is outrageous lies, such as:
Lie#1: Multi-million dollar endorsement deals.
Reality: $50,000 a year before taxes and loans from girlfriends plus additional $20,000 in gay-for-pay work.
Lie #2. "Near-Misses" for major movie roles.
Reality: "Hollywood Agent" won't even return your calls.
Lie#3: Huge retirement accounts and early retirement.
Reality: Penniless and looking to make a "comeback".
Lie #4. Owning MTV-Crib-like homes.
Reality: Renting IKEA-furnished apartments "near the beach".
Lie#5: Spanking new Hummers and Mercedes.
Reality: Leased or loaned vehicles pimped out with $30,000 in stereo, speaker, and rim upgrades.
Lie#6: Hugely profitable "side businesses".
Reality: Selling drugs to friends, family, and gymrats.
Lie#7. Active social lives filled with charitable donations and volunteer work.
Reality: Every minute not spent in the gym is spent "reading what those getbig losers are saying about me"
Lie#8: Writing magazine articles revealing training, diet, and supplement "secrets"
Reality: Approving ghost-written articles, laughing, and finding new injection spots.
Lie#9: Claiming drugs are only 2-3% of the picture.
Reality: Drugs are 97-98% of the picture.
Lie#10: Claiming to be "friends" with writers, promoters, supplement company owners, judges, and fellow competitors.
Reality: Everyone in the industry is a "taker" or "user" looking only to fatten either their wallet or ego at your expense.
The only "Inside Scoop" you'll ever get from Chick is the one he'll serve you at Cold Stone Creamery when his luck runs out.
Special "Reality Bites" Ed
And you're the same chubby doofus that went to a bodybuilding expo to meet Jay Cutler while wearing a "Shut The f**k Up and Train" t-shirt and eyeliner.
By the way, how's that whole "Shut The f**k Up and Train" thing going for you?
Have you found the perfect shade of eyeliner yet?
What the FCUK is this shit?
YIP
Zack
grundy was runner up twice in nabba worlds maybe he knows Jack and can vouch for him, i cant find anything maybe the nabba worlds were held in the bermuda triangle one year and the records disappeared. Asked our president he said apaet from Victor Terra and Gary Guinn he cant remeber too many yanks in nabba, they usually all stay NPC.
What the FCUK is this shit?No shit, he said it... 240 has just received the title of Capo Crimini over the Florida Mafia... :-\
YIP
Zack
240 and his buddies its time to get your heads out of your asses and realize this is a bodybuilding forum and you are trying to take down the kings of the sport... while you guys a 3rd tiered nerds, they actually have something to live for..
240 and his buddies its time to get your heads out of your asses and realize this is a bodybuilding forum and you are trying to take down the kings of the sport... while you guys a 3rd tiered nerds, they actually have something to live for..
240 and his buddies its time to get your heads out of your asses and realize this is a bodybuilding forum and you are trying to take down the kings of the sport... while you guys a 3rd tiered nerds, they actually have something to live for..
Since when is "3rd-tier Bob" a "king of the sport"? ::)
um, since he got the honorary pro win?
remember the camera work? it was amateur hour. The final posedown involved a slow mo full-body fan of Bob flexing and completely ignored the other guys onstage...
To get to 240 his enemies will have to get past his family . Remember this famous quote by 240 from a deleted thread :
I would have to disagree. I did the smart and grownup thing by backing up. Sure I could still be pushing it... and it could lead to putting a hole in King's FL buddies and dealing with losing my gun for a year and possibly my freedom, or putting money into a pointless court case, should someone from that camp make it go there.
Anytime I want I can make up a gif or website or insult to score points and prolong the situation, but I don't care that much. I got another pro to melt, period. I decided to apologize about saying things about his wife, as now that I"m married I realize that even if they are public figures, albeit minor ones, they do get upset when someone insults their mate. So I'm not going to do that anymore.
Do I think King is a douchebag? Sure! Is he a shitty Bber? Of course! Would I say it to his face? Absolutely. if a camera was put in my face, they'd get a middle finger, mace, then possibly a firearm should the situation warrant it. I'm no pussy. I'd kick the shit out of half the kids here, and I'd drop 90% of the rest with two well placed rounds should it come to that. (My dad has killed a man, my brother crippled a man, my other brother threw a man off a bridge and is currently in prison... hesitation doesn't come easily in this blood, and should king or any of his groupees show up, there will be no words spoken.)
WTF? I bet that is the same guy wearing color coordinated Tap Out gear at my gym.
240 has come a long way since those days and actually makes some posts that don't allude to life or death scenarios or over the top internet machismo... even he has admitted his shame of his toolish ways back then.
RIP the old 240 :(
RIP the old 240 :(
Shut up Melvin.
Amazing how Kamali was threatening to sue him at the time and then he ends up designing his GBN site.
Same with me. Me and him were at each other's throats and now he's done two logos for me
Amazing how Kamali was threatening to sue him at the time and then he ends up designing his GBN site.
Same with me. Me and him were at each other's throats and now he's done two logos for me
240 has come a long way since those days and actually makes some posts that don't allude to life or death scenarios or over the top internet machismo... even he has admitted his shame of his toolish ways back then.