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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on August 11, 2006, 12:18:00 AM
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At least one pro and at least one regular member have used the threat of lawsuits to stop insults upon them on getbig.
Does talk like this hurt the fun and creativity that used to exist here?
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I've been threatened to be sued by a certain "pro" through PM. I won't name names since this "animal" claims I am hurting his chances of guest posing and sponsorships. ::)
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Who Chris Cook.
Who's interested in seeing a fatty-boombah guest posing?
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No not Chris. Chris is always cool with me.
If you listen to the legal episode on muscleradio.com (http://muscleradio.com) rick collins and larry pepe talk about the topic, both are lawyers.
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I almost wonder if perhaps it's time to swing things back a bit to the anonymous posting.
For a while, there was some serious magic with posts here. Dunno if you were here for the start of the animated gifs and fake webpages, but that stuff was terrific. Like gordiano's funny stuff, only real, believable pranks.
I wouldn't do that today, because offended pros would be on the phone with their lawyers, crying foul, for obvious creative license. And for some regular members to use that, it's just a self-owning of mega-proportions. Anytime a person CHOOSES to engage in the banter/arguments, then uses lawsuit threats when they don't look good, it's pathetic.
Sad, really. Maybe one of our legal-wise people culd definitively explain what can get you into hot water, and what can't. Would be nice to post fun stuff again without having people take the bitch route.
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I've been threatened to be sued by a certain "pro" through PM. I won't name names since this "animal" claims I am hurting his chances of guest posing and sponsorships. ::)
I no longer support Jack London and will remain forever unsupportive due to the fact that he can be so much of an asshole to do that. If he continues to attack Getbig's creativity and well-known reputation then he doesn't belong on this forum.
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I almost wonder if perhaps it's time to swing things back a bit to the anonymous posting.
For a while, there was some serious magic with posts here. Dunno if you were here for the start of the animated gifs and fake webpages, but that stuff was terrific. Like gordiano's funny stuff, only real, believable pranks.
I wouldn't do that today, because offended pros would be on the phone with their lawyers, crying foul, for obvious creative license. And for some regular members to use that, it's just a self-owning of mega-proportions. Anytime a person CHOOSES to engage in the banter/arguments, then uses lawsuit threats when they don't look good, it's pathetic.
Sad, really. Maybe one of our legal-wise people culd definitively explain what can get you into hot water, and what can't. Would be nice to post fun stuff again without having people take the bitch route.
There are a number of creative people on this board. I was here with your start 240, just didn't post much back then. Some of your stuff was funny, some way over the line but creative I will give you that.
The "sued" route is a load of crap. If something bothers you, pm them and ask them to stop, if they keep on, report to Ron.
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If you listen to the legal episode on muscleradio.com (http://muscleradio.com) rick collins and larry pepe talk about the topic, both are lawyers.
I listened and it was a good episode. I just meant, if we had clear lines drawn, a legal disclaimer that "If you choose to involve yourself in arguments, you give up your right to sue, etc".
I mean seriously, I don't even read half the gossip board anymore because I know I'll want to respond to someone, and i've gotten PMs from people saying "If you make fun of me, I'll sue you". It's a complete bogus bitch move, but it's a headache I don't need. Kills the fun here.
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I'd respond but due to the hostile nature of a savage beast, I'd be sued.
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I almost wonder if perhaps it's time to swing things back a bit to the anonymous posting.
For a while, there was some serious magic with posts here. Dunno if you were here for the start of the animated gifs and fake webpages, but that stuff was terrific. Like gordiano's funny stuff, only real, believable pranks.
I wouldn't do that today, because offended pros would be on the phone with their lawyers, crying foul, for obvious creative license. And for some regular members to use that, it's just a self-owning of mega-proportions. Anytime a person CHOOSES to engage in the banter/arguments, then uses lawsuit threats when they don't look good, it's pathetic.
Sad, really. Maybe one of our legal-wise people culd definitively explain what can get you into hot water, and what can't. Would be nice to post fun stuff again without having people take the bitch route.
..."fun stuff"....by that you MUST mean your enthusiastic attacks on easy bodybuilding targets and their wives?
...204, you don't seem to recall that many here remember your old antics. You're trying to revitalize your old games? You hacked on MANY, and now you seem to reconsider a policy which, indirectly, your own attacks helped bring about.
As to your questions, the lack of guests is a bonus. No more one hit wonders posting complete garbage!
The only person here scared of lawsuits is you, and it worked VERY well. You haven't said boo since Kamali piped up and you got (understandably so) frightened that your wallet and liberty could be compromised. And that's a GREAT thing for getbig! We now have the same entertainment we had previous to your invasion of this board...without your daily harps on anything you could get your hands on.
Hey, most of us here can post what the hell we want. If it's truly offensive, it's removed. No big deal. Posting attacks and insults of the highest order to the very athletes this board EXISTS because of is NOT what getbig is about....that's just dickheads getting kicks out of pissing off successful people behind the veil of the internet.
YOU decided to be so high profile, posting your real name and such....and that's how Kamali knew who to name for his lawsuit threats! You're a smart guy, I'm sure you can find a way to be your old asshole self here and not get caught. But I kinda think you're much more tolerable in your present form...to go back to your meltdown self would be a step backwards, in all ways.
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At least one pro and at least one regular member have used the threat of lawsuits to stop insults upon them on getbig.
Does talk like this hurt the fun and creativity that used to exist here?
It's not the threats it's a lack of new material.
The shots of Vince by the pool have been used in more threads than the word "the".
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it's not just me, bic. there's been a lot of threats to other members too. For a pro Bber to sue someone who insults his physique... lol... come on. for a member who posts his pics and starts stuff regularly to sue another member who makes fun of him, come on. Starts to get boring. garraeth posted the numbers earlier, attendance here is down. I just wondered if maybe there was a connection.
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I listened and it was a good episode. I just meant, if we had clear lines drawn, a legal disclaimer that "If you choose to involve yourself in arguments, you give up your right to sue, etc".
I mean seriously, I don't even read half the gossip board anymore because I know I'll want to respond to someone, and i've gotten PMs from people saying "If you make fun of me, I'll sue you". It's a complete bogus bitch move, but it's a headache I don't need. Kills the fun here.
People who post here should understand that this is not the real world and things are said here that would never be said in a face to face situationn. I've had a threat from someone not because I said anything about him personally but because I've questioned the organisation he's joined. That's clearly absurd. Due to the fact I'm in the pit at most shows, I made it quite clear that he's more than welcome to vent his anger to me in person.
I do believe that what happens here should stay here. It should not include threats to peoples families or emplyers.
The line between poking fun out of someone and it being seen as libel grows thinner by the day, You don't even have to name a person for a libel action
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/?t=article&l=cole_sues_over_tabloid_gay_orgy_stories
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That's why I think maybe there should be something written into the membership agreement which states that.
I am not going to speak on it, but I have caught a whiff of other actions (others came to me since I was the target for king) and i tell ya, it is just lame, and it is happening more and more. If you criticize someone's work, they PM you and tell you to delete it or they'll sue you lol. If it is posted here to push sales or get props, you can't bitch if you get bad feedback!
Hell, kev, right now, you are avoiding posting the name of whoever it was that threatened you. I mean, you seriously can't make a joke about someone because they'll "draw up papers". For someone to come here and enjoy the props but talk about lawsuits when probs become disses...
I dunno. I hope the trend dies or they find a way to prevent this. I see this being the death knell for entertaining discussion.
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actually most of the animated stuff wasnt very funny, maybe for you who was part of making it.
i dont miss it, and neither does most of the people on here im sure.
hope this helps.
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Free speech or not, much of what is posted on this discussion board is pitifully undistinguished. Threats of lawsuits (a la Lou Ferrigno) are just an attempt to intimidate others due to the wild west atmosphere maintained here.
I have taken several breaks from this board lately but I still come back because there are some interesting things to read & contribute, despite the trash. & sometimes you have to go through trashy threads to get to the good stuff.
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There actually isn't that much creativity to start with here.
If there was then much of what you put out 240 would have been laughed off as inane attempts at said creativity.
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Hell, kev, right now, you are avoiding posting the name of whoever it was that threatened you. I mean, you seriously can't make a joke about someone because they'll "draw up papers". For someone to come here and enjoy the props but talk about lawsuits when probs become disses...
I dunno. I hope the trend dies or they find a way to prevent this. I see this being the death knell for entertaining discussion.
The problem with any board is that most peole do not know the difference between poking fun out of something and libel. Saying someone has "no legs" when they clearly have two, would not be seen as libel because it's said in the context of the sport. No matter how much "Mr No Legs" complains or bitches he'll get nothing from a court action. However, if you said someone was a conviceted paedophile, that's a different story.
A keyboard gangster making threats just because they can't arrange a few words to go back at someone who is making fun of them is a pathetic loser, not only on stage but in life. Beware the person who walks up and hits you with no warning, not the one who threatens from afar in the hope you'll cower down.
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Its one thing saying someone has shit legs, or superimposing someones head on a tramp [like that hilarious pic of Rhino], but it is quite another to repeatadly accuse someone of beating up women. 240, Kegdrainer and all the other Bob haters have used to tactic to try and get under his skin - but to Bobs credit it hasn't worked. Shit like that has to stop, it ruins the 'fun' atmosphere of the board.
Getbig is renowned for the 'vicious' ownings and 'brutal' put downs - but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.
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Its one thing saying someone has shit legs, or superimposing someones head on a tramp [like that hilarious pic of Rhino], but it is quite another to repeatadly accuse someone of beating up women. 240, Kegdrainer and all the other Bob haters have used to tactic to try and get under his skin - but to Bobs credit it hasn't worked. Shit like that has to stop, it ruins the 'fun' atmosphere of the board.
Getbig is renowned for the 'vicious' ownings and 'brutal' put downs - but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.
I agree 100%
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I've been threatened to be sued by a certain "pro" through PM. I won't name names since this "animal" claims I am hurting his chances of guest posing and sponsorships. ::)
What kind of stuff have you posted about J*ck L*nd*n that mad him PM you?
No need to go into detail, just outline the general stuff.
YIP
Zack
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Its one thing saying someone has shit legs, or superimposing someones head on a tramp [like that hilarious pic of Rhino], but it is quite another to repeatadly accuse someone of beating up women. 240, Kegdrainer and all the other Bob haters have used to tactic to try and get under his skin - but to Bobs credit it hasn't worked. Shit like that has to stop, it ruins the 'fun' atmosphere of the board.
Getbig is renowned for the 'vicious' ownings and 'brutal' put downs - but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.
agreed. Calling someone a woman beater is not funny. Unless it is true, which to my knowledge has NOT been proven.
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I wouldn't do that today, because offended pros would be on the phone with their lawyers, crying foul, for obvious creative license.
Sad, really. Maybe one of our legal-wise people culd definitively explain what can get you into hot water, and what can't. Would be nice to post fun stuff again without having people take the bitch route.
Fucck the "legal crap'... just do what I do: sign up a gimmick account with a free email addy, find an idiot neighbor who has 802.11 wireless and leaves it unsecured, and use that to get online. Even if you do say something that's over the line (and most things these guys are bitching about AREN'T over the line from a legal perspective, despite what they think they know), and they can find a lawyer dumb enough to take a case against some kid with few or no assets, and they go to court to get a subpoena to get Ron to cough up the IP, and they go to court to get the ISP to cough up the name of the subscriber, it'll just trace back to your dumbfounded neighbor from 3 doors down who's never heard of "getbig.com".
It's an empty threat. Post what you want.
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I've been threatened to be sued by a certain "pro" through PM. I won't name names since this "animal" claims I am hurting his chances of guest posing and sponsorships. ::)
how is that. Free speech anyone?
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I almost wonder if perhaps it's time to swing things back a bit to the anonymous posting.
For a while, there was some serious magic with posts here. Dunno if you were here for the start of the animated gifs and fake webpages, but that stuff was terrific. Like gordiano's funny stuff, only real, believable pranks.
I wouldn't do that today, because offended pros would be on the phone with their lawyers, crying foul, for obvious creative license. And for some regular members to use that, it's just a self-owning of mega-proportions. Anytime a person CHOOSES to engage in the banter/arguments, then uses lawsuit threats when they don't look good, it's pathetic.
Sad, really. Maybe one of our legal-wise people culd definitively explain what can get you into hot water, and what can't. Would be nice to post fun stuff again without having people take the bitch route.
I believe it's a sign of how influential Getbig is. If people are getting so offended and threatening to sue
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Who started this sue nonsense, was the first a$$ to post he was getting a lawyer? I'm curious. For example Kamali is still pop without even doing the O in yrs. BTW...most of the people at the expos and so forth dont even visit this board. How in the hell is it going to hinder an individual's ability to earn a dollar?
What's not good is putting someone's personal info on here? That's on 240!1
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how is that. Free speech anyone?
As much of a douche as Lift is, I've never heard him say anything about Jack that would be actionable in court. These guys seem to think you can successfully sue anyone who says anything negative about you, and it just ain't so.
Not to mention, even if you win, your legal bills will exceed any collectable judgement with most of these guys. I doubt Lift is any different.
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This I've got to see. The headline reads. Pro Bodybuilder sues internet troll for making a joke about the shape of his legs. That would about sum it up. What court, nevermind lawyer would even bother to open his brief case for something like this. It's all empty threats and if you fall for them, you're the fool. Relay think about how ridiculous it would be. Can't wait.
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240 brings up an excellent observation here. With that King in NJ being the pioneer in threatning lawsuits and litigation for having his poor feelings hurt based on silly comments on a public open internet forum...this has a direct effect on 'creativity' and entertainment value that is what makes/made getbig.com so great and wildly popular.
Restrictions and laws kill creative thought and ideas. If that King in NJ succeeds...it will open the floodgates for others to follow.
I. The BlockHead has personally been told I will be summoned to court and face a judge by sgtd for all my 'comments and observations' made directly or indirectly towards him. Because I know what it is like to face litigation and court dates and judges...it is no walk in the park and it will hurt your future and record. Now I am a little bit apprehensive about laying into sgtd or putting on savage OWNINGS on him because I know anything is possible.
We already clearly established the new ailment known as 'Post Traumatic OWNING Disorder' and it appears the result of brutal ownings given to 'sensitive' people lead to lawyers being contact and legal consequences being issued.
Perhaps we must be more creative and cover all angles when an owning is given. For example...I like to say 'That King in NJ.' You all know who I'm talking about but in the court of law...it isnt specific and it couldnt hold water.
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240 brings up an excellent observation here. With that King in NJ being the pioneer in threatning lawsuits and litigation for having his poor feelings hurt based on silly comments on a public open internet forum...this has a direct effect on 'creativity' and entertainment value that is what makes/made getbig.com so great and wildly popular.
Restrictions and laws kill creative thought and ideas. If that King in NJ succeeds...it will open the floodgates for others to follow.
I. The BlockHead has personally been told I will be summoned to court and face a judge by sgtd for all my 'comments and observations' made directly or indirectly towards him. Because I know what it is like to face litigation and court dates and judges...it is no walk in the park and it will hurt your future and record. Now I am a little bit apprehensive about laying into sgtd or putting on savage OWNINGS on him because I know anything is possible.
We already clearly established the new ailment known as 'Post Traumatic OWNING Disorder' and it appears the result of brutal ownings given to 'sensitive' people lead to lawyers being contact and legal consequences being issued.
Perhaps we must be more creative and cover all angles when an owning is given. For example...I like to say 'That King in NJ.' You all know who I'm talking about but in the court of law...it isnt specific and it couldnt hold water.
Its funny that I say nothing about you, and you continue to use my name in your font all the time. Why is that?
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I'm illustrating the point 240 ismaking here you stupid fkn...uh...you know. Did you or did you NOT threaten seeing me in court and facing a judge for my 'written observations' that make your feeling hurt. yes or No. YOU DID! That is the whole point of this thread here...
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240 brings up an excellent observation here. With that King in NJ being the pioneer in threatning lawsuits and litigation for having his poor feelings hurt based on silly comments on a public open internet forum...this has a direct effect on 'creativity' and entertainment value that is what makes/made getbig.com so great and wildly popular.
Restrictions and laws kill creative thought and ideas. If that King in NJ succeeds...it will open the floodgates for others to follow.
I. The BlockHead has personally been told I will be summoned to court and face a judge by sgtd for all my 'comments and observations' made directly or indirectly towards him. Because I know what it is like to face litigation and court dates and judges...it is no walk in the park and it will hurt your future and record. Now I am a little bit apprehensive about laying into sgtd or putting on savage OWNINGS on him because I know anything is possible.
We already clearly established the new ailment known as 'Post Traumatic OWNING Disorder' and it appears the result of brutal ownings given to 'sensitive' people lead to lawyers being contact and legal consequences being issued.
Perhaps we must be more creative and cover all angles when an owning is given. For example...I like to say 'That King in NJ.' You all know who I'm talking about but in the court of law...it isnt specific and it couldnt hold water.
lol.....well said. That King in NJ has been OWN in almost every show he enters. The only way to get his fustrations out of his Ass is to sue getbig...ha.hha ;D
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Perhaps we must be more creative and cover all angles when an owning is given. For example...I like to say 'That King in NJ.' You all know who I'm talking about but in the court of law...it isnt specific and it couldnt hold water.
You can be even more cryptic than that... sorta like 240 using a "stop domestic violence" ribbon as an avatar. Everyone knows exactly what and who he's talking about, but he hasn't said or done anything that would be even close to actionable in court.
Just use some creativity. ;)
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I'm illustrating the point 240 ismaking here you stupid fkn...uh...you know. Did you or did you NOT threaten seeing me in court and facing a judge for my 'written observations' that make your feeling hurt. yes or No. YOU DID! That is the whole point of this thread here...
Lol I said Im not going to say anything more violent on here if so happens(you end up in a burning car, or at the bottom of the river) they couldnt suspect that I did it. You get what im saying ;D
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You can be even more cryptic than that... sorta like 240 using a "stop domestic violence" ribbon as an avatar. Everyone knows exactly what and who he's talking about, but he hasn't said or done anything that would be even close to actionable in court.
Just use some creativity. ;)
Why does 240 take pictures with guns and ammo?
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Why would a pro threaten a member with a lawsuit ?
Because they have extremely fragile little egos along with the maturity of a 12-year-old?
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Why does 240 take pictures with guns and ammo?
Because he's a redneck? ???
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I live in NJ and Im actually offended that you call him that "king"....
We have no King in NJ.....but we did have a queen... :'(
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The standard for winning a defamation suit is very high if the person being defamed is a public figure. Most pro bodybuilders would be considered public figures. First amendment rights trump defamation protections, so opinion is protected. Also, the victim must be able to prove actual damages, which is more than just hurt feelings. The defamatory statement must be one that would cause a reasonable person to believe it. dFinally, truth is an absolute defense to defamation.
Most importantly, because defamation and damages are so tough to prove and costly to litigate, most real lawyers will only undertake such a case: a) on a contingency basis if the defendant is a millionaire or a company with tangible assets; or (b) on an hourly basis if the plaintiff provides a hefty retainer ($7500 +).
A lawyer-pal of a pro bodybuilder would be treading on dangerous ground if they filed suit against someone for the sole purpose of intimidation. For one, the defendant could find grounds for a countersuit, thus doubling the work for the lawyer/pal ($$) AND now requiring the plaintiff to continue the case even if he was only trying to scare someone. Only a newbie inexperienced foolish lawyer would take such a case.
The animated GIFs I saw were satire which is protected under People v. Flynt (Hustler Mag). In a parody-image of a magazine advertisement for a popular alcoholic drink, Hustler described a drunk Falwell having an incestuous encounter with his mother in an outhouse. Flynt won the case at the US Supreme Court level.
That said, here's what you can say:
"Ronnie Coleman is pregnant with twins"
"Kamali has no arms"
"Rhino sucks"
"Lee is an alien from planet Krypton"
"Elmo just got his PDI pro card"
"All fitness girls are sluts"
"The Olympia is fixed"
"Victor is a convict"
"Ruhl's girl looks like a man"
"Shawn's ex-girlfriend is a man"
"Supplements are a scam"
"VPX stands for Venereal Pubic Xchange"
"Chick wears wife-beaters"
"All Pros are drug dealers"
"Titus killed Kelly's career"
"Titus killed Melissa"
"OJ killed Nicole"
"Patsy killed JonBenet"
"Bertil killed her"
"Sally killed Ray"
"Youngblood killed himself"
"Branch needs a hair transplant"
"Flex needs a kidney transplant"
"Don Long needs a brain transplant"
"Sgt. D needs an eyeliner transplant"
....I could go on but I think you all get the point. So, AT EASE creative soldiers...and get back to having fun and making us laugh.
Special "Grubman" Ed
I am
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America was founded on Revolution and has been fought in the Court system everyday since.
Its the American way...
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What kind of stuff have you posted about J*ck L*nd*n that mad him PM you?
No need to go into detail, just outline the general stuff.
YIP
Zack
Apparently agreeing with Bob Chic gets you on the "soon to be sued" list. I haven't posted anything about him beyond saying he couldn't beat Chic, which he can't.
Some people can't take the heat of the kitchen their practicing their posing in.
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It's not the threats it's a lack of new material.
The shots of Vince by the pool have been used in more threads than the word "the".
OK GUYS !
KEVIN SAID WE NEED MORE PHOTOSHOP PICTURES OF VINCE !!!!
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Just wondering, why do people on here give chick a hard time. Im talking about the people that have never met him.
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Chick does it to himself.
I agree, but the main reason is:
Chick likes to argue and debate with people significantly smarter than himself, and is unable to realize when he's in over his head.
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Getbig lost a lot when the guest feature was turned off.
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Getbig lost a lot when the guest feature was turned off.
lol yeah, a lot of 240 haters.
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Simple solution: de-mod everyone except Ron.
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Simple solution: de-mod everyone except Ron.
Agree.
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lol yeah, a lot of 240 haters.
240 isn't getbig history, he's not been here for that long.
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Out of personal experience, part of the reason GetBig is loosing its excitement is because of the newer over-zealous mods. Why post here if your thread is going to be deleted for no apparent reason? While others remain?
For example, I posted the thread about Mass monsters vs/ swimmer physiques THREE times. First time, deleted. Second time, moved to Y-Board. Third time...we'll see, it's still here (for now). So a completely relevant, non-slanderous, PG rated thread gets whacked while threads like "Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce" (offtopic), or "Vince Goodrum has 99.5% Ebay rating" (offtopic), or "Best Haircut in Bodybuilding" (offtopic/lame), or "Lee Priest shows his true colors (Racist Meltdown)" (slander/offensive), etc. Remain indefinitely.
So the guys who post good stuff, get sick of their threads being deleted, and leave, might be one of the reasons -- not lawsuits.
This is a great post here with well thought and intelligent arguments here. The MODS have too much stroke here...I keep starting a thread simply asking for Hany Rambod to answer in regards to what Long Island Iced teas are and how they will help me for contest prep and how one enters the status of being an 'ebony mountain of muscle' and it is deleted everytime. Half of my posts get zapped while stupid bullsiht like 'Hulkster/Truce' 'Flex wheelers bodyfat the monday before the 93 Olympia' and horsesiht like that stay.
I think Ron should be the only sheriff in this town.
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At least one pro and at least one regular member have used the threat of lawsuits to stop insults upon them on getbig.
Does talk like this hurt the fun and creativity that used to exist here?
Why would you characterize insults as fun and creative?
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Why would you characterize insults as fun and creative?
why not??? kind of like you giving product to that beast rhino and calling it a sponsorship..that's creative of you and funny...
sue me.
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Simple solution: de-mod everyone except Ron.
I imagine Ron is too busy to be sole mod. I do agree however, that talking about suing people gets old really quickly and is very irritating.
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Why would you characterize insults as fun and creative?
Because they are...thats what we do here at getbig. Nobody is safe...truth is told, lies are uncovered and we leave people no room for error here at getbig. We nitpick and OWN here...this is what makes getbig so notorious and wildly popular and if you dont like it go to MAYHEM and tell everyone 'good job, bro...look good bro...good luck bro...good job bro...you're gonna do well good luck this weekend bro'
Thats not how we handle buisness here at Getbig.
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At least one pro and at least one regular member have used the threat of lawsuits to stop insults upon them on getbig.
Does talk like this hurt the fun and creativity that used to exist here?
not with me ... sasha (aka seauantea) is one of the best criminal lawyers in my province and a good friend ... that gives me carte blanche :D
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Get this straight once and for all, no matter how many animated .gif's you clowns make or insults you fling at these "pros" none of it will stand in court.
Don't let Kamali, Jack London or any other fool intimidate you,
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:D
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Get this straight once and for all, no matter how many animated .gif's you clowns make or insults you fling at these "pros" none of it will stand in court.
Don't let Kamali, Jack London or any other fool intimidate you,
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Exactly.
I don't think I've ever seen anything posted here that doesn't pass the Hustler v. Fallwell test:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell
These "I'm gonna soo you" morons are just blowing smoke, and you're stupid if you fall for it. Even if they really believe they can successfully sue you, any good lawyer they go to to take their case will quickly disabuse them of that notion.
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hahahahahahaha
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I don't think I've ever seen anything posted here that doesn't pass the Hustler v. Fallwell test:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell
Hustler has pwned more than just the dignity of women, I see!
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It amuses me to read what some consider entertainment and creativity on Getbig. There are way too many anonymous people on Getbig who cross the line of what is fair to say about others. I think stirring others is okay but actually slandering another is beyond fair play. What happens a lot here is that some people use insults and personal attacks to get even with others they are engaging. When their targets do not respond to such insults these nasties often have to resort to really offensive comments to stir that person. I find that rather sad.
If someone calls another a pedophile, and do not have any proof or evidence, then that is slander. Especially if the person is a known individual. How is calling anyone that supposed to be a joke and amusement? I have seen some cowards make up lies about others sending personal messages to them when in fact no such PM was ever sent. If they are doing this to support their pedophile charge then that is reprehensible. Also, some people post a quote of a PM or message that is not the actual message. How on earth can anyone protect himself against creative nonsense like that?
Another sorry avenue or strategy of some here is to attack family or ex wives of known people. Why on earth would anyone do that? That is beyond okay in any open society. We all know what to expect at Getbig. Even though one of the conditions of posting here is not to make personal attacks or to slander others we see this happening all the time. I think the moderators should be more consistent and remove slanderous comments and attacks against family and those not involved on Getbig.
The rule I think that should govern what is fair is to put ourselves in the position of the receiver of posts. Would we like or approve of what is being said? We have seen that some known individuals openly post statements about others that are plainly damaging. Sometimes the target appears to clear his name but the truth is the internet is not a good place to try to do that. Usually what happens is that it is one person's opinion versus the other.
If the owner of Getbig allows slanderous statements to remain on Getbig then he could be responsible for publishing them. I think the moderators do remove most of the truly unfair and offensive material but so much remains that they give up doing much about it. If people actually send messages to the moderators that certain statements are offensive or perhaps slanderous then the moderators have a duty to do something about those posts. When the offensive threads or posts are removed or deleted some will complain that someone ran to Ron about things. Well, it is easy for anonymous people to hide behind that screen and say whatever they like about known people and quite another thing to experience the crap that is dished out to actual people.
I notice stalwart 'characters' like Goatboy go to a lot of trouble to protect himself from possible litigation. Now, why would anyone have to do that? Sure he could be making up stuff about using a neighbour's connection to post crap on Getbig but I would bet some people do what he says or something else that will make it almost impossible to be tracked down. Getbig is not a level playing field when you have people using their own names or are known even with internet handles versus characters who are virtual identities alone. What I have seen occur on other forums is that some people use gimmick accounts to attack people they dislike or want to stir or humiliate.
If someone does slander another then that person should be banned from Getbig. I don't have to spell out what slander is. So many on Getbig insist they are educated and intelligent and yet we see daily how ignorant and irresponsible so many are. Is it any wonder that few top bodybuilders remain on Getbig? You have to be fearless and perhaps part masochist to battle with the flotsam of Getbig and keep doing it month after month. Sure a lot of the stuff is fun. I wonder what some of the targets feel about all that much fun? Like Cool Hand Luke said to the warden who was punishing Luke for his own good, 'I wish you would stop being so good to me!'
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This thread is Roz Basile Approved! :D
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Hey, Goatboy, people have been trying to hunt you down for years. You must be pretty elusive to remain anonymous! You are one of the few here smart enough to know how to really stir people.
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You can clearly see in the fine photo that I have a sense of humour. I am a bit off season. Matter of fact I have been off season for about 17 years now! The little bit of extra bulk is safety fat that you accept in your signature. I have just about completed the alterations to our gym and will be able to attack that bulk soon. My 65th occurs in Sept and I will be publishing some photos then showing some improvement.
Guys like you are amazed that known individuals can keep up with you and even exceed your efforts on Getbig. We will never see who Goatboy is because even his wife and family don't know about your Getbig involvement. You clearly cannot venture into any gym and announce, "Hey, guys, I am Goatboy!"
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You clearly cannot venture into any gym and announce, "Hey, guys, I am Goatboy!"
Why would I? For me, posting is just mindless entertainment. You people are about as real to me as the characters in my favorite tv show. In fact, those who take the boards "seriously" are the ones that should have their heads examined.
(along with old men who wear speedos to the beach, "bulky" people, and chubby-chasers who live in warehouses.)
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Well, Goatboy, your idea of entertainment is to interact not only with stooges and flotsam but actual people. The better you can stir them the more enjoyment you get. You definitely have a sadistic streak in you if you call what you do fun. Smart people usually rationalize their immoral behaviour. Naturally you don't consider what you do offensive. Yes, you are a bona fide wit and highly amusing chap.
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240 used to make up fake sites until he realized he could be making money doing this. That is all that has changed with him. It literally doesn't pay him to piss people off and then expect them to pay him to create a website for them.
I really wonder what guys like Goatboy get out of participating here. Guys like him are here daily and post often. What is the payback for all the time spent here? If he can answer why he engages is so much mindless activity I think we will better understand the mind of an internet troll. His performance here reeks of pathology. Take away the humour and you have a very aggressive, persistent and nasty individual. Maybe he is a bit like Debussey and just a lonely bloke hoping for some human interaction?
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At least one pro and at least one regular member have used the threat of lawsuits to stop insults upon them on getbig.
Does talk like this hurt the fun and creativity that used to exist here?
insults for "fun and creativity"
when does this site graduate from delinquent?
.....oh that'sssss right - you guys live for attacks from a safe distance to calm your insecurities. how did I forget that? ::)
insert typical "epic", 'meltdown", blah blah blah response below. ;D
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Well, Goatboy, You definitely have a sadistic streak in you.
You say that like it's a bad thing. >:(
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240 used to make up fake sites until he realized he could be making money doing this. That is all that has changed with him. It literally doesn't pay him to piss people off and then expect them to pay him to create a website for them.
I really wonder what guys like Goatboy get out of participating here. Guys like him are here daily and post often. What is the payback for all the time spent here? If he can answer why he engages is so much mindless activity I think we will better understand the mind of an internet troll. His performance here reeks of pathology. Take away the humour and you have a very aggressive, persistent and nasty individual. Maybe he is a bit like Debussey and just a lonely bloke hoping for some human interaction?
Debussey = in your head.
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Eh, on the whole internet "sandy vagina gonna sue you are you afraid yet?" thing, I wouldn't say the fear of litigation is stopping anyone here. I call Derek Anthony a cum guzzling queen without fear of reprisal, because that's my opinion of the "man". I can easily argue right to free speech and that he actually does guzzle bucketloads of sperm on a daily basis. Any "pro" that threatens lawsuit for comments made on an internet message board needs to seriously re-evaluate his particular station in life and must really have low self esteem.