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I wouldn't much call it an article but props to them for getting in the mag. I like how the spin is that this will be a "natural" show. LOL.
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I wouldn't much call it an article but props to them for getting in the mag. I like how the spin is that this will be a "natural" show. LOL.
if thats a new artical whats with the 1930s pic
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Does natural looking mean, they take the same shit, but can only get half as big or freaky?
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A reader would think that this is a Natural Organization.... Some needs to show ESPN a pic of Jimmy Vest
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I ran into that "article" the other day, while waiting to get a hair cut.
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I wonder if the other BBing federation will have a bigger writeup this month.
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I wonder if the other BBing federation will have a bigger writeup this month.
LOL. Very True.
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I wonder if the other BBing federation will have a bigger writeup this month.
Yeah they will, if there is breaking news in the Titus case. ;D
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Yeah they will, if there is breaking news in the Titus case. ;D
Sounds like it could be a really positive representation of the sport. The PDI wants to remove excessive drug use, and the other federation wants to remove some of its more homicidal stars. Sounds like a win-win!
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Sounds like it could be a really positive representation of the sport. The PDI wants to remove excessive drug use, and the other federation wants to remove some of its more homicidal stars. Sounds like a win-win!
Does the PDi want to remove drug use, or just guys who don't respond as well to the drugs that the best guys in the IFBB do.
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I wonder if the other BBing federation will have a bigger writeup this month.
LOL. We all can agree that Wayne did a good job of getting where the IFBB hasn't yet.
Do you not agree that it wasn't a totally acurate "article"? If the IFBB had done the same thing (which yes we know they haven't) would you not point out the inaccuracies?
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I still can't decipher the article! lol...
I hear ya lift. Awesome to see coverage tho!
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I still can't decipher the article! lol...
I hear ya lift. Awesome to see coverage tho!
HAHA. I love the swayback in ya.
I will give props to the mainstream coverage. Bogus reporting but maintstream coverage only helps the industry as a whole.
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Does the PDi want to remove drug use, or just guys who don't respond as well to the drugs that the best guys in the IFBB do.
ha ha jealous as the day is long
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I wouldn't much call it an article but props to them for getting in the mag. I like how the spin is that this will be a "natural" show. LOL.
lol was the ifbb article any better??? Oh thats right!
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HAHA. I love the swayback in ya.
I will give props to the mainstream coverage. Bogus reporting but maintstream coverage only helps the industry as a whole.
The industry wins. Now some gay guy flipping thru ESPN Mag may become interested in the IFBB/PDI thanks to that little write up..........before you know, he'll be buying tickets to the Olympia/NOC and soiled trunks from Nasser.......and lap dances from Derek Anthony.......
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There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC. If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start. Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI. Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.
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"administer physicals to identify steroid symptoms"?
Is that drug testing by urine analysis or having the athlete open his mouth, stick out his tongue and say "Ahh"?
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There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC. If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start. Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI. Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.
That's great but how will Wayne explain there is no drug testing and it's not a "natural" show?
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That's great but how will Wayne explain there is no drug testing and it's not a "natural" show?
I'm sure that there was a recent amendment to their rules:
"Before each competition all athletes will be required to perform 10 star jumps, 4 sit-ups and 10 press ups. Any athlete found to be panting after this will obviously be exhibiting advanced symptoms of heart disease indicating heavy steroid use and will be barred from entering the show. Refusal to take the test will be considered a failure"
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^ Brutal lack of factual evidence of "steroid symptoms."
PDI sounds good, but I wouldn't even use the word "natural" in anything but a natural show, since it's obvious most of these guys are juiced to the gills, even if they pass the tests.
I don't think they are implying that they are a natural organisation as they are only trying to "minimize" the use of drugs.
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"administer physicals to identify steroid symptoms"?
Is that drug testing by urine analysis or having the athlete open his mouth, stick out his tongue and say "Ahh"?
and the IFBB does their testing how??
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and the IFBB does their testing how??
Urine analysis.
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Bob has little hand puppets and puts on a show for Ben in his office. If you dim the lights Ben can't tell the difference anymore.
Ben: Are you doing steroids Ronnie?
Puppet #1: No big boss Ben I sure isn't and isn't Bob Cicherillo a great athletes rep
Ben: Bob who?
Puppet #1: The Masters Champion Winner
Ben: Wasn't that Deluca or did he just buy the title?
Bob: God dammit! I mean would you like a cup of coffee sir?
Ben: Jeffers got screwed, <best Monty Burns scowl> EXCELLENT
God, that was stupid....
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That's great but how will Wayne explain there is no drug testing and it's not a "natural" show?
He explained the whole drug testing thing to me today. I will try to remember the guy who will be adminsitering it and I looked him up on the internet. He is some fancy doctor from the Harvard Medical Center. He is one of the premier guys in the field. The IFBB uses jokesters, the Harvard team actually turned down the IFBB requests because they were so phony (requirements). Dr. Harrison Pope is his name. Google it and you will find plenty of info on him.
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He explained the whole drug testing thing to me today. I will try to remember the guy who will be adminsitering it and I looked him up on the internet. He is some fancy doctor from the Harvard Medical Center. He is one of the premier guys in the field. The IFBB uses jokesters, the Harvard team actually turned down the IFBB requests because they were so phony (requirements). Dr. Harrison Pope is his name. Google it and you will find plenty of info on him.
Don't worry--- Kevin Horton will be going through the guy's garbage cans by sunrise.
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Don't worry--- Kevin Horton will be going through the guy's garbage cans by sunrise.
No need to, he was the person who told me that no arrangement has been made with the PDI.
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No need to, he was the person who told me that no arrangement has been made with the PDI.
Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered.
You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract. Pathetic.
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What is interesting is that Harrison Pope is a psychiatrist so I presume all athletes will be required to lay on a couch prior to the pre-jusdging and talk about their childhoods?
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Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered.
You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract. Pathetic.
...if it's on the up and up, whats the big secret?
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Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered.
You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract. Pathetic.
Show me one piece of information that I have provided that has not been true?
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You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract. Pathetic.
Well that's how you find out the facts behind statements. I'm surprised that someone with an MBA doesn't want to check for facts over fiction?
I disagree that finding out facts is pathetic. I'd say that would be threatening peoples wives, posting naked photos while posing like a retard and claiming that your whole family is in prison for serious crimes in order to make you sound like a tough dude.
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Because, kev, you called front desks, and when the lady working wouldn't give you details, you called it a fraud. you never called wayne for his side of the story. you just printed half, with some weak ass sources.
One-sided investigation journalism of a competitor.
Um... yeah...
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What is interesting is that Harrison Pope is a psychiatrist so I presume all athletes will be required to lay on a couch prior to the pre-jusdging and talk about their childhoods?
He has written many books on hormones..ANd Kev, weren't you the one who said he called the NOC venue awhile back and said they had no info about the NOC and no tickets were for sale. Kind of like what you did with the British show. And I might go to the British show, so you better take me to dinner at a nice place.
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He has written many books on hormones..ANd Kev, weren't you the one who said he called the NOC venue awhile back and said they had no info about the NOC and no tickets were for sale. Kind of like what you did with the British show. And I might go to the British show, so you better take me to dinner at a nice place.
Yes I did, and at that time that's what they said. Now I admit things are different. Didn't you say the show was a sell out?
At the moment there are no tickers available for the British show beacuse the venue hasn't even been booked.
What's your take on the fact the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show?
As for dinner, no problem. I'd recommend "Langans" or "Maze" or if you like "soul food" there are numerous take-out establishements in the Hackney area.
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Because, kev, you called front desks, and when the lady working wouldn't give you details, you called it a fraud. you never called wayne for his side of the story. you just printed half, with some weak ass sources.
One-sided investigation journalism of a competitor.
Um... yeah...
No, I called the management there. I've promoted a show there myself.
Why call Wayne? I know the outcome.
ME: "Hi, Wayne, how come the PDI promoter is using athletes on the poster who haven't signed contracts?"
Wayne: "Good that you should ask that question, Everything is going to plan, we are proceeding at our own pace..."
ME: "Ok, cut the crap Wayne, what about the the fact that the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show and did not give you permission to use his name?"
Wayne: "I'm glad you mentioned that, we are moving ahead at our own pace......"
ME: Click! Sound of phone going down
So while you may hang on every word I don't.
You call him, we all know how that goes
240: "Hi Wayne, it's me Rob"
Wayne: "Have you been a good little boy"
240: "No Wayne, I've been a naughty boy"
Wayne: "Then you must be punished"
240: "Ooohhh, will you spank me?"
Wayne: "No, I've got you a front row seat to the NOC"
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kev, you took the immature route. i'm disappointed in you.
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HAHA might be immature but damn funny Kev. hahahaha
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kev, you took the immature route. i'm disappointed in you.
I'm crushed.
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HAHA might be immature but damn funny Kev. hahahaha
I have to stoop to that sometimes when the kid is such a wet behind the ears attention whore.
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...if it's on the up and up, whats the big secret?
Kind of like the IFBB insurance. Remember you wouldn't give any information on that. Whats the big secret
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I have to stoop to that sometimes when the kid is such a wet behind the ears attention whore.
We could count the # of threads this month in which I bash the IFBB policies, vs. how many you bash the PDI.
I am pretty darn sure you spend a lot more time bashing them. And you claim not to care. At least retain your integrity and be honest with the world.
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We could count the # of threads this month in which I bash the IFBB policies, vs. how many you bash the PDI.
I am pretty darn sure you spend a lot more time bashing them. And you claim not to care. At least retain your integrity and be honest with the world.
You do the math, I have a plane to catch.
Where did I say I didn't care?
Intergrity? Thet's something you want to talk to your string puller about.
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Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered.
You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract. Pathetic.
What's pathetic about all of this?
And what do you think Horton should do with the news he "uncovers"?
I think Horton is doing some refreshing investigative journalistic work. Instead of the usual accusations and baseless attacks, feudings. Horton has my respect for making the effort. He doesn't just ask "tough questions" (worthless method if you ask me) on an internet board. By doing his homework, nobody is going to be able to write off Horton as someone without a clue about PDI.
My only objection would be that he's yet to bring that talent to use on the NPC/IFBB stuff. Still, you gotta start off somewhere.
YIP
Zack
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Yes I did, and at that time that's what they said. Now I admit things are different. Didn't you say the show was a sell out?
At the moment there are no tickers available for the British show because the venue hasn't even been booked.
What's your take on the fact the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show?
As for dinner, no problem. I'd recommend "Langans" or "Maze" or if you like "soul food" there are numerous take-out Establishments in the Hackney area.
No I never said it was a sellout. Please point that out. I said it was going to be a sellout. You are good at twisting things. Is that a prerequisite with the IFBB. I have no idea about the promoter and can careless. That poster was not to be seen it was what they call a draft. Please tell me you know what that is so I don't have to explain it.
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No I never said it was a sellout. Please point that out. I said it was going to be a sellout. You are good at twisting things. Is that a prerequisite with the IFBB. I have no idea about the promoter and can careless. That poster was not to be seen it was what they call a draft. Please tell me you know what that is so I don't have to explain it.
Happy to oblige.
The 2004 NOC was a sellout and so is the 2006 NOC.
As for the poster, it was used for 3 days by you guys to support your claim that the British was a real event. Only when it was revealed that the venue had not been booked and the promoter listed was not involved was it claimed to be a draft.
And I'm well aware of what a draft is, it's the sensation you PDI supporters feel between your ears.
Over to you. ;D
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Does natural looking mean, they take the same shit, but can only get half as big or freaky?
Correct.
No one wants the 'supplements' gone from the sport completely, but there's a large group of people who'd like to see the use (or at least the effects of using) minimized a bit from what's currently on display within the IFBB.
I don't think most ESPN readers have a clue what the "International Federation of Body Builders" is, but at a minimum, I would've expected the PDI to provide a link to their own website in the article.
That said, kudos to them for getting some pub in the general sports media.
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There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC. If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start. Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI. Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.
While I agree with the point of your post, I don't see how the PDI really benefits (right now) given that there was no contact information provided in the piece. I see an old photo like that in a modern magazine and my first thought is, "What county fair are they talking about?" So, I'd be intrigued, but without a way to get more information, I'd be likely to forget about it.
Does that sound reasonable?
So, imagine how NON-fans might perceive it.
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A reader would think that this is a Natural Organization.... Some needs to show ESPN a pic of Jimmy Vest
The article clearly states the PDI wants to "minimize performance enhancing drugs", not that the PDI will be natural. BB's will be marked down for looking like sickly freakish cartoon characters, sounds good by me.
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Also, hope PDI takes it one step more and bans the orange people. No more of this sickly orange paint on the competitors. They didn't need it years ago, why now?. In a industry that has no taste its no suprise they would think of painting themselves orange. How about a decent lighting designer?.
Most normal people will mention the orange people as one of the reason they don't like watching or going to bodybuilding shows. I say down with orange people. Send them back were they came from....the IFBB.
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What is interesting is that Harrison Pope is a psychiatrist so I presume all athletes will be required to lay on a couch prior to the pre-jusdging and talk about their childhoods?
i participated in a study he ran years ago in Boston............very smart man!
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The article clearly states the PDI wants to "minimize performance enhancing drugs", not that the PDI will be natural. BB's will be marked down for looking like sickly freakish cartoon characters, sounds good by me.
uh oh things went from bad to worse for rhino
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There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC. If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start. Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI. Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.
Do you have anything to back this statement up? Or is it more "The PDI is going to rule the world" nonsense you tend to post? My take is Wayne pulled some strings and got himself some nice exposure, but this doesn't mean that ESPN has taken a sudden interest in BBing.
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Do you have anything to back this statement up? Or is it more "The PDI is going to rule the world" nonsense you tend to post? My take is Wayne pulled some strings and got himself some nice exposure, but this doesn't mean that ESPN has taken a sudden interest in BBing.
He has been meeting with the executives there regualry and has gotten a good repore with them. This is what he told me when we talked. He did pull strings and he did find an executive that appreciates BB but does not like the way it has turned. So as far as I know Wayne has convinced hm enough at least to put a blurb in the #2 SPorts maagazine in the world. Not matter how much people will try to put this down or downgrade it, it is a very very positive thing for the PDI. And to think my nonsense is more believeable than just about anything you post. Sit back son and watch what happens before you embarass yourself more.
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He has been meeting with the executives there regualry and has gotten a good repore with them. This is what he told me when we talked. He did pull strings and he did find an executive that appreciates BB but does not like the way it has turned. So as far as I know Wayne has convinced hm enough at least to put a blurb in the #2 SPorts maagazine in the world. Not matter how much people will try to put this down or downgrade it, it is a very very positive thing for the PDI. And to think my nonsense is more believeable than just about anything you post. Sit back son and watch what happens before you embarass yourself more.
Don't get all bunged up with me because you are a PDI cheerleader. And speaking of embarrasing yourself, you can STILL get VIP orchestra seating for the NOC ( I just checked). Some sellout.
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Keith - You know I want this thing to succeed, but I think the only people who had a clue about what they were reading in ESPN are those who follow GetBig.com. They should've used a recent photo of Lee to promote the NOC in the mag.
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"ALL DRUGS"--Adonis
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Keith - You know I want this thing to succeed, but I think the only people who had a clue about what they were reading in ESPN are those who follow GetBig.com. They should've used a recent photo of Lee to promote the NOC in the mag.
Putting a recent picture of Lee would have gone against what they were trying to express. Lee has some of the best arms in the biz but you put his picture with that article and you can't tell me it wouldn't look "cartoonish".
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He has written many books on hormones..ANd Kev, weren't you the one who said he called the NOC venue awhile back and said they had no info about the NOC and no tickets were for sale. Kind of like what you did with the British show. And I might go to the British show, so you better take me to dinner at a nice place.
Yes he did say that, but "THEY" said there was no info. ::) So I guess if Kevin can't verify it then it must not be true. Trying to discredit PDI is getting beyond sad for some of you guys. Remember, it is doomed to fail so why waste your time. ::)
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Putting a recent picture of Lee would have gone against what they were trying to express. Lee has some of the best arms in the biz but you put his picture with that article and you can't tell me it wouldn't look "cartoonish".
I think it is more the big guts than big arms they are against. Hell, bber's are known for their big arms even by the average person.
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I think it is more the big guts than big arms they are against. Hell, bber's are known for their big arms even by the average person.
I agree but do you not agree that Lee's physique is rather "cartoonish"? The average person can't relate, the dude looks like he is straight out of a comic book. Now a Vinny G physique would represent more of what they were professing in the article.
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I agree but do you not agree that Lee's physique is rather "cartoonish"? The average person can't relate, the dude looks like he is straight out of a comic book. Now a Vinny G physique would represent more of what they were professing in the article.
I agree about Lee but I also think the average person could not even relate to Frank Zane.
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I agree but do you not agree that Lee's physique is rather "cartoonish"? The average person can't relate, the dude looks like he is straight out of a comic book. Now a Vinny G physique would represent more of what they were professing in the article.
Vinny G?
He ain't PDI anymore.
PDI's shoot at success would be to become respectable, and that Reeves pic is a good choice IMO. Some of the picks for PDI pro cards are quite questionable.
Jim Vest?
Jack London?
Sean Allan could perhaps present an old school type of physique. He just needs to get in shape the old fashioned way, work hard. Instead of relying on the diuretics. Frei, I dunno.
If there were guys with physiques like Intenseone once had, PDI would not have to compare themselves with the IFBB.
Don't try to be better, you can't.
Be different instead.
YIP
Zack
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There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC. If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start. Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI. Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.
I hope they do. Bodybuilding in its current state just plain sucks. As long as the IFBB is the only game in town it will continue to suck.