ESPN "article"

[240 is Back]

He explained the whole drug testing thing to me today.  I will try to remember the guy who will be adminsitering it and I looked him up on the internet.  He is some fancy doctor from the Harvard Medical Center.  He is one of the premier guys in the field.  The IFBB uses jokesters, the Harvard team actually turned down the IFBB requests because they were so phony (requirements).  Dr. Harrison Pope is his name.  Google it and you will find plenty of info on him.  

Don't worry--- Kevin Horton will be going through the guy's garbage cans by sunrise.

[kmhphoto]

Don't worry--- Kevin Horton will be going through the guy's garbage cans by sunrise.

No need to, he was the person who told me that no arrangement has been made with the PDI.

[240 is Back]

No need to, he was the person who told me that no arrangement has been made with the PDI.

Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered. 

You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract.  Pathetic.

[kmhphoto]

What is interesting is that Harrison Pope is a psychiatrist so I presume all athletes will be required to lay on a couch prior to the pre-jusdging and talk about their childhoods?

[Chick]

Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered. 

You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract.  Pathetic.

...if it's on the up and up, whats the big secret?

[kmhphoto]

Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered. 

You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract.  Pathetic.

Show me one piece of information that I have provided that has not been true?

[kmhphoto]

You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract.  Pathetic.

Well that's how you find out the facts behind statements. I'm surprised that someone with an MBA doesn't want to check for facts over fiction?
I disagree that finding out facts is pathetic. I'd say that would be threatening peoples wives, posting naked photos while posing like a retard and claiming that your whole family is in prison for serious crimes in order to make you sound like a tough dude.

[240 is Back]

Because, kev, you called front desks, and when the lady working wouldn't give you details, you called it a fraud.  you never called wayne for his side of the story.  you just printed half, with some weak ass sources.

One-sided investigation journalism of a competitor.

Um... yeah...

[onlyme]

What is interesting is that Harrison Pope is a psychiatrist so I presume all athletes will be required to lay on a couch prior to the pre-jusdging and talk about their childhoods?

He has written many books on hormones..ANd Kev, weren't you the one who said he called the NOC venue awhile back and said they had no info about the NOC and no tickets were for sale.  Kind of like what you did with the British show.  And I might go to the British show, so you better take me to dinner at a nice place.

[kmhphoto]

He has written many books on hormones..ANd Kev, weren't you the one who said he called the NOC venue awhile back and said they had no info about the NOC and no tickets were for sale.  Kind of like what you did with the British show.  And I might go to the British show, so you better take me to dinner at a nice place.

Yes I did, and at that time that's what they said. Now I admit things are different. Didn't you say the show was a sell out?
At the moment there are no tickers available for the British show beacuse the venue hasn't even been booked.
What's your take on the fact the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show?

As for dinner, no problem. I'd recommend "Langans" or "Maze" or if you like "soul food" there are numerous take-out establishements in the Hackney area.

[kmhphoto]

Because, kev, you called front desks, and when the lady working wouldn't give you details, you called it a fraud.  you never called wayne for his side of the story.  you just printed half, with some weak ass sources.

One-sided investigation journalism of a competitor.

Um... yeah...

No, I called the management there. I've promoted a show there myself.
Why call Wayne? I know the outcome.
ME: "Hi, Wayne, how come the PDI promoter is using athletes on the poster who haven't signed contracts?"
Wayne: "Good that you should ask that question, Everything is going to plan, we are proceeding at our own pace..."
ME: "Ok, cut the crap Wayne, what about the the fact that the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show and did not give you permission to use his name?"
Wayne: "I'm glad you mentioned that, we are moving ahead at our own pace......"
ME: Click! Sound of phone going down

So while you may hang on every word I don't.

You call him, we all know how that goes

240: "Hi Wayne, it's me Rob"
Wayne: "Have you been a good little boy"
240: "No Wayne, I've been a naughty boy"
Wayne: "Then you must be punished"
240: "Ooohhh, will you spank me?"
Wayne: "No, I've got you a front row seat to the NOC"

[240 is Back]

kev, you took the immature route.  i'm disappointed in you. 

[Lift Studios]

HAHA might be immature but damn funny Kev. hahahaha

[kmhphoto]

kev, you took the immature route.  i'm disappointed in you. 

I'm crushed.

[kmhphoto]

HAHA might be immature but damn funny Kev. hahahaha

I have to stoop to that sometimes when the kid is such a wet behind the ears attention whore.

[onlyme]

...if it's on the up and up, whats the big secret?

Kind of like the IFBB insurance.  Remember you wouldn't give any information on that.  Whats the big secret

[240 is Back]

I have to stoop to that sometimes when the kid is such a wet behind the ears attention whore.

We could count the # of threads this month in which I bash the IFBB policies, vs. how many you bash the PDI.

I am pretty darn sure you spend a lot more time bashing them.  And you claim not to care.  At least retain your integrity and be honest with the world.

[kmhphoto]

We could count the # of threads this month in which I bash the IFBB policies, vs. how many you bash the PDI.

I am pretty darn sure you spend a lot more time bashing them.  And you claim not to care.  At least retain your integrity and be honest with the world.

You do the math, I have a plane to catch.

Where did I say I didn't care?

Intergrity? Thet's something you want to talk to your string puller about.

[Hedgehog]

Maybe that's because he knew your giggly ass would run to the nearest dialup connection and blab to the world, which is what you've promptly done with every piece of PDI news you've uncovered. 

You've called hospitals, promoters, theaters, etc, then talked trash on the boards when the kid at the front desk answering phones couldn't detail you the PDI contract.  Pathetic.

What's pathetic about all of this?

And what do you think Horton should do with the news he "uncovers"?

I think Horton is doing some refreshing investigative journalistic work. Instead of the usual accusations and baseless attacks, feudings. Horton has my respect for making the effort. He doesn't just ask "tough questions" (worthless method if you ask me) on an internet board. By doing his homework, nobody is going to be able to write off Horton as someone without a clue about PDI.



My only objection would be that he's yet to bring that talent to use on the NPC/IFBB stuff. Still, you gotta start off somewhere.

YIP
Zack

[onlyme]

Yes I did, and at that time that's what they said. Now I admit things are different. Didn't you say the show was a sell out?
At the moment there are no tickers available for the British show because the venue hasn't even been booked.
What's your take on the fact the promoter listed has nothing to do with the show?

As for dinner, no problem. I'd recommend "Langans" or "Maze" or if you like "soul food" there are numerous take-out Establishments in the Hackney area.

No I never said it was a sellout.  Please point that out.  I said it was going to be a sellout.  You are good at twisting things.  Is that a prerequisite with the IFBB.  I have no idea about the promoter and can careless.  That poster was not to be seen it was what they call a draft.  Please tell me you know what that is so I don't have to explain it.

[kmhphoto]

No I never said it was a sellout.  Please point that out.  I said it was going to be a sellout.  You are good at twisting things.  Is that a prerequisite with the IFBB.  I have no idea about the promoter and can careless.  That poster was not to be seen it was what they call a draft.  Please tell me you know what that is so I don't have to explain it.

Happy to oblige.

The 2004 NOC was a sellout and so is the 2006 NOC. 

As for the poster, it was used for 3 days by you guys to support your claim that the British was a real event. Only when it was revealed that the venue had not been booked and the promoter listed was not involved was it claimed to be a draft.
And I'm well aware of what a draft is, it's the sensation you PDI supporters feel between your ears.

Over to you.

[Tre]

Does natural looking mean, they take the same shit, but can only get half as big or freaky?

Correct. 

No one wants the 'supplements' gone from the sport completely, but there's a large group of people who'd like to see the use (or at least the effects of using) minimized a bit from what's currently on display within the IFBB.

I don't think most ESPN readers have a clue what the "International Federation of Body Builders" is, but at a minimum, I would've expected the PDI to provide a link to their own website in the article.

That said, kudos to them for getting some pub in the general sports media. 

[Tre]

There is a very good chance the Magazine is going to cover the NOC.  If it does then the PDI is off to a very good start.  Wayne has a very good relationship with them now and it appears they are looking to help support him and the PDI.  Like I said, if they do decide to cover the show, the PDI is going to sky-rocket in value.

While I agree with the point of your post, I don't see how the PDI really benefits (right now) given that there was no contact information provided in the piece.  I see an old photo like that in a modern magazine and my first thought is, "What county fair are they talking about?"  So, I'd be intrigued, but without a way to get more information, I'd be likely to forget about it. 

Does that sound reasonable? 

So, imagine how NON-fans might perceive it. 

[nycbull]

A reader would think that this is a Natural Organization.... Some needs to show ESPN a pic of Jimmy Vest

The article clearly states the PDI wants to "minimize performance enhancing drugs", not that the PDI will be natural. BB's will be marked down for looking like sickly freakish cartoon characters, sounds good by me.

[nycbull]

Also, hope PDI takes it one step more and bans the orange people. No more of this sickly orange paint on the competitors. They didn't need it years ago, why now?. In a industry that has no taste its no suprise they would think of painting themselves orange.  How about a decent lighting designer?.

Most normal people will mention the orange people as one of the reason they don't like watching or going to bodybuilding shows. I say down with orange people. Send them back were they came from....the IFBB.