this is crazy. it looks likes someone took a picture of my bodyrght now and then morphed his head onto it. ???
Ronnie Coleman?
Damn, dude. You got really tubby there.
Kinda reminds me of myself about 4 months ago.......actually, I may have been leaner than you, but not by much.......
Yah,
I picture most people on this site about that fat and fatter.
Most everyone at any gym is about that fat.
The sad thing is, they think it is muscle. Of course I always knew better.
Adonis, what was your bodyweight in those shots? Any idea?
Also, what was your approach for cutting? diet/etc.
You've made great improvements, did you drop any strength during your transformation?
Adam pm me with details of the diet if it is actually true the way you did it......I will take your suggestions and give them to my nutritionist friend to see if they are fit for my next competition or not.....
I would assume that your strength compared to BW went up, I was wondering if the poundages that you used prior to the diet dropped?
dont you thing getting that heavy helped you put the muscle on in the first place?you never looked like you carried that much bodyfat in the back and side pics,impressive change
Reason I ask is because I read an article about a month ago on Olympic weightlifters in the smaller weight classes. It said that these guys would purposely cut their calories to stay at a certain weight, but the amazing thing is that their strength didn't suffer at all, in fact they were still getting stronger in preparation for the competition. I was just trying to see if anyone else experienced this.
oh...my...god!
horrific!
TA, much respect for actually posting these...especially considering how you look now! incredible transformation!
Reason I ask is because I read an article about a month ago on Olympic weightlifters in the smaller weight classes. It said that these guys would purposely cut their calories to stay at a certain weight, but the amazing thing is that their strength didn't suffer at all, in fact they were still getting stronger in preparation for the competition. I was just trying to see if anyone else experienced this.
Getting heavy is useless. COMPLETELY USELESS.
You should remain as lean as possible.
why the hell are you wearing a speedo.hahahah i was thinking the same thing.
Of course some will drop because I am at less of a mechanical advantage with a waist in the 20s versus a 38 or 39 inch waist and fat arms.
People get duped and think strength equals muscle. No thats not it at all. It has more to do with being at a mechanical advantage.
I could break AAU records now most likely in power to weight. Before it would be difficult.
This is my true strength and not "Mechanical Strength"
Of course some will drop because I am at less of a mechanical advantage with a waist in the 20s versus a 38 or 39 inch waist and fat arms.
People get duped and think strength equals muscle. No thats not it at all. It has more to do with being at a mechanical advantage.
I could break AAU records now most likely in power to weight. Before it would be difficult.
This is my true strength and not "Mechanical Strength"
That's not even high 20's....I was 29% when I started my diet and I was a LOT fatter than that. My guess would be 20%-18%.
What "mechanical" advantage does excess fat afford you?
I have more that documents the whole process.
Remember. No cardio,No supplements, 3 days a week at the gym, and Ice Cream and cookies.
I will present this all. I think this will help people to understand and perhaps accomplish something they always thought was impossible due to some kind of adherence.
Yessssss!! too easy!!
You are very close and his numbers are purposefully exaggerated.
Holy moly. Why do you yo-yo around with your weight to such extremes like that? Are you kinda like Lee Priest in that you just don't care?
do you expect people to believe you are 40% in those pics?
migizi claims to be 30%, and is a shitload fatter than you there, would this make him 95% bf?
Do the math.
There is no way I would be 205-210 pounds Ripped at my height. It is virtually a Scientific impossibility for EVERYONE who is a lifetime natural.
Most people you see at the gym are about 50 percent bodyfat or close to it.
how much do u weigh in the pics?
Do the math.
There is no way I would be 205-210 pounds Ripped at my height. It is virtually a Scientific impossibility for EVERYONE who is a lifetime natural.
Most people you see at the gym are about 50 percent bodyfat or close to it.
You are making the assumption that someone can't be more muscular than you, have a larger structure than you, be better than you, naturally.
That is where you are mistaken.
You know, it's funny you mention that, because I actually get stronger while reducing calories, i.e., "cutting". Really odd.same happens to me, when i diet for a contest i get stronger than what i am in off season, lifting heavier weight, and this is on a low carb as well
Thing is, everyone else I talk to, seem to be the exact opposite....they lose strength.
I'd like to hear some theories on why this is, if anyone has any........
Not at all. While bone size can vary with length and thickness for people of the same height, it will NOT dramatically increase the area of muscle to a large degree at a given height.
You are forgetting that muscle is only about 35 percent of total human body weight. Bone size does not vary in humans much at all.
That is why the "I have big bones" is invalid as an excuse of why someone is fat.
Yeah. That shows your how fat and disgusting you really are Candidatehahahahahaha.
Do the math.
There is no way I would be 205-210 pounds Ripped at my height. It is virtually a Scientific impossibility for EVERYONE who is a lifetime natural.
Most people you see at the gym are about 50 percent bodyfat or close to it.
You are either:
a) A stupid f**k
b) Feigning ignorance in order to make exaggerated claims so that you might peddle your future products/services.
Either way, if you use 20% body fat at 240 lbs that equates to 48 lbs of fat. When you lose the fat you will not maintain every ounce of lean muscle tissue. It doesn't work that way for a natural. Once you cut down to say 180 lbs at 8% body fat that would equate to about 166 lbs of non fatty tissue. That compares to the 192 lbs of non-fatty tissue you had prior to the diet meaning you lost roughly 26 lbs of muscle in addition to 44 lbs of fat. That is how it works unless you are using drugs of some form.
You are either:
a) A stupid f**k
b) Feigning ignorance in order to make exaggerated claims so that you might peddle your future products/services.
Either way, if you use 20% body fat at 240 lbs that equates to 48 lbs of fat. When you lose the fat you will not maintain every ounce of lean muscle tissue. It doesn't work that way for a natural. Once you cut down to say 180 lbs at 8% body fat that would equate to about 166 lbs of non fatty tissue. That compares to the 192 lbs of non-fatty tissue you had prior to the diet meaning you lost roughly 26 lbs of muscle in addition to 44 lbs of fat. That is how it works unless you are using drugs of some form.
same happens to me, when i diet for a contest i get stronger than what i am in off season, lifting heavier weight, and this is on a low carb as well
Furthermore, your pathetic equations are figuring that Bone Mass,Organ mass and everything else in the human body is muscle.
Muscle is only about 35 percent of bodyweight if that.
All your calculations all these years have no validity.
Try again.
You DO NOT LOSE muscle that easy.
I have it all documented don`t worry. Using an X-ray or sonogram is the ONLY way to prove if in fact any muscle loss occurs while dieting. The numbers that you see on a scale,caliper and even a tank are way off in determining fat/muscle loss.
IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO LOSE MUSCLE MASS even in an caloric defecit. Calipers do NOT determine anything other than size variation of subcutaneous tissue as it is a measurement of such. Nothing more.
I take it you don`t have free access to a Radiologist. :)
Try again.
You DO NOT LOSE muscle that easy.
I have it all documented don`t worry. Using an X-ray or sonogram is the ONLY way to prove if in fact any muscle loss occurs while dieting. The numbers that you see on a scale,caliper and even a tank are way off in determining fat/muscle loss.
IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO LOSE MUSCLE MASS even in an caloric defecit. Calipers do NOT determine anything other than size variation of subcutaneous tissue as it is a measurement of such. Nothing more.
I take it you don`t have free access to a Radiologist. :)
P.S. Adam....unless you increase the factors over what is considered proper radiographic techniques.....you shouldnt see soft tissue (i.e. muscle, ligament, tendon, etc) on an x-ray. You occasionally will see some hyper-spasmed muscles such as a psoas muscle....but this is the exception to the rule.
P.S. Adam....unless you increase the factors over what is considered proper radiographic techniques.....you shouldnt see soft tissue (i.e. muscle, ligament, tendon, etc) on an x-ray. You occasionally will see some hyper-spasmed muscles such as a psoas muscle....but this is the exception to the rule.
Depends on if you are using High Res, X-Ray Diffraction
Not sure if you have seen these Curt....
Use of Diffraction Enhanced Imaging to Determine the X-ray Refractive Indices of Various Tissues at Biologically-Relevant Energies
Matthew Teng
Cornell University
Advisor: Zhong Zhong, Ph.D.
Brookhaven National Laboratory
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This experiment used diffraction enhanced imaging (DEI) to investigate the refractive indices of various organic tissues and water at X-ray energies similar to the energies of medical X-rays. We employed Silicon 333 reflection, which is typically used in DEI. In order to measure the small change in refractive index accurately across different samples and different energies, we constructed a sample holder which confined the sample to a 90-degree wedge. We analyzed the experimental data to determine the refractive indices for several organic tissues and water, and then we fitted them to a theoretical model. Clearly, each substance has a different refractive index. However, all substances showed the same inverse relationship between the energy and refractive index. This information will aid integration of DEI into clinical medicine in terms of optimization of DEI parameters in a clinical setting.
Introduction
Diffraction enhanced imaging (DEI) is a relatively new X-ray imaging technique which provides a very high contrast X-ray image of a subject using a single, monochromatic X-ray energy (Johnston et al. 1996). We used diffraction enhanced imaging in a research program aimed at studying the refractive indices of various organic tissues. This project was undertaken in order to further understand and investigate the possible introduction of DEI into a clinical medical imaging modality. This research was conducted at the X15A beamline at the National Synchrotron Light Source (NSLS) at the Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL).
The underlying basis for DEI functionality exploits the unique atomic structure of perfect crystals. Synchrotron X-ray radiation produces high-powered X-rays covering an energy range of a few keV to a few hundred keV. A crystal monochromator is placed in the path of the X-ray beam, which is used to select a small energy range from the incident white X-ray radiation (Zhong et al. 2002). As a result, only X-rays with appropriate wavelength and energy are selected by the monochromator. Furthermore, an additional crystal, the analyzer crystal, is placed behind the sample. The purpose of the analyzer crystal is to reduce the scattering of the X-ray beam, which results from the elastic and inelastic (including Comption) scattering of the beam as it passes through the subject. The analyzer crystal also converts the differences in refraction angle, which result from the interaction of the electrons in the subject with the X-rays that pass through the sample, into a difference in intensity. As the radiation diffracted by the analyzer strikes the detector, it forms an image that is sensitive to the X-ray refraction. This difference in intensity permits a much greater degree of image contrast of the sample. As the X-rays strike the varying internal structure of the sample, differences in intensity result due to the varying thicknesses and densities of internal structure.
The DEI experimental setup allows for an improved radiological image with increased contrast when compared to the standard X-ray imaging techniques currently employed throughout the medical field. As a consequence, with the use of DEI, it is possible to image and distinguish among various types of soft tissue. The current X-ray imaging technology does not possess high enough contrast (at reasonable X-ray dosages) to distinguish among the relatively density-similar soft tissues. When the X-ray beam strikes the sample, there are two possible results that are relevant to DEI. That is, the X-rays can be absorbed, scattered, or refracted (Chapman et al. 1997). If the radiation is absorbed, then the intensity difference due to differences in sample absorption creates the absorption contrast. This contrast mechanism is the only contrast in conventional X-ray imaging, is well understood and provides one mechanism of contrast between different substances. However, as stated before, the X-rays can also be refracted. X-ray refraction properties are only measured and reported for a few inorganic materials, typically for 8 keV X-rays, which are too low for clinical imaging. Thus, in order to properly integrate DEI technology into clinical use, the refractive indices at high X-ray energies are needed to accurately build a digital model of various organic tissues. This could possibly provide an easier method of imaging soft tissue.
Theoretically, it is possible to measure the refractive indices of X-rays by directly measuring the deviation of the beam as it passes through the sample (James 1948). Practically, since the deviation from unity of the X-ray refractive index is very small, on the order of 10-6, the deviation of the beam is too small to be accurately measured (on the order of microns). Thus, an experimental method was developed to take advantage of DEI analyzer’s high angular resolution, on the order of micro-radians, to accurately measure this small angular deviation. Using the DEI technique, along with the proper calibration procedure and algorithm, it was possible to determine the absolute value of refractive indices of a few different types of tissues. The method used in this investigation can be easily adapted to other tissues in future studies.
Methods and Materials
This investigation took place at the X15A beamline at NSLS at the Brookhaven National Laboratory. See Figure 1 for experimental setup (Zhong 2002).Figure 1. The most popular SCI model is the rodent contusion model, with a necrotic core surrounded by histologically normal-appearing myelinated fibers and portions of grey matter from both dorsal and ventral horns (left). Similar to human SCI pathophysiology, the cell loss continues radially in all directions, so that the lesion expands over time. By 60 days post-SCI, there remains only a thin rim of white matter (right). Massive cell death, causing irreversible damage, occurs immediately after the initial impact in the central core region. However, cell death continues to occur over several days and weeks and offers an opportunity for therapeutic intervention to rescue the neural cell populations that are at risk of dying after the first few hours (Hulsebosch 2002). (Click image for larger version)
The design of the sample holder is schematically shown in Figure 2. It consists of a rectangular cell culture dish, with each compartment measuring approximately 10 mm in width. We used a total of 7 compartments in this experiment, and each compartment was filled with a different material. Each divider was approximately 1 mm in width. Figure 2. Corticospinal tract (CST) sprouting across the midline in the spinal cord after adenoviral vector neurotrophin 3 (Adv.EF -NT3) transduction of motoneurons. Dark-field photomicrographs of spinal cord cross sections showed the unlesioned CST axons. (A) Section from a normal rat (sham surgery). (B) Section from an Adv.EF -LacZ-treated rat (control vector). (C) Section from an Adv.EF -NT3-treated rat. CST neurites can be seen arising from the intact CST, traversing the midline, and growing into the gray matter of the lesioned side of the spinal cord. (A'-C') Higher-power photomicrographs of the regions around the central canal (Zhou et al. 2003). (Click image for larger version)
The cell culture dish was set up in such a way that the dish’s edges were 45 degrees off of the horizontal and the X-ray beam (Figure 3).
The bottom edge of the dish and the support strut were fixed into place using Devcon 5-minute epoxy. After we set up the sample-containing apparatus, we placed it into the experimental chamber and subjected it to DEI rocking curve measurement. The X-ray imaging beam was approximately 80mm in width. The energy points that were used for this experiment were 30, 32, 34, and 36 keV. We calibrated the energy of the X-ray beam using the K-edge of Iodine (33.169 keV) and then set by precisely controlled motors that functioned to tune the monochromator and the analyzer crystal. The beam was passed through a gas ionization chamber, whose purpose was to monitor the intensity of the oncoming beam. We used a shutter to control the exposure time of the sample. The sample was supported on a platform, which could be adjusted by a vertically moving linear stage controlled by stepper motor to accurately position the object in the path of the X-ray beam.Figure 3. Remyelination of the rat spinal cord following transplantation of adult human precursor cells. Normal (A), demyelinated (B), and remyelinated axons (C) of the dorsal column. (D) Remyelinated axons at higher magnification. The anatomical pattern of myelination was similar to that produced by Schwann cells (arrows). (bar: A–C, 25 µm; D, 10 µm) (Akiyama et al. 2001). (Click image for larger version)
For each energy that was used, two data sets were taken. One of the data sets was taken with the sample in the direct path of the beam (referred to as the “sample” set) while the other data set was taken with a sample placement outside of the beam, known as the “air” set, allowing for calibration. In an algorithm written later, the rocking curve peak position data derived from the air set was essentially subtracted from the sample set, thus reducing to a minimum the electronic noise interference and systematic error due to monochromator and analyzer crystal non-uniformity. During the data extraction, 56 scan lines were taken for every data set; the first 5 scan lines were taken with the shutter closed to measure the detector dark current, and the remaining 51 scan lines were taken with the shutter opened. Each data line was taken at different analyzer positions ranging from –5 to 5 micro-radians at a step size of 0.2 micro-radians.
Data analysis was conducted using an algorithm, written in IDL programming language that determined the refractive index of the tissue.
Results
Examining the experimental setup, it is possible to see the method of determining the refractive index of the organic tissue of interest (Figure 4).Figure 4. Schematic of a piece of spinal cord that has sustained an initial injury (black central oval) that spreads progressively outward and radially (red circular region followed by orange circular region) in zones until it finally reaches the final lesion size (grey shaded area). Blue lines are axons, and green rectangles are the myelinating oligodendrocytes. Methods of intervention: 1) reduction of edema and free radical production, 2) rescue of neural tissue at risk of dying in secondary processes such as abnormally high extracellular glutamate concentrations, 3) control of inflammation, 4) rescue of neuronal/glial populations at risk of continued apoptosis; 5) repair of demyelination and conduction deficits, 6) promotion of neurite growth through improved extracellular environment, 7) cell replacement therapies, 8) efforts to bridge the gap with transplantation approaches, 9) efforts to retrain and relearn motor tasks, 10) restoration of lost function by electrical stimulation, and 11) relief of chronic pain syndromes (Hulsebosch 2002). (Click image for larger version)Considering the refraction at the left surface of the prism, it is apparent that
δΘ = Θ2 – Θ1
Using Snell’s Law:
n1 /n2 = sin Θ2 /sin Θ1
Therefore,
1/(1 – δ) = sin (Θ1+ ΔΘ)/(sin Θ1) [Equation 1]
where 1-δ is the refractive index of the material. The X-ray refractive index of the air is assumed to be 1.
Assuming for a small δ and δ Θ:
1 + δ = 1 + cot (Θ1)( ΔΘ) [Equation 2]
Therefore,
ΔΘ = [tan (Θ1)]( δ) [Equation 3]
Since the experimental apparatus was designed such that
Θ1 = 45 °
ΔΘ = δ
Considering this experiment, the X-ray beam was refracted at both the entering and exiting surfaces of the sample. Therefore,
ΔΘ = 2(δ)
Thus, the refractive index
δ = ½ (ΔΘ) [Equation 4]
As can be seen, the refractive index can be determined from simply measuring the angular deviation of the X-rays that pass through the material. This angle can be measured accurately by measuring the intensity-versus-angle curve (or rocking curve) of the analyzer crystal. As is known, the refractive index of any substance is energy dependent. In this investigation, we analyzed 7 substances at 4 different energies. These energies were 30, 32, 34, and 36 keV. This tunable energy range is similar to the X-ray energies that are generally used in clinical practice.
The first and second cells of the culture dish contained pork fat and chicken breast, respectively. The second, third, and fourth cells of the culture dish contained human breast parenchyma, human breast fat, and human breast fat along with skin, respectively. The tissues were provided by University of North Carolina Medical School with IRB approval. The sixth and seventh cells of the culture dish contained air and water, respectively. The data for the air chamber was used as a calibration to selectively eliminate the natural noise found in the experimental chamber. The deviation from unity, delta, of the refractive index was analyzed and determined for all substances (Table 1). Table 1. (Click image for larger version)
Discussion and Conclusions
Table 1 shows the absolute determined refractive index values of all the substances. Over the regulated energy range, the chicken breast has a higher index of refraction than the pork fat. This is to be expected, since chicken breast is a muscle tissue and muscle is typically more dense than fat.
These two tissues, chicken breast and pork fat, were used because they were the most generic muscle and fat tissues that were available. These results can be further used as models to serve future analysis. The composition of animal and human tissue is remarkably similar and thus the refractive index of those tissues can be assumed to be very similar and independent among species.
Over the regulated energy range, the breast fat and breast fat with skin refractive index values were comparable. This result is most likely due to the positioning of the skin in the compartment. The skin was placed alongside the closed end of the cell (Figure 5).Figure 5. (Click image for larger version)
The skin acts as a parallel plate, which serves to cancel the extra refraction due to the skin. Furthermore, human skin is very fibrous, and as a result, the skin is expected the scatter X-rays more than fat. However, since only the refractive index was measured in this experiment, we are not sensitive to scattering properties. Furthermore, the values of the refractive index of breast fat and pork fat are very similar. There is less than a 1.40% difference between the two different fats. This confirms the similarity in density, chemical composition and morphology of the same type of tissue among different species. The refractive index values of the breast tissue provide critical information for modeling a DEI system for mammography.
The refractive index of water under this energy range was very important to determine, since water constitutes nearly 70% of the human body and will almost always have an effect on the imaging procedure. The absolute refractive index values of water are considerably lower than every other organic tissue in this study. This is expected since water is much less dense than the organic tissues of interest in this study.
For low-Z materials, the deviation from unity, δ, of the refractive index is proportional to 1/E2. Z represents the number of electrons per atom. Using the measured values and a fitting procedure, it is possible to determine the refractive index value at any X-ray energy from the following formula.
δ = α * (1/E2) [Equation 5]
where α is a constant coefficient which is a unique property of the material. From Equation 5, it is apparent that δ is in a linear relationship with 1/E2. A linear regression analysis was applied to the experimental data and confirmed a statistically significant linear relationship between δ and 1/E2. The α value is proportional to the electron density of the specimen and E is the X-ray energy in keV.
Accordingly, taking all the obtained data from this experiment, it was possible to determine α for all substances used (Table 2). The α-values were determined by calculating the α-values of the individual experimental energies and averaging them to reduce experimental error. Averaging the α-values is a valid calculation because of the linear relationship of Equation 5.Table 2. (Click image for larger version)
Thus, using the determined α-values along with Equation 5, it is possible to predict the refractive index of an organic tissue at any desired energy. According to the theory, the refractive index, n, is (Zhong 2000)
1 – n = δ + iβ = (1/2π)reλ2 Σj (Nj + fj’ + ifj’’) [Equation 6]
where re = e2/mec2 = 2.818 x 10-15, which is the classic electron radius, and
λ is the X-ray wavelength.
Nj, zj, fj’ and fj’’ are the number density of atoms, the atomic number and the real and imaginary dispersion terms, respectively, for an atom j. The difference between the refractive index of the substance and that of a vacuum is (Guinier 1963)
δ = 1 – n = (1/2π)Nereλ2 [Equation 7]
where Ne = electron number density.
For the theoretical value, in the case of water,
Ne = 3.346 x 1023 electrons / cm3 = 3.346 x 1029 electron / m3
Using this value, it is possible to determine the theoretical α value of water by the following algebraic manipulation.
δ = 1 – n = (1/2π)Nereλ2 [Equation 7]
Using the approximation of λ = (12.4/E), in which λ is in Angstroms and E is energy in keV, we have
δ = 1 – n = (1/2π)Nere(12.4/E)2
δ = 1 – n = (1/2π)Nere(12.4)2*(1/E2) [Equation 8]
Previously stated,
δ = α * (1/E2) [Equation 5]
Thus,
α = (1/2π)Nere(12.4)2 [Equation 9]
Using Equation 9, the theoretical α-value of water is calculated as 2.31 x 10-4
Comparison of the theoretical water α-value with the experimental α-value led to a 26% discrepancy. This could be due to some experimental setup error. The experimental error was likely caused by the intrinsic variations of the samples. In other words, the samples were not homogenous throughout, which would affect the measurements. However, this error can be further minimized by averaging data over a larger area and by repeating measurements a few times to double-check the intrinsic texture variation.
The next step, which is already underway, is to incorporate the understanding of DEI contrast mechanisms into a clinical X-ray tube-based system. The currently employed X-ray conditioning (monochromator) and analyzer systems used at the National Synchrotron Light Source will be modified to suit an X-ray tube in order to deliver the flux necessary within a few minutes time. Brookhaven National Laboratory, in collaboration with the Illinois Institute of Technology, University of North Carolina, and Rush Medical School, is currently funded by the National Health Institute to carry out research to produce and test a prototype of a clinically-viable DEI system.
Adam...if you want to get into some sort of pissing match on that subject I will engage....but for the general MD/DC/etc....they will be using the standard x-tube with tungsten filament that is not intended for soft tissue scans....
TA if u really claim to eat all the shit u do it would have to be extemely small servings considering your basal metabolic rate. so u act like u eat wateva u want but in reality ur prob having a tblspoon of ice cream here and there due to its caloric density. especially considering what a little turd u are ur , for your calories to be in a deficit you are probably eating very close to if not under 2000? due explain..
those pictures at the top of the thread show that all the talk about Adonis's legs being small are total bullshit, great development there.
Actually for my body I am at a defecit at approximately 2981.612 calories. That is without cardio and my basic routine such as work etc...
I can teach everyone their limit with my equation.lets see it dog
Alot of bullshit equations and methods out there. But mine is EXACT.
He is speaking on topis of which he is ignorant. He is reaching...
Actually for my body I am at a defecit at approximately 2981.612 calories. That is without cardio and my basic routine such as work etc...
What fucking records would you be breaking delusional-boy?ooooooh big talk coming from a guy who presses a MASSIVE three plates and a small cookie on each side of the Hammer Strength flat press, does swinging t bars with an ungodly 6 plates and pulls all of his deadlifts of the pins of the power rack, hahahaha, you're a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What??? LOL!!! I haven't been this amused by a post in a LONG TIME!!!! How the heck can you make a statement about caloric requirements to the 1000th??? If you had ANY kind of understanding of the body you would know that is not possible at this time.
What??? LOL!!! I haven't been this amused by a post in a LONG TIME!!!! How the heck can you make a statement about caloric requirements to the 1000th??? If you had ANY kind of understanding of the body you would know that is not possible at this time.
Those are going to be obsolete. Mark My Words!
Actually he is right about this, but most physicians wouldn't order a test like this (done for research, etc. only...)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9313753&dopt=Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9313753&dopt=Abstract)
Now where he's wrong is blaming all the fat gain on clean foods - TA don't flip flop on the point you're trying to make - weeks ago you're saying it doesn't matter what kind of food is eaten to get lean, a calorie is a calorie, etc. Now you're claiming that chicken breasts and oatmeal specifically made you as fat as you are in the first pics. This is why people ending up laughing at you in the end....
I can teach everyone their limit with my equation.lets see the equation my main man....
Alot of bullshit equations and methods out there. But mine is EXACT.
ooooooh big talk coming from a guy who presses a MASSIVE three plates and a small cookie on each side of the Hammer Strength flat press, does swinging t bars with an ungodly 6 plates and pulls all of his deadlifts of the pins of the power rack, hahahaha, you're a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
those pictures at the top of the thread show that all the talk about Adonis's legs being small are total bullshit, great development there.
lets see the equation my main man....
Look, just because the jackass did a Pubmed search and posted something which is essentially irrelevant to the argument doesn't mean he is right???
Come on!
Of course it is. Calorimeters are accurate.
I will only help those who really are interested in wanting help.im interested black
This is from the Massachusetts Technology Transfer Center
Method and System for Body Composition Analysis Using X-Ray Attenuation http://www.masstechportal.org/IP984.aspx (http://www.masstechportal.org/IP984.aspx)
I should say something here. I would have no problem with TA trying to be a business man and selling any routine or whatnot he has come up with but I DO have a problem with the fact he is using b.s. to do it.
TA, you have made a nice transformation that a lot of people would like to emulate. You needn't b.s. them to accomplish your goal.
I`m not.
You attacked me. Remember that. I`m just stating facts.
Ok, so what have you proven here relative to your argument? Please read the last paragraph carefully before answering.
Chris
Yeah. That shows your how fat and disgusting you really are Candidatefor a natural bodybuilder i agree....but compared to everyday people that is actually averae, if not thin.... absically if you do not have a stomach, to the general public ou are "fit".
LOL, holy shit TA, I love you man, but FFS, this is going to be a right fucker to wriggle out of
Advantage Mr Mason, new balls please :)
BTW, Chris, why do you get you knickers in such a knot?