What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
They are legal through prescription!
Theres a ton of useless laws in the u.s. and having roids be illegal is one of them. I wouldn't classify steroids in the same categories as meth, or heroin. Gods judgement is his judgement and I'm not sure if your qualified to question wheather Dugdale will be condemned for it.
Does the Bible say anything about Vanity?
Sugar serves no good purpose in the human body .
It's also illegal in some towns to have sex with your wife on Sundays. Does that mean all Christians are commiting a sin by breaking this law? Sugar serves no good purpose in the human body as well as many of substances that are legal and accepted. Does this mean it is OK do eat them because they are legal? How bout cigarettes? Mans laws and Gods laws are two different things.
Yes it does! But at the same time, this is how he makes his living and provides for his family!
Hey if you gotta shave your whole body, oil yourself up, put some pigment-inducing shit all over yourself, and stand in front of hundreds of people in a garment smaller than your regular underwear, to put food on your family's table,then so be it.
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...
Hey if you gotta shave your whole body, oil yourself up, put some pigment-inducing shit all over yourself, and stand in front of hundreds of people in a garment smaller than your regular underwear, to put food on your family's table,then so be it.
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do...
Thats what I'm saying.....as long as it isn't illegal!
Thats what I'm saying.....as long as it isn't illegal!
It's also illegal in some towns to have sex with your wife on Sundays. Does that mean all Christians are commiting a sin by breaking this law? Sugar serves no good purpose in the human body as well as many of substances that are legal and accepted. Does this mean it is OK do eat them because they are legal? How bout cigarettes? Mans laws and Gods laws are two different things.
So god's laws make it ok to use performance enhancers? i'm thinking that most christians would say following god's laws meant also following the laws of man too.
As long as it doesn't go against Gods law. Man's laws are not based on what God wants!
They are legal through prescription!
As long as it doesn't go against Gods law. Man's laws are not based on what God wants!
Check out the ten commandments before you say man's laws aren't based on god's laws...there is a one or two that talk about not stealing and not killing.
Your logic is circular. Man Made God.I was brought up to not believe that statement. But I do.
Your logic is circular. Man Made God.
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
You cannot be a flag-waving Christian in America without being a major hypocrite in one way or another. It's mandatory.
You cannot be a flag-waving Christian in America without being a major hypocrite in one way or another. It's mandatory.
It's also no big deal. By all accounts, the guy is a hard-working family man who tries to lead by example in the non-bodybuilding areas of his life.
His life, his call. If you want to make your judgments about him based solely on his faith, that's fine, but he's entitled to live the life he has chosen for himself. If (as you state) he's broken any laws, then there will possibly be a consequence for those actions.
I have yet to hear a single person say that Mark is not a good guy.
Where did I say he was a bad guy?
Never, in what I wrote, did I rip him for living the bodybuilding lifestyle...which we all know includes illegal activities due to acquiring performance enhancers...i asked if anyone else thought that he was a hypocrite for all his jesus speak on one hand and then doing what he does to produce a professional bodybuilding physique on the other. I never ripped him for being a bad guy---just being inconsistent--it's what makes religion a joke and the people who blather on about it look even sillier, including him.
Your Christian bashing gets old....give it a rest!
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
keeping him alive maybe? just a guess :)
Kind of like Ronnie Coleman, thanking Jesus after his veektory........what the f**k does Jesus have to do with you pigging out on proteins and abusing AAS? Please tell me....
One of my core beliefs is that - regardless of faith or position in life - we all have things to work on.
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
All of this is reposted from a previous thread about Dugdale and Christianity.
Like most people who wear their religion on their sleeves, I think he’s being a hypocrite. Professional body building is anything but a Christian undertaking. AAS is only a small part of the problem.
Taking pride in your appearance is one thing but body building requires a great deal of vanity--hardly a Christian virtue. Your goal is not merely to achieve (cosmetic) physical conditioning, it is to be looked at, admired, and, yes, even worshipped. This doesn’t just happen on stage or in magazines. This latter characterization is underscored by posing for a venue like musclegallery.com; a company that specializes in homoerotica and muscle worship videos. And don’t get me started in private posing . . .
http://musclegallery.com/mark_dugdale/index.htm
Part of what makes body building problematic is that it is based entirely on the superficial. You don’t have big muscles in order to do something (run fast, jump, lift heavy, etc.) you have them simply for the sake of showing them off; you build and build yourself up, but for no possible purpose. The proliferation of synthol and implants scarcely warrant comment.
I’m not saying you can’t be a Christian and enjoy sports, but professional bodybuilidng? What Bible is he reading? As someone said previously.... very selective Christianity. Alas, in this he has plenty of company.
Here’s a serious question: why do Christians love to tell people they are Christians? Who are they trying to convince? We have a saying where I come from, “Don’t listen to what people say; listen to what they do.” If you are a Christian, all you need do is walk the walk. Don’t talk the talk.
You horrible gay man.............I curse thee for pointing out the truth! ;) ;D
Here’s a serious question: why do Christians love to tell people they are Christians? Who are they trying to convince? We have a saying where I come from, “Don’t listen to what people say; listen to what they do.” If you are a Christian, all you need do is walk the walk. Don’t talk the talk.Excellent post. This subject reoccurs all the time,but this and Special Ed's contributions made this thread worth reading.
How's that right wing zealot anti-liberal thing working out for you? Kill any left leaning democrats today?
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
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buying and using steroids IS illegal.
I always wondered what people thought of Ron Coleman (only one i knew of off hand that was a cop)...He is suppose to enforce the law, yet breaks it daily...I know a little off topic, but was throwing my worthless two cents in. :-\
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...he's a typical foxhole "christian" just like the majority of these churchgoing assholes in the US, treat people like dog shit during the week and throw a few bucks in the dish at "church" on Sunday, hypocrites.
he's a typical foxhole "christian" just like the majority of these churchgoing assholes in the US, treat people like dog shit during the week and throw a few bucks in the dish at "church" on Sunday, hypocrites.
he's a typical foxhole "christian" just like the majority of these churchgoing assholes in the US, treat people like dog shit during the week and throw a few bucks in the dish at "church" on Sunday, hypocrites.and what do u do on sunday after being a prick all week.
and what do u do on sunday after being a prick all week.at least i'm consistent about it, i know i'm an asshole but some of these people profess to be such caring "christians" as long as they're helping their own kind.
at least i'm consistent about it, i know i'm an asshole but some of these people profess to be such caring "christians" as long as they're helping their own kind.
Isn't it funny that the bible tells them to love one another, yet, they hate so many........gays, or people who don't agree with their beliefs for example.hahahaha, exactly, Bill Maher was just on O'Reilly the other night talking about htis.
I'm sure Jesus approves....... ::)
All of this is reposted from a previous thread about Dugdale and Christianity.
http://musclegallery.com/mark_dugdale/index.htm
Here’s a serious question: why do Christians love to tell people they are Christians? Who are they trying to convince? We have a saying where I come from, “Don’t listen to what people say; listen to what they do.” If you are a Christian, all you need do is walk the walk. Don’t talk the talk.
As long as it doesn't go against Gods law. Man's laws are not based on what God wants!
Who is this "God" you speak of? Has he talked to you, told you "the laws"? Was not man created in Gods image? Would your parents ostracize you if you made a mistake? Many laws that are called "God's laws" were thought up by men.
To Mark's credit he was not aware of what musclegallery was about. I don't think he researched it. He's a smart guy and I would assume he is good with bookkeeping, BUT we all make mistakes sometimes and this was probably one of those times. Oh well - live and learn.Oh come on, of course he knew. I'm certain he asked or was told who'd done work for them and checked out their site etc.
I do believe in a higher power, but even though I was raised Christian I have come to see what a load of crap it is. How can another man tell you what you must find out for yourself.
"Too many churches and not enough truth"
So god's laws make it ok to use performance enhancers? i'm thinking that most christians would say following god's laws meant also following the laws of man too.
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This nonsense again.
And where in the bible does is say to hate gays? Any specific verse? Oh yeah - one verse in the old testament. Then Jesus came along and the new testament came out and we were supposed to evolve right? ::)
Monster use of religion to justify your own hatreds.
dugdale shouldnt be dellusional. steroids do more harm than good OBVIOUSLY!
Where does it say in the bible that you are not allowed to use performance enhancing drugs? Anyone got a specific verse?
And where in the bible does is say to hate gays? Any specific verse? Oh yeah - one verse in the old testament.Not hate but read the first chapter of the romans.
lol.
There we have it. This is exactly the mentality of Christians and I may not agree with it, but at least you aren't using Christianity to justify these thoughts.
The way Dugdale is using them, yes. TRT has all kinds of benefits, but Dugdale is obviously using slightly higher doses coupled with SprayFlex. TA might be interested in reading these links:
http://www.antiaginginfo.net/miracle.htm
http://www.drcranton.com/hrt/hghspray.htmI am surprised daddywaddy has not got a string of threesomes under his belt, I mean, surely when screwing some hot slag, he would need her friend to wrap her hand around the three inches left 'out in the cold' so to speak.
Monster dong!!!
DW, can we get an official measurement of your cock, if only for correct archiving purposes?
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
I'm pretty sure part of the Christian god's law is to obey the laws of man, even laws which are plain and utter stupid bullshit. That's why religion was created by man to begin with - as a mean's of control. Funny thing is, religion is probably the bane of the world right now which causes far more harm than good. The only reason why Christian fundamentalists in the USA are not radicals who go out and commit terrorist acts is because they are not oppressed. If they were, I assure you they would be equally psychotic.
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This nonsense again.
And where in the bible does is say to hate gays? Any specific verse? Oh yeah - one verse in the old testament. Then Jesus came along and the new testament came out and we were supposed to evolve right? ::)
Monster use of religion to justify your own hatreds.
it does say in the bible that same sex relationships is against gods will.
it does say in the bible that same sex relationships is against gods will.
My religion (protestant) made it very clear that we were to respect and obey the laws of man, as well of god. That was our particular interpretation of the King James bible.
LOL yeah I got ahead of myself :)aw, you edited your post, fucking meanie!
Where does it say in the bible that you are not allowed to use performance enhancing drugs? Anyone got a specific verse?
So its ok for say dugdale to use steroids in Thailand where it is acceptable, that would be ok then?
God didn`t make anyone with a GH gut.hahahahahahaha, are you suggesting that Dugdale knew exactly what he was getting into when he "posed" for Musclegallery and Colt magazine, Adonis?
He is going against God`s laws. hahhahahah
I could only imagine how faggy Mark Drugdale is in person.
Dugdale appeared in various men to men hardcore productions?
Dugdale appeared in various men to men hardcore productions?i'm sure he only sucked dick for the money, Mars, he probably hated every minute. ;)
i'm sure he only sucked dick for the money, Mars, he probably hated every minute. ;)
What's the deal with this guy? I read a story and he is expressing his Christian values and all this Jesus talk and all that...Now, I'm not bodybuilding insider but it's widely known performance enhancing drugs are used in professional bodybuilding...they are illegal in the U.S. also--doesn't this appear a bit hypocritical on his part? IMO...
It's also illegal in some towns to have sex with your wife on Sundays. Does that mean all Christians are commiting a sin by breaking this law? Sugar serves no good purpose in the human body as well as many of substances that are legal and accepted. Does this mean it is OK do eat them because they are legal? How bout cigarettes? Mans laws and Gods laws are two different things.
A man has to eat!
It's also illegal in some towns to have sex with your wife on Sundays. Does that mean all Christians are commiting a sin by breaking this law? Sugar serves no good purpose in the human body as well as many of substances that are legal and accepted. Does this mean it is OK do eat them because they are legal? How bout cigarettes? Mans laws and Gods laws are two different things.God law is simple. If you break it,it hurts you. Well its impossible to break though.
religous ppl think that god created humans perfect, what is the appendix for then? oh wait thru evolution we lost the use for it as we advanced right. We are animals just like every other thing on this planet, just advanced ones where inteligence was key to our survival and dominance. Christians are hypocrites cause it is their animal instinct to act the way they and we all do, they can't help it, church helps them feel better.right on!
Dudes, leave Dugdale alone....the fact that he's a Christian doesn't make him super-human. Every single person on this earth will die a sinner...everyone from you and me to the pope. The difference is that Christians have accepted Jesus as their saviour and that HE paid for our sins, that way our sins are paid for by Him. So Mark, Ronnie...all Christians are human and we all sin every single day....all of us.what if on some days you don't even get out of bed? how ca you be a sinner then?
Dudes, leave Dugdale alone....the fact that he's a Christian doesn't make him super-human. Every single person on this earth will die a sinner...everyone from you and me to the pope. The difference is that Christians have accepted Jesus as their saviour and that HE paid for our sins, that way our sins are paid for by Him. So Mark, Ronnie...all Christians are human and we all sin every single day....all of us.
Mans laws and Gods laws are two different things.
Dudes, leave Dugdale alone....the fact that he's a Christian doesn't make him super-human. Every single person on this earth will die a sinner...everyone from you and me to the pope. The difference is that Christians have accepted Jesus as their saviour and that HE paid for our sins, that way our sins are paid for by Him. So Mark, Ronnie...all Christians are human and we all sin every single day....all of us.
what if on some days you don't even get out of bed? how ca you be a sinner then?
To me, it pretty much come down to this:exactly.
Why would a "Man of God" CHOOSE a profession in which they KNOW they have to break the law to be successful in?
It's all such BULLSHIT it's LAUGHABLE. When I hear these fakes out there talk about how they "Do this for God" I want to damn puke. They are doing it for NO OTHER REASON than that they have a HUGE ego they need to pump and bodybuilding is their ticket to doing this. It's about NOTHING but SELF-GLORIFICATION, not uplifting God. That's such a blasphemous crock of shit it makes me want to damn throw up every time I hear it.
I'll be damned..someone agreed with me :-X
Yes it does! But at the same time, this is how he makes his living and provides for his family!thats absolute bullshit he is part owner of a multi-million dollar vegetable distributor ::)
I'll be damned..someone agreed with me :-X
To me, it pretty much come down to this:truth. is this one of those christian sites for male bodybuilders? i wasn't sure http://www.musclegallery.com/mark_dugdale/index.htm
Why would a "Man of God" CHOOSE a profession in which they KNOW they have to break the law to be successful in?
It's all such BULLSHIT it's LAUGHABLE. When I hear these fakes out there talk about how they "Do this for God" I want to damn puke. They are doing it for NO OTHER REASON than that they have a HUGE ego they need to pump and bodybuilding is their ticket to doing this. It's about NOTHING but SELF-GLORIFICATION, not uplifting God. That's such a blasphemous crock of shit it makes me want to damn throw up every time I hear it.