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Title: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: skull crusher on December 10, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Rumor is he was getting ready to do a guest pose earlier in the year, and had to pull out after becoming ill. Turns out he has to start dialysis soon ,and will need a transplant. Hes been preparing everyone for the inevitable shrinkage,  by telling everyone hes sick of being big. Very sad. Add Luke to the growing list of bodybuilders melting their kidneys  :'(


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: BIG_STI on December 10, 2009, 10:36:29 PM
whos gimmick are you ?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: The.Giant on December 10, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Pro Bodybuilders are pictures of health.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 10, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
I think it's safe to say bodybuilders nowadays are melting their kidneys due to their drug abuse i.e. pain meds, diuretics and all the other stupid shit.  How can guys like Arnold, Haney, and TONS of others go through decades of BBing without needing a fucking kidney transplant.  How old is Luke Wood anyways?  30s?  Bodybuilders are fucking walking chemistry experiments nowadays.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MAXX on December 10, 2009, 10:39:32 PM
(http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FKX/0YTK/FB7FYD1U/FKX0YTKFB7FYD1U.MEDIUM.gif)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 10, 2009, 10:53:18 PM
Rumor is he was getting ready to do a guest pose earlier in the year, and had to pull out after becoming ill. Turns out he has to start dialysis soon ,and will need a transplant.Hes been preparing everyone for the inevitable shrinkage,  by telling everyone hes sick of being big.Very sad. Add Luke to the growing list of bodybuilders melting their kidneys  :'(

Someone verify this.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 10, 2009, 10:54:56 PM
I'll believe it if someone like Tony Doherty says it.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Doug_Steele on December 10, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Someone verify this.

It could be true.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: io856 on December 10, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Someone verify this.
he was supposed to guest pose in october but didn't


that part is correct


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 10, 2009, 11:18:56 PM
I'll believe it if someone like Tony Doherty says it.
The person that told me, was told by Tony Doherty. So I'm sure it will be verified. If he doesn't he is a liar!!!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Stavios on December 10, 2009, 11:23:18 PM
Why the fuck would someone "prepare" for a guest posing in the first place ?  :-\


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 10, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
The person that told me, was told by Tony Doherty. So I'm sure it will be verified. If he doesn't he is a liar!!!

Nothing against you, but we don't know you and over the years, there's been lots of new accounts coming out with rumors and gossip that were proven to be false later on.

Hope things go well for Luke if it's true :-\



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 10, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Thats true. But it will be hard to keep it secret much longer. Don't know why bodybuilders would risk everything for this so called sport. Wouldn't wish this shit on anyone.But everyone needs to know how dangerous this game is.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dyslexic on December 10, 2009, 11:50:29 PM
It's like anything else...


once you start, you can't stop.





Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 10, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
how retarded you have to be to destroy your own internal organs almost on purpose ... I hope he thinks it was worth it...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tito24 on December 10, 2009, 11:59:50 PM
Why the fuck would someone "prepare" for a guest posing in the first place ?  :-\

Luke always looked great at Guest posing...Not so great in regular contests on the other hand..he did to many experiments come contest time and they back fired most of the time

I hope it wasn't the result of a certain mercurial based diuretic, where the jett pours it into cup for you

If this is true..i hope he recovers quickly..good luck


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tony Doherty on December 11, 2009, 12:01:04 AM
I just got off the phone to Luke, he is well considering what he has been through.

About three months ago he was told the worst and was looking at dialysis and perhaps a kidney transplant.

He has had dozens of blood test and luckily his levels have stabilised for now and he has not needed to start treatment at this stage.

He is on a very  low protein diet and after a few months out of the gym is back training.

He took it pretty hard and when I saw him in October was pretty ordinary. We spoke about the importance of perspective and the irony of hindsight. Luke had an amazing ride and became one of the best in the world at what he loved. Unfortunately, for a whole lot of reasons, he burnt out.

He has retired from pro bodybuilding and is looking forward to getting on with the rest of his life. He is a gentleman and kind person, I wish him every success from this point forward.

I told Luke that we liked him cause he was a good guy, not because he has big muscles.

Luke has been a great supporter of my pro contests, TV shows and gyms. He has always been the first to send congratulations when my 4 kids were born.

Good luck Luke.

As for everyone here, please take it easy it is bad karma to kick someone when they are down.

TD.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:04:53 AM
another one to add to the list. When will they learn.

Who's next?

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when I saw him in October was pretty ordinary.
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I told Luke that we liked him cause he was a good guy, not because he has HAD big muscles.

fixed and welcome back down to earth with the mere mortals.

Oh, and why mention "luck" ? like what happened to him has anything to do with being "unlucky"...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Quickerblade on December 11, 2009, 12:05:43 AM
Oh fuck, i was hoping it was just a rumour.

Good luck luke.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 12:07:11 AM
how retarded you have to be to destroy your own internal organs almost on purpose ... I hope he thinks it was worth it...

It sure was.  ;D

http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=detail&id=38840&Itemid=202

http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=detail&id=38822&Itemid=202

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=35261&id=38840&Itemid=202)

(http://muscletime.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=watermark&catid=35261&id=38822&Itemid=202)

 :o


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: TRIX on December 11, 2009, 12:07:25 AM
I saw him at the australian fitness expo, he was still big and that was in april.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 12:09:56 AM
I saw him at the australian fitness expo, he was still big and that was in april.

Hi Luke.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
Hi Luke.
;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: outby43 on December 11, 2009, 12:11:52 AM
wasn't Luke the dude that was looking for Bigfoot?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:14:08 AM
Washington, octobre 30, 2009
Using steroids for bodybuilding can damage kidney function

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Anabolic steroids, taken by some athletes to gain muscle mass and strength, can destroy kidney function, says a new study.

The study revealed that the habitual use of steroids has serious harmful effects on the kidneys that were not previously recognized.

Leal Herlitz, MD (Columbia University Medical Center) and her colleagues recently conducted a study describing injury to the kidneys following long-term abuse of anabolic steroids.

The researchers studied a group of 10 bodybuilders who used steroids for many years and developed protein leakage into the urine and severe reductions in kidney function. Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe.

When bodybuilders discontinued steroid use their kidney abnormalities improved, with the exception of one individual with advanced kidney disease who developed end-stage kidney failure and required dialysis. Also, one of the bodybuilders started taking steroids again and suffered a relapse of severe kidney dysfunction.  (  ;D  )

The researchers propose that extreme increases in muscle mass require the kidneys to increase their filtration rate, placing harmful levels of stress on these organs. It’s also likely that steroids have direct toxic effects on the kidneys. “Athletes who use anabolic steroids and the doctors caring for them need to be aware of the potentially serious risks to the kidney,” said Dr. Herlitz.

The study has been presented at the American Society of Nephrology’s 42nd Annual Meeting and Scientific Exposition in San Diego, CA.

Keywords: Anabolic steroids, harmful effects, protein leakage, kidney function, dialysis, medical research, health


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 12:14:21 AM
What do these guys expect to happen?  I'm sure he also got his "blood work" done regularly, until one day, it's too late.
It's a ridiculous way to be.  Sacrificing health for a $3 trophy, just plain dumb.
Not to mention, a complete contradiction in what they try to portray...healthy living.

Next, someone will chime in with "you do what you have to, to compete".  Nobody told you to pose in a thong asshole...haha
I guess this makes up for Obama getting the Nobel Prize.
I don't wish harm on Luke personally, but you're an idiot having this lifestyle...period.
Man up, train hard, train natural...otherwise, you're a fag in my book.
BOOOOM! ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 11, 2009, 12:16:40 AM
Sounds like Luke is not living the dream.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:18:30 AM
What do these guys expect to happen?  I'm sure he also got his "blood work" done regularly, until one day, it's too late.
It's a ridiculous way to be.  Sacrificing health for a $3 trophy, just plain dumb.
Not to mention, a complete contradiction in what they try to portray...healthy living.

Next, someone will chime in with "you do what you have to, to compete".  Nobody told you to pose in a thong asshole...haha
I guess this makes up for Obama getting the Nobel Prize.
I don't wish harm on Luke personally, but you're an idiot having this lifestyle...period.
Man up, train hard, train natural...otherwise, you're a fag in my book.
BOOOOM! ;)

a fag with one less kidney.


Sounds like Luke is not living the dream.

(http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/4/13/health/sf_09dialysis1.jpg)
(http://www.vascularweb.org/graphics/northpoint_graphics_jpg/Dialysis_Access_02_Base_250.jpg)
(http://www.greenmeadowscarecenter.com/hemo-dialysis-unit/fullsize/hemo-dialysis-unit-05-640x480.jpg)

talk about a harsh comeback to reality.



Can you imagine cutler, coleman dorian's and others morons internal organs status?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 11, 2009, 12:19:38 AM
Maybe his cock will look bigger with one less kidney....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 12:19:58 AM
Sounds like Luke is not living the dream.
I'm sure it was worth it.  Tons of shmoe fans, many plastic trophies, temporary muscle, squirrel size testicals.
I don't see why more guys with good genetics, don't go this route?

If everyone who trained took the same cycles as most pros, guys like that would be a dime a dozen.  Most have enough sense to not go that route.

Pro bodybuilders are nothing more than drug addicts with good receptors.
True story.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Stavios on December 11, 2009, 12:24:14 AM
This "sport" disgust me more and more


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tony Doherty on December 11, 2009, 12:24:41 AM
Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on December 11, 2009, 12:27:32 AM
Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.

Is this a confirmation?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:28:01 AM
This "sport" disgustS me more and more



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 12:28:51 AM
Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.
oh lord...

i didnt need to ruin my internal organs with drugs for years to "know who i am" for fuck sake dont be retarded...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 11, 2009, 12:28:55 AM

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

I am a balding pedo with no career that mooches off strippers.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Stavios on December 11, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.

Tony, with all due respect, and no offence to Luke I think he is a great guy.
Always nice to everyone on the boards.

but I think people are pissed off because Luke has had health problems for what.... 4 years now ?
At every preparation he did ?

and then the "thyroid meds" drama last year ?

and then he still tried to compete once again ?

I wish Luke all the best, but I think even you will agree that he had more than a few "warnings"


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 12:31:47 AM
[quoting Stavios]

He's French...it's typical for pluralized words to not have an S on them so when he types in English in carries over this element of the language.  :)

Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.

Thanks Tony.  But does AAS really cause any of this?  I would assume kidney failure would have more to do with the extremes related to cutting than anything else.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 12:32:05 AM
Trust me when I tell you that Luke feels bad enough without your hate.

His dream may be over but at least he knows who he is. How many of you guys really know who you are and what you have got.

My favorite saying is this. "The only lessons you learn in life involve pain"

You will all face some major hurdles in life, best wishes to you all.
I know who I am and what I have.  It didn't take buckets and buckets of needles and pills to find out.  Most people are the same.
Of course, it's a mistake he made.  This is not a personal attack, but when something catches up to someone...drug dealer, taker, corporate thief....it's fun for everyone to watch someone fall.

For no amount of money, would I ingest the shit these fools take daily.  You can't replace your health.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dawakaman on December 11, 2009, 12:35:27 AM
Does it have anything to do with him mistaking milligrams for micrograms when using T3 getting ready for a show, and Milos made him aware he was using 1000x as much as needed?
Speak on this.

Peace and all the best to Luke


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 11, 2009, 12:36:09 AM
I am a balding pedo with no career that mooches off strippers.

That's not a post made by Berzerkfury about you


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on December 11, 2009, 12:44:31 AM
That's not a post made by Berzerkfury about you

LOL


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 12:56:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W_X_BA7F4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W_X_BA7F4U

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Special Ed makes a subtle suggestion to Luke Wood who apparently has trouble with the English-Australian translation.

 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: gordiano on December 11, 2009, 01:00:09 AM
This "sport" disgust me more and more

No offense dude, but aren't you part of the problem? You support this facade, hell, you even partake in it.  :-\


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Stavios on December 11, 2009, 01:05:46 AM
No offense dude, but aren't you part of the problem? You support this facade, hell, you even partake in it.  :-\

Well, I competed last year and it was probably the last time the more I think about it.

I hate the "lifestyle"

I love the getting big and strong part


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 01:15:52 AM
Well, I competed last year and it was probably the last time the more I think about it.

I hate the "lifestyle"

I love the getting big and strong part

Yeah, but the ceilings are so much lower for drug-free training.  It's frustrating to know that my bench press and deadlift [while respectable I think] haven't changed all that much in three years.

Pictures of Luke Wood [two are from the 2008 Atlantic Pro and the last one is from the 2005 New York Pro].  Was the first picture where he was at his smallest competitive size?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: BuffGoddess on December 11, 2009, 01:57:31 AM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: WillGrant on December 11, 2009, 01:59:04 AM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness
Hi Alex , is your broski forum past 10 members yet?  :D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 02:11:44 AM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness
You're joking right?
A bunch of grown men in oil and thongs, comparing who has better genetic response to many drugs at once.
Sorry, that's not my definition of a "battle".

There's no heart in heavy drug use.  No talent/skill in bodybuilding.  To make pro bb out to be something more than ingesting numerous drugs and lifting weights...is simply foolish.
Nobody outside of getbig has any respect for steroid users.
Grow up.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Mars on December 11, 2009, 02:12:27 AM
Luke's a cool guy, no one deserves this.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 02:12:31 AM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness

LMAO!  Battle on stage?  What a fucking douchebag you are!  There are warriors doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq.  And you're talking about doing battle on stage in a pair of bikini panties and oiled u muscles?  Get a fucking life!  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 02:13:40 AM
Luke's a cool guy, no one deserves this.
Almost like the guy who runs into a tree coming home from a bar drunk...right?
hahaha, please.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 02:14:33 AM
Luke's a cool guy, no one deserves this.

Needing a kidney sucks.  But no matter how cool you think someone is we all make choices in life and have to deal with the consequences.  Why the fuck would anyone feel sorry for him.  It's like going to Vegas and gambling away your 401K.  It sucks but you roll the dice, nobody forces you to..  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: TRIX on December 11, 2009, 02:17:55 AM
All drugs




Best wishes to luke and his family..


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 02:18:20 AM
All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage?

 ;D

Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...

Don't be silly.  Most of the men on here would beat you with ease in a physical fight.  Remember when you were taught your entire life that men and women were equal?  It was all a lie.  Sorry.  :)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: WillGrant on December 11, 2009, 02:18:57 AM
You must be a recent retard...Pictorials have definitively debunked the question of me being Alex. he and i definitely played a head game with many on here for our own amusement, but I assure you, I am not Alex...I think Ron can settle that argument very quickly, he has spoken with me on the phone. As has Blockhead and Special Ed...So drop that stupid train of thought...I am the BuffGoddess...
If you say so Alex RoughBoddess..  :D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MAXX on December 11, 2009, 02:22:07 AM
LMAO!  Battle on stage?  What a fucking douchebag you are!  There are warriors doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq.  And you're talking about doing battle on stage in a pair of bikini panties and oiled u muscles?  Get a fucking life!  
lmao  ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: BuffGoddess on December 11, 2009, 02:31:07 AM
LMAO!  Battle on stage?  What a fucking douchebag you are!  There are warriors doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq.  And you're talking about doing battle on stage in a pair of bikini panties and oiled u muscles?  Get a fucking life!  
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 02:33:07 AM
LMAO!  Battle on stage?  What a fucking douchebag you are!  There are warriors doing battle in Afghanistan and Iraq.  And you're talking about doing battle on stage in a pair of bikini panties and oiled u muscles?  Get a fucking life!  
Yeah, the battle comment got a good response here...haha
Battle, there isn't even contact in bodybuilding.  Just a bunch of juiced up tools in posing trunks, each more reliant on drugs than the next guy....what pride!!! haah


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tony Doherty on December 11, 2009, 02:34:30 AM
He's French...it's typical for pluralized words to not have an S on them so when he types in English in carries over this element of the language.  :)

Thanks Tony.  But does AAS really cause any of this?  I would assume kidney failure would have more to do with the extremes related to cutting than anything else.

I don't know about his cause specificaly. I have just tried to answer honestly regarding Luke's health, as requested.

To answer your question Matt, I think abuse is bad with anything, AAS, alcohol, street drugs etc. In a bodybuilding sense I personally think that the extras do more harm than anabolics, eg diuretics, thyroids, diet pills, pain pills and stupid shit like dnp.

Some people just ahve no rader regarding use and abuse.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 02:37:55 AM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQlB99WCuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQlB99WCuk


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: 210 and growing on December 11, 2009, 02:40:36 AM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

SHHHUUUUTTTT TTTTHHEEEEE FUUUUUCCCKKKKKKK UUUUUPPPPP!!!!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Meso_z on December 11, 2009, 02:43:20 AM
You're joking right?
A bunch of grown men in oil and thongs, comparing who has better genetic response to many drugs at once.
Sorry, that's not my definition of a "battle".

There's no heart in heavy drug use.  No talent/skill in bodybuilding.  To make pro bb out to be something more than ingesting numerous drugs and lifting weights...is simply foolish.
Nobody outside of getbig has any respect for steroid users.
Grow up.
ok, now stfu. youre typing the same shit in every post.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 02:44:31 AM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

Fuck the cage....I'd step into a parking lot with your ass.  I'd like to see you take my ass to the ground in that scenario you stupid fat fuck.  Rear naked choke?  Haha LOL!  Fucking cage fighting MMA douchebags are all the same. 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tony Doherty on December 11, 2009, 02:46:18 AM
Tony, with all due respect, and no offence to Luke I think he is a great guy.
Always nice to everyone on the boards.

but I think people are pissed off because Luke has had health problems for what.... 4 years now ?
At every preparation he did ?

and then the "thyroid meds" drama last year ?

and then he still tried to compete once again ?

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Agreed, I think the writing has been on the wall for a while, for whatever reason he kept putting himself through unhealthy preps for contests.  Having said that, I wish him well, I would not wish sickness on anyone.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 02:46:32 AM
Fuck the cage....I'd step into a parking lot with your ass.  I'd like to see you take my ass to the ground in that scenario you stupid fat fuck.  Rear naked choke?  Haha LOL!  Fucking cage fighting MMA douchebags are all the same. 

haha, I like how so many people think they are expert fighters because they take a Tuesday night self-defense course at the community college.  ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 02:47:56 AM
ok, now stfu. youre typing the same shit in every post.
Why stop now, I'm almost up to 5500, all identical.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: WillGrant on December 11, 2009, 02:48:24 AM
Fuck the cage....I'd step into a parking lot with your ass.  I'd like to see you take my ass to the ground in that scenario you stupid fat fuck.  Rear naked choke?  Haha LOL!  Fucking cage fighting MMA douchebags are all the same. 
RoughBoddess is "apparently" a female bodybuilder on more androgens than you or I have used in our whole life time but it is acctualy Alex's gimmick account


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 02:57:38 AM
Another retard...can you bench 365?..I'm only 165 lbs asshole
yes I have pictures...
Most of the men on here don't train for MMA with the likes of Nate Quarry, Chris Leben and Ed Herman..but I do! I'd give any one of you 5 minutes to try to take me down, then I'll make you kiss your own ass right before you pass out...and thats being gentle...Think you can upset me by anything you say? GUFFAW!!! You guys are nothing but gum on my shoe.
You are entirely reliant on drugs, so you're not technically a female.
I suggest laying off the hormones, then see how well you do in a gym.  You'll feel much better about yourself in the end.
A little free advice from the Croatch. ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 02:58:23 AM
Another retard...can you bench 365?..I'm only 165 lbs asshole
yes I have pictures...
Most of the men on here don't train for MMA with the likes of Nate Quarry, Chris Leben and Ed Herman..but I do! I'd give any one of you 5 minutes to try to take me down, then I'll make you kiss your own ass right before you pass out...and thats being gentle...Think you can upset me by anything you say? GUFFAW!!! You guys are nothing but gum on my shoe.

Seriously shut the fuck up you stupid girl....you sound like a fucking moron.  No 165lb pile of twat is going to take down any male that knows how to fight, I dont' give a fuck how much you bench, who you train with or what you train for..........I'd crack a fucking bottle over your head bitch, do they teach you how to defend against that in your little MMA workshops? 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 03:02:35 AM
2006:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=105622.0;attach=121271;image)

2008:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=234090.0;attach=273885;image)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 03:04:32 AM
2006:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=105622.0;attach=121271;image)

2008:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=234090.0;attach=273885;image)

LOL dude probably has bigger tits than BuffTwattess in that second pic. 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
Another retard...can you bench 365?..I'm only 165 lbs asshole
yes I have pictures...
Most of the men on here don't train for MMA with the likes of Nate Quarry, Chris Leben and Ed Herman..but I do! I'd give any one of you 5 minutes to try to take me down, then I'll make you kiss your own ass right before you pass out...and thats being gentle...Think you can upset me by anything you say? GUFFAW!!! You guys are nothing but gum on my shoe.

My max bench ever was 345 but on no drugs.  Sad that women juiced to the gills can only slightly exceed what a drug-free male can.  ;D

Men are athletically superior and stronger than women on average.  Now move along.

Seriously shut the fuck up you stupid ####....you sound like a fucking moron.  No 165lb pile of twat is going to take down any male that knows how to fight, I dont' give a fuck how much you bench, who you train with or what you train for..........I'd crack a fucking bottle over your head bitch, do they teach you how to defend against that in your little MMA workshops?  

Exactly.  By the way, since when have women been given permission to post on getbig?  ???

LOL dude probably has bigger tits than BuffTwattess in that second pic.  

 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: no one on December 11, 2009, 03:09:45 AM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh brother


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: no one on December 11, 2009, 03:11:08 AM


2008:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=234090.0;attach=273885;image)

tell me this is a photoshop....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 03:14:14 AM
That's nothing, wait until all the bloodwork, etc coming.  Muscle will only be a memory for this guy, who once weighed @300lbs.
How someone goes down the road of heavy bb drug abuser, it beyond me.  Sure, it was a cool idea at 18, but at 28?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 03:14:47 AM
tell me this is a photoshop....

I know, it's crazy.  :o  I wonder what he looks like now?  More here:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=234090.0


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 03:19:27 AM
I will never sacifice health!!! i love bodybuilding with a passion but there is life after as well. Marrige, kids, the big house and getting old that is very important also.  I think i will have enough size next year to qualify.  I  mean 265lbs at 5'11 will not need more size just exposure!

 :-\


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jr on December 11, 2009, 03:44:40 AM
You can kill people AKA enemies legally during war. Armed forces attract the sociopaths in society.

If everyone refused to go to war, or fight on behalf of a goverment, then what would happen?

Unfortunately, there are many sociopaths or otherwise phychologically compromised individuals on the planet so this scenario is not possible.

Either way, those in charge could wipe out enemy cities and countries with a press of a button, deploying nuclear and biological weapons to their destinations.

Will Luke Wood retain his pro stars on getbig?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Petrucci on December 11, 2009, 03:45:38 AM
man, this thread really went to the shithole fast. Must be a new record on GB


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 03:53:49 AM
Open invitation to any guy that thinks he can take me: Call Next Level and ask to schedule our fight ASK FOR Greg Thompson for mat time, he'll let me know. Don't be perturbed if he laughs at you...Anyone else, if you can't back it up,shut the fuck up....

It is possible you can kick my ass but I can honestly say I just can't be intimated by a women.  It's just not possible for me to be.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 11, 2009, 04:02:18 AM
Another DUMBASS,,, Have you heard of UFC??? Have you heard they'll have a heavy weight division soon for women? have you heard I have a 6-0 record? Step up and make it 7-0..I'm 6-0 in boxing, 4-2 in Tai Kwon Do,  Don't be a retard, just concede defeat and call your stupid beagles off.. Just a suggestion

Have you heard of the STFU??? Go away you delusional old tart. No one gives a shit about your records with schmoes.

This thread is about how stupid Luke wood was to destroy his life and health.

Not about your insecurities and fears of the world, and forever living "THE WARRIOR LIFESTYLE" Bahaaaa.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 04:03:07 AM
My son was in Afghanistan a 2 tours of Iraq, and as mother, all I could do is pray my son came home. So don't give me your bullshit, I was in agony for 4 years, wonde3ring if my baby boy would come home. Fuck you! I know all about sacrifice, battle and winning..


Well let me tell you something you 6 inch clit of a bitch......you know what my mother was doing when she was your age and raising us three boys??????? It sure as hell wasn't shooting her ass full of steroids and competing in UFC fights.  Wow......you must have a big fat dick between your legs.........where's your baby's daddy?  What man would want anything to do with you?  So you can kick everyone's ass huh?"  LMAO!  That's an amazing feat for a mother.  And we wonder why our kids are so fucked up in society nowadays.  Look at their parents!  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 04:04:23 AM
I'm sorry dude but it that is your picture, I'm afraid of my foot getting stuck in your ass....and I'll never get it back..hit me back when you've dropped to 20% bodyfat...

And "she" uses the word dude?  LMAO!  I bet you have a big set of man balls as well as a 9 inch dick huh?  I'm sure you're a real "sweetheart" huh honey?  LMAO! 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 04:04:30 AM
Have you heard of the STFU??? Go away you delusional old tart. No one gives a shit about your records with schmoes.

This thread is about how stupid Luke wood was to destroy his life and health.

Not about your insecurities and fears of the world, and forever living "THE WARRIOR LIFESTYLE" Bahaaaa.
;D
Getbig=Better than most sit coms.
Thanks guys.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: 210 and growing on December 11, 2009, 04:04:37 AM
My son was in Afghanistan a 2 tours of Iraq, and as mother, all I could do is pray my son came home. So don't give me your bullshit, I was in agony for 4 years, wonde3ring if my baby boy would come home. Fuck you! I know all about sacrifice, battle and winning..


Classy chick  ::)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 04:05:37 AM
Well let me tell you something you 6 inch clit of a bitch......you know what my mother was doing when she was your age and raising us three boys??????? It sure as hell wasn't shooting her ass full of steroids and competing in UFC fights.  Wow......you must have a big fat dick between your legs.........where's your baby's daddy?  What man would want anything to do with you?  So you can kick everyone's ass huh?"  LMAO!  That's an amazing feat for a mother.  And we wonder why our kids are so fucked up in society nowadays.  Look at their parents!  
Dude stop, I'm almost pissed myself.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: 210 and growing on December 11, 2009, 04:06:48 AM
Well let me tell you something you 6 inch clit of a bitch......you know what my mother was doing when she was your age and raising us three boys??????? It sure as hell wasn't shooting her ass full of steroids and competing in UFC fights.  Wow......you must have a big fat dick between your legs.........where's your baby's daddy?  What man would want anything to do with you?  So you can kick everyone's ass huh?"  LMAO!  That's an amazing feat for a mother.  And we wonder why our kids are so fucked up in society nowadays.  Look at their parents!  

HAHAHA severe ownage


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 04:07:35 AM
Have you heard of the STFU??? Go away you delusional old tart. No one gives a shit about your records with schmoes.

This thread is about how stupid Luke wood was to destroy his life and health.

Not about your insecurities and fears of the world, and forever living "THE WARRIOR LIFESTYLE" Bahaaaa.

Haha the "warrior" lifestyle?  The only thing this bitch knows about "fighting" is weight classes and nice soft mats she can roll around on.  Throw her ass in a parking lot with gravel and glass and tire irons and she shit herself.  A female bodybuilder talking about how much of a bad ass fighter she is.....LOL I thought I heard it all!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 04:11:07 AM
Open invitation to any guy that thinks he can take me: Call Next Level and ask to schedule our fight ASK FOR Greg Thompson for mat time, he'll let me know. Don't be perturbed if he laughs at you...Anyone else, if you can't back it up,shut the fuck up....

seriously, that is fucking hot
fuck- I won't even fight.  I would just let you beat me up
then, is it okay if a masturbate afterwards?


oh, and how much will it cost?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 04:16:42 AM
seriously, that is fucking hot
fuck- I won't even fight.  I would just let you beat me up
then, is it okay if a masturbate afterwards?


oh, and how much will it cost?

You're a straight up fucking weirdo. 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 04:16:56 AM
It's so refreshing to know that Getbig is the still the same ol shit hole i left before. Full of keyboard gladiators that have never competed in anything but maybe the preliminaries of the Video game awards. Damn! Get off your asses and start competing in actual events that require more than an alien IQ...I have several degrees so dont go there with me...

I agree with you that few on here seem to get to prove themselves by stepping on stage and going to battle.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 04:17:31 AM
It's so refreshing to know that Getbig is the still the same ol shit hole i left before. Full of keyboard gladiators that have never competed in anything but maybe the preliminaries of the Video game awards. Damn! Get off your asses and start competing in actual events that require more than an alien IQ...I have several degrees so dont go there with me...

And what "degrees" do you have sweetie?  Let me guess you're probably a PhD Engineer, MD and JD right?   ::)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 04:18:11 AM
I'm sorry dude but it that is your picture, I'm afraid of my foot getting stuck in your ass....and I'll never get it back..hit me back when you've dropped to 20% bodyfat...

Then it's been settled.  I would defeat you by you getting your foot stuck in my ass rendering you unable to continue the fight.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jr on December 11, 2009, 04:20:00 AM
Well let me tell you something you 6 inch clit of a bitch......you know what my mother was doing when she was your age and raising us three boys??????? It sure as hell wasn't shooting her ass full of steroids and competing in UFC fights.  Wow......you must have a big fat dick between your legs.........where's your baby's daddy?  What man would want anything to do with you?  So you can kick everyone's ass huh?"  LMAO!  That's an amazing feat for a mother.  And we wonder why our kids are so fucked up in society nowadays.  Look at their parents!  

Society has always been fucked up. It's just might more noticable now due to population growth and mass media.

(http://nakedmaninthetree.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/world-population.JPG)

The world economy is doomed once increasing population competing for finite natural resources drives up their prices.

Are both of Luke Woods kidneys damaged?



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 04:20:24 AM
It's so refreshing to know that Getbig is the still the same ol shit hole i left before. Full of keyboard gladiators that have never competed in anything but maybe the preliminaries of the Video game awards. Damn! Get off your asses and start competing in actual events that require more than an alien IQ...I have several degrees so dont go there with me...
Getbig is a much better place, up until a bit ago.  DA took off for a while, didn't you hear.

As far as competing in state fair shows that requires no skill or talent.  I would think most people realize it's somewhat pointless.  If you're going to "compete", be a great musician, or boxer, football player...you know, real sports/activities that require actual skill.
Putting on a thong and displaying how drugs affected your body, is certainly no life accomplishment.  Maybe it gives some the illusion of achieving something, when in reality, it's really nothing more than the person makes it to be.
True story.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: spinnis on December 11, 2009, 04:28:46 AM
"buffgoddess"

hahahahaahahhahha


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 11, 2009, 04:37:56 AM
Getbig is a much better place, up until a bit ago.  DA took off for a while, didn't you hear.

As far as competing in state fair shows that require no skill or talent.  I would think most people realize it's somewhat pointless.  If you're going to "compete", be a great musician, or boxer, football player...you know, real sports/activities that require actual skill.
Putting on a thong and displaying how drugs affected your body, is certainly no life accomplishment.  Maybe it gives some the illusion of achieving something, when in reality, it's really nothing more than the person makes it to be.
True story.

Does anybody know if steroids have mind altering qualities cos these people become full blown dellusionites instantly

They think they are  amazing superhuman beings, and superstars, and everybody envies them, and wants to be like them. But things couldn't be further from the truth.

Everyone knows they are all drugs and pitty the fools.All they are, are fucken junkies living a drug filled lie.

And to destroy your health over it, Takes one desperately unstable individual


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 11, 2009, 04:44:09 AM
It's so refreshing to know that Getbig is the still the same ol shit hole i left before. Full of keyboard gladiators that have never competed in anything but maybe the preliminaries of the Video game awards. Damn! Get off your asses and start competing in actual events that require more than an alien IQ...I have several degrees so dont go there with me...

Getbig just got better with your intelligent postings, please go on


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: local hero on December 11, 2009, 04:47:06 AM
its amazing how all these androgenated 'women' seem to have it all, kick ass fighting moves, various degrees and success that we'l never acheive!!!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 11, 2009, 04:47:42 AM
Society has always been fucked up. It's just might more noticable now due to population growth and mass media.

(http://nakedmaninthetree.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/world-population.JPG)

The world economy is doomed once increasing population competing for finite natural resources drives up their prices.

Are both of Luke Woods kidneys damaged?



Pfff.............did you know anything can be proved with grafs


(http://images.google.com.au/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/piratesarecool4.gif&usg=AFQjCNFyXJHZH9HAoRVBgYw9Nw2oH5UUzg)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 04:52:35 AM
Does anybody know if steroids have mind altering qualities cos these people become full blown dellusionites instantly

They think they are  amazing superhuman beings, and superstars, and everybody envies them, and wants to be like them. But things couldn't be further from the truth.

Everyone knows they are all drugs and pitty the fools.All they are, are fucken junkies living a drug filled lie.

And to destroy your health over it, Takes one desperately unstable individual
I don't know if the majority, would fit in this category.  However, the ones who place "worth" in taking drugs and lifting weights, are straight up silly.  The people who cycle up for that "next big show" have a warped sense of reality.  The "show" is just a reason for most to continue their drug habit and give it meaning, nothing more.  Many will pat each other on the back, and talk about how hard it is to go low carb and the dedication involved.
It's eating and lifting, simple.  A monkey can do it.
Most, are either too lazy or simply don't give a shit about working out.  Either are fine, just don't place more meaning in things, than what is really there.

Back to Luke Wood.
You wonder, who would smirk when something like this happens?
Well, in general, people don't like cheaters, shortcutters, liars, pretenders...a pro bb is some of all of those.  Just like when a big shot corporate executive gets busted for a white collar crime, others enjoy their misery.  Your first thought, this guy tried to get over, but now it caught up to him....oh well.

Again, this is nothing personal against Luke.  I'm sure he's a great guy and all, as everyone always is when this happens...actually, Tom Prince wasn't received like that...ahah
You don't wish harm to others, but when things go bad, sometimes you enjoy watching. ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 11, 2009, 05:04:11 AM
I don't know if the majority, would fit in this category.  However, the ones who place "worth" in taking drugs and lifting weights, are straight up silly.  The people who cycle up for that "next big show" have a warped sense of reality.  The "show" is just a reason for most to continue their drug habit and give it meaning, nothing more.  Many will pat each other on the back, and talk about how hard it is to go low carb and the dedication involved.
It's eating and lifting, simple.  A monkey can do it.
Most, are either too lazy or simply don't give a shit about working out.  Either are fine, just don't place more meaning in things, than what is really there.

Back to Luke Wood.
You wonder, who would smirk when something like this happens?
Well, in general, people don't like cheaters, shortcutters, liars, pretenders...a pro bb is some of all of those.  Just like when a big shot corporate executive gets busted for a white collar crime, others enjoy their misery.  Your first thought, this guy tried to get over, but now it caught up to him....oh well.

Again, this is nothing personal against Luke.  I'm sure he's a great guy and all, as everyone always is when this happens...actually, Tom Prince wasn't received like that...ahah
You don't wish harm to others, but when things go bad, sometimes you enjoy watching. ;)

It's not that anyone "enjoys" watching. It's that people make conscious decisions like using steroids.  Just like smoking........who the fuck feels sorry for some 70 year old who was a 30 year 2 pack a day smoker who gets lung cancer???????  Fucking come one!  I feel sorry and sympathize for that 35 year old woman who exercises and eats right only to find out she has ovarian cancer and has to have a hysterectomy and has to have her eggs frozen in two weeks in the hopes of someone will be a surrogate for her............the latter scenario is one in which a close friend is going through as I type this.  Fuck Luke Wood and feeling sorry for anyone in his situation.  He's a grown damn man.  Man the fuck up and handle your business is what he should be thinking. 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 05:09:13 AM
It's not that anyone "enjoys" watching. It's that people make conscious decisions like using steroids.  Just like smoking........who the fuck feels sorry for some 70 year old who was a 30 year 2 pack a day smoker who gets lung cancer???????  Fucking come one!  I feel sorry and sympathize for that 35 year old woman who exercises and eats right only to find out she has ovarian cancer and has to have a hysterectomy and has to have her eggs frozen in two weeks in the hopes of someone will be a surrogate for her............the latter scenario is one in which a close friend is going through as I type this.  Fuck Luke Wood and feeling sorry for anyone in his situation.  He's a grown damn man.  Man the fuck up and handle your business is what he should be thinking. 
No, I do enjoy watching others misfortunes.  Like when a hurricane or tornado go blasting off and they broadcast it on the news...mmmm, yummy.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 11, 2009, 05:19:17 AM
I don't know if the majority, would fit in this category.  However, the ones who place "worth" in taking drugs and lifting weights, are straight up silly.  The people who cycle up for that "next big show" have a warped sense of reality.  The "show" is just a reason for most to continue their drug habit and give it meaning, nothing more.  Many will pat each other on the back, and talk about how hard it is to go low carb and the dedication involved.
It's eating and lifting, simple.  A monkey can do it.
Most, are either too lazy or simply don't give a shit about working out.  Either are fine, just don't place more meaning in things, than what is really there.

Back to Luke Wood.
You wonder, who would smirk when something like this happens?
Well, in general, people don't like cheaters, shortcutters, liars, pretenders...a pro bb is some of all of those.  Just like when a big shot corporate executive gets busted for a white collar crime, others enjoy their misery.  Your first thought, this guy tried to get over, but now it caught up to him....oh well.

Again, this is nothing personal against Luke.  I'm sure he's a great guy and all, as everyone always is when this happens...actually, Tom Prince wasn't received like that...ahah
You don't wish harm to others, but when things go bad, sometimes you enjoy watching. ;)
Thankyou Yoda. Your a very wise man.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 05:37:55 AM
Have you heard of the STFU??? Go away you delusional old tart. No one gives a shit about your records with schmoes.

This thread is about how stupid Luke wood was to destroy his life and health.

Not about your insecurities and fears of the world, and forever living "THE WARRIOR LIFESTYLE" Bahaaaa.

I hope the guy does well but really have no clue who he even is and thought this thread was about Hank Wood.

That being said. Idiots here pretending steroid, diuretic, hGh, insulin abuse has no risks has just gotten too fucking old for me to even play along.

Of course there's some busted-faced chick trying to make the thread about her. SS is right when he says "Everyone's a cage fighter", LOL!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: XFACTOR on December 11, 2009, 05:45:16 AM
I think it's safe to say bodybuilders nowadays are melting their kidneys due to their drug abuse i.e. pain meds, diuretics and all the other stupid shit.  How can guys like Arnold, Haney, and TONS of others go through decades of BBing without needing a fucking kidney transplant.  How old is Luke Wood anyways?  30s?  Bodybuilders are fucking walking chemistry experiments nowadays.

Didn't arnold have triple bypass at 49?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: XFACTOR on December 11, 2009, 06:00:05 AM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness

 You sound like a real prize. I'd imagine you probably have to go outside to get something from your fridge, in addition to having a house that moves and 2 cars in front that don't.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: crownshep on December 11, 2009, 06:02:39 AM
Posted by Buff Goddess on the MMA board.Better watch out guys.

Why doesn't the UFC let women in??? We are just as competitive and hard hitting as the men! I myself have a record of 6-0 in boxing and am ready to try my hand at pro MMA... When you have someone of my caliber, why not let us in?? I will even go as far to say that I would battle a man to get my place. I have gone toe to toe with my ex boyfriend who weighed 100lbs more than me  and  my ex-husband who outweighed me by 75lbs, several times, and kicked their asses. My ex husband is Conner Black...Ask him if I'm a bad-ass... Google him, I'd be interested if he's still in prison for various violent crimes... My ex-boyfriend is Robert Lyle Edwards Jr, Both of these men can say I'm fully able to fight out of my weight class and win...Turn me loose in the UFC!!!! Do I care if they're pissed?  I'm now 175 and 15% bodyfat...and I'm still only 5'5"....I was 125lbs when I kicked their asses...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 06:05:34 AM
Posted by Buff Goddess on the MMA board.Better watch out guys.

Why doesn't the UFC let women in??? We are just as competitive and hard hitting as the men! I myself have a record of 6-0 in boxing and am ready to try my hand at pro MMA... When you have someone of my caliber, why not let us in?? I will even go as far to say that I would battle a man to get my place. I have gone toe to toe with my ex boyfriend who weighed 100lbs more than me  and  my ex-husband who outweighed me by 75lbs, several times, and kicked their asses. My ex husband is Conner Black...Ask him if I'm a bad-ass... Google him, I'd be interested if he's still in prison for various violent crimes... My ex-boyfriend is Robert Lyle Edwards Jr, Both of these men can say I'm fully able to fight out of my weight class and win...Turn me loose in the UFC!!!! Do I care if they're pissed?  I'm now 175 and 15% bodyfat...and I'm still only 5'5"....I was 125lbs when I kicked their asses...

Maybe there's a drug test for the UFC.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 06:08:30 AM
Maybe Luke will heed this final(!?) warning. BBing is just not for him.  :-\ 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: spinnis on December 11, 2009, 06:10:20 AM
Maybe Luke will heed this final(!?) warning. BBing is just not for him.  :-\ 

r maby he will pull a don long?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 06:12:44 AM
Maybe Luke will heed this final(!?) warning. BBing is just not for him.  :-\ 

It's unlikely he or anyone else will learn from this. That isn't the way things work.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 11, 2009, 06:13:47 AM
did Luke think there wouldn't be health consequences ?  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:14:28 AM
Open invitation to any guy that thinks he can take me: Call Next Level and ask to schedule our fight ASK FOR Greg Thompson for mat time, he'll let me know. Don't be perturbed if he laughs at you...Anyone else, if you can't back it up,shut the fuck up....

who gives a shit about you,, thread is about luke wood


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 11, 2009, 06:17:31 AM
It's unlikely he or anyone else will learn from this. That isn't the way things work.

You may have a point. I can't think of any bodybuilder who let a life threatening condition or illness prevent him from trying to make a comeback later on. Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Dennis Newman etc.

There's Tom Prince, but maybe his condition was a lot more severe.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:22:20 AM
You may have a point. I can't think of any bodybuilder who let a life threatening condition or illness prevent him from trying to make a comeback later on. Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Dennis Newman etc.

There's Tom Prince, but maybe his condition was a lot more severe.

the more important aspect is can it make youngsters think about what they are doing? in many cases sadly no...its always: 'it wont happen to me'....and people who get into competitive bodybuilding are almost always mentally very fucked from the beginning.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: spinnis on December 11, 2009, 06:23:11 AM
You may have a point. I can't think of any bodybuilder who let a life threatening condition or illness prevent him from trying to make a comeback later on. Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Dennis Newman etc.

There's Tom Prince, but maybe his condition was a lot more severe.

dont forget kris dim, the biggest tard of them all


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 06:23:23 AM
You may have a point. I can't think of any bodybuilder who let a life threatening condition or illness prevent him from trying to make a comeback later on. Flex Wheeler, Don Long, Dennis Newman etc.

There's Tom Prince, but maybe his condition was a lot more severe.

Come back to what? G4P!? :)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Rearden Metal on December 11, 2009, 06:24:56 AM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

What are you gonna do when you get shot in the fucking head? Read Naked Choke on that, DUDE. Oh, and I've competed and had my day, and I say that the drug game is STUPID.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 11, 2009, 06:25:48 AM
I don't know if the majority, would fit in this category.  However, the ones who place "worth" in taking drugs and lifting weights, are straight up silly.  The people who cycle up for that "next big show" have a warped sense of reality.  The "show" is just a reason for most to continue their drug habit and give it meaning, nothing more.  Many will pat each other on the back, and talk about how hard it is to go low carb and the dedication involved.
It's eating and lifting, simple.  A monkey can do it.
Most, are either too lazy or simply don't give a shit about working out.  Either are fine, just don't place more meaning in things, than what is really there.

Back to Luke Wood.
You wonder, who would smirk when something like this happens?
Well, in general, people don't like cheaters, shortcutters, liars, pretenders...a pro bb is some of all of those.  Just like when a big shot corporate executive gets busted for a white collar crime, others enjoy their misery.  Your first thought, this guy tried to get over, but now it caught up to him....oh well.

Again, this is nothing personal against Luke.  I'm sure he's a great guy and all, as everyone always is when this happens...actually, Tom Prince wasn't received like that...ahah
You don't wish harm to others, but when things go bad, sometimes you enjoy watching. ;)
You admitted to taking juice.  You lend zero credibility to your anti-steroid campaign of rambling nonsense sorta like Tiger Woods being the new spokesperson for adultery


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: no one on December 11, 2009, 06:28:58 AM
Another DUMBASS,,, Have you heard of UFC??? Have you heard they'll have a heavy weight division soon for women? have you heard I have a 6-0 record? Step up and make it 7-0..I'm 6-0 in boxing, 4-2 in Tai Kwon Do,  Don't be a retard, just concede defeat and call your stupid beagles off.. Just a suggestion


ahahahahahahaha

bitch please.

you're 160 pounds. i took a dump this morning bigger than you.

you hitting me would be like King Kong getting bit by a mosquito, until i crushed you with my thumb and wiped you on the leg of my jeans.

stick to schmoe wrestling.





Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:29:10 AM
You admitted to taking juice.  You lend zero credibility to your anti-steroid campaign of rambling nonsense sorta like Tiger Woods being the new spokesperson for adultery

a kid who made a mistake isnt the same as years of abuse


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 11, 2009, 06:31:21 AM
the more important aspect is can it make youngsters think about what they are doing? in many cases sadly no...its always: 'it wont happen to me'....and people who get into competitive bodybuilding are almost always mentally very fucked from the beginning.

I suppose you have to be an extreme personality to become a pro in the first place, assuming you've got the genetics and drive and everything else for it. Old habits die hard and I'm sure the attention they get when they're huge is something they miss terribly when they have to go off the juice due to whatever reason. Which is probably why they'd rather risk their health again than live with the void that's created when that suit of muscle they had disappears.

And Swede, yes, Kris Dim definitely belongs on that list, lol.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 11, 2009, 06:33:46 AM
Come back to what? G4P!? :)

There'd be no comebacks if they asked themselves that question in the first place, lol.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 06:34:23 AM
I suppose you have to be an extreme personality to become a pro in the first place, assuming you've got the genetics and drive and everything else for it. Old habits die hard and I'm sure the attention they get when they're huge is something they miss terribly when they have to go off the juice due to whatever reason. Which is probably why they'd rather risk their health again than live with the void that's created when that suit of muscle they had disappears.

And Swede, yes, Kris Dim definitely belongs on that list, lol.
HugeNasser on line one, kiwi.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 06:36:00 AM
There'd be no comebacks if they asked themselves that question in the first place, lol.

Kiwi,

Are you saying it's gender identity crisis that drives steroid abuse instead of low self esteem?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 06:38:24 AM
You admitted to taking juice.  You lend zero credibility to your anti-steroid campaign of rambling nonsense sorta like Tiger Woods being the new spokesperson for adultery
You're comparing a burnout of 40 years, to a kid who tried weed in high school.
Two different ends of the spectrum chief.

Secondly, I'm not against steroids.  That would be like taking a stand against alcohol.
How can you be against a drug...it's the fools who ingest them.  You can try something, see the holes in the logic, then condemn those who use them.  I do it all the time...haha ;D
That's how it works.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 06:46:30 AM
I suppose you have to be an extreme personality to become a pro in the first place, assuming you've got the genetics and drive and everything else for it. Old habits die hard and I'm sure the attention they get when they're huge is something they miss terribly when they have to go off the juice due to whatever reason. Which is probably why they'd rather risk their health again than live with the void that's created when that suit of muscle they had disappears.

And Swede, yes, Kris Dim definitely belongs on that list, lol.
Yes, Dim would be just another little Asian man off the sauce.  Forget that, stay jacked for another 7 years, then die.  That's the spirit! haha


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 06:47:27 AM
so, buffgoddess, are we gonna do this schmoe session/prostate massage MMA fight or what?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:49:05 AM
so, buffgoddess, are we gonna do this schmoe session/prostate massage MMA fight or what?
you related to johhny 600?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 11, 2009, 06:51:14 AM
You're comparing a burnout of 40 years, to a kid who tried weed in high school.
Two different ends of the spectrum chief.

Secondly, I'm not against steroids.  That would be like taking a stand against alcohol.
How can you be against a drug...it's the fools who ingest them.  You can try something, see the holes in the logic, then condemn those who use them.  I do it all the time...haha ;D
That's how it works.
But once a user you still are no better than anyone you discredit.  Your lumped in with the juicers anyway you look at it


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 06:52:43 AM
where's chick to say that luke wood doesn't need a new kidney because of aas abuse..he probably had a previous medical condition...epic burying head in the sand..


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:53:04 AM
But once a user you still are no better than anyone you discredit.  Your lumped in with the juicers anyway you look at it

no,, there is a huge difference between running your health into the ground for  a plastic trophy and attention and doing a cycle a as a kid


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 06:53:37 AM
you related to johhny 600?

I only wish

then, I would have a robo-penis



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 06:54:07 AM
I only wish

then, I would have a robo-penis



 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 06:54:43 AM
My son was in Afghanistan a 2 tours of Iraq, and as mother, all I could do is pray my son came home. So don't give me your bullshit, I was in agony for 4 years, wonde3ring if my baby boy would come home. Fuck you! I know all about sacrifice, battle and winning..



oh yeah..forgot...you were the only one with family fighting...




Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 06:55:44 AM
But once a user you still are no better than anyone you discredit.  Your lumped in with the juicers anyway you look at it
No, I don't subscribe to that point of view.  I don't view someone who had a cigarette before, with a smoker of 10 years.
You however, can put me in a any group you choose.
I do the same.  That's the beauty of having your own mind, isn't it.
You go here, but don't fit there.  This guy is a fool, he's a douchebag, he's ok.
In the end, it's just your opinion...but your opinion is wrong.
 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Krankenstein on December 11, 2009, 06:56:19 AM
Another DUMBASS,,, Have you heard of UFC??? Have you heard they'll have a heavy weight division soon for women? have you heard I have a 6-0 record? Step up and make it 7-0..I'm 6-0 in boxing, 4-2 in Tai Kwon Do,  Don't be a retard, just concede defeat and call your stupid beagles off.. Just a suggestion


Real name and organizations where these 'records' are?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 07:00:13 AM
to buff goddess,

take note

whenever you're gonna attempt to impress us with your fighting prowess, it would be a good idea to spell "Tae Kwon Do" correctly

Btw, who brags about their "Tae Kwon Do" record anyway- what are you, a twelve year old?

sincerly and fuck you
the rest of Getbig


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 11, 2009, 07:00:29 AM
Christ!!! buffgoddess is dropping names like A-bombs. Id hate to see this pathetic old hag. bruised and battered,always talking tough wanting to choke every man and his dog out. real class act!!!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 11, 2009, 07:00:38 AM
No, I don't subscribe to that point of view.  I don't view someone who had a cigarette before, with a smoker of 10 years.
You however, can put me in a any group you choose.
I do the same.  That's the beauty of having your own mind, isn't it.
You go here, but don't fit there.  This guy is a fool, he's a douchebag, he's ok.
In the end, it's just your opinion...but your opinion is wrong.
 ;D
DENIAL   once a juicer always a juicer.  Walking around with blinders on regarding your own situation but then screaming about being anti-steroid.   Hypocrite maybe?   Just becuz the years have gone by doesnt save you from using that needle 16 years ago.  Time will never cleanse your soul


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Krankenstein on December 11, 2009, 07:01:38 AM
Another DUMBASS,,, Have you heard of UFC??? Have you heard they'll have a heavy weight division soon for women? have you heard I have a 6-0 record? Step up and make it 7-0..I'm 6-0 in boxing, 4-2 in Tai Kwon Do,  Don't be a retard, just concede defeat and call your stupid beagles off.. Just a suggestion


P.S.  If you are so bad-ass.....take it to Thailand and see how many of those girls you run through.  I doubt you make it far....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:08:28 AM
some one post those heavenly pics of buffgoddess...all you getbiggers will bow down to her beauty.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:10:44 AM
where's chick to say that luke wood doesn't need a new kidney because of aas abuse..he probably had a previous medical condition...epic burying head in the sand..

I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 07:15:44 AM
DENIAL   once a juicer always a juicer.  Walking around with blinders on regarding your own situation but then screaming about being anti-steroid.   Hypocrite maybe?   Just becuz the years have gone by doesnt save you from using that needle 16 years ago.  Time will never cleanse your soul
Sure thing.  Whatever makes you feel better sparky.
Again, it's not anti-steroid, it's the fools who take them and more so, need drugs to make it to the gym.
The current state of gyms today, is pathetic.

Yeah, once a juicer...for 2 months in 1994.  You keep holding on to that one.  Don't forget, I used to smoke weed back in 93' too.
Once a stoner..., guess I'm just a burn out today.

You need to work on your own philosophies and not a cheesy cleshay.  Next thing you know, you'll be quoting "What happens on getbig, stays on getbig." ::)
Have some original thought.  It probably won't be too insightful, but at least it'll be your own.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:17:50 AM
is this the buffgoddess we are talking to?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 07:18:23 AM
I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".
Why the constant abuse of painkillers for heavy juice addicts Chick?  We all have aches and pains.  Is it from the intense G4P sessions?  I thought the colon expanded naturally?
Joke aside, why the painkiller abuse then...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: spinnis on December 11, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
Sure thing.  Whatever makes you feel better sparky.
Again, it's not anti-steroid, it's the fools who take them and more so, need drugs to make it to the gym.
The current state of gyms today, is pathetic.

Yeah, once a juicer...for 2 months in 1994.  You keep holding on to that one.  Don't forget, I used to smoke weed back in 93' too.
Once a stoner..., guess I'm just a burn out today.

You need to work on your own philosophies and not a cheesy cleshay.  Next thing you know, you'll be quoting "What happens on getbig, stays on getbig." ::)
Have some original thought.  It probably won't be too insightful, but at least it'll be your own.



oh brother  ::)





 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 07:19:27 AM
is this the buffgoddess we are talking to?
Oh please, tell me you're joking.  Isn't she a former tranny Gladiator or something?  I don't think that's her.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 07:19:36 AM
I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".

does it matter in this case ? AAS puts stress on your system and its most likely a combination effect of the various drugs luke took. yes some drugs have more acute effects than others but the whole lifestyle isnt healthy.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 07:19:48 AM
I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".

You're really gonna argue increased blood pressure from AAS abuse doesn't affect kidney function with a straight face? :)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 07:20:01 AM
oh brother  ::)





 ;D
Oh brother...


Not this shit again.
FIXED ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: affy on December 11, 2009, 07:20:21 AM
is this the buffgoddess we are talking to?


looks like palumbo's face glued onto a polio ridden t-rex's body


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
is this the buffgoddess we are talking to?

thats a man so much drugs tummy fat is same as on a man . male fat deposit pattern


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: BayGBM on December 11, 2009, 07:22:12 AM
I just got off the phone to Luke, he is well considering what he has been through.

About three months ago he was told the worst and was looking at dialysis and perhaps a kidney transplant.

He has had dozens of blood test and luckily his levels have stabilised for now and he has not needed to start treatment at this stage.

He is on a very  low protein diet and after a few months out of the gym is back training.

He took it pretty hard and when I saw him in October was pretty ordinary. We spoke about the importance of perspective and the irony of hindsight. Luke had an amazing ride and became one of the best in the world at what he loved. Unfortunately, for a whole lot of reasons, he burnt out.

He has retired from pro bodybuilding and is looking forward to getting on with the rest of his life. He is a gentleman and kind person, I wish him every success from this point forward.

I told Luke that we liked him cause he was a good guy, not because he has big muscles.

Luke has been a great supporter of my pro contests, TV shows and gyms. He has always been the first to send congratulations when my 4 kids were born.

Good luck Luke.

As for everyone here, please take it easy it is bad karma to kick someone when they are down.

TD.


A lovely sentiment... but is it true? ???


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:22:42 AM
Why the constant abuse of painkillers for heavy juice addicts Chick?  We all have aches and pains.  Is it from the intense G4P sessions?  I thought the colon expanded naturally?
Joke aside, why the painkiller abuse then...


NUBAIN is the main cause.....Why use it?  I really dont know the answer to that question...always seemed strange to me as well, then again, so does getting drunk. I never even heard of it until I moved to LA back in 01, and when it was explained to me what it was...my next question was "So why use it?"

All I know is, its bad news



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: kiwiol on December 11, 2009, 07:24:30 AM
is this the buffgoddess we are talking to?

That is her, yes.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:25:31 AM
I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".


typical chick response...this is his response to everything...you are ignorant, i know better...you are fool.  

pain killers...right.  that leads to kidney failure..and abusing AAS has nothing to do with it...who sounds ignorant now bob?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:26:35 AM
You're really gonna argue increased blood pressure from AAS abuse doesn't affect kidney function with a straight face? :)

I didnt mention blood pressure, and it may effect it TO A POINT...but the damage inflicted by Nubain, Advil, Ibuprofin, etc., isnt even measureable to be compared. As I''ve said many times...it's the combination thats the main problem...stress from training, stress from hypertention, stress from too much protein, and stress from pain killers...add in the riggors of contest dieting and throw in a few diuretics, and it doesnt add up to a good situation.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: zwide on December 11, 2009, 07:26:55 AM
Open invitation to any guy that thinks he can take me: Call Next Level and ask to schedule our fight ASK FOR Greg Thompson for mat time, he'll let me know. Don't be perturbed if he laughs at you...Anyone else, if you can't back it up,shut the fuck up....

Seriously  ::)  ::) get the hint - you starting to sound very retarded and whatever self respect you had before is disappearing with everypost - you sound like a child looking for attention - :-\


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:27:56 AM

typical chick response...this is his response to everything...you are ignorant, i know better...you are fool.  

pain killers...right.  that leads to kidney failure..and abusing AAS has nothing to do with it...who sounds ignorant now bob?

LOL...you're too stupid to even respond to...do some homework, son...and get back to us


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 07:30:21 AM
NUBAIN is the main cause.....Why use it?  I really dont know the answer to that question...always seemed strange to me as well, then again, so does getting drunk. I never even heard of it until I moved to LA back in 01, and when it was explained to me what it was...my next question was "So why use it?"

All I know is, its bad news



Are you saying Nubain is kidney toxic? It wasn't mentioned once by TP as far as I can remember.

Are you saying Luke is a Nubain addict?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:30:40 AM
LOL...you're too stupid to even respond to...do some homework, son...and get back to us


hehe...yeah, bob..forgot..you graduated from what medical school?

is that all you have? you are too stupid to even respond to...yet you confirmed exactly what i said in my previous post...you disguised by saying stress from training..stress from diuretics...too much protein..but you won't say AAS---you just can't bring yourself to admit it.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Sir Humphrey on December 11, 2009, 07:32:34 AM
Sad that this should happen to Luke. I remember when he appeared on the scene earlier this decade, becoming a pro and moving from Australia to compete in the USA. He always looked huge and jacked. I remember also when he used to Train with Hide, Flex Lewis, and Milos at the latter's gym.

Surely he must have been doing something else all along that contributed to his kidneys/health failing faster than those other guys. You can tell they went head to head when it came to anabolics.

Shame it should happen to such a nice young bloke who was always friendly and helpful on the forums.  :(


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:35:13 AM

hehe...yeah, bob..forgot..you graduated from what medical school?

is that all you have? you are too stupid to even respond to...yet you confirmed exactly what i said in my previous post...you disguised by saying stress from training..stress from diuretics...too much protein..but you won't say AAS---you just can't bring yourself to admit it.

Guys have been blasting steroids for decades...you never heard of any kidney problems until fairly recently...when diuretics, pain killers, etc were starting to become part of the program...I'm sure AAS dont help, but to make them the sole problem is just being ignorant (as you are)



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 07:35:46 AM
I didnt mention blood pressure, and it may effect it TO A POINT...but the damage inflicted by Nubain, Advil, Ibuprofin, etc., isnt even measureable to be compared. As I''ve said many times...it's the combination thats the main problem...stress from training, stress from hypertention, stress from too much protein, and stress from pain killers...add in the riggors of contest dieting and throw in a few diuretics, and it doesnt add up to a good situation.

Prolonged high blood pressure affects renal function.

I'm not suggesting you (or anyone else) waste time doing homework because it won't make a difference in people's usage.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: buffdnet on December 11, 2009, 07:36:08 AM
just like chick to rush over and attempt cover for his
fellow drug addicted felons


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 07:36:10 AM
Luke's a cool guy, no one deserves this.

but someone who did it to himself.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:36:33 AM
Are you saying Nubain is kidney toxic? It wasn't mentioned once by TP as far as I can remember.

Are you saying Luke is a Nubain addict?

I wouldnt know what Luke was doing...why would you suggest that I do?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:36:54 AM
sticks and stones bobby...

yeah, wtf...even if medical studies show kidney issues arise with AAS.  Why listen to that shit..WTF does the medical community know...and i'm the ignorant one.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:37:25 AM
just like chick to rush over and attempt cover for his
fellow drug addicted felons

Where do you see any cover?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: SGT BARNES on December 11, 2009, 07:39:19 AM
It's so refreshing to know that Getbig is the still the same ol shit hole i left before. Full of keyboard gladiators that have never competed in anything but maybe the preliminaries of the Video game awards. Damn! Get off your asses and start competing in actual events that require more than an alien IQ...I have several degrees so dont go there with me...

you are the only one barking out gladiatorial bullshit here. go clean the sand from your girl. or maybe get your buck tooth GI son to do it.

I asked about you with people who know. your another mma wannabeeeee. maybe ill visit your little wannabee gym soon.

6-0 hahaha (*dismissive wank*)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Croatch on December 11, 2009, 07:40:20 AM
Where do you see any cover?
I liked that article where you said all the competitors were subjected to random drug testing.
That had me on the floor laughing...haah
Random=1 test per 20 years
Shawn Ray being the last one tested..haha
 ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
why single out AAS in this case? bodybuilding on pro level is a state of constant sickness due to all the shit that is done to the body.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 07:40:42 AM
I wouldnt know what Luke was doing...why would you suggest that I do?

I didn't know if you were talking generally, about TP, about Luke, or what.
Sounded like you blamed all bb kidney problems on painkillers, Nubain specifically (which isn't kidney toxic as far as I know, but could be wrong).


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Sir Humphrey on December 11, 2009, 07:43:02 AM
Chick is probably right on this one. Bodybuilders have been using very high dosages of anabolics for decades now, but the kidney problems are more recent.

I'm not claiming steroids don't cause increased blood pressure which is harsh on the kidneys, but their role alone pales in comparison to the combination of steroids, the rigours of contest prep (diuretics, extreme dehydration, cutting drugs) and abusing pain meds.

Flex Wheeler himself said in an interview many years ago that it was the diuretics that were harshest, sending him many times in pain and agony to the emergency room. The crazy conditioning demanded by judges, and the willingness of competitors to go along with them, are to blame for this.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:43:59 AM
I didn't know if you were talking generally, about TP, about Luke, or what.
Sounded like you blamed all bb kidney problems on painkillers, Nubain specifically (which isn't kidney toxic as far as I know, but could be wrong).

Nubain isnt toxic to the kidneys???  are you joking?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 07:45:34 AM
Open invitation to any guy that thinks he can take me: Call Next Level and ask to schedule our fight ASK FOR Greg Thompson for mat time, he'll let me know. Don't be perturbed if he laughs at you...Anyone else, if you can't back it up,shut the fuck up....

hey "girl", you should lower your testosterone intakes...its taking a toll on your mental health. BTW why did you hijack the whole thread with your pathetic aggressivity and details about your insignificant and uterly vain life? The thread's about a "pro" who lost his kidney in th epursuit of a 3 $ plastic trophy.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:50:12 AM
Chick is probably right on this one. Bodybuilders have been using very high dosages of anabolics for decades now, but the kidney problems are more recent.

I'm not claiming steroids don't cause increased blood pressure which is harsh on the kidneys, but their role alone pales in comparison to the combination of steroids, the rigours of contest prep (diuretics, extreme dehydration, cutting drugs) and abusing pain meds.

Flex Wheeler himself said in an interview many years ago that it was the diuretics that were harshest, sending him many times in pain and agony to the emergency room. The crazy conditioning demanded by judges, and the willingness of competitors to go along with them, are to blame for this.


no, its the ignorance on the part of the bodybuilders that is to blame for this...

how do you suppose chick is right about this one? what part of chick's research backs his claim that AAS has nothing to do with organ breakdown in these guys? please..stop the BS.  I'm sure all who uses would like to believe that pumping their body full of these drugs isn't going to affect them in the long run but i trust medical science a bit more than i trust bob's library full of ''knowledge''.  Believe what you want..but just because Flex says so doesn't make it so...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jr on December 11, 2009, 07:50:40 AM
It's just a kidney, it will grow back.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:51:42 AM

no, its the ignorance on the part of the bodybuilders that is to blame for this...

how do you suppose chick is right about this one? what part of chick's research backs his claim that AAS has nothing to do with organ breakdown in these guys? please..stop the BS.  I'm sure all who uses would like to believe that pumping their body full of these drugs isn't going to affect them in the long run but i trust medical science a bit more than i trust bob's library full of ''knowledge''.  Believe what you want..but just because Flex says so doesn't make it so...

So its your contention that ONLY AAS is responsible, and none of the painkeilers, etc mentioned had anything to do with it, right??


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 07:53:23 AM
So its your contention that ONLY AAS is responsible, and none of the painkeilers, etc mentioned had anything to do with it, right??


No, that's my contention.  I just don't buy that its just pain killers and diuretics that cause organ damage...and that if they just used AAS they'd be ok.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 07:53:50 AM
Chemistry/Pharmacology:
Nalbuphine hydrochloride (Nubain®) is classified as a synthetic opioid agonist-antagonist. Chemically, it is related to the opioid antagonist, naloxone and the potent opioid agonist oxymorphone. The chemical name for nalbuphine is 17-(cyclobutylmethyl)-4,5α  -epoxymorphinan-3,6 α , 14-triol hydrochloride. It is soluble in water and ethanol and available only as an injectable solution.

Nalbuphine is a potent analgesic. Its analgesic potency is essentially equivalent to morphine. It binds to mu, kappa, and delta opioid receptors. Nalbuphine is metabolized by the liver and excreted by the kidneys.

Illicit Uses:
As an injectable formulation, nalbuphine is primarily used in hospitals and rarely prescribed by physicians compared to other opioid analgesics. In addition, as a drug of abuse it is less attractive as a substitute by heroin addicts or highly tolerant opioid abusers due to its potent antagonist effects. Nalbuphine is ten times more potent than pentazocine as an antagonist and will precipitate withdrawal in an opiate–tolerant individual. A limited number of anecdotal reports suggest that nalbuphine is abused by health care professionals and by body builders (anabolic steroid users).

-from DEA


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: CalvinH on December 11, 2009, 07:54:46 AM
That's not a post made by Berzerkfury about you



True,BF would of said the stripper was mooching off him.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 07:55:20 AM
Nubain isnt toxic to the kidneys???  are you joking?

Not in the least. If it's so toxic why doesn't the PDR mention it? It sure mentions how toxic Advil is.

Edit: before some moron says I'm somehow saying using Nubain is a good thing; that's not what I'm saying. Narcotics will fuck you up. Only talking about the organ toxicity.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 07:55:38 AM
I can all but guarantee you that AAS had zero to do with failing kidneys...If you took 2 minutes to do some homewrk, you might know that as well.

PAIN KILLERS...look it up,fool...


being ignorant only backs up "burying your head in the sand".

Washington, octobre 30, 2009
Using steroids for bodybuilding can damage kidney function

Quote
Anabolic steroids, taken by some athletes to gain muscle mass and strength, can destroy kidney function, says a new study.

The study revealed that the habitual use of steroids has serious harmful effects on the kidneys that were not previously recognized.

Leal Herlitz, MD (Columbia University Medical Center) and her colleagues recently conducted a study describing injury to the kidneys following long-term abuse of anabolic steroids.

The researchers studied a group of 10 bodybuilders who used steroids for many years and developed protein leakage into the urine and severe reductions in kidney function. Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe.

When bodybuilders discontinued steroid use their kidney abnormalities improved, with the exception of one individual with advanced kidney disease who developed end-stage kidney failure and required dialysis. Also, one of the bodybuilders started taking steroids again and suffered a relapse of severe kidney dysfunction.  (  ;D  )

The researchers propose that extreme increases in muscle mass require the kidneys to increase their filtration rate, placing harmful levels of stress on these organs. It’s also likely that steroids have direct toxic effects on the kidneys. “Athletes who use anabolic steroids and the doctors caring for them need to be aware of the potentially serious risks to the kidney,” said Dr. Herlitz.

The study has been presented at the American Society of Nephrology’s 42nd Annual Meeting and Scientific Exposition in San Diego, CA.

Keywords: Anabolic steroids, harmful effects, protein leakage, kidney function, dialysis, medical research, health



 ::)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 07:56:24 AM
Chemistry/Pharmacology:
Nalbuphine hydrochloride (Nubain®) is classified as a synthetic opioid agonist-antagonist. Chemically, it is related to the opioid antagonist, naloxone and the potent opioid agonist oxymorphone. The chemical name for nalbuphine is 17-(cyclobutylmethyl)-4,5α  -epoxymorphinan-3,6 α , 14-triol hydrochloride. It is soluble in water and ethanol and available only as an injectable solution.

Nalbuphine is a potent analgesic. Its analgesic potency is essentially equivalent to morphine. It binds to mu, kappa, and delta opioid receptors. Nalbuphine is metabolized by the liver and excreted by the kidneys.

Illicit Uses:
As an injectable formulation, nalbuphine is primarily used in hospitals and rarely prescribed by physicians compared to other opioid analgesics. In addition, as a drug of abuse it is less attractive as a substitute by heroin addicts or highly tolerant opioid abusers due to its potent antagonist effects. Nalbuphine is ten times more potent than pentazocine as an antagonist and will precipitate withdrawal in an opiate–tolerant individual. A limited number of anecdotal reports suggest that nalbuphine is abused by health care professionals and by body builders (anabolic steroid users).

-from DEA



BINGO


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Smokincrazy on December 11, 2009, 07:57:41 AM
Sure thing.  Whatever makes you feel better sparky.
Again, it's not anti-steroid, it's the fools who take them and more so, need drugs to make it to the gym.
The current state of gyms today, is pathetic.

Yeah, once a juicer...for 2 months in 1994.  You keep holding on to that one.  Don't forget, I used to smoke weed back in 93' too.
Once a stoner..., guess I'm just a burn out today.

You need to work on your own philosophies and not a cheesy cleshay.  Next thing you know, you'll be quoting "What happens on getbig, stays on getbig." ::)
Have some original thought.  It probably won't be too insightful, but at least it'll be your own.


Banging the steroid drum has gotten old my friend.  Dont hate on guys at the gym because they juice.  You know what it feels like.  Dont act hollier than the next because you discontinued usage.  Your school assembly message needs work


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 08:01:08 AM
most of the time the "knowledge" these monkeys have about steroids is that "Dit make mah musles get biga HUH" and that it will allow em to keep on preying on women with low self esteem or schmoes to support their "lifestyle" , the only people who are in "awe" of their unhealthy and stupid looking bodies...

Please "chick", dont try to lure us into believing "bodybuilders" are rocket scientists when it comes to manipulating and ingesting anabolic steroids and other posing oils...

99,99999% of the general public when seeing a steroid abuser think "what is he trying to compensate for, a small penis / being bald or being short (or both 3)?"





Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:02:06 AM
Not in the least. If it's so toxic why doesn't the PDR mention it? It sure mentions how toxic Advil is.

Edit: before some moron says I'm somehow saying using Nubain is a good thing; that's not what I'm saying. Narcotics will fuck you up. Only talking about the organ toxicity.

See the text above:


Nubain is 1 molecule away from Heroin...If you believe an over the counter oral Advil is toxic, what do you think a prescription only, injectable painkiller akin to morphine and 10X more potent does??




Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jr on December 11, 2009, 08:02:55 AM

"Nalbuphine is ten times more potent than pentazocine as an antagonist and will precipitate withdrawal in an opiate–tolerant individual."

BINGO

This means nubain is ten times more potent than pentazocine at blocking the opiate receptor.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 08:05:11 AM
Banging the steroid drum has gotten old my friend.  Dont hate on guys at the gym because they juice.  You know what it feels like.  Dont act hollier than the next because you discontinued usage.  Your school assembly message needs work
LOL. Jerri Blank?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6epnDpt0Qg


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:05:39 AM
and you figure thats a good thing?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 08:06:02 AM
See the text below:


Nubain is 1 molecule away from Heroin...If you believe an over the counter oral Advil is toxic, what do you think a prescription only, injectable painkiller akin to morphine and 10X more potent does??




You're confusing potency with toxicity, Chick.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 08:06:43 AM
See the text below:


Nubain is 1 molecule away from Heroin...If you believe an over the counter oral Advil is toxic, what do you think a prescription only, injectable painkiller akin to morphine and 10X more potent does??




Chick, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous reasoning. Let me tell you something you won't believe: heroin and morphine aren't very toxic either. They will fuck you up in other ways, but won't give you liver or kidney failure quickly like Advil will when overdosed. Just because something is OTC or not says nothing about whether it's toxic to a specific organ.

You're confusing potency with toxicity, Chick.

Advil and Nubain don't even work through the same mechanisms. Advil isn't Nubain Lite.  :D
Can't even compare potency since Nubain isn't an anti-inflammatory.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: hairyB07 on December 11, 2009, 08:07:25 AM
so in regards to luke wood...how many has milos almost killed now??

all pictures of luke before going to the koloseum gym were crazy!!
not so bad upon first entering the koloseum for about a good year.
and then just more and more down hill the more he was with milos.......


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 08:09:34 AM
so in regards to luke wood...how many has milos almost killed now??

all pictures of luke before going to the koloseum gym were crazy!!
not so bad upon first entering the koloseum for about a good year.
and then just more and more down hill the more he was with milos.......
crazy, that's the word..


it's always fun until someone loses an eye...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:10:32 AM
This means nubain is ten times more potent than pentazocine at blocking the opiate receptor.

Which basically means that its MORE addictive and causes bigger withdrawl symptoms


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 08:12:04 AM
again, this thread isnt going to end well for "chick".


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 08:13:17 AM
Which basically means that its MORE addictive and causes bigger withdrawl symptoms

It says blocking, Chick.  ;)

Shooting Nubain will put an opiate addict into immediate withdrawal. Not afterward, immediately.

Again, narcotics are bad news all around, no argument there.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:13:38 AM
Chick, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous reasoning. Let me tell you something you won't believe: heroin and morphine aren't very toxic either. They will fuck you up in other ways, but won't give you liver or kidney failure quickly like Advil will when overdosed. Just because something is OTC or not says nothing about whether it's toxic to a specific organ.

Advil and Nubain don't even work through the same mechanisms. Advil isn't Nubain Lite.  :D
Can't even compare potency since Nubain isn't an anti-inflammatory.


Saying it's OTC was only to illustrate the point...not quite sure I agree with the rest of your synapsis. I know at least 4 BBers who were hooked on Nubain, all of which have had kidney failure


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:15:16 AM
It says blocking, Chick.  ;)

Shooting Nubain will put an opiate addict into immediate withdrawal. Not afterward, immediately.

Again, narcotics bad news all around, no argument there.

Which translates into having to do it on a continuous basis...which makes it LESS potent in your opinion?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tre on December 11, 2009, 08:17:14 AM

Damn, this sucks.

Wishing you all the best, Luke.  I hope you can get that transplant quickly and move smoothly into the next phase of your life. 



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: musclecenter on December 11, 2009, 08:18:25 AM
Luke is a very nice humble guy,when we both were invited to guestposing in Japan 2006.
Hopefully you guys show compassion for him.  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 08:21:10 AM
Which translates into having to do it on a continuous basis...which makes it LESS potent in your opinion?

These are just nerdy technical details which you're not really interested in I'm sure. The part you bolded didn't mean what you thought is all. But yes it's addictive.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:22:02 AM
Chick, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous reasoning. Let me tell you something you won't believe: heroin and morphine aren't very toxic either. They will fuck you up in other ways, but won't give you liver or kidney failure quickly like Advil will when overdosed. Just because something is OTC or not says nothing about whether it's toxic to a specific organ.

Advil and Nubain don't even work through the same mechanisms. Advil isn't Nubain Lite.  :D
Can't even compare potency since Nubain isn't an anti-inflammatory.



Here are some more "nerdy technical details"...


For intravenous users of heroin (and any other substance), the use of non-sterile needles and syringes and other related equipment leads to several serious risks:
the risk of contracting blood-borne pathogens such as HIV and hepatitis
the risk of contracting bacterial or fungal endocarditis and possibly venous sclerosis
abscesses
Poisoning from contaminants added to "cut" or dilute heroin
Chronic constipation
Addiction and increasing tolerance
Physical dependence can result from prolonged use of all opioids, resulting in withdrawal symptoms on cessation of use
Decreased kidney function (although it is not currently known if this is due to adulterants or infectious diseases)[40]



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 08:23:05 AM
These are just nerdy technical details which you're not really interested in I'm sure. The part you bolded didn't mean what you thought is all. But yes it's addictive.

LOL @ the blocking part.    ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 11, 2009, 08:23:50 AM
Luke is a very nice humble guy,when we both were invited to guestposing in Japan 2006.
Hopefully you guys show compassion for him.  
epic trying to cover your attention whoring with some empty compassion call for a dumbass who's nearly killing himself due to sheer stupidity.

you disapoint me "musclecenter".


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 11, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
Chick, I'm sorry but that's ridiculous reasoning. Let me tell you something you won't believe: heroin and morphine aren't very toxic either. They will fuck you up in other ways, but won't give you liver or kidney failure quickly like Advil will when overdosed. Just because something is OTC or not says nothing about whether it's toxic to a specific organ.

Advil and Nubain don't even work through the same mechanisms. Advil isn't Nubain Lite.  :D
Can't even compare potency since Nubain isn't an anti-inflammatory.


Yet more nerdy trrivial details:





Contraindications
The following conditions are relative contraindications for morphine:

acute respiratory depression
renal failure (due to accumulation of the metabolites morphine-3-glucuronide and morphine-6-glucuronide)
chemical toxicity (potentially lethal in low tolerance subjects)
raised intracranial pressure, including head injury (risk of worsening respiratory depression)
Biliary colic.[31]
Although it has previously been thought that morphine was contraindicated in acute pancreatitis, a review of the literature shows no evidence for this.[32]

[edit] Pharmacology




Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: musclecenter on December 11, 2009, 08:34:13 AM
epic trying to cover your attention whoring with some empty compassion call for a dumbass who's nearly killing himself due to sheer stupidity.

you disapoint me "musclecenter".
Hey,mate
Don't be so cold-blooded


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: skull crusher on December 11, 2009, 08:57:23 AM
so in regards to luke wood...how many has milos almost killed now??

all pictures of luke before going to the koloseum gym were crazy!!
not so bad upon first entering the koloseum for about a good year.
and then just more and more down hill the more he was with milos.......
Shit im starting to think mishko is a passive aggressive type personallity,and is getting a kick out of slowly killing all his clients.

Do we really know this creep, or where he comes from. the country's hes from place little value on human life. pricks probably a serial killer back in his third world shithole. Bodybuildings version of silence of the lambs. (the kidney collector)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 09:12:42 AM
Yet more nerdy trrivial details:





Contraindications
The following conditions are relative contraindications for morphine:

acute respiratory depression
renal failure (due to accumulation of the metabolites morphine-3-glucuronide and morphine-6-glucuronide)
chemical toxicity (potentially lethal in low tolerance subjects)
raised intracranial pressure, including head injury (risk of worsening respiratory depression)
Biliary colic.[31]
Although it has previously been thought that morphine was contraindicated in acute pancreatitis, a review of the literature shows no evidence for this.[32]

[edit] Pharmacology




Gonna put this as nice as I'm able: You're just not getting the bigger context of how the body's systems work together. Cutting and pasting some pharmacology, nerd stuff doesn't show any deeper understanding. Take this from a nerd, LOL! Yes, built up metabolites from opiates affect renal function but other drugs (i.e., NSAIDS) are directly and indirectly toxic. Since AAS affect blood pressure it's impossible (yes I actually went there) for them to have no effect on renal function.

Personally, I feel information about steroid side effects is useless because it generally doesn't result in decreased use. People determined to use will roll the dice.  :) It's just silly to think not using drug X but taking everything else represents a higher level of safety.

At best, information about sides has the possibility to make usage a little safer. A lot of people argue doctors prescribing steroids would increase relative safety but it's doubtful that will happen unless the hippocratic oath changes.

My writing style is overly wordy and dry. In person it would translate better and I'm not trying to read like an ass


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: emn1964 on December 11, 2009, 09:27:17 AM
Gonna put this as nice as I'm able: You're just not getting the bigger context of how the body's systems work together. Cutting and pasting some pharmacology, nerd stuff doesn't show any deeper understanding. Take this from a nerd, LOL! Yes, built up metabolites from opiates affect renal function but other drugs (i.e., NSAIDS) are directly and indirectly toxic. Since AAS affect blood pressure it's impossible (yes I actually went there) for them to have no effect on renal function.

Personally, I feel information about steroid side effects is useless because it generally doesn't result in decreased use. People determined to use will roll the dice.  :) It's just silly to think not using drug X but taking everything else represents a higher level of safety.

At best, information about sides has the possibility to make usage a little safer. A lot of people argue doctors prescribing steroids would increase relative safety but it's doubtful that will happen unless the hippocratic oath changes.

My writing style is overly wordy and dry. In person it would translate better and I'm not trying to read like an ass

Let me translate this for chick...Chick--stop cutting and pasting shit you take out of context because you really don't know what you're talking about and you are only making youself look even more stupid.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MAXX on December 11, 2009, 09:51:13 AM
Guys have been blasting steroids for decades...you never heard of any kidney problems until fairly recently...when diuretics, pain killers, etc were starting to become part of the program...I'm sure AAS dont help, but to make them the sole problem is just being ignorant (as you are)


Bob:
(http://iamheather.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/head-in-sand.jpg)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Mars on December 11, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBrROJ9fEb0


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: The_Punisher on December 11, 2009, 10:27:46 AM
What do these guys expect to happen?  I'm sure he also got his "blood work" done regularly, until one day, it's too late.
It's a ridiculous way to be.  Sacrificing health for a $3 trophy, just plain dumb.
Not to mention, a complete contradiction in what they try to portray...healthy living.

Next, someone will chime in with "you do what you have to, to compete".  Nobody told you to pose in a thong asshole...haha
I guess this makes up for Obama getting the Nobel Prize.
I don't wish harm on Luke personally, but you're an idiot having this lifestyle...period.
Man up, train hard, train natural...otherwise, you're a fag in my book.
BOOOOM! ;)

the Sad thing is, Luke is not the first and won't be the last Victim of this. you would think those guys would learn from their predecessors, but I guess once they sign the deal with the Devil, they can't look back?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: YoungBlood on December 11, 2009, 11:13:32 AM

I can see both sides of the argument that Chick, Van_B and others are having, I'll offer my .02 as I can see it/understand.

I can certainly understand Chick's point about it being a cumulative issue. I can understand Van_B citing science supporting different viewpoints.

If a guy is not having his blood work done, and has no knowledge of things going wrong, that could be the very first step in causing the train wreck. Was Luke having Blood work done? Tom Prince said he never did, but it was the first bit of advice he admitted to giving at seminars. At least that's what he said in his 'net posts.

Was Luke prone to high blood pressure to begin with? Many people the world over have high BP, steroids or not.

Nubain is an opiate, and masks pain. Use steroids, push your body beyond the pain barrier (if you can even feel/distinguish between "good pain" and "bad pain") , and you're asking for trouble.

So you have high blood pressure, which is now pushed higher with AAS use, extreme training, thyroid medication, a reckless sense of ones health and a desire to continue on living the dream....you have what happened to Luke.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: The_Punisher on December 11, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
maybe that dream is more important than healthy, longer lives?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 11:20:27 AM
maybe that dream is more important than healthy, longer lives?

It is.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: emn1964 on December 11, 2009, 11:22:08 AM
maybe that dream is more important than healthy, longer lives?

Of course it is.  These guys have literally NOTHING else to fall back on.  Most are not qualified to do anything.  So, they take their shot (literally and figuratively).


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: The_Punisher on December 11, 2009, 12:00:08 PM
Of course it is.  These guys have literally NOTHING else to fall back on.  Most are not qualified to do anything.  So, they take their shot (literally and figuratively).


that's sad. after all the glory and fame, (if you want to call it that), I would want a healthy liver/Kidney and see my kids growing up


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jwb on December 11, 2009, 12:24:11 PM
Injury/Illness causing retirement from the sport you love takes a while to accept and move on from but I'm sure Luke will be fine he seems like a nice guy with a good support structure.

Tony was smart to call him and get the truth out there asap.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 11, 2009, 12:30:02 PM
Injury/Illness causing retirement from the sport you love takes a while to accept and move on from but I'm sure Luke will be fine he seems like a nice guy with a good support structure.

Tony was smart to call him and get the truth out there asap.

Bodybuilding is not a sport.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 12:38:29 PM

Here are some more "nerdy technical details"...


Reason I said it was nerdy and technical is that if you were into how the body works, how drugs work etc you'd already know these things. At least you could read these technical details and draw the right conclusions.

What it says is that if you're shooting dirty shit, heroin or whatever, you share needles or use dirty ones and then get an infection your kidneys can get affected. Not that pure pharma grade heroin used in a clean hospital setting is directly kidney toxic.

Reason these drugs are contraindicated in renal disease is that the drugs are filtered out by the kidneys. If your kidneys and liver aren't working properly the result might be that you get higher levels of the drug resulting in an OD.

Again, none of this means I'm defending the use of these narcotics. It's just something you wonder about when discussing failing organs, what really caused it.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Mars on December 11, 2009, 12:41:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC2mwrC86EQ


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jaejonna on December 11, 2009, 12:47:05 PM
When will you guys realize  ::) ::) ::)that Chick knows everything about anyone and anything BB related... ::) ::)  Heck the guy did lose compete for 13 years till he got his pro card....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 11, 2009, 12:50:32 PM
"Dare to dream!" - Tom Platz



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yefNuMQbEtY


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: emn1964 on December 11, 2009, 12:58:14 PM
When will you guys realize  ::) ::) ::)that Chick knows everything about anyone and anything BB related... ::) ::)  Heck the guy did lose compete for 13 years till he got his pro card....

the sad fact is that chick and all the rest of the "pros" actually know very little about what they are putting into their bodies.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2009, 01:04:14 PM
Yet more nerdy trrivial details:





Contraindications
The following conditions are relative contraindications for morphine:

acute respiratory depression
renal failure (due to accumulation of the metabolites morphine-3-glucuronide and morphine-6-glucuronide)
chemical toxicity (potentially lethal in low tolerance subjects)
raised intracranial pressure, including head injury (risk of worsening respiratory depression)
Biliary colic.[31]
Although it has previously been thought that morphine was contraindicated in acute pancreatitis, a review of the literature shows no evidence for this.[32]

[edit] Pharmacology




chick you have literally no idea what your talking about here. It has to do with the drugs metabolism, ibuprofen is almost exclusively metabolised by the kidneys and is definitely nephrotoxic. Morphine is not even the same class of drug and is less nephrotoxic, the degree to which morphine binds the opiate receptor has nothing to do with its toxicity. Of course people with renal disease would have to be cautious on morphine, and pretty much every other drug known to man, comparing a sick person to a healthy as evidence for drug toxicity is like comparing retard to a normal person as a gauge of the efficacy of the educational system.

Im not attacking you per se, but you seem to know little about pharmacology.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: emn1964 on December 11, 2009, 01:06:02 PM
chick you have literally no idea what your talking about here. It has to do with the drugs metabolism, ibuprofen is almost exclusively metabolised by the kidneys and is definitely nephrotoxic. Morphine is not even the same class of drug and is less nephrotoxic, the degree to which morphine binds the opiate receptor has nothing to do with its toxicity. Of course people with renal disease would have to be cautious on morphine, and pretty much every other drug known to man, comparing a sick person to a healthy as evidence for drug toxicity is like comparing retard to a normal person as a gauge of the efficacy of the educational system.

Im not attacking you per se, but you seem to know little about pharmacology.

Which is sad given that his job REQUIRES that he load up on a boat load of drugs.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 01:07:33 PM
And he calls me ignorant.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2009, 01:12:33 PM
See the text above:


Nubain is 1 molecule away from Heroin...If you believe an over the counter oral Advil is toxic, what do you think a prescription only, injectable painkiller akin to morphine and 10X more potent does??




what are you talking about, i didnt even see this. What does being prescription, being injectable, being close to morphine have to do with kidney toxicity? advil is far more kidney toxic then nubain, simple fact, read up on the pharmacodynamics of the drugs.

Your logic makes no sense at all, they arent even the same class of drug. geuss what tylenol is hepatoxic more so the heroin as well. The reason nubain is prescription is because of the addictive potential, along with the incapacitation it can cause.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 11, 2009, 01:12:57 PM
Shit im starting to think mishko is a passive aggressive type personallity,and is getting a kick out of slowly killing all his clients.

Do we really know this creep, or where he comes from. the country's hes from place little value on human life. pricks probably a serial killer back in his third world shithole. Bodybuildings version of silence of the lambs. (the kidney collector)

milos talks alot bullshit and yeah he likes to play at being a drug guru (the bodybuilders who come to his gym dont come to do giantsets they come for exposure and drugs)...but at the end of the day no one forces bodybuilders to inject anything. personal responsibility


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: lovemonkey on December 11, 2009, 01:15:08 PM
what are you talking about, i didnt even see this. What does being prescription, being injectable, being close to morphine have to do with kidney toxicity? advil is far more kidney toxic then nubain, simple fact, read up on the pharmacodynamics of the drugs.

Your logic makes no sense at all, they arent even the same class of drug. geuss what tylenol is hepatoxic more so the heroin as well. The reason nubain is prescription is because of the addictive potential, along with the incapacitation it can cause.

I would really like to see Chick squirm himself out of this one.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rockyfortune on December 11, 2009, 01:16:39 PM
he already did...his silence is deafening.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Special Ed on December 11, 2009, 01:31:22 PM
RIP LUKE. Another sad tale of a massive but genetically flawed guy taking double dosages to try to overcompensate for his structural limitations only to wind up broke, sick/dead with no job, health or future prospects. See also: BURKE, MUNZER, MOMO, LONG, MORRIS, PRINCE, FRANCOIS, NEWMAN, KELLSTROM and many more to come.

Near deaths: BECKLES, DILLET, WHEELER

Juice-induced life endings: FOX, MCNEIL, TITUS, DEMAYO, MEEKO

"I'll keep doin' this [bodybuilding] 'til my arms fall off." - Chris Cormier  


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Stavios on December 11, 2009, 01:36:44 PM
RIP LUKE. Another sad tale of a massive but genetically flawed guy taking double dosages to try to overcompensate for his structural limitations only to wind up broke, sick/dead with no job, health or future prospects. See also: BURKE, MUNZER, MOMO, LONG, MORRIS, PRINCE, FRANCOIS, NEWMAN, KELLSTROM and many more to come.

Near deaths: BECKLES, DILLET, WHEELER

Juice-induced life endings: FOX, MCNEIL, TITUS, DEMAYO, MEEKO

"I'll keep doin' this [bodybuilding] 'til my arms fall off." - Chris Cormier  

"I'll keep doin' this 'til my arms fall off."

that's what my GF always tells me when she masturbates me


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: regmac on December 11, 2009, 01:37:30 PM
He needs to move to Texas.   My dad needed one 5 yrs ago. He was told to move to TX,,,,,,,,,he just recieved a kideny a month ago at Baylor Hosp. in Dallas.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 11, 2009, 01:42:22 PM
Is this a confirmation?

to me it seemed like one


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 11, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness

writing in caps lock... check
using multiple !!!... check
using physical treats instead of valid rhetorical arguments... check

mindless proletarian numbnut... check


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
quite honestly ,and i'm not typing the following for "shock value"- i mean it sincerely, what is the point of living if you're not trying to "live the dream"

the fact in this matter is that human beings are animals- animals who were, initially, placed on this Earth with a very short lifespan (much like dogs)

However, because we are animals with reason and high intelligence, over time we were able to find ways to keep ourselves alive longer
Have you ever noticed that we live longer in relation to the advances in medicine

what i'm trying to get is that WE ARE ALL LIVING ON BORROWED TIME- might as well do whatever the fuck you want with yourself because we were initially made to live till our 30's, imho

plus, if it isn't one thing that will get you, it will be another so go ahead and live the dream


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jaejonna on December 11, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
quite honestly ,and i'm not typing the following for "shock value"- i mean it sincerely, what is the point of living if you're not trying to "live the dream"

the fact in this matter is that human beings are animals- animals who were, initially, placed on this Earth with a very short lifespan (much like dogs)

However, because we are animals with reason and high intelligence, over time we were able to find ways to keep ourselves alive longer
Have you ever noticed that we live longer in relation to the advances in medicine

what i'm trying to get is that WE ARE ALL LIVING ON BORROWED TIME- might as well do whatever the fuck you want with yourself because we were initially made to live till our 30's, imho

plus, if it isn't one thing that will get you, it will be another so go ahead and live the dream
translation: now I don't feel so bad about sucking this guy's dick.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: lovemonkey on December 11, 2009, 02:00:23 PM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness

Bitch. Skank. Ugly transgenderous monster.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jaejonna on December 11, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
The worst part is that Luke took all this shit that will eventually kill him for what ? to look like shit anyways when he came to do 'battle'  ::)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Mussolini on December 11, 2009, 02:07:15 PM
Another retard...can you bench 365?..I'm only 165 lbs asshole
yes I have pictures...
Most of the men on here don't train for MMA with the likes of Nate Quarry, Chris Leben and Ed Herman..but I do! I'd give any one of you 5 minutes to try to take me down, then I'll make you kiss your own ass right before you pass out...and thats being gentle...Think you can upset me by anything you say? GUFFAW!!! You guys are nothing but gum on my shoe.

I fight Professionally and I can attest the best MMA fighting girl at our club loses almost always to the worst me. Sorry sweetheart but thats a fact. Maybe your the exception but even Cyborg and Carona cant hang with the bantam weight men, so I highly doubt you can. Or are you better than those two?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 11, 2009, 02:12:55 PM
translation: now I don't feel so bad about sucking this guy's dick.

what i do on a saturday night in a random hotel room has nothing to do with the point i was making


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
buffgoddess is a gimmick, im loling at the GUFFAW!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: emn1964 on December 11, 2009, 03:41:31 PM
buffgoddess is a gimmick, im loling at the GUFFAW!!!!!!!!!!

giveaway


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: WillGrant on December 11, 2009, 03:50:14 PM
And "she" uses the word dude?  LMAO!  I bet you have a big set of man balls as well as a 9 inch dick huh?  I'm sure you're a real "sweetheart" huh honey?  LMAO! 
I told you its Alex  ::)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nzmusclemonster on December 11, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
Who cares about health when you have a chance to stand on a stage and get 10th place in panty parade and then soil your thong.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 11, 2009, 03:59:41 PM
Bitch. Skank. Ugly transgenderous monster.
LOL. *Writes down*    ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 11, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
(http://www.stalkerzone.dk/upload/Dsc01239.jpg)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nycbull on December 11, 2009, 04:49:57 PM
whatever happened to the "all advil" campaign Advil had going, that was obnoxious. Glad it failed.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Alexander D on December 11, 2009, 06:37:23 PM
I was alerted to the shit you guys are talking about Luke Wood. All of you are so high on your horses but have ANY of you ever done battle on the stage? HELL NO or you wouldn't be talking shit!!! Just as those of you that always flamed me when i was on here, dare you to step in the cage with me...I don't care what size you are, give me 3 minutes, you'll be tapping out or asleep in my arms like a baby...Keyboard gladiators, you're not cool, nor does your flaming of others raise your worth in others eyes...I guffaw at your smallness

hahaha you are an ignorant monkey. Your stupidity owns you. I am sure your war hero son is very proud of his mother that uses steroids and fights in a cage for money. Shame on you for talking about IQ and your "multiple degrees"...  ::)

-A Dub.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Alexander D on December 11, 2009, 06:49:53 PM
I dont think anyone, including physicians could point their finger to 1 drug or substance and say "AH HA its because of that!" But certainly diuretics, high protein diet, AAS, script pain killers (although morphine, nubain etc aren't typically nephrotoxic), advil etc can all add to his kidney problems.

Chick is right that AAS alone aren't typically the culprit of kidney failure. you worry more about liver issues, transaminitis, there is even some literature that suggests that AAS can cause benign cystic liver lesions which although benign, can rupture and cause issues.

but certainly HTN and DM can damage the kidneys... with AAS, insulin, GH potentially causing HTN and DM.

This is sad news for Luke, he seems like a good person and I wish him well. At the same time, I am sure he knows that he is the cause of his condition and will have to man up and deal with the cards that are dealt.

-A Dub


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: musclecenter on December 11, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svZa1sQz4PY


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 11, 2009, 09:50:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svZa1sQz4PY
how recent is this youtube video?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jwb on December 11, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
messiah would know that is his gym...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 11, 2009, 10:52:23 PM
how recent is this youtube video?

He said he was almost 33 in the video and his date of birth is February 8th, 1976, so it would have been sometime shortly before February of this year.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: wes on December 12, 2009, 04:57:34 AM
Wow,34 years old!!

Best of luck Luke........stay strong.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 12, 2009, 06:20:43 AM
He said he was almost 33 in the video and his date of birth is February 8th, 1976, so it would have been sometime shortly before February of this year.

thanks.  i like their accents 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Sir Humphrey on December 12, 2009, 06:35:23 AM
You have guys like Luke Wood with their kidneys/health failing within less than a decade on the pro circuit, then you have guys like Coleman and Cutler and Warren who are still around although they have been in it longer than Luke and achieved more than he has!

Makes you wonder...  :(


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: rocket on December 12, 2009, 07:00:56 AM
Luke is a class act and managed to weather the bullshit storm, here at GB with poise.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 09:05:00 AM
NUBAIN is the main cause.....Why use it?  I really dont know the answer to that question...always seemed strange to me as well, then again, so does getting drunk. I never even heard of it until I moved to LA back in 01, and when it was explained to me what it was...my next question was "So why use it?"

All I know is, its bad news



So you never tried to get Tom Prince any help, or at least talk to him? Surely you must have seen first hand what the effects of Nubain addiction did. Im not saying you would have been able to stop him, or change his actions, but surely you could have tried?  ???


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 09:08:28 AM
I didnt mention blood pressure, and it may effect it TO A POINT...but the damage inflicted by Nubain, Advil, Ibuprofin, etc., isnt even measureable to be compared. As I''ve said many times...it's the combination thats the main problem...stress from training, stress from hypertention, stress from too much protein, and stress from pain killers...add in the riggors of contest dieting and throw in a few diuretics, and it doesnt add up to a good situation.

Not to bust your balls....but a serious question.... What steps are you attempting to implement, to try and discourage this kind of reckless behaviour? Did you once consider yourself reckless? You wound up in the hospital once due to diuretic complications... (yes I know that you also had the "flu" at the time.. but still).

If you can agree that IFBB pros are putting themselves in precarious situations with their health... then what are you doing to try and stop this?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2009, 09:09:42 AM
how recent is this youtube video?
Wow! That's not gay in the least.  :-\


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: johnnynoname on December 12, 2009, 09:22:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOfOjXywdbo

this song best personifies the undying quest to not give a shit about dying and going for it no matter what


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Alexander D on December 12, 2009, 04:04:54 PM
"Why do bodybuilders use nubain and other pain killers?"

I think many go to them after some minor injury at first... they use the pain killers to blunt the pain from their injury and to still be able to continue to train (They are stupid for doing this, but it happens all the time.)

Pro wrestlers have been doing this for years, same with pro football players etc. Why a bodybuilder would feel the need to do it, when all they have is time to rest and recover, is beyond me... but, to restate the obvious, bodybuilders use them to continue to train... They then get addicted, build up TOLERANCE and continue to use more and more until they either O.D, or whatever…

It's completely stupid because although you aren't really feeling the "PAIN" from your injury, you are still continuing you injure yourself and injure yourself WORSE in most cases... It's pretty sad, but that's the skinny.

-A DUB - Master of the obvious



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Meso_z on December 12, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
who needs a kidney anyway.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 12, 2009, 05:51:14 PM
"Why do bodybuilders use nubain and other pain killers?"

I think many go to them after some minor injury at first... they use the pain killers to blunt the pain from their injury and to still be able to continue to train (They are stupid for doing this, but it happens all the time.)

Pro wrestlers have been doing this for years, same with pro football players etc. Why a bodybuilder would feel the need to do it, when all they have is time to rest and recover, is beyond me... but, to restate the obvious, bodybuilders use them to continue to train... They then get addicted, build up TOLERANCE and continue to use more and more until they either O.D, or whatever…

It's completely stupid because although you aren't really feeling the "PAIN" from your injury, you are still continuing you injure yourself and injure yourself WORSE in most cases... It's pretty sad, but that's the skinny.

-A DUB - Master of the obvious



I don't think Nubain use has anything to do with injuries or physical pain. They just want to get high. They may feel it helps the bodybuilding routine somehow but mainly just use narcotics because it feels good.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2009, 06:00:15 PM
You have guys like Luke Wood with their kidneys/health failing within less than a decade on the pro circuit, then you have guys like Coleman and Cutler and Warren who are still around although they have been in it longer than Luke and achieved more than he has!

Makes you wonder...  :(

Stop wondering, it's genetics.  :)

Another factor may simply be top guys do fewer shows and make real money from endorsements and guest posing.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 06:25:08 PM
Stop wondering, it's genetics.  :)

Another factor may simply be top guys do fewer shows and make real money from endorsements and guest posing.

This is probably the least talked about genetic advantage in bodybuilding... The ability to have a pro level physique, with only having to take relatively small doses.

Or better put... the "Epic Horselike Constitution!"


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 12, 2009, 06:31:15 PM
Not to bust your balls....but a serious question.... What steps are you attempting to implement, to try and discourage this kind of reckless behaviour? Did you once consider yourself reckless? You wound up in the hospital once due to diuretic complications... (yes I know that you also had the "flu" at the time.. but still).

If you can agree that IFBB pros are putting themselves in precarious situations with their health... then what are you doing to try and stop this?

I've taken ZERO steps to try and discourage this reckless behavior...if their own two eyes arent enough to see the problems others have faced doing the same thing...then there is nothing more I can add.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 06:43:06 PM
I've taken ZERO steps to try and discourage this reckless behavior...if their own two eyes arent enough to see the problems others have faced doing the same thing...then there is nothing more I can add.

You are being absurd... you of all people should know of the "do anything it takes" mentality that all serious bodybuilders posses to some extent or another. In fact I am sure that even you pushed the envelope more and more as the years went by, and the chance of you getting a pro card seemed slimmer, and slimmer.

As I sated earlier you even got yourself in trouble with diuretics, so are you just as reckless as some of the others? Be honest about this...

Anyways... you can try and change things by lobbying to either alter the judging standards in an effort to penalize an overly chemical look to the competitors, or reinstate diuretic testing, (Which IMO is probably the best option for various reasons).

If you "care so much" about bodybuilders, and this sport like you say you do, then you would be discussing ideas to try and better it, instead of trying to constantly save face, try and prove your right no matter how silly you come off in the process, or calling us all trolls/closet homosexuals, etc....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 12, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
You are being absurd... you of all people should know of the "do anything it takes" mentality that all serious bodybuilders posses to some extent or another. In fact I am sure that even you pushed the envelope more and more as the years went by, and the chance of you getting a pro card seemed slimmer, and slimmer.

As I sated earlier you even got yourself in trouble with diuretics, so are you just as reckless as some of the others? Be honest about this...

Anyways... you can try and change things by lobbying to either alter the judging standards in an effort to penalize an overly chemical look to the competitors, or reinstate diuretic testing, (Which IMO is probably the best option for various reasons).

If you "care so much" about bodybuilders, and this sport like you say you do, then you would be discussing ideas to try and better it, instead of trying to constantly save face, try and prove your right no matter how silly you come off in the process, or calling us all trolls/closet homosexuals, etc....
name calling is an act of desperation


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: dr.chimps on December 12, 2009, 07:14:13 PM
name calling is an act of desperation
Sure it is. Feels pretty good, tho, too.  ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 12, 2009, 07:22:41 PM
You are being absurd... you of all people should know of the "do anything it takes" mentality that all serious bodybuilders posses to some extent or another. In fact I am sure that even you pushed the envelope more and more as the years went by, and the chance of you getting a pro card seemed slimmer, and slimmer.

Incorrect...I NEVER pushed the envelope in my quest for a pro card...perhaps If I did, it wouldnt have taken me 13 years to achieve one, but I wasnt willing to do it. Perhaps there are those who are willing to "do anything"...I wasnt one of them...

As I sated earlier you even got yourself in trouble with diuretics, so are you just as reckless as some of the others? Be honest about this...

I had ONE problem in 30 YEARS of competing...If I were "reckless" I'm sure there would have been more instances...what I had was a flu, combined with competing 3 times in as many weeks, and diuretics, which made for a bad combo.

Anyways... you can try and change things by lobbying to either alter the judging standards in an effort to penalize an overly chemical look to the competitors, or reinstate diuretic testing, (Which IMO is probably the best option for various reasons).

These guys are adults and professionals..if they aint smart enough to stay away from something as damaging as Nubain, then perhaps they should re evaluate what they are doing  in life...

If you "care so much" about bodybuilders, and this sport like you say you do, then you would be discussing ideas to try and better it, instead of trying to constantly save face, try and prove your right no matter how silly you come off in the process, or calling us all trolls/closet homosexuals, etc....


People get treated "in-kind" here...if they come at me like an ignorant asshole, then they get treated as such...ask normal questions, engage in debate and discussion like a human being...and it gets returned. I dont randomly attack anonymous people....


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 07:28:11 PM


OK... Give us an example of what you weren't willing to do in your BBing career. We all know that you wont post up cycles, etc, but maybe you could point out some things that you weren't willing to do to be competitive, that others were...to illustrate your point.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 12, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

LOL



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 12, 2009, 07:38:26 PM
OK... Give us an example of what you weren't willing to do in your BBing career. We all know that you wont post up cycles, etc, but maybe you could point out some things that you weren't willing to do to be competitive, that others were...to illustrate your point.

Wasnt willing to do anything that compromised my integrity, first and foremost...wasnt willing to do any rec drugs, retarded amounts of steroids, GH, etc...never used IGF, DNP, or insulin (other than for 1 show during the last 48 hour carb up)...wasnt willing to get to 300 lbs. for the mere sake of it...wast willing to push the envelope with MAX lifts for ego...wasnt willing to stay on the gas all year long...and wasnt willing to live out of my car, leave home with 200 bucks in my pocket, etc, etc..old story that we all hear of.  I waited until I won the USA, secured a contract with GNC and had money in the bank until I decided to move out to the coast.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Nasty Nate on December 12, 2009, 07:38:37 PM
Why the fuck would someone "prepare" for a guest posing in the first place ?  :-\

We'll he's gotta be big and in some sort of condition... it would be bad for business if he went to a guest posing where he's getting paid 3-5g's and look like shit all around.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 07:47:49 PM
Wasnt willing to do anything that compromised my integrity, first and foremost...wasnt willing to do any rec drugs, retarded amounts of steroids, GH, etc...never used IGF, DNP, or insulin (other than for 1 show during the last 48 hour carb up)...wasnt willing to get to 300 lbs. for the mere sake of it...wast willing to push the envelope with MAX lifts for ego...wasnt willing to stay on the gas all year long...and wasnt willing to live out of my car, leave home with 200 bucks in my pocket, etc, etc..old story that we all hear of.  I waited until I won the USA, secured a contract with GNC and had money in the bank until I decided to move out to the coast.

Interesting... Did you use GH year round, or only pre-contest? Looking back do you feel that GH was overrated, or did it make a significant improvement.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 12, 2009, 07:50:08 PM
Interesting... Did you use GH year round, or only pre-contest? Looking back do you feel that GH was overrated, or did it make a significant improvement.

Never used it year round...WAY over rated IMO...especially in bigger dosages. Better as a anti-aging drug...


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 07:57:56 PM
Never used it year round...WAY over rated IMO...especially in bigger dosages. Better as a anti-aging drug...

Did it help you lose fat faster then if you werent taking it. It always seemed to me that it was nothing more then a glorified fat burner, but I never tried it, so I can only go by what I have read, and talked to people about.



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Chick on December 12, 2009, 07:59:33 PM
Did it help you lose fat faster then if you werent taking it. It always seemed to me that it was nothing more then a glorified fat burner, but I never tried it, so I can only go by what I have read, and talked to people about.



Not that I could tell...maybe in higher dosages, but I wasnt willing to go there (or spend the money)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Alexander D on December 12, 2009, 08:20:55 PM
I don't think Nubain use has anything to do with injuries or physical pain. They just want to get high. They may feel it helps the bodybuilding routine somehow but mainly just use narcotics because it feels good.

It is a pain killer first and foremost, so you are wrong. Secondly, while it does have some dysphoric/euphoric effects, there are much better drugs out there if you strictly want to get "high"....

Nubain is still used in some states in Obstetrics patients, although less common as fentanyl and morphine are still good choices.

Either way, you gotta be a fucking moron- Tom Prince, etc to get hooked on the stuff.

-A DUB


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Topskin69 on December 12, 2009, 08:24:44 PM
It is a pain killer first and foremost, so you are wrong. Secondly, while it does have some dysphoric/euphoric effects, there are much better drugs out there if you strictly want to get "high"....

Nubain is still used in some states in Obstetrics patients, although less common as fentanyl and morphine are still good choices.

Either way, you gotta be a fucking moron- Tom Prince, etc to get hooked on the stuff.

-A DUB


I was talking to a MD about Nubain not long ago, and he mentioned that while it still sees occasional use before surgeries, it is rarely used, as morphine is preferred in almost all cases, and it never really caught on in the Medical community in the first place.

Bodybuilders are really the only fans of this crap...and thankfully I think that its "era" has come to an end for the most part.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Charfman84 on December 12, 2009, 09:02:45 PM
DENIAL   once a juicer always a juicer.  Walking around with blinders on regarding your own situation but then screaming about being anti-steroid.   Hypocrite maybe?   Just becuz the years have gone by doesnt save you from using that needle 16 years ago.  Time will never cleanse your soul

People experiment with things they know have adverse effects.  All drugs are the same.  A temporary perk for potentially long lasting negative effects.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tito24 on December 12, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
Luke will recover... 8)



Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Charfman84 on December 12, 2009, 09:50:40 PM
Do any pros admit the amount of steroids they use will training and preppring for shows?  How large a disparity is there in their dose and that of the casual steroid user (if there can be one)?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Alexander D on December 12, 2009, 10:51:07 PM


I was talking to a MD about Nubain not long ago, and he mentioned that while it still sees occasional use before surgeries, it is rarely used, as morphine is preferred in almost all cases, and it never really caught on in the Medical community in the first place.

Bodybuilders are really the only fans of this crap...and thankfully I think that its "era" has come to an end for the most part.

You are pretty much right. There are much better, safer drugs that can be used with less potential for abuse/addiction/complications.

Some MMA fighter got hooked on it also and admitted to it... I forget the guys name, but someone will post it.

I also think a reason for bodybuilders getting their hands on it and using it, is it's availability in Mexico...

-A DUB


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 12, 2009, 11:40:06 PM
Luke will recover... 8)

 8)

AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE MACHINE!!!
AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE MACHINE!!!
AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE MACHINE!!!
AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE MACHINE!!!
AUSTRALIAN MUSCLE MACHINE!!!

 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: TRIX on December 12, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
I will be bigger than luke wood by next year :D ... Get well luke, nice dude.

Bob rewind back to the 2003 olympia, was that girl hanging off your THEN HUGE arm your mrs?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Matt C on December 13, 2009, 12:17:30 AM
I will be bigger than luke wood by next year :D ... Get well luke, nice dude.

Bob rewind back to the 2003 olympia, was that girl hanging off your THEN HUGE arm your mrs?

If a man of Luke's height and frame size trained naturally, what is a realistic height for him and in what condition?


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 13, 2009, 08:27:38 AM
It is a pain killer first and foremost, so you are wrong. Secondly, while it does have some dysphoric/euphoric effects, there are much better drugs out there if you strictly want to get "high"....

Nubain is still used in some states in Obstetrics patients, although less common as fentanyl and morphine are still good choices.

Either way, you gotta be a fucking moron- Tom Prince, etc to get hooked on the stuff.

-A DUB

I don't think I'm wrong in the least. I don't think all the guys using Nubain were in such pain they needed a narcotic. Of course there are more potent drugs for getting high. This is probably one justification for using it, "it's not that big of a deal, it's not that strong, it's not in the same class as stronger narcotics". In the short run narcotics make the boring and monotonous bodybuilding routine more "fun" and tolerable. I don't think bodybuilders use it because they are in such pain that they absolutely can't train without it. It's just like GHB. Yes it can help you sleep and release GH but it's used mainly because it makes you high, not because you're desperately in need of something to put you to sleep.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Board_SHERIF on December 13, 2009, 08:40:03 AM
Life is a BITCH.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 13, 2009, 09:49:17 AM
Wow first time I've seen Chick admitting to GH, Slin, diuretic use!  Bravo!  As much as I bust Chick's balls I do respect his take on drugs and he's one of the more level headed bodybuilders obviously. 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2009, 10:25:05 AM
Of course it is.  These guys have literally NOTHING else to fall back on.  Most are not qualified to do anything.  So, they take their shot (literally and figuratively).

What exactly is stopping these guys from going back to school and learning a skill? I know many people who changed careers in their 30s and are doing quite well.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: uberman09 on December 13, 2009, 11:04:26 AM
What exactly is stopping these guys from going back to school and learning a skill? I know many people who changed careers in their 30s and are doing quite well.
it's a lot easier to lift weights and inject shit than studying.... It doesnt involve intelectual or emotional skills... If you never developed your emotional or intelectual intelligence or gave very few attention to it it's harder as you get older to work on it - even if possible-. It's easier to develop these when you re a child then teen then young adult. But as humans age, their learning capacities decrease and they naturally tend to focus on the things they already know (instinct of survival motivating economy of ressources and energy available).


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Mars on December 13, 2009, 11:06:41 AM
luke will soon be back to destroy aesthetically tiny tits on stage.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MAXX on December 13, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
luke will soon be back to destroy aesthetically tiny tits on stage.
yes mars will donate his kidney so that Luke can get on stage and do battle again  >:(


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 13, 2009, 12:05:18 PM
IFBB needs to start buying kidneys and other organs so they can give them to pros. they can store them in a big fridge in the dungeons of the weider office


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Big John ZED on December 13, 2009, 04:15:39 PM
Luke will be back he is one of the good guys and as for it being from BB drugs give me a break.The IFBB Drug test athletes and have a Drug ban rule.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Ex Coelis on December 13, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
maybe he can still compete in the 202's


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Big John ZED on December 13, 2009, 04:24:31 PM
A little tall for the 202s it's not the 80s you know.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: lovemonkey on December 13, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
Luke will be back he is one of the good guys and as for it being from BB drugs give me a break.The IFBB Drug test athletes and have a Drug ban rule.

Holy christ man just give it up.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: 2Thick on December 13, 2009, 07:19:13 PM
Step in the cage with me asshole...my son served in Kuwait and 2 tours of Iraq...I'm an MMA fighter, and I'll defend my country at the split second, but I'll also put an asshole like you to sleep in a Rear Naked Choke in less than a minute...It's up to me if you live or die...I'll let you live , because your life is so pathetic, it would be more a of a revenge to let you live...

Absolute gold.  ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 14, 2009, 08:35:17 AM
Absolute gold.  ;D

Definitely top 5 getbig meltdowns of all time.    ;D


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: crownshep on December 14, 2009, 09:00:19 AM
Nubain was used initially in bodybuilding as an anti catabolic,the premise being that instead of breaking the muscle down and then it recovering bigger and stronger,the breaking down part would not happen.The GHB was used supposedly as a GH releaser.Trouble was with both of them they were very easy to get addicted to.But then again i saw the same thing happen with a lot of guys at our gym who started taking ecxtasy to go out clubbing,next thing you know they would rather do that than train.Its the same with nubain and GHB,you start off using them to aid your bodybuilding,but end up not wanting to train,you just want to stay at home feeling spaced out.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 14, 2009, 09:15:16 AM
Nubain was used initially in bodybuilding as an anti catabolic,the premise being that instead of breaking the muscle down and then it recovering bigger and stronger,the breaking down part would not happen.The GHB was used supposedly as a GH releaser.Trouble was with both of them they were very easy to get addicted to.But then again i saw the same thing happen with a lot of guys at our gym who started taking ecxtasy to go out clubbing,next thing you know they would rather do that than train.Its the same with nubain and GHB,you start off using them to aid your bodybuilding,but end up not wanting to train,you just want to stay at home feeling spaced out.

Translation = bodybuilders are a bunch of fucking loser junked up druggies for the most part.  I mean if you're willing to inject all sorts of shit, and pop pills to build muscle why would you think most bodybuilders wouldn't do the same thing to get high, party, feel good as well? 


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: nolotil on December 14, 2009, 01:53:49 PM
I don't think I'm wrong in the least. I don't think all the guys using Nubain were in such pain they needed a narcotic. Of course there are more potent drugs for getting high. This is probably one justification for using it, "it's not that big of a deal, it's not that strong, it's not in the same class as stronger narcotics". In the short run narcotics make the boring and monotonous bodybuilding routine more "fun" and tolerable. I don't think bodybuilders use it because they are in such pain that they absolutely can't train without it. It's just like GHB. Yes it can help you sleep and release GH but it's used mainly because it makes you high, not because you're desperately in need of something to put you to sleep.

im new on here but i read a few of your posts. very high quality posts and i agree with you its often a sliding decline into req drug use. in many cases they get hooked on em either after some kind of injury or just break up the monotony.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: no one on December 14, 2009, 02:00:43 PM


where did the androgynous she-beast go that was supposed to choke everyone out in this thread?

btw, a little birdie told me her son is a little into the faggotry and was almost kicked out of the military for his lewd conduct.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Aaron Singerman on December 14, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
Luke Wood will be on OFF TOPIC Radio this Wednesday at 8pm EST! (The show will available for download shortly after it ends)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jeremyj on December 30, 2010, 03:08:01 AM
I guess he won't be competing at Autralian Pro. ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on December 30, 2010, 03:21:54 AM
Nubain was used initially in bodybuilding as an anti catabolic,the premise being that instead of breaking the muscle down and then it recovering bigger and stronger,the breaking down part would not happen.The GHB was used supposedly as a GH releaser.Trouble was with both of them they were very easy to get addicted to.But then again i saw the same thing happen with a lot of guys at our gym who started taking ecxtasy to go out clubbing,next thing you know they would rather do that than train.Its the same with nubain and GHB,you start off using them to aid your bodybuilding,but end up not wanting to train,you just want to stay at home feeling spaced out.

Nubain and GHB,  Hmmm Duchaine dropped from Kidney issues as well, he was addicted to that stuff.
Though he claimed his was hereditary only, since his sister has the same issue, though she still happens to be alive, while Dan is "food for the ants'.


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jeremyj on December 30, 2010, 03:40:13 AM
Drugs are only the finishing touches according to Chickster. ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: Tito24 on December 30, 2010, 03:41:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-C6okfSy6c


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: jeremyj on December 30, 2010, 03:42:44 AM
That's not Milos. ;)


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: gh15 on December 30, 2010, 03:44:45 AM
peoplel fail to understand that the reason a mutant become a mutant ,,is YEARS OF ABUSE OF HGH TREN AND TEST,,those 3 compounds abusing them is also what finish kidnys,,along with duretics ofcourse,,but you fellas thikn that 75mg every second day is abuse lol no no my friends,,those fellas take vials of tren and vials of gh and finish them in a week,,they really do 100-200mg tren a day they really do 15 iu gh a day ,,they really stay for ever on ,,they just change products,,btu they are not playing with 100mg every 3rd day lol,,they take it as hard as they can ,,they dont sit on internet discuss pct and 50mg every 3rd day inject lol they fuckin blow the shit out of the vials ,,they buy 1-5 k worth of vials they buy kits of gh in the 10s they put 3 k on kits at once ,,they put everything they have on this shit,,thats why they are 270 and you are 200,,i know 70lb dont sound a lot but when its 70 lb of LEAN MUSCLE its HUGE ENOURMOUS DIFF,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: caseyviator on December 30, 2010, 09:20:40 AM
funny, this board used tobe for bodybuilders.  now seems like not to many here like it anymore,
ill always love bodybuilding/powerlifting and  readin the bb boards.


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: The Italian Lifter on December 30, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
i miss the retarded "lady", where is she?


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: 1stkeepitreal on December 30, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Lets all give Milos a round of applause for giving the young Luke such great guidance with his career.....

Luke has many times openly thank Milos for the support, training and guidance provided with all aspects of his BB career.

Good on ya Milos!


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: the_swami on December 30, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
yes, why isnt Milos' great friend Luke Wood bailing Milos out of jail now?


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Alexander D on December 30, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
post a pic


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Heavy_Hitter on December 31, 2010, 01:23:06 AM
Wow, some hate! It would suck if your mother/father or maybe a friend or a loved one, ever had health problems. You tell someone who maybe close to you, and they reply with something like "That alchoholic bitch, she/he deserved it".


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Meso_z on December 31, 2010, 01:43:30 AM
dude was a monster..


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Tito24 on December 31, 2010, 02:30:30 AM
yes luke looked awesome


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Meso_z on December 31, 2010, 03:01:13 AM
yes luke looked awesome
Wheres that pic in which he was doing curls and his delts looked huge sticking out.


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Formerly_Owner76 on December 31, 2010, 04:33:46 AM
Totally worth blowing out your kidneys, just to look like that for a few years. Totally.  ::)


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 31, 2010, 10:59:39 AM
Rumor is he was getting ready to do a guest pose earlier in the year, and had to pull out after becoming ill. Turns out he has to start dialysis soon ,and will need a transplant. Hes been preparing everyone for the inevitable shrinkage,  by telling everyone hes sick of being big. Very sad. Add Luke to the growing list of bodybuilders melting their kidneys  :'(

  Now let's just wait for Peter McGough or some other bodybuilding professional writer to come out and say that Luke suffered from a "congenital" kidney problem and that anabolic use had nothing to do with it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Title: Re: LUKE WOOD: NEEDS KIDNEY TRANSPLANT
Post by: _bruce_ on December 31, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-C6okfSy6c

Gary is the man  :D


Title: Re: Luke Wood needs a kidney transplant
Post by: Bam-bam on December 31, 2010, 11:25:17 AM
he died for you bitches