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Title: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csquCdxzQeE


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwyFogvJgqs


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:08:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LB38tmz1rs


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:09:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsfSfs_AEE0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:13:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RNScXzXHLc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:14:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slNC_jyjBcQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 25, 2012, 03:15:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 12:00:38 PM
(http://mikeflashc3.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/loon-rapper-image.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLWOXKlHys


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK--g2Pjqb8


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1JFuedSGo


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYZH8qvy_k


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 04:38:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyucg3qpJt0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 04:42:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeWuI-BqsqA


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 26, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8232H1xvjC0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 26, 2012, 06:40:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RNScXzXHLc

oh my, what a dumb cunt  :-X


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on September 27, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7-7igGU1I


Title: Re: Why do Muslims eat Halal?
Post by: a_ahmed on September 27, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxARTX1d52w


Title: Re: Why do Muslims eat Halal?
Post by: a_ahmed on September 27, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ojjt3_fME


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 27, 2012, 04:37:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH8er8beT-0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 27, 2012, 04:39:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlNphg_eqJ0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on September 28, 2012, 08:09:16 AM
Islam is incompatible with Western culture and civilization.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 28, 2012, 02:45:47 PM
Highly recommended to watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NOuEy-rGzU


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 28, 2012, 02:46:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqJQQpW92aY


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 28, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c9Ng7H6-14


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 29, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
One of the videos of this guy on here just saw this picture never saw his before pic until now woah

(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.843.403/p843x403/417535_350498721694896_2072488990_n.jpg)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on September 30, 2012, 10:31:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fp5Gu5N51M


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 01, 2012, 04:42:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlww6zvAe_o


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 01, 2012, 04:43:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5xnfq42P-o


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 01, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVeIRQE0I8E


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 01, 2012, 07:06:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We1dZJlQDTU


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 02, 2012, 01:41:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqJQQpW92aY
Let us speak frankly.

If a Muslim woman soldier (if that even exists, given your hate of women) were to leave Islam, what would happen?



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 02, 2012, 07:38:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K77UYlR35iQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 02, 2012, 07:39:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrV00b1bfVM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 02, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1VNeKiziM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 02, 2012, 07:51:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbMjE7RQTc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 02, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvCU-4TE-ec


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2012, 02:16:09 AM
Converted Christians, Buddhists and of any religion, cult or sect all say exactly the same things.

There are also Christian converts from Islam, Buddhism and any other religion.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: bigbobs on October 03, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Converted Christians, Buddhists and of any religion, cult or sect all say exactly the same things.

There are also Christian converts from Islam, Buddhism and any other religion.

But guess which one is the fastest growing, and with the most converts ;)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 03, 2012, 06:25:31 PM
And the greatest percentage of converts are white university educated females :)

Speaking of white female:

Quote
French rapper stuns fans with Islam and hijab
by Ramdane Belamri

(http://muslimvillage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Diams-Hijab-presstv.com_.jpg)

Amid a nationwide debate in France surrounding attitudes towards the Islamic veil, or hijab, a French rapper has surprised fans by announcing her conversion to Islam and choosing to wear a headscarf.

Mélanie Georgiades, known as Diam’s, has gone through what onlookers have described as a “complete transformation” from an image she had prior to 2009.

Since 2009, Diam’s had been unusually absent from the mainstream rap scene, prompting more than three years of controversy over her whereabouts, despite making the odd public appearance with her scarf.  But recently the French rapper made her first television appearance with her new image.

Diam’s appeared in an exclusive TV interview with French TV station TF1, to talk about a past experience with drugs, including hallucinating narcotics, and being in a mental asylum until she discovered the “serenity of Islam.” The rapper said the religion was introduced to her by coincidence, when she saw a Muslim friend praying.

Diam’s, said she has been married for over a year and is a now a new mother, moving far away from her drug-relate past.

In her TV interview she said her “conversion to Islam was the result of a personal conviction, after understanding the religion and reading the Holy Quran.”

When asked about wearing the hijab in France, a country which has banned the niqab, she said: “I believe that I live in a tolerant society, and I don’t feel hurt by criticism, but by insults and stereotyping and ready-made judgments.”

Asked by her host about why she is wearing a hijab while many Muslim women don’t wear it, and don’t find it to be a religious obligation, she answered: “I see it as a divine order or a divine advice, this brings joy to my heart and for me this is enough.”

Stardom?

Diam’s said that by converting to Islam she gained comfort, adding that stardom doesn’t fit in with her life anymore, adding “this has warmed my heart, as I know now the purpose of my existence, and why am I here on Earth.”

Diam’s criticized the media which photographed her coming out of one of the mosques in France, wearing her Hijab and looking at her mobile, preceded by a man in a training suit, which many believed to be her husband.

Discussing how her life was like before her conversion to Islam, Diam’s said: “I was very famous and I had what every famous person looks for, but I was always crying bitterly alone at home, and this is what none of my fans had felt.”

She added: “I was heavily addicted to drugs, including hallucinating narcotics and was admitted in mental asylum to recover, but this was in vain until I heard one of my Muslim friends saying ‘I am going to pray for a while and will come back,’ so I told her that I want to pray as well.”

Recalling that moment, Diam’s said: “it was the first time that I touched the floor with head, and I had a strong feeling that I have never experienced before, and I believe now that kneeling in prayer, shouldn’t be done to anyone but Allah.”

Islam, a religion of tolerance

Diam’s said that she moved to Mauritius to read the Quran, and have a better understanding of Islam, discovering during her retreat, the tolerance of Islam.

When asked by her host about her views on Islam, and those who commit all the murders and atrocities pretending to be doing it in the name of religion, she answered: “I think we should differentiate between the ignorant and the knowledgeable, and the ignorant should not speak about what he doesn’t know, Islam does not allow murdering innocent victims the way we see it nowadays.”



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 03, 2012, 06:43:26 PM
just to be fair, can you show some dead body pics of the people that have left Islam?

Thanks, buddy.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 03, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBi4qcnPmMY


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 03, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tayZPQFOTbc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 03, 2012, 07:06:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Fik8H4IOQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 04, 2012, 01:25:11 AM
But guess which one is the fastest growing, and with the most converts ;)

In desperate times people need answers and the ignorant and poor are easily swayed and manipulated.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 04, 2012, 01:42:31 AM
And the greatest percentage of converts are white university educated females :)

Speaking of white female:


You should try respond to my other posts as well or are the questions too hard to answer....?   :D

Anyway, those 'white' women are mostly those who have married Moslems and have been 'persuaded' to convert.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 07:44:12 AM
That's cute that you're racist and all, I am white and married a brown woman :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 07:50:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSM1hu5gtus


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 07:52:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF8joJaOVJw


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 08:03:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6l_BT8SU4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AibbNwMbgcI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4dzKlfNy-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se6iOdoVSPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yrTZ6FPxwo

From the last sermon of Muhammad (pbuh):

Quote
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

And from Qur'an:

Quote
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). (Quran 49:13)

Totally makes sense, if everyone looked exactly the same we wouldn't be able to recognize each other. Pretty foolish that people are racist as all it is some slight genetic variation and alteration of pigment and hormones


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 09:44:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZSrPF5GNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFXuZRLMTY


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 11:47:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEpUC5vQ74


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpPAttWvv1s


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:01:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtYW_us6t-E


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7OFHDcpHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqK2c_pOw_k


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
Since alot of islamophobes criticizing Muslims for how we pray and that 'no jews or christians' pray like that.. I thought this would be an interesting thread.

In fact, if we read the old testament and new testament, the prophets of God prayed how we Muslims pray. If we look at original jewish prayer they prayed like we still pray today. If we even look at remnants of early christianity still with us today like certain christians in egypt, we will find them praying nearly identically as we pray today.

Jesus bowed down and prostrated himself, touching his head praying to God. So did Moses. So did Abraham. Etc...

Jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvQZ2-SowI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJYvBJFb8CQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg

Christians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLFeldPG3Y



Before prayer we do ablution which is washing ourself ritually to be clean in front of God. Washing our hands, washing our forearms, washing our face, rinsing our mouth and nose, washing our feet. This we call wudhu. Likewise alternatively we take a shower which is called ghusl (mandatory after sex).


Title: Re: Muslim prayer
Post by: Kazan on October 04, 2012, 01:26:59 PM
There is a religion board for this...............


Title: Re: Muslim prayer
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:30:04 PM
oops thought i was in religion subsection :) Well enjoy either way


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:37:12 PM
Since a lot of islamophobes criticize us Muslims for how we pray and that 'no jews or christians' pray like that.. I thought this would be an interesting thread.

In fact, if we read the old testament and new testament, the prophets of God prayed how we Muslims pray. If we look at original jewish prayer they prayed like we still pray today. If we even look at remnants of early christianity still with us today like certain christians in egypt, we will find them praying nearly identically as we pray today.

Jesus bowed down and prostrated himself, touching his head praying to God. So did Moses. So did Abraham. Etc...

Jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvQZ2-SowI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJYvBJFb8CQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWyhVwpURQ

Christians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRLFeldPG3Y



Before prayer we do ablution which is washing ourself ritually to be clean in front of God. Washing our hands, washing our forearms, washing our face, rinsing our mouth and nose, washing our feet. This we call wudhu. Likewise alternatively we take a shower which is called ghusl (mandatory after sex).


Title: Re: Muslim prayer
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 01:42:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBlmHfxTGw


Title: Re: Muslim prayer compared to Jewish and Christian prayer
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
While jews have that long horn trumpet thing they blow on for a call to prayer. Christians have bells.

We muslims have a verbal call to prayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF47Ec5wBK4

I remember as a Christian witnessing these as well... when I became muslim I have desired to hear it again ever since... when I used to hear it, I felt interest in it but did not know what it was... I knew nothing about islam... I did visit after becoming Muslim, and it is indeed beautiful and unique to hear... Hearing it here during prayer times in the west, does not do it justice.

The full call to prayer is as so:

4x   الله أكبر   ---- Allahu Akbar ---- God is greatest
2x   أشهد أن لا اله إلا الله   ---- Ash-hadu an-la ilaha illa llah   ---- I bear witness that there is no deity except God.
2x   أشهد أن محمدا رسول الله   ---- Ash-hadu anna Muħammadan-Rasulullah   ---- I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.
2x   حي على الصلاة   ---- Hayya 'ala s-salah   ---- Come to prayer ('salat').
2x   حي على الفلاح   ---- Hayya 'ala 'l-falah ---- Come to success.
2x   الله أكبر   ---- Allāhu akbar   ---- God is greatest.
1x   لا إله إلا الله ---- La ilaha illa-Allah ---- There is no deity except God.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
I never understood converting from one religion to any other religion.

Religion is something that is indoctrinated into you from very very young ages... If you decide to stop believing in that which you have been taught to believe... Why would you switch to another religion and all of a sudden believe that one?

Would seem that not believing in any religion would be much more likely.



This is the Book (the Qur'ân), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqûn [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allâh much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allâh much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)]. (Quran 2:1-2)

(This is) a Revelation sent down by the All­Mighty, the Most Merciful. In order that you may warn a people whose forefathers were not warned, so they are heedless. (Quran 36:5-6)

Whenever someone tells them: "Follow what God has sent down;" they say: "Rather we will follow what we discovered our forefathers were doing," even though their forefathers did not use reason in any way nor were they guided. (Quran 2:170)



We are all born pure, but we are raised and educated by our parents, friends, schools, environments.

To be Muslim is to submit yourself to God almighty by yourself. That is the literal definition of Muslim. Submission to God alone.

When truth of a certain thing is in front of you it is only wise to accept it or at least first ponder upon it before accepting.

Before leaving christianity, I studied christianity in depth, more than most christians know about their own religion. Most christians just blindly follow what their parents, schools and churches say.

Furthermore before leaving christianity I explored many different religions, philosophies, ideologies, I did not point blank just accept Islam. To me it was a journey, through acquiring knowledge and reflecting upon experiences in my travels, reflecting on experiences in my life and pondering rationally about myself, my environment, history, our origins, our purpose, etc... Yet the more i learned the more I realized what I believe is Islam, it had all the answers to all the questions I had about the bible and christianity. All that I was seeing around me happening, it was truly enlightening...

Furthermore its a simple, plain and truthful religion. There is no God except God almighty, that we worship him, that we do good deeds and abstain from evil. It is a religion that does not denounce reason or rational, it encourages it. It is a complete way of life and with practical teachings. Unlike say budhism if you really study budhism it is an impractical religion. Any way of life or religion that tries to deny human desire is impractical. Islam is not just a religion though, it is a complete way of life.

Most of these people on getbig that boast about slandering Islam have not even once given the chance to read the qur'an. Yet come on here and quote verses to which they have no clue where they are from, if they are even from the qur'an what their context is, etc... pretty ignorant. And when I tell them to read the qur'an they don't want to lol...

My father and mother when we left africa had a negative image of muslims (without knowing anything) because my father and mother witnessed a hijabi woman next to a man who wanted a bribe before we left. We were being held up because the man wanted a bribe. Bribes in islam are forbidden. But what did we know?

Funny thing when they look back, today my mother has accepted Islam and wears the hijab herself :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 05:18:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_xh6WQLNOw

He became Muslim too. He was a christian. He has an interesting series of lectures called the purpose of life.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Yeah... Still don't get it.

If God revealed something for mankind, and you discover it, and it is for all mankind. Would you still be following your ancestors/forefathers? Even if they call to the opposite? I wouldn't, and I don't. I accepted Islam. It is indeed better than what other man made ways of life offer. God our creator knows what's best for us as he created us and informs us about ourselves and Himself.

I accept Muhammad (pbuh) as the messenger of God and I believe in God. You should read the qur'an, no muslim will make you a muslim or try to make you a muslim, as you yourself are the only one who can accept and submit himself to God.

The simple answer is. I accepted truth and I rejected falsehood. If you want to call that conversion.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
I don't get religion at all. I don't get any of it.

Religion is a superficial word. To me it denotes only rituals. The word for religion in Arabic is deen, it literally means way of life. In other words it a way of life you accept. That's what it means. By english definition of religion then it may mean going to church for mass, but then living life anyway you see fit. That's not the definition of deen. Islam teaches us how to live our lives and conduct ourselves even when it comes to business, even when it comes to work ethics, etc...

Everyone is able to chose how they want to live their life, we just happen to chose islam as our way of life.

God is one, and he sent messengers to all nations, according to Islam we believe God sent 124,000 prophets to all the nations of the earth throughout history. What they were given was for their distinct communities, what Islam brings is a message for all time for all mankind.

The way of life you chose can be that of your ancestors/forefathers, that which is around you if you are the type of person that goes any way the wind blows and you form your own on circmustances which may or may not be good for you, or you can through thought and reason accept a way of life through reason, observation and acceptance.

The best way of life is one that is ordained by God as he created us and understands us better than we understand each other or ourselves. Just look at the various systems of thought and ideologies that humans came up with without God and how they ended up? Just one example. Communism. People thought they were doing good through it but ultimately it brought horror to the lives of people even though it meant to bring peace and unity.

Islam is guidance from God almighty, and it's purpose is to make us better individuals and a better society, ultimately uniting all mankind regardless of race, gender or origins.

As you can see these people in these videos, they left their way of life and accepted islam as their way of life. They talk about what they were and how they lived their lives and how Islam changed their lives.

Indeed without Islam, I personally would be lost. Islam teaches me integrity and principles. If I wasn't muslim chances are I might have been drinking, clubbing, hunting girls endlessly, with no purpose in life, just wasting away time. Just one small example. Instead I live my life purposely and instead of using girls or drinking, I do healthy things, I married young, I am loyal to my wife. I try to use my time productively as best as I can wherever I am.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHt1-BZs5pc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 06:03:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWs26k55fqk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 08:43:57 PM
Out of the 6 million Muslims in USA, some 1.5 million are converts to Islam since 911:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTRR7z9Vc5I


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 04, 2012, 09:45:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF14AE-WErA


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2012, 04:08:15 AM
That's cute that you're racist and all, I am white and married a brown woman :)

That's very nice but you still haven't answered my other question....... ;D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 05, 2012, 04:44:12 AM
 :o


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 05, 2012, 04:58:54 AM
A-ahmed, not sure if you missed my earlier post, but I was wondering if you could show the dead body pics of people who have left Islam.

Do they stone them to death or hang them or what?

Thanks, buddy.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 05, 2012, 02:48:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAiNJYmnb_c


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 06, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5kfGi8VoE


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Archer77 on October 06, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
I don't get religion at all. I don't get any of it.

Perhaps your life is so full and meaningful of its own accord that you don't need desperate primitive fantasies to fill a giant sized whole were your brain is.   

Religion is for the desperate who are looking for a quick fix and don't want to invest the time trying to understand the natural world because, dammit, science be hard.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 06, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
Actually your perception is highly eurocentric/church centric. Islam encourages, science, thought, inquiry, thinking, rational, introspection, etc... It is in fact one thing that led me to Islam and it is what all others employ when coming to Islam. Alot of people who leave christianity for example leave it because it demands blind irrational faith in something that is irrational. Trinity for instance, God committing suicide for mankind's sins, God becoming human to 'understand us' even though He created us, that a single man has to be punished for what all of mankind did, does and will do (no accountability/responsibility and human sacrifice) The list goes on.

So many verses in the qur'an start with for those of thinking, for those that think, for those with understanding, for those that ponder, for those with wisdom, etc... Intellect and knowledge are a God given gift to humanity. It is what differentiates us from animals.

Furthermore sciences were developed and improved upon by Muslims alongside their faith in God. We have no problem in having faith in God, obeying God and employing ourselves in refining knowledge of the world. Europeans unfortunately do not give credit to the inventions, discoveries and sciences that have flourished in Europe thanks to Muslims.

In fact God encourages us to look within ourselves and around us literally observing the creation to know God.

‘We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that is the truth..." [41:53]

I know some atheists will say that the more they learn about science the more they disbelieve in God. For me on the other hand, the more I learn about how the world works, science, etc... the more I believe in God and indeed it led me to Islam.

‘‘Does not man see that We created him from a drop, yet there he is, an open antagonist! He makes likeness of us and forgets his own creation, saying "Who will give life to  bones when they are decayed?" Say "He Who made them in the first place will bring them back to life. He has total knowledge of each created thing. (36: 77-79)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 06, 2012, 08:47:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_J7yin8YnM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 06, 2012, 08:49:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1WRf8p41o4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ySAITGZrWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib-W-wp1ijM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 06, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
I know some atheists will say that the more they learn about science the more they disbelieve in God. For me on the other hand, the more I learn about how the world works, science, etc... the more I believe in God and indeed it led me to Islam.

I think it's been demonstrated quite conclusively that what you know about science can be summed up in two words: "sai... ens?"


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 07, 2012, 07:49:55 AM
I think it's been demonstrated quite conclusively that what you know about science can be summed up in two words: "sai... ens?"


Just because I rejected darwinism and your atheism does not mean I denounce science. I can talk all day long about the human body on a macro and micro level, but still do not accept the theory and belief of darwinism. It is something you personally cling onto because there are only two options. Either the universe is created by God or it magically accidentally happened and the belief in the darwin theory is the best you have.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Archer77 on October 07, 2012, 07:53:13 AM
Just because I rejected darwinism and your atheism does not mean I denounce science. I can talk all day long about the human body on a macro and micro level, but still do not accept the theory and belief of darwinism. It is something you personally cling onto because there are only two options. Either the universe is created by God or it magically accidentally happened and the belief in the darwin theory is the best you have.

It absolutely does mean you reject science.   


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 07, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
Science is a tool, darwinism is just a belief and a theory that not all people accept. Darwin doubted himself in his own writings saying if a complex organism were to be found his theories founded on visual observations would crumble. Indeed he did not even know the makeup of the cell as all he saw with his microscope was a blob.

Later atheists evolved darwin's theories with similar explanations but none the less it still remains a belief. This is not a thread for that.

I reject this theory/belief and not science. To me believing that we come from monkies and then further back from rodents and further even back sea creatures is nothing but conjecture. I am not obliged to believe in it and I do not see it as science.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 07, 2012, 09:47:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-gYMtYeAdE


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 07, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALazD-tslKM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 07, 2012, 12:36:03 PM
 :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v92l_QW7oQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niZVMrCyzW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vUsy5W4K_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tagWUbbANGc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 07, 2012, 12:41:17 PM
Just because I rejected darwinism and your atheism does not mean I denounce science.

The totality of your posts, and the nonsense you spout within them, stand as proof that you denounce science.


I can talk all day long about the human body on a macro and micro level, but still do not accept the theory and belief of darwinism.

Your acceptance of the theory of evolution is irrelevant. For one thing, you clearly aren't versed enough on the subject to have an informed opinion, so whatever opinion you do hold is worthless. Besides, your "accceptance" means nothing; the observable facts are what they and whether you choose to accept them has no bearing on them - or reality.


It is something you personally cling onto because there are only two options. Either the universe is created by God or it magically accidentally happened and the belief in the darwin theory is the best you have.

The "darwin theory" has nothing to do with the creation the Universe. You know nothing about science, your assertions that you do notwithstanding. As I said earlier, "the totality of your posts, and the nonsense you spout within them, stand as proof that you denounce science." This post only helps to reinforce that point, and to show just how completely clueless you are on scientific topics in general.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 07, 2012, 12:42:01 PM
 :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf0wQV9WslI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbz2ZC59_yw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra9QQ58b7JY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9o9bmmVl8E


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 07, 2012, 12:45:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl641IFO10g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TqPK5oYZBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64r-iWoTsX8


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 07, 2012, 05:16:38 PM
Please start your own thread thank you :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 07, 2012, 07:19:42 PM
Ahmed, I gotta hand it to you.

You get destroyed every day on here and you keep coming back for more.

Maybe you should go out and educate yourself.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 07, 2012, 08:01:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8232H1xvjC0


This is a common claim I hear often from converts and those born into other religions who later start to really study Islam. In '96 I was over at the apartment of one of the girls in my acting class. We ere rehearsing a scene we had to do together, and she had an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful tapestry on her wall, which I asked about it. She said it was a gift from her boyfriend and that it was verses from the Quran. I asked her if she was a Muslim, and she replied that she wasn't, but that her boyfriend was. Then she proceeded to tell me how Islam is not like how it's depicted on TV, and that it was soooo beautiful. I swear she almost started crying as she tried to describe for me the beauty she had found while learning about it. She was REALLY moved to the point of tears


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 07, 2012, 11:33:06 PM

This is a common claim I hear often from converts and those born into other religions who later start to really study Islam. In '96 I was over at the apartment of one of the girls in my acting class. We ere rehearsing a scene we had to do together, and she had an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful tapestry on her wall, which I asked about it. She said it was a gift from her boyfriend and that it was verses from the Quran. I asked her if she was a Muslim, and she replied that she wasn't, but that her boyfriend was. Then she proceeded to tell me how Islam is not like how it's depicted on TV, and that it was soooo beautiful. I swear she almost started crying as she tried to describe for me the beauty she had found while learning about it. She was REALLY moved to the point of tears

Islam also moved me to tears when I heard about the atrocities Muslims commit in the name of God, also the way they oppress women and the way Islam encouraged Muslims to despise and hate non muslims was very touching, the way they protest in western countries threatening to behead people who don't agree with them is truly beautiful.  I was especially moved when I learnt about their deep appreciation for terrorism and how they feel completely justified blowing up innocent people.  Islam is a very touching religion, it moves one similar to a bomb blast triggered by a Muslim and his/her Suicide Vest.  Truly beautiful religion.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 08, 2012, 03:38:07 AM

This is a common claim I hear often from converts and those born into other religions who later start to really study Islam. In '96 I was over at the apartment of one of the girls in my acting class. We ere rehearsing a scene we had to do together, and she had an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful tapestry on her wall, which I asked about it. She said it was a gift from her boyfriend and that it was verses from the Quran. I asked her if she was a Muslim, and she replied that she wasn't, but that her boyfriend was. Then she proceeded to tell me how Islam is not like how it's depicted on TV, and that it was soooo beautiful. I swear she almost started crying as she tried to describe for me the beauty she had found while learning about it. She was REALLY moved to the point of tears

It's soooo beautiful that she should be stoned to death for having an extra-marital relationship.

According to Islam at least....just like adulterers, people dressing differently, homosexuals, people leaving the religion, non-believers etc.

A truly peaceful religion....which advocates the use of the sword, military invasion and forced conversions to spread its 'message' in the name of peace.

People like that woman you mentioned are what the Soviets used to refer to as 'useful idiots'.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 08, 2012, 07:57:39 AM
Islam American patriotism also moved me to tears when I heard about the atrocities Muslims American soldiers commit in the name of God, country, and spreading democracyalso the way they oppress gays, minorities, and women and the way Islam the US government encouraged Muslims Americansto despise and hate non muslims was very touching, the way they protest in western countries threatening to behead arrest, imprison indefinitely, and strip away the constitutional rights of people who don't agree with them is truly beautiful.  I was especially moved when I learnt about the uncivilized savages who ran Abu Ghraib and their deep appreciation for terrorism as well as the systematic torture, and rape of innocent men, women, and children drug out of their homes in the middle of  the night after having their doors kicked in and how they feel completely justified blowing up innocent people.  Islam Blind faith in a treasonous neo-con agenda orchestrated by the craven greed of the military industrial complex is a very touching religion, it moves one similar to a bomb blast triggered by a Muslim lobotomized meat shield and his/her Suicide Vest. cowardly dropping white phosphorous on little children from miles away  Truly beautiful religion.

It's soooo beautiful that she should be stoned to death for having an extra-marital relationship.  According to Islam at least....just like adulterers, people dressing differently, homosexuals, people leaving the religion, non-believers etc.

I haven't studied it enough to definitively state that is what the religion prescribes. I can only say, my understanding is that these attrocities are the doctrines of extremists... the kind the USA and it's military industrial complex have been radicalizing, funding, and getting into bed with.

I wasn't the one saying Islam was so beautiful, she was. She was trying to describe for me the beauty she had found in her boyfriend's religion.

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A truly peaceful religion USA military industrial complex....which advocates the use of the sword, cowardly predator drones, depleted uranium, white phosphorous, genocide, regional destabilization, military invasion and forced conversions  regime change to spread its 'message' in the name of peace and democracy.

People like that woman you mentioned those sheeple who blindly believe the propaganda they are spoon-fed by a government that is clearly attacking it's own citizens are what the Soviets used to refer to as 'useful idiots' which is what ]the rest of the world calls Americans who are generally naive and easy to convince by using a certain type of argument based upon nothing but pure ignorance, and the inaccurate stereotypes they have been brainwashed into believing since childhood.

I wonder if you will see the irony of the 2 previous statements that I have quoted with appropriate substitutions where warranted. All I can say is, I am grateful to be aware that not ALL Americans or American servicemen are as brain-dead as your leaders believe, ... otherwise I'd think you were all a nation full of Sarah Palins and idiots like those Westboro Baptist church guys.

I have many Muslim friends, none of whom are anything at all like the radicals depicted in Western media. With the exception of one particular doctor in Mumbai, all the Muslim men I have ever encountered have held themselves to a level of dignity and personal accountability that demonstrated true respect for humanity in general, and women in particular.

I don't know about Islam, ...but I do recognize the hypocrisy that is so prevalent in those professing certain faiths, ...and I know bullshit & hate propaganda when I hear it.  It only makes me want to discover more about Islam, to use my God given critical thinking skills to discern between truth and lies.

I encourage you all to do the same.

Thank You Ahmed for this refreshing and thought provoking thread.
(ps: Next time, could you be a bit more sparing on the examples. ;) ) 

With that, I'm off to prepare for my noon Webcast.


Title: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 08:45:35 AM
You can post away in here. Here is my response to your videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2mQ9CdMvq8


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 08:59:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqhxX6rkSk


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 09:06:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v7jGrC6iTc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:05:22 AM
I thought the best way to fight ignorance and Islamophobia would be to post other Muslims who can tell their stories, how they came to know Islam, etc...

I don't 'qualify' to these getbiggers as a former Christian because I no longer believe in the church, the trinity, etc... When I try to tell them how I studied the bible, Christianity, Christianity's history, etc... and how I can quote to them the bible better than they can, I do not 'qualify' because I don't believe in the trinity :) All they can do is copy paste giant blogs and not think for themselves. None of them have read the Qur'an. The many questions I had in the bible were answered in the Qur'an.

To the atheists I clearly am 'anti-science' because I don't believe we come from monkies that came from rodents that ultimately came from sea creatures.

To the politics lovers I betrayed 'western civilization' because I talk about the atrocities and hypocrisy committed by western governments. When I expose the mainstream media as a fraud, they respond that I "watch too many youtube videos" LoL

I will post some threads explaining our beliefs. I did not come to 'convert people' but I joined here for bodybuilding. I only began responding when I saw islamophobia, hatred, lies, and misinformation. The Qur'an is quite explicit about this. That we are only to be messengers, it is God that guides people and people's hearts that want to be guided. God responds to Muhammad (pbuh) in the qur'an you are not a manager over people but only a messenger and do not grieve for those that do not accept the message even if they humiliate you or denounce you etc...

The core belief in Islam is our belief that God is absolute, unique and one, that we do not worship anything in the creation and only our creator. Which is known as Tawheed. I may begin with that if you find that interesting.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:18:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRDyOaCJ3t0


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:22:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hevXbVrEsvc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 08, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
I thought the best way to fight ignorance and Islamophobia would be to post other Muslims who can tell their stories, how they came to know Islam, etc...

I don't 'qualify' to these getbiggers as a former Christian because I no longer believe in the church, the trinity, etc... When I try to tell them how I studied the bible, Christianity, Christianity's history, etc... and how I can quote to them the bible better than they can, I do not 'qualify' because I don't believe in the trinity :) All they can do is copy paste giant blogs and not think for themselves. None of them have read the Qur'an. The many questions I had in the bible were answered in the Qur'an.

To the atheists I clearly am 'anti-science' because I don't believe we come from monkies that came from rodents that ultimately came from sea creatures.

To the politics lovers I betrayed 'western civilization' because I talk about the atrocities and hypocrisy committed by western governments. When I expose the mainstream media as a fraud, they respond that I "watch too many youtube videos" LoL

I will post some threads explaining our beliefs. I did not come to 'convert people' but I joined here for bodybuilding. I only began responding when I saw islamophobia, hatred, lies, and misinformation. The Qur'an is quite explicit about this. That we are only to be messengers, it is God that guides people and people's hearts that want to be guided. God responds to Muhammad (pbuh) in the qur'an you are not a manager over people but only a messenger and do not grieve for those that do not accept the message even if they humiliate you or denounce you etc...

The core belief in Islam is our belief that God is absolute, unique and one, that we do not worship anything in the creation and only our creator. Which is known as Tawheed. I may begin with that if you find that interesting.
When Muslims stop preaching hatred towards non muslims, when they stop advocating and sponsoring terrorism, when they stop oppressing women, when they stop mutilating the genitals of young girls, when they stop arrogantly and defiantly believing they are right and everyone else is wrong and when they stop killing and threatening others because they feel offended, other people or groups might, just might begin to listen, until then Muslims will always be seen as barbaric, goat herding, semi literate towel heads who live in the dark ages and worship a Pedo!


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:33:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-MIZdCKLoQ


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 10:49:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRxRdIBsLIk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 08, 2012, 04:49:43 PM
When Muslims stop preaching hatred towards non muslims, when they stop advocating and sponsoring terrorism, when they stop oppressing women, when they stop mutilating the genitals of young girls, when they stop arrogantly and defiantly believing they are right and everyone else is wrong and when they stop killing and threatening others because they feel offended, other people or groups might, just might begin to listen, until then Muslims will always be seen as barbaric, goat herding, semi literate towel heads who live in the dark ages and worship a Pedo!

Not a flame E-Kul, just a clarification of what I seem to be hearing from you...

Is it your position that you would be ready to learn about Islam, ...when perverse extremists masquerading as Muslims stop killing and threatening others? Is that your position?

You do realize that's like saying you hate Christians and would never listen to them because those darned Westboro Baptist Church guys keep picketing the funerals of American servicemen, and until those Westboro Baptists church guys stop cheering American deaths, those Christians can take a flying leap.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 08, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
Not a flame E-Kul, just a clarification of what I seem to be hearing from you...

Is it your position that you would be ready to learn about Islam, ...when perverse extremists masquerading as Muslims stop killing and threatening others? Is that your position?

You do realize that's like saying you hate Christians and would never listen to them because those darned Westboro Baptist Church guys keep picketing the funerals of American servicemen, and until those Westboro Baptists church guys stop cheering American deaths, those Christians can take a flying leap.
It is a lie that extremists masquerading as Muslims are the problem.  Their are no moderate Muslims, here in Australia, when they protested, the so called moderates came out in droves holding up signs to behead people.  WTF is that?, their was a woman who gave the sign to Behead others to her 4 year old Son to hold up,  if that's the attitude of the moderates, well God help us all.  Anyway, it's the whole perverse religion fuelled by the HATE FILLED KORAN.  They are programmed to behave in an anti social and violent way that leads them to be unable to integrate into any Western secular society.  Muslims are closed minded and arrogant as a result of their religious beliefs.  Until Muslims wake up and see they are the reason they are vilified and disliked, they will continue to be treated like the barbarians they are.  Muslims must change their ways and behaviours, otherwise they will continue to draw negativity towards them, they remind me of a naughty child who refuses to take responsibility for their own behaviour, until the child accepts responsibility, the parent will continue to discipline and punish them.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 08, 2012, 05:30:34 PM

To the politics lovers I betrayed 'western civilization' because I talk about the atrocities and hypocrisy committed by western governments.

LOL, Get used to that. They've been calling me Anti-American since 2003 at least.

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I will post some threads explaining our beliefs. I did not come to 'convert people' but I joined here for bodybuilding. I only began responding when I saw islamophobia, hatred, lies, and misinformation.

I know the feeling. The Anti-Muslim sentiment that has swept western countries reminds me of the Anti-Jewish sentiment that swept through Europe under the Nazis. It's all too familiar, ...and the truly disgusting part is... it's the very same puppet masters pulling the strings this go around. The last time it was the Ashkenazi, ...this time they're targeting Muslims.

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The Qur'an is quite explicit about this. That we are only to be messengers, it is God that guides people and people's hearts that want to be guided. God responds to Muhammad (pbuh) in the qur'an you are not a manager over people but only a messenger and do not grieve for those that do not accept the message even if they humiliate you or denounce you etc...

Sounds quite similar to network marketing's SW4 Rule:

SOME WILL be interested
SOME WON'T be interested
SO WHAT?
SOMEONE'S WAITING to hear all about what you have to offer.

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The core belief in Islam is our belief that God is absolute, unique and one, that we do not worship anything in the creation and only our creator. Which is known as Tawheed. I may begin with that if you find that interesting.

Funny you mention that. In 2007 I was dragged into a debate with my best friend's brother. We were sitting in a hotel room, and he was going on and on about sport hunting (not for food mind you, ...simply for the love of hunting an animal and killing it) I was obviously disgusted by that idea, and couldn't manage to call up a poker face when I needed it. As I tried to discretely excuse myself from the conversation, he got offended that I was not very enthusiastic about the idea of hunting down an animal and killing it just for fun. When I (out of respect for my best friend) further tried to disengage him by simply saying "Let's just agree to disagree" He grew enraged, and incensed, and started screaming Bible verses at me, accusing me of worshipping the creation instead of the creator. I couldn't believe this guy was actually using the Bible to justify the taking of life. I remember thinking what next? Using the bible to justify rape, murder, plunder, pillage, incest, adultery & fornication too? 'Cause it's all in there as well.  ::)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
You keep talking about the "HATE FILLED KORAN" but you have not even read the qur'an.

You keep copy pasting from islamophobe blogs and sites, you are spoon fed what to believe and say and think you are thinking.

For instance you copy pasted the 'kill them wherever you find them' and 'behead the unbelievers', and i am paraphrasing, yet you have not read what comes before or after. It refers to battles, it refers to armies of disbelievers attacking Muslims. Beheading oOoOoOh, guess what, guns, predator drones, f16s didn't exist, swords did and beheading and smiting fingers was what you would do with a sword.

You can't seem to get out of this loop of them evil mozlems. This thread proves you wrong as all these people including myself have embraced Islam. What's stopping you from reading the qur'an with no preconceived and premade notions.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 05:40:59 PM
Funny you mention that. In 2007 I was dragged into a debate with my best friend's brother. We were sitting in a hotel room, and he was going on and on about sport hunting (not for food mind you, ...simply for the love of hunting an animal and killing it) I was obviously disgusted by that idea, and couldn't manage to call up a poker face when I needed it. As I tried to discretely excuse myself from the conversation, he got offended that I was not very enthusiastic about the idea of hunting down an animal and killing it just for fun. When I (out of respect for my best friend) further tried to disengage him by simply saying "Let's just agree to disagree" He grew enraged, and incensed, and started screaming Bible verses at me, accusing me of worshipping the creation instead of the creator. I couldn't believe this guy was actually using the Bible to justify the taking of life. I remember thinking what next? Using the bible to justify rape, murder, plunder, pillage, incest, adultery & fornication too? 'Cause it's all in there as well.  ::)

Well Islam does not allow killing animals for fun. In fact before any animal right's organizations, islam had rules about animal's rights. Animals and only certain animals can be slaughtered and in a specific manner that is least harmful to it, without even allowing the animal to see the knife, that's behind the whole 'halal' slaughter of meat for eating. From a hygene perspective, from a respect perspective and treatment of the animal, etc... Not allowing cruelty. The prophet (pbuh) even forbade animals to be overburden, like overloading a camel, let alone torturing or hunting for fun.

The prophet (pbuh) forbade any kind of target practice of living moving things even.

When I mention we only worship the creator, it means God only, not the creation (eg: human, animals, objects, trees, idols, etc...). That's what I meant by that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quhVxLUwiBw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WJ-_EUR6Ho

You can read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_animals


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 08, 2012, 05:47:43 PM
It is a lie that extremists masquerading as Muslims are the problem.  Their are no moderate Muslims, here in Australia, when they protested, the so called moderates came out in droves holding up signs to behead people.  WTF is that?, their was a woman who gave the sign to Behead others to her 4 year old Son to hold up,  if that's the attitude of the moderates, well God help us all.

So if they were filled with hatred and calling for beheadings, ...what makes you refer to them as moderates? Is that what the newscaster labelled them?

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Anyway, it's the whole perverse religion fuelled by the HATE FILLED KORAN. 

And you draw this conclusion as a result of having studied the Qur'an?

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They are programmed to behave in an anti social and violent way that leads them to be unable to integrate into any Western secular society.  Muslims are closed minded and arrogant as a result of their religious beliefs.

Really? I have found the exact opposite. I have found Muslims to be very open minded. I think sometimes we confuse closed mindedness with assurance. I have found muslims to be very assured in their beliefs, but always willing to listen. They're not always willing to believe, but will open mindedly examine.

Can i ask how much personal daily interaction you have with Muslims?

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Until Muslims wake up and see they are the reason they are vilified and disliked, they will continue to be treated like the barbarians they are.  Muslims must change their ways and behaviours, otherwise they will continue to draw negativity towards them, they remind me of a naughty child who refuses to take responsibility for their own behaviour, until the child accepts responsibility, the parent will continue to discipline and punish them.

I could make a few appropriate noun substitutions to the above, ...but why bother? I'm sure you know where I would take it anyway.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 06:18:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HowjbTbaBnA

Go and tell her that Islam oppresses women lol.

You brought up a good point 24kt, I doubt any of these guys ever met a muslim except through FOX & CNN LOL

I know for a fact they did not read a qu'ran just by the way they copy paste typical verses from the qur'an out of context from the usual islamophobe blogs and websites. And they outright say they don't want to, so kind of hard to argue with such means :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ris4xUBC0aI


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 08, 2012, 07:03:12 PM
I've worked with several Muslims, they all despised the religion and reluctantly pretended to care because of their families.  They all seemed doomed to living someone else's life.  I felt really sorry for them, when i asked them, why didn't they just leave the religion, they said they couldn't and that I wouldn't understand.  What a fucked way to raise your children.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
^You must be a good friend of Ergun Canner :) You are a very credible individual have a good night mate. Oh and maybe some day you will read the qur'an. It may be a similar case of what happened with my parents, how they in their ignorance had a bad taste for muslims because of a single experience of witnessing some muslims and a standing by hijabi causing us stress while travelling and my parents hated arabs/muslims. Then hah... we learned about Islam and my mother today wears hijab.

You never know, maybe God is testing you and driving you to actually find out about this religion but you persistently keep re-enforcing your ignorance by going in circles repeating the same damnations from islamophobe blogs and websites, not really thinking for yourself except what you are being politically spoon fed.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 08, 2012, 08:53:47 PM
I've worked with several Muslims, they all despised the religion and reluctantly pretended to care because of their families.  They all seemed doomed to living someone else's life.  I felt really sorry for them, when i asked them, why didn't they just leave the religion, they said they couldn't and that I wouldn't understand.  What a fucked way to raise your children.

Interesting.... so if what I'm hearing is accurate, you've worked with several people who "disguised" themselves as Muslims, but who admittedly despised the religion... yet you refer to them as Muslim? hmmm...

If I told you that I was a man, who secretly hated my manhood, thought all men were idiots, and desperately longed to be a woman, and would wear pretty lacy things, and female clothing when my family wasn't around....

Would that make me:
  • A) Delusional,
  • B) A transvestite,
  • C) A Liar,
  • D) Someone telling you what I secretly suspect you may want to hear,
  • E) Possibly a combination of A,C, & D,

Simply saying I'm a man, doesn't make me one physically. I could wish to identify as a man, ...but it still wouldn't make me one

I would think that someone telling me that they despised a certain religion and only pretended to like it would automatically be a very large clue to me that perhaps they sh/could not be considered a believer of that faith, ...to me, they would most definitely be considered a non-believer, ...but that's just me.

Just for the record, just so we're clear, I didn't mean have you ever discussed Islam with Muslims, I meant how much personal interaction daily interaction do you have with Muslims, ...not non-muslims. Not referring to discussions about the religion itself, but rather having the opportunity to simply observe them in their day to day lives, ...to witness the character they display (or lack thereof) as the case may be, up close & personal?

BTW: My sympathies for your co-workers. Their plight reminds me of many people who label themselves with a religious label, simply because it is what their parents told them they were, yet they have no indepth knowlege of the religion or even any respect for it themselves.

They will often look at individual fools & hypocrites, and believe such representation is indicative of what the faith or religion is all about, yet do not realize that as long as they do not believe in a particular religion, they are part of the problem that contributes to the misrepresentation of the religion, as long as they continue to apply that inaccurate label to themselves, ...and as long as those without access to a true representative or ambassador continue to see & accept such distortions & misrepresentations as representative.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 08:58:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlLhKHicupQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 08, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNgJxkCR3U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsccVJRkjjM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 09, 2012, 02:18:18 AM
Couple of quick questions.

1. What's the proper way to kill your daugther after she gets raped and brings shame to your family? Is stoning her okay?

2. Is there a limit to how many women I can throw acid into the faces of if they shame me?

Thanks, buddy. I'm thinking of converting soon.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 09, 2012, 03:23:48 AM
I haven't studied it enough to definitively state that is what the religion prescribes. I can only say, my understanding is that these attrocities are the doctrines of extremists... the kind the USA and it's military industrial complex have been radicalizing, funding, and getting into bed with.

I wasn't the one saying Islam was so beautiful, she was. She was trying to describe for me the beauty she had found in her boyfriend's religion.

I wonder if you will see the irony of the 2 previous statements that I have quoted with appropriate substitutions where warranted. All I can say is, I am grateful to be aware that not ALL Americans or American servicemen are as brain-dead as your leaders believe, ... otherwise I'd think you were all a nation full of Sarah Palins and idiots like those Westboro Baptist church guys.

I have many Muslim friends, none of whom are anything at all like the radicals depicted in Western media. With the exception of one particular doctor in Mumbai, all the Muslim men I have ever encountered have held themselves to a level of dignity and personal accountability that demonstrated true respect for humanity in general, and women in particular.

I don't know about Islam, ...but I do recognize the hypocrisy that is so prevalent in those professing certain faiths, ...and I know bullshit & hate propaganda when I hear it.  It only makes me want to discover more about Islam, to use my God given critical thinking skills to discern between truth and lies.

I encourage you all to do the same.

Thank You Ahmed for this refreshing and thought provoking thread.
(ps: Next time, could you be a bit more sparing on the examples. ;) )  

With that, I'm off to prepare for my noon Webcast.

I'm not American and yes their government does have massive faults but at least they allow a far higher degree of personal freedoms as opposed to an Islamic state.

No nation is perfect, but some are worse than others.

Religious fundamentalism of Christians is annoying but still somewhat tolerable as they're not generally killing people or setting up bombs, on the other hand their are a LOT of extremist Moslems whose terrorist actions and violent protests have caused much of the non-Islamic world to despise them.

I've said before I'm against military intervention in the Middle East and that should just be left alone to do whatever they want.
The same military forces can then be used to keep the Moslems out of the West to ensure they said in their Islamic utopia's and aren't corrupted by our evil systems.

Western governments should in fact formulate alliances and programmes with their Islamic governments to help protect the Moslem citizens from the vile evils of the West and prohibit them from being contaminated by our secular culture.... ;D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 09, 2012, 06:38:46 AM
I'm not American

Oh dear... I'm sooo sorry for the inadvertent insult  ;)

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and yes their government does have massive faults but at least they allow a far higher degree of personal freedoms as opposed to an Islamic state.

Thanks to exceptional PR over the years, that is the natural assumption, but given the steady erosion of freedoms there, one really has to sit down and take a tally to determine if that is really the case.

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No nation is perfect, but some are worse than others.

True. ...and when a nation starts to believe it's own manufactured PR, it's really in trouble.

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Religious fundamentalism of Christians is annoying but still somewhat tolerable as they're not generally killing people or setting up bombs,

Excuse me, ahem, ...have you forgotten about the IRA. As I recall those Christians did a pretty good job of setting up bombs and killing people all over the UK and Ireland for years. C'mon Dude, you're time zone is 5 hrs ahead of EDT. Don't tell you've so quickly forgotten about the IRA

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on the other hand their are a LOT of extremist Moslems whose terrorist actions and violent protests have caused much of the non-Islamic world to despise them.

Are there really? Or is there alot of very negative press that skews & filters the representations we get to see. It's been my observation that the only time we ever see mass protests in the west, it is due to some deliberate provocation by attacking something they find sacred.  Westerners don't understand it because with very few exceptions, westerners don't find very much of anything sacred.

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I've said before I'm against military intervention in the Middle East and that should just be left alone to do whatever they want.
The same military forces can then be used to keep the Moslems out of the West to ensure they said in their Islamic utopia's and aren't corrupted by our evil systems.

Western governments should in fact formulate alliances and programmes with their Islamic governments to help protect the Moslem citizens from the vile evils of the West and prohibit them from being contaminated by our secular culture....


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 07:14:35 AM
Couple of quick questions.

1. What's the proper way to kill your daugther after she gets raped and brings shame to your family? Is stoning her okay?

2. Is there a limit to how many women I can throw acid into the faces of if they shame me?

Thanks, buddy. I'm thinking of converting soon.



Sorry but you are asking the wrong person in the wrong thread. This is a thread about Islam and Muslims who accepted to follow Islam.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 09, 2012, 09:15:29 AM
Oh dear... I'm sooo sorry for the inadvertent insult  ;)

Thanks to exceptional PR over the years, that is the natural assumption, but given the steady erosion of freedoms there, one really has to sit down and take a tally to determine if that is really the case.

True. ...and when a nation starts to believe it's own manufactured PR, it's really in trouble.

Excuse me, ahem, ...have you forgotten about the IRA. As I recall those Christians did a pretty good job of setting up bombs and killing people all over the UK and Ireland for years. C'mon Dude, you're time zone is 5 hrs ahead of EDT. Don't tell you've so quickly forgotten about the IRA

Are there really? Or is there alot of very negative press that skews & filters the representations we get to see. It's been my observation that the only time we ever see mass protests in the west, it is due to some deliberate provocation by attacking something they find sacred.  Westerners don't understand it because with very few exceptions, westerners don't find very much of anything sacred.


I'm not British...or Irish  ;D

Anyway, the terrorism conducted by the IRA was more of a political one to force Northern Ireland to be part of the Republic of Ireland.

The Protestants support British rule while the Catholics don't.
It has also more to with the fact that many of the Protestants are descendants of England and Scotland.
It's more political and had no world-wide attacks that caused global problems.

The IRA were also sometimes at least half-decent enough to phone first and warn that a bomb was going to go off so the people could evacuate.....I don't think Al-Qaeda have ever done that  ;D

There is a tendency these days for massive political correctness but the fact is that most terrorist bombings and killings are committed by Moslems such as the recent attacks on Christians and churches in Nigeria.

If there was no 911 then I don't think the US would have attacked Middle Eastern countries.
The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 is probably due to American support of Israel as well as bases in Saudi Arabia and other absolute monarchies who are propped up by the West.
I believe they support Israel as it is a counter-weight in the region and helps maintain a balance of power that is also in the US interests so I can understand their reasoning.

Also as much as I despise the absolute monarchies, the bases are there to prop up those regimes in order to ensure a guaranteed oil supply. It does make sense even though I disagree with the concept.

But attacking the West via terrorism doesn't help the problem and neither does Moslem actions of pushing their religions in our faces and praying in the streets and making a big show of it etc. It only causes further resentment towards them.
In my opinion, their culture is generally incompatible with Western values and beliefs.

And yes there has been an erosion of freedoms in the West and there are a lot of problems which need sorting out, but compared to an Islamic state, there is still quite a lot of personal freedom such as freedom of association, speech, sexuality, religion etc.

However even these freedoms are not necessarily perfect either but still generally a lot better than in an Islamic or a non-secular state.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Griffith on October 09, 2012, 09:17:52 AM
I know of several ex-Moslems myself who are Pakistani and who prefer to live a normal life and are much happier now.

They are however quite well educated.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
Normal life? Alcohol, clubbing?  ::)

What us muslims are not normal for worshipping God, abstaining from alcohol, dressing modestly, amongst other things.

What is normal to you, may not be normal to others.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: pedro01 on October 09, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
Normal life? Alcohol, clubbing?  ::)

What us muslims are not normal for worshipping God, abstaining from alcohol, dressing modestly, amongst other things.

What is normal to you, may not be normal to others.

Like blowing up infidels for instance?


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: pedro01 on October 09, 2012, 09:55:21 AM

Yes, or brutally lashing people for drinking wine, stoning women in pits for partaking in a fundamental human right, or cutting off the hands of candy thiefs.

Yeah - I don't do any of that stuff. How odd I must appear to those with a semtex waistcoat full of ball bearings wired to a backup phone detonator so their handler can murder them if they chicken out.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 09, 2012, 10:29:06 AM
I'm not British...or Irish  ;D

Anyway, the terrorism conducted by the IRA was more of a political one to force Northern Ireland to be part of the Republic of Ireland.

So what you're saying is that it's OK to commit terrorism, ...as long as it's motives are purely political, not religious? Is that what you're saying?

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The Protestants support British rule while the Catholics don't.

Sounds like lines were drawn along religious lines to me

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It has also more to with the fact that many of the Protestants are descendants of England and Scotland.
It's more political and had no world-wide attacks that caused global problems.

Uh... I beg to differ. There were attacks all over the place, but since alot of funds and lobbyists and a lot of dirty hands were in America, we didn't see much coverage in MSM in North America.

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The IRA were also sometimes at least half-decent enough to phone first and warn that a bomb was going to go off so the people could evacuate.....I don't think Al-Qaeda have ever done that  ;D

You mean as opposed to today's new breed of terrorist & terrorist supporters who will only warn their well connected mayoral friends that perhaps they shouldn't fly that day?

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There is a tendency these days for massive political correctness but the fact is that most terrorist bombings and killings are committed by Moslems such as the recent attacks on Christians and churches in Nigeria.

I believe that bombings & killings that are credited to muslims receive a whole heckuvalot of air time, but that most terrorist bombings and killings have been committed by governments either overtly or covertly, ...but since these actions have not be given the 'terrorism' label, have not been recognized as such by a dumbed down & drugged up body of people who have been rendered incapable of critical thought.

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If there was no 911 then I don't think the US would have attacked Middle Eastern countries.

Of course they wouldn't have. That's exactly why 911 occured in the first place... in order to provide the diplomatic cover America needed to justify further incursion into the ME. It was the justification for the ushering in of the Patriot Act (written prior to 911) to clamp down on Americans, and the start of the takedown of the Republic. dismantling American rights piece by piece, ...with the support of a populace gripped by fear.

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The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 is probably due to American support of Israel as well as bases in Saudi Arabia and other absolute monarchies who are propped up by the West.
I believe they support Israel as it is a counter-weight in the region and helps maintain a balance of power that is also in the US interests so I can understand their reasoning.

The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 was to position American to make war, with the support of her citizens. A citizenry in shock, after the mass triggering of the reptilian response in their pysches, which shut down their ability to think clearly. Goebbels would have been proud. Finally people started rallying behind the illegitimate pResident, ...the one who was pelted with eggs during his inauguration ceremony.

On September 10th, he was the village idiot from Texas.
On September 12th, he was The Commander in Chief.

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so as much as I despise the absolute monarchies, the bases are there to prop up those regimes in order to ensure a guaranteed oil supply. It does make sense even though I disagree with the concept.

The bases are there to offer supposed protection from enemies who have previously been armed to the teeth by the very same people coming with offers of protection now.

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But attacking the West via terrorism doesn't help the problem and neither does Moslem actions of pushing their religions in our faces and praying in the streets and making a big show of it etc. It only causes further resentment towards them.

When did Muslims attack the west?

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In my opinion, their culture is generally incompatible with Western values and beliefs.

And what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with their culture?

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And yes there has been an erosion of freedoms in the West and there are a lot of problems which need sorting out, but compared to an Islamic state, there is still quite a lot of personal freedom such as freedom of association, speech, sexuality, religion etc.

However even these freedoms are not necessarily perfect either but still generally a lot better than in an Islamic or a non-secular state.

ps: My apologies Ahmed. It looks like somehow this thread has veered off topic.  


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 12:37:44 PM
So any of you fellow devout Christians driving predator drones that target weddings and family gatherings?

You are all spoon fed to believe all this rather than able to think for yourself.

Reverberating politically motivated headlines is not having knowledge or the capacity to think.

To make a point clear, these so called ex muslims are in the following categories:

a. Never were muslim and are just frauds

b. Never knew anything about islam nor ever practised islam or took the effort to find out about islam and claim they were 'muslim'

c. Similar to the above situation but saw profitability in this day and age to make money from islamophobia and I will post some examples of that. One such person is Ali Hirsi, a complete fraud as exposed by an investigative Dutch journalist.

d. Did not understand islam and in their heart just wanted to fulfill their desires, christianity opens a gateway to that as you are basically going to heaven no matter what and you can do whatever you want and "Jesus died for your sins". Convenient delusion.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
That's okay don't feed the trolls.

There's millions of more Muslim converts who can speak about Islam and demonstrate how these hate filled fellas are ignorant and just keep repeating politically guided headlines.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 12:51:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQAVUcD-hEE


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 04:57:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3BpnpAagQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6r7H988Tc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYd4mOwI5w4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLdpOd9KioM


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 09, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrKqqbSbK98


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 10, 2012, 02:56:05 AM
So what you're saying is that it's OK to commit terrorism, ...as long as it's motives are purely political, not religious? Is that what you're saying?

Sounds like lines were drawn along religious lines to me

Uh... I beg to differ. There were attacks all over the place, but since alot of funds and lobbyists and a lot of dirty hands were in America, we didn't see much coverage in MSM in North America.

You mean as opposed to today's new breed of terrorist & terrorist supporters who will only warn their well connected mayoral friends that perhaps they shouldn't fly that day?

I believe that bombings & killings that are credited to muslims receive a whole heckuvalot of air time, but that most terrorist bombings and killings have been committed by governments either overtly or covertly, ...but since these actions have not be given the 'terrorism' label, have not been recognized as such by a dumbed down & drugged up body of people who have been rendered incapable of critical thought.

Of course they wouldn't have. That's exactly why 911 occured in the first place... in order to provide the diplomatic cover America needed to justify further incursion into the ME. It was the justification for the ushering in of the Patriot Act (written prior to 911) to clamp down on Americans, and the start of the takedown of the Republic. dismantling American rights piece by piece, ...with the support of a populace gripped by fear.

The motivation for the terrorist attacks on 911 was to position American to make war, with the support of her citizens. A citizenry in shock, after the mass triggering of the reptilian response in their pysches, which shut down their ability to think clearly. Goebbels would have been proud. Finally people started rallying behind the illegitimate pResident, ...the one who was pelted with eggs during his inauguration ceremony.

On September 10th, he was the village idiot from Texas.
On September 12th, he was The Commander in Chief.

The bases are there to offer supposed protection from enemies who have previously been armed to the teeth by the very same people coming with offers of protection now.

When did Muslims attack the west?

And what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with their culture?

ps: My apologies Ahmed. It looks like somehow this thread has veered off topic.  

"And yes there has been an erosion of freedoms in the West and there are a lot of problems which need sorting out, but compared to an Islamic state, there is still quite a lot of personal freedom such as freedom of association, speech, sexuality, religion etc.

However even these freedoms are not necessarily perfect either but still generally a lot better than in an Islamic or a non-secular state."

With regards to Northern Ireland, check your history. The 'Protestants' are the descendants of Scotland and England so of course they don't want to be part of Ireland.

And no terrorism is never justified but in this case it is actually political.

And Islamic terrorists are pretty much the main lot strapping themselves up with bombs and trying to blow up planes, this is a fact.
Just a few days ago it happened in Nigeria and has been ongoing and I saw this report on Al Jazeera.

You have got to be joking if you think Islam is compatible with Western culture.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:10:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG-tUghf_c8


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:48:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_iXrNwYsb0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:48:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx11KZEwI7M


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:56:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfnagknpFBs


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 09:03:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84q0f4vO6nU


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 10, 2012, 09:48:47 AM

You have got to be joking if you think Islam is compatible with Western culture.

I didn't say it was, ...and I didn't say it wasn't, ...you said it wasn't.
What I asked of you was what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with Islamic culture?


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 10, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
I didn't say it was, ...and I didn't say it wasn't, ...you said it wasn't.
What I asked of you was what are these western values & beliefs that you believe are so incompatible with Islamic culture?

Freedom of speech is a big incompatibility. The ability to publish cartoons without fearing reprisals and having bounties placed on your head. The ability to speak openly without fearing that you'll end up like Theo Van Gogh. I could go on.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 12:54:37 PM
Freedom of speech is a big incompatibility. The ability to publish cartoons without fearing reprisals and having bounties placed on your head. The ability to speak openly without fearing that you'll end up like Theo Van Gogh. I could go on.

oh lol freedom of speech.

In the UK you can be jailed for listening or checking 'terrorist material' that could include islamic lectures that speak about war or conflict or by certain individuals that the government deemds 'terrorist' or 'terrorist influenced' or whatever the hell they want to come up with. Even just seeing it or viewing it. Imagine someone opens some videos out of curiosity. Bam, they are now associated with 'terrorism' and all the other bs the government can now make up and charge them with.

In the UK a priest was jailed and fined for saying homosexuality is a sin.

Even in Canada, some dude bought CDs with stories of the prophets which was by Anwar Al-Awlaki. He was a police officer even and not even that a practicing muslim. The police raiding his home and quesitoned him what his 'ties to al-qaeada and anwar al awlaki' are. Even though the lecture series is purely about exactly what the title says, the stories of the prophets.

In France. Try as an exercise of freedom of speech being pro hitler or pro nazis, or anti-jews, or denying the holocaust. You'll be jailed, fined, lose your job, amongst other things for advocating hate speech. Denial of holocaust is a law.

Recently ANOTHER 'comic' was posted in a satirical magazine that mocks religion in france. It was allowed on grounds of 'freedom of speech', but protests were clamped down even though they were peaceful and people arrested for speaking out. So much for freedom of speech.

Or how about Muslim women being banned from wearing hijab. Or how about niqabis who are banned from wearing niqab outside. They get fined and jailed. "Freedom of expression"

In the US there's things that are labeled 'hate speech' that are not hate speech for example criticizing Israel. Yet slandering Islam is 'freedom of speech'. Slander is not criticism.

It's just a lame and hypocricy.

Freedom of speech SHOULD be restricted as hate speech is not freedom of speech, that's abuse of freedom of speech. There's a reason there are laws relating to 'libel', slander of people, etc... but oh I know it will be argued its for 'living ppl only' well muslims are living even if our prophet (peace be upon him) passed away. There should internationally be a law against slander of religions, period. It is one thing to debate and criticize but to slander and demonize is a whole other issue.

It's such hypocricy. It is quite clear it is an all out attack on Islam and Muslims. Pretty sad. People see it for what it is. It won't last forever.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 10, 2012, 02:00:21 PM
oh lol freedom of speech.

Yes. Freedom of speech.

In the UK blah blah blah

I don't live in the UK, so it's not my concern, but it's hardly a bastion of freedom; they already live in an almost totalitarian society, that, in my opinion, is simply incompatible with "western ideals." They just dress it up with fancy hats.


Even in Canada, some dude bought CDs with stories of the prophets which was by Anwar Al-Awlaki. He was a police officer even and not even that a practicing muslim. The police raiding his home and quesitoned him what his 'ties to al-qaeada and anwar al awlaki' are. Even though the lecture series is purely about exactly what the title says, the stories of the prophets.

If this happened (and although I only have your word for it, but given the insanity that's recently taken over I don't think it's far-fetched that it did actually happen) he was still able to buy those stories and listen to them and talk about them. As for the stupid overreaction by police it's flat out contemptible and incompatible with "western ideals."


In France. Try as an exercise of freedom of speech being pro hitler or pro nazis, or anti-jews, or denying the holocaust. You'll be jailed, fined, lose your job, amongst other things for advocating hate speech. Denial of holocaust is a law.

I consider such laws ridiculous and an insult. I don't think they are compatible with "western ideals".


Recently ANOTHER 'comic' was posted in a satirical magazine that mocks religion in france. It was allowed on grounds of 'freedom of speech', but protests were clamped down even though they were peaceful and people arrested for speaking out. So much for freedom of speech.

Prior evidence suggests that such protests are hardly peaceful. But let's assume, arguendo, that the protests were, indeed, peaceful. If so, then "clamping down" on them is an insult to "western ideals" and the concept of freedom of speech.



Or how about Muslim women being banned from wearing hijab. Or how about niqabis who are banned from wearing niqab outside. They get fined and jailed. "Freedom of expression"

I consider most such laws to be ridiculous, insulting and flat out incompatible with "western ideals." With few exceptions (e.g. pictures for driver's licenses, passports and such, in the absence of other biometric identifiers) I don't see any reason for the government prohibiting the wearing of such items.


In the US there's things that are labeled 'hate speech' that are not hate speech for example criticizing Israel. Yet slandering Islam is 'freedom of speech'. Slander is not criticism.

I disagree with the notion of hate speech, and would abolish it, if it were up to me. But in the United States hate speech isn't prohibited.


Freedom of speech SHOULD be restricted as hate speech is not freedom of speech, that's abuse of freedom of speech.

Repeat after me: the government should not be in the censorship business and shouldn't interfere with the people's right to free speech.


There's a reason there are laws relating to 'libel', slander of people, etc...

Libel and slander laws don't curtail one's freedom of speech.


but oh I know it will be argued its for 'living ppl only' well muslims are living even if our prophet (peace be upon him) passed away.

Actually, it's not true that it's for "living ppl only", so what you know doesn't really have much bearing on reality.


There should internationally be a law against slander of religions, period. It is one thing to debate and criticize but to slander and demonize is a whole other issue.

No, there shouldn't be. Such "laws" are an insult to free people everywhere and a bad idea. A chain is forged with one link. Whether that link is a law against "slander of religions" or against "criticizing Israel" that link is a chain, and one that binds us all.

My freedom to speak isn't limited by your feelings. If what I say hurts your feelings, well... that's too fucking bad. You're free to not listen or ignore my hurtful words.


It's such hypocricy. It is quite clear it is an all out attack on Islam and Muslims. Pretty sad. People see it for what it is. It won't last forever.

But attempting to gag people under penalty of law isn't sad? ::)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:05:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE6sBC2WY5w


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 10, 2012, 02:13:59 PM
From my understanding "Freedom of Speech" was a right granted to journalists, ...so they could have the freedom to publish the truth without fear of persecution. Like most things though, it has been twisted, and journalistic freedom of speech, now seems to mean the freedom to dispense lies with impunity.

Why is it that it is against the law to yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre?

Why is freedom of speech not applicable there?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2012, 02:18:55 PM
Joel olsteen to make your case against pork? ::)  That guy is freaking insane.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlZX062wR_Y


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:27:57 PM
It doesn't matter who it was. It's not 'our case' we already have our case. Anybody with an ounce of brain power can realize pigs are garbage eaters who do these filthy things. In the other thread where you were around, I told you my grand parents had a pig farm, and obviously we used to eat pork ourselves.

I would never touch that crap ever again. I ate it because we were raised with that and it was 'normal' and I knew nothing about the animal, besides what I saw, and yes it was filthy. My father even helped my grandfather with pig slaughter preparing the meat, etc...

Ah.. it brings back memories, its interesting look back at life.

Most people realize pork is unhealthy and disgusting. Yet they keep eating it. And as far as religion, I was shocked as was my mother when we started reading the bible. Even people at church didn't know what's in the bible lol.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 02:28:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaBmbbLHj7g


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2012, 03:57:48 PM
It doesn't matter who it was. It's not 'our case' we already have our case. Anybody with an ounce of brain power can realize pigs are garbage eaters who do these filthy things. In the other thread where you were around, I told you my grand parents had a pig farm, and obviously we used to eat pork ourselves.

I would never touch that crap ever again. I ate it because we were raised with that and it was 'normal' and I knew nothing about the animal, besides what I saw, and yes it was filthy. My father even helped my grandfather with pig slaughter preparing the meat, etc...

Ah.. it brings back memories, its interesting look back at life.

Most people realize pork is unhealthy and disgusting. Yet they keep eating it. And as far as religion, I was shocked as was my mother when we started reading the bible. Even people at church didn't know what's in the bible lol.
when did you convert to islam?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 04:03:54 PM
officially dec 2003. But started reading about it since april 2001, started reading alot more after sept 2001


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 10, 2012, 08:09:29 PM
From my understanding "Freedom of Speech" was a right granted to journalists, ...so they could have the freedom to publish the truth without fear of persecution. Like most things though, it has been twisted, and journalistic freedom of speech, now seems to mean the freedom to dispense lies with impunity.

Your understanding, at least as far as United States jurisprudence goes, is quite flawed. The language of the First Amendment is clear: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


Why is it that it is against the law to yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre?

You ought to read the background and the decision of the Supreme Court in a case called Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1968/1968_492). It's likely to answer all the questions you have, and quite a few that you don't.


Why is freedom of speech not applicable there?

Because falsely yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater actually and directly endangers others. You do not have a 'right' to endanger others anymore than you have a 'right' to kick them in the groin. But as I noted above, check out Brandenburg v. Ohio. If you're feeling adventurous, check out Schenck v. U.S. (which is where the "can't yell 'fire' in a theater" line comes from).


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: avxo on October 10, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Mmm... bacon.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: a_ahmed on October 10, 2012, 08:53:05 PM
No thanks

(http://hellinahandbasket.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/pig-wallowing-in-a-filthy-pool.jpg)

(http://cutelypoisoned.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dirty-pigs1.jpg)


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 10, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
officially dec 2003. But started reading about it since april 2001, started reading alot more after sept 2001
mmmm, that is odd...  

Ok, anyway, this is the biggest dumbshit argument I've ever heard.  Retard blink 200 times a minute Joel Olsteen says that the digestive system of a pig can't process all the toxins out of food because it only takes 4 hours. ::)  The digestive system isn't the only organ that processes toxins out of the body so going by how long it takes a pig to move food to crap is meaningless.

And this is funny, the jackass says you can't eat anything that scavenges.  No shrimp... no crabs.... ::)  No oysters ::)  but he says fish are ok... but the stupid fucking assclown doesn't know that some fish are bottom feeders and do the same thing.  what an ass. And some of those bottom feeders make for the best eating like: catfish, halibut, flounder, bass and cod.  There is nothing inherently toxic about eating shimp, clams or all these others seafoods...  This is religious nuttbaggery that deserves nothing but a punch in the face of the ignoramous spewing it.  But hey, he said fish are ok so the assclowns in the audience will go out and buy fish to eat... Chances are many will end up buying bottom feeders like flounder and halibut and feel really happy about themselves even though they are now eating an animal that pretty much eats the crap left over on the bottom of the waters the same as he warned against eating other things for lol...

A_ahmed is now probably saying, "oh shit... wait mom, scratch the tilapia from the shopping list"


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 01:54:31 PM
avxo attempts to beat knowledge what he believes into those who refuse to learn believe.

A person that self glorifies themselves and has no manners in speaking is lacking knowledge in my opinion. Ridiculing, cynicism, sarcasm, slander, etc... is not the trait of a wise or knowledgeable individual. It's one thing if others were ridiculing him to begin with and he responds equally. However he is the one that opens the can. In the many years I've been debating and talking with atheists, they all have this trait of self glorifying superiority over others, ironically always citing how 'religions' or those who are 'religious' are try to shuv down their throats their beliefs.

I really don't care what axvo has to say quite frankly, it's a waste of my time.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9LD5TfO2ro


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 02:01:37 PM
Then you are sorely missing out.

Sounds like you suffer from that which you claim to detest.

Often that is the case.

I don't think so. I am not missing out.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
Sounds very narcissistic.


Pick up a dictionary to see the definition of narcissist. Axvo fits that. Rejecting his rambling non-sense and self glorifying doesn't make one a narcissist.

It's like saying being anti-gay, must make you gay. lol


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 11, 2012, 02:09:49 PM
Your understanding, at least as far as United States jurisprudence goes, is quite flawed. The language of the First Amendment is clear: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

You ought to read the background and the decision of the Supreme Court in a case called Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1968/1968_492). It's likely to answer all the questions you have, and quite a few that you don't.

Because falsely yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater actually and directly endangers others. You do not have a 'right' to endanger others anymore than you have a 'right' to kick them in the groin. But as I noted above, check out Brandenburg v. Ohio. If you're feeling adventurous, check out Schenck v. U.S. (which is where the "can't yell 'fire' in a theater" line comes from).


LOL, Thanks for that clarification, ...I was actually being facetious.
I know why you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre. To say that passing laws against that, is different from passing laws against willfull purposeful provocation is a load of rubbish imo.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 02:39:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV5nP8Uvho0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_AHamOchQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 11, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
LOL, Thanks for that clarification, ...I was actually being facetious.
I know why you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre. To say that passing laws against that, is different from passing laws against willfull purposeful provocation is a load of rubbish imo.

Provocative words aren't the problem and there's nothing inherently bad or evil about provocative words. In fact, sometimes, they are the means to say things that are really important.

The words of the Founding Fathers of the United States were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a people to overthrow a King and seek a new way of life.

The words of Havel Václav were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a nation and put it on a path the freedom.

The words of anti-communists in Russia and Cuba were willfully and purposefully provocative.

Even the words of Jesus were, according to the Bible, willfully and purposefully provocative.

Your suggestion that we need to legislate away free speech by neutering what we can say is ridiculous. I'd say you should be mocked and ridiculed and I'm being willfully and purposefully provocative. And if you take offense to that, go fuck yourself.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 11, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
Pick up a dictionary to see the definition of narcissist. Axvo fits that. Rejecting his rambling non-sense and self glorifying doesn't make one a narcissist.

I'm definitely not in love with myself. How could I be? I still don't have shredded glutes!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 02:54:25 PM

blabla

You are just proving the hypocrisy in your belief and in your response and only radiating the same momentum behind american governance and in general western hypocricy. I already cited examples of so called 'free speech' in france, uk, etc... it's all the same never ending double standards and hypocricy

Free speech has become a whore that gets passed around in a brothel. It's sad and disgusting at the same time.

You call what you want free speech and you want to restrict it when you see fit.

Exclusively in this discussion, it is free speech to mock, slander, spread hate, lie against and attack Muslims, however it is not free speech when in whatever situation you CHOSE it not to be 'free speech'

It's just how everyone gets labeled 'radical', 'extremist', 'terrorist' whenever the US, UK, france and other 'western' interests see fit.

However it is free speech to burn qur'an, not terrorist when bombing countries and killing a million+ people in ten years. While burning american flags is 'radical' and 'extremist', despicable, etc...


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 11, 2012, 03:10:20 PM
Provocative words aren't the problem and there's nothing inherently bad or evil about provocative words. In fact, sometimes, they are the means to say things that are really important.

The words of the Founding Fathers of the United States were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a people to overthrow a King and seek a new way of life.

The words of Havel Václav were willfully and purposefully provocative. They roused a nation and put it on a path the freedom.

The words of anti-communists in Russia and Cuba were willfully and purposefully provocative.

Even the words of Jesus were, according to the Bible, willfully and purposefully provocative.

Your suggestion that we need to legislate away free speech by neutering what we can say is ridiculous. I'd say you should be mocked and ridiculed and I'm being willfully and purposefully provocative. And if you take offense to that, go fuck yourself.

I don't suggest the need to legislate away free speech at all, I'm simply saying people it's hypocrisy to argue for free speech on the one hand, and legislate it away on the other. As well too, people shouldn't be surprised or perplexed when they get what they ask for.

You do realize that the 'FREE SPEECH' argument is being used right now to attack America, ...and provide diplomatic cover to further attack America, ...but I don't think it's going to end the way the provocateurs intended. At least I hope not, ...for all our sakes.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 11, 2012, 04:23:11 PM
You call what you want free speech and you want to restrict it when you see fit.

I don't want to restrict any speech.


Exclusively in this discussion, it is free speech to mock, slander, spread hate, lie against and attack Muslims, however it is not free speech when in whatever situation you CHOSE it not to be 'free speech'

Speech is speech.


However it is free speech to burn qur'an, not terrorist when bombing countries and killing a million+ people in ten years. While burning american flags is 'radical' and 'extremist', despicable, etc...

Burning a qur'an that you own is free speech. Burning a flag that you own, American or otherwise, is free speech. Killing others is not free speech.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 11, 2012, 04:49:29 PM
Well one would think such a 'moral society'  ::) with such 'high standards' wouldn't endorse slander, mockery and lying as 'free speech'.

Americans are busy doing alot of killing. Apparently you have cold feelings towards 1 million+ ppl being slaughtered by America in ten years. Just a number. Alot of Americans on this forum certainly do. Furthermore quite a few use their 'freedom of speech' to advocte for murder and praise the murder of millions of muslims.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 11, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Well one would think such a 'moral society'  ::) with such 'high standards' wouldn't endorse slander, mockery and lying as 'free speech'.

First of all, I never said anything about a "moral society."

Now, supporting free speech doesn't mean that I endorse what's being said. Look at the nonsense you spout; I don't support or endorse it. But I would advocate for your right to spout it.

As for slanderous statements, why not take the slanderers to Court? After all, slander is, actually, illegal. I'll tell you why.


Americans are busy doing alot of killing. Apparently you have cold feelings towards 1 million+ ppl being slaughtered by America in ten years. Just a number.

What does that have to do with free speech?


Alot of Americans on this forum certainly do. Furthermore quite a few use their 'freedom of speech' to advocte for murder and praise the murder of millions of muslims.

It's only words after all... unlike planes flown into buildings.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 11, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Well one would think such a 'moral society'  ::) with such 'high standards' wouldn't endorse slander, mockery and lying as 'free speech'.

Americans are busy doing alot of killing. Apparently you have cold feelings towards 1 million+ ppl being slaughtered by America in ten years. Just a number. Alot of Americans on this forum certainly do. Furthermore quite a few use their 'freedom of speech' to advocte for murder and praise the murder of millions of muslims.
Americans are killing those(Muslims) that have made it perfectly clear they would do the same to Westerners if they had the fire-power.  That's what's crazy about Muslims, they run around in a permanent state of outrage threatening others, yet they don't have the muscle to back it up.  Muslims are like a crazy person picking a fight with a man with a gun.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 11, 2012, 07:59:30 PM
avxo attempts to beat knowledge into those who refuse to learn.

Which I guess says something about me...


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Skeletor on October 11, 2012, 08:39:40 PM
I really don't care what axvo has to say quite frankly, it's a waste of my time.

Glutton for punishment.. You keep saying you won't bother anymore but keep coming back for more..


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 11, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
Glutton for punishment
Glutton for punishment, that could be a synonym for the word Muslim


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 11, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Hey, Ahmed.

When did the member of the Taliban, who shot a fourteen year old girl in the head and have vowed to murder her should she recover, become Muslims?

Also, do you think that they would have ended up being even more violent if it weren't for the calming philosophical tenants garnered from the religion of peace.

Thanks, bro.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 12, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkDFGxhsTBE


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 12, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIBadm7KwQs


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 12, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zaSF7XsCOU


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 13, 2012, 09:49:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho3BpnpAagQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6r7H988Tc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYd4mOwI5w4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLdpOd9KioM
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has more guts and brains than you will ever have in your lifetime.

BTW, this is GB. We post what we want, where we want.

You don't like it, you can fuck off.



Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 13, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 13, 2012, 09:53:29 AM
Ahmed, do you think that Muslims should be allowed to own slaves?


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 13, 2012, 12:10:27 PM
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has more guts and brains than you will ever have in your lifetime.

BTW, this is GB. We post what we want, where we want.

You don't like it, you can fuck off.



LOL she's brave for being a liar and a fraud?

A Dutch journalist exposes her how she lied and forged stories to make money. She made up false stories to win the hearts of brainwashed ignorant people like yourself and make money. Ignorants supporting ignorants. She has ulterior motives and wants $$$. That's what she got. Ultimately she was exposed as a fraud and a liar.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 13, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
LOL she's brave for being a liar and a fraud?

A Dutch journalist exposes her how she lied and forged stories to make money. She made up false stories to win the hearts of brainwashed ignorant people like yourself and make money. Ignorants supporting ignorants. She has ulterior motives and wants $$$. That's what she got. Ultimately she was exposed as a fraud and a liar.
Says the "man" who just knows that an invisible sky god gave the secrets of the universe to a guy in a cave fourteen centuries ago and so questions nothing.

Keep trying, man. Keep believing whatever they tell you.

Question nothing and be a slave until the end.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 13, 2012, 09:41:50 PM
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Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 13, 2012, 11:06:34 PM
LOL she's brave for being a liar and a fraud?

A Dutch journalist exposes her how she lied and forged stories to make money. She made up false stories to win the hearts of brainwashed ignorant people like yourself and make money. Ignorants supporting ignorants. She has ulterior motives and wants $$$. That's what she got. Ultimately she was exposed as a fraud and a liar.

Ahmed, there are those who tell lies & commit fraud to enrich themselves by exploiting the ignorance of brainwashed masses, ...many of whom post on these boards, ...but I would draw the line at lumping garebear in with the ignorant brainwashed.

I think he speaks from his truth. While you may consider his "truth" to be somewhat skewed, ...understand, he arrived at it through "active duty" stationed in Afghanistan. When one considers the perverse way Islam is interpreted by the Taliban, ...and the fact that he witnessed these perversions with his own eyes, ...he hardly qualifies as ignorant & brainwashed, ...but rather as a man speaking the truth, ...HIS truth, based on his own eye witness, first hand account of perversity in action.   


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 07:40:31 AM
I wouldn't call his 'experiences' as 'truth'. He is an occupier and invader. He travelled there to make money killing.

I bet he can't tell the difference between a shiia afghan, sunni afghan or tribal warlords or taliban. Everything to him is a 'towel head'.

The northern alliance are the ones that were into the drug trade (opium), into beating women, raping women, yes the 'northern alliance' that the US supported and funder they are the ones that engage in 'gay concubine boyfriends' raping boys, 'bacha baci' and all the other disgusting non-sense.

Everyone is a 'taliban' to him for fighting. He can't discern between culture or islam either. To him its all the same crap. Like any other US or western soldier that goes there thinking they are 'saving the world'

It's no different than his 'account' of my family leaving africa and experiencing some douchebag wanting a bribe and a hijabi standing near by. We thought this was islam or muslims. My father hated them yet didn't know shit.

We really didn't know much about islam despite years of living amongst Muslims as Christians. They did not force upon us anything yet we came there with preconceived notions.

Bribery for instance is forbidden in Islam.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 07:42:30 AM
Says the "man" who just knows that an invisible sky god gave the secrets of the universe to a guy in a cave fourteen centuries ago and so questions nothing.

Keep trying, man. Keep believing whatever they tell you.

Question nothing and be a slave until the end.

I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Archer77 on October 14, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires

You're a slave to ignorance and your own fears of mortality. 


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2012, 08:57:18 AM
I wouldn't call his 'experiences' as 'truth'.

I wouldn't call his experiences truth either, ...that's why I referred to them as "HIS truth". Unlike many of the loud mouthed hate-mongers present who think it's cool, or patriotic to hate on Muslims, I think he is sincere when voicing his disgust. That's all I'm saying.

Some forms of ignorance imo are only worthy of contempt, ...while other forms of ignorance require empathy, patience, understanding, and education.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 09:23:34 AM
You're a slave to ignorance and your own fears of mortality. 

I beg to differ if I was a slave of ignorance I would be like the many gnomes on here that don't think and think they think.

I don't fear mortality either, quite the opposite, I realize this life is temporary and only a temporary abode until we return to God Almighty.


Title: Science and Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByJFCE7A_c0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_7OjZkyI8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb447HFMy38


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3hwz0JYy0


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Psychopath on October 14, 2012, 09:34:12 AM
In my experience, devout Muslims did not waste their time on foul message boards that is recognized by its many non-religious members as being a truly vile and uncivilized social media outlet.

I really can't see a devout follower of the Abrahamic faiths finding the need to invest all this time here, while they can indulge in charity work, worship, study of various subjects (one primarily being that of their faith), attending to the needs of their immediate and extended family, if not neighbours and friends as well, etc...


I suggest you take a stride down to your local mosque and conversate with your Imam to see if you've been a good boy in these fitna filled times.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hngqfIsBsSw


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
I joined this forum because I love BBing, however due to witnessing the hate mongering and islamophobia, severe level of ignorance, I was obliged to speak out.

I am not perfect, no human is, only God almighty is perfect. We humans ought to strive to be better.

It is our duty to speak out against lies, injustice and for the truth. It is definetely our obligation to speak about what our religion is about and expose the lies being constantly brought out for personal profit of a few.

If you haven't realized by now, all the slander, hate, lying is not deterring me from believing in God almighty and Islam nor making weaker of faith, if anything it reaffirms my faith and even if 99 people are against me, at least 1 will be out there that is willing to actually listen and not be a stereotypical islamophobe


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Archer77 on October 14, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
I beg to differ if I was a slave of ignorance I would be like the many gnomes on here that don't think and think they think.

I don't fear mortality either, quite the opposite, I realize this life is temporary and only a temporary abode until we return to God Almighty.

That is precisely my point.  You need that small sliver of false hope that there is an afterlife to keep you going. You don't desire god, you're just playing the lottery, hoping that in the end you get a reward, continued life.  Without the false sense of security such beliefs bring, you'd be a mess hiding under the bed, afraid of going out into the world.  Pure desperation is what it is.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Archer77 on October 14, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
Ahmed, do you think that Muslims should be allowed to own slaves?


You're aren't going to get an answer.  Nor is he going to answer the charge about Muhammad's kiddie fiddling either.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2012, 11:27:09 AM

The northern alliance are the ones that were into the drug trade (opium), into beating women, raping women, yes the 'northern alliance' that the US supported and funder they are the ones that engage in 'gay concubine boyfriends' raping boys, 'bacha baci' and all the other disgusting non-sense.

The Northern Alliance which were enemies of the Taliban, can quite easily be described as 21st century slave traders. They were funded to the tune of $10,000 US tax payer dollars per head, for every PERSON they captured, and turned over to US troops for internment in Guantanamo. They didn't care whether these were Taliban fighters or not, ...and for the most part, ...neither did those who accepted the captives and paid the $10 K, (which added further to the bill American children & grandchildren are indebted to for generations to come.) More often than not, these captives were simply poor unarmed goat herders who were simply sold into slavery for the $10K bounty the Northern Alliance could collect.

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Everyone is a 'taliban' to him for fighting. He can't discern between culture or islam either. To him its all the same crap. Like any other US or western soldier that goes there thinking they are 'saving the world'

It's no different than his 'account' of my family leaving africa and experiencing some douchebag wanting a bribe and a hijabi standing near by. We thought this was islam or muslims. My father hated them yet didn't know shit.

We really didn't know much about islam despite years of living amongst Muslims as Christians. They did not force upon us anything yet we came there with preconceived notions.

Bribery for instance is forbidden in Islam.

That is something I too have noticed among the many Muslims I encounter. There is no proselityzing, they just live there lives according to their faith, and if asked, they will explain, but there is no chasing you down the street, hounding you, if you'd prefer not to talk to them, or threats to your livelihood if you decline an invitation to attend their church ...which I for one find extremely refreshing.

Back in 2007 while in Home Depot, I ran into a guy who I used to work with in the film industry. He asked me what I was doing on Sunday ...if I had any plans? Before I could even answer, he said "I want you to come to my Church." I tried to politely decline the invitation, but he countered with... "If you don't come to my church on Sunday, I'll make sure you never work in the film industry again." I just laughed to myself thinking 'Go for it asshole, ...I've already left the industry'. With that, I simply turned to his new girlfriend who was standing there (with a horror struck look on her face), smiled at her to relieve some of the tension she was feeling, and told her it was a pleasure meeting her, ...and walked away.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2012, 11:34:12 AM
I beg to differ if I was a slave of ignorance I would be like the many gnomes on here that don't think and think they think.

I don't fear mortality either, quite the opposite, I realize this life is temporary and only a temporary abode until we return to God Almighty.

Gnomes?  Don't you mean drones?
...or are you saying that all bodybuilders suffer from "Napoleon Complex" ?  ???  :P

sorry couldn't resist, ...carry on


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Asking idiotic questions does not deserve a response. I've already responded to plenty of idiotic questions only to not really help you as you persist in the same idiotic questions not because you are sincere but because you just want to repeat stupidity. It only makes you look like a stupid tool and a fool.

If you want to believe all the bs you've been spoon fed against Islam, be my guest. You only look like an ignorant idiot. "Islam iz of ze devil", "Dem mozzlemz evil", "Dem mozzlems killz them ppls", "Dem mozzlemz moon worshiping pagans".

These kind of constant idioitic questions (that are really your angry utterances and statements) have been answered over and over again. Your new idiotic question is "can we haz them slavez". I'm sure you'll come up with other idiotic things to say (not ask) so keep fooling yourself. Islam came ultimately to liberate slaves, as slavery was a common thing in the world. Those that were slaves were to be treated with kindness and Muslims were instructed to free slaves, Muhammad (pbuh) and his family alone freed around 35,000 slaves. There's really no need to answer you as you are just looking to fulfil your own hatred and continue the ignorance.

In the end the reality on the ground is, a quarter of the 4 million american muslims  are converts. The highest rate of conversion world wide are white university educated women.

Clearly what you keep foolishly repeating is not affecting people that are learned, but merely keeps you and those others like yourself ignorant amongst yourselves only filled with hatred, lies, slanders, misinformation, all out foolishness.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 14, 2012, 07:57:39 PM
lol an old friend of mine from college, a south african muslim was threatened by this Jewish professor that had ties to Fox, basically my friend was making anti-war/anti-us political animations, so this teacher said all he has to do is make one phone call and you'll never work in the industry, no one will hire you lol.  ::) Needless to say my friend kept doing it and is making money from freelancing and working for himself anyways.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 14, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
lol an old friend of mine from college, a south african muslim was threatened by this Jewish professor that had ties to Fox, basically my friend was making anti-war/anti-us political animations, so this teacher said all he has to do is make one phone call and you'll never work in the industry, no one will hire you lol.  ::) Needless to say my friend kept doing it and is making money from freelancing and working for himself anyways.

Yup, ...that's pretty much how it always is. I've been hearing that threat since the mid 80's.

The first time I heard the threat, it came from a sleazy agent who told me I'd never work in films again if I didn't have sex with him.  ::)

Not only did I NOT have sex with, ...I along with a few friends, opened up our own talent agency, stole ALL his clients from his roster (in order to protect them from falling victim to his greed & sexual predations), and put him out of business. He ended up being the one who didn't work in the industry again.

Having to manuever around his sleazy sexual predations ended up being a blessing in disguise, because it resulted in my seeking out other paths... the road less travelled so-to-speak, and it propelled me through wide open doors which I otherwise would not have even seen, and empowered me to engage within the industry on an entirely new level.

Who knows what kind of performer purgatory I could have been stuck in, had he not been such a knob? In reality, ...he did me a favour.  :D


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: avxo on October 15, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
I wouldn't call his experiences truth either, ...that's why I referred to them as "HIS truth".

Sorry to break the news to you, but truth isn't relative. Either Ahmed is right, or he's wrong; his beliefs are either true or false.



Back in 2007 while in Home Depot, I ran into a guy who I used to work with in the film industry. He asked me what I was doing on Sunday ...if I had any plans? Before I could even answer, he said "I want you to come to my Church." I tried to politely decline the invitation, but he countered with... "If you don't come to my church on Sunday, I'll make sure you never work in the film industry again."

Egads, everybody threatens you with not working in the film industry again... First an agent whose yahoo you wouldn't google, then a guy whose church you wouldn't go to. Who's next? A chef whose food you won't taste?  ::)


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: garebear on October 15, 2012, 02:37:53 AM
It's in the Koran.

It MUST be true.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Radical Plato on October 15, 2012, 03:16:16 AM
First of all, ounce for ounce, pork tenderloin has less fat than a chicken breast. Now I’ll wait a moment for you to get back into your chair or standing position off the floor and revive the person in the room with you that you were reading this article to. Yep, pork tenderloin has less fat than the holy diet talisman, the ordinary chicken breast.

Continuing on … pork is actually quite naturally low in salt and a rich source of premium quality protein. It is also a good source of several life sustaining vitamins and necessary minerals that are needed for good health including iron, zinc, as well as some of the B group vitamins, selenium and phosphorus.

Pork is a great source of protein in your diet. A 100g portion of pork provides you with about half of the protein you need for the entire day.

While there are several different cuts of pork with varying fat content, the leanest of these contain just 6% fat, which is incredibly low. 

When properly trimmed, pork contains far more unsaturated fat than saturated fat.

Pork actually contains heart protective “n3 fatty acids” that help the body prevent coronary disease

Pork also naturally contains “Conjugated Linoleic Acid” (CLA) which scientific tests show health benefits in the areas of cancer and heart health.

Pork is a good source of the easily absorbed form of dietary iron.

Pork is a rich source of B12. A 100g portion of pork provides you with 70% of your daily requirement of the vitamin!

A 100g portion of pork provides you with more than 30% of your daily requirement of zinc.

The iron, zinc and vitamin D naturally plentiful in pork are actually far more efficiently absorbed than from other food sources.

Pork is a powerful, natural help in the bodies fight to avoid “Type 2 Diabetes” and help to maintain optimal blood sugar levels. Recent research has shown that pork improves the body’s thiamine status, while lowering heart disease risk factors and actually helping to control glucose levels in type 2 diabetics.

Muslims are fucking retarded!


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: avxo on October 15, 2012, 05:03:33 AM
First of all, ounce for ounce, pork tenderloin has less fat than a chicken breast. Now I’ll wait a moment for you to get back into your chair or standing position off the floor and revive the person in the room with you that you were reading this article to. Yep, pork tenderloin has less fat than the holy diet talisman, the ordinary chicken breast.

Continuing on … pork is actually quite naturally low in salt and a rich source of premium quality protein. It is also a good source of several life sustaining vitamins and necessary minerals that are needed for good health including iron, zinc, as well as some of the B group vitamins, selenium and phosphorus.

Pork is a great source of protein in your diet. A 100g portion of pork provides you with about half of the protein you need for the entire day.

While there are several different cuts of pork with varying fat content, the leanest of these contain just 6% fat, which is incredibly low. 

When properly trimmed, pork contains far more unsaturated fat than saturated fat.

Pork actually contains heart protective “n3 fatty acids” that help the body prevent coronary disease

Pork also naturally contains “Conjugated Linoleic Acid” (CLA) which scientific tests show health benefits in the areas of cancer and heart health.

Pork is a good source of the easily absorbed form of dietary iron.

Pork is a rich source of B12. A 100g portion of pork provides you with 70% of your daily requirement of the vitamin!

A 100g portion of pork provides you with more than 30% of your daily requirement of zinc.

The iron, zinc and vitamin D naturally plentiful in pork are actually far more efficiently absorbed than from other food sources.

Pork is a powerful, natural help in the bodies fight to avoid “Type 2 Diabetes” and help to maintain optimal blood sugar levels. Recent research has shown that pork improves the body’s thiamine status, while lowering heart disease risk factors and actually helping to control glucose levels in type 2 diabetics.

Muslims are fucking retarded!

Queue Ahmed:

"But it's duhrrrrr-teee and some book written by an uneducated man having visions in a cave said 'don't eat pork!'"


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 15, 2012, 05:24:58 AM
I'm gonna follow in Ahmed's footsteps and debate by posting youtube video links. And not just any youtube video links, mind you. But video links from the Spirit of Truth! So take that Ahmed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhy0_jkOXCo


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Archer77 on October 15, 2012, 05:31:38 AM
Asking idiotic questions does not deserve a response. I've already responded to plenty of idiotic questions only to not really help you as you persist in the same idiotic questions not because you are sincere but because you just want to repeat stupidity. It only makes you look like a stupid tool and a fool.

If you want to believe all the bs you've been spoon fed against Islam, be my guest. You only look like an ignorant idiot. "Islam iz of ze devil", "Dem mozzlemz evil", "Dem mozzlems killz them ppls", "Dem mozzlemz moon worshiping pagans".

These kind of constant idioitic questions (that are really your angry utterances and statements) have been answered over and over again. Your new idiotic question is "can we haz them slavez". I'm sure you'll come up with other idiotic things to say (not ask) so keep fooling yourself. Islam came ultimately to liberate slaves, as slavery was a common thing in the world. Those that were slaves were to be treated with kindness and Muslims were instructed to free slaves, Muhammad (pbuh) and his family alone freed around 35,000 slaves. There's really no need to answer you as you are just looking to fulfil your own hatred and continue the ignorance.

In the end the reality on the ground is, a quarter of the 4 million american muslims  are converts. The highest rate of conversion world wide are white university educated women.

Clearly what you keep foolishly repeating is not affecting people that are learned, but merely keeps you and those others like yourself ignorant amongst yourselves only filled with hatred, lies, slanders, misinformation, all out foolishness.

A pathetic attempt at deflection.   Sorry buddy, your prophet was a child molester.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: garebear on October 15, 2012, 05:54:56 AM
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Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 15, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires
You're a slave of tradition.

All questions have been answered for you so you've lost your curiousity.

You're essentially a farm animal at this point.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 15, 2012, 09:24:57 PM
"MMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" - A-Ahmed


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 15, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkxx0wkFVHQ


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 15, 2012, 09:35:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkxx0wkFVHQ


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 15, 2012, 10:03:07 PM
Here a quack, there a quack, everywhere a quack quack.

Old Ahmed lives on a farm.

E I E I O.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 02:59:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9bAsEbiG6I

I wonder how many millions of dollars he gets for being a liar and a fraud. Just like Ali Hirsi. Even after being exposed a fraud and a liar, and her 'story of forced marriage' and all the other bs she came up with were lies. She gets money and lots of money.

These people sell God for a petty profit in this world. It's easy for anyone today to make money lying against Muslims and Islam. Those who have non white appearance are that much more profitable. Those that say they were Muslims (despite showing how little they know) get even more money and recognition. If only they knew that that money will not come with them when they meet God, nor will they take it with them when they enter the grave.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E5dGxJXwWs


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 03:44:19 PM
Actually this guy is a better comparison to this guy than Ali Hirsi. Walid Shoebat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RolTxWmoZcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SXFA-vM6Aw

All frauds, that only enjoy profit profit profit. Following profits rather than God's prophets :)


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 03:45:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjSEe2AFJI


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
This is HILARIOUS lol... Walid Shoebat attacks Mosab Hassan Yousef..

I guess he was taking too much profits from Walid hahaha. Islam is a great business for non-muslims, exploiting the ignorant for giant financial gains and profits in this world. Aah.. how if only they knew how temporary that gain will be when they meet God Almighty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3gTvmYdng


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 16, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
This is HILARIOUS lol... Walid Shoebat attacks Mosab Hassan Yousef..

I guess he was taking too much profits from Walid hahaha. Islam is a great business for non-muslims, exploiting the ignorant for giant financial gains and profits in this world. Aah.. how if only they knew how temporary that gain will be when they meet God Almighty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3gTvmYdng
HA HA You Muslims are complete sociopaths, when one of your own tells the truth about Islam and turns his back on the depravity of it all, you all want to kill him and then make up all types of justifications for it.  eg: he turned his back on Islam for profit, not because he was intelligent enough to see through the BS of it all, this is the problem, the average Muslim suffers from such a low IQ and reasoning ability, they truly can't understand anyone with an average to above average intelligence who eloquently highlights what a sick twisted dumb bunch of mother fuckers muslims are!


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 16, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peppSQC0XTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOOQtMgLB3M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40l_2892vvg


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 16, 2012, 07:59:56 PM
lol trust me he will not share any of his profits with you, probably already bought a villa in California. Some people are so easy to sell themselves. There indeed exists people that would even sell their own mothers for a few cheap worldly gains. Pretty pathetic indeed. It's funny that he would not quote the verses of the qur'an correctly but merely appease those like yourself to make profits.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 16, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
lol trust me he will not share any of his profits with you, probably already bought a villa in California. Some people are so easy to sell themselves. There indeed exists people that would even sell their own mothers for a few cheap worldly gains. Pretty pathetic indeed. It's funny that he would not quote the verses of the qur'an correctly but merely appease those like yourself to make profits.
He quotes the quran regularly, it amazes me the lengths Muslims have to go to stay in denial, and you aren't even aware of it.  Truly is mind boggling from an outsiders perspective, it's like an adult watching a 5 year old trying to comprehend algebra, and the child pretending to understand it, all the while the adult knows the child doesn't know, but because of the precociousness and immaturity of the child, the adult is powerless to help make the child realize that in fact, They Don't Know!


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 17, 2012, 12:24:04 PM
lol what denial. He is making lots of money and that's the reason he's doing this. He obviously could care less about God or Palestine or his family. He is a weak individual who could not endure the suffering in Palestine and chose instead the life of luxury and comfort in the west. Easy to make money through Islam bashing. Takes only a few iq points to go to some islamophobe websites and start quoting the same non-sense. It works on ignorants like yourself. However anyone who opens the qur'an will realize it is nothing like what he is saying.

Like in that verse he quoted about kill them wherever you find them idolators LOL... an ignorant like yourself would read that and go THEY ARE EEVIIL THESE MOZZLEMS.. yet you have not read what verses come before or the one right after! :) It's amusing! Shows what a tool you are and how ignorant you are. It was about a treaty to perform hajj with the idolators, but they broke the treaty. Right after it, it says but do not transgress, escort people to places of safety if they do not fight/etc... protect people/etc...

He is making money for feeding on ignorance and hate. You are not benefitting anyone or making money. Only making yourself look like a fool.

He takes pleasure in listening to applause saying "Israel... MY COUNTRY" LOL. He's an easy person to get to say anything or do anything for money. A weak individual. He will make a fine american politician just like obama and romney. They will bend over for $$$

Frauds are not 'telling the truth exposing the truth' lol. It's laughable. You're getting excited over an opportunist for profit.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Migs on October 17, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
It doesn't matter who it was. It's not 'our case' we already have our case. Anybody with an ounce of brain power can realize pigs are garbage eaters who do these filthy things. In the other thread where you were around, I told you my grand parents had a pig farm, and obviously we used to eat pork ourselves.

ever been around chickens?  They are nasty ass animals


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: a_ahmed on October 17, 2012, 05:12:43 PM
lol at islamophobes coming to a thread about pork. Yes ignorance is a threat to mankind. Knowledge of Islam is a threat to the western elites and idiots with political agendas or who fear their power/wealth to be affected by Islam because of their own desires/injustices :) Look look islam in it's fundementals:


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The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "A servant of God will remain standing on the Day of Judgment until he is questioned about his (time on earth) and how he used it; about his knowledge and how he utilized it; about his wealth and from where he acquired it and in what (activities) he spent it; and about his body and how he used it." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 148


The Prophet also said: "Knowledge from which no benefit is derived is like a treasure out of which nothing is spent in the cause of God." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 108


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "God, His angels and all those in Heavens and on Earth, even ants in their hills and fish in the water, call down blessings on those who instruct others in beneficial knowledge." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 422


The Prophet also said: "Acquire knowledge and impart it to the people." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 107


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "If anyone travels on a road in search of knowledge, God will cause him to travel on one of the roads of Paradise. The angels will lower their wings in their great pleasure with one who seeks knowledge. The inhabitants of the heavens and the Earth and (even) the fish in the deep waters will ask forgiveness for the learned man. The superiority of the learned over the devout is like that of the moon, on the night when it is full, over the rest of the stars. The learned are the heirs of the Prophets, and the Prophets leave (no monetary inheritance), they leave only knowledge, and he who takes it takes an abundant portion. - Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 1631


I have been around chickens, my grandparents had a chicken farm and a pig farm. I guess you haven't been to either one. Not to be compared not even close.

Unless you are referring to the many western run factory 'farms' where chickens are electrocuted, beaten, and crammed together diseased, fed garbage, while injected with hormones and other drugs, etc...

My grandparents never used pesticides in their produce, nor did they feed unnatural things to the animals. I can't come to see where the comparison between the two creatures comes even close.

One loves to eat even it's own dead and piss, chickens on the other hand i've watched them eat pebbles, grass, but definitely not their own dead.

Pigs love to roll around and live in shit and mud.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: garebear on October 17, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
Ahmed, should we not eat vegetables since they have fertilizer (oftentimes human shit) put on them?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: avxo on October 17, 2012, 07:50:56 PM
lol at islamophobes coming to a thread about pork. Yes ignorance is a threat to mankind. Knowledge of Islam is a threat to the western elites and idiots with political agendas or who fear their power/wealth to be affected by Islam because of their own desires/injustices :) Look look islam in it's fundementals:

Knowledge is never a threat. Belief in Islam is a threat, but not to western elites; to brain cells.


Pigs love to roll around and live in shit and mud.

They are as Allah made them. Surely you don't think he made a mistake in not giving pigs sweat glands, do you?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 17, 2012, 09:53:27 PM
mmmm, that is odd...  

Ok, anyway, this is the biggest dumbshit argument I've ever heard.  Retard blink 200 times a minute Joel Olsteen says that the digestive system of a pig can't process all the toxins out of food because it only takes 4 hours. ::)  The digestive system isn't the only organ that processes toxins out of the body so going by how long it takes a pig to move food to crap is meaningless.

And this is funny, the jackass says you can't eat anything that scavenges.  No shrimp... no crabs.... ::)  No oysters ::)  but he says fish are ok... but the stupid fucking assclown doesn't know that some fish are bottom feeders and do the same thing.  what an ass. And some of those bottom feeders make for the best eating like: catfish, halibut, flounder, bass and cod.  There is nothing inherently toxic about eating shimp, clams or all these others seafoods...  This is religious nuttbaggery that deserves nothing but a punch in the face of the ignoramous spewing it.  But hey, he said fish are ok so the assclowns in the audience will go out and buy fish to eat... Chances are many will end up buying bottom feeders like flounder and halibut and feel really happy about themselves even though they are now eating an animal that pretty much eats the crap left over on the bottom of the waters the same as he warned against eating other things for lol...

A_ahmed is now probably saying, "oh shit... wait mom, scratch the tilapia from the shopping list"

wow... good breakdown! thanks


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: whork on October 18, 2012, 05:14:50 AM
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245




So why is Taleban shooting children who go to school again?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Purge_WTF on October 18, 2012, 06:48:46 AM
From the Book of Mark:

14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.” [16] [f]

17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 18, 2012, 08:34:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13N1udaj5g

rotflmao how can these fools lie this bad ha ha ha ha


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 18, 2012, 08:45:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNPNuczz-Lk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 18, 2012, 09:11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RycPS5dxzLo


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 18, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
lol what denial. He is making lots of money and that's the reason he's doing this. He obviously could care less about God or Palestine or his family. He is a weak individual who could not endure the suffering in Palestine and chose instead the life of luxury and comfort in the west. Easy to make money through Islam bashing. Takes only a few iq points to go to some islamophobe websites and start quoting the same non-sense. It works on ignorants like yourself. However anyone who opens the qur'an will realize it is nothing like what he is saying.

Like in that verse he quoted about kill them wherever you find them idolators LOL... an ignorant like yourself would read that and go THEY ARE EEVIIL THESE MOZZLEMS.. yet you have not read what verses come before or the one right after! :) It's amusing! Shows what a tool you are and how ignorant you are. It was about a treaty to perform hajj with the idolators, but they broke the treaty. Right after it, it says but do not transgress, escort people to places of safety if they do not fight/etc... protect people/etc...

He is making money for feeding on ignorance and hate. You are not benefitting anyone or making money. Only making yourself look like a fool.

He takes pleasure in listening to applause saying "Israel... MY COUNTRY" LOL. He's an easy person to get to say anything or do anything for money. A weak individual. He will make a fine american politician just like obama and romney. They will bend over for $$$

Frauds are not 'telling the truth exposing the truth' lol. It's laughable. You're getting excited over an opportunist for profit.
HA HA Their is nothing wrong with making money, and the reason he is doing it isn't money, it's to expose you sick twisted Muslims for what you are - Terrorists.  A Lot of us already know this, Mosab Hassan Yousef is just the icing on the cake.  You never see Christians leaving their faith claiming Jesus is a terrorist, but when a Muslim does it, and calls out Muhammad for what he was, nobody has any trouble believing it.  Intelligent people already knew! Thanks Mosab for confirming what we already knew and risking your life against these child like Muslims who throw hissy fits every-time they don't get their own way.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 19, 2012, 07:32:41 AM
lol at intelligent people. Like Terry Jones right :) Yes he's doing it for money, and that's the only reason he would spend any of his personal time as he doesn't work and is an immigrant leeching on your money and ignorance :) He doesn't care about God, family or country. He abandoned his family, abandoned his people and land, and certainly abandoned God. He sold his soul for $$$. He's a weak and pathetic individual, a perfect american politician, who will say and do anything for money.

Just look at his Israel speech, "My country", lol. He is filthy rich living in California.

That Walid Shoebat another favourite of people such as yourself is calling him a fraud because he is taking from his profits lmao.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 19, 2012, 07:57:17 AM
hahahahhaa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbH72GDS3xc

A fine American politician, $$$$$ living the life in California while not working just bullshitting for money :)


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 19, 2012, 09:40:01 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: a_ahmed on October 19, 2012, 09:51:59 AM
Yeah and what terrifies you is american white women with qurans?

You are getting desperate  ::) Making yourself look like a fool.

Islam encourages all Muslims (male and female) to seek knowledge, in fact, it is MANDATORY to seek knowledge and be educated.

You should take it up with these preislamic tribal cultures not Islam. As I've already said before. Where's your anger at Nigerian Christians killing their daughters for honour? Where's your anger at Indian Hindus throwing acid on their daughter's faces? These are perverse backwards cultures and I am against them too and so is Islam.

You are just feeding the magic television propaganda dragon, or rather you are being fed it's fumes :)


Title: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on October 19, 2012, 02:22:36 PM
 ;D

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs23/f/2007/342/6/0/Muslim_Women_are_So_Ninja_by_mindfornication.jpg)


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Radical Plato on October 20, 2012, 02:30:03 AM
Yeah and what terrifies you is american white women with qurans?

You are getting desperate  ::) Making yourself look like a fool.

Islam encourages all Muslims (male and female) to seek knowledge, in fact, it is MANDATORY to seek knowledge and be educated.

You should take it up with these preislamic tribal cultures not Islam. As I've already said before. Where's your anger at Nigerian Christians killing their daughters for honour? Where's your anger at Indian Hindus throwing acid on their daughter's faces? These are perverse backwards cultures and I am against them too and so is Islam.

You are just feeding the magic television propaganda dragon, or rather you are being fed it's fumes :)
Oh, we're angry at Nigerian Christians killing their daughters for honour and Indian Hindus throwing acid on their daughter's faces? They just don't come on GETBIG and promote it like it's a wonderful thing!


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 20, 2012, 02:31:56 AM
lol at intelligent people. Like Terry Jones right :) Yes he's doing it for money, and that's the only reason he would spend any of his personal time as he doesn't work and is an immigrant leeching on your money and ignorance :) He doesn't care about God, family or country. He abandoned his family, abandoned his people and land, and certainly abandoned God. He sold his soul for $$$. He's a weak and pathetic individual, a perfect american politician, who will say and do anything for money.

Just look at his Israel speech, "My country", lol. He is filthy rich living in California.

That Walid Shoebat another favourite of people such as yourself is calling him a fraud because he is taking from his profits lmao.
he's a religious idiot, same as you.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: garebear on October 20, 2012, 03:47:55 AM
Quote
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245




So why is Taleban shooting children who go to school again?
Maybe she ate a pulled pork sandwich.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 20, 2012, 03:50:29 AM
Asking idiotic questions does not deserve a response. I've already responded to plenty of idiotic questions only to not really help you as you persist in the same idiotic questions not because you are sincere but because you just want to repeat stupidity. It only makes you look like a stupid tool and a fool.

If you want to believe all the bs you've been spoon fed against Islam, be my guest. You only look like an ignorant idiot. "Islam iz of ze devil", "Dem mozzlemz evil", "Dem mozzlems killz them ppls", "Dem mozzlemz moon worshiping pagans".

These kind of constant idioitic questions (that are really your angry utterances and statements) have been answered over and over again. Your new idiotic question is "can we haz them slavez". I'm sure you'll come up with other idiotic things to say (not ask) so keep fooling yourself. Islam came ultimately to liberate slaves, as slavery was a common thing in the world. Those that were slaves were to be treated with kindness and Muslims were instructed to free slaves, Muhammad (pbuh) and his family alone freed around 35,000 slaves. There's really no need to answer you as you are just looking to fulfil your own hatred and continue the ignorance.

In the end the reality on the ground is, a quarter of the 4 million american muslims  are converts. The highest rate of conversion world wide are white university educated women.

Clearly what you keep foolishly repeating is not affecting people that are learned, but merely keeps you and those others like yourself ignorant amongst yourselves only filled with hatred, lies, slanders, misinformation, all out foolishness.
Foolisnes like, say, oh I don't know, shooting teenage girls in the head for going to school?



Title: Re: Pork
Post by: 24KT on October 20, 2012, 04:45:59 AM
Quote
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God…” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 245

So why is Taleban shooting children who go to school again?

Maybe you should ask a Taleban?

Maybe they are not following Islam?

Maybe they think killing them is the quickest way for them to reach paradise?

Isn't it clear by now that Ahmed does not condone or believe in what the taliban is doing?
Why do you keep asking him to justify the actions of those he opposes? That's ridiculous!


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: garebear on October 20, 2012, 05:56:05 AM
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Title: lol age and maturity
Post by: a_ahmed on October 20, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkxy28xaAQg


Title: Re: lol age and maturity
Post by: Shockwave on October 20, 2012, 07:34:04 PM
Pity bump.


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: OzmO on October 21, 2012, 07:58:13 PM
I love bacon,shellfish too.

I heard the ants talking about them.


Title: Re: lol age and maturity
Post by: a_ahmed on October 21, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/guy-new-study-shows.html

Boys reach puberty two years earlier than in the past... and some start to mature at the age of six

Boys are hitting puberty up to two years earlier than in the past – with some starting to show the first signs of maturing as young as six, according to doctors.

Although it is well-documented that girls are hitting puberty younger, the study is one of the first to suggest that boys are also growing up earlier.

Data gathered from 4,000 boys across the US revealed that, on average, white and Hispanic boys go through puberty around the age of ten, while the average age is nine for black boys.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/21/article-2220832-159A64FC000005DC-881_634x420.jpg)
Early: Researchers have found signs of puberty in American boys up to two years earlier than previously reported (stock photo)

Researchers working for the American Academy of Paediatrics said that a similar trend had been noticed in other countries, including the UK.

The doctors who volunteered for the study had examined young male patients for signs of puberty.

Nine per cent of white boys showed some signs of puberty at six, as did almost 20 per cent of black boys and 7 per cent of Hispanics, the AAP’s annual conference heard.

Overall, the average age of the onset of puberty was 18 months earlier than the long-considered figure of 11.5 years for white boys and two years earlier for black children, who had been thought to start developing aged 11.

The reasons for the shift are unclear but experts warned the results could be skewed because the doctors had volunteered to take part, so they might have had a special interest in the topic because they had more patients going through early puberty than most.
 
Dr William Adelman, an adolescent medicine specialist in the Baltimore area, says the new research is the first to find early, strong physical evidence that boys are maturing earlier. But he added that the study still isn't proof and said it raises a lot of questions.

Earlier research based on 20-year-old national data also suggested a trend toward early puberty in boys, but it was based on less rigorous information. The new study involved testes measurements in more than 4,000 boys. Enlargement of testes is generally the earliest sign of puberty in boys.

The study was published online Saturday in Pediatrics to coincide with the American Academy of Pediatrics' national conference in New Orleans.

Dr Neerav Desai, an adolescent medicine specialist at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, said he's seen a subtle trend toward slightly earlier puberty in boys. He said it's important for parents and doctors to be aware so they can help children emotionally prepare for the changes that come with puberty.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/21/article-2220832-159A64F4000005DC-550_634x422.jpg)
Sooner: Other studies have suggested that girls, too, are entering puberty younger (stock photo)

Doctors generally consider puberty early if it begins before age 8 in girls and before age 9 in boys.

Boys are more likely than girls to have an underlying physical cause for early puberty. But it's likely that most, if not all, of the boys in the study were free of any conditions that might explain the results, said lead author Marcia Herman-Giddens, a researcher at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill.

Problems such as thyroid abnormalities and brain tumors have been linked to early puberty. But boys with chronic medical conditions or who were using medicines that could affect puberty were excluded from the research.

In girls, early puberty has been linked with increased chances for developing breast cancer, but whether it poses health risks for boys is uncertain. Some scientists think early testes development may increase the risk for testicular cancer, but a recent research analysis found no such link.

'If it's true that boys are starting puberty younger, it's not clear that means anything negative or has any implications for long-term,' said Adelman, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' committee on adolescence.

For the new study, researchers recruited pediatricians in 41 states who participate in the academy's office-based research network. Doctors asked parents and boys aged 6 to 16 to take part during regular checkups. The visits took place between 2005 and 2010.

Half of the boys were white. The rest were almost evenly divided among blacks and Hispanics.

On average, white boys started puberty at age 10, a year and a half earlier than what has long been considered the normal average. For black boys, the average age of 9 was about two years earlier than in previous research. Among Hispanics, age 10 was similar to previous research that only involved Mexican-American boys. The new study included boys from other Hispanic backgrounds.

Testes enlargement was seen at age 6 in 9 percent of white boys, almost 20 percent of blacks and 7 percent of Hispanics.

Pubic hair growth, another early sign of puberty, started about a year after testes enlargement in all groups but still earlier than previously thought.

In girls, breast development is the first sign, and recent research suggested that it starts at age 7 in about 10 per cent of white girls, 23 per cent of blacks and 15 per cent of Hispanics. That's substantially higher than rates reported more than a decade ago.

But some experts have questioned methods used in studies in girls, noting that the age when girls start menstruating has not changed much and remains around age 12 on average.

Dr Dianne Deplewski, a pediatric endocrinologist at the University of Chicago, has not seen any increase in boys referred to her for signs of early puberty. She said it's possible that the new study results were skewed by families who brought their boys to the doctor because they already had concerns about their health.

The study had other limitations. Testes were measured just once, and doctors weren't randomly recruited but volunteered to participate. That means it's possible that those with early maturing patients were overly represented, but Herman-Giddens said it's unlikely boys in the study were different from those in the general U.S. population.

She said the research methods weren't perfect but that they're the best to date. She also stressed that the results shouldn't be used to establish a 'new normal' for the start of puberty in boys.

'Just because this is happening doesn't mean this is normal or healthy,' the researcher said.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 22, 2012, 12:44:30 AM
Ahmed, is this true or false?


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Stefano on October 22, 2012, 01:27:10 AM

Isn't it clear by now that Ahmed does not condone or believe in what the taliban is doing?
Why do you keep asking him to justify the actions of those he opposes? That's ridiculous!

Yes he does agree with talibanana viewpoints. He agreed that they should destroy the buddhist statues in afganistan because its idol worship ::). Those statues are a part of world history. Apparently islam does not tolerate other religions as they claim they do.  His claim was there are no buddhists in afganistan so its apparently ok. How about the statues of Iold greek gods or egyptian gods? Should those be destroyed because that religion no longer exists?

Ahmutt is basically an intolerant asshole who tries to impose his views oonto others with no respect for any other religion. He's already sniping away at the christians on this board. He's already called buddhists and hindus false religions becuase they dojt conform to his way of thinking. So much for islam being tolerant of other religions. Whether you worship idols, fire, lampost etc..it doesnt matter. Worship is worship and comes in many forms. Who is he to decide what is the right form of worship? Becuase his magic book says so?
Fuck that noise.

Its good to know you support him. Now we know where you stand


Title: Re: Pork
Post by: Thick Nick on October 22, 2012, 05:42:33 AM
Maybe you should ask a Taleban?

Maybe they are not following Islam?

Maybe they think killing them is the quickest way for them to reach paradise?

Isn't it clear by now that Ahmed does not condone or believe in what the taliban is doing?
Why do you keep asking him to justify the actions of those he opposes? That's ridiculous!

Because there is a problem when the guy doing the shooting says I DO THIS EVIL IN THE NAME OF ISLAM...and then Ahmed says he didn't do it for Islam. If they weren't video taping them selves saying they do shit in the name of Allah (satan) then you might have an argument. You sound like a stupid troll tbh.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Stefano on October 23, 2012, 03:02:40 PM
Ahmed, is this true or false?

He's probably in the crowd somewhere  :D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on October 24, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 25, 2012, 08:40:20 AM
^I wonder what picture you would use for Jews who dress in that style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jIp-h63A4Q


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 25, 2012, 01:33:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obOZMK9QzBI


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 25, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obOZMK9QzBI
You're kidding yourself if you think those who oppose Islam will ever let that poison enter their home or communities.  Like anything evil in their midst, civilised cultures will rise against it and put crazy religious freaks back in their place.  Where I live, if you pulled your GETBIG trick of constantly forcing your beliefs down others throat, constantly carrying on about a religion that most here find repulsive, never leaving others alone and bothering them when they had clearly told you to fuck off, you would be seriously beat down, that's A fact.  You seriously underestimate how much people from the Western World will resist EVIL (islam) and stand up for what is right, and just because you have some sick belief that you have a RIGHT to force your nonsense onto others, their are millions of people here ready to let you know otherwise. "BY HOOK OR BY CROOK"


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 25, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
lol you are an angry child.

It is entering homes everywhere, Islam is talked about every day even if it is slandered every day, it is spreading everywhere.

It is in fact based on a prophecy Muhammad (pbuh) made. That Islam will spread far and wide that not a single home will be left out of hearing about it's message.

I don't get your problem, you have these deep rooted anger issues and you are taking it out on muslims and islam. You are not detering us from worshipping God or calling others towrds God or explaining what we believe. You are just angry. Anger is not good for the heart. I mean look at yourself you have a slander and lie against Muhammad (pbuh) in your signature sliding around. Have you no sense man?

From sahih bukhari hadith:

Muhamad (pbuh) said: "The man is not a good wrestler; the strong man is in fact the person who controls himself at the time of anger."

It's not the 'physically stronger' person that is a strong man but one that controls himself at the time of anger.

Here's a neat link on view of anger in islam:
Edit: its not letting me post the link it edits it:
http://www.islamawareness. net /Anger/anger.html
None of us are perfect, we are only human, only God is perfect, but you should learn from Islam and not bash us.

By the way no one is forcing anything on you, but advising you. It is only yourself that can change yourself.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 25, 2012, 04:38:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNPNuczz-Lk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 25, 2012, 04:41:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttvzPVI9thg


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 25, 2012, 10:49:22 PM
lol you are an angry child.

It is entering homes everywhere, Islam is talked about every day even if it is slandered every day, it is spreading everywhere.

It is in fact based on a prophecy Muhammad (pbuh) made. That Islam will spread far and wide that not a single home will be left out of hearing about it's message.

I don't get your problem, you have these deep rooted anger issues and you are taking it out on muslims and islam. You are not detering us from worshipping God or calling others towrds God or explaining what we believe. You are just angry. Anger is not good for the heart. I mean look at yourself you have a slander and lie against Muhammad (pbuh) in your signature sliding around. Have you no sense man?

From sahih bukhari hadith:

Muhamad (pbuh) said: "The man is not a good wrestler; the strong man is in fact the person who controls himself at the time of anger."

It's not the 'physically stronger' person that is a strong man but one that controls himself at the time of anger.

Here's a neat link on view of anger in islam:
Edit: its not letting me post the link it edits it:
http://www.islamawareness. net /Anger/anger.html
None of us are perfect, we are only human, only God is perfect, but you should learn from Islam and not bash us.

By the way no one is forcing anything on you, but advising you. It is only yourself that can change yourself.
LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert.  I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves.  In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it.  ISLAM never gets mentioned.  EVER!  People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN. 

For a people that don't care much for religion in general, what do you think they are going to do when they learn about the RELIGION OF HATE, the best things Muslims could do, is keep their mouths shit, for the more they teach the poison of the koran to non muslims, the more they will be hated, they are better of keeping to themselves and having others not give a flying fuck about them in the first place.  Islam and Muslim zealots will be the undoing of the religion and eventually see it wiped from the Planet Earth entirely.  Islam one day will be universally condemned and BANNED, if humanity is to evolve, I have no doubt this will eventually be implemented.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 25, 2012, 11:41:31 PM
LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert.  I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves.  In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it.  ISLAM never gets mentioned.  EVER!  People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN.  

Thank you.Just proves that muslims are not forcing islam onto australians.And of course they havent heard about islam, cause you probably brainwashed them about how evil religion is.
For a people that don't care much for religion in general, what do you think they are going to do when they learn about the RELIGION OF HATE, the best things Muslims could do, is keep their mouths shit, for the more they teach the poison of the koran to non muslims, the more they will be hated, they are better of keeping to themselves and having others not give a flying fuck about them in the first place.  Islam and Muslim zealots will be the undoing of the religion and eventually see it wiped from the Planet Earth entirely.  Islam one day will be universally condemned and BANNED, if humanity is to evolve, I have no doubt this will eventually be implemented.

THank you, just proves that muslims arent brainwashing australians.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 25, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
THank you, just proves that muslims arent brainwashing australians.
Australians aren't stupid enough to believe in medieval nonsense! We can see a scam from a million miles away! Plus, we're raised in a secular society to be open minded and critical thinkers.  This is the antidote to the evil that is Islam.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 26, 2012, 12:03:22 AM
Australians aren't stupid enough to believe in medieval nonsense! We can see a scam from a million miles away! Plus, we're raised in a secular society to be open minded and critical thinkers.  This is the antidote to the evil that is Islam.

How can they beleive in a medieval nonsense when they havent heard of islam? Dear o dear.

Of course they havent heard of religion when you probably brainwash them that religions are poison and that there is no god.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 01:41:32 AM
How can they beleive in a medieval nonsense when they havent heard of islam? Dear o dear.

Of course they havent heard of religion when you probably brainwash them that religions are poison and that there is no god.
We are a secular educated society, the average Australian knows a little about all religions, that is what is taught, and the average Aussie likes to self educate on such matters, the problem is, they don't know about the true Islam, what they hear is all the politically correct nonsense and the type of garbage you and A_ahmed come out with, deliberately disguising the true nature of Islam, like the Big Bad Wolf trying to deceive the three little pigs.  Even though they get the silver lined version of Islam, they're still not Interested, but because they are unaware of the more evil aspects of Islam they just ignore it, thinking it is an Innocent harmless religion.  The moment the extremists like you try and expand and force it onto them is when they will learn the truth, and moves will be made to shut it down or at the very least outlaw such an evil ideology.  

Read this article from today's paper, even though you Muslims like and pretend you don't support violence, over 25% of our population are onto your sociopathic BS and hold negative views towards Islam, as any decent minded person should.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance (http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance)

The average Muslim Australian is a coward though, they spout all the same nonsense as you, and storm the streets when they are outraged, but when other informed Australians stand up to them, they go back to hiding in their mosques with their tale between their legs plotting their next cowardly act.  The Muslims here know they are not taken seriously and are ridiculed and laughed at for their odd ways.  And this is the way it wall always be, Australians are progressive, and won't allow themselves to be dictated to by a bunch of brainwashed morons, Australians just see Muslims as like someone else's children, foolish, unlearned and sometimes annoying, we tolerate them, that's it.  And when have you ever heard of young children teaching the adults, it's not the natural order, nor will it ever be,


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 26, 2012, 12:24:35 PM
We are a secular educated society, the average Australian knows a little about all religions, that is what is taught, and the average Aussie likes to self educate on such matters, the problem is, they don't know about the true Islam, what they hear is all the politically correct nonsense and the type of garbage you and A_ahmed come out with, deliberately disguising the true nature of Islam, like the Big Bad Wolf trying to deceive the three little pigs.  Even though they get the silver lined version of Islam, they're still not Interested, but because they are unaware of the more evil aspects of Islam they just ignore it, thinking it is an Innocent harmless religion.  The moment the extremists like you try and expand and force it onto them is when they will learn the truth, and moves will be made to shut it down or at the very least outlaw such an evil ideology.  

Read this article from today's paper, even though you Muslims like and pretend you don't support violence, over 25% of our population are onto your sociopathic BS and hold negative views towards Islam, as any decent minded person should.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance (http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1705341/Eid:-Sydney's-Muslim-community-leaders-call-for-tolerance)

The average Muslim Australian is a coward though, they spout all the same nonsense as you, and storm the streets when they are outraged, but when other informed Australians stand up to them, they go back to hiding in their mosques with their tale between their legs plotting their next cowardly act.  The Muslims here know they are not taken seriously and are ridiculed and laughed at for their odd ways.  And this is the way it wall always be, Australians are progressive, and won't allow themselves to be dictated to by a bunch of brainwashed morons, Australians just see Muslims as like someone else's children, foolish, unlearned and sometimes annoying, we tolerate them, that's it.  And when have you ever heard of young children teaching the adults, it's not the natural order, nor will it ever be,

I know that political and structural landscape of australia, i am a australian and was born in australia and im also a member of the labor party. I dont need it hear it from you.

Of course i dont support viloence, where did i ever imply that you think i promote violence?

How can i disguise the true religion of islam when ive only explained the basic tenants of islam and ive linked a basic pdf file on what islam actually is?


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 26, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
lol you are an angry child.

It is entering homes everywhere, Islam is talked about every day even if it is slandered every day, it is spreading everywhere.

It is in fact based on a prophecy Muhammad (pbuh) made. That Islam will spread far and wide that not a single home will be left out of hearing about it's message.

I don't get your problem, you have these deep rooted anger issues and you are taking it out on muslims and islam. You are not detering us from worshipping God or calling others towrds God or explaining what we believe. You are just angry. Anger is not good for the heart. I mean look at yourself you have a slander and lie against Muhammad (pbuh) in your signature sliding around. Have you no sense man?

From sahih bukhari hadith:

Muhamad (pbuh) said: "The man is not a good wrestler; the strong man is in fact the person who controls himself at the time of anger."

It's not the 'physically stronger' person that is a strong man but one that controls himself at the time of anger.

Here's a neat link on view of anger in islam:
Edit: its not letting me post the link it edits it:
http://www.islamawareness. net /Anger/anger.html
None of us are perfect, we are only human, only God is perfect, but you should learn from Islam and not bash us.

By the way no one is forcing anything on you, but advising you. It is only yourself that can change yourself.

Ahmed, you just need to remove the spaces.

Here's the link for those who want it

www.islamawareness[dot] net /Anger /anger.html

Wow, this has to be a Zionist conspiracy that prevents the link from being posted.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 26, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
LOL being talked about everyday, the only time Australians talk about it is when Islamic protesters come out in Public threatening everyone, then Australians talk about beating the ignorant towel heads back to the desert.  I asked my partners daughter, she is 18, and her young friends if they had ever heard of Islam or the Koran, they shrugged their shoulders and said 'NO' and didn't even bother asking what it was, I asked them if they had heard of Muhummad, and they responded "you mean the Boxer", I said, no the prophet, Once again they said "NO" didn't bother enquiring further and just continued talking amongst themselves.  In 40 years in the same place, the same country, working and living alongside Australians, I have never once heard them mention Islam or the Koran or Muhummad (NOT ONCE) unless like I said, the Muslims start their evangelistic bullshit or protest in the streets, then the only talk is how can we beat these barbarians back to the desert, that's it.  ISLAM never gets mentioned.  EVER!  People just don't like religion in general here, any attempts to force one's belief on others normally results in a loud FUCK OFF or in worse case scenarios if the evangelical zealot doesn't listen, a serious BEATDOWN. 

Hmmm... not quite sure how to word this diplomatically.

You're saying that your partner's daughter who is 18 had never heard of Islam or the Qur'an?

You also previously stated that you too had never heard of Islam until you started reading Ahmed's posts on GetBig? Is this accurate? E-Kul, what does that say about your level of awareness? ...or for that matter how you & your partner are raising or educating that child?

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For a people that don't care much for religion in general, what do you think they are going to do when they learn about the RELIGION OF HATE, the best things Muslims could do, is keep their mouths shit, for the more they teach the poison of the koran to non muslims, the more they will be hated, they are better of keeping to themselves and having others not give a flying fuck about them in the first place.  Islam and Muslim zealots will be the undoing of the religion and eventually see it wiped from the Planet Earth entirely.  Islam one day will be universally condemned and BANNED, if humanity is to evolve, I have no doubt this will eventually be implemented.

Religious zealots will be the undoing of any organized religion. So far, the biggest organic nutjobs I've encountered so far are warped zealous evangelical christians. The biggest inorganic nutjobs I've seen are the warped twisted perverse one being funded by the US government to create instability in the middle east.

I have no doubt that one day religion will be forced underground.

I have always said:

Religion is like a Penis.
It's nice that you have one.
it's great that it gives you pleasure.
It's fine to be proud of it,
...but please don't go whipping it out in public.
...and for goodness sake, don't try to shove it down my throat.

That said, ...if you have a problem with religion, why are you reading & posting on a Religious discussion board?

Are you a secret masochist who enjoys pain? ...or are you simply looking for an outlet to channel alot of pent up anger & hostility? What gives?


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 03:44:57 PM
Hmmm... not quite sure how to word this diplomatically.

You're saying that your partner's daughter who is 18 had never heard of Islam or the Qur'an?

You also previously stated that you too had never heard of Islam until you started reading Ahmed's posts on GetBig? Is this accurate? E-Kul, what does that say about your level of awareness? ...or for that matter how you & your partner are raising or educating that child?




That said, ...if you have a problem with religion, why are you reading & posting on a Religious discussion board?

I never stated that I had never heard of Islam, what I said I was unaware of the true Nature of Islam and that a-ahmed helped point it out.  The simple fact is, today's generation are happy not knowing about poisonous ideologies, and why would agnostics educate children about Islam, we teach them, that man is still poorly evolved and know very little about the universe they live or it's origins, we then point them towards the great thinkers of modern times and the current theories being presented.  My partners daughter knows about great thinkers and activists like Noam Chomsky, Stephen Hawkings, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Sigmund Freud, Julian Assange, Shakespeare, Charles Darwin etc etc.  This people are far more relevant and enlightened than some dark ages pedo called Muhammad.   The kids today easily see through religion and it's hidden agenda, they are more than happy to have nothing to do with it.  Lots of people are simply not interested in any religion, particularly the more sinister ones like Islam.  We are already content and happy, we found a way to achieve this without believing in fairy tales and medieval texts. 

And I post in a Religious thread (on a body-building board) to counter your BS and in the hope that you religious zealots will eventually fuck off to somewhere where you are welcomed and stop your evangelical crusade via a Bodybuilding forum.  People like to discuss religion, not have evangelists force their lies and propaganda down other peoples throats.  That's the difference between you and I, you wish to force your agenda and beliefs down other peoples throats while others are happy to discuss their ideas and theories.  It is the arrogance of Muslims that is despised, their refusal to listen to others and their righteous grandiosity pretending they are somehow right and everyone else is wrong.  Muslims will never be accepted by free thinking people, they are arrogant, and closed minded, their minds have been closed by ignorance and repetition of lies sold as truth.  Enlightening  a Muslim is like trying to pour water into a cup that is already full.  It is impossible,


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 07:10:33 PM
It seems the one fueled by poisonous ideology and hatred and verbal violence is only you and yourself my friend.

The way you're sounding is like a grey haired, wrinkly skinned dude who is holding a butcher knife with clenched teeth and foaming at the mouth while spitting as you 'talk' and talking about the 'evils' of islam and muslims.

Get off your high horse, you're drunk on anger and ignorance...

I mean you have refused to read the qur'an but like a lunatic posted verses out of context like you 'know something'.

You are focusing on the stereotypical negative vibes that are already ignorantly wide spread in society. You are not doing anyone service.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 07:29:10 PM
It seems the one fueled by poisonous ideology and hatred and verbal violence is only you and yourself my friend.

The way you're sounding is like a grey haired, wrinkly skinned dude who is holding a butcher knife with clenched teeth and foaming at the mouth while spitting as you 'talk' and talking about the 'evils' of islam and muslims.

Get off your high horse, you're drunk on anger and ignorance...

I mean you have refused to read the qur'an but like a lunatic posted verses out of context like you 'know something'.

You are focusing on the stereotypical negative vibes that are already ignorantly wide spread in society. You are not doing anyone service.

HA HA Angry Muslim accuses me of being some crazed lunatic HA HA The Irony!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 07:34:34 PM
HA HA Angry Muslim accuses me of being some crazed lunatic HA HA The Irony!

lol trust me i'm pretty chill and relaxed as they get. You on the other hand, I wouldn't feel comfortable having you around school chidlren the way you think and talk. You're a walking angry time bomb about to burst out. You have serious bottled up issues from your childhood man.

Let go and turn a page in your life seriously man. You're just appearing totally ignorant and foolish, aside from seriously hate and anger filled.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
lol trust me i'm pretty chill and relaxed as they get. You on the other hand, I wouldn't feel comfortable having you around school chidlren the way you think and talk. You're a walking angry time bomb about to burst out. You have serious bottled up issues from your childhood man.

Let go and turn a page in your life seriously man. You're just appearing totally ignorant and foolish, aside from seriously hate and anger filled.
I am a very calm controlled individual, what would fill me with hate though, is to follow a religion based on war, violence and terrorism, I would be doing a disservice to myself and to humanity to support such an ideology or religion.  Nobody would call someone who stood firm against NAZISM  as hateful, but strangely, those who support the Regime accuse those who oppose them of exactly that.  This is a very common technique used by any group that is not accepted by society, HATE groups (like ISLAM) always find ways to justify their ways and neutralise the justified discrimination that is deservedly sent their way.  Ironically, the HATE FILLED Group only need drop their distasteful and terrorist ways for them to become accepted, but they have become so enmeshed in their EVIL ways, to return again to normality or humanity proves too difficult.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 26, 2012, 07:46:49 PM
I never stated that I had never heard of Islam,

My mistake. I thought that was what you had said in a previous thread.

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what I said I was unaware of the true Nature of Islam and that a-ahmed helped point it out.  The simple fact is, today's generation are happy not knowing about poisonous ideologies, and why would agnostics educate children about Islam, we teach them, that man is still poorly evolved and know very little about the universe they live or it's origins, we then point them towards the great thinkers of modern times and the current theories being presented.  My partners daughter knows about great thinkers and activists like Noam Chomsky, Stephen Hawkings, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Sigmund Freud, Julian Assange, Shakespeare, Charles Darwin etc etc.  This people are far more relevant and enlightened than some dark ages pedo called Muhammad.   The kids today easily see through religion and it's hidden agenda, they are more than happy to have nothing to do with it.  Lots of people are simply not interested in any religion, particularly the more sinister ones like Islam.  We are already content and happy, we found a way to achieve this without believing in fairy tales and medieval texts. 

And I post in a Religious thread (on a body-building board) to counter your BS and in the hope that you religious zealots will eventually fuck off to somewhere where you are welcomed and stop your evangelical crusade via a Bodybuilding forum. People like to discuss religion, not have evangelists force their lies and propaganda down other peoples throats.  That's the difference between you and I, you wish to force your agenda and beliefs down other peoples throats while others are happy to discuss their ideas and theories.   It is the arrogance of Muslims that is despised, their refusal to listen to others and their righteous grandiosity pretending they are somehow right and everyone else is wrong.  Muslims will never be accepted by free thinking people, they are arrogant, and closed minded, their minds have been closed by ignorance and repetition of lies sold as truth.  Enlightening  a Muslim is like trying to pour water into a cup that is already full.  It is impossible,

Me, ... a religious zealot, ...on an evangelical crusade?!!!   :o

WOW!!! All I can say is I'm truly embarrassed for you.   :-[


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 07:50:12 PM
I am a very calm controlled individual, what would fill me with hate though, is to follow a religion based on war, violence and terrorism, I would be doing a disservice to myself and to humanity to support such an ideology or religion.  Nobody would call someone who stood firm against NAZISM  as hateful, but strangely, those who support the Regime accuse those who oppose them of exactly that.  This is a very common technique used by any group that is not accepted by society, HATE groups (like ISLAM) always find ways to justify their ways and neutralise the justified discrimination that is deservedly sent their way.  Ironically, the HATE FILLED Group only need drop their distasteful and terrorist ways for them to become accepted, but they have become so enmeshed in their EVIL ways, to return again to normality or humanity proves too difficult.

What the hell are you even raving on about? Man can you make even a little bit of sense.

You are sounding exactly like this:

ISLAMZ WAR ISLAM EVIL ISLAM WOMEN ABUSE ISLAM ISLAM ISLAM SCARY ISLAAAAAAAAAAaaAAaaAAaaA M WAR ISLAAAAAM I AM ANGRYYYY ISLAAAAAM

Dear God... You have issues.

Oh yeah and just pssst insider secret from being mozzzlemmm..... we all have our own personal swords and when you become mozzlemzmzzzmzmzm you get a sword and then we in our secret meetings go lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lala

And we make angry faces

ALLAHU AKBAR :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 07:53:04 PM
My mistake. I thought that was what you had said in a previous thread.

Me, ... a religious zealot, ...on an evangelical crusade?!!!   :o

WOW!!! All I can say is I'm truly embarrassed for you.   :-[


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So 24kt do you want a sword of gold LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL sorry couldn't hold myself.. I burst out laughing.. clever I know.

Oh boy...


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Ah yes where e-kul gets his information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1ZNEjEarw

And yes we really fly magic carpets and have pet monkies:

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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 09:52:45 PM
What the hell are you even raving on about? Man can you make even a little bit of sense.

You are sounding exactly like this:

ISLAMZ WAR ISLAM EVIL ISLAM WOMEN ABUSE ISLAM ISLAM ISLAM SCARY ISLAAAAAAAAAAaaAAaaAAaaA M WAR ISLAAAAAM I AM ANGRYYYY ISLAAAAAM

Dear God... You have issues.

Oh yeah and just pssst insider secret from being mozzzlemmm..... we all have our own personal swords and when you become mozzlemzmzzzmzmzm you get a sword and then we in our secret meetings go lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lalalalalalalalalalalala lala

And we make angry faces

ALLAHU AKBAR :)
LOL at Muslim Meltdown, they can only hear the TRUTH for so long before it leads to this! HA HA HA HA it was only a matter of time before a-ahmed lost his marbles, who didn't see this coming! ROTFL


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 09:58:47 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 10:09:24 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 26, 2012, 10:13:47 PM
lol at e-kul's childhood melt down  ::)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 26, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 01:01:02 AM
lol at e-kul's childhood melt down  ::)

Lol,cause the guy is having a hard time convincing muslims like me and you to leave there religion, and is running out of posts to recycle, so resorts to pictures.

Maybe E-kul can posts pictures of dead muslims by the use of drones, pictures of dead women and children by american terrorists in iraq and afghanistan, pictures of destruction of homes in israel, American soldiers destroying mosques and burning the koran, pissing on dead afghans who are protecting their country, treatment of muslims in guantanamoa bay and abu gharaib, etc, wont hold my breath.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 01:03:35 AM
Falk: Boycott firms profiting from Israel settlements
 
An independent UN expert has urged a boycott of all the companies that make capital out of the expansion of illegal Israeli settlements in Tel Aviv-occupied West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem).
 

Richard Falk, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, demanded the ban in a report he submitted to the UN General Assembly on Thursday.
 
“My main recommendation is that the businesses highlighted in the report - as well as the many other businesses that are profiting from the Israeli settlement enterprise - should be boycotted, until they bring their operations into line with international human rights and humanitarian law and standards,” Falk said in a news release, issued as he presented the report titled, "Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories since 1967.”
 
Falk’s report singled out Caterpillar, Hewlett Packard and Motorola of the United States, Veolia Environment of France, G4S of Britain, Dexia of Belgium, Volvo Group and Assa Abloy of Sweden, Ahava, Elbit Systems and Mehadrin of Israel, Riwal Holding Group of the Netherlands, and Cemex of Mexico.
 
Caterpillar, for example, has supplied the Israeli regime with “equipment, such as bulldozers and construction apparatus,” which are “used in the demolition of Palestinian homes, schools, orchards, olive groves, and crops,” the report said.
 
The UN investigator pointed out that the firms form just a small portion of the businesses operating in or assisting the expansion of the settlements in clear violation of "international law and standards concerning businesses and human rights, including the UN Global Compact and the UN Guiding Principles on Businesses and Human Rights."
 
"The focus on business activities is partly an expression of frustration about…the ineffectiveness of the UN efforts to condemn settlement expansion," Falk noted.
 
"The effort to reach out beyond the traditional way that the UN condemns things is an effort to take our role seriously enough to feel that we should try to use what influence we have to change behavior," he added.
 
Falk, an American professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University and a Jew himself, also called on the international community to pursue legal and political action against the companies, "especially where allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity can be substantiated in relation to settlement activities."
 
The United States and Israel censured the boycott call. On Thursday, the US Ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice said the boycott "poison the environment for peace."
 
Israel also called the report "grossly biased" and demanded that Falk be replaced.
 
About half a million Israelis live in over 120 settlements built since the 1967 Israeli occupation of the West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem).
 
The UN and the European Union consider the settlements built on either territory illegal under the international law due to their construction on occupied territory.
 
In his address to the UN General Assembly on September 27, Acting Palestinian Authority chief, Mahmoud Abbas condemned Israel’s “catastrophic” settlement expansion as part of Tel Aviv’s ethnic cleansing campaign against Palestinians and its attempt to change the historic demography of the region.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 01:05:07 AM
Myanmar buddhists set Muslim villages on fire, kill 11 Muslims in Rakhine


At least eleven Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar have been killed after extremist Buddhists set fire to their houses in two Muslim villages in the city of Sittwe in the western Rakhine state, a report says.
 

The incident occurred when a number of Buddhits backed by army and border forces set fire to houses of Muslims in the villages of Mamra and Mraut late Sunday, Radio Banga reported on Monday.
 
Myanmar army forces allegedly provided the Buddhists with big containers of petrol to set ablaze the houses of Muslim villagers and force them to flee their houses.
 

The silence of the human rights organizations towards abuses against the Rohingya Muslims has emboldened the extremist Buddhists and Myanmar’s government forces.
 
The Buddhist-majority government of Myanmar refuses to recognize Rohingyas and has classified them as illegal migrants, even though the Rohingyas are said to be Muslim descendants of Persian, Turkish, Bengali, and Pathan origin, who migrated to Myanmar as early as the 8th century.
 
According to reports, thousands of Myanmar’s Rohingya Muslims are living in dire conditions in refugee camps after government forces and Buddhist extremists started burning down their villages on August 10.
 
Reports say some 650 Rohingyas have been killed in the Rakhine state in the west of the country in recent months. This is while 1,200 others are missing and 80,000 more have been displaced


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
Bush, Blair wanted for crimes against humanity
 
A prominent international lawyer says former US President George W. Bush, and former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair stand guilty of crimes against peace, war crimes and torture, Press TV reports.
 

In November 2011, the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, in which Francis Boyle, a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, led the prosecution team, convicted Bush and Blair of crimes against peace and humanity, and genocide over their roles in the Iraq war.
 
On May 11, 2012, the tribunal also found Bush, former US Vice President Dick Cheney and former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld guilty of the crime of torture.
 
“We will keep after Bush and Blair for sure for crimes against peace, war crimes and torture in general,” Boyle told Press TV in a recent interview.
 
“We got them both convicted of a Nuremberg crime against peace,” he added while referring to the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the principles of international law recognized in the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal.
 
According to Principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances are crimes “punishable” under international law.
 
In September, Archbishop Desmond Tutu said Blair and Bush should be taken to the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague over their roles in the Iraq war.
 
“We are making efforts now to do this,” Boyle stated, adding, “We tried to get Bush in Switzerland, but his lawyers advised him not to go to Switzerland. I tried three times to get Bush in Canada, but unfortunately the Canadian government protected Bush.”
 

“The wheels of justice might turn slowly, but they do turn.”
 
Boyle also criticized the ICC for its failure to bring to justice US, UK and Israeli criminals.
 
“So far, they are just going after black thugs from Africa and not dealing with this wholesale mass murderers and criminals from the United States, Britain and Israel,” he said.
 
Boyle condemned the Israeli regime for “inflicting outright genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza,” adding that there will be hearings in November in Malaysia on the issue of Palestine.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 02:39:39 AM
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Post all the pics you want, im not offended, but your probably one of the most disrespectful, foolish, hateful human beings i have ever met.You will never push me from God, even if you gave me the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 27, 2012, 04:03:03 AM
Post all the pics you want, im not offended, but your probably one of the most disrespectful, foolish, hateful human beings i have ever met.You will never push me from God, even if you gave me the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left hand.


Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them.  There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Griffith on October 27, 2012, 04:27:06 AM
Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them.  There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.

Exactly.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 27, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
So you are trying to prevent us talking about God because you hate religion and God. Good for you. We'll keep talking about God and religion even if you hate it.

Why are you in this section? "Religion section". Go leave then. No one's pushing anything on you, just correcting your ridiculous ignorance and hatred.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: 24KT on October 27, 2012, 10:45:36 AM
What a way to veer a thread OFF-TOPIC! But then again, ...that was your intent wasn't it E-Kul?

You remind me of that scene in the horror movies when the demon is sprinkled with holy water.

Why does it make you so crazy to see people who have become Muslim? It's like someone threw acid on you. If it bothers you so much, ...why do you even click on the thread? Serious question.

Do you realize how you're appearing to clear thinking people?


Title: Jewish rabbi's view on Christianity, Islam and israel
Post by: a_ahmed on October 27, 2012, 11:13:01 AM
#Invalid YouTube Link#

Oh no he didn't :P


Title: Re: Jewish rabbi's view on Christianity, Islam and israel
Post by: 24KT on October 27, 2012, 11:15:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9a6blduFb0

Oh no he didn't :P

Ahmed, you need to post the youtube links without the secure links to get them to show.

ps: Oh yes he did.  :P


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 27, 2012, 12:02:23 PM
Do you realize how you're appearing to clear thinking people?

You know clear-thinking people? ???


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on October 27, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
Nobody's trying to push you from God, they're trying to prevent you from pushing God unto them.  There's a difference, see if you can tell what it is.

Get your frills and post pics.Im not pushing god onto anyone, im just correcting your rubbish and brainwashed mind.Theres a difference, see if you can tell what it is.

Even  the atheist religion wouldnt accept you into there religion.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 27, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
Even  the atheist religion wouldnt accept you into there religion.

Atheism is as much as a religion as bald is a hair color.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 27, 2012, 03:14:56 PM
^Atheism is a religion/way of life. You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc... except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hsI9gneC9w


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on October 27, 2012, 03:16:39 PM
From 50 years of missionary work to Islam :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPY9WFOjQ0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on October 27, 2012, 10:16:52 PM
^Atheism is a religion/way of life.

I don't think that's the case. First of, religion is the belief in and the worship of a superhuman controlling power, something which I clearly lack. And secondly, my atheism doesn't have any influence of my way of life per se. I'd be interested to hear why you think that atheism qualifies as a religion and, more importantly, a way of life?


You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc...

I wouldn't say I have beliefs – especially vis-à-vis deities – but I do have moral standards and an ethical code, which nothing to do with my atheism.


except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.

My purpose in life? Why, to live a decent life and enjoy my limited time on this earth. Deities don't factor into my life at all: I'm not interested in turning others away from God or convincing them to be atheists. My take is that what other people do or do not believe is their business and as long as they feel the same way, I'm cool with that.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on October 27, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
^Atheism is a religion/way of life. You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc... except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.

What a complete knob, how is the rejection of superstition a way of life.  Is the rejection of Santa Claus considered a way of life, it is simply a rejection of falsehoods, it may improve your quality of life and help you to see reality far clearer, but the rejection of falsehoods could never be considered a way of life.  Atheists couldn't care less about GOD, not only do you freaks want to claim that LIES are TRUTH and TRUTH is LIES, now you want to claim having no religion is a Religion.  How can anybody reason with such an irrational individual.  Moral standards have absolutely nothing to do with GOD and RELIGION, if anything Religion makes people more Perverse, cruel and murderous.  Morality makes perfect sense from an evolutionary perspective, although survival of the fittest is true, scratching other peoples backs ensures that the times you can't be competitive ensures that they will scratch yours, it is simply a survival strategy.  Simply put, ones survival potential is increased by team work.  If you want to know why people turn away from god, it has nothing to do with those who couldn't care less about GOD, it is because of zealots like you, your pushing of ideas and concepts onto people against their will, and your practice of a Religion of WAR.  You are the reason people turn from GOD.  But you are way too dumb too ever see that!

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg


Title: Re: Jewish rabbi's view on Christianity, Islam and israel
Post by: a_ahmed on October 28, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
Thanks 24kt, yeah I don't know for some reason my browser is viewing youtube lately in https, so when i copy paste i wasn't noticing.


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on October 28, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/3/1333451516124/Iran-female-ninjas-008.jpg)

lol


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: Radical Plato on October 28, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Muslims gonna Hate


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: pedro01 on October 29, 2012, 12:00:26 AM
I am a slave and servant of God while you are slave and servant of banksters, your military and government orders and your own uncontrollable desires

So you don't pay income taxes there in Canada?


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 29, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
Sorry to break the news to you, but truth isn't relative. Either Ahmed is right, or he's wrong; his beliefs are either true or false.

I think everyone here understands what I was trying to say.

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Egads, everybody threatens you with not working in the film industry again... First an agent whose yahoo you wouldn't google, then a guy whose church you wouldn't go to.

Oh no, ...there were quite a few in between, ...and I outlasted & outlived them all. lol.

If I had a dime for everytime that threat was hurled, ...I'd never have to work another day in my life. That seems to be one of the most common threats used against people in the industry. Personally, I think a more effective one would have been to threaten someone with actually having to work, ...on "Kung Fu ...the legend continues" on a day when David Carradine was on set.  Or threathen them with working on "Nikita" lol. Now THAT would be a threat with some teeth to it.

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Who's next? A chef whose food you won't taste?  ::)

The only chef with enough muscle to pull that off is Wolfgang Puck, ...and I like his food.  :P


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: garebear on October 29, 2012, 09:37:30 PM
Ahmed, do you think we should sew women's pussies shut?

Serious question.


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: tbombz on October 29, 2012, 09:55:38 PM
muslims celebrating violence.. nothing new here


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: avxo on October 29, 2012, 11:02:04 PM
Oh no, ...there were quite a few in between, ...and I outlasted & outlived them all. lol.

Your illustrious Hollywood career is, of course, legendary... which is why, having outlived and outlasted everyone, you're peddling gold by the gram via an affiliate program on a bodybuilding forum... ::)


If I had a dime for everytime that threat was hurled, ...I'd never have to work another day in my life.

I thought you don't like fiat money.


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: 24KT on October 30, 2012, 05:00:01 AM
Your illustrious Hollywood career is, of course, legendary... which is why, having outlived and outlasted everyone, you're peddling gold by the gram via an affiliate program on a bodybuilding forum... ::)

First of all, it wasn't a "Hollywood career", ...it was a "Hollywood North career" BIG DIFFERENCE!

I'm not peddling a thing. I'm simply informing GetBiggers about what is about to take shape.
Those with an ear to hear, and a twinkling of wisdom or understanding will listen, as for the rest... they can never say they were not warned.

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I thought you don't like fiat money.

...not relative to 24KT 999.9 pure LBMA gold karatbars.  :D

Maybe I should have instead said... "If I had a gold bar for everytime..." yada yada yada?
...but then again, ...you'd accuse me of trying to SPAM.

Now can we please behave like considerate adults, and allow this thread to get back ON TOPIC?


Title: Re: Exposing so called 'ex muslims'
Post by: Stefano on October 30, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Prophets and profits. Cant have one without the other. A Prophet profits from the superstitious backward individuals who dont know their ass from their face. Sort of like achmutt.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 01, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEgtAKtLXJ0


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2012, 10:28:04 AM
^Atheism is a religion/way of life. You have your beliefs, moral standards, ethics, beliefs, values, etc... except you reject God and you proselytize your rejection of God. After all why are you here? Your purpose in life? Turning people away from God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hsI9gneC9w

Congratulations to Justin from Texas.....I look forward to youtube updates on his beard growth!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 01, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
You should listen to Joshua Evans and Dr. Jerald Dirks stories of coming to Islam having studied christianity including seminaries. Including Joshua Evan's "how the bible led me to islam"

Another one I believe I posted in here I'd have to check is Idris Tawfiq (not his birth name) who was a priest and teacher in egypt (an English man) and how he came to Islam


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 01, 2012, 01:49:19 PM
I don't think I posted Yusuf Estes' story, he was a Texan pastor very well renown today amongst Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEb7jGtxSO8

We all have very similar experiences. It is not our ignorance that leads us away from Christianity but our awareness and education in christianity that lead us to Islam. Especially some of us who really put the effort in studying christianity.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 01, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vgkQ6JiJz4

subhanAllah this is amazing... never heard of this man mashAllah.

Quite a bit before embracing Islam I myself had a dream about Jesus (pbuh) who's face was bright and not quite visible but somehow I knew and felt it was Jesus wearing bright white robes. What he told me is "There is only one God". This happened around the time when I believed in God but was trying to find the truth, and I had a problem with the trinity, the more I discovered, discussed with teachers, read the bible, etc...

The dream he had on the other hand is a dream he had since he was 7 years old and he spent a good portion of his whole life trying to figure out the meaning of it.. amazing... mus twatch.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2012, 03:21:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vgkQ6JiJz4

subhanAllah this is amazing... never heard of this man mashAllah.

Quite a bit before embracing Islam I myself had a dream about Jesus (pbuh) who's face was bright and not quite visible but somehow I knew and felt it was Jesus wearing bright white robes. What he told me is "There is only one God". This happened around the time when I believed in God but was trying to find the truth, and I had a problem with the trinity, the more I discovered, discussed with teachers, read the bible, etc...

The dream he had on the other hand is a dream he had since he was 7 years old and he spent a good portion of his whole life trying to figure out the meaning of it.. amazing... mus twatch.
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus?  It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ.  I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah.  Maybe you could explain that a bit more.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 01, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus?  It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ.  I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah.  Maybe you could explain that a bit more.

Absolutely not how can someone come to such a stupid baseless conclusion?!?!

I did not know who Muhammad (pbuh) was and I loved Jesus, I loved all the stories of the prophets and to this day do. You do not realize this. I believed in God, I believed in all the prophets and messengers, however I did not believe in the lies of the church and the contradictions and man made lies. Jesus (pbuh_ was the perfect person God could chose for me to convey the message.

If I am in your dream and I tell you "There is only one God" am I saying I am God? If Satan came to you in your dream and said there is only one God (still true), does that mean satan is God?

Again this dream came to me WHILE I was studying the bible and could not accept the lies of the church. Knowing what Jesus was supposedly saying according to the NT, what the OT was saying about God I could not accept the later fabricated trinity. It was indeed meant for me to have this dream. There were a few other dreams I had since which were relevant as well..

It always struck me funny that Sistine Chapel 'illustrates' God as an 'old man' with a beard yet God says:

"You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. Exodus 20:4

Humans are certainly on the earth and the church has indeed perverted God's message


As far as 'emotions' go, this was just another nail in the conffin for me in my search. Much of what the prophets themselves were tested by and what was shown to them was via dreams. Are you not aware of that? To true believing people messages can come in forms of dreams as well. In Islam we call this 'true dreams'. There are devilish dreams, true dreams and dreams that reflect our daily thoughts. I had no doubt in my mind about this dream how it was. I do not usually relate it and in fact kept it to myself for a long time. I've had other relevant dreams since which to you may seem insignificant. I even had a dream about 8 months before finding my wife of my wife being veiled and shown to me (ironically similar to the way Muhammad (pbuh) saw Aisha being shown to him by God).  These dreams may seem irrelavent to you but they are yes personal experiences. As far as your 'curious' notion of emotional appeal for Islam, well, we do not have blind faith like Christians do, we still employ intellect and rational in affirming our faith, but we do have things of this nature that may happen to us.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on November 01, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Ever considered that the dream meant that there is only one God and that God is Jesus?  It's curious that God didn't use Mohammad in the dream to convey the message...it was Christ.  I also find it curious this notion of emotional appeal as justification for Islam and Allah.  Maybe you could explain that a bit more.

Ever considered that it was just... you know... a dream? Novel idea, I know, but hey!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2012, 08:39:03 PM


 Much of what the prophets themselves were tested by and what was shown to them was via dreams. Are you not aware of that? To true believing people messages can come in forms of dreams as well. In Islam we call this 'true dreams'. There are devilish dreams, true dreams and dreams that reflect our daily thoughts. I had no doubt in my mind about this dream how it was. I do not usually relate it and in fact kept it to myself for a long time. I've had other relevant dreams since which to you may seem insignificant. I even had a dream about 8 months before finding my wife of my wife being veiled and shown to me (ironically similar to the way Muhammad (pbuh) saw Aisha being shown to him by God).  These dreams may seem irrelavent to you but they are yes personal experiences.

Man, you are really exposing yourself as the true ASSCLOWN that you are, people have Dreams about all types of crazy shit, they have NO BASIS IN REALITY, that is why they are called dreams.  I dreamed that I jumped from a great height and started flying, it has no correlation to reality whatsoever, and if I took it to be real or a premonition and attempted to fulfil the dream, it would lead to my certain death.  This here is the WHOLE problem with the Muslim faith, they take aspects of human life that aren't understood yet and make up all types of stories about them and then claim it as TRUTH.  The moment Muslims shrug their shoulders and say "I simply DON'T KNOW", rather than making up odd mythological tales about their ideas on things, the world will be a safer place. 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Man of Steel on November 02, 2012, 07:38:16 AM
Absolutely not how can someone come to such a stupid baseless conclusion?!?!

I did not know who Muhammad (pbuh) was and I loved Jesus, I loved all the stories of the prophets and to this day do. You do not realize this. I believed in God, I believed in all the prophets and messengers, however I did not believe in the lies of the church and the contradictions and man made lies. Jesus (pbuh_ was the perfect person God could chose for me to convey the message.

If I am in your dream and I tell you "There is only one God" am I saying I am God? If Satan came to you in your dream and said there is only one God (still true), does that mean satan is God?

Again this dream came to me WHILE I was studying the bible and could not accept the lies of the church. Knowing what Jesus was supposedly saying according to the NT, what the OT was saying about God I could not accept the later fabricated trinity. It was indeed meant for me to have this dream. There were a few other dreams I had since which were relevant as well..

It always struck me funny that Sistine Chapel 'illustrates' God as an 'old man' with a beard yet God says:

"You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. Exodus 20:4

Humans are certainly on the earth and the church has indeed perverted God's message


As far as 'emotions' go, this was just another nail in the conffin for me in my search. Much of what the prophets themselves were tested by and what was shown to them was via dreams. Are you not aware of that? To true believing people messages can come in forms of dreams as well. In Islam we call this 'true dreams'. There are devilish dreams, true dreams and dreams that reflect our daily thoughts. I had no doubt in my mind about this dream how it was. I do not usually relate it and in fact kept it to myself for a long time. I've had other relevant dreams since which to you may seem insignificant. I even had a dream about 8 months before finding my wife of my wife being veiled and shown to me (ironically similar to the way Muhammad (pbuh) saw Aisha being shown to him by God).  These dreams may seem irrelavent to you but they are yes personal experiences. As far as your 'curious' notion of emotional appeal for Islam, well, we do not have blind faith like Christians do, we still employ intellect and rational in affirming our faith, but we do have things of this nature that may happen to us.

You don't need to lead with the "stupid baseless conclusion" line.  Maybe you could just speak to me?  

Previously, I would've read that first line and ignored the remainder. Almost did that here, but decided to push on.  You've yet to realize that my posts are not attacks.  I've posted no blatant, anti-Islamic material, I've said nothing derogatory about Muslims, I've said nothing derogatory about Mohammad or Allah.  I've certainly posted observations about Muslims based upon what I've experienced with interactions with Muslims in these threads, but those aren't insults either...they're observations based upon the Islamic representation I've encountered....some of it respectful, some of it not.  

I almost stopped responding to your posts and threads altogether, but I recognize that others are here to outright attack you so you're filtering a lot of information...that's fair.  I've been attacked from every side based upon my beliefs and it's sometimes difficult to filter out those dissenting opinions that are still respectful and truly want to discuss and engage appropriately.

That said, Christianity is completely about monotheism....one God.  

We believe our all-powerful, all-knowing God has one divine essence/nature represented in three persons/heads that served three distinct purposes all of which are  represented and validated in scripture and are fully divine.  

Again, Christianity is about monotheism.  

We believe that God entered his creation as man so that his example will be witnessed by others.  He came in the form of a man in Jesus Christ who was called rabbi, prophet, Messiah, Lord, Savior, Son of God, Son of Man, and God.....all true, all validated in scripture.  Jesus Christ's entry into humanity and his preferred "Son of Man" designation references his humanity per Ezekiel and his divinity per Daniel.  The "corrupt, twisted church" of that time was run by the Sanhedrin that worshipped Mosaic law moreso that God...they had veered off course.  Christ redirected their path, righted Israel's course, demonstrated his divinity, affirmed his divinity and inspired and commanded his church to carry on his message of salvation (the disciples and apostles).  Christ's submission to the Father is an example for the church to follow not validation that he isn't God.  How do we know this?  Christ demonstrated it, Christ affirmed it, Christ's followers died for it and the Holy Spirit validates it.  

My question to you is this:  Is Allah unable to enter into his creation and choose any form that he desires to do so?  


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Man of Steel on November 02, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
Ever considered that it was just... you know... a dream? Novel idea, I know, but hey!

Absolutely, but I'm keeping the conversation within the context of his post.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 02, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
If Christianity is about absolute monotheism then where do you get this whole triune God and trinity?

Jesus never preached it. Paul is the one responsible for it.

Like I said Jesus did not say Hear oh Israel your God is a triune God.

We already went over this a thousand times. Jesus prayed to God, not to himself. Jesus will be at the right hand of God, not to himself (confused?). Jesus doesn't know things that God knows.

Etc... you can only justify or explain these things like my dream as well with your own preconceived conjectures tailored by Pauline teachings.



If you didn't know anything about Paul's teachings, and I had a dream of Jesus telling me there is only ONE God, then would you conclude that it MUST be Jesus? It makes as much as sense as you having a dream of me, or someone else or Jesus or even satan telling you "There is only one God", it would not make you conclude that it must be the person who is saying it that is God.


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on November 06, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
^Check politics and general section americans celebrating violence and satan actually. Showing off how they can kill everything and everyone.

Now back on topic  ;D

(https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1093475782/muslimhulk.png)

Muslim hulk smaaaash :D

(http://trueslant.com/nealungerleider/files/2010/07/superherosinprayer.jpg)

(http://muslimmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/SuperMuslim.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2887825007_b0fb24f908_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on November 06, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
You think we odn't have a sense of humor?  ;D

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qsBZo_79mQM/TK6DybeSOUI/AAAAAAAADBo/izoP7q9FYc8/s1600/superman.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qsBZo_79mQM/TK6ACXmegrI/AAAAAAAADBk/m_BqI62CQV8/s1600/batmuslim.png)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qsBZo_79mQM/TK6AAAfBbGI/AAAAAAAADBg/KwiAM3Lm34k/s1600/supermuslim.png)



Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on November 06, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
This is pretty bad ass:

(http://different-kitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/detective-comics-annual-1.jpg)

http://different-kitchen.com/2011/01/racists-totally-freak-out-over-muslim-batman-of-paris/

Racists Totally Freak Out Over Muslim ‘Batman of Paris’

(http://different-kitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/detective-comics-annual-2.jpg)

(http://different-kitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/detective-comics-annual-3.jpg)

“Another day, another racist freakout over non-white superheroes. But unlike the hilariously dishonest racism we saw when the Council of Conservative Citizens called for a boycott of Marvel’s Thor movie on account of a mythical Norse god’s depiction as a black man, a recent round of conservative attacks on Nightrunner — DC’s Muslim Batman of Paris — are prejudicial in a more insidious way. While the CCC put forth a laughably tenuous justification for their outrage, it was with respect to one specific character in one specific context. The argument against Nightrunner, led by conservative blogger Warner Todd Huston, is based on the bigoted belief that a Muslim superhero is by definition an exercise in deceitful political correctness, and that Muslims are natively evil.

Introduced in this month’s Detective Comics Annual #12 and Batman Annual #28, Nightrunner is a 22-year-old Algerian Muslim who’s lived in Paris his entire life (it seems reasonable to assume he was born in France, but at the very least he was raised there). Born Billai Asseiah, the character is uncommonly adept at the highly YouTubeable gymnastic form known as parkour. That and Asseiah’s sense of justice make him an ideal recruit for Bruce Wayne’s new Batman, Inc. initiative, whereby he franchises Batmen to cities all over the world.

Huston views French Muslims — which is to say, immigrants or those descended from immigrants — as inauthentically French, and, as such, that Batman would choose a Muslim as Paris’ champion is gravely offensive to him and his loathsome ilk….”


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on November 08, 2012, 04:21:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MqeSPF48tg


Title: Re: Malcom X on Islam kills racism
Post by: Radical Plato on November 08, 2012, 07:22:22 PM
ISLAM KILLS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64V09tTIjR4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRyI7x-rpCM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVTK_XffAvk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on November 09, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
If Christianity is about absolute monotheism then where do you get this whole triune God and trinity?

Jesus never preached it. Paul is the one responsible for it.

Like I said Jesus did not say Hear oh Israel your God is a triune God.

We already went over this a thousand times. Jesus prayed to God, not to himself. Jesus will be at the right hand of God, not to himself (confused?). Jesus doesn't know things that God knows.

Etc... you can only justify or explain these things like my dream as well with your own preconceived conjectures tailored by Pauline teachings.



If you didn't know anything about Paul's teachings, and I had a dream of Jesus telling me there is only ONE God, then would you conclude that it MUST be Jesus? It makes as much as sense as you having a dream of me, or someone else or Jesus or even satan telling you "There is only one God", it would not make you conclude that it must be the person who is saying it that is God.

Or we could just explain your dream thusly: "dreams are just dreams, not communications from beyond; they are mostly meaningless and you are a nutjob for believing that they are a phonecall from a deity."


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 09, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwRzmWmNnHI


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on November 09, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
'Islam is about real love, not just lust': The party girl who's embraced a new life as a Muslim convert
 
Her conversion from Ibiza party girl to hijab-wearing Muslim in barely three months may well raise a few eyebrows – and she admits that her friends probably think it’s another one of her fads.
 
But trainee teacher Heather Matthews, 27, says Islam has brought her ‘love and happiness’ that she never found in her old ‘shallow’ lifestyle.
 
Mrs Matthews, a mother of two, converted to the faith four weeks ago – two months after returning from a holiday in Ibiza. And she says that the photographs of the ‘old her’ taken on that trip show all that is wrong with Western images of beauty.
 
She said: ‘I thought I needed to act and dress in a certain way to feel good about myself. I see girls now and think about what image they are portraying to other people, especially men.
 
‘It is about self-respect. If you dress and act in a certain way, rightly or wrongly, you’ll be treated in a certain way.
 
‘Islam has taught me about real love, not false passion and lust. I can even see the logic in arranged marriage.’
 
A study by multi-faith group Faith Matters found the number of Muslim converts in Britain has now passed 100,000, doubling in ten years.
 
The report estimated nearly two-thirds of the new converts were women, with an average age of 27 – like Mrs Matthews.
 
Her path to conversion began when she tried to convince her ex-husband Jerrome, himself a Muslim convert, that the religion was wrong. She was ‘very suspicious’ of the faith, and began reading up on it to support her arguments.
 
Although they separated last year, she continued to learn about Islam – and identified with it more and more. Then, four weeks ago, she completed the ‘revert’ process. She said: ‘I underwent the ‘Shahadah’ ceremony of conversion to Islam by repeating a declaration of faith in front of the Imam at my local multi-faith centre.
 
‘I had several Muslim sisters with me and they bought me a hijab and Islamic books to celebrate. It was wonderful.’

But she admits that her friends have been shocked at her conversion to a religion which is often seen as being oppressive towards women.
 
‘People are probably thinking “Oh, it is just another one of Heather’s fads”. It isn’t. It is what I’ve been searching for during the times I’ve been filling my life with instant gratification,’ she said.
 
Mrs Matthews, from Preston, has also had a cautious reaction from her family. But it is the response from passers-by that surprised her the most – especially the effect of her headscarf.
 
‘No men try to chat me up. It is an idiot repellent. When I’m wearing the headscarf I can smile at people without them thinking it is a sexual advance,’ she said.
 
‘I definitely agree with Islam’s principles of not having sex with someone you’re not married to and to save your beauty for your husband. So I think my next partner would need to be a practising Muslim to understand.
 
‘It is easy for me to say this now, with hindsight, having made the mistakes, but I think I would have been better off with partners who my parents thought were suitable, learning to love them through friendship first.’ Mrs Matthews has given up alcohol, sticks to a halal diet and plans to fast during Ramadan. She has an English-language Koran which she reads daily, and wants to learn Arabic so that she can recite prayers five times a day.
 
But she will not be forcing Islam on to her daughters – Ellah, five, and two-year-old Halle – from her marriage to Jerrome.
 
‘People think I must be oppressed but I’m a strong, confident and free woman,’ she said. ‘I know I’m one of the most unlikely people to revert to Islam.
 
‘It astounds me. But I’ve done it for love and happiness and it has completely changed my life.’
 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on November 09, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
blah blah blah
‘People think I must be oppressed but I’m a strong, confident and free woman,’ she said. ‘I know I’m one of the most unlikely people to revert to Islam.
blah blah blah

re·vert
vb [rɪˈvɜːt] (intr; foll by to)
1. to go back to a former practice, condition or belief
2. to take up again or come back to a former topic
3. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Biology) Biology (of individuals, organs, etc.) to return to a more primitive, earlier, or simpler condition or type



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 09, 2012, 03:55:08 PM
lol funny guy :)

In Islam we believe everyone is born pure and in a state of Islam, submission to God, however it is our parents and subsequent social environment that corrupts us and makes us out to be something else. Hence you'll see those that embrace Islam saying we have reverted back to Islam :) Of course it'll confuse a non-muslim.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 09, 2012, 07:31:53 PM
Why is a Muslims body odour so rancid? Is it because they don't shower regularly, or because they wear impractical clothing for the weather conditions, or is it a combination of these?  Or do Muslims by Nature just smell bad as a result of their regular evil thoughts about killing non-muslims?  One thing is for certain, Muslims Stink!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on November 09, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
lol funny guy :)

Glad to see you at least have a sense of humor! ;D


In Islam we believe everyone is born pure and in a state of Islam, submission to God, however it is our parents and subsequent social environment that corrupts us and makes us out to be something else. Hence you'll see those that embrace Islam saying we have reverted back to Islam :) Of course it'll confuse a non-muslim.

Interesting, I did not know that; you learn something new every day. It's an explanation - perhaps even a plausible one - but ultimately, from where I stand, it reeks of "hand-waving".


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on November 09, 2012, 09:31:57 PM
Why is a Muslims body odour so rancid? Is it because they don't shower regularly, or because they wear impractical clothing for the weather conditions, or is it a combination of these?  Or do Muslims by Nature just smell bad as a result of their regular evil thoughts about killing non-muslims?  One thing is for certain, Muslims Stink!

running out of antimuslim pics are we?


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 09, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
(http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/detnewsarabcartoon.jpg)

(http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/muhammedcartoon1.jpg)

(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/ALLPOLITICS/analysis/toons/2004/04/27/lang/cnnlangtoon.jpg)

(http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/islamofascistdebating.gif)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on November 10, 2012, 04:08:25 AM
(http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/detnewsarabcartoon.jpg)

(http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/muhammedcartoon1.jpg)

(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/ALLPOLITICS/analysis/toons/2004/04/27/lang/cnnlangtoon.jpg)

(http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/islamofascistdebating.gif)

thank you.

had some non-muslims friends over for dinner who started laughing at you.

They were actually shocked people like you existed in australia.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 04:50:48 AM
Australians HATE ISLAM and their sick perverted ideology, regardless of the spin from the politicians, you can rest assure that Muslims are despised by Aussies just as much as Muslims despise non-muslims.  Aussies are hard to pull the wool over their eyes, Muslims love to practice their sociopathy and deceit on naive cultures, it won't work in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvgbbE6hvA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1evjaYkdnQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkq68cKloJ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohVSUMIIFus


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 09:08:27 AM
^lol oh gay-kool we're blushing  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0wsZygIX4


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 10:10:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWheLoqBQFQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8I16W1JBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcxzIE4xxrI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo6rj236PAU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CxdTeenKIc

E-kul is a mental psychopath about to explode, authorities should be warned  ;D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 02:59:28 PM
^lol oh gay-kool we're blushing  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0wsZygIX4
How disturbing was that, forcing Islam on some poor demented old man who has no idea what is going on.  Muslims are so desperate for converts, they are harassing the old people in Nursing Homes now!  oh, Brother!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 03:04:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWheLoqBQFQ


I wonder how long those women lasted in the religion of WAR and Violence?  I guarantee those women left the religion, Islam and Western women don't mix.   Muslims just use naive and gullible women like that as a tool to counter negative media they receive, they induct token Muslims to prove a point.  They aren't fooling anybody!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
How disturbing was that, forcing Islam on some poor demented old man who has no idea what is going on.  Muslims are so desperate for converts, they are harassing the old people in Nursing Homes now!  oh, Brother!

You have quite the imagination :) I guess you create a fantasy world to detract from your own miserable life's reality


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
I wonder how long those women lasted in the religion of WAR and Violence?  I guarantee those women left the religion, Islam and Western women don't mix.   Muslims just use naive and gullible women like that as a tool to counter negative media they receive, they induct token Muslims to prove a point.  They aren't fooling anybody!

lol hilarious, your hatred from a scale of 10 is way above as 50 :)

You still cant' seem to face reality that the majority of converts to Islam are western educated women. I know it sets your body on fire and fuels your anger but that's the reality you have to accept.

You are one sad fella


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 04:04:05 PM
lol hilarious, your hatred from a scale of 10 is way above as 50 :)

You still cant' seem to face reality that the majority of converts to Islam are western educated women. I know it sets your body on fire and fuels your anger but that's the reality you have to accept.

You are one sad fella
lol, a man whose very religion is HATRED accuses other of being HATEFUL.  6 Australian naive gullible women convert to Islam and all of a sudden the majority of converts to Islam are western educated women.  Keep dreaming a_ahmed, I have lived here for 40 years and you think you can tell me what goes on here.  Islam is hated by Aussies, you can continue your fantasy of Aussie women being overwhelmed by the religion of HATE, but the few that do join are naive gullible women, who only join because they think Islam is unfairly demonised (they join because they see it as a good cause to support, do-gooders are always looking for a cause to support), once they learn the truth.  They leave, it's as simple as that!  And they feel like complete and utter fools afterwards for not investigating what it was they were joining!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
lol the irony of everything you utter -- hate. :D Funny guy. I think you'll die alone, tortured by your childhood abuse and a heart attack from constant anger. You suck at life bro.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 09:10:17 PM
lol the irony of everything you utter -- hate. :D Funny guy. I think you'll die alone, tortured by your childhood abuse and a heart attack from constant anger. You suck at life bro.
HA HA Angry Muslim projects his anger onto everyone else.  Hating an evil ideology doesn't make somebody angry, it is normal to be averse to such things.  It is evil to embrace them, and only an angry bitter individual would do such a thing.  I am sad for you that you are unable to see yourself and the sad path you have chosen for yourself.  Good people such as myself will continue trying to guide you from the dark side into the light, the rest of the world has given up on Islam and now are just finalising plans to nuke them off the face of the Earth, but it is not too late for you, you don't have to be a victim to Islam for the rest of your life.  I will continue to help guide you, and when you are ready i will help lift you from the miserable existence you have created for yourself and others.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 10, 2012, 09:49:16 PM
lol mental nut case on the loose, I guess you may be a distant relative to 333386 lmao


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on November 10, 2012, 10:02:59 PM
HA HA Angry Muslim projects his anger onto everyone else.  Hating an evil ideology doesn't make somebody angry, it is normal to be averse to such things.  It is evil to embrace them, and only an angry bitter individual would do such a thing.  I am sad for you that you are unable to see yourself and the sad path you have chosen for yourself.  Good people such as myself will continue trying to guide you from the dark side into the light, the rest of the world has given up on Islam and now are just finalising plans to nuke them off the face of the Earth, but it is not too late for you, you don't have to be a victim to Islam for the rest of your life.  I will continue to help guide you, and when you are ready i will help lift you from the miserable existence you have created for yourself and others.

I will never follow your path or guidance.

Id rather put a bullet in me then be like a fool like you.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 10:59:28 PM


Id rather put a bullet in me
Don't let Allah or I stop you!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 10, 2012, 11:10:57 PM
I will never follow your path or guidance.
This is the problem with Muslims, they think they know it all, and refuse to accept their are others who may be able to offer them something, they run completely on EGO, they Ignore others and say they will behave and do as they want because Man has no rule over him, he claims to be ruled by a non verifiable Divine being.  This is complete nonsense, it is just an excuse to go completely wild on free will.  If their actually was a God, he would be deeply ashamed by Muslims and their behaviour!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: avxo on November 11, 2012, 12:43:38 AM
I will never follow your path or guidance.

Id rather put a bullet in me then be like a fool like you.

But you happily follow the "guidance" of a book supposedly dictated by a deity and transcribed by merchan/shepard... ::)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 12, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/20212_10151195841567740_2012439138_n.jpg)


Title: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 13, 2012, 05:05:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 13, 2012, 05:51:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNTs30ZRvQ


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: a_ahmed on November 13, 2012, 09:32:24 AM
I thought you hated muslim women lmao


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Stefano on November 13, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
You have quite the imagination :) I guess you create a fantasy world to detract from your own miserable life's reality

Sounds more like the stuff you engage in achmutt.


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 13, 2012, 07:17:57 PM
I thought you hated muslim women lmao
No you have me confused for a Muslim Man!


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: a_ahmed on November 14, 2012, 01:27:01 PM
No you have me confused for a Muslim Man!

No I certainly have not for a single second confused you for a muslim man, as you hate muslim men and women, islam, Muhammad (pbuh), etc... and talk like filth and are nothing but an accursed impoverished liar who had an accursed youth, abused and demented and continues to be as such into his old age.

Muhammad (pbuh) said the best of believing men are those best to women. It is a fundamental principle in islam that women should be treated with respect. The fact that some men be they muslim or non muslim do not respect women, abuse women, etc... has nothing to do with Islam but lack of Islam.

You're a staunch arrogant loser and that is your own doing.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 14, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
Look Muslims laugh and smile who woulda thought  ::)

 :-*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0hcT18SpX8


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 14, 2012, 05:26:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnGLx3JGrQc

She looks a lot like my mother actually :)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 14, 2012, 05:27:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SZ8H-Rh_w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LygM1NbLINY


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 14, 2012, 09:38:33 PM
Show me videos where other religions have this amount of hatred towards women in the modern world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNTs30ZRvQ


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: andreisdaman on November 14, 2012, 10:00:41 PM
Show me videos where other religions have this amount of hatred towards women in the modern world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNTs30ZRvQ

eye-opening


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 14, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
eye-opening
This is just the tip of the iceberg, it is this type of thing that the mad Muslims are desperate that you don't see, they are trying to sell you moderate Islam while behind the scenes their real goal is to Islamise the world and have Sharia law everywhere.  Islam is Pure Evil and the Western World needs to learn about it before it is too late.


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: stingray on November 15, 2012, 03:06:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc

So whats the big deal?

It was just a doco of muslims having different views and difference of opinions.

Since the overthrow of the president mubarak in egypt, muslim women are taking to the streets wanting shariah law.

Women are starting to wear the hijab in schools, on television etc.


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Radical Plato on November 15, 2012, 05:16:38 AM
muslim women are taking to the streets wanting shariah law.

Women are starting to wear the hijab in schools, on television etc.
And what is the punishment for women against Sharia Law?  Muslims are such fools, they think because they have instilled fear in their women that when women choose what the men want they are doing it from free will.  They do it because they are afraid for their health and safety.  It's called "DURESS"

The following women wont be lining up any time soon to support Sharia law!

Rahim Alfetlawi Murders Step-Daughter Jessica Mokdad for Not Following Islam
(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef01676148adff970b-600wi)

Februrary 2011: Honor killing of Täter Harun in Germany. "By about 22 clock he confessed to the horrific bloodbath" with more than 100 stab wounds in the 21 year mother-to-be. The child died as well.

(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef014e5f6c90ad970c-600wi)

November 2, 'o9: Noor Almaleki is Dead Run over by her Muslim father for being too "westernized", she lingered for days.

(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0120a6a1dc49970c-500wi)

"'I would do it again 100 times,"  said Mohammad Shafia, who murdered his three daughters and his secret first wife in a mass honour killing.

(http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0153931b063c970b-600wi)

Religion of Peace!
More women who dont support Sharia here --> http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/honor-killing-islams-gruesome-gallery.html (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/honor-killing-islams-gruesome-gallery.html)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on November 15, 2012, 05:58:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnI66WiQOQI



Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: andreisdaman on November 15, 2012, 07:05:23 AM
This is just the tip of the iceberg, it is this type of thing that the mad Muslims are desperate that you don't see, they are trying to sell you moderate Islam while behind the scenes their real goal is to Islamise the world and have Sharia law everywhere.  Islam is Pure Evil and the Western World needs to learn about it before it is too late.

okay....I'm sorta buying into what you're saying......but we can't judge just by some radicals....


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: a_ahmed on November 15, 2012, 08:49:02 AM
See the only problem is there is no honor killing in islam.

And Arab atheists, christians. Nigerian christians. Hindu Indians all perform honor killings.

Honor killing is law in the bible in several passages, not in the qur'an.

Honor killings originate even in Rome, in ancient assyria, etc...


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: stingray on November 15, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
Honor kiilings is never endorsed in islam, was never taught or preached or performed by Prophet Mohamed. Its a self made practice which came hundreds of years after the prophet died.

Ekul always claims that aussies hate muslims.You should see what his fellow catholic aussies do to little children.There going to start a royal commission on the cover up by the church and police on the mass rape of kids in there care.

Do we then go around and say jesus promoted child rape?Of course not, that will be absurb.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: garebear on November 16, 2012, 03:58:25 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 16, 2012, 08:55:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VGjob3lg_U


Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: Stefano on November 17, 2012, 09:55:12 PM
Orly?

So why dont these islam do righters step in and correct their misbegotten flock. When catholic church rapes occured plenty of christians demanded that these pedos be broight to justice and held the church accountable for hiding them. Like child rapes doesnt happen in mosques or kovils or whatever. Its everywhere in every religion. Then again muhahahamed was a pedo so child rape is probably acceptable in islam. ;D

Whenever muslims do something wrong its swept under the rug by other muslims. No condemnation just turn a blind eye.



Title: Re: MUSLIM WOMAN TELLS THE TRUTH!
Post by: andreisdaman on November 17, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
Orly?

So why dont these islam do righters step in and correct their misbegotten flock. When catholic church rapes occured plenty of christians demanded that these pedos be broight to justice and held the church accountable for hiding them. Like child rapes doesnt happen in mosques or kovils or whatever. Its everywhere in every religion. Then again muhahahamed was a pedo so child rape is probably acceptable in islam. ;D

Whenever muslims do something wrong its swept under the rug by other muslims. No condemnation just turn a blind eye.



agreed


Title: Re: Haters gonna hate
Post by: a_ahmed on November 20, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
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Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on November 30, 2012, 10:31:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWxI704RNuI


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on November 30, 2012, 07:31:51 PM
New Muslim converted her style too
 
Halifax native, who found her faith after reading the Qur’an three years ago, wears the hijab and has a shop that offers fashions for other women in Islam


A life-altering decision about faith has propelled Amanda Redmond into the Muslim fashion business.
 
The Halifax native, 23, was stuck overnight in a New York airport nearly three years ago when the soft light of the airport mosque called her in.
 
It was 3 a.m. and sleep was unlikely, so she picked up the Qur’an and began to read. She was taken aback when the words of the ancient text resonated and she found herself nodding in agreement.
 
“The values it teaches and what’s written in the Qur’an all make sense to me,” Redmond said in a recent interview.
 
“I’ve always had a fleeting interest, and I wasn’t any religion to start with, so the more I learned about Islam, the more it made sense to me.”
 
With a new outlook on what it means to have faith and her interest in Islam growing, she continued to absorb what she could from the culture that was undeniably foreign from her upbringing in suburban Halifax.
 
In time, it became clear to Redmond she needed to officially convert to Islam and become a Canadian revert Muslimah. She was ready to tuck her hair under a hijab, cover up her arms and live a modest life based on her new-found faith.
 
“When you feel something is right and you’re not doing it, you think about it all of the time.
 
I knew I wanted to do it and it was nagging and nagging, and I didn’t know why I wasn’t wearing the hijab and fully converting to Islam. After I made the change, that was the kind of freedom I got.”
 
Broadly, in Islam, hijab is the principle of modesty, which itself is open to personal interpretation. A Muslim woman may choose to only expose their eyes, others cover their entire body except their face and hands and others don’t observe any special dress rules.
 
Not every woman who converts to Islam immediately wears the hijab, but within a few months, Redmond was wearing her hijab to school — she is a Mount Saint Vincent University business student — to work, and out with her friends.
 
“I dabbled for a couple of months, and then one day it was just me. It felt right. But then I found it really difficult to find the appropriate clothing I felt comfortable with, on a modest guideline.”
 
Redmond’s definition of modesty means her hair and arms are covered, but her hands and face are bare, and bright colours and jeans are OK as long as they are paired with a long, loose-fitting top. With a new personal dress code to live up to, it soon became clear to the young business student that there was a gaping hole in the retail landscape.
 
There are more than 4,000 Muslims living in Nova Scotia, and she found that the female population is reliant on online shopping and parcels from friends. But it didn’t add up; the cost of shipping would more than double the price of many garments, and items would often arrive looking little like they did online.
 
The aspiring entrepreneur knew she could offer a more affordable solution.
 
After a little research, she began making bulk orders from the Middle East and Asia. She settled on a business name — Al-Qamar or The Moon, named after the 54th sura of the Qur’an — set up a Facebook profile and began networking.
 
“It really baffled me that there was nowhere else in all of Atlantic Canada to buy this stuff.
 
“I wanted these things, all of my friends bought these things and there are other women here who are asking for these things, so why aren’t they here? I guess I’ll do it.”
 
Al-Qamar officially launched its online store in September and has now garnered more than 1,200 Facebook fans and a growing reputation as a go-to shop for Muslim women.
 
The shop offers an assortment of contemporary clothing and accessories, from brightly coloured, ruffled and bejewelled hijabs, sparkling hijab pins to abaya (sleeved dresses), cotton undercaps, lace underscarves and arm sleeves.
 
Operating in a tight niche market, Redmond said it is important that her products stay affordable and that she doesn’t saturate the market with duplicates.
 
“I’m focused on bringing in 10 or so of each item. There’s a small pool of women here, and if everyone has the same thing, it’s pretty obvious. I want to stay focused on contemporary, modest clothing for Muslim women.”
 
To date, business continues to gather speed and Al-Qamar has shipped to buyers across Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and even Sri Lanka.
 
And although she continues to juggle school, work and the demands of her fledgling online business, Redmond is focused on her next goals — growing the network of Muslim women in the region and opening up a brick-and-mortar retail shop.
 
“It will take time, but I’m patient. People who know me know I don’t just jump into something without doing my homework.”
 
The Al-Qamar shop can be found online at alqamar.ca and on Facebook.
 


Title: How the Islamic Caliphate was destroyed: a historical perspective
Post by: a_ahmed on December 06, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--op2bDLp_Q


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 06, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUM12f8JX6c

http://www.knowmuhammad.co.uk/


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: haider on December 06, 2012, 05:22:10 PM
lmao, i thought for sure this was gonna be another islamophobic thread.

I reccomend the following link because it is totally neutral:
http://humanjourney.us/Mohammad.html (http://humanjourney.us/Mohammad.html)

I will check out your vid too  :)


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: Thick Nick on December 07, 2012, 03:19:54 AM
We non Muslims already know him. We saw Innocence of Muslims!!! Seems the only people who don't know he was a pedo, pig fucker, murderer IS Muslims. Wait NM, they know too. They just don't give a shit.


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2012, 04:24:06 AM
We non Muslims already know him. We saw Innocence of Muslims!!! Seems the only people who don't know he was a pedo, pig fucker, murderer IS Muslims. Wait NM, they know too. They just don't give a shit.
HA HA - Muslims know it and actually like that side of Muhammad, it means they get to fulfil their sick perverted fantasies by marrying and raping pre pubescent girls.


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: stingray on December 12, 2012, 04:54:02 AM
HA HA - Muslims know it and actually like that side of Muhammad, it means they get to fulfil their sick perverted fantasies by marrying and raping pre pubescent girls.

I've missed you Ekul.i guess you didn't grow any brain cells while you were gone.


Title: A tale of Civilisations
Post by: a_ahmed on December 12, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2v4jC_i2qU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pqc4gIEuug


Title: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 16, 2012, 08:33:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPxCWCmMurE


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: Stefano on December 16, 2012, 05:51:43 PM
I've missed you Ekul.i guess you didn't grow any brain cells while you were gone.

You sem to lack far more braincells. They were probably washed out with the poisonous lies that treasonous pedophile prophet. Not suprising that you get so upset whenever someone puts you in your place.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 16, 2012, 05:58:05 PM
Science is not the only answer but its a start. Its better than listening to to a madman who came out of a cave claiming he had all the answers based on his "conversation" with god.


Title: A short reminder clip
Post by: a_ahmed on December 16, 2012, 06:39:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z88Tum0EqkI


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: godeep on December 16, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
Definitively so. Science is the ONLY answer. The rest are ramblings of mythology by primitive men. 



Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 16, 2012, 08:15:31 PM
Science is a process and not a truth in and of itself.  Science is used to find explanations.  You can't apply a religous model to define science. 


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Radical Plato on December 17, 2012, 01:12:39 AM
YES! Science is our only HOPE! WHY?> Because it works!

It is FAITH in Science that sees people get on a plane and TRUST that it will FLY  The science behind FLIGHT is based an immutable TRUTHS, LAWS which can be verified over and over and over again.  FAITH should always be backed up by verifiable TRUTH, not something that one just blindly follows because they HOPE for future proof or others have told them too.  To eliminate RELIGION and False beliefs we need to stop Religious Nuts forcing their indoctrination on Children, if you can prevent children being contaminated by the God Botherers from a young age, they may have a chance of growing up to be independent critically thinking adults.  But the Religious perverts can't keep away from the children, they just can't help themselves.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: garebear on December 17, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPxCWCmMurE
Do you think you'll grow up before you die?


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: stingray on December 17, 2012, 03:26:48 AM
You sem to lack far more braincells. They were probably washed out with the poisonous lies that treasonous pedophile prophet. Not suprising that you get so upset whenever someone puts you in your place.

was i talking to you?

E-kul can defend himself


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: bigbobs on December 17, 2012, 11:41:09 AM

It is FAITH in Science that sees people get on a plane and TRUST that it will FLY  The science behind FLIGHT is based an immutable TRUTHS, LAWS which can be verified over and over and over again.  

But who created the laws that allow us to fly?

There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.

Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Archer77 on December 17, 2012, 11:47:08 AM
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?


Believing solely in science is also blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what the universe and us.

It's called humility.  And no one believes in science, at least not in the way a person believe in religion.  Apples and oranges.  Science is a methodology not a religion. Where religion requires absolute obedience and faith, science demands skepticism and questioning.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 17, 2012, 12:28:21 PM
Science is merely an experimental tool as developed by Muslim Arabs. Greek 'scientists' based their ideas on pure observation and no experimentation. Muslims introduced the actual scientific method before the Europeans and did experimentation to confirm findings and hypothesis.

That being said. Science is a religion for atheists, as that's all you rely on and your own whims and desires.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 17, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?

There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.

Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.


Actually beleiving in religion is blind faith due to lack of evidence. Ni attrempt is made to find supporting evidence instead lets close our eyes and years and accept stories told by men centuries ago. Science at least tests those theories and rejects what doesnt work. Science is forever evolving and learning. Religion is stuck at books compiled centuries ago.

Just becuase science cant explain everything doesnt mean you can fill those gaps with religion. Ancient science couldnt explain earthquakes or tides etc. Now there are rational explanations. Without the advancement of science there would be no discoveries or explorations. People like you are stuck in primitive aged thinking. Hey you beleive a man who sat in a cave and claimed god spoke to him. Nuff said.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 17, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Science is a process and not a truth in and of itself.  Science is used to find explanations.  You can't apply a religous model to define science. 

Yes.

Science is a means to an end not the end itself as religion claims to be


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: Stefano on December 17, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
was i talking to you?

E-kul can defend himself

Well im talking to you. Ignorant fools like you need a few knocks of common sense upside your head.

Besides dont you step in to answer questions directed to achmutt? So shut the fuck up unless you have something intelligent to say.


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: stingray on December 17, 2012, 06:18:47 PM
Well im talking to you. Ignorant fools like you need a few knocks of common sense upside your head.

Besides dont you step in to answer questions directed to achmutt? So shut the fuck up unless you have something intelligent to say.

No need to cry.

Go get yourself a milk bottle


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: Stefano on December 17, 2012, 06:51:44 PM
No need to cry.

Go get yourself a milk bottle

So i can smash it over your head? Yeah i know you dont have any brain cells that could get damaged as a result.

Mindless Koran drone. :-X


Title: The blessed Mary (peace be upon her) the mother of Jesus
Post by: a_ahmed on December 17, 2012, 09:00:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48UPtECW6Hs

The Blessed Saint Mary (Maryam al-Muqaddasa) is a sensational film of the life of Saint Mary, the Virgin mother of Jesus, based on classical Islamic texts. The film begins with the birth of Mary and ends with the birth of Jesus, skilfully recreating the major events which Mary went through as well as that of Prophet Zachariah, Mary's guardian and a righteous Prophet of God.

This two hour presentation is a glorious illustration and depiction of the lofty station held by Mary in Islam, as well as the great stature of Prophet Zacharias.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: pedro01 on December 18, 2012, 06:22:48 AM
Science moves forward as we learn more.

Religion only looks backwards.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Man of Steel on December 18, 2012, 07:06:54 AM
Is science the only answer for what specifically?  I haven't had an opportunity to watch the video.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: pedro01 on December 18, 2012, 07:10:50 AM
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?

There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.

Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.

Why would it take a supreme being to allow us to fly?

We simply applied our brains to what we had to work with. Just like other discoveries man has made. God no more gave us the ability to fly than he gave us the ability to invent the wheel. It's a progression of knowledge that allowed that.


Title: Re: The blessed Mary (peace be upon her) the mother of Jesus
Post by: Man of Steel on December 18, 2012, 07:12:04 AM
Why is Mary given such elevated status in Islam?  Certainly she had a very unique, divine purpose in her life and I can completely understand that station being respected and acknowledged but is she also celebrated?  Worshipped?  Deified?   Catholics somewhat deify and worship Mary.  Never understood that.

Why isn't Joseph given elevated status in Islam?  He was the divinely appointed father of Jesus, but somehow his role is diminished and often not acknowledged.  Why is that?  Yes, his mention in scripture is brief, but he was a divinely-appointed, earthly parent of Jesus Christ.

This is just for my education mind you.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Man of Steel on December 18, 2012, 07:57:48 AM
YES! Science is our only HOPE! WHY?> Because it works!

It is FAITH in Science that sees people get on a plane and TRUST that it will FLY  The science behind FLIGHT is based an immutable TRUTHS, LAWS which can be verified over and over and over again.  FAITH should always be backed up by verifiable TRUTH, not something that one just blindly follows because they HOPE for future proof or others have told them too.  To eliminate RELIGION and False beliefs we need to stop Religious Nuts forcing their indoctrination on Children, if you can prevent children being contaminated by the God Botherers from a young age, they may have a chance of growing up to be independent critically thinking adults.  But the Religious perverts can't keep away from the children, they just can't help themselves.

I understand what you're suggesting, but that simply is not what faith is about (at least from a Christian perspective); although, our faith can and is verified through the interaction of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Now, our Muslim brothers don't agree with this notion, but I set aside those competing doctrines for the sake of my post.  

I love the idea of scientific discovery, but I don't perceive those discoveries as steps toward eliminating God....I see it as man drawing closer to God by discovering facets of his creation and the secrets therein...even if it is piecemeal on our part.  Unfortunately the majority of this world doesn't agree with that notion.

So, if we can simply eliminate the choice of religion for children we give them them the honest ability to choose a lifestyle for themselves as they mature?  So, the idea there is the notion of a "blank canvas" for children (leading to critical thinking) and that appropriate "blank canvas" is one that completely excludes religion, but includes everything else as acceptable influences?  Further suggesting that if religion isn't introduced to them as children they will mature into critically thinking adults and obviously recognize the folly of religion and deny it completely like other atheists and agnostics?  So, if we intercede on behalf of children and eliminate a life option early on we give them the ability to make an honest, fully-informed choice for themselves later on? 




Title: Re: The blessed Mary (peace be upon her) the mother of Jesus
Post by: a_ahmed on December 18, 2012, 09:51:16 AM
We do not worship anyone but God. I thought you already understood this from our debates and discussions. However we hold all the prophets and messengers and all the blessed people of God in high esteem. More so than you might, as we see them as the role models to follow, hence why we Muslims are sometimes labeled 'backward' because our goal is to emulate the prophet of GOd (peace be upon him). Mary and Jesus (peace be upon him) are held in high esteem in Islam, hence there is a whole chapter named Mary (pbuh). Mary (pbuh) is a woman chosen out of all and above all womenkind and is the most blessed women.

The difference is we do not worship them. You in particular may not worship Mary (pbuh), but Catholics do and I certainly know that as I went to catholic school. In fact just in my city here we have a church called "Mary the mother of God" church which indeed is blasphemous.

We do not believe in the 'appointed' father of Jesus in the bible. The Joseph we believe in isYusuf (peace be upon him) the son of Jacob/Israel (peace be upon him).


Title: Time Utilization (Excellent Islamic lecture)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 18, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUmEHlk7YOI

The beginning is a du'a (supplication) in Arabic, but afterwards the speaker speaks in English.

Very powerful lecture and I invite the non-Muslims to watch it too.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 18, 2012, 10:52:35 AM
Is science the only answer for what specifically?  I haven't had an opportunity to watch the video.

As in science is not the only answer. Science is merely a tool to understand the best of what we have discovered in the material sense. Science is definitely not always the answer as it can be riddled with wrong answers. After all people once thought the earth was flat and the center of the universe (for example).


Title: Re: The blessed Mary (peace be upon her) the mother of Jesus
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 18, 2012, 11:16:48 AM
theres even a chapter named after Mary in the Quran.


Title: Re: The blessed Mary (peace be upon her) the mother of Jesus
Post by: Man of Steel on December 18, 2012, 11:22:14 AM
We do not worship anyone but God. I thought you already understood this from our debates and discussions. However we hold all the prophets and messengers and all the blessed people of God in high esteem. More so than you might, as we see them as the role models to follow, hence why we Muslims are sometimes labeled 'backward' because our goal is to emulate the prophet of GOd (peace be upon him). Mary and Jesus (peace be upon him) are held in high esteem in Islam, hence there is a whole chapter named Mary (pbuh). Mary (pbuh) is a woman chosen out of all and above all womenkind and is the most blessed women.

The difference is we do not worship them. You in particular may not worship Mary (pbuh), but Catholics do and I certainly know that as I went to catholic school. In fact just in my city here we have a church called "Mary the mother of God" church which indeed is blasphemous.

We do not believe in the 'appointed' father of Jesus in the bible. The Joseph we believe in isYusuf (peace be upon him) the son of Jacob/Israel (peace be upon him).

Good answer....I appreciate it!


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 18, 2012, 05:29:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix9yd40m1Q


Title: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 18, 2012, 08:52:04 PM
I don't really care too much about all the text, but it illustrates a lot of the imagery of the all seeing eye, satanic themes, symbols, etc....

Things that we as Muslims recognize even as symbols of the anti-christ.

As Muhammad (pbuh) said, God is not one eyed, beware of the false anti christ, massih ad-dajjal (the false messiah)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_genIMiIg

As Jesus (pbuh) will return and destroy the cross (meaning the false Christianity).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWd-E1kyTNg


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
Beware of satan and his prphet muhahamed. Look at all the pagan rituals muslims perform. The call to prayer is really satans instructions spreading the words of hate and fear.

Join forces with god against the unholy allah and his cabal.




Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 08:59:27 PM
 200,000 MUSLIMS CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY
Sheiks, imams, Islamic leaders, ordinary devotees defy death, ostracism

WASHINGTON – It’s not easy to leave Islam in a Muslim country.

It can put one’s freedom and very life at risk.

But thousands are doing it, according to a new book by Jerry Trousdale, director of international ministries for City Team International. In fact, he writes in “Miraculous Movements: How Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims Are Falling in Love With Jesus,” some 200,000 Muslims have converted to Christianity in just the last six years. And they include sheiks, imams, Muslim leaders and ordinary devotees of the faith.

“There is tremendous dissatisfaction and discouragement among the very people who know the Quran the best and who are themselves desperate for assurance in their own religion,” says Trousdale. Sounds like achmutt

City Team has locations in California, Pennsylvania and Oregon and partnerships in 42 countries around the world. Since 1998, the organization has cared for people around the world by training, equipping, mentoring and coaching local leaders to care for those in need in their communities. This includes training 600,000 new Christians who have started over 18,000 new churches in the past seven years.

“We’re starting a whole new thinking about the nature of church,” says Trousdale. “The model of the church that is emerging is so very different from traditional church. Disciple-making movements are reaching entire nations around the world. It’s incredibly exciting to be a part of seeing people’s lives radically changed by the gospel.”

He believes what has been learned from this experience can make anyone more effective at sharing the gospel – wherever they are.


“This book, these people, and the miraculous stories are for real!” exclaims Chip Ingram, senior pastor of Ventura Christian Church. “There is a paradigm shifting movement of God that anyone and everyone committed to making disciples must read and apply.”

Trousdale says he has seen entire mosques converting to Christianity. He tells of two disciple-makers who refused to give up on one town that had martyred five Christians.

Within seven years, there were seven churches in the town.

The book also documents accounts of Muslims discovering Jesus in dreams and visions.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on December 18, 2012, 09:08:12 PM
200,000 MUSLIMS CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY
Sheiks, imams, Islamic leaders, ordinary devotees defy death, ostracism

WASHINGTON – It’s not easy to leave Islam in a Muslim country.

It can put one’s freedom and very life at risk.

But thousands are doing it, according to a new book by Jerry Trousdale, director of international ministries for City Team International. In fact, he writes in “Miraculous Movements: How Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims Are Falling in Love With Jesus,” some 200,000 Muslims have converted to Christianity in just the last six years. And they include sheiks, imams, Muslim leaders and ordinary devotees of the faith.

“There is tremendous dissatisfaction and discouragement among the very people who know the Quran the best and who are themselves desperate for assurance in their own religion,” says Trousdale. Sounds like achmutt

City Team has locations in California, Pennsylvania and Oregon and partnerships in 42 countries around the world. Since 1998, the organization has cared for people around the world by training, equipping, mentoring and coaching local leaders to care for those in need in their communities. This includes training 600,000 new Christians who have started over 18,000 new churches in the past seven years.

“We’re starting a whole new thinking about the nature of church,” says Trousdale. “The model of the church that is emerging is so very different from traditional church. Disciple-making movements are reaching entire nations around the world. It’s incredibly exciting to be a part of seeing people’s lives radically changed by the gospel.”

He believes what has been learned from this experience can make anyone more effective at sharing the gospel – wherever they are.


“This book, these people, and the miraculous stories are for real!” exclaims Chip Ingram, senior pastor of Ventura Christian Church. “There is a paradigm shifting movement of God that anyone and everyone committed to making disciples must read and apply.”

Trousdale says he has seen entire mosques converting to Christianity. He tells of two disciple-makers who refused to give up on one town that had martyred five Christians.

Within seven years, there were seven churches in the town.

The book also documents accounts of Muslims discovering Jesus in dreams and visions.


Even if i beleive these conversions, they are probably the muslims who are the poorest in the world, most likely africa, where they got no food/shelter/clothing etc, and some missionary comes to them offering food and shelter to people who will change for anything cause they are so desperate.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 09:14:06 PM
Even if i beleive these conversions, they are probably the muslims who are the poorest in the world, most likely africa, where they got no food/shelter/clothing etc, and some missionary comes to them offering food and shelter to people who will change for anything cause they are so desperate.

Just like the christians that convert to islam and follow the satanic verses.  Desperation Indeed.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on December 18, 2012, 09:37:12 PM
Look Muslims laugh and smile who woulda thought  ::)

They must be reminiscing about some of their favourite honor killing stories.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Stefano on December 18, 2012, 09:45:06 PM
They must be reminiscing about some of their favourite honor killing stories.

Maybe they were watching a the muhaamed-Aisha porn that is circulating amongst muslims. :D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 19, 2012, 09:07:23 AM
Maybe they were watching a the muhaamed-Aisha porn that is circulating amongst muslims. :D

 :o what is worng with you?  :-[


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: loco on December 19, 2012, 09:50:31 AM
Australians HATE ISLAM and their sick perverted ideology, regardless of the spin from the politicians, you can rest assure that Muslims are despised by Aussies just as much as Muslims despise non-muslims.  Aussies are hard to pull the wool over their eyes, Muslims love to practice their sociopathy and deceit on naive cultures, it won't work in Australia.


Australia Religions:    

Protestant 27.4% (Anglican 18.7%, Uniting Church 5.7%, Presbyterian and Reformed 3%), Catholic 25.8%, Eastern Orthodox 2.7%, other Christian 7.9%, Buddhist 2.1%, Muslim 1.7%, other 2.4%, unspecified 11.3%, none 18.7% (2006 Census)

The World Factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/as.html


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:34:05 AM
Beware of satan and his prphet muhahamed. Look at all the pagan rituals muslims perform. The call to prayer is really satans instructions spreading the words of hate and fear.

Join forces with god against the unholy allah and his cabal.




Ignorant, angry and hate filled as always. You are part of the forces of the devil because Allah is the name of God almighty in Arabic, Eloh, Alah, etc.. in hebrew and aramaic

O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. Surah 2:168

Satan is the open enemy to mankind and when we always say:

Audhu Billahi Minashaitanir Rajeem (أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم)

'I seek refuge from the accursed Satan'. This phrase is often recited to ward away evil and before saying bismillahi rahman ar-Raheem before reading the Quran or other activities.

Bismillahi rahman ar-raheem

In the name of God the most merciful the most compassionate.

You are evil and strive to deter people from God almighty and you are the one siding with the forces of evil, the anti christ to come and satan, not us Muslims who strive to be submissive to God almighty and obedient to God almighty.


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
More on the church, anti-christ and Illuminati connection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJhp5guJRY


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:52:46 AM
The church is the seat of the anti-christ to come and has nothing to do with our beloved prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ05eK_1eDQ


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
Do you all honestly think Jesus (peace be upon him) who served the poor, the leppers, would be like the romans who cherish gold.


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:58:12 AM
^(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c305/benodette/Q3%202008/Q%202%202009/May12MassKidronGetty7-1.jpg)

(http://biblelight.net/Sources/throne-med.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KbOTglQKmDU/TyBTf94bZQI/AAAAAAAAAO4/GffW9JvNnpE/s1600/Popethrone.jpg)

(http://www.cogwriter.com/satanthrone.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/x36kz.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KSOxOirh0NU/TqnNF-Wgg4I/AAAAAAAACn0/HeMplWHl5RQ/s640/Pope%252C+Cardinals.jpg)

These are the helpers of satan, followers of satan and those that lead people to worship a man Jesus (peace be upon him) and not God. They will be the helpers of the anti-christ to fool the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYyuTaOetvY


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
Dajjāl is a common Arabic word (دجال) with the meaning "deceiving" or "the Placebo" or "impostor" Al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl, with the definite article al- ("the"), refers to "the deceiving Messiah", a specific end-of times deceiver.

Muhammad is reported to have said:
... Allah is not one eyed while Messiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape.[3]

Sahih al-Bukhari, 3:30:105


Title: Re: The church, the pope, satanism and illuminati
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 19, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Ignorant, angry and hate filled as always. You are part of the forces of the devil because Allah is the name of God almighty in Arabic, Eloh, Alah, etc.. in hebrew and aramaic

O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitân (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. Surah 2:168

Satan is the open enemy to mankind and when we always say:

Audhu Billahi Minashaitanir Rajeem (أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم)

'I seek refuge from the accursed Satan'. This phrase is often recited to ward away evil and before saying bismillahi rahman ar-Raheem before reading the Quran or other activities.

Bismillahi rahman ar-raheem

In the name of God the most merciful the most compassionate.

You are evil and strive to deter people from God almighty and you are the one siding with the forces of evil, the anti christ to come and satan, not us Muslims who strive to be submissive to God almighty and obedient to God almighty.

keep hitting them man, the truth hurts them. its like sun to vampires.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: loco on December 19, 2012, 12:13:43 PM
United States Religions:    

Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)

The World Factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 12:58:43 PM
^So a big surprise? Just how in Muslim countries christians are 0.01% for the most part. The difference is Islam is rising in the west.

The US statistics you show are funny because according to non-muslim statistics there are 4 million Muslims in the US of which 1 million are CONVERTS to Islam, in other words not born into Islam.

So woopie do the US has some 300 million people. There are however 4 million Muslims which is something statistically been on a rapid rise.. Besides Jews are such a small minority as well but they run your country's politics, media, hollywood, washington, federal reserve/banking system, etc....

The US has 311,591,917 people according to 2011 statistics. Statistics of Islam in 2010 state 0.8% of the population around 2.6 million Muslims. Showcasing that your statistics from 2007 how Muslims grew further from 0.6% to 0.8%

The latest statistics demonstrate 4 million Muslims in the US of which 1 million are converts.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 01:06:41 PM
• U.S. Muslims will go from a tiny minority now, less than 1% of the nation, to 1.7%. That's a jump from 2.6 million people in 2010 to 6.2 million.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-01-27-1Amuslim27_ST_N.htm

Whatever the estimates and statistics state, the fact is clear. Islam is on a rapid rise in America. Even if we are a minority.

In France over 20% of the population is Muslim.

Converts to Islam from all races are becoming Muslim across western nations. In particular Uk, France, Netherlands, Germany, USA, Australia, etc...

It's not just 'immigrants' but white natives like myself that are embracing Islam.

Another interesting fact is that WHITE WOMEN are the ones leading the conversion rates. If Islam is so 'oppressive' how come women are the ones converting the most. My mother and grandmother also became Muslim.

Another interesting point.. DESPITE all the lies, slander, demonizations and hate from people such as yourself and other resident clown islamophobes on here, the media, etc... people are STILL embracing Islam.

The hate you spew is making people actually want to find out about Islam.

The BS in the media is what led me to also want to learn more about Islam and I also happened to have lived with Arab Muslims and it gave me a further insight into the BS propaganda against Islam and Muslims.


Title: Educational videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 02:42:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W02ETaohICI


Title: The power of du'a (invocation/supplication)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 02:55:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciu0B7YeYOA


Title: Re: The power of du'a (invocation/supplication)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 03:08:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Zyh75Q8FE

Excellent lecture


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on December 19, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
:o what is worng with you?  :-[

christians/atheists such nice and respectful people.And can you beleieve stefano was a volunteer helping people,bit of a joke really.

Christans must be really happy jacking up there numbers by converting starving african children


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
You know back in high school I had a south Korean friend who was a missionary. Over the summer he would go all over poor countries in south america, Africa and Asia. He said their goal is to convert people to Christianity and he had no shame about it even admitted they give people food and tell them it's from Jesus to convert them.

In one of our political classes (mind you this was a catholic high school), we had a discussion on the very subject, is it moral to deceitfully convert people to Christianity. We had quite an interesting debate, the very topic of bribing people to convert via food/etc... was the very thing we discussed.

Right around that time I was reading about other religions including Islam as well... it really made me think. Basically Christianity is a religion based on emotional rhetoric and 'feel good'. Which in essence has nothing to do with Jesus' preaching or works...

To get numbers by any means necessary. People are not embracing Christianity because they believe in God, rather more so because it's a religion of convenience. Do whatever you want and you are 'saved'. Club, drink, bars, it's all fair game but 'try to be good'.

In essence if we look at all that Jesus said according to biblical writings... it is pretty much spot on what Islam preaches... unlike the Christianity that is being spread erroneously attributing everything to Jesus.

For instance "Jesus loves you"... oh boy.. I had a 4 day camp in grade 8 where they held us up in a chapel singing songs about Jesus our lord, Jesus loves you, etc... just emotional stuff. Then at night used to play tapes loud (when we are suppose to sleep!) "Jesus loves you".

All emotional rhetoric... nothing related to Jesus' teachings. Not once is there anything in the bible about "Jesus loves you". It's a new age marketing plot to attract the ignorant masses through emotional rhetoric.

Just like in Islam, Jesus according to the bible was angry at certain crooked people, told people that you will enter heaven through good deeds, etc... not the made up fables of the church.

Christianity and the roman church was losing followers post world war 2.. as the church was basically allied with hitler or kept quiet about the oppression of the Jews. Before the reformation it was "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL if you don't accept Jesus" preaching so it was changed to "Jesus love you" rhetoric instead. Far more appealing.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
One more thing.. in contrast to those who become Christian... those who become Muslim are far and wide and sincere.  You will find all over the world, all over the internet stories and videos of people how they found Islam, how they learned about Islam, how they were initially fooled by the media, families, society, etc... into hating Islam, etc... They really were seeking the truth and truly believe in God. That is their goal.

On the other hand those that embrace Christianity and were say even born muslim in a muslim country. They either A. had no knowledge of Islam to begin with B. Had bad experiences with culture where they are from (nothing to do with islam but falsely attributing in their ignorance). C. Never had faith to begin with and found an easy way out with Christianity as it's a do whatever you want but try to be good you're already 'saved'. D. Out of love of this world don't want anything to do with Islam and see the benefit of living this life 'to the fullest' while being 'saved'.

And to make matters worse, certain evangelical Christians even resort to FAKE 'conversion' videos.

As Muslims who understand Islam, we can see straight through the later, but most non-muslims can't tell the difference.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: stingray on December 19, 2012, 03:48:44 PM
You know back in high school I had a south Korean friend who was a missionary. Over the summer he would go all over poor countries in south america, Africa and Asia. He said their goal is to convert people to Christianity and he had no shame about it even admitted they give people food and tell them it's from Jesus to convert them.

In one of our political classes (mind you this was a catholic high school), we had a discussion on the very subject, is it moral to deceitfully convert people to Christianity. We had quite an interesting debate, the very topic of bribing people to convert via food/etc... was the very thing we discussed.

Right around that time I was reading about other religions including Islam as well... it really made me think. Basically Christianity is a religion based on emotional rhetoric and 'feel good'. Which in essence has nothing to do with Jesus' preaching or works...

To get numbers by any means necessary. People are not embracing Christianity because they believe in God, rather more so because it's a religion of convenience. Do whatever you want and you are 'saved'. Club, drink, bars, it's all fair game but 'try to be good'.

In essence if we look at all that Jesus said according to biblical writings... it is pretty much spot on what Islam preaches... unlike the Christianity that is being spread erroneously attributing everything to Jesus.

For instance "Jesus loves you"... oh boy.. I had a 4 day camp in grade 8 where they held us up in a chapel singing songs about Jesus our lord, Jesus loves you, etc... just emotional stuff. Then at night used to play tapes loud (when we are suppose to sleep!) "Jesus loves you".

All emotional rhetoric... nothing related to Jesus' teachings. Not once is there anything in the bible about "Jesus loves you". It's a new age marketing plot to attract the ignorant masses through emotional rhetoric.

Just like in Islam, Jesus according to the bible was angry at certain crooked people, told people that you will enter heaven through good deeds, etc... not the made up fables of the church.

Christianity and the roman church was losing followers post world war 2.. as the church was basically allied with hitler or kept quiet about the oppression of the Jews. Before the reformation it was "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL if you don't accept Jesus" preaching so it was changed to "Jesus love you" rhetoric instead. Far more appealing.

But thats why they go to poor countries, because the people there have little choices, cant differentiate between right or wrong or put a intellectually argument.

Thats why you hardly see muslims in the western or european world largely coming to christianity, ive never met any muslim who has converted there religion.

Missionaries cant bribe the western muslims with bread, cause they got freedoms and can put a fight and defence.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
That's in effective the interesting thing.

University educated, western educated individuals are embracing Islam. Hence there is no excuse for ignorance or lack of education.

On the other hand those that are embracing Christianity they happen to either be overtly emotional people in some need and they find comfort in emotional exposure, and yes that can include uneducated people in villages of Asia, Africa, South America etc...

Those that come from Muslim majority countries and embrace Christianity happen to mostly be uneducated in religion to begin with, exposed to culture and not Islam or from offshoot sects or after money and this world like that Palestinian son of Hamas dude.

For example lol.. I watched just a few days ago a video from some Christian youtube channel about Germany and how churches are empty.. but they had a 'surprise' when they found Iranians embracing Christianity and this 'brought people back into the empty churches of germany'. What these fellow Christians do not realize is that Iranians follow shiism which is a religion offshoot from Islam and it's a topic by itself. On top of that, even those that are shi'a they themselves are not knowlegeable of shiism and do not practice it. They just live the cultural life in Iran, and alcohol, clubbing, sex change, all these things are common in Iran but against orthodox Islam which shi'a islam is not.

Even a lot of these so called ex-muslims if you look at their backgrounds say Irshad Manji the 'muslim lesbian' if you read any of her rants they mostly center around her poor experiences as a youth in what was she from bangladesh or something... cultural issues NOT islam.

The ones who are out for profit well they are another breed. Take Ali Hirsi, who was exposed and humiliated not by Muslims but by non-muslim journalists and exposed what a fraud she is.

At best I can give an excuse to those again who are ignorant of Islam but come from Muslim majority countries and live a very secular life, just into this world... then find some faith in Christianity but pretty much resort to the emotional side where they find comfort from being with other people who have faith. They just happen to be unfortunately ignorant on Islam.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on December 19, 2012, 04:44:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K7fGqJrnnA


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 04:51:33 PM
Hey E-Kul, you seem to love demented pictures.

Btw, I am still proudly Muslim after watching your pathetic video :)

Black Americans are also rapidly embracing Islam, it is the white men of America that oppressed the black man.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n70sh5hZSdA


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 04:55:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSXtnBqPBA


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYxdc_hbFIQ


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:09:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePqnix53RJU


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=othj8NX9jEc


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:30:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMBGAXlXDYA


Title: Re: The power of du'a (invocation/supplication)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:34:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up9M5HG1M-0


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:35:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otrCgG6QeIs


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Radical Plato on December 19, 2012, 05:48:30 PM
As in science is not the only answer. Science is merely a tool to understand the best of what we have discovered in the material sense. Science is definitely not always the answer as it can be riddled with wrong answers. After all Religious Nutters once thought the earth was flat and the center of the universe (for example).

Religion offers ZERO answers and holds back progress, Science has taken man (except non-muslim men) out of the dark ages and created a lifestyle that Muhammad could only have dreamed about.  Religion could never have created rockets, planes, cars, genetic engineering, modern medicine etc etc.  It won't be long now till science discovers why so many humans believe in ridiculousness rather than seek the truth.  The reason Religions HATE science is because they know that it will be science that ENDS religion once and for all.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 19, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
^Yet Muslims are the ones responsible for the development of sciences, modern medicine, mathematics, etc... without which you would have none of what you claim. It's funny you mention rockets, planes, cars, etc... because without Muslim discovery and engineering these things wouldn't have been. A crankshaft, a primitive rocket (not vx rocket), pistons, combustion, the scientific method all things that cmae through Muslims but Muslims don't get credit for.

If it weren't for the delay through crusades, etc.. Muslims could have been the ones to fulfill the development of a car before anyone else. Muslims already discovered thousand years back pistons, crankshafts, etc... masters in understanding  mechanics. Chemistry? Without muslims there wouldn't be experimentation into chemistry.

Islam does not hate science, science prospered under Islam. Science did not flourish under Christianity that's a different case. Today Christianity is seperated from people's lives and people 'prosper in sciences', but muslims do not prosper as they seperated Islam from their lives, an opposite case.

If you watched the first video you would understand that Islam encourages thought, rational, discovery, etc... that is how the barbaric arab tribes became united and ruled half the world for over a thousand years.

Progress slowed down each time in the islamic empire when wars happened, crusades, mogul invasion, colonialists, then imperialist america, etc... Otherwise progress is spawned from Islam as Islam invites to progress.

That is to say progress in the worldly sense, but Islam is about principle unlike the western thought system where anything goes anyway the wind blows. We stick to our principle's but it does not deter us from progress.

The islamic world is divided and is not upon Islam. The rule is via dictators selected by past colonialists and imperialists -- they are secularists. And when Muslims try to return themselves to the rule of Islam, the west will not allow it and will create problems and encourage civil strife, division, ethnic, racial, nationalist thought to divide the people. Material progress is meaningless as all past civilizations fell apart when they solely relied on material value.

You just posted a video of some women being molested by a butch lesbian cop. Despite all the 'material progress' there is moral decline in western society.

Communists are a perfect example. They barely lasted what a hundred years not even? Highly pro materialism, highly anti-religion.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 19, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
^Yet Muslims are the ones responsible for the development of sciences, modern medicine, mathematics, etc... without which you would have none of what you claim. It's funny you mention rockets, planes, cars, etc... because without Muslim discovery and engineering these things wouldn't have been. A crankshaft, a primitive rocket (not vx rocket), pistons, combustion, the scientific method all things that cmae through Muslims but Muslims don't get credit for.

If it weren't for the delay through crusades, etc.. Muslims could have been the ones to fulfill the development of a car before anyone else. Muslims already discovered thousand years back pistons, crankshafts, etc... masters in understanding  mechanics. Chemistry? Without muslims there wouldn't be experimentation into chemistry.

Islam does not hate science, science prospered under Islam. Science did not flourish under Christianity that's a different case. Today Christianity is seperated from people's lives and people 'prosper in sciences', but muslims do not prosper as they seperated Islam from their lives, an opposite case.

If you watched the first video you would understand that Islam encourages thought, rational, discovery, etc... that is how the barbaric arab tribes became united and ruled half the world for over a thousand years.

Progress slowed down each time in the islamic empire when wars happened, crusades, mogul invasion, colonialists, then imperialist america, etc... Otherwise progress is spawned from Islam as Islam invites to progress.

That is to say progress in the worldly sense, but Islam is about principle unlike the western thought system where anything goes anyway the wind blows. We stick to our principle's but it does not deter us from progress.

The islamic world is divided and is not upon Islam. The rule is via dictators selected by past colonialists and imperialists -- they are secularists. And when Muslims try to return themselves to the rule of Islam, the west will not allow it and will create problems and encourage civil strife, division, ethnic, racial, nationalist thought to divide the people. Material progress is meaningless as all past civilizations fell apart when they solely relied on material value.

You just posted a video of some women being molested by a butch lesbian cop. Despite all the 'material progress' there is moral decline in western society.

Communists are a perfect example. They barely lasted what a hundred years not even? Highly pro materialism, highly anti-religion.


Lol at islam being the ones to propogate science. Is that what your biased islamic sites say? Greeks and romans were there far before islam got started. China was responsible for many scientific discoveries yet never got due credit. Other cultures stole their ideas and claimed credit for them. Yes scientists were held back by christians because of fear something that still exists today. If silam was so science oriented why didnt it continue this practice to this day?

To you islams is the be all end all so your biases are obvious. Islams was started on borrowed christian ideology by a man who sat in cave and claimed god spoke to him and that man who molested a child should be believed. Islam is a tool of a madman who propogated war, deceit that continues to this day. There is a reason why muslims are despised in all countries that they dont have a majority in.

Continue to live in ignorance with your biases. You are following the path created by a pedophile who stole christian concepts and created his own brand of misery.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 19, 2012, 08:22:57 PM

Lol at islam being the ones to propogate science. Is that what your biased islamic sites say? Greeks and romans were there far before islam got started. China was responsible for many scientific discoveries yet never got due credit. Other cultures stole their ideas and claimed credit for them. Yes scientists were held back by christians because of fear something that still exists today. If silam was so science oriented why didnt it continue this practice to this day?

To you islams is the be all end all so your biases are obvious. Islams was started on borrowed christian ideology by a man who sat in cave and claimed god spoke to him and that man who molested a child should be believed. Islam is a tool of a madman who propogated war, deceit that continues to this day. There is a reason why muslims are despised in all countries that they dont have a majority in.

Continue to live in ignorance with your biases. You are following the path created by a pedophile who stole christian concepts and created his own brand of misery.

you never learn do you!


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 19, 2012, 09:05:41 PM
you never learn do you!

Actually you don't. Thats why you live the life of lies and denial.

Carry on achmutt.


Title: Re: Time Utilization (Excellent Islamic lecture)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 20, 2012, 09:05:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzwNRyEJGI


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 20, 2012, 09:08:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mka75i-ogRE


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: bigbobs on December 20, 2012, 08:26:02 PM

Just becuase science cant explain everything doesnt mean you can fill those gaps with religion.

Just as you feel followers of religion have blind faith, the fact that science does not explain everything by default means that believing solely in science is indeed blind faith.  The blind faith component is believing matter just began and came out of nowhere.  Dont fool yourself into thinking that athiests have no blind faith component in their thinking.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 20, 2012, 10:00:48 PM


[Baqarah 2:6-7] As for those whose fate is disbelief, whether you warn them or do not warn them - it is all one for them; they will not believe. Allah has sealed their hearts and their ears, and on their eyes is a covering; and for them is a terrible punishment

[Luqman 31:7] And when Our verses are recited to him he haughtily turns away as if he did not hear them - as if there is deafness in his ears; so give him the glad tidings of a painful punishment



Title: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 20, 2012, 10:13:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWIwuOh6qME


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Radical Plato on December 21, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
Just as you feel followers of religion have blind faith, the fact that science does not explain everything by default means that believing solely in science is indeed blind faith.  The blind faith component is believing matter just began and came out of nowhere.  Dont fool yourself into thinking that athiests have no blind faith component in their thinking.
Scientists don't believe that matter just spontaneously arose, they don't even theorise about that, they believe based on what they know about the universe that it began from an incredibly small dense piece of matter (they don't know where this come from), that was triggered with massive force (they don't know the trigger) and a violent explosion resulted causing aeons of expansion and in the process galaxies and universes were formed.  Prior to this, their was no time or space.  Scientists use science comprised of the highest human learning and wisdom to determine how the universe works, God is irrelevant, Science couldn't care less if God created it all or Not, they just want to know the truth and not rely on faith.  The fact is, faith in science is what sees people jump out of a plane with a parachute, rely on the brakes in their car, cook their food in a microwave, pretty much everything a modern person uses is currently used because of science (unfortunately faith in GOD doesn't seem a good way of creating hi-tech devices)  Science isn't about faith, and it doesn't have to make sense, if that's what happened, that's what happened.  It is far less confusing than trying to explain what created an infinitely powerful creator!

And unlike GOD, the big bang theory can't be used to exploit and manipulate humanity in the most horrendous of ways, it is simply an explanation of what happened, not based on fiction, but aeons of human knowledge and learning, the same wisdom that sees humans living in an incredible technological age, with advanced air flight, communications, medicines, Genetics, transport, agriculture etc.. all thanks to human ingenuity, wisdom and SCIENCE, and all without GOD ever having made an appearance.  With Science one doesn't need faith, because science is based on Universal Laws, if they weren't, nobody would ever fly in a plane, imagine telling someone, that aeronautical theory only worked intermittently, that sometimes the laws that govern it don't work, then air travel would require tremendous faith, but thanks to science, we know if the scientific laws are followed, the result will be predictable.  The reason religion HATES Science, is because one day science will discover why humans believe in ridiculousness (Religion), come up for a cure for it and speed humanity's progress along a much faster trajectory.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: bigbobs on December 21, 2012, 08:05:42 AM
Scientists don't believe that matter just spontaneously arose, they don't even theorise about that, they believe based on what they know about the universe that it began from an incredibly small dense piece of matter (they don't know where this come from), that was triggered with massive force (they don't know the trigger) and a violent explosion resulted causing aeons of expansion and in the process galaxies and universes were formed.  Prior to this, their was no time or space.

Actually the Quran speaks of the Big Bang well before scientists documented it.

You didn't get the meaning of my post anyway, what I'm saying is that solely believing in science which does not theorise or attempt address the fundamental question of how the original dense matter was created or who separated it, is indeed a form of blind faith.

I believe there is a God who created the universe, because that's what makes most sense to me.  You accuse me of having blind faith because I haven't physically seen God (even though Muslims don't believe He has a physical form anyway).  You believe there is no God because that's what makes sense to you.  When you choose between a religion or athiesm you are simply choosing which blind faith you will follow.  Simply ignoring a question or refusing to attempt to address it does not make your beliefs any less blind than mine.

Also no idea why you claim that religion "hates" Science - Islam encourages it.  One can believe in both science and God.  They are not exclusive of each other.  God created the laws that allow science.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
^MashAllah may Allah (swt) reward them. Ameen. And guide those non-muslims ameen.

Abu Huraira reported Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) as saying: A person while walking along the path saw the branches of a tree lying there. He said: By Allaah, I shall remove these from this so that these may not do harm to the Muslims, and he was admitted to Paradise. (Muslim, 6340)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 09:55:17 AM
“On the authority of Abu Huraira who said that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him said), “Every small bone of everyone has upon it a charitable act for everyday upon which the sun rises. Bringing about justice between two is an act of charity. Helping a man get on his mount, lifting him onto it or helping him put his belongings onto it, is a charitable act. A good word is a charitable act. Every step you take toward the prayer is a charitable act. And removing a harmful thing from the path is a charitable act.” (Recorded in al-Bukhari and Muslim)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
“Faith is seventy- or sixty- some odd branches. The most virtuous of them is the statement, ‘There is none worthy of worship but Allah.’ And the lowest of them is removing something harmful from the path. And hayaa (modesty) is part of faith.” (Recorded in Muslim)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: L00n on December 21, 2012, 10:01:57 AM
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/1997/121569328412562643401356112904q08jIsBbTXfdIstwNIR8.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/1997/121569328412562643401356112904q08jIsBbTXfdIstwNIR8.JPG)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 10:19:47 AM
^That's funny, because the British colonial scum is responsible for wars and colonialism. They didn't like them silly mozzlems resisting colonialists. Funny, the british empire fell apart as did the french empire only lasting 200-300 years. Hah.

Oh and, silly me, what was I thinking, posting hadiths which indicate taking obstacles from the road, cleaning up the road, etc... relating to the video :) So evil to clean up the road! Them evil mozzlems but of course  ::)


Title: End of the world
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 10:30:00 AM
 ;D Anyone who claims to know the end of the world is a liar. As both Jesus, Muhammad and Gabriel (peace be upon them) said that no one knows, no man, no angel, only God Almighty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA_jht4GsqY


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 21, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/1997/121569328412562643401356112904q08jIsBbTXfdIstwNIR8.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/1997/121569328412562643401356112904q08jIsBbTXfdIstwNIR8.JPG)

LOL yea OK buddy more like as long as the Quran is around (which will be alwas, as Allah said he wil protect it) people will find guidence and truth in their lives.


Title: Re: The power of du'a (invocation/supplication)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 12:51:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUNrigSzg4


Title: Re: The power of du'a (invocation/supplication)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 21, 2012, 01:49:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IQZItyS4c


Title: A true remarkable video.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 21, 2012, 03:41:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDeenShowTV?feature=watch


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: avxo on December 21, 2012, 03:46:16 PM
But who created the laws that allow us to fly?

You assume that the "laws" had to be created.


There are waay too many intricacies that allow us to life on this planet to say it's all a coincidence and there's no "invisible hand" guiding it.

Out of hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy alone, life develops on one after billions of years and it's the cause of some "invisible hand" instead of chance... what a joke.

But let's play along, for just a second, shall we? Surely there are waay too many intricacies that allow an invisible hand to form and "to say it's all a coincidence and there no super-"invisible hand" guiding it. And so on, ad infinitum. You just wave your hand and say: "oh, the invisible hand was always there and so it's all good." But I have news for you: you can't have your cake and eat it too.


Believing solely in science is blind faith because you're accepting that you can not answer what created the universe and us.

Science doesn't require belief on faith (i.e. in the absence of evidence). Science says: "here are the observable facts, here is a theory that fits those facts, here are some predictions that this theory makes, let's see what happens!" If the theory fails to fit the facts either it will be expanded, or tossed aside and replaced. This has been happening for all of our documented history. No, science isn't blind faith. Science is the polar opposite of blind faith.

As for answering "what created the universe" you are making the same, classic mistake that many others before you have made: your question has hidden assumptions. You assume that the Universe was created. You cannot prove it. Before you can ask "what created the universe" you must first prove that it required creation. Prove that, and then we can discuss the "what" part.


Title: Aliens? Demons/Devils . Satan.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 22, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weci1Wc4XEM


Title: Re: Aliens? Demons/Devils . Satan.
Post by: a_ahmed on December 22, 2012, 04:57:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD_5f6jIVdk


Title: Re: Race to paradise
Post by: a_ahmed on December 22, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmIvMirxuI


Title: Re: Time Utilization (Excellent Islamic lecture)
Post by: a_ahmed on December 22, 2012, 05:29:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL1fGJbL5eU


Title: Re: Time Utilization (Excellent Islamic lecture)
Post by: Stefano on December 22, 2012, 06:55:50 PM
Too bad muslims are still living in the past following primitive writings of a pedo who sat in a cave claiming to have spoken to god.  :D



Title: Re: Aliens? Demons/Devils . Satan.
Post by: Stefano on December 22, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Isnt allah satan and muhahahah-med the antichrist? Considering the devils work muslims do in the world spreading evil methinks another crusade may be neccessitated.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AGQGHPN6hzY/TqoMquWgJVI/AAAAAAAAC-o/kRp7ZeMIdfc/s1600/mo_and_devil.jpeg)


Title: Does the Qur'an say that Jews, Christians and Sabians will be rewarded?
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 22, 2012, 09:36:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiNTHms8pro

masha-allah. this guys is a great speaker.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: D_1000 on December 23, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
LOL yea OK buddy more like as long as the Quran is around (which will be alwas, as Allah said he wil protect it) people will find guidence and truth in their lives.

Yeah, but Allah is an imaginary thing made up by men, so how will that work out?


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: Thick Nick on December 23, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
You Islam devil worship death cult guys are just lol.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 23, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
Yeah, but Allah is an imaginary thing made up by men, so how will that work out?

Allah= GOD. GOD isnt imaginary :)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 23, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
You Islam devil worship death cult guys are following the truth. when i see the others i just want to  lol.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: pedro01 on December 23, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
Actually the Quran speaks of the Big Bang well before scientists documented it.

You didn't get the meaning of my post anyway, what I'm saying is that solely believing in science which does not theorise or attempt address the fundamental question of how the original dense matter was created or who separated it, is indeed a form of blind faith.

I believe there is a God who created the universe, because that's what makes most sense to me.  You accuse me of having blind faith because I haven't physically seen God (even though Muslims don't believe He has a physical form anyway).  You believe there is no God because that's what makes sense to you.  When you choose between a religion or athiesm you are simply choosing which blind faith you will follow.  Simply ignoring a question or refusing to attempt to address it does not make your beliefs any less blind than mine.

Also no idea why you claim that religion "hates" Science - Islam encourages it.  One can believe in both science and God.  They are not exclusive of each other.  God created the laws that allow science.

This is not true.

Your position is based on science knowing everything which it currently doesn't.

If we do not believe in religion, it does not mean we have blind faith in science.

If we do not believe in religion it means:
- we do not know what happens when we die
- we do not know how the Universe came to be
- we do not know what the smallest particle of matter is
- we do not fully understand how life came to be

This is not blind faith in science, this is merely deciding to believe in what has been proven and having an open mind about what has not yet been proven.

You have answers from all of the above and the answers are all the same "God did it". This is blind faith.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: pedro01 on December 23, 2012, 07:58:46 PM
^Yet Muslims are the ones responsible for the development of sciences, modern medicine, mathematics, etc... without which you would have none of what you claim. It's funny you mention rockets, planes, cars, etc... because without Muslim discovery and engineering these things wouldn't have been. A crankshaft, a primitive rocket (not vx rocket), pistons, combustion, the scientific method all things that cmae through Muslims but Muslims don't get credit for.

I think the Chinese might want to have a word with you about the invention of rockets....


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: pedro01 on December 23, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
Just as you feel followers of religion have blind faith, the fact that science does not explain everything by default means that believing solely in science is indeed blind faith.  The blind faith component is believing matter just began and came out of nowhere.  Dont fool yourself into thinking that athiests have no blind faith component in their thinking.

Science does not explain everything because science is still moving forward.

The only reason that religion explains everything is because it's the same explanation FOR everything.

What's that light in the sky? God
What happens when you die? God
What happens below the subatomic level? God
Why did that earthquake strike Haiti? God

If you have one answer to every question, then of course that explains everything.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Radical Plato on December 23, 2012, 08:09:31 PM
Science does not explain everything because science is still moving forward.

The only reason that religion explains everything is because it's the same explanation FOR everything.

What's that light in the sky? God
What happens when you die? God
What happens below the subatomic level? God
Why did that earthquake strike Haiti? God

If you have one answer to every question, then of course that explains everything.
Who created GOD? God <--WTF

Who created EVIL and SUFFERING? GOD <-- WTF

Why is religion so harmful? GOD

Why do priests molest little children? <-- WTF x 2



Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 23, 2012, 10:29:08 PM
I think the Chinese might want to have a word with you about the invention of rockets....

It has been pointed out several times that muslims didnt event half the shit they take credit for. Previously he claimed muslims invented gunpowder. Another chinese invention. This guy love to quote from his biased islamic websites which makes up stuff as they go along.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: Stefano on December 23, 2012, 10:32:20 PM


The truth? Lol. Muslim wont kno the truth if it hit them on the head courtesy of an israeli rocket. ;D

Its a fact that muslims are the moat decietful cult on the planet who will lie cheat and steal to achieve their ends. Muhahahahmed stole christian and western ideas and cobble dthem together to form his false religion.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: D_1000 on December 24, 2012, 03:03:40 AM
Allah= GOD. GOD isnt imaginary :)

Sorry to burst you bubble then, old chap. Allah = imaginary.



Title: Re: Race to paradise through God's mercy, forgiveness and with good deeds
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 08:51:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4grhtdzgzM


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 24, 2012, 12:10:13 PM
Sorry to burst you bubble then, old chap. Allah = imaginary.



I feel sorry for you, old chap.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 24, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
It has been pointed out several times that muslims didnt event half the shit they take credit for. Previously he claimed muslims invented gunpowder. Another chinese invention. This guy love to quote from his biased islamic websites which makes up stuff as they go along.

Shut up you gimmick. get onto your real account you bitch.

You youself use gimmicks because your too much of a bitch. thats why you accuse me of being one too, becuase you think everyone is  bitch like you.

 
:-* Stefano is a gimmick :-* the secret is out


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
Don't get riled up brother, these guys are losers, probably some old 40+ year old guys who are ignorant and have a deep rooted hatred for Islam and Muslims. They are ignoramuses. Their goal is to rile people up, troll threads, derail threads, misguide and misdirect people away.

They did the same thing to the thread I created where I was posting videos of stories of people like myself who have become Muslim. They don't want people to hear about Islam, they just want to spread their hate and lies. It's very similar to the way the qureish, abu jahal, abu lahab, etc... did. Before Muhammad (pbuh) even had a chance to speak, they would yell and scream liar, crook, this and that all kinds of false accusations so that they would misdirect and deviate people away from even getting a chance to hear about Islam.

They are sick in the head.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 03:09:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEzmKnELFrk


Title: Re: Know Muhammad Campaign video
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 03:10:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEzmKnELFrk


Title: Re: Race to paradise through God's mercy, forgiveness and with good deeds
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_x_EbwIodE


Title: Re: Race to paradise through God's mercy, forgiveness and with good deeds
Post by: a_ahmed on December 24, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHQTJVw_Q-g


Title: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 24, 2012, 08:33:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgGZCTm6JEY


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 24, 2012, 08:47:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dcaLQa97PA


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 24, 2012, 09:00:03 PM

http://RNcPVNboooQ

dont click this, who knows what garbage it will infect your computer with.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 24, 2012, 09:06:55 PM
dont click this, who knows what garbage it will infect your computer with.
True it may have led you to a islamic site where all garbage lives.

Thanks for pointing it out so I could set it straight  ;)


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 24, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
True it may have led you to a islamic site where all garbage lives.

Thanks for pointing it out so I could set it straight  ;)

I pray to Allah to guide you.

I hope you know i dont hate you Stefano, I hate the foolish things you post though and the bad things you say, your a fellow human, you deserve the truth.

Dont take me as an enemy. I was foolsih and couldnt hold my anger, Islam teaches us to hold our anger and not respond harshly even if were insulted.  I just wanted to say sorry if I have insulted you personally, I hate your beliefs not you. I will continue to debate with you peacefully, but this name-calling is just nonsense.

I hope you find the truth. watch this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmIvMirxuI


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 24, 2012, 09:36:32 PM
I pray to Allah to guide you.

I hope you know i dont hate you Stefano, I hate the foolish things you post though and the bad things you say, your a fellow human, you deserve the truth.

Dont take me as an enemy. I was foolsih and couldnt hold my anger, Islam teaches us to hold our anger and not respond harshly even if were insulted.  I just wanted to say sorry if I have insulted you personally, I hate your beliefs not you. I will continue to debate with you peacefully, but this name-calling is just nonsense.

I hope you find the truth. watch this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmIvMirxuI

The feeling is mutual. I hate your religion not you. 
The damage its doing to this planet is incalculable.

Is this the new angle?  :D


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUMTajyxn10


Title: Re: Race to paradise through God's mercy, forgiveness and with good deeds
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nphwmCNKPAA


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzwNRyEJGI

Stefano all the so called 'convert from islam to christianity' videos have already been exposed for fraud (not to say there aren't ignorant people who didn't know about Islam to begin with and were born in a muslim country but embraced islam).


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzwNRyEJGI

Stefano all the so called 'convert from islam to christianity' videos have already been exposed for fraud (not to say there aren't ignorant people who didn't know about Islam to begin with and were born in a muslim country but embraced islam).

Typical respone from someone who is close minded and a fool. So all the christian conversions are to be doubted but converts toislam are to be believed. So in other words you believe only what you want to believe and shut out facts when they are presented.  No wonder you spout all this rubbish. Where is your proof that christian converters are fake? Oh thats right its all this imaginary crap you have all bumped up in your head.  I'll bet you beleive that all christian converters were coerced in some way right?  ::). No wonder you get owned by every individual who actually uses common sense.


Ok by your logic all the converters to islam are probably all staged. Muslim propoganda right?  :D


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
 ;)Science gives the most credible answers becausse proof is required rather than blind faith and  those facts can be evaluated by others. Tangible proof trumps empty words. Where is the proof that muhahahmed spoke to god? So everyone should believe him because he said so? Plenty of people throughout history claimed to speak to god to achieve their own ambitions. This is why muslims always shudder when the truth starts to permeate. They dont want the truth. They want to live in their own cocoon of ignorance relying on a book that used christianity as a base written centuries ago

Empty words such a sthose propogated by the madman muhahahmed will always be tonic to the uneducated foolslike achmutt who rely on biased islamic websites for his knowledge instead of opening his eyes and seing the world for what he really is.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 12:16:34 PM
Nope unlike Christianity we do not need rhetorical emotional non-sense or fake videos. Those who accept Islam are intellectual, educated and rational people and chose the religion despite all animosity including examples of your own animosity. Your animosity increases my faith and doesn't decrease it.

Christian missionaries rely on emotional rhetoric as their sole invitation to christianity, no one even knows or can agree upon what christianity even is as we've seen in the debates. And likewise they prey on the weak and poor in africa, asia, south america.

The opposite is true with Islam, university educated people are chosing to become Muslim and stay Muslim.

The facts are facts. As was already mentioned of the 4 million muslims in America, 1 million are converts to Islam.

You may hate it, you may despise it but these are the facts.

What do you have to offer me in christianity? Guidance? I don't think so. I was a Christian.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
You realize you sound as ignorant and hateful as the qureish pagans. The same methods, lies, deception and speech that they used, you are repeating. It's quite hilarious.

Yet here we are, despite all the hate and lies, people find out about Islam and are embracing Islam. The same kind of garbage you're spewing peaked my interest and ultimately led me to becoming Muslim. You are not doing anyone a service by being foul mouthed as you are.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
You realize you sound as ignorant and hateful as the qureish pagans. The same methods, lies, deception and speech that they used, you are repeating. It's quite hilarious.

Yet here we are, despite all the hate and lies, people find out about Islam and are embracing Islam. The same kind of garbage you're spewing peaked my interest and ultimately led me to becoming Muslim. You are not doing anyone a service by being foul mouthed as you are.

Still prentending to be aconvert i see.  :D

You are the one who sounds ignorant when your knowledge comes from biased islamic websites. Your only purpose here is to belittle christians and perpetuate your miserablly slanted viewpoints. This is why everyone regards you as a joke and you had to create your truebb account so someone agrees with your skewed views.

When it comes to lies and deception how do ypu explain those made by muhammmed? Marrying a child,
Your interest in islam is that of a radical zealot. You were never a christian. Thats a convient lie to add more strength to your arguements. I showed your comments to another muslim and he confirmed that you're a perfect example of a muslim who still lives in the dark ages. You live off a western country and attack it from within with your western hatred.
Typical muslim born to a muslim family not a christian family. 



Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 12:56:34 PM
Nope unlike Christianity we do not need rhetorical emotional non-sense or fake videos. Those who accept Islam are intellectual, educated and rational people and chose the religion despite all animosity including examples of your own animosity. Your animosity increases my faith and doesn't decrease it.

Christian missionaries rely on emotional rhetoric as their sole invitation to christianity, no one even knows or can agree upon what christianity even is as we've seen in the debates. And likewise they prey on the weak and poor in africa, asia, south america.

The opposite is true with Islam, university educated people are chosing to become Muslim and stay Muslim.

The facts are facts. As was already mentioned of the 4 million muslims in America, 1 million are converts to Islam.

You may hate it, you may despise it but these are the facts.

What do you have to offer me in christianity? Guidance? I don't think so. I was a Christian.

Fallaciesyou choose to beleive arent facts in the real world my blind zealot who pretends to be a former christian. So no educated muslim could ever consider another religion? You provided no facts except your own biased opinion when facts are around you.Just like i said before  deaf dumb and blind.

Most of the new generation of muslims are turning away from Islam because of all the doublefaced liars such as yourself who say one thing and do another. There are a large number of muslims who are also becoming atheist or agnotic because they took it upon themselves to educate themselves as to how the real world works and how different it is from the false promises and outright muhahmed espoused. Of course you being ignorant will prefer to stick his head in the sand like an ostrich and scream islamaphobe when faced with the truth.

I can show you all the evidence in the world but you'd stilll cling to your muhammmed dolly and your book of lies and scream in fear. The truth is your kryptonite.Perfectly naturwl since you follow muhahahahmed the prince of lies and the right hand of satan...er..I'mean-allah.


To quote YOU

You may hate it, you may despise it but these are the facts. ;D

Ex muslims pointing out that the truth is christianity not Islam. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LNYGEE3FQo
 :

Of course you may not want to believe that your death cult founded by a pedo is not the choice for EDUCATED people. For ignorant bACKWARD clown like you Islam is the religion of choice. Because you dont know any better.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
LOL my knowledge of Islam comes from Islam.... WOW MIND BLOWN!

Yes I am white, neither Arab or Desi. Bobber can attest to it as I actually met him in real life. :)

You sound more desperate every day man. You know what else? My mother, grandmother, father and younger uncle embraced Islam. You angry now :D lol.

Oooh typical muslim born to muslim family oooh. You're sounding stupid man. For a second you didn't think that someone who accepted Islam would agree and know what Islam teaches?

You don't know a single basic thing that Islam teaches. You just OWNED yourself in the other thread where your ignorance was demonstrated. Hardcore.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
LOL my knowledge of Islam comes from Islam.... WOW MIND BLOWN!







Yes I am white, neither Arab or Desi. Bobber can attest to it as I actually met him in real life. :)

You sound more desperate every day man. You know what else? My mother, grandmother, father and younger uncle embraced Islam. You angry now :D lol.

Oooh typical muslim born to muslim family oooh. You're sounding stupid man. For a second you didn't think that someone who accepted Islam would agree and know what Islam teaches?

You don't know a single basic thing that Islam teaches. You just OWNED yourself in the other thread where your ignorance was demonstrated. Hardcore.

Aw poor baby. So you're trying to use another muslim to cover up for you?  You sound desperate and angry that you were exposed. Predictable.

Your knowledge of islam comes from a radical branch of islam thatbelieves everyone is wrong except them. Typical islamic shut in.
Cry all you want. Thats not going to change the truth.

HARDCORE TRUTH


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
lol at repeatedly posting one video and those other refuted fake ex converts.

One can post thousands of videos from christians, jews, atheists, budhists becoming muslims :) And they stay muslims.

Some of these 'ex muslims' you speak of lol they were living a life solely based on the idea of living this life alone anyway they want. So becoming a 'christian' (even though its far off from what Jesus thought) and doing whatever you want and being 'saved' is not very hard is it? Nothing changes, just the label.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: L00n on December 25, 2012, 03:13:57 PM
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG)
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG)


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: a_ahmed on December 25, 2012, 04:17:32 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yvEgF69Vv5Q/SotM7TdJ0HI/AAAAAAAADlw/lKu5xsK-HeE/s400/ignorance.jpg)

^Yeah I remember that. And the story was aired on the 'very credible' fox news followed by CNN as I remember watching them back in the day. I wasn't muslim at the time but as always I pay attention to details.

Guess what? That was a fraudulent story. Went quite well with the Israeli Mossad agents that were captured on the same day that said "we are not your enemies, the palestinians, the arabs are" when they were caught filming 'the event'. Of course those many israelis were just 'deported'.

The 'celeberation' videos had nothing to do with september 11th and were not near or on september 11th. In other words. Faked story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlOS7cyE-h8

Not that it's the first time abc, bbc, cbc, nbc, fox, cnn etc... trash have used fake footage to bolster government agendas.

Just in recent year or so we had fake Syrian footage, fake Libya footage, etc... to lead to war.

(http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/aug2012/mediacaughtpublishingfakesyriawarimageryagain.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zRYtRqt824

Yes this is an Indian flag:

(http://www.indianchild.com/images/indiaflagbig.gif)

lol...


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: stingray on December 25, 2012, 04:38:02 PM
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG)
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG)

It is well documented that the palestinians cheering episode had nothing to do with sept 11, but was taken years before sept 11 for another issue, but remarkable surfaced on sept 11.

Israeli jews were also cheering sept 11, because we all know jews did sept 11,

Israelis were celebrating.

An important question to ask is why the media did not report at the time that Israelis were celebrating the destruction of the WTC here in America as it was happening! 5 Israelis were arrested after someone called the police because they saw them celebrating. The mainstream media suppressed this story. Six months later ABC mentions it in an attempt to explain it away. They even allowed the lawyers for these Israelis to say it was simply immaturity!: " ... no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct."

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,"


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 05:15:40 PM
lol at repeatedly posting one video and those other refuted fake ex converts.

One can post thousands of videos from christians, jews, atheists, budhists becoming muslims :) And they stay muslims.

Some of these 'ex muslims' you speak of lol they were living a life solely based on the idea of living this life alone anyway they want. So becoming a 'christian' (even though its far off from what Jesus thought) and doing whatever you want and being 'saved' is not very hard is it? Nothing changes, just the label.

 The only true converts to islam are people with severe psychological issues. You can see that in the way that they talk. They have the need to be controlled and since christianity is Less aggressive than it used to be they turn to something that fulfills their need to be told what to do. If it wasnt for islam they would have joined another religion.   

More muslims are leaving islam. This is an easily observable fact. The fact that more people are converting to islam is just a conservative right wing tactic to create fear. Most of the islam conversion news are manufactured to get more conservatives to return to the churches in greater numbers.  "Since you live in canada you can see this for yourself. Go to colleges and see how the new generation of muslims act. Viaot athiest gatherings and you'll see that there are plenty of ex muslims who saw the truth about islams vile behaviour. Too bad your only outlet to the workd is the internet. Go to the corner at the eaton center and listen to the laughs as muslims try their best to get people to convert.  Most muslims dont even want to be part of islam. They play the part becuase of the fear islam instills and the repercussions for those who leave it.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 25, 2012, 05:56:53 PM
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2342/14000619451044955413564771461PdPiaAtBpnpjG9AarVQ.JPG)
 (http://www.picvalley.net/u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2065/2991444299397344551356477291l866GGfs00mLF2fRlotY.JPG)

this is fake...get your head out of your ass.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
So is your religion of peace. Get your head out of your ass achmutt.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 25, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
The only true converts to islam are people with severe psychological issues. You can see that in the way that they talk. They have the need to be controlled and since christianity is Less aggressive than it used to be they turn to something that fulfills their need to be told what to do. If it wasnt for islam they would have joined another religion.   

More muslims are leaving islam. This is an easily observable fact. The fact that more people are converting to islam is just a conservative right wing tactic to create fear. Most of the islam conversion news are manufactured to get more conservatives to return to the churches in greater numbers.  "Since you live in canada you can see this for yourself. Go to colleges and see how the new generation of muslims act. Viaot athiest gatherings and you'll see that there are plenty of ex muslims who saw the truth about islams vile behaviour. Too bad your only outlet to the workd is the internet. Go to the corner at the eaton center and listen to the laughs as muslims try their best to get people to convert.  Most muslims dont even want to be part of islam. They play the part becuase of the fear islam instills and the repercussions for those who leave it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZOxddqjjw



Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 25, 2012, 06:15:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZOxddqjjw



Ooooh more videos? Can i go get some too so we can play video games?
Its so much fun destroying your weak arguments made by both your accounts. :D


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: L00n on December 25, 2012, 11:47:13 PM
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Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: D_1000 on December 26, 2012, 02:31:04 AM
I feel sorry for you, old chap.

One day you can open your eyes and realize what you have been fed. Make today be that date.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 26, 2012, 09:49:51 AM
One day you can open your eyes and realize what you have been fed. Make today be that date.

the proof is all around you. I mean how much more proof do you need? YOUR the one with the blindfold on. Go do some research, make today be that date


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Man of Steel on December 26, 2012, 10:27:07 AM
Many Christians have converted to Islam and many Muslims have converted to Christianity.  There are more videos on youtube about both types of conversions than I have fingers and toes to count.   That said, go out to youtube and enjoy them!!


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 26, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZAhfvEFvTI


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 02:15:31 PM
Many Christians have converted to Islam and many Muslims have converted to Christianity.  There are more videos on youtube about both types of conversions than I have fingers and toes to count.   That said, go out to youtube and enjoy them!!

There ya go. Of course achmutt/truelygay69 would dismiss and muslims converting to christianity and cheer the opposite.

He sees only what he wants to see and all his information comes from radical8islamic sites where its normal practice to dismiss anything that doesnt fall into the confines of islam.


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
the proof is all around you. I mean how much more proof do you need? YOUR the one with the blindfold on. Go do some research, make today be that date

What proof? The book written eons ago? Yeah thats all the proof ypu need. ::)


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: stingray on December 26, 2012, 03:09:24 PM
the proof is all around you. I mean how much more proof do you need? YOUR the one with the blindfold on. Go do some research, make today be that date

Atheists have done there research, cant you see.

Beleive in no god, but beleive in jesus.der.


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
A planned 10,000-capacity ‘mega mosque’ in East London is under consideration by city authorities as locals mount a campaign to halt construction amid fears it will become a hotbed of Islamic extremism.
The gigantic mosque, four times the size of St. Paul’s Cathedral, will sport towering 40-foot minarets, an Islamic library, sports facilities and eight apartments.
Planning permission for the place of worship is being considered by Newham Council, despite controversy and fierce opposition from the local community, including many Muslims.
The plans were submitted by Tablighi Jamaat, a Muslim missionary movement, which some have described as an ‘antechamber of fundamentalism’.
Critics claim the Islamic group preaches separatism and segregation. Two of the July 7, 2005, London bombers – Shehzad Tanweer and Mohammad Sidique Khan – are believed to have prayed at a Tablighi mosque in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, before committing their terror attack.
They teach that if you want to be a good Muslim you must separate off from non-Muslims…It's only Tablighi Jamaat – of all the Islamic groups – that has created ghettos over in Toronto, in Canada. They're all around the world, this is a huge group and wherever they go they create barriers, hostility, division, they create separatism," Alan Craig, campaign director of ‘Mega Mosque No Thanks,’ which is actively opposing its construction, told RT.
If given the go-ahead, the massive mosque could be the first Sharia-law-controlled area in Britain. Many East Londoners are worried that flouts Prime Minster David Cameron’s policy of a multicultural Britain that embraces all ethnic groups.
“The grounds on which they're trying to set-up here in Britain are anti-British, anti-Western. This is not just going to be a Mosque – this is going to be a centre of training, where they are going to try to reach out to Islamist Muslims. To harden up and medieval-ize the Islam of ordinary Muslims in this country. And I meet so many Muslims, who don't want that," journalist and cultural analyst Dr. Jenny Taylor, founder of religious literacy consulting group Lapido Media, explained to RT.

That view is shared by many Muslims in East London. Asqhar Bukhari, a spokesperson for the UK branch of the Muslim Public Affairs Committee, told RT, “Muslims themselves oppose this mosque. Not on the grounds that, they don't want to worship their God, but on the grounds that women aren't allowed, the local population, the Muslim population, has no say in how the mosque itself is governed."
The proposal has sparked intense opposition in the years since the plans were first submitted in 1999.
In 2001, Tablighi Jamaat agreed worship would only be on a temporary basis at the site of the proposed mosque. In 2010, Newham Council issued an enforcement notice, but Tablighi successfully appealed it in 2011 and now more than 5,000 people worship at the ramshackle site every week.
The plans had initially included a provision for retail units and 300 houses, which were shelved in place of the mega mosque. The Muslim community refused to allow their donations to contribute to commercial businesses.
Newham Council, which received the proposal from Tablighi on September 5, 2012, issued a statement in response: “We can confirm we have received a planning application. As this is currently being processed it would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage.”
The Mega Mosque No Thanks website contains a checklist for mobilizing activists, including signing an e-petition on the government’s website and contacting local MPs.
Craig explained to RT, “If this went ahead it would be like a tipping point – there will be no stopping fundamentalist Islam. If that happens – well we'd all need to leave the county."


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Atheists have done there research, cant you see.

Beleive in no god, but beleive in jesus.der.

Thats one of the stupidest things i've read. Then again you dont come across as someone with any intelligence.

Let me set you straight
I defend christians on this board because they at least conduct themselves in a civil manner. They arent trying to start shit with other religions or to claim they are superior.  This has nothing to do with god or jesus.

Is the getbig islamic faction angry that no one respects them after they engage in bully tactics?  Shocking.
you want to engage in a civilized discussion fine but when you start insulting other religions and their faiths dont expect everyone to stand by and let you continue unchallenged.


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 26, 2012, 06:01:42 PM
There ya go. Of course achmutt/truelygay69 would dismiss and muslims converting to christianity and cheer the opposite.

He sees only what he wants to see and all his information comes from radical8islamic sites where its normal practice to dismiss anything that doesnt fall into the confines of islam.

I see the truth. you dont. you can live in your fantasy world son keep dreaming, keep lying, I know islam an the truth makes you shit yourself, the TURH HURTS. you only hate muslims becuase they bring you the cold hard truth and shove it in your ugly face! you can run and hide Stefano, but when death comes its too late to change! what you do in this life will effect how you spend the next.



Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 26, 2012, 06:14:23 PM
Thats one of the stupidest things i've read. Then again you dont come across as someone with any intelligence.

Let me set you straight
I defend christians on this board because they at least conduct themselves in a civil manner. They arent trying to start shit with other religions or to claim they are superior.  This has nothing to do with god or jesus.

Is the getbig islamic faction angry that no one respects them after they engage in bully tactics?  Shocking.
you want to engage in a civilized discussion fine but when you start insulting other religions and their faiths dont expect everyone to stand by and let you continue unchallenged.


We are the most civil on the board! lol, its losers like you who kept slandering islam an being uncivil!.

Also bullying  ::) ::) LOL!   we give you the truth! we give you evidence, since thats a bitter pill, you get angry! you hate the truth, so you say "oh their bullying"! THE TRUTH HURTS! keep losing sleep over the truth! keep thinkin of ways to set the truth aside! but as they say the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE  :-* :-* :-*

you want to talk about challenges? LOL more like Muslims are standing up to YOUR potshots and challanges! your like the bully that gets his ass kicked then goes crying and tells the teacher, pretending to be the victim! when all along HE was the one talking trash, until someone came and gave his own medicine.

like I said, you losing ground Stefano, your losing the battle!! you better get on your REAL account and get some back-up.

Keep thinking about us, I know we make you lose sleep  :-* :-* :-*

I know the truth hurts you Stefano!


Title: Re: awesome-vid check this out.
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
We are the most civil on the board! lol, its losers like you who kept slandering islam an being uncivil!.

Also bullying  ::) ::) LOL!   we give you the truth! we give you evidence, since thats a bitter pill, you get angry! you hate the truth, so you say "oh their bullying"! THE TRUTH HURTS! keep losing sleep over the truth! keep thinkin of ways to set the truth aside! but as they say the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE  :-* :-* :-*

you want to talk about challenges? LOL more like Muslims are standing up to YOUR potshots and challanges! your like the bully that gets his ass kicked then goes crying and tells the teacher, pretending to be the victim! when all along HE was the one talking trash, until someone came and gave his own medicine.

like I said, you losing ground Stefano, your losing the battle!! you better get on your REAL account and get some back-up.

Keep thinking about us, I know we make you lose sleep  :-* :-* :-*

I know the truth hurts you Stefano!

Bwahahaa You sound like you're delirious. Put down the hashish pipe before you type. With every post you're revealing your desperation.

Funny how that teacher comment applies to you achmutt since you were the one who started this anti chrisitian routine way before i even posted here. Ypu can't debate with me so you run screaming for help to the mods. I've exposed all your lies and niw you have nothing left. So sit there and whimper away.

Lot at the truth comment. You wonuldnt know the truth if you were beaten over the head with it. Actually most of the board has already done that ;D

Have fun switching accounts trying to recover lost ground. You would have made a great iraqi minister of interior :)


Title: Re: eye opening Video. dosent matter if your muslim or not, just watch!
Post by: Stefano on December 26, 2012, 07:00:38 PM
I see the truth. you dont. you can live in your fantasy world son keep dreaming, keep lying, I know islam an the truth makes you shit yourself, the TURH HURTS. you only hate muslims becuase they bring you the cold hard truth and shove it in your ugly face! you can run and hide Stefano, but when death comes its too late to change! what you do in this life will effect how you spend the next.



Boring.
Skip the religious psychobabble and the frantic desperation.
Tell me how you really feel? ;)

So far i havent seen any truth from getbigs muslims just radical nonsense that is just laughable.....just like your desperate posts achmutt. Isn't it time to log in as achmutt?





Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 26, 2012, 09:26:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jvh3BNsSkM


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: a_ahmed on December 26, 2012, 09:27:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjoUSsnev-k


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 29, 2012, 07:27:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUm7GBilQ0w


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KnRS9v4qg


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 30, 2012, 10:29:22 AM
Good work Ahmed, keep posting vids, I enjoy watching them and I am sure others do to.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 07:07:32 PM
My mother's mother initially would not talk to my mother, but alhamdulillah now they have become interested more in islam as my mom is trying to educate my grandmother on Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlIIV5SMcWg


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on December 30, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
My mother's mother initially would not talk to my mother, but alhamdulillah now they have become interested more in islam as my mom is trying to educate brainwash my grandmother on Islam

Maybe the easily manipulated Gene skipped your grandmother!  Just wait until your grandmother suffers dementia, and then ramming your nonsense down her throat will be easier, you can then tell her she is deluded, and that she has been a Muslim all her life,


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 08:28:25 PM
Please keep your sick and mentally disturbed self out of this thread. And don't talk about my grandmother or family. You should be the one talking. Your father abused you and molested you as a child and you yourself are a sick product despite being now 40+ years of age and only infested with sick and evil thinking.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on December 30, 2012, 08:37:11 PM
Please keep your sick and mentally disturbed self out of this thread. And don't talk about my grandmother or family. You should be the one talking. Your father abused you and molested you as a child and you yourself are a sick product despite being now 40+ years of age and only infested with sick and evil thinking.
Your anger is a testament to how lowly evolved Muslims are,  I remember when you at least used to try and hold it all together, now you just openly melt down, spew out bile and lies and show the true colours of the average devout Muslim.  It is no surprise to me that you finally exposed yourself as the angry lying hypocrite that Muslims almost always indeed are, You insult my family, but think somehow your family is off limits, Crazy Muslims, their lack of self awareness is disturbing.  It pleases me that you are no longer putting on the façade that most Muslims do of being some righteous pious Muslim and have now before comfortable expressing your hate and anger that the majority of Muslims feel. (This gives a chance for others to see Muslims for what they really are, Muslim anger may be dangerous to the community, but at least it is Genuine). All you need now is to find a group of like minded angry Muslims (shouldn't be too hard), create a "BEHEAD all INFIDELS" sign, and then go to a nice quiet neighbourhood and protest loudly and collectively get even more worked up.  Make sure you take Granny so she can see how the Muslims like to roll, it may be this side of Islam that really appeals to her.  Say Hi to your Grandma for me.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 09:03:31 PM
Are you kidding me? Are you demanding respect? Respect is earned, and quite frankly with all the insults, hatred, mockery, and outright rage you have spewed, spilled and thrown at Muslims, Islam and myself. Do you honestly think I will respond to you with a generous response? You are the one that has 'melt down' in dozens of threads that simply try to show what Islam believes. You are an angry, hateful and evil person.

Here I am in this thread, no ill towards anyone, and you jump in here to insult my mother and insult my grandmother with your demented hate. You deserve not an atom's worth of respect. And in equity I responded to what you, your father and the product that you have turned out to be and are.

May God guide you from the evil contempt and hatred that is instilled with you from childhood. But until then, it changes nothing as your behavior is disgusting. You are an angry and ignorant douchebag.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on December 30, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
Are you kidding me? Are you demanding respect? Respect is earned, and quite frankly with all the insults, hatred, mockery, and outright rage you have spewed, spilled and thrown at Muslims, Islam and myself. Do you honestly think I will respond to you with a generous response? You are the one that has 'melt down' in dozens of threads that simply try to show what Islam believes. You are an angry, hateful and evil person.

Here I am in this thread, no ill towards anyone, and you jump in here to insult my mother and insult my grandmother with your demented hate. You deserve not an atom's worth of respect. And in equity I responded to what you, your father and the product that you have turned out to be and are.

May God guide you from the evil contempt and hatred that is instilled with you from childhood. But until then, it changes nothing as your behavior is disgusting.
I don't demand anything, that's what MUSLIMS do remember, they demand others respect their rapist pedo prophet, they demand others respect their HATE FILLED VIOLENT ideology, they demand good communities everywhere tolerate their violence, their anger, their hatred, their delusions and their LIES.  The last thing I would ever want, is for people who follow such an evil ideology to respect me.   You seem to be unaware that you have tried to force your lies and propaganda down everyone's throats here AND even though they have repeatedly told you they are not interested, like the typical Muslim, you than blame others for criticising you, all you had to do, is listen to those when they said, stop being obnoxious, offensive and force feeding your nonsense to those who aren't interested, but you couldn't help yourself, your brainwashing was too deep, and now you are considered just another CRAZY MUSLIM, it is Good you are showing your true colours though, that way people can truly see what ISLAM really is.  This is the TRUTH about ISLAM, first Muslims will try and convert you with a false piousness and demeanour, they will praise you every time you fall for the next piece of their propaganda, but once they realise you are not interested, and actually find their ideology comparable to NAZISM, they will direct intense Hatred towards you, they will lie and cheat and if they have a chance, they would strike you down and kill you if they could.  Your regular displays of ANGER and HATRED is all the public needs to see to realise what ISLAM is truly about, thank-you at last for finally exposing the TRUTH abut the sick ideology you believe in and for giving up the pretence of being a decent human being.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 30, 2012, 09:48:55 PM
I don't demand anything, that's what MUSLIMS do remember, they demand others respect their rapist pedo prophet, they demand others respect their HATE FILLED VIOLENT ideology, they demand good communities everywhere tolerate their violence, their anger, their hatred, their delusions and their LIES.  The last thing I would ever want, is for people who follow such an evil ideology to respect me.   You seem to be unaware that you have tried to force your lies and propaganda down everyone's throats here AND even though they have repeatedly told you they are not interested, like the typical Muslim, you than blame others for criticising you, all you had to do, is listen to those when they said, stop being obnoxious, offensive and force feeding your nonsense to those who aren't interested, but you couldn't help yourself, your brainwashing was too deep, and now you are considered just another CRAZY MUSLIM, it is Good you are showing your true colours though, that way people can truly see what ISLAM really is.  This is the TRUTH about ISLAM, first Muslims will try and convert you with a false piousness and demeanour, they will praise you every time you fall for the next piece of their propaganda, but once they realise you are not interested, and actually find their ideology comparable to NAZISM, they will direct intense Hatred towards you, they will lie and cheat and if they have a chance, they would strike you down and kill you if they could.  Your regular displays of ANGER and HATRED is all the public needs to see to realise what ISLAM is truly about, thank-you at last for finally exposing the TRUTH abut the sick ideology you believe in and for giving up the pretence of being a decent human being.

HAHAHA look whos talking! E-kul the talking peice of crap! Your nothing but an angry, lonely middle aged failure. Even animals know your trash! thats why those Pitbulls came after you! they wanted to clean their surrounding of SCUM.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
I don't have hatred for you because you are a non-muslim. Not at all. I was a non-muslim. Many people in my family are still non-muslims. Islam does not teach us to hate, but to tolerate and deal with wisely. Only a brainwashed and angry individual like yourself would blindly believe that we are out to 'get them non mozzlems'.

If I have any hatred it is hatred towards the disgust of your behavior, speech and manners. Your spewing of lies and propaganda against Islam and Muslims. Do you not see the irony in your last few posts where you attack my grandmother and mother, mention 'brainwashing' when it is merely educating. People are ignorant about Islam and are brainwashed like you are to hate Islam even though you don't have a frickin clue what you're talking about and just repeating what you heard from idiot islamophobes that make it a business and profit to slander Islam and Muslims.

If we muslims were 'spreading lies' to 'convert people' don't you think it would 'backfire' as it would mean that we are not telling the TRUTH about what our religion is and thus people would instantly leave. It makes no sense. The message of God is for all mankind and in truth.

Only a false religion would need lies to gain numbers. Instead Islam does not change and despite all the animosity, lies and hatred REMAINS unchanged for all time. We stand firm and of principle of what our religion teaches us EVEN IF you hate it and we will not change it just because you hate it. Is that not proof enough who really is the liar and who is the truthful? And despite this fact, people are STILL becoming Muslims and remaining Muslims despite all the odds of dealing with people such as yourself. Despite the 'ease' of doing 'whatever you want' in the liberal societies, people are choosing to obey and submit to God.

My mother remains a Muslim despite her mother mistreating her in ignorance (and that was short lived. The cure to ignorance is knowledge and when my grandparents learned more from Islam and saw from how my mother still treated them with respect they saw the truth in Islam although they are still not Muslims themselves. We accept our submission to God and not to human beings.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 10:12:29 PM
HAHAHA look whos talking! E-kul the talking peice of crap! Your nothing but an angry, lonely middle aged failure. Even animals know your trash! thats why those Pitbulls came after you! they wanted to clean their surrounding of SCUM.

Don't let his sociopathic and psychopathic insults and degenerative comments anger you. It angers me too to see such filth coming out of his speech but don't let that lead to us Muslims speaking on his level. At times I respond to him in equity, but we must remind each other and correct each other and try to be steadfast despite the many people's animosity on here.

They have foul speech often times, but we mustn't let it brush off on us, I know I'm not perfect either but let us remind each other as Muslims to try our best to follow the example of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who never swore or used foul language. Remind me as well inshAllah.

O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. 5:8


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 30, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y-7O_JvxGg

Ahmed watch this! this was the most moving and powerful video i have EVER SEEN.take a look bro


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 30, 2012, 10:15:08 PM
InshAllah bro, I will check it out tomorrow. Going to sleep now. Assaalmu Alaikum.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 30, 2012, 10:29:13 PM
Don't let his sociopathic and psychopathic insults and degenerative comments anger you. It angers me too to see such filth coming out of his speech but don't let that lead to us Muslims speaking on his level. At times I respond to him in equity, but we must remind each other and correct each other and try to be steadfast despite the many people's animosity on here.

They have foul speech often times, but we mustn't let it brush off on us, I know I'm not perfect either but let us remind each other as Muslims to try our best to follow the example of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who never swore or used foul language. Remind me as well inshAllah.

O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. 5:8



Brother, I commend your patience! I try my friend, I try, but somtimes you know, guys like E-kul boil my blood and almost everyone else on Getbig muslim or not!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on December 30, 2012, 10:50:46 PM
Please keep your sick and mentally disturbed self out of this thread. And don't talk about my grandmother or family. You should be the one talking. Your father abused you and molested you as a child and you yourself are a sick product despite being now 40+ years of age and only infested with sick and evil thinking.

Agree.

The guy is a poor ambassador to the atheist religion


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on December 31, 2012, 10:35:52 AM
InshAllah bro, I will check it out tomorrow. Going to sleep now. Assaalmu Alaikum.
Why do you continue to abuse drugs?



Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: 24KT on December 31, 2012, 11:25:30 AM

They teach that if you want to be a good Muslim you must separate off from non-Muslims…It's only Tablighi Jamaat – of all the Islamic groups – that has created ghettos over in Toronto, in Canada. They're all around the world, this is a huge group and wherever they go they create barriers, hostility, division, they create separatism," Alan Craig, campaign director of ‘Mega Mosque No Thanks,’ which is actively opposing its construction, told RT.

Ghettos in Toronto? I don't think that's quite accurate.  :-\


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 12:14:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILp4WFQG6M


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 12:34:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05A-xg1UjEY


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 31, 2012, 05:54:14 PM
Hey E-Kul, you seem to love demented pictures.

Btw, I am still proudly Muslim after watching your pathetic video :)

Black Americans are also rapidly embracing Islam, it is the white men of America that oppressed the black man.

Dont mind E-kul... he has no clue.

the FIRST man, the VERY FIRST man who called the people to prayer was who? a man named Bilal who was BLACK. infact one of the reasons Malcom X became muslim was becuase when he went to Hajj he say white blue eye people praying and mixing with Black africans with even a single problem or form of racism.

E-Kul....try again.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
People who have become Muslim...Are foolish.  They follow an evil woman hating, pedophile. 

But wait!  He rode a middle eastern version of Pegasus!  How cool is that?  Not very, actually. 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 07:18:04 PM
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefor listen to what I am saying to you very carefully & TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O people, just as you regard this month, this city as sacred, so regard the life & property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury(Interest), therefor all Interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity.

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O people it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your waives only under ALLAH's trust & with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed & clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well & be kind to them for they are your partners & committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friendship with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O people, listen to me earnest, worship your LORD, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadan, & give your wealth to Zakat(Charity). Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind are from Adam & Eve, an Arab has no Superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has superiority over an Arab;ALSO a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety & good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to another Muslim & that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow muslim unless it was given freely & willingly. Do not therefor, do unjustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before the GOD & answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O people, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME & NO FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefor, O people, understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, The QURAN & my examples the Sunnah & if you follow these you will never go astray.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s last sermon


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 07:20:50 PM
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefor listen to what I am saying to you very carefully & TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O people, just as you regard this month, this city as sacred, so regard the life & property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury(Interest), therefor all Interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity.

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O people it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your waives only under ALLAH's trust & with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed & clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well & be kind to them for they are your partners & committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friendship with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O people, listen to me earnest, worship your LORD, say your five daily prayers, fast during the month of Ramadan, & give your wealth to Zakat(Charity). Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind are from Adam & Eve, an Arab has no Superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has superiority over an Arab;ALSO a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety & good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to another Muslim & that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow muslim unless it was given freely & willingly. Do not therefor, do unjustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before the GOD & answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O people, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME & NO FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefor, O people, understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, The QURAN & my examples the Sunnah & if you follow these you will never go astray.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s last sermon

Is that when he got on his flying "my little pony"?  Get real. 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
So you're yet another gimmick lol. Why so much anger?

All the prophets had revelations through dreams, many did through angels, especially gabriel when it was of much importance. What's so upsetting to you about this? Or certain people were raised up to heaven not just Jesus. Idris (Enoch).

Muhammad (pbuh) was brought up to witness the other prophets and messengers, to get a decree from God almighty.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 07:28:25 PM
So you're yet another gimmick lol. Why so much anger?

All the prophets had revelations through dreams, many did through angels, especially gabriel when it was of much importance. What's so upsetting to you about this?

I'm far from upset.  You just do not care for the truth.  "Gimmick"?  You sad, cowardly child of iniquity.  When you were a wee laddie, did you have a toy version of Mohammed's flying "My Little Pony"?  Nice fairy tale for baby Muslims.   Kinda like Santa Claus for Muslim children.  And you make fun of Santa? 



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
Actually I was playing under a Christmas tree as a 'young lad' but then again I knew very little about history, religion, etc... as a child. I know you're fuming but there's no need.

Christmas is indeed pagan and has absolutely NOTING to do with Jesus (peace be upon him). Just relabelled packaging saturnalia christmas and Saturn "Christ".

Jesus would certainly not approve of pagan festivities. After all it is the romans that were oppressing the Jews.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 07:41:08 PM
Actually I was playing under a Christmas tree as a 'young lad' but then again I knew very little about history, religion, etc... as a child. I know you're fuming but there's no need.

Christmas is indeed pagan and has absolutely NOTING to do with Jesus (peace be upon him). Just relabelled packaging saturnalia christmas and Saturn "Christ".

Jesus would certainly not approve of pagan festivities. After all it is the romans that were oppressing the Jews.

Sorry, faux child of initquity.  You are ill equipped to deal with a Christian that knows the Gospel and could care less about the state of your filty soul.  As I have said before, i am not here to make any wear shoes.  Just as the soles of your feet are dirty with the dust of  your ignorance, so too is your soul soiled by your life.  I shake the dust of you from my shoes. 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 07:44:54 PM
So why do you carry dust on your shoes all the time? Were you in the desert?

It's kinda lame to throw dust at others when you're the one in deep tutu yourself.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Mathew 7:3

lol@ill equiped and deal with a christian who knows the gospel. Yeah I can tell.

You speak like the angry Jews that oppressed Jesus rather than Jesus. Filled with pride, arrogance, hate and anger when faced with God's clear and simple message.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
So why do you carry dust on your shoes all the time? Were you in the desert?

It's kinda lame to throw dust at others when you're the one in deep tutu yourself.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? Mathew 7:3

lol@ill equiped and deal with a christian who knows the gospel. Yeah I can tell.

You speak like the angry Jews that oppressed Jesus rather than Jesus. Filled with pride, arrogance, hate and anger when faced with God's clear and simple message.

You really are dumb.  I should have known that you would be, being Muslim after all is not for either the most intelligent nor humane of humanity.  I bite my thumb at you. 

That is Shakespearean.  Not "shakes spear at him".   ::)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
Actually you will mostly find emotional people turning to Christianity, while you will find western university educated individuals embracing Islam after doing their research, introspection, studying, etc...


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on December 31, 2012, 08:05:57 PM
Actually you will mostly find emotional people turning to Christianity, while you will find western university educated individuals embracing Islam after doing their research, introspection, studying, etc...

Actually, I find you to be stupid in an intredasting way. 


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: TrueBB93 on December 31, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
Actually, I find you to be stupid in an intredasting way saying the truth.

thats more like it! ;)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on December 31, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww34/norsemannord/Intredasting.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 09:32:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPSMKqR9rW8


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 09:57:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OYWxPQT8o


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSJfbflScw


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 12:02:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWLXqD5IzxU


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 04:17:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1isMP7UZV6g


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 01, 2013, 04:24:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNZ1wLq65Og


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 01, 2013, 04:33:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeVsK5ZXXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGdo-PcXKQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yehjBDgjsMw


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 02, 2013, 05:35:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWLXqD5IzxU
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?

That's not very merciful.



Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on January 02, 2013, 05:35:58 AM
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ”  ― Sigmund Freud


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 02, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?

That's not very merciful.


I'm not a Muslim, but I tend to question why God's empowered creation allows it's own millions to starve, suffer and die when we've all been given the tools and resources (by God) to prevent such tragedy?   Making God the scapegoat in order to ignore our own accountability doesn't seem right to me, but it sure is convenient!  


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 02, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
"Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allâh will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allâh knows all that before putting them to test)". (Al-Ankaboot : 2-3)

{We will certainly test you with something of fear and hunger, and loss of wealth and lives and fruits (earnings); but give glad tidings to the persevering and patient, those who, when a disaster befalls them, say, "Surely we belong to God (as His creatures and servants) and surely to Him we are bound to return" (And they act accordingly.)} (Al-Baqarah 2:155-7)

{And how many a Prophet has had to fight (for God’s cause), followed by numbers of godly, dedicated servants of God; and they did not become faint of heart for all that befell them in God’s cause, nor did they weaken, nor did they abase themselves (before the enemy). And God loves the patient and steadfast.} (Al Imran 3:146)

Verily, We created man from a drop of mingled sperm so that We may test him; and therefore We made him hearing and seeing. We have indeed showed him the way, now he be grateful or ungrateful. (Al-Insaan 76:2-3)

{And hasten, as if competing with one another, to forgiveness from your Lord, and to a Garden as spacious as the heavens and the earth, prepared for the God-revering, pious.} (Al Imran 3:133)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 09:46:59 AM
Why did super duper allah let millions of children starve to death last year?

That's not very merciful.



it is indeed merciful, Allah tests people, sometime in extreme opposite ways. A very poor person and a very rich person, are both being tested. the rich bcome arrogant and greedy, not giving chairity or refusing to give up power(look at dicators of middle east) and rather kill people to stay on power...ect

poor people in ISLAM have a high status. the poor will enter paradise far before the rich and powerful(kings, politicans).

anytime a person struggles, even if its a headache or somthing as big as Hunger,starvation poverty,cancer ...ect erases sins


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Man of Steel on January 02, 2013, 09:49:08 AM
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ”  ― Sigmund Freud
Organized religion isn't a prerequisite for salvation through Christ...it's a free gift to all.  The Holy Spirit is made manifest in the lives of believers and tranforms lives even today!!  Sigmund Freud was just a simple man and no amount of psychoanalysis will allow one to esacpe the Lord's purview.  Saying something is illusory doesn't make it so, but experiencing a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit will easily refute Freud's casual dismissal of a transcendent God. 


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 02, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
it is indeed merciful, Allah tests people, sometime in extreme opposite ways. A very poor person and a very rich person, are both being tested. the rich bcome arrogant and greedy, not giving chairity or refusing to give up power(look at dicators of middle east) and rather kill people to stay on power...ect

poor people in ISLAM have a high status. the poor will enter paradise far before the rich and powerful(kings, politicans).

anytime a person struggles, even if its a headache or somthing as big as Hunger,starvation poverty,cancer ...ect erases sins


See True, you had me right up until your last statement.  That simple statement contradicts the core and essence of Christ and salvation.  The idea that our human sufferings or human works erase our sin is not in biblical scripture (OT or NT) and is certainly not of our God, Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  It stands in opposition to Jesus and anything that stands opposed to Christ is not of God.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 02, 2013, 10:17:52 AM
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’Matthew 7:21-23

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...James 2:14-26

Islam also teaches that we enter heaven by God's mercy and not our deeds. However we will be judged by our deeds as well. Islam teaches responsibility and justice.

Also everyone will have a different status in heaven by what they earned in this life, but no one will have envy or jealousy of one another. By our efforts will we achieve a greater status in heaven. The highest status being the highest level of heaven called janatul firdous. Which is where all the prophets, messengers, martyrs and people of highest piety will be in the literal presence of God. The other places in heaven will be amazing as well and no one will feel envy of those who are in a greater status in heaven nor feel such but it is our goal to be in the presence of God almighty at all times, what an honor.

Two different things being treated as equal is a form of injustice.

A person who does good and a person who does evil are not equal. Although God is merciful to mankind, God is also just.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 02, 2013, 10:26:21 AM
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’Matthew 7:21-23

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. ...James 2:14-26

Islam also teaches that we enter heaven by God's mercy and not our deeds. However we will be judged by our deeds as well. Islam teaches responsibility and justice.

Also everyone will have a different status in heaven by what they earned in this life, but no one will have envy or jealousy of one another. By our efforts will we achieve a greater status in heaven. The highest status being the highest level of heaven called janatul firdous. Which is where all the prophets, messengers, martyrs and people of highest piety will be in the literal presence of God. The other places in heaven will be amazing as well and no one will feel envy of those who are in a greater status in heaven nor feel such but it is our goal to be in the presence of God almighty, what an honor.

Two different things being treated as equal is a form of injustice.

A person who does good and a person who does evil are not equal. Although God is merciful to mankind, God is also just.
I'll explain those verses to you later ahmed and I'll add the all important context to them!!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 02, 2013, 10:27:46 AM
lol...

The difference between what you believe and what we believe is that:

We believe: we enter heaven by God's mercy first and foremost nto our deeds. However that we are to compete for good works, we'll be judged by our good and evil deeds. God is merciful but also JUST, so those that are evil will be punished for their evil but depending on what it is God can forgive them as he is the most merciful and knows what's in everyone's hearts, their conditions and their situations. Certain people of faith will be thrown into hellfire to be cleansed for the evil they did but as they believed in God with no partners they will be eventually taken out of hellfire and be granted heaven. However people who do not believe in God, reject God, who worship the creation will be in the hellfire for eternity.

You believe: Accept Jesus as god, you are saved, live your life maybe do good things just because its good but don't worry you'll enter heaven just because you accept jesus as god. Those who reject Jesus as god they go to hell.

Inequity and injustice. To top it off, not following God's law, corruption ensues as can be seen in the christian world, misguidance ensues as can be seen in the christian world. Everyone does whatever they want and they believe they are 'saved'.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
lol...

The difference between what you believe and what we believe is that:

We believe: we enter heaven by God's mercy first and foremost nto our deeds. However that we are to compete for good works, we'll be judged by our good and evil deeds. God is merciful but also JUST, so those that are evil will be punished for their evil but depending on what it is God can forgive them as he is the most merciful and knows what's in everyone's hearts, their conditions and their situations. Certain people of faith will be thrown into hellfire to be cleansed for the evil they did but as they believed in God with no partners they will be eventually taken out of hellfire and be granted heaven. However people who do not believe in God, reject God, who worship the creation will be in the hellfire for eternity.

You believe: Accept Jesus as god, you are saved, live your life maybe do good things just because its good but don't worry you'll enter heaven just because you accept jesus as god. Those who reject Jesus as god they go to hell.

Inequity and injustice. To top it off, not following God's law, corruption ensues as can be seen in the christian world, misguidance ensues as can be seen in the christian world. Everyone does whatever they want and they believe they are 'saved'.

Right! this is the truth in the most simple and boiled down form.

God forgives ALL sins, except associating partners with him.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 02, 2013, 04:04:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHDE8V--KOo

Published on 14 Apr 2012
*** Update: Young Bara'ah has passed away. May Allah SWTA join her with her mother and father in the highest levels of Jannah. Ameen.

This is the recitation of Bara'ah, a 10 year old girl diagnosed with Cancer. She is reciting from Surah Saffaat, Ayahs 83-102.

Here is her story:

Bara'ah is a 10 year old who finished memorizing the whole Qur'an with Tajweed. Her parents were doctors who moved to Saudi Arabia in search of better life. Bara'ah was very intelligent. Her teacher used to tell her that she should be in middle school not primary school.

Her family was small and committed to Islam and its teachings. One day, her mother began experiencing severe abdominal pain. After going to the hospital and diagnostics tests and imaging performed, it was discovered that she had cancer, but in its late stages.

The mother thought she should tell her daughter, especially if she wakes up one day and didn't find her mother beside her. Being at the young tender age of 10, her mother told her: "Bara`ah, I will go to paradise ahead of you, but I want you to read the Quran you memorized every day since it will protect you in this life."

The little girl didn't really understand what her mother was trying to tell her, but she began feeling the change in her mother's status. Soon, her mother was was transferred to stay in the hospital on a permanent basis. Bara'ah used to come to the hospital after school and recite the Quran for her mother until the evening when her father would take her home.

One day the hospital called the husband and informed him that the his wife's condition had deteriorated and that it would be advisable to come to the hospital immediately. The father picked up Bara`ah from school and headed to the hospital. When they arrived, he asked her to stay in the car so he could first see what the condition of his wife was.

The father got out of the car with tears filled in his eyes. While crossing the road to enter the hospital, he was hit by a speeding car and died in front of his daughter who came crying to her father.

The tragedy of Bar`ah is not over yet. The news of her father's death was hidden from the mother. Her condition steadily worsened, and 5 days later, she passed away leaving Bar`ah alone without her parents. Her parents' friends decided to find her relatives in Egypt so that they could take care of her.

Soon thereafter, Bara`ah began having severe pain, similar to what her mother experienced. At the hospital, she too was diagnosed with cancer. At the surprise of everyone she said, "Alhamdulillah, now I will meet my parents."

All of the family friends were shocked at her response. This little girl, being faced with calamity after calamity, yet she remained patient and satisfied with what Allah ordained for her!

The news of Bara'ah and her story spread. One Saudi heard of her story and decided to take care of her. He sent her to the UK to receive the appropriate treatment for her condition.

In the UK, her condition worsened and the cancer spread throughout her body with metastasis in multiple organs. The doctors had to amputate her legs, yet she still remained patient. Soon, the cancer spread to her brain the doctors had to do brain surgery. Bara'ah went into a full coma.

Before she went into coma, one of the Islamic channels (Al Hafiz - The protector) got in contact with this little girl and asked her to recite the Qur'an. This video is of her beautiful recitation of Surah Saffaat.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 04:41:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHDE8V--KOo

Published on 14 Apr 2012
*** Update: Young Bara'ah has passed away. May Allah SWTA join her with her mother and father in the highest levels of Jannah. Ameen.

This is the recitation of Bara'ah, a 10 year old girl diagnosed with Cancer. She is reciting from Surah Saffaat, Ayahs 83-102.

Here is her story:

Bara'ah is a 10 year old who finished memorizing the whole Qur'an with Tajweed. Her parents were doctors who moved to Saudi Arabia in search of better life. Bara'ah was very intelligent. Her teacher used to tell her that she should be in middle school not primary school.

Her family was small and committed to Islam and its teachings. One day, her mother began experiencing severe abdominal pain. After going to the hospital and diagnostics tests and imaging performed, it was discovered that she had cancer, but in its late stages.

The mother thought she should tell her daughter, especially if she wakes up one day and didn't find her mother beside her. Being at the young tender age of 10, her mother told her: "Bara`ah, I will go to paradise ahead of you, but I want you to read the Quran you memorized every day since it will protect you in this life."

The little girl didn't really understand what her mother was trying to tell her, but she began feeling the change in her mother's status. Soon, her mother was was transferred to stay in the hospital on a permanent basis. Bara'ah used to come to the hospital after school and recite the Quran for her mother until the evening when her father would take her home.

One day the hospital called the husband and informed him that the his wife's condition had deteriorated and that it would be advisable to come to the hospital immediately. The father picked up Bara`ah from school and headed to the hospital. When they arrived, he asked her to stay in the car so he could first see what the condition of his wife was.

The father got out of the car with tears filled in his eyes. While crossing the road to enter the hospital, he was hit by a speeding car and died in front of his daughter who came crying to her father.

The tragedy of Bar`ah is not over yet. The news of her father's death was hidden from the mother. Her condition steadily worsened, and 5 days later, she passed away leaving Bar`ah alone without her parents. Her parents' friends decided to find her relatives in Egypt so that they could take care of her.

Soon thereafter, Bara`ah began having severe pain, similar to what her mother experienced. At the hospital, she too was diagnosed with cancer. At the surprise of everyone she said, "Alhamdulillah, now I will meet my parents."

All of the family friends were shocked at her response. This little girl, being faced with calamity after calamity, yet she remained patient and satisfied with what Allah ordained for her!

The news of Bara'ah and her story spread. One Saudi heard of her story and decided to take care of her. He sent her to the UK to receive the appropriate treatment for her condition.

In the UK, her condition worsened and the cancer spread throughout her body with metastasis in multiple organs. The doctors had to amputate her legs, yet she still remained patient. Soon, the cancer spread to her brain the doctors had to do brain surgery. Bara'ah went into a full coma.

Before she went into coma, one of the Islamic channels (Al Hafiz - The protector) got in contact with this little girl and asked her to recite the Qur'an. This video is of her beautiful recitation of Surah Saffaat.

wow! Allah willing she will be in paradise with her family! this shows you how short life is man.

may Allah guide us all to the straight path and may Allah guide our Christian,jewish and athiest brothers to the truth.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 02, 2013, 04:45:37 PM
All children before puberty go to jannah and those strucken with disease and calamity while pious are also gauranteed jannah. May Allah (swt) reward them ameen.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJb6UW45RTs

check this out, its amazing.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 06:21:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI7h8JJ_Ba8


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 06:23:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7R5dI9tBmE


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on January 02, 2013, 08:47:06 PM
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ”  ― Sigmund Freud

Two words:  Penis.  Envy.

And people such as  yourself think those with faith in God are ridiculous.

I certainly don't envy  you and there are times  you can be quite the dick....errrrr... "penis".   ;)

Learn to be civil when you disagree with someone or you will be taught a lesson.  Like you just were.   ;D


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4511uLZ7Q


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 02, 2013, 10:29:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4511uLZ7Q


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on January 02, 2013, 10:44:50 PM
“Religion is a system of wishful illusions together with a disavowal of reality, such as we find nowhere else but in a state of blissful hallucinatory confusion. ”  ― Sigmund Freud

Two words:  Penis.  Envy.

And people such as  yourself think those with faith in God are ridiculous.

I certainly don't envy  you and there are times  you can be quite the dick....errrrr... "penis".   ;)

Learn to be civil when you disagree with someone or you will be taught a lesson.  Like you just were.   ;D
I quote Freud, you then mock one of his theories that you obviously don't understand, you then insult me all the while being an OVERT Hypocrite and claiming that type of behaviour isn't civilised or something you would do and you then go on to pat yourself on the back believing you somehow taught me a lesson.  WoW! This is why Religious zealots are considered to be NUTS, not only do they cling to make believe, they lack any shred of self awareness that would help raise them above their need to cling to such falsehoods and religious indoctrination.  What is the first step to developing self awareness and insight?, first realise you don't have any.  Freud will continue to be remembered for a long time due to his intelligence and insight into the human condition, you and the rest of the average God Botherers will continue to be considered irrelevant now and long after you are gone.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 02, 2013, 10:45:52 PM
(http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Muhammad%20cartoon.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 02, 2013, 10:49:19 PM
(http://www.bibleprobe.com/muhammad-cartoon19.gif)

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gj50628c11.jpg)

(http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cagledanishcartoons1.gif)

(http://bp1.blogger.com/_4FrpzOa1XII/Ruzgyi_lnjI/AAAAAAAAABY/qi64junGq68/s400/Mohammed-Cartoon-Reaction-London-002.jpg)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on January 02, 2013, 10:50:18 PM
(http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Muhammad%20cartoon.jpg)


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on January 03, 2013, 04:52:34 AM
I quote Freud, you then mock one of his theories that you obviously don't understand, you then insult me all the while being an OVERT Hypocrite and claiming that type of behaviour isn't civilised or something you would do and you then go on to pat yourself on the back believing you somehow taught me a lesson.  WoW! This is why Religious zealots are considered to be NUTS, not only do they cling to make believe, they lack any shred of self awareness that would help raise them above their need to cling to such falsehoods and religious indoctrination.  What is the first step to developing self awareness and insight?, first realise you don't have any.  Freud will continue to be remembered for a long time due to his intelligence and insight into the human condition, you and the rest of the average God Botherers will continue to be considered irrelevant now and long after you are gone.

You've just been schooled.  You are blinded by hatred and the need to be correct, not just for yourself but for everyone.  I've already said here that I am not come to make such as you wear shoes.   Perhaps you are too ignorant to understand that?   Silly faux child of iniquity.  I mock such as you. 

What you think of me is of little consequence.  In the end, it will still be the end.

Go stand in the corner with your dunce cap on. ;D


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: Radical Plato on January 03, 2013, 05:18:54 AM
 I've already said here that I am not come to make such as you wear shoes.   Perhaps you are too ignorant to understand that?   Silly faux child of iniquity.  I mock such as you.  

What you think of me is of little consequence.  In the end, it will still be the end.

What the fuck!, put the bottle down dude, it is hard enough to converse with an idiot as it is, let alone an inebriated one.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 03, 2013, 09:48:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceWtbJK9DrI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 03, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW8qoXjJxnE


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 03, 2013, 03:50:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdspgcduzUM


Title: Re: Is science the only answer?
Post by: 24KT on January 04, 2013, 03:23:11 AM
what the f*ck would you know about ghettos, sell out?

Truth is, I don't know alot about ghettos. I was raised in Toronto, so never had much of an opportunity to view one except after having reached the age of majority and moving to the USA.

Can you please clarify for me what you mean by "sell out?"

How have I sold out?


Title: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: loco on January 04, 2013, 08:54:30 AM
Serious question for our resident Muslims.

The God of the Bible loves Jews and anyone who supports and blesses the Jews.

Why does the Muslim deity hate the Jews so much?

A hadith is a saying or tradition attributed to the Prophet Muhammad. One particular hadith that has been repeated by academic and religious figures over and over on Palestinian Authority Television relates a time in the future when the rocks and the trees of the earth will call out to Muslims to kill them. Indeed, according to this hadith, until Muslims start killing Jews and the rocks and the trees reveal the latter's hiding places, the Hour of Resurrection - the end of the world - won't come.
By continually preaching this message to Palestinians, the PA is turning the killing of Jews into a religious obligation.

This is taken from Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176 & 177 of the Sahih Bukhari edition of the Hadith. The title of this chapter is, "Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)"


Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
God does not 'hate' Jews. And Jews recognize Muslims worship the God of Abraham. So no need to be coy and stupid and say "Muslim deity". What is it with you trinitarian Christians and trying to make it seem like Muslims worship a different God. It is you who worship Jesus instead of God. Jews recognize and know that we Muslims worship God Almighty the God of Adam, Abraham, Isac, Ishmael, etc...

That out of the way. Those hadiths speak of the future, where, the Jews will cause so much chaos on the earth and they will be ultimately led by the anti-christ as their worldly king.

The qur'an and hadith also speak about protecting the Jews and Christians. So next time know the context and don't throw ignorant and coy remarks.

Jesus would have called God, Elah in Aramaic the sister language of Hebrew and Arabic.


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 09:42:09 AM
Stop trying to be coy over and over again like an ignorant islamophobe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqHdVhVGwK8


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
You sell a lot of gold, I guess he's just jelly. Try not to bite their bait, it just destroys perfectly education threads. Seriously 24kt you've done it in that other thread of mine and they just derailed everything that's these idiots' intent.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: 24KT on January 04, 2013, 09:52:13 AM
You sell a lot of gold, I guess he's just jelly. Try not to bite their bait, it just destroys perfectly education threads. Seriously 24kt you've done it in that other thread of mine and they just derailed everything that's these idiots' intent.

sorry  :(

Will try to do better to avoid & resist the trolls. Being called a "sell out" caught me by surprise. I'm not use to hearing that term except from ignorant Americans who assume anyone Black and NOT living in a ghetto must have somehow "sold out."   The idea that someone Black could have been born far from the ghetto and have no desire to go there rarely occurs of some of them. ::)


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
I think this settles it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnvTmIJWEc4

I've only ever met one person who spoke Aramaic. It was like wow moment for me though. As it's one of the oldest and rarest still barely surviving languages in the world!


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: loco on January 04, 2013, 10:01:26 AM
That out of the way. Those hadiths speak of the future, where, the Jews will cause so much chaos on the earth and they will be ultimately led by the anti-christ as their worldly king.

 :-X


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 04, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
You sell a lot of gold, I guess he's just jelly. Try not to bite their bait, it just destroys perfectly education threads. Seriously 24kt you've done it in that other thread of mine and they just derailed everything that's these idiots' intent.
Yeah, remember Good propaganda has to just highlight one side of the story, you have to eliminate opposing views and pretend that our view is the most popular.  If you actually ignore any opposition, it is far easier to remain indoctrinated and in a state of ignorant bliss.


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
lol if you go into google and say "Jews will" the first thing that comes up is Jews will destroy the world. Kind of hilarious. The third says start world war 3.

The qur'an and hadi'th do not condemn all Jews, but certain Jews who cause chaos on the earth. Who despite being given the truth, reject the truth, they have had many many mighty prophets and messengers sent to them, yet they were haughty. Disobidient. Trying to ridicule, humiliate, kill, the prophets and messengers. Again not all Jews.

Even when being led by Moses, they were almost instantly always turning around and disobidient.

In modern times, zionists look at the chaos they cause? One can see that and interpret it that way. Political lobbying. Proxy warfare. Palestine the land of Jesus. Federal reserve bank. Hollywood. Amongst other things. Did you know it was the Israeli intelligence that provided the 'information' to attack Iraq, false information. "Weapons of mass destruction". Likewise with Iran.

The bottom line is they will be led by the anti-christ. Remember they rejected Jesus as the messiah, so they await still 'their messiah'. We muslims accept Jesus as the messiah and await Jesus' return as the messiah and to rule the world by God's law and set the world straight. Jesus will fight when he returns and kill the anti-christ.

Zionist also are not Godly people, they are atheists, secularists, that's what zionism was founded by. Orthodox Jews were against zionism and against the creation of Israel in Palestine.

The anti-christ will appear from an area in Iran, followed by 40,000 persians Jews if I recall wearing blue shawls which Irani Jews wear traditionally.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 10:23:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7dzYjzem4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcued1dRKWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xVybeSo3QA


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 04, 2013, 05:18:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KnRS9v4qg


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: loco on January 05, 2013, 06:12:48 AM
lol if you go into google and say "Jews will" the first thing that comes up is Jews will destroy the world. Kind of hilarious. The third says start world war 3.

The qur'an and hadi'th do not condemn all Jews, but certain Jews who cause chaos on the earth. Who despite being given the truth, reject the truth, they have had many many mighty prophets and messengers sent to them, yet they were haughty. Disobidient. Trying to ridicule, humiliate, kill, the prophets and messengers. Again not all Jews.

Even when being led by Moses, they were almost instantly always turning around and disobidient.

In modern times, zionists look at the chaos they cause? One can see that and interpret it that way. Political lobbying. Proxy warfare. Palestine the land of Jesus. Federal reserve bank. Hollywood. Amongst other things. Did you know it was the Israeli intelligence that provided the 'information' to attack Iraq, false information. "Weapons of mass destruction". Likewise with Iran.

The bottom line is they will be led by the anti-christ. Remember they rejected Jesus as the messiah, so they await still 'their messiah'. We muslims accept Jesus as the messiah and await Jesus' return as the messiah and to rule the world by God's law and set the world straight. Jesus will fight when he returns and kill the anti-christ.

Zionist also are not Godly people, they are atheists, secularists, that's what zionism was founded by. Orthodox Jews were against zionism and against the creation of Israel in Palestine.

The anti-christ will appear from an area in Iran, followed by 40,000 persians Jews if I recall wearing blue shawls which Irani Jews wear traditionally.

a_ahmed,

I did as you suggested.  I googled "Jews Will", but the first thing that comes up is NOT that Jews will destroy the world.

This is the first thing that came up:

'Not a single Jew will be left on the face of the Earth'

A Muslim cleric from Egypt is forecasting an end times annihilation of every Jew on the face of the Earth and says that will be the ultimate victory for Islam.

“A small group of Jews will remain, but not the Jews living in Palestine. A group of Jews from Isfahan will survive, and they will follow the Antichrist, but eventually, they will also be killed, along with the Antichrist,” he continued. “Ultimately, not a single Jew will be left on the face of the Earth. Victory is coming, Allah willing.”

Former terrorist turned Christian Walid Shoebat noted the report, and said, “As the West attempts to split hairs when determining if Islamists with this view are part of al-Qaida or not, the words of Islamists like this fall on deaf ears. His idea of victory is for the Earth to be uninhabited by a single Jew.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/not-a-single-jew-will-be-left-on-the-face-of-the-earth/#kTFcyPmTLiPkceCo.99


Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 09:59:28 AM
Lying is bad for you, being coy is bad for you and using bad information is bad for you.

(http://www.upl.co/uploads/Untitled-92.png)


lol@ getting your information from a fraud. Walid Shoebat was exposed as a fraud, liar and a pathetic profiteer. He is exploiting your ignorance and the ignorance of those like you.

It's easy for any morons today to make money off of anti islam propaganda. Anyone can make up anything and say oh yeah this is what mozzlemz are up to.

This guy is hilarious lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04yWUuoU7Lc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxpU7ll2SE

"Experts" haha

And lol@ getting your news from evangelical websites HAHAHA


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: loco on January 05, 2013, 10:30:19 AM
 ???

I thought you meant the Google search results, not the Google search field.  But either way you are wrong.

"Jews Will Be Saved" shows up first.

It was thanks to you that I found that news article, no matter who was quoted in it.

So why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:45:03 AM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh92Mlp3Tlw


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
???

I thought you meant the Google search results, not the Google search field.  But either way you are wrong.

"Jews Will Be Saved" shows up first.

It was thanks to you that I found that news article, no matter who was quoted in it.

So why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?

havent you heard any of the stories? the jews have killed MANY prophets which came to them. the prophet(at the time) would come and preach to them(there were approx:124,000 prophets from diffrent areas of the world throughout mankind whom all preached the same thing, including Mohammad and Jesus).

they(the jews) didnt like what they(prophets) had to say so they killed them! they went so far as to murder a prophet(s)! they tried doing the same thing to Jesus by placing him on a cross, but Allah saved Jesus before he was killed and replaced him with another man, and brought jesus to heaven. So Jesus is still alive waiting to come back, he never died.

Also did you know MANY MANY of the jewish rabbis accept Mohammad as the last prophet...ect? BUT they will never change from judism becauses thats who they are. They CLAIM WORSHIP ALLAH, but they want to do it in their OWN way(not converting to islam), not the way ALLAH has told them to do it. so even the JEWS know Allah is God!

and of course there have been thousands and thousands of jews whom converted to islam, so there not ALL like that.


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 10:48:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOynC1xPAs


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJMbN09tfVg


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:52:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDG7DtIpmLQ


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:56:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9a6blduFb0


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 11:00:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skbExDtFiu4

A famous Jewish theologian and philosopher Mosheh ben Maimon (משה בן מימון), called Moses Maimonides who lived in peace under the Muslim Spain once said in a decree of his when asked a question, if a Jew comes to a land where there is no synagogue hypothetically can he pray in a house of worship other than a synagogue. He responded by saying not to any pagan or idolatrous temple, not to any church as they worship a man and commit idolatry BUT he allowed them to pray in mosques.


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj8MgeFzTqA


Title: Re: Questoin: Why does the Muslim deity hate Jews?
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 01:38:55 PM
Lying is bad for you, being coy is bad for you and using bad information is bad for you.

(http://www.upl.co/uploads/Untitled-92.png)


lol@ getting your information from a fraud. Walid Shoebat was exposed as a fraud, liar and a pathetic profiteer. He is exploiting your ignorance and the ignorance of those like you.

It's easy for any morons today to make money off of anti islam propaganda. Anyone can make up anything and say oh yeah this is what mozzlemz are up to.

This guy is hilarious lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04yWUuoU7Lc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxpU7ll2SE

"Experts" haha

And lol@ getting your news from evangelical websites HAHAHA

And yet your biased propoganda is gotten from fair and balanced sites? :-\

Fact is anyhthingthat points out negative aspects of islam and there are many are dismissed by you  becuase you are too blind and stupid to accept that your sad cult is more of a destructive influence than salvation. All your handpicked videos fail to address reality and thr destruction muslims cause around the world. That is a fact. Travel to any country muslims are not in the majority and they will tell you that. Of course you'd much rather sit in your basement googling selective videos rather than face the truth about your peophile profiteer.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 01:47:12 PM
Yeah, remember Good propaganda has to just highlight one side of the story, you have to eliminate opposing views and pretend that our view is the most popular.  If you actually ignore any opposition, it is far easier to remain indoctrinated and in a state of ignorant bliss.

Bingo

Achmutt cant face the truth about his murderous cult so he chooses to live in a cocoon of ignorance.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: loco on January 05, 2013, 03:39:28 PM
Do our resident Muslims have some kind for partnership with YouTube or something?  Dang!     ???


I don't mind a YouTube video here and there, but...Dang!!!!   :-\


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 04:05:14 PM
"He" also can't face the truth that his "prophet" was an illiterate pedophile who currently resides in Hell.

Truth.

Muhahahamed relied on christianity to give it legitamacy. Sort of like a how a parasite relies on its host to live. 

Besides chrisitianity also mentions the emergence of false prohets And how they will lie and decieve to lead men astray. Look no further than islam to see the work of satan. - intolrerance, murder, theft..the list goes on. Muhahahamed himself doubted the voices in his head claiming they were the words of the jinn. It was his wife who sold him on the idea of convincing the rest of the sheep to beleive 





Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Do our resident Muslims have some kind for partnership with YouTube or something?  Dang!     ???


I don't mind a YouTube video here and there, but...Dang!!!!   :-\

Thats because he lacks the intelligence to put something in his own words.

This is pretty common on children educated in islamic schools. They blindly regurgitate everything without any understanding of the content. This is why radical islam gains followers. They teach their young to follow without question hence the lack of critical thinking in most muslim males.

This is why achmutt falls apart whenever he's presented with evidence contrary to his propoganda. He doesnt know how to respond intelligently so his reaction is to scream " its not true" and " islamaphobe".

Sad but entertaining character.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEl0O3OJWI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
allah has several names and one is the DECIEVER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kAFYai1law


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 06:45:15 PM
Do our resident Muslims have some kind for partnership with YouTube or something?  Dang!     ???


I don't mind a YouTube video here and there, but...Dang!!!!   :-\

HAHAHA!!!! this is called the EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS ABOUT ISLAM THREAD...did you not see the Video part? come on man...


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 05, 2013, 07:04:34 PM


We need sensible voices in the discussion of islam such as those of avxo, loon, ekul, man of steel, onetimehard, garebear and many others who have demonstrated clear thinking and objectivity. The voice of an islamic zealot cannot be counted on to tell the truth.

We need to see the actions of muslims worldwide....and what better way to show them than showing  real world muslim actions not empty rhetoric performed by islamic drones of questionable education and morals.

I know you're a huge video fan achmutt  so stay tuned for some real education  :-*

Have a glorious day


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
What the fuck!, put the bottle down dude, it is hard enough to converse with an idiot as it is, let alone an inebriated one.

How original.  I do not drink alcohol. 

Look, if you are incapable of having your world dragged into the light, quit being such a cockroach.  Freud was a man.  Nothing more. His theories were just that.  "Mock" Freud?  Yup.  You mock the man that many consider to be the savior of the world.  I could care less what you do and mock you for it.  You get your panties in a self induced wedgie and I laugh at you.

And it hurts your feelings because you are still a child.   Now go change your diaper and then look into changing your  mindset when it comes to learning to get along.  Consider this a lesson in negative and positive reinforcement.  Be well.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 05, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg73PHhyEo


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvMwyRRttiM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 08:32:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbjva3E3kM


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 08:33:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQj3FxsFjkk


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 08:33:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGL-MRQHw4g


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6j07FE8EIs


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 09:58:16 PM

We need sensible voices in the discussion of islam such as those of avxo, loon, ekul, man of steel, onetimehard, garebear and many others who have demonstrated clear thinking and objectivity. The voice of an islamic zealot cannot be counted on to tell the truth.

We need to see the actions of muslims worldwide....and what better way to show them than showing  real world muslim actions not empty rhetoric performed by islamic drones of questionable education and morals.

I know you're a huge video fan achmutt  so stay tuned for some real education  :-*

Have a glorious day

every day where i can get all 5 prayers on time truly is GLORIOUS!  :) ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 09:59:53 PM
are not is :P

I thank Allah (swt) every day for guiding me to Islam... I feel sorry for the people who have so much pride, arrogance and anger in them to not learn about islam. If people knew about the beauty of islam they would find peace in their lives. Instead they are only filled with anger and hate when they spew ignorance about islam.

You will see the same in other people who have embraced islam, especially those that were once so angry at islam (in ignorance) and then when they actually learned about islam after years of denial and not actually taking the effort to learn islam.. they realize they wasted so many years. So many people spew and repeat the same lies and hate, yet they themselves never actually opened a qur'an. They go to websites that spread hate and misinformation.

Even more funny is when Muslims try to explain what our religion is, they will go "NO NO you are LIYING" .... lol that's how much denial, hate and anger has been struck into these people's heads.

Knowledge is the cure to ignorance. Alas people are misled by false knowledge and false information and remain ignorant while they  think they know but really don't know anything at all about islam.


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:08:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-oduMLHklU


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: a_ahmed on January 05, 2013, 10:09:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsMYylPWYKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHY1AwDT16I


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 06, 2013, 02:47:47 AM
meltdown

when towel heads stop committing terrorists acts maybe people will take you more seriously
X2 This is why a-ahmeds preaching is so odious, either he is a complete ignoramus who is unaware of the evil performed in the name of Islam, or he knows about it, but derives some sick perverse pleasure from misleading others to attract them to the religion, so they can then be brainwashed and unable to leave once they discover everything about ISLAM.  If he told the truth about his religion, that it has EVIL aspects and that it isn't so great, but for him it has provided safety in numbers and a sense of security because he can count on the predictability of ISLAM, then others might be prepared to listen, but instead, Muslims ignore the reality of ISLAM, sell it has a cure all for all that ails you and then wonder why people give them the same respect as a snake oil salesman.  If ISLAM was any good, it would encourage Honesty, instead it encourages Deceit as a means to and end.  Islam is a JOKE!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: loco on January 06, 2013, 05:53:48 AM
HAHAHA!!!! this is called the EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS ABOUT ISLAM THREAD...did you not see the Video part? come on man...

My thread, which was not about videos, got merged into this one by the mods because Muslims spammed it.    >:(


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 06, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
My thread, which was not about videos, got merged into this one by the mods because Muslims spammed it.    >:(

those big bad muslims bullying you loco?  :'(


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 06, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
are not is :P

I thank Allah (swt) every day for guiding me to Islam... I feel sorry for the people who have so much pride, arrogance and anger in them to not learn about islam. If people knew about the beauty of islam they would find peace in their lives. Instead they are only filled with anger and hate when they spew ignorance about islam.

You will see the same in other people who have embraced islam, especially those that were once so angry at islam (in ignorance) and then when they actually learned about islam after years of denial and not actually taking the effort to learn islam.. they realize they wasted so many years. So many people spew and repeat the same lies and hate, yet they themselves never actually opened a qur'an. They go to websites that spread hate and misinformation.

Even more funny is when Muslims try to explain what our religion is, they will go "NO NO you are LIYING" .... lol that's how much denial, hate and anger has been struck into these people's heads.

Knowledge is the cure to ignorance. Alas people are misled by false knowledge and false information and remain ignorant while they  think they know but really don't know anything at all about islam.

Ahmed once again(for the millionth time) speaks the truth!

 just keep giving it to them bro, remember the truth is somthing these people hate.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 11:42:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuU6I8TTsQ


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 01:22:23 PM
So you have a problem that Muhammad (pbuh) was taken up to heaven? Okay. That's fine I can' convince you, it's a matter of faith but I do not ridicule you or any of the other miracles in the bible, we believe in them too. It is God who does what he wants.

You also find it a problem that in Islam people will be given pious women in paradise? As if this is the #1 thing lol. You see how ignorant you are? You are bent on this one issue. What about the other descriptions of heaven? That you will see God. That you will be in the presence of God. That you will be living for eternity. That you will be able to converse and chill with various people from the past who were pious, your family that were pious, the prophets, messengers, martyrs, whoever that was a pious godly person. That you will never age, that you will never hunger, but that if you eat you can eat as much as you want and not get fat, that you will not get ill or sick, that you will not have excrament or other filthy things of this world. We will be given different bodies. That all in heaven will be unlike anything you can imagine of this world, in the least explained, the best of this world but magnified millions of times that you cannot imagine it. The lowest of those in heave will be granted houses and homes that are equal to all the kingdoms of this world, all the mansions and palces incomparable to this world. That each time you come there is something new awaiting you. That the homes will be decorated with gold, silver, diamonds, in the most extravagent and beautiful ways. There will be no envy, no jealousy, no suspicion of anyone. Peace, as it says in the qur'an peace will be greeting upon everyone every day.

That your wife will be a queen that each time you aproach her she looks more beautiful and each time she sees you, you will be more handsome. There is no boredom, you will have always something to do. Sex will be unlike this world, so the filthy of it, smell of it will not be present in heaven.

The life after will be like this life but without the evil and without the suffering.

What do you think heaven is? Hanging on clouds playing the harp like some christians believe?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 06, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
Muhahamed was a conniving opportunist who borrowed christian and jewish concepts to create his own little cult. He was never a prphet just a profiteer who also happened to have ataste for 6 year old children.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 01:48:47 PM
Yet he lived his life in poverty and gave away everything as much as possible and normally refused gifts.

And prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said the poor will be the first to enter heaven.

I love how you say everything OPPOSITE of what islam actually is, yet you claim its islam. It's fascinating.

Also Islam did not 'steal' or 'borrow' anything from judaism or christianity, it reaffirms what was up until Jesus. It just continues the message, affirms and finalizes it for all mankind.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 06, 2013, 01:58:23 PM
Yet he lived his life in poverty and gave away everything as much as possible and normally refused gifts.

And prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said the poor will be the first to enter heaven.

I love how you say everything OPPOSITE of what islam actually is, yet you claim its islam. It's fascinating.

Also Islam did not 'steal' or 'borrow' anything from judaism or christianity, it reaffirms what was up until Jesus. It just continues the message, affirms and finalizes it for all mankind.

Wrong. Without the theft of christian and jewsish concepts islam would have no leg to stand on. This is a fact. Muhahahmed was a cunning opportunist who chose leech on already established religions for legitimacy. His only evidence? God spoke to him...lol. Sure Thats completely believable. Fortuntately he lived in a time where people were easily led around.....sort of like the muslims of today. Still clinging to the words uttered by a profiteer pedophile.

Islam is the opposite of what it claims to be. The so called religion of peace thinks nothing of issuing fatwas and creating riots at the slightest provocation. Its history and record of intolerance , destruction and primitive thinking is easily visible to everyone despite all your denials.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 02:04:50 PM
So what you're trying to say is without Judaism there would be no christianity? Jesus stole from Judaism or was it paul? And Christianity stole from judaism? Wait what?

Did Moses steal from Abraham? Did David steal from Moses? Did Abraham steal from Noah? Did Noah steal from Adam?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 02:34:54 PM
Peace be up on you :) This is the greeting in islam.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 06, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Peace be up on you :) This is the greeting in islam.

Is that the greeting muslims use prior to issuing fatwas and inciting riots that result in the destruction of lives and property?

Stay off the kool aid boyo. :D


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
No this is the greeting of the prophets and we employ it in our lives.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: loco on January 06, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
those big bad muslims bullying you loco?  :'(

No, just annoying.  That's all.    :-\


Title: Re: People who have become Muslim
Post by: loco on January 06, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Stefano on January 06, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
No this is the greeting of the prophets and we employ it in our lives.

Too bad they remain empty words jut like claiming islam is the religion of peace when it promotes the exact opposite.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 04:38:22 PM
What you meant to say is you say untrue things about islam and claim they are islam. Then when we muslims correct your lies, you say we are lying lol hilarious guy!

Islam is the religion of peace, but psychopathic elites using the media are trying their very best in maligning islam. Likewise with individuals like yourself, likewise with individuals who profit at islam bashing.

God's name is al-salaam. The source of peace. Islam is derived from salam which is peace. and to be muslim is to submit your will to God through which you receive peace. I am at peace as a Muslim. While you, are angry and hateful. :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYEyxy217k


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 05:12:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hA6Siqfh0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 07:23:45 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
So fellow Christian. Is this the way Jesus (peace be upon him) spoke? Is this the way you emulate our beloved prophet Jesus (peace be upon him)?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 07:38:26 PM
 

You know not Christ, butthead.  Your prophet is a farce and your God is not God.  Take a hike with your rote.

Yet the Aramaic bible calls God Allah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnvTmIJWEc4

Please enlighten me where Jesus instructs you to behave and speak the way you do?

I know Jesus (peace be upon him) probably before you ever did. Unlike you, I tried to be a better christian and learned more of the bible, read the available apocrypha translations even, read the history of christianity, tried different flavours of christianity and what led me to islam is trying to be a better believer. Not anger or hate or delusion.

Please again, enlighten me where Jesus (peace be upon him) instructs anyone to use foul language or demeanor that you employ.

Muhammad (peace be upon him) also frowned upon foul language and cursing.

Yet here you are with an endless dictionary of insults and curses.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 06, 2013, 07:50:27 PM
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Just a number of principles summarized that Islam teaches.

The last two may seem confusing but that is because they are short excert reminders from hadith. The first is where Muhammad (peace be upon him) emphasizes to people not to get angry three times. The last is a man asking who is to be respected after God and the messenger and the man asked three times where Muhammad (peace be upon him) responded mother 3 times and then finally father once. The importance and status of mothers in islam.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: pedro01 on January 06, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg73PHhyEo

What a bunch of animals


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: pedro01 on January 06, 2013, 11:37:41 PM
The lowest of those in heave will be granted houses and homes that are equal to all the kingdoms of this world, all the mansions and palces incomparable to this world. That each time you come there is something new awaiting you. That the homes will be decorated with gold, silver, diamonds, in the most extravagent and beautiful ways. There will be no envy, no jealousy, no suspicion of anyone. Peace, as it says in the qur'an peace will be greeting upon everyone every day.

Sounds very materialistic doesn't it?



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: pedro01 on January 06, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
So you have a problem that Muhammad (pbuh) was taken up to heaven? Okay. That's fine I can' convince you, it's a matter of faith but I do not ridicule you or any of the other miracles in the bible, we believe in them too. It is God who does what he wants.

You also find it a problem that in Islam people will be given pious women in paradise?

Where do these women come from, exactly? Did they never live on earth?  

I mean, you can't go stealing chicks of other Muslim men, can you? You'd be honor bound to stone them to death after for their infidelity. They can't be chicks that existed on earth unless they are western gals you get. I guess women off infidel men is OK, right? Or are they just soulless creations of Allah? Not sure I'd want to shtump something with no soul.

Also - what do Muslim women get when they die? A bunch of well hung studs to fuck? When your wife gets to heaven, will she be serviced by 72 young, handsome, virile men who can keep it up all day?   Would the studs not end up stoning her to death for infidelity, though? Or is it just the men that get a bunch of sexy young things in the afterlife?

How does your wife feel about the extra competition she's going to have in the afterlife if she isn't granted a cockfest? Women are treated well in the Muslim world after all. Don't you think it's a bit of a slap in the face to her for you to be fucking all these hot chicks? Does she realise you fatasize about it regularly? Muslim women must be very cool to be OK with that. My missus would cut my balls off.

Alternatively - how do you feel about her getting drilled in all 3 holes from identical Brad Pitt triplets in the afterlife? You'd be cool with that considering all the fucking you'd be doing, right? Women being equal and all.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 07, 2013, 01:10:59 AM
it is indeed merciful, Allah tests people, sometime in extreme opposite ways. A very poor person and a very rich person, are both being tested. the rich bcome arrogant and greedy, not giving chairity or refusing to give up power(look at dicators of middle east) and rather kill people to stay on power...ect

poor people in ISLAM have a high status. the poor will enter paradise far before the rich and powerful(kings, politicans).

anytime a person struggles, even if its a headache or somthing as big as Hunger,starvation poverty,cancer ...ect erases sins

You do realise this nonsense is based on the just world theory, a theory that is completely false.  What you are suggesting is the same idea buddhists have of karma, that if you are experiencing suffering you somehow deserved it.  It is a perverse and evil idea indeed, and one that religious nutjobs somehow relish in telling others about.  What did those children murdered at school in connecticut do to deserve such a test?  By telling yourself that these things happen for a some unknown reason because the almighty has some twisted plan is a complete cop out, it is a way for humans to avoid taking responsibility for themselves and their community.  Bad stuff happens because humans are too busy being self centred and following religious obsessions rather than taking care of their fellow man.  If humanity put as much effort into helping each other as it does to being focused on an imaginary deity, the world would be far better off, and GOD would finally get the peace and quiet he deserves.  :o

It also makes it easier to rationalise tragedy as humans like to make sense of the world as part of their survival strategy. The just world theory also stems from a belief, that BAD things happen to BAD people and bad things won't happen to them because they are GOOD. The JUST WORLD concept has been proven to be completely FALSE, but ironically, some psychologists suggest you will have better mental health if you believe in it, the alternative is to be aware of the incredible INJUSTICE of the world and this can have a negative impact on ones mindset, it may also mean you may have to begin to do something about it, as your conscience would struggle with this realisation.

The JUST world attitude has been around for a long time (KARMA), and many moons ago a man by the name of John Bradford, after seeing criminals being led to the scaffold uttered the words 'There but for the grace of God, go I' meaning, I too, like someone seen to have suffered misfortune, might have suffered a similar fate, but for God's mercy. He didn't enjoy that grace for long, however. He was burned at the stake in 1555.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 09:21:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ0pwSS90HI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 09:31:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j40NXRNTva0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QaeZcV_azE


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 07, 2013, 09:48:45 AM
a-ahmed, you do realise that Getbiggers know how to access Youtube, no one watches your videos, your obsessional posting of them is starting to be an embarrassment to you, If you want to sell ISLAM, try being a NORMAL dude.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 07, 2013, 10:01:46 AM
I honestly have not watched a single video.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 07, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
I honestly have not watched a single video.
Same, it really is quite embarrassing, and they wonder why we think they are MAD MUSLIMS!  and I thought the evangelism of the Jehovahs Witnesses was bad. 


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 07, 2013, 10:17:42 AM
Why would anyone actually take the time to watch any of that? It's just uninteresting.

if your a muslim/ seeking truth with an open heart its not "uninteresting".

if your here to troll, well then everything will be "uninteresting"


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 10:31:04 AM
You're welcome to watch the videos, if you don't want to watch them no one is forcing you to watch them. You don't even have to enter the thread, no one's forcing you to enter the thread or even post.

You could benefit by watching some of the videos but if you don't want to no one can persuade you except yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqvly5OGUI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 07, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
Posting all of these videos is much more "trolling" than I am.

in a thread called educational videos about islam? put down the bottle...


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 04:01:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIG5qaTcPW4


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 04:10:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWZSrddmYsw


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 07, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pimr-canyE


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 07, 2013, 05:53:55 PM
 i have heard of the saying "the truth is a bitter pill to swallow" but these guys have taken it to a whole new level!

 they hate the truth! and act like a toddlers with a cold refusing medicine!

keep posting the vids Dr.Ahmed, we have alot of sick patients around here! LOL


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 08, 2013, 12:39:45 AM
::)

I've requested that all of my posts in here be deleted, but no one is listening.

Remove them yourself... You haven't posted much.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 08, 2013, 02:55:26 AM
If everyone has a mansion, is it still something special?

Wouldn't everyone just think it was normal?

Surprised to see allah couldn't figure that one out. Most high school students can grasp that concept.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
There is no envy or jealousy in jannah. Everyone will be content and what you have will always increase in your eyes you will never feel bored or unhappy.

I don't see where you don't grasp that part. Your perception is small.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: pedro01 on January 08, 2013, 09:00:02 AM
There is no envy or jealousy in jannah. Everyone will be content and what you have will always increase in your eyes you will never feel bored or unhappy.

I don't see where you don't grasp that part. Your perception is small.

Why would you need a house in the afterlife?

Why would you need diamonds, silver & gold?

Sounds rather modelled on earth, doesn't it?

Do they have shops there?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 09:11:50 AM
What is your expectation of heaven? Hanging on clouds and playing harps like some christians believe?

Like this life, the after life will be like this world but without the evil, without the suffering, without jealousy, without envy, without illness or weakness. You will have things to do and spare time as in eternity. Never to be bored or unhappy.

It will be like unlike anything we can imagine, but like this world except better.

People spend their whole life struggling to achieve things in this world and it's apparently admirable, what is wrong with being rewarded by God with a life that is better than this life? God provided us life and this world as well, except it is but a short period of time that we are in this world and everyone is tested.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 08, 2013, 09:41:48 AM
Also islam is very just. 7 heavens, you get rewarded for what you do, not a one size fits all. the more good deeds you do, the better your reward.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 08, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
Also islam is very just. 7 heavens, you get rewarded for what you do, not a one size fits all. the more good deeds you do, the better your reward.


Sounds Great, I guess if it is based on GOOD DEEDS their will be no Muslims their then.  Because the last thing anyone wants is to live next door to one of those Mad Muslims.  IS their a place for humans who practised an evil ideology like ISLAM on earth and as a result caused unimaginable suffering?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 08, 2013, 09:49:47 AM
Sounds Great, I guess if it is based on GOOD DEEDS their will be no Muslims their then.  Because the last thing anyone wants is to live next door to one of those Mad Muslims.  IS their a place for humans who practised an evil ideology like ISLAM on earth and as a result caused unimaginable suffering?

I have an honest question for you:

why are you so bitter? has a loved one passed away? fired from job? kicked out of school? wife left you? whats happend to you man? are you happy with your current life? you seem so angry all the time!

I suggest you get help.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 08, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
I have an honest question for you:

why are you so bitter? has a loved one passed away? fired from job? kicked out of school? wife left you? whats happend to you man? are you happy with your current life? you seem so angry all the time!

I suggest you get help.
I'm Great, I just don't like evil Ideologies like NAZISM, Maoism and ISLAM, and as a concerned human being, I feel a moral imperative to stand up for what is right!  What strikes me as particular odd about Muslims, is that they expect people to embrace it.  Islam is a perverse EVIL and the human race will be better off without it,  This is NOT HATE, this is done out of a LOVE for humanity.  Why would any human being want to promote a hateful, despotic and evil ideology like ISLAM, to do so with an air of nonchalance makes it even more odious.  ISLAM will go down in HISTORY as a failed religion and seen in the same light as NAZISM, and just like NAZISM it will be banned and scorned, of this I have no doubt.  Because of your brainwashing, you couldn't consider for a moment that you are wrong and those who oppose ISLAM are right.  If you are so brainwashed that you think you have a monopoly on the TRUTH, you are beyond help, beyond redemption, and this is why ISLAM needs to be banned, it shuts down their reasoning abilities, and encourages extremes that are not only bad for them in the long term, but bad for everyone else as well.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
Strong anger outburst rant is strong. Congratulations e-kul you are full of angry thoughts. May God guide you :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 03:20:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564pezeCP1g


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTe_SuhG_X0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 08, 2013, 04:00:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CusiJbThqko

very cool vid.

eddie from the DEEN SHOW vs Abu taubah.

for those who dont know, Eddie is the host of a popular Muslim tak show.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 08, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
lol 2:00 mark that's a sick sweep


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 09, 2013, 09:54:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKcgNzzrs4


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 09, 2013, 09:54:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOOQA-oGi9I


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 10, 2013, 03:20:19 AM
Remember when some Muslims punked that girl in Pakistan by shooting her in the face? Man, that was wacky.

Someone should post a video about that so that we can be reminded of the great sense of humor Muslims have.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 10, 2013, 09:08:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUE1EmlWfvk


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 10, 2013, 05:45:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKQJtbvYX_0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 10, 2013, 08:13:20 PM
Not as sick as marrying a nine year old girl like your "prophet" did.

Towel head.

Alright smart guy ::).



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 10, 2013, 08:21:25 PM
Remember when some Muslims punked that girl in Pakistan by shooting her in the face? Man, that was wacky.

Someone should post a video about that so that we can be reminded of the great sense of humor Muslims have.

what are you talking about?! it was a random event! the guy somehow randomly got on the bus and by chance he happend to have a gun in his hand, which by chance was filled with bullets! and by chance as he walked by the girl the gun went off shooting her randomly in the face! then  randomly his legs started moving and he ran off the bus in a random direction. its all by chance, dont you see?!!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 10, 2013, 11:23:03 PM
what are you talking about?! it was a random event! the guy somehow randomly got on the bus and by chance he happend to have a gun in his hand, which by chance was filled with bullets! and by chance as he walked by the girl the gun went off shooting her randomly in the face! then  randomly his legs started moving and he ran off the bus in a random direction. its all by chance, dont you see?!!
Haha. Right.

And then the Taliban randomly took credit it for it and promised to do it again in the random future.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 11, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
what are you talking about?! it was a random event! the guy somehow randomly got on the bus and by chance he happend to have a gun in his hand, which by chance was filled with bullets! and by chance as he walked by the girl the gun went off shooting her randomly in the face! then  randomly his legs started moving and he ran off the bus in a random direction. its all by chance, dont you see?!!
Sounds eerily familiar, just like 9/11, some random Muslims, boarded a random plane and by chance flew it into a random building.  All completely random you see.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 11, 2013, 07:35:10 AM
Haha. Right.

And then the Taliban randomly took credit it for it and promised to do it again in the random future.

Yes! i mean if somthing as complex as the universe can happen by chance why cant somthing like happen by chance aswell?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 11, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlbWmejecI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 12, 2013, 08:51:43 AM
truebb, i already told you not to feed the trolls, they keep claiming they don't want to even see or be in this thread but look at them troll in hate and anger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB-IMHxnck


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 12, 2013, 09:49:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Ueo_b76LA


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 12, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdehZWV72MQ




Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 12, 2013, 01:13:29 PM
^Allahu Akbar, how relevant!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 12, 2013, 01:18:54 PM
^Allahu Akbar, how relevant!

 ;)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on January 13, 2013, 12:54:10 AM
Sounds eerily familiar, just like 9/11, some random Muslims, boarded a random plane and by chance flew it into a random building.  All completely random you see.


Al Qaeda Does Not Exist – BBC Special Documentary

2007 – According to this BBC documentary there’s no such thing as al-Qaeda – at least not as we’ve come to know it. It’s a fraud perpetrated on the British and American people by the governments to scare us into submission.  While Osama bin Laden did have links to Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists, he was not the leader of a powerful, cohesive group called Al Qaeda.  The US government built him up into such a figure to give Americans a face – an enemy – to hate in their push for public support of multiple wars planned for the middle east.

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/al-qaeda-does-not-exist-bbc-special-documentary-full-version/



Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab, jews pretending to be al qaeda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0


The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9-11


 A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
 The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.
 
Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery.
 
"They were like happy, you know ? They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness.
 [T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.
 
Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact . Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 13, 2013, 09:49:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpRf3T_ICgU


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 13, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
This is more of a video for Muslims to avoid innovations and stick to the sunnah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_TXO3-zD20


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 13, 2013, 08:59:39 PM
This is more of a video for Muslims to avoid innovations and stick to the sunnah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_TXO3-zD20

good vid.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 13, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKzAmkB44ik


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 13, 2013, 09:45:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWv49jJZODE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Q4-P2ri84


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 13, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f80pNyoL6A


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 14, 2013, 12:29:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f80pNyoL6A

God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)

What's your opinion on gays e-kul?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 14, 2013, 01:01:10 AM
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)

What's your opinion on gays e-kul?
 The owner of the gym I go to is Gay, he seems just like anybody else to me, in my time I have also known a few people who were gay, they seemed just like any heterosexual person I met.  It is funny that you want to be able to discriminate against gays, something you find disgusting and that should be stopped, but yet don't seem to think it is OK for others to discriminate against ISLAM if they think it is disgusting and that it should be stopped.  Although Homosexuality is something I don't feel drawn too, I think their ideology for the most part is harmless, this can not be said about ISLAM, which inflicts unimaginable suffering everywhere it is followed.

What's your opinion on GAY MUSLIMS?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2013, 07:35:26 AM
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)

What's your opinion on gays e-kul?

People are FREE to do what they want.

They don't have to listen to some group who follow the messages of a desert cult.

You lot pretend to be good, but you are vile and wicked and intolerant of others and full judgment and hate.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 14, 2013, 07:53:48 AM
God hates gays. This isn't just in Islam but all major religions. The people of sodom and gomorrah were destroyed by God and this is in the Quran and Bible. Homosexuality is a disgusting thing and should be stopped yet we see it being encouraged! I mean here in the USA ANYONE(Muslim, Christian or Jew) who comes out and says no to gays is scolded and labeled as intolerant. Like that whole chic-fil-a thing a few months ago(idk if you have those in AUS)

I won't speak for Islamic theology, but I will say that from a Christian perspective I think many folks get this wrong.  The "God hates gays" notion is incorrect.  God hates sin and loves the sinner....that was the point of Calvary.  He wants those in sin to change their minds about that sin and follow him away from that sin.  The sinner isn't hated...the sinner is loved...that's why Christ died for us.  He paid the debt for all our sins (the perfect sacrifice) and we must believe in him and confess him as Lord and Savior, but we must also consciously and actively change our minds about and turn away from our sin (whatever that may be for each of us).  We will be forgiven of that sin if we accept Jesus as God, Lord and Savior, but we must also live our lives actively changing our minds about sin and proactively turning from ours sins.  God's forgiveness isn't a "get outta jail free card" allowing us to continue in our sin, but we can't do enough on our own to be forgiven of the sin...there aren't enough human works.  Only now by believing in Christ and acknowledging his perfect sacrifice on the cross are we truly forgiven.  We are all sinners....you, me, all of us.  Some folks lie, some folks committ adultery, some engage in homosexuality, some people steal from others....all sin, all require the shed blood of Christ to pay for that sin and to be forgiven.  Then we must actively walk with Christ and move away from sin, but some sin is much more difficult to shed than others...I personally believe that folks entrenched in homosexuality have a much more difficult journey than others.  We can't exclude these folks from our churches and refuse to love them because of their sin.....we're sinners too!!   As believers we must love them as Christ did, share the gospel with them, encourage them, love them, educate them and help them....that's what I believe.    


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 08:42:17 AM
God hates sinners and loves dooers of good. GOd is most merciful and would accept sincere repantance of those that were once sinning whatever the sin may be.

However to say "God loves sinners" is rhetorical non-sense of the chruch not scriptural at all, as God destroyed Sodom and Gomor and made an example of that brutally. Fact.

It's so funny listening to you saying what you're saying MOS, when you have gay priets and gay preachers now publicly endorsed and 'gay marriage' in the church. You are the ones perverting God's message and God's law and that's why you have all this misguidance. God does not love sinners. God does not love sin. God loves mankind that is obedient and good.

It doesn't even make sense a gay priest who likes to f guys, but then 'preaches the word of God' riight. Sodom and Gomorah my friend, Sodom and gomorah...

Bottom line is these sinners also have been brainwashed to believe they can keep doing what they're doing because they are already 'saved' for worshiping Jesus a man.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 14, 2013, 09:18:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayw3I5I_06U


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 14, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
God destroyed a whole tribe of people for being Homos and fufuilling their lust with men! now how can anyone a Muslim, Christian or Jew be ok with seeing guys holding hands and kissing on the streets?



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2013, 11:01:45 AM
God destroyed a whole tribe of people for being Homos and fufuilling their lust with men! now how can anyone a Muslim, Christian or Jew be ok with seeing guys holding hands and kissing on the streets?



It only bothers closet homosexuals.

Other people don't care.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 14, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
It only bothers closet homosexuals.

Other people don't care.

ok  ::).


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 14, 2013, 12:15:53 PM
God hates sinners and loves dooers of good. GOd is most merciful and would accept sincere repantance of those that were once sinning whatever the sin may be.

However to say "God loves sinners" is rhetorical non-sense of the chruch not scriptural at all, as God destroyed Sodom and Gomor and made an example of that brutally. Fact.

It's so funny listening to you saying what you're saying MOS, when you have gay priets and gay preachers now publicly endorsed and 'gay marriage' in the church. You are the ones perverting God's message and God's law and that's why you have all this misguidance. God does not love sinners. God does not love sin. God loves mankind that is obedient and good.

It doesn't even make sense a gay priest who likes to f guys, but then 'preaches the word of God' riight. Sodom and Gomorah my friend, Sodom and gomorah...

Bottom line is these sinners also have been brainwashed to believe they can keep doing what they're doing because they are already 'saved' for worshiping Jesus a man.

God destroyed a whole tribe of people for being Homos and fufuilling their lust with men! now how can anyone a Muslim, Christian or Jew be ok with seeing guys holding hands and kissing on the streets?

This is one of the primary differences between Islam and Christianity; although, no offense, but you do tend to blend Catholicism and Christianity from time to time  ;) ....they are not one and the same.

Gay priests and gay marriage in the church is an example of an extremist position and does not represent the whole of Christianity or Christ...this represents a small, extremist example of corrupted believe in a sect of the church illustrated in your post for the sake of impact.  This extremist position neither represents Christ nor the vast majority of Christianity.  Your reference more accurately represents aspects of the Catholic church; regardless, I've heard of "Christian churches" supporting gay marriage.  Again, this extremely small sect has no bearing on nor does it represent the whole of Christianity or Christ....it's just a fun fact to post in moments like this.  I could easily post all the negativity about Islam or Christianity, but that's not who I am.  I leave others to that pursuit if they so desire.

Yes, there are examples of God punishing people in the bible....wiping them off the face of the earth.  We can look at the examples of the Amalekites or the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah or the flood narrative.  What’s unique about these circumstances?  The whole of the populace in all cases was completely corrupted by sin and depravity…all kinds of sin.  Sodom and Gomorrah was so steeped in sin (homosexuality being one of the sins) and had been for so long that God knew they were not going to change...he knew the contents of their hearts……they were completely entrenched in sin and fully unrepentant.   In his mercy, God told Abraham if he could find even 10 righteous folks within the cities that he would spare the whole….just 10.  Although, 10 could not be found.  Still, within God’s mercy he wiped out these cities and prevented future generations from succumbing to the same, inevitable, unrepentant sinful ways of prior generations....it's brutal, but also compelling and merciful.   Leaves a solid example of God's power, mercy and judgment and ultimately lets us consider how seriously God considers our sin and the penalty for that sin if we ignore him and remain unrepentant.   Still, there are many other examples of God’s grace and mercy throughout scripture.  Instances of second, third, fourth chances given to folks caught in sin; still those that refuse to change their minds about sin will die in their sin eternally separated from our God, Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.    

As I mentioned above salvation through Christ is NOT a license to sin.  God does love the sinner, that's the point of Calvary….he died for all of us!  Unfortunately not all will come to Christ.   Yes, scripture says God hates the wicked, but that hatred is due to unrepentant hearts that choose sin over God…it’s our sin that mars us and makes us wicked.  We are all wicked (lost) because of our sin, but the shed blood of Christ serves as atonement for all that believe and repent.  That’s why the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in believers is so important because the Holy Spirit gives us fresh eyes and convicts us when we begin to step out of line….even though we’re made new in Christ, we will sin.   A believer engages in a lifelong walk with Christ in an attempt to be Christ like in our actions guided by the Holy Spirit whom we are indwelt.  Despite all of that, I already know that idea is absolutely hilarious and nonsensical to you, but I'm concerned with others now.

Leviticus 17:11
11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.

Matthew 26:28
28 for this is my blood, which confirms the covenant between God and his people. It is poured out as a sacrifice to forgive the sins of many.

Ephesians 2:1-10
2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


We are absolutely meant to do good works in Christ, but our good works without Christ will not serve as atonement for our sins.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 01:36:11 PM
Quote
Yes, scripture says God hates the wicked, but that hatred is due to unrepentant hearts that choose sin over God…it’s our sin that mars us and makes us wicked.

No need for a long response, those that continue to sin are deliberate sinners and not repentant. There is plenty of knowledge on what is a sin and isn't a sin. God hates sin and the wicked. What is society becoming? Less corrupt or more corrupt? Certainly more corrupt as that which is forbidden by God is becoming a-okayed by Godless people and even enforced as law!

I already stated before God is the most forgiving but homosexuals who persist in this sin will not get a free ticket as you jump from and to back and forth with 'salvation' by worshipping Jesus a man created by God.

Salvation comes through the mercy and forgiveness of God not human sacrifice.

My point is scripture says one thing but you jump around with 'salvation' and the usual emotional rhetoric of 'love'. It's only emotional rhetoric and not factual to scripture. What you label as offshoot small followings or sects or whatever you want to call them are becoming the norm.

Because you do not follow God's law and you follow man made law, that is why there is so much divergence. Don't blame the Roman Church from which Christianity ultimately spread from for it (Catholics).

The presentation of christianity has changed from you are going to hell for not worshipping Jesus/trinity and you are going to hell for sin a, sin b, to hey its okay just worship Jesus you are saved by this and that  love. :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 14, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
No need for a long response, those that continue to sin are deliberate sinners and not repentant. There is plenty of knowledge on what is a sin and isn't a sin. God hates sin and the wicked. What is society becoming? Less corrupt or more corrupt? Certainly more corrupt as that which is forbidden by God is becoming a-okayed by Godless people and even enforced as law!

I already stated before God is the most forgiving but homosexuals who persist in this sin will not get a free ticket as you jump from and to back and forth with 'salvation' by worshipping Jesus a man created by God.

Salvation comes through the mercy and forgiveness of God not human sacrifice.

My point is scripture says one thing but you jump around with 'salvation' and the usual emotional rhetoric of 'love'. It's only emotional rhetoric and not factual to scripture. What you label as offshoot small followings or sects or whatever you want to call them are becoming the norm.

Because you do not follow God's law and you follow man made law, that is why there is so much divergence. Don't blame the Roman Church from which Christianity ultimately spread from for it (Catholics).

The presentation of christianity has changed from you are going to hell for not worshipping Jesus/trinity and you are going to hell for sin a, sin b, to hey its okay just worship Jesus you are saved by this and that  love. :)
No emotional rhetoric was used, just scripture.   God's law is always followed.  Salvation is a gift from God based on our faith in Christ.  Scripture is not "man made", that's a convenient "go to" expression used by opponents of Christianity that has no merit or weight whatsoever.  I didn't blame the Roman church for anything, I indicated that catholicism and christianity are not the same thing.  The presentation of Christianity was not changed by me in anything I said.

 


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 14, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
MOS please tell us the diffrences about christians/catholics? is it like Sunni/Shia in islam?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
Catholic means universal. It is the Roman church which in essence was the primary christianity. Everything else were offshoots. Then again the real original christians were neither, they were jews who followed the law and the teachings of Jesus.

The east and western church split, the eastern church was the orthodox and the western the roman catholic church. That's why roman catholic church is so pagan in the sense that it tried to appease the pagans. Hence statues and worship of statues of Jesus, mary, etc... 'mary mother of god' etc... etc...

Later movements were in fact revisionist movements such as protestantism which was adopted by the british king because of political and personal motives of wanting to mary/divorce/etc...

The only true christians were the followers of Jesus, the law, and followers of his teachings, etc... everything later was a battle for 'what christianity is'. That's why Paul had such opposition and was viewed as a fraud, that's why the church within itself had so much strife about who Jesus was, who God is, etc... and the trinity. The councils, etc...

A lot of debate happened.

In fact in the 1500s, Martin Luther is the one acredited to the protestant movement, the printing of the bible etc...

Making the bible 'available' for the common man as up to a point ALL preaching was in latin and only the elite knew latin and could have access to the bible.

The catholic priests usd to 'buy people their way into heaven' a once common practice of taking money to literally buy your way into heaven. Protestantism was a response to the many corruptions of the church in some ways.

Then you have further offshoots coming into america like the puritans, southern baptists, pentecostals,

All basically renewed and renewed movements.

Catholicism is really the one that stays true to the original roman church which blended with the roman pagans and took shape. Catholic roughly translates to 'universal' as in for everyone. "The universal church". I went to catholic school myself, but I also ventured into the protestant church.

Protestants for example are opposed to idols that catholics engage in.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: bigbobs on January 14, 2013, 05:59:10 PM
No emotional rhetoric was used, just scripture.   God's law is always followed.  Salvation is a gift from God based on our faith in Christ.  Scripture is not "man made", that's a convenient "go to" expression used by opponents of Christianity that has no merit or weight whatsoever.  I didn't blame the Roman church for anything, I indicated that catholicism and christianity are not the same thing.  The presentation of Christianity was not changed by me in anything I said.

 

A gift is not conditional on faith in something.  If Jesus did die for our sins, why would we then have to believe that he did just in order for his death's purpose to be fulfilled? 


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 06:00:45 PM
Salam bobber :) been a while my bro :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: bigbobs on January 14, 2013, 06:01:45 PM
Salam bobber :) been a while my bro :)

Yup thought I'd drop by :)  Seems like there's a lot to catch up on and I do have to get going but will peek again later.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
Did you know at one point the 'masses' being held, the preacher would never face the people, he would face them their back. It was in recent history that these 'small' things were changed. All masses were in latin too. So people were just led like blind sheeple. Whatever they were told is what they would believe, unable to read the scriptures for themselves, unable to understand latin, etc...

Protestantism also led the way to abolish the impermissibility of clergy marrying. As you know catholic priests are not allowed to marry and are sworn to celibacy their whole life.

Again things that are all man made and against the natural order of God's creation.. so people in christianity are confused. Unlike in islam, we HAVE the original message period, whoever deviates like sects, we know they are deviant and we can point out how, however with christianity from the very basis there was debate what it even is to be a christian, who jesus is/was, who God is, etc... On the very core.

The fact that the roman church abolish God's law and replaced it with men made laws, is in part the tribulation in christiainty.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 14, 2013, 06:14:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN1bTGCPQgw


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 15, 2013, 02:16:41 AM
Can you post a video where it says allah will send you to hell for smelling your own farts?

I'm trying to educate myself.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 15, 2013, 03:41:31 AM
Did you know at one point the 'masses' being held, the preacher would never face the people, he would face them their back. It was in recent history that these 'small' things were changed. All masses were in latin too. So people were just led like blind sheeple. Whatever they were told is what they would believe, unable to read the scriptures for themselves, unable to understand latin, etc...

Protestantism also led the way to abolish the impermissibility of clergy marrying. As you know catholic priests are not allowed to marry and are sworn to celibacy their whole life.

Again things that are all man made and against the natural order of God's creation.. so people in christianity are confused. Unlike in islam, we HAVE the original message period, whoever deviates like sects, we know they are deviant and we can point out how, however with christianity from the very basis there was debate what it even is to be a christian, who jesus is/was, who God is, etc... On the very core.

The fact that the roman church abolish God's law and replaced it with men made laws, is in part the tribulation in christiainty.

That's what everyone from every religion says. Do you not even see the irony here?

Even Buddhists are the same, they say the same sort of thing and have all their own justifications,, 'proofs' etc of why they're right and the other cults are wrong.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: bigbobs on January 15, 2013, 09:44:03 AM
That's what everyone from every religion says. Do you not even see the irony here?

Untrue.  Name one Christian scholar who claims that the current day Bible is constructed from original manuscripts noted during the time of Jesus.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 15, 2013, 09:59:44 AM
Untrue.  Name one Christian scholar who claims that the current day Bible is constructed from original manuscripts noted during the time of Jesus.

There were no manuscripts during the time Christ was on this earth as a man.  The transmission of the gospel (before and after Christ's ascension) was done via oral tradition for many years before the first manuscripts were written (although the originals no longer exist....lost and destroyed).  Memorization and oral communication was a tradition of the Jews and first Christians.  The first Christians spent so many years in missionary service repeating the gospel over and over and over again it was seared into their brains LOL!  Now, in early 2012 a 1st century manuscript of the gospel of Mark was found.  I've been waiting for a year to hear the findings....supposed to be published early this year.  Will be interesting having a 1st century manuscript written during the lives of eyewitnesses of Christ; in addition, a manuscript of Mark that shaped the synoptic gospels (Matthew and Luke).  That's why the field of textual criticism is so important.  I'm currently reading Daniel Wallace's book "Reinventing Jesus" concerning NT manuscripts and the field of textual criticism.  It's a great refutation of those positions held by non textual critics (Jesus Seminar members) and liberal, textual critic Bart Ehrman that created such a stink with his extremist book "Misquoting Jesus".  


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 15, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
There were no manuscripts during the time Christ was on this earth as a man.  The transmission of the gospel (before and after Christ's ascension) was done via oral tradition for many years before the first manuscripts were written (although the originals no longer exist....lost and destroyed).  Memorization and oral communication was a tradition of the Jews and first Christians.  The first Christians spent so many years in missionary service repeating the gospel over and over and over again it was seared into their brains LOL!  Now, in early 2012 a 1st century manuscript of the gospel of Mark was found.  I've been waiting for a year to hear the findings....supposed to be published early this year.  Will be interesting having a 1st century manuscript written during the lives of eyewitnesses of Christ; in addition, a manuscript of Mark that shaped the synoptic gospels (Matthew and Luke).  That's why the field of textual criticism is so important.  I'm currently reading Daniel Wallace's book "Reinventing Jesus" concerning NT manuscripts and the field of textual criticism.  It's a great refutation of those positions held by non textual critics (Jesus Seminar members) and liberal, textual critic Bart Ehrman that created such a stink with his extremist book "Misquoting Jesus".  

Same with Buddhism. They still even practice this, some monks are apparently able to memorize all their texts.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 15, 2013, 10:38:38 AM
Untrue.  Name one Christian scholar who claims that the current day Bible is constructed from original manuscripts noted during the time of Jesus.

Well Islam used some of those texts, so its even worse for them!

Even more recycled and changed to fit in with their local culture.

As mentioned before, the culture of the pagan nomadic tribes of Arabia were incorporated into their new religion as was the black rock they pray to. This rock was worshiped by all the pagan tribes.

Islam is a fusion of local Arabic tribal culture with that of the Monotheistic books of Judaism and Christianity. Out of this combination, a new religion was formed.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 15, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
A gift is not conditional on faith in something.  If Jesus did die for our sins, why would we then have to believe that he did just in order for his death's purpose to be fulfilled?  

I think I understand what you’re suggesting, but let me be clear on this.  Jesus sacrifice on Calvary’s cross was fulfilled by him and him alone…we did nothing to help fulfill his purpose in anyway whatsoever.  Christ died for all of us and paid the debt for all of our sins.  All we do is make a choice to either accept or reject him.  Let’s say, I present you a gift and say, “Hey bigbobs, from me to you, enjoy.”   You’re under no obligation to me.  At that point you’re free to do whatever you choose with the gift…accept it, reject it, ignore it, toss it...whatever you please.  On the Big Bang Theory, Sheldon Cooper hates gifts because he says it creates  a “binding social contract in which he’s forced to reciprocate in an equivalent manner”.   The truth of the matter is that simply isn’t correct….gift giving should be unconditional on behalf of the giver and in Christ’s case it absolutely is.  

As I posted above in some concluding scripture, we are saved by grace through faith.  Christ’s gift of salvation is a free gift to all and believers simply express acceptance of that gift through their faith.  I suppose one could be hardcore and say, “Well, there is a condition on salvation because we have to make a choice!”   Some folks don’t want Christ’s gift of salvation and ironically it’s those folks that would demand a choice…..”Man, I’m forced to choose, but I better have a choice in the matter!!”   They want nothing to do with Christ and prefer to be permanently separated from him….these folks need the ability to choose to opt out so they’re given that ability (and some still don’t like it LOL).  It’s our ability to choose to accept or reject that makes all the difference.  Christ wants us to desire him like he desires us…he wants us to freely choose him like he chooses us.   Relationships are a two way street and Christ did the hard part for us already, all we have to do is accept or reject him.

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 15, 2013, 01:45:20 PM
Well Islam used some of those texts, so its even worse for them!

Even more recycled and changed to fit in with their local culture.

As mentioned before, the culture of the pagan nomadic tribes of Arabia were incorporated into their new religion as was the black rock they pray to. This rock was worshiped by all the pagan tribes.

Islam is a fusion of local Arabic tribal culture with that of the Monotheistic books of Judaism and Christianity. Out of this combination, a new religion was formed.

Whenever its said that Islam used or recyled text it makes me laugh. As the writing in the qur'an is NOTHING like the bible. The bible and the quran are NOTHING alike... NOTHING.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Griffith on January 15, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
Whenever its said that Islam used or recyled text it makes me laugh. As the writing in the qur'an is NOTHING like the bible. The bible and the quran are NOTHING alike... NOTHING.

So the same/similar stories from the Torah/Talmud and New Testament just happen to be by some strange coincidence in the Koran....

600 years after the fact and after Mohamed had visited the regions where those books were from and heard those tales....

He then comes back, disappears in a cave for a long amount of time and just happens to oneday come out with a book with similar stories which also just happens to conveniently fit in with local culture and customs...


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 15, 2013, 02:55:32 PM
So your 'proof' that its 'plagarized' is that the same events are mentioned  ::) Yet the bible and quran sound NOTHING alike in structure, eloquence, language, presentation, etc...

Wow imagine that! One God, sending messengers to mankind, and the next messenger reccounting what happened or being told what happened?

 ::)

So I guess  the jews stole from Abraham who stole from Noah and Adam? Do you even make sense?

Islam reaffirms what was, this is fact. And quite clearly so it reaffirms both Jewish and Christian accounts even with jesus. The things Jews flock at Jesus the quran denounces and honors Jesus. What lies later roman christians invented, the qur'an denounces and sticks to the original.

Christians are unaware of the realities of the accusations  thrown at Jesus and Mary and live in a fantasy that it was all jolly happy with baby Jesus coming into this world and Mary getting a baby out of marriage for instance. Just one small fact. In which case the qur'an is closer to the Jewish representation (factual) but denouncing the lewd accusations, slander and their own self glorification saying they killed Jesus. Jews don't love Christians, but evangelical christians have this fantasy of worshipping Israel and Jews. Jews hate Jesus and hate Christians.

No one in this world accepts Jesus besides Christians and Muslims. We accept Jesus as the messiah. It's just Christians that turned Jesus into a god. Jews rejected Jesus as the messiah. Messiah does not mean being God.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 16, 2013, 08:46:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspCap2jniw


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 17, 2013, 05:20:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMQp6_fd7Q


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 17, 2013, 11:28:45 AM
I enjoyed both sides of the debate, but approximately 1 hour and 14 minutes into the debate I simply shook my head and LOL'd....thought I'd share:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tqlKW8qQ5A


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 17, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/582504_10151288544883122_2049170733_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 17, 2013, 04:53:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnvZuIKOvQ


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 17, 2013, 05:07:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QR1QxYeSxQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HiD6larsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oIFfY7JQDc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 17, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/582504_10151288544883122_2049170733_n.jpg)

this is awesome!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 17, 2013, 11:26:14 PM
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs4/i/2004/239/b/6/Beautiful_Mosque_No_2.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 17, 2013, 11:28:36 PM
(http://smashmaterials.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cyristal.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 17, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
(http://blessedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Masjid-Nabawi1.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on January 18, 2013, 04:50:40 AM
^^^^ Good to see the repressed Muslim homosexuality coming out in their architecture.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 18, 2013, 06:39:32 AM
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs4/i/2004/239/b/6/Beautiful_Mosque_No_2.jpg)

(http://smashmaterials.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cyristal.jpg)

(http://blessedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Masjid-Nabawi1.jpg)

That is absolutely incredible....would enjoy seeing these places in person some day!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 18, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlww6zvAe_o

Another example of someone that associates with the Christian church calling themselves a Christian, but clearly not.  Approx 1 minute into the clip:  "I was a Christian.  I was looking for a religion and I was studying Christianity.  I belonged to the Baptist...uh..uh...sect. ....and I read the bible and I was happy with Christianity."  Clearly not a Christian, no mention of salvation in Jesus Christ, doesn't understand basic terminology, etc...she clearly associated with the Christian church....association doesn't make one a Christian.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 18, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvCU-4TE-ec

"Buddhist Christian"...enough said.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 18, 2013, 12:16:17 PM
actually he was a budhist who then became a christian then became a Muslim ;) Oh and he definetely went through the phase of being 'saved' obviously it wasn't the truth for him :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 18, 2013, 01:02:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJb6UW45RTs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mufhvLifff0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 18, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Thank you akhi for sharing all that mashAllah :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 18, 2013, 03:11:18 PM
Thank you akhi for sharing all that mashAllah :)

 ;) I love the way Luhaidan recites. Nassar al Qatami and Idris Akbar are also very good!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 18, 2013, 03:21:55 PM
My wife loves the recitation of ahmad bin ali al-ajami, recently you shared one such surah recited by him mashAllah :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 18, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVE9-x8ZwI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 18, 2013, 04:48:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpHFCQKuEGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVMxOK0lDU8



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 18, 2013, 09:54:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7YF58ygric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUbrww6kcIg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-lJn5HfOcs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_O3_dzTF9k

Yes, I know im posting alot! deal with it!  :P lol.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 19, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
Show us some more palaces and you can kill all the people you want.

We will believe in you!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 19, 2013, 09:55:05 AM
Show us some more palaces and you can kill all the people you want.

We will believe in you!

(http://memecrunch.com/image/4fb3164c1861336f9f00113d.jpg)


1. those are not Palaces, but Mosques(houses of worship). As a school teacher you should know that...

2. for the 1,000,000th time: Murdering innocent people is a grave sin, why do I have to keep telling you this?

So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)



Say: 'Come and I will recite to you what your Lord has made forbidden for you': that you do not associate anything with Him; that you are good to your parents; that you do not kill your children because of poverty   - We will provide for you and them; that you do not approach indecency - outward or inward; that you do not kill any person God has made inviolate   - except with the right to do so. That is what He instructs you to do so that hopefully you will use your intellect. (Qur'an 6: 151)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 19, 2013, 01:37:44 PM
1. The First World War 17 million dead (caused by non-Muslims)

2. The Second World War 50-55 million dead (caused by non-Muslims)

3. Nagasaki atomic bombs 200,000 dead (caused by non-Muslims)

4. The war in Vietnam over 5 million dead (caused by non-Muslims)

5. The war in Bosnia / Kosovo over 500,000 dead (caused by non-Muslims)

6. War in Iraq (so far) 1,200,000 deaths (caused by non-Muslims)

7. Afghanistan, Burma etc. (caused by Non-Muslims)

You still think that Islam is the problem?!

And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "Verily we are peacemakers."

"Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not."
(2:11-12)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 19, 2013, 01:47:47 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/156217_442416089140690_2119727269_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 19, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Well well isn't someone a sore loser ::D


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 19, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyUVeqwDEc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 19, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Iq6uYm8dU


Title: Islamic Slaughter and Power of Gods name and prayer
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 19, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
People alwas ask "what is Halal meat?" well these video shows those who wonder. Also shows how saying the name of Allah and saying a prayer calms the animal making it completely relaxed. the video is flimmed in Texas.

Part 1(how the name of God and a prayer calms the animal, making it lie down on the ground without holding/tieing it up)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC9liKYdYM

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF3mK5XRv9E

NOTE: Part two shows actual slaughter of animal so dont watch if your weak in the stomach.

no animal cruelty in Islam.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on January 20, 2013, 04:08:21 AM
Not as sore as that poor little girl was after a night with your "prophet"

Jesus came 500 years before Mohamed, go see during that time period what they did to little girls, im just embarrased to type it, vaginal penetration by fathers on there young daughters, selling there 3 year od girls as sex slaves etc.

Child brides was prevalent years before Mohamed came into the picture, just read into the byzantine emporers who would marry 8 year old girls.

Mary had jesus when she was 12-14 years old.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 20, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405994_10151293305773122_1056649771_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 20, 2013, 09:55:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ofpPTYxrLA


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 20, 2013, 05:43:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQC4bu3qd2w


Title: Muslims Enforcing Sharia Law On The Streets Of London
Post by: Radical Plato on January 21, 2013, 06:42:22 AM
I look forward to the day these Islamic Camel Jockeys are expelled from civilised nations everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unl7D7ZmBs


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 21, 2013, 07:43:54 AM
Mary had jesus when she was 12-14 years old.

Can you back up Mary's age at Christ's birth with any biblical scripture or non-speculative references (ex: no "We think she may..." or "It is possible..." or "It is believed that....").   

Just curious.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 21, 2013, 11:39:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC9liKYdYM

Im going to post this again. take a look and see how animals react to the name of God.

a skittish, scared animal fighting and screaming suddenly becomes calm and completey still when hearing the name of Allah.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 21, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHC9liKYdYM

Im going to post this again. take a look and see how animals react to the name of God.

a skittish, scared animal fighting and screaming suddenly becomes calm and completey still when hearing the name of Allah.

Perfectly fine to post this again, but know that your thread wasn't deleted.  It was merged into this existing video thread.  You'll find it on page 32.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 21, 2013, 01:12:06 PM
“And whoso does evil or wrongs his soul, and then asks forgiveness of Allah, will surely find Allah Most Forgiving, Merciful.”

[Qur'an 4:110]


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 21, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
Perfectly fine to post this again, but know that your thread wasn't deleted.  It was merged into this existing video thread.  You'll find it on page 32.

Thanks!

ya i know you didnt delete , lol I just love the video and think it deserves a double post thats all.


Title: Re: Muslims Enforcing Sharia Law On The Streets Of London
Post by: stingray on January 21, 2013, 04:20:10 PM
I look forward to the day these Islamic Camel Jockeys are expelled from civilised nations everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unl7D7ZmBs

I look forward to the days that jews/christians/buddhists who attack/bomb/slaughter muslims land and people 24 hrs a day, using the latest weapons and technology are expelled from civilised nations everywhere.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 21, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwhOPNP1Wo8


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 21, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ofpPTYxrLA
The solution for poverty is the empowerment of women and giving them control of their own reproduction, something that Islam does not allow.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 21, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
The solution for poverty is the empowerment of women and giving them control of their own reproduction, something that Islam does not allow.

1. Muslim women can get educated infact it is ENCOURAGED for women to be doctors, teachers ..ect this way women can avoid seeing male doctors or being taught by male teachers

2. Women CAN WORK(if her husband is ok with it). and she keeps ALL of her money. the husband MUST pay for ALL of the familys expenses, but the women is free from the obligation and can spend it(or not spend it) how ever she wishes.

3. YES! some muslim contries(infact many of them) opress women, abuse them, leave them without education..ect. But that is not ISLAM and what ISLAM TEACHES!

Islam is is perfect, people are not.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 21, 2013, 10:34:21 PM
1. Muslim women can get educated infact it is ENCOURAGED for women to be doctors, teachers ..ect this way women can avoid seeing male doctors or being taught by male teachers

2. Women CAN WORK(if her husband is ok with it). and she keeps ALL of her money. the husband MUST pay for ALL of the familys expenses, but the women is free from the obligation and can spend it(or not spend it) how ever she wishes.

3. YES! some muslim contries(infact many of them) opress women, abuse them, leave them without education..ect. But that is not ISLAM and what ISLAM TEACHES!

Islam is is perfect, people are not.
::)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 21, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
::)

thats the truth man. Like i alwas say.

Islam is a perfect religion. Muslims(we are all human beings) are not. all humans make mistakes/do wrong (except for the prophets ofcourse, like Moses, Jesus and Muhammad ect peace be upon them ALL)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 22, 2013, 02:49:26 AM
thats the truth man. Like i alwas say.

Islam is a perfect religion. Muslims(we are all human beings) are not. all humans make mistakes/do wrong (except for the prophets ofcourse, like Moses, Jesus and Muhammad ect peace be upon them ALL)
So the truth, in your view, is that women are inferior and subject to the will of men.

There is no other way to interpret that. That's fine, but you don't get to claim otherwise from now on.

Be consistent or don't post.

 


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 22, 2013, 03:53:29 AM
So the truth, in your view, is that women are inferior and subject to the will of men.

There is no other way to interpret that. That's fine, but you don't get to claim otherwise from now on.

Be consistent or don't post.

 

No one said inferior, don't put words in my mouth.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 22, 2013, 08:49:40 AM
- *WHO IS THIS OLD MAN?

*He passed away (07.01.2013), but who was he?

*If he had been some famous singer or footballer, all the medias would report his death.

*This did not happen, since it was not of such people who disrupt corporate morale, was not a singer, nor a top model.

*Who is this old man than???


*This is Shaykh al-Al-lamah: Muhammed Al-BAKKALI, one of the greatest Muhaddithins (One who knows all the sayings of Muhammad hadith by heart - or at least 200 thousand hadiths are needed to get this title) in the world. He is from the city of Tanger-Morocco. From this famous hadith scholar learned and graduated more than 1000 scholars of hadith, from Morocco and outside Morocco. He lived 100 years.

*If you read this, please Share this post and dont forget to make dua for this great scholar. May Allah reward him for his great work

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314116_302849876484947_1777393496_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 22, 2013, 09:01:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThafXZXCZAk


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 22, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/582357_455161147866184_273514958_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 22, 2013, 09:32:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWfI0MZIQGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZK2_amJInM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWbT8S84kFs


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 22, 2013, 10:07:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1oPoL3yHQY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSiiND8yaxo


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 22, 2013, 11:04:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYkrQNm3-Q

There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 23, 2013, 12:53:07 AM
Islam is so incredibly boring.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on January 23, 2013, 01:17:17 PM
Islam is so incredibly boring.



Yeah your right.Muslims cant go night clubs, get drunk, go get all the pussy they want, do whatever they desire. Its a small sacrifice i will pay to live in paradise when i die for ever where i can do anything i absoultely want.




Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 23, 2013, 02:58:25 PM
God is so merciful, he provides to all of mankind even if they are haughty or ungrateful. How many things to people take for granted each day, or do not realize what they have.

Every ungrateful person will only see what they don't have but miss out on the details of what they have.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on January 23, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
Wrong, camel jockey.  You'll burn in hell just like your illiterate pedophile "prophet"

Hope this helps.

is that the best you can say "camel jockey".

What do you think people 1500 years ago mode of transportation was?

Did they have cars or motorbikes back then? scooters?bicycle?

Im not offended out the word camel jockey, because camels and horses were the only mode of transportation used in that time.

Maybe its a ploy by the pagans.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 23, 2013, 08:19:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKyEwIeTIJc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 23, 2013, 08:28:05 PM
Wrong, camel jockey.  You'll burn in hell just like your illiterate pedophile "prophet"

Hope this helps.

you need to sit down in a quite room and reflect on lie. Your going down a bad path.


camel jockey?......... typical name calling. is it funny how ALL important events in history have been in the middle east? saudi arabia, iraq, yemen,eygpt, Palistine...All VERY IMPORTANT places where ALL of the most important prophets have come from. its funny huh, how in the USA/europe people talk trash and mock people from that area, yet JESUS himself was from there.

If YOU saw Jesus,Noah, Moses, Muhammad today without knowing who they were you would laugh and call him a Camel jockey. infact they would get double checked and screened at airports!

It is YOU THAT IS A LOSER.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 23, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blw-ZaY_V70

go to 9:18

Muslim man prays in a MOB of angry haters. this man has insanely strong IMAN! Mashallah! they mock him while he is doing Salah, yet he is strong and firm!. a true muslim. May Allah be happy with him.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 23, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwtpNgFw5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZJ24VBxJE


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 24, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
Just ignore this low life guys. He's not interested in learning anything.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
yea, im just going to ignore Alvin. Hes nothing but a devil trying to divert people off the path of God.

21:34 - 21:35 - We never decreed immortality for anyone before you; should you die, are they immortal? Every soul will taste death, after we put you to the test through adversity and prosperity, then to us you will ultimately return.

30:8 - Why do they not reflect on themselves? ALLAH did not create the Heavens and the Earth, and everything between them, except for a specific purpose, and for a specific life span. However, most people, with regard to meeting their Lord, are disbelievers.

35:3 - O people, remember ALLAH's blessings upon you. Is there any creator other than ALLAH who provides for you from the heaven and the Earth? There is no other god beside Him. How could you deviate


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 10:27:45 AM
21:18 - 21:20 - Instead, it is our plan to support the truth against falsehood, in order to defeat it. Woe to you for the utterances you utter. To Him belongs everyone in the Heavens and the Earth, and those at Him are never too arrogant to worship Him, nor do they ever waver. They glorify night and day without ever tiring


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on January 24, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
God is so merciful, he provides to all of mankind even if they are haughty or ungrateful. How many things to people take for granted each day, or do not realize what they have.

Every ungrateful person will only see what they don't have but miss out on the details of what they have.

This is soooo completely true!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 24, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
I love camels  ;D Horses too. They're awesome. I wish I had the time to do some horse riding here in Canada (srs). I rode horses when I was younger.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
I love camels  ;D Horses too. They're awesome. I wish I had the time to do some horse riding here in Canada (srs). I rode horses when I was younger.

I love ALL animals, although it would be impossible to have a pet camel here. people walk their dogs, im walking my camel LOL.

love to have horse, their powerful animals, but expensive!


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 24, 2013, 01:56:54 PM
Cats are cool and there is a sahaba (companion) of the prophet (pbuh) who was dubbed abu hurairah, which means father of kittens. :P

Also Muhammad (pbuh) used to have a cat too if I recall. And some sahaba had birds.

I definitely like cats more than birds though.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Skeletor on January 24, 2013, 03:20:09 PM
Cats are cool and there is a sahaba (companion) of the prophet (pbuh) who was dubbed abu hurairah, which means father of kittens. :P

Also Muhammad (pbuh) used to have a cat too if I recall. And some sahaba had birds.

I definitely like cats more than birds though.

Muezza?


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 24, 2013, 03:38:52 PM
Cats are winners

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZANClq31rkg/T32FZ7_9l4I/AAAAAAAABZM/MlGWNiTOfr8/s1600/abu+hurairah.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 08:25:44 PM
Cats are winners

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZANClq31rkg/T32FZ7_9l4I/AAAAAAAABZM/MlGWNiTOfr8/s1600/abu+hurairah.jpg)

Big cats are awesome!(lions, tigers, jaguars) there my favorite animals along with Birds.

but in terms of house cats, Birds win all day everyday  ;D

I had a conversation with one of these over the summer(Masha'Allah, they are very good speakers! and beautiful animals overall):

(http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/blue-hyacinth-macaw-parrot-kathy-clark.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 24, 2013, 09:22:32 PM
God is so merciful, he provides to all of mankind even if they are haughty or ungrateful. How many things to people take for granted each day, or do not realize what they have.

Every ungrateful person will only see what they don't have but miss out on the details of what they have.
God is merciful?

He gives kids cancer and lets young mothers burn to death in their homes everyday. He also allowed slave-owners to die fat, happy and rich.

Pull you head out of your ass.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 09:47:12 PM
God is merciful?

He gives kids cancer and lets young mothers burn to death in their homes everyday. He also allowed slave-owners to die fat, happy and rich.

Pull you head out of your ass.

no sir, its YOU that needs to pull your head out.

first off, If God has allowed Slavery who are YOU to say otherwise(as slavery is in ALL the holy books)? why are you so arrogrant? Allah knows whats best, NOT YOU.

secondly the slaves are to be treated NICELY with FULL RIGHTS. infact there is GREAT reward for a person who frees a slave. you think all slavery is somthing like the movie "roots". Just whip them and beat them eh? WRONG.


read this:

Zayd bin Harith  was the son of Harith, of the Makhdhoom tribe that lived to the north of Mecca. During a raid, raiders had captured the boy, Zayd He was taken as a slave and sold at the great fair of Ukaz.   At the festival of Ukaz, Zayd along with a few other slaves were purchased by Hakim bin Hizam and taken back to Mecca. Hakim bin Hizam then offered to Khadijah bint Khuwaylid, the wife of Muhammad, to choose any slave for herself. She chose Zayd, who was then taken to her household. On the occasion of her marriage to Muhammad, Muhammad had set free his slave Baraka. Baraka was a slave woman who was owned by the late father of Muhammad, Abdullah bin Abdul Muttalib. After the passing away of his father, this slave Baraka, had come into the custody of Muhammad. He had set her free on the occasion of marriage to Khadijah bint Khuwaylid. He often referred to (Baraka) her as his ummi (mother) in later days. Also on the occasion of marriage, Khadijah had given Zayd as a gift to her new husband.
 
On one occasion, some people of Makhdhoom were passing through Mecca. Zayd, having seen his own people, composed some poetry, which he left with them to take home to his family. Zayd's father and uncle were searching for their son and nephew and when they received the news of him along with this poetry. They immediately set out for Mecca. Upon entering Mecca, they were informed of Muhammad (in whose custody Zayd was), and set out to find Muhammad. Upon meeting Muhammad, Muhammad first asked Zayd to confirm the identity of these men. After Zayd confirmed the identity of his father and uncle, they offered to pay any price Muhammad wished for Zayd. However, Muhammad presented another offer. He offered a choice to Zayd, that if he wished, he could leave with his father and uncle for no fee, but if he chose to remain in Mecca, he would remain in the custody of Muhammad (as a slave) and his father and uncle would return without dispute.
Zayd, a young man of tender age, surprised everyone, by choosing slavery at the hands of Muhammad over freedom and being re-united with his family. This came as a shock to his father and uncle, who had no choice but to accept the decision of this young man.
 
Muhammad then set out for the Kabah, where he proclaimed his manumitting (freeing) and adoption of Zayd as his own son. This action of Zayd was very heart moving and beloved to Muhammad.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: garebear on January 24, 2013, 09:51:13 PM
secondly the slaves are to be treated NICELY with FULL RIGHTS.
Does this statement even make sense to you?

Are you drunk right now?



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 24, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
secondly the slaves are to be treated NICELY with FULL RIGHTS.
Does this statement even make sense to you?

Are you drunk right now?



No. I dont drink as you know  ;).

Your misunderstanding the word "slave".


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 25, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMG6nFBlVIo


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 25, 2013, 09:44:35 PM
❀ Who is he that will lend ALLAH a good loan so HE may multiply it for him many times over? And it is Allah who withholds and grants abundance, and to Him you will be return...ed. (Quran 2:245)

✿ The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows SEVEN spikes; in each spike is a HUNDRED grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And ALLAH is all-Encompassing and Knowing. (Quran 2:261)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 25, 2013, 09:51:18 PM
❀ Who is he that will lend ALLAH a good loan so HE may multiply it for him many times over? And it is Allah who withholds and grants abundance, and to Him you will be return...ed. (Quran 2:245)

✿ The example of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allah is like a seed [of grain] which grows SEVEN spikes; in each spike is a HUNDRED grains. And Allah multiplies [His reward] for whom He wills. And ALLAH is all-Encompassing and Knowing. (Quran 2:261)

Zakat and Sadaqa! the answer to solving world poverty.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 25, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
this isnt a vid, but interesting article!

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/10/prweb9993129.htm

"With approximately 7 million Muslims living in the USA, American Muslims make up an estimated 170 billion dollar market in several key sectors of the economy such as finance, real estate, food, fashion and entertainment. Since its inception in 2008, the American Muslim Consumer Conference (AMCC) has played a key role in creating awareness for this key growing niche market and has served as a networking platform for several of the key players."


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 26, 2013, 01:18:56 PM
Khadija (RA) The First Believer and Helper of Islam - This noble lady, known to us as Mother of the Believers (Ummul Momineen) and the first wife of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), was the first person ever to accept Islam after it had been revealed to him by Jibreel (Angel Gabriel) What an amazing woman she was. Masha'Allah.

Narrated Abu Musa (radiAllahu anhu) : Allah’s Apostle (sallAllahu alayhi wasallam) said, “Many amongst men reached (the level of) perfection but none amongst the women reached this level except Asia, Pharaoh’s wife, and Mary, the daughter of ‘Imran. And no doubt, the superiority of ‘Aisha to other women is like the superiority of tharid (i.e. a meat and bread dish) to other meals.”

[Sahih Bukhari, Vol 4, Hadith #623]

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 26, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
“If you want to know what’s inside the heart of a person you should listen to what comes out of his mouth .”

Ibn Qayyim

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 27, 2013, 01:16:47 PM
They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)! (9:31)

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 30, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
A young man prostrate to God thanks after escaping from traffic accident

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 30, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 30, 2013, 12:50:21 PM
“Say, “My prayer, my offering, my life and my death are for Allah, the Lord of all the worlds.”

The Holy Quran [6:162]

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on January 31, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
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A verse from the qur'an


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 01, 2013, 10:08:04 AM
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Quote
a brother said:I was drinking in this beautiful mug during my class today, then a Christian guest said: "I am intrigued by your mug" - When I asked 'why'? - he said that he never thought that Muslims love Jesus Christ peace be upon him - and this took us ...a while discussing the virtues and the importance of Jesus Christ PBUH in the house of Islam. Alhamdulilah - You see my brothers and sisters, you don't need to be a scholar to convey the message of Islam, a simple method is sufficient to raise people's curiosity about the faith. So be innovative share your ideas with others :)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 01, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 01, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6SAcBxhg6M


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 02, 2013, 10:36:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lh4ANexvE


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 02, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7JVaNvA3kA


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 02, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u355-b8eKac


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 03, 2013, 01:04:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3TR04-oIR0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Maddy on February 03, 2013, 07:58:52 PM


35 pages
of archaic
ignorance and
self serving
arrogance


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 03, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvQRrOqd7Yg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIzxU95OvIM


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 07, 2013, 10:17:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3b7CEt2oA


Title: An islamic response to an incident in the UK pertaining individual's actions
Post by: a_ahmed on February 07, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpDJTBBwrKM


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 07, 2013, 01:58:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt3tlyPkTeA


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 08, 2013, 10:26:08 AM
You know one of the oppositions the pagan arabs had towards Islam and Muhammad (pbuh) one of the things they found very hard to accept to believe in was that they would be shown what they did, what they said, that they would be able to see themselves, hear themselves, etc... All their actions and said things would be repeated to them on the day of judgment.

It's funny today on the other hand that we accept this possibility as the norm, we know there is such a thing as cameras, audio/video, microphones, speakers, etc... and what are these inventions compared to the creation of Allah (swt) and the abilities of our creator of all creation?

This picture made me think about this again:

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 08, 2013, 10:44:41 AM
Valentine's day hah :P No we Muslims don't celebrate this pagan feast, although some muslims ignorantly do, but this is exactly the kind of thing one needs to think of :)

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It could have been the splash of red or the overabundance of hearts or the young man in designer jeans that caught his eye, but Sheikh Hamaad stopped under the bold “Valentine’s day Specials” banner, set his shopping basket on the floor and watched the young man battling to select an appropriate gift from the heaps of hearts, teddy bears, and chocolates. Like a busy humming bird he flitted from shelf to shelf struggling to choose.

Sheikh Hamaad approached him as he stood scratching his head, “Asalaamu Alaikum, young man, seems like you’re battling to make a choice.”

“Yes, Moulana, this is more difficult than I thought. And lucky I only have to choose for two of them,” he said, picking up another heart decorated teddy bear, examining the price and putting down with disappointment.

“For your sisters?” the Sheikh asked, feigning innocence.

“Naah, just friends, you know how it is. You have to do these things,” came the reply.

Sheikh Hamaad remained silent and fixed his gentle gaze on the young man, something more than the loud T-shirt and hipster jeans told him that this young man had more than a spark of intelligence.

“Tell me, how many Valentine’s gifts do your sisters receive?”

“Hey, hey…. Moulana my sisters are not like that. They don’t do this boyfriend thing. My sisters… they are pure,” exclaimed the young man an angry frown crossing his face. “Just let the guy try and send my sisters one flower and I’ll make him eat it. You don’t know me!”

“Oh,” said Sheikh Hamaad without any apology, “and your mother, how many Valentine’s gifts does she get?”

The young man took a step back and glared at Sheikh Hamaad, “La howla wa….” his words swallowed by his anger, “how can you even say such things about my mother? My mother, she doesn’t do this stuff. She is like an angel. She is pure. How can you say this?”

The sheikh paused, waiting for the silence to absorb the boy’s anger, then said, tauntingly, “So they don’t receive any Valentine’s gifts or have boyfriend’s at all.”

“I told you, Moulana, my family is pure and they don’t do this junk stuff.”

Knowing the moment was right the Sheikh put forward his reasoning, “So you really don’t like your sisters receiving these gifts or having boyfriends.”

“No ways,” came the emphatic reply, “not on my life.”

“Then don’t you think,” Sheikh ventured, “that other people would also not like their sisters, mothers or aunts to receive such gifts. Just as you would like your sisters to remain pure, they would also like their sisters to be pure?”

The young man dropped his head and shifted his feet nervously, “You have a point, Moulana. Didn’t ever think of it like that. I don’t want to say…but you are right. I shouldn’t be polluting other people’s family if I don’t like my family to be polluted. This is all quite wrong isn’t it?”

“Yes, it’s quite wrong,” without a hint of reprimand in his voice, “this is not our way.”

“But,” he asked, trying to conceal his embarrassment, “It’s not like we doing anything serious. I mean it’s only a gift. Not like we doing something physical…so it should be ok, no?”

Without disturbing his calmness, Sheikh Hamaad replied, “Do you like to go fishing?”

“Now you talking my language. Not a Sunday, not one, that we not by the dam,” he replied his hands waving with excitement, “We sit the whole day me and my buddies. First we prime the place with milie bombs. Just so the fish know we there. And they come, Moulana. They come for the bait. The whole lot, man….carpe, bass, barbell, you name it. But what’s that go to do with buying gifts.”

“When Shaytaan wants to trap someone,” Sheikh replied serenely, “he first puts some bait. Innocent stuff like gifts, the odd sms, just a hello and then when the time is right ….he will strike and how you say…you fall hook, line and sinker. Then he’s got you and it’s not long before he reels you in. So it starts with just a little bait. Just like the little gift that seems so innocent – it’s the bait.”

The young man beamed with this new found revelation and couldn’t wait to ask, “You are so right! And you have an amazing way of getting a point across Moulana, you didn’t just lecture me but you showed me how it is wrong. Thanks a mil. You must have learnt from a great teacher?”

“No doubt, I learnt from the best of all teachers,” Sheikh answered, “In fact, the best of all mankind…The Noblest Messenger of Allah- Rasulallah sallahu alaihi wa salam”


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 08, 2013, 02:51:23 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 08, 2013, 04:00:45 PM
Reality of the Dunya (Wordly life) - Spoken Word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W9jMBBKR6I


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 08, 2013, 07:04:22 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 09, 2013, 08:48:45 PM
The Quran and Hadith on Mothers

1. "We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents; in pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth" (46:15).

2. "Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honor. And out of kindness, lower to them the wing of humility, and say: ‘My Lord! bestow on them Thy Mercy even as they cherished me in childhood' "(17:23-24)

3. "We have enjoined on man and woman kindness to parents; but if they (either of them) strive (to force) thee to join with Me anything of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not'" (29:8).

4. "We have enjoined on man and woman (to be good) to his/her parents; show gratitude to Me and to thy parents; to Me is (thy final) Goal. If they (parents) strive to make thee join in worship with Me things of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not; yet bear them company in this life with justice (and consideration) and follow the way of those who turn to Me (in love)" (31:14-15).


The Hadith

1. The Prophet Muhammad said, may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him: Your Heaven lies under the feet of your mother (Ahmad, Nasai).

2. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Messenger of God! Who among the people is the most worthy of my good companionship? The Prophet said: Your mother. The man said, ‘Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man further asked, ‘Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man asked again, ‘Then who?' The Prophet said: Then your father. (Bukhari, Muslim).

3. Abu Usaid Saidi said: We were once sitting with Rasulullah when a man from the tribe of Salmah came and said to him: O Messenger of Allah! do my parents have rights over me even after they have died? And Rasulullah said: Yes. You must pray to Allah to bless them with His Forgiveness and Mercy, fulfill the promises they made to anyone, and respect their relations and their friends (Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah).

4. Abdullah ibn Amr related that the Messenger of Allah said: The major sins are to believe that Allah has partners, to disobey one's parents, to commit murder, and to bear false witness (Bukhari, Muslim).

5. It is narrated by Asma bint Abu Bakr that during the treaty of Hudaibiyah, her mother, who was then pagan, came to see her from Makkah. Asma informed the Messenger of Allah of her arrival and also that she needed help. He said: Be good to your mother (Bukhari, Muslim).

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 10, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
Your Godless filth has been reported. Fear God as you claim to be a 'good christian' whoever's troll gimmick you are. You are disgusting.
















http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTKxn_1ng4A


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 10, 2013, 08:28:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqUY-HFA6bc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 11, 2013, 10:29:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAqcDyHkRSM


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 11, 2013, 10:31:28 AM
Very good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc_thyTdNyk


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 11, 2013, 05:43:16 PM
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the unbeliever.”

[Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7058]


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 12, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 12, 2013, 05:32:58 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 13, 2013, 01:08:06 PM
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Haya means shyness


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 13, 2013, 01:26:19 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 13, 2013, 05:58:25 PM
Very interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMuXM-A3OFk


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 14, 2013, 10:20:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8a41oLhPEc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 14, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
Ibn `Abbas (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) used to say when he was in distress:

“La ilaha illallahul-Azimul-Halim. La ilaha illallahu Rabbul-`Arshil-`Azim. La ilaha illallahu Rabbus-samawati, wa Rabbul-ardi, wa Rabbul-`Arshil-Karim. (None has the right to be worshipped but Allah the Incomparably Great, the Compassionate. None has the right to be worshipped but Allah the Rubb of the Mighty Throne. None has the right to be worshipped but Allah the Rubb of the heavens, the Rubb of the earth, and the Rubb of the Honourable Throne).’ [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

The only medicine in a time of distress is the remembrance of Allah Whose Help alone should be sought. This Du`a contains words which glorify Allah and exalt Him far above all else. It is desirable to recite these words when one is in distress as this is exactly what the Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) used to recite in such situations.

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 15, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW6LVAz53I


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 16, 2013, 10:50:18 AM
subhanAllah...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmjLVbQTn8c


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 17, 2013, 12:30:01 AM
I'm glad you're posting these videos.  They've awakened me to the fact that Islam has absolutely no place in western culture and should be cut out like a cancer.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 17, 2013, 09:37:35 AM
"I fear the day when the disbelievers are proud of their falsehood, and the Muslims are shy of their faith."

Umar ibn al-Khattab (R.A)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on February 17, 2013, 11:59:40 AM
“There is only one Islam and it is a dangerous ideology. It is intolerant, it is violent. It should not be tolerated, but should be contained. In Europe, we are experiencing that if Islam becomes stronger in a society – even when the majority of Muslims are moderates – a society becomes less free and more intolerant of non- Muslims."

" The Koran is a fascist book which incites violence. That is why this book, just like [Adolf Hitler's] Mein Kampf, must be banned.  The book incites hatred and killing and therefore has no place in our [Dutch] legal order."

"I am on trial, but on trial with me is the freedom of expression of many Dutch citizens. I have spoken... nothing but the truth."


- Geert Wilders


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 17, 2013, 02:33:40 PM
Clearly not halal, being that he's an ugly pig.

It's funny how the same crap is recycled by these dumb islamophobes. Yet who is the one starting wars, who is the one that's really violent, who is the one that's degrading women every day by making them nothing but a bunch of one night stand, train station sexual objects, grading women based on their physical lust and not their intellect or faith, who is the one that's actually OPPRESSING? It's the west, but it just works that throwing the blame on those you want to attack is much easier to justify yourself when you attack as the west has been doing especially in the last decade.

It's amusing that he talks about mein kampf and yet he makes material that is anti muslims and anti islam. His garbage 'movies' if one can even call it that. Ironically if anyone would say anything about Jews in holland they'd be instantly jailed and doomed to the end of their life. Well hello hypocritical west.

The qur'an does not incite indiscriminate killing that losers like himself try to spread. He's insignificant, he made his money, he's trash and you know the irony? In Holland white Dutch people are embracing islam in large numbers. Woopie doo, sucks for them doesn't it?

(http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/geert-wilders-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on February 17, 2013, 11:59:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzPTkFTx98E


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 18, 2013, 10:09:54 AM
O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالْأَنصَابُ وَالْأَزْلَامُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ

Quran Surat Al-Ma'idah, Chapter 5, Verse 90

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 18, 2013, 10:30:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdGFLGOOFbQ


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 18, 2013, 09:06:02 PM
e-kul's cousin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGolpmOTiLc


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 18, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 19, 2013, 10:49:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNgfuOs8UhY


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 20, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 20, 2013, 02:14:58 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 21, 2013, 01:24:26 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 21, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 23, 2013, 05:46:13 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 25, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
The destruction of Pharaoh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O95rQi9VDwI


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on February 25, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Clearly not halal, being that he's an ugly pig.

It's funny how the same crap is recycled by these dumb islamophobes. Yet who is the one starting wars, who is the one that's really violent, who is the one that's degrading women every day by making them nothing but a bunch of one night stand, train station sexual objects, grading women based on their physical lust and not their intellect or faith, who is the one that's actually OPPRESSING? It's the west, but it just works that throwing the blame on those you want to attack is much easier to justify yourself when you attack as the west has been doing especially in the last decade.

It's amusing that he talks about mein kampf and yet he makes material that is anti muslims and anti islam. His garbage 'movies' if one can even call it that. Ironically if anyone would say anything about Jews in holland they'd be instantly jailed and doomed to the end of their life. Well hello hypocritical west.

The qur'an does not incite indiscriminate killing that losers like himself try to spread. He's insignificant, he made his money, he's trash and you know the irony? In Holland white Dutch people are embracing islam in large numbers. Woopie doo, sucks for them doesn't it?

(http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/geert-wilders-1.jpg)

I wonder if i can go to israel with 20 body guards and say that jews should leave israel and the torah should be banned.Me and the 20 body guards would have left israel in coffins.



Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 26, 2013, 09:16:15 AM
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Quote
Abû Hurayrah relates that Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak a good word or remain silent. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his neighbor. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his guest.” [ Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim ]


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 26, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 26, 2013, 01:43:28 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 26, 2013, 03:23:45 PM
This lady could be supremely happier than those who are filthy rich.. How many unhappy rich people do we hear about? The gold diggers after their money, chasing them to the point they have no life? To reach true happiness, we need to know what is the purpose of our life, how to reach success in the hereafter, and to fulfil the requirements of reaching this success by following the commands of Allah and his true religion. ...The Prophet (peace be upon him), as always states it best… he (peace be upon him) said: “May he be miserable, the worshipper of the Dinar and dirham, and the worshipper of the striped silk cloak. If he is given anything, he is satisfied; but if not, he is unsatisfied”.[Al-Bukhari]

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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 27, 2013, 09:53:15 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 27, 2013, 01:23:53 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 28, 2013, 09:13:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIccHrTq3L0


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 28, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 28, 2013, 10:04:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNDns0p47E


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on February 28, 2013, 02:20:01 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on February 28, 2013, 05:11:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJ6FpabknY

I didnt see geert wilders getting support when he came to australia.

How many people came to his talks, maximum 1000 people out of 20 million citizens of australia?

So not  to sound islamically bias, but even the aussie biddhists, jews, and christians organisations didnt support wilders in australia.



Australia visit prompts condemnation of Wilders
 
Far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders could learn a lot about the strengths of multiculturalism during his Australian visit, community and religious leaders say.
 
Mr Wilders will give speeches in Melbourne, Sydney and Perth this month about what he calls the “Islamisation of Australia”.
 
A coalition of 24 groups – including the AFL and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne – issued a joint statement in Melbourne on Monday, reinforcing their support for Victoria’s “multicultural and multifaith community”.
 
“We have a collective responsibility to respect our fellow citizens and preserve the social cohesion and harmony that characterise Victoria and makes our society great,” the statement says. “We welcome challenging ideas and debate, however, inciting hatred and animosity towards specific cultural or faith-based communities has no place in Victoria.”
 
State Multicultural Affairs Minister Nicholas Kotsiras says Mr Wilders could learn a lot from his visit to the state. “I find it amazing that someone could travel 16,000 kilometres to tell us why he and his party have failed in his own country,” he told reporters in Melbourne. “If he wants to come to learn and to educate himself about the success of multiculturalism and diversity, Victoria is the place to be.”


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 01:03:21 AM
Belgian Islamophobia: MPs vow to ‘impeach’ Muslim extremists

Belgian politicians have submitted a proposal to impeach or limit the influence of Muslim extremists in power. MPs fear that Muslim politicians do not shake hands with women and are creating an isolated community.

Alain Destexche, a liberal member of the Federation Wallonia-Brussels, and Deputy Mayor of Koekelberg Philippe Pivin submitted the proposal in front of the Belgian Parliament on Wednesday to exclude extremist parties from a range of local functions. The proposal is currently open for signatures by other members of Parliament.

“The people of the Islamic party do not want to be mixed with others in public transport and other communal places,” local media quoted Alain Destexhe as saying. “They advocate getting married and wearing a veil at 12 years old, based on Islamic law.”

http://rt.com/news/proposal-belgium-limit-muslims-612/ (http://rt.com/news/proposal-belgium-limit-muslims-612/)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on March 01, 2013, 02:42:09 AM
Belgian Islamophobia: MPs vow to ‘impeach’ Muslim extremists

Belgian politicians have submitted a proposal to impeach or limit the influence of Muslim extremists in power. MPs fear that Muslim politicians do not shake hands with women and are creating an isolated community.

Alain Destexche, a liberal member of the Federation Wallonia-Brussels, and Deputy Mayor of Koekelberg Philippe Pivin submitted the proposal in front of the Belgian Parliament on Wednesday to exclude extremist parties from a range of local functions. The proposal is currently open for signatures by other members of Parliament.

“The people of the Islamic party do not want to be mixed with others in public transport and other communal places,” local media quoted Alain Destexhe as saying. “They advocate getting married and wearing a veil at 12 years old, based on Islamic law.”

http://rt.com/news/proposal-belgium-limit-muslims-612/ (http://rt.com/news/proposal-belgium-limit-muslims-612/)


Wilders message is losing appeal at home, Q society manipulated strength of wilders

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/fact-checking-the-geert-wilders-road-show/562/



Abbott rubbishes Wilders's views on Islam
 
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders is "substantially" wrong in his views on Islam, arguing there is not much Australia can learn from the Netherlands on the issue of multicultural integration.
 
Mr Wilders is in Australia as part of a speaking tour organised by the Q Society, which warns against the "Islamisation" of the country.
 
There were violent scuffles outside a Melbourne venue last night as protesters tried to prevent people from entering the building to hear the anti-Islamic MP speak.
 
Mr Abbott says Mr Wilders is free to "say his piece", but says Australia's experience of multiculturalism is different from the Netherlands.
 
"Obviously he's entitled to his viewpoint, but I think that the Muslims in this country see themselves rightly as fair dinkum, dinky-di Australians, just as the Catholics and the Jews and the Protestants and the atheists," Mr Abbott told Fairfax radio.
 
"We see ourselves as Australians.
 
"We don't like to divide ourselves on the basis of race, of faith, of colour, of class, of gender.
 
"That's one of the great strengths of our country.
 
"We are always conscious of what we have in common, rather than the things that divide us."
 
Mr Abbott was yesterday forced to defended the Coalition against accusations it was being "radicalised" by extreme right-wing political influences from the United States Tea Party movement.
 
Treasurer Wayne Swan used a speech to the Australian Workers' Union national conference yesterday to argue that the Coalition had "imported all the very worst aggressive negativity and reckless disregard for responsible economics from the Tea Party".
 
Mr Abbott responded by saying that the Coalition would always practice politics with an "Australian accent".
 
"We don't import our politics from overseas, we don't import our personnel from overseas," he added, in a thinly veiled reference to Prime Minister Julia Gillard's director of communications John McTernan, who is Scottish.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 02:52:07 AM
Cowardly critics of Geert Wilders shame our country

From: Herald Sun, February 25, 2013

IF Geert Wilders is wrong, let his critics explain next month's "Islamic Peace Conference" at the Melbourne Showgrounds.

I've checked what huge billboards around Melbourne claim is the "largest ever Islamic Conference in the history of Australia", at which 20,000 people are expected.

I've checked what the "chief guest" - Sheikh Abdur-Rahman Al-Sudais, imam of Mecca's Grand Mosque - has said of Jews: "The scum of the human race, the rats of the world, . . . the offspring of apes and pigs" whom God should "terminate".

I've checked what other invited speakers have said about killing gays, beating women to make them "shape up", executing apostates and supporting terrorists.

Wilders is the eloquent leader of Holland's third-largest political party and last week tried to conduct a speaking tour of Australia to argue Islam is incompatible with Western values and freedoms.

Wilders might know. For nine years, he has had to live under constant police guard after criticising Islam.

Islamists have been jailed after plotting his death. Another Islamist used a knife to pin a note to the body of slaughtered film director Theo van Gogh, warning Wilders would be next.

Yes, most Muslims are moderate, Wilders agrees, but their "violent Islamic ideology" is not and commands followers not to be, either.
If so, mass immigration to the West of followers of such an ideology is a danger.

There may be good arguments against this, but attempts here to simply drown Wilders out with abuse, misrepresentation and threats shame this country.

His Melbourne speech was blockaded by violent protesters. His Perth speech was called off when the venue became one of 30 to cancel for fear of reprisals.

Even the Executive Council of Australian Jewry claimed it was Wilders, himself, who incited hatreds: "Inciting hatred and animosity towards specific cultural or faith-based communities has no place in Australia."

The Islamic Council of Victoria, along with the Victorian Council of Churches, agreed : "We are concerned that the visit of Mr Wilders will be used to introduce overseas hatreds."

Yet this same Islamic Council actively promotes next month's "Islamic Peace Conference", some of whose invited speakers preach an Islam that sounds just like the imported hatred Wilders describes.

The conference is fronted by Wazeem Razvi, founder of the Melbourne-based Islamic Research and Education Academy and supporter of Sharia law here.

"We are not non-violent," he preached last year.

"We are violent but when there is a need for it . . . We have in Islam, jihad, yes, but we will never do terrorism. Yes, jihad is very Islamic."
But in a recorded speech in December, Razvi said one of the speakers he had invited for the conference was Indian sheikh Zakir Naik, "my boss's boss", who has a very different line on terrorism.

A YouTube clip shows Naik declaring: "If (late terrorist chief Osama bin Laden) is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him." He adds: "Every Muslim should be a terrorist."

Razvi talks big, and none of the overseas speakers he claimed in December he had asked is yet listed in the conference schedule.
But his wish list suggests the Islam he wants to push.

Another invited speaker is Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem, who says "homosexuality is an abnormality" to be punished by death.
He says polygamy is allowed, genital mutilation of girls "recommended", and wives refusing their husbands sex "a sin".
Leaving Islam "is apostasy and it is punishable by death in an Islamic society".

Another speaker, Abu Hamza, head of the Islamic Information Services Network of Australasia, also says women "must respond" if their husbands want sex and could be beaten "to shape them up".

"Don't hit your wife," Hamza says on YouTube, before instructing men to do so in an Islamic way as a "last resort" without causing bruising or bleeding: "The beating the prophet Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush."

Malaysia's Sheikh Hussain Yee, another invitee, claims Jews celebrated the September 11 attacks and are the true "extremists".
Then there's Sheikh Mohammed Omran, head of Australia's fundamentalist Ahl as Sunnah wal Jamah, who once said: "I dispute any evil action linked to bin Laden." Later he conceded: "He is a good man in some ways, and not in other ways."

I don't say all Muslim groups backing this conference know of or support these statements. Razvi claimed he was surprised to hear of Sudais' attacks on Jews.

Yet the question remains: why is Wilders vilified for warning against exactly the Islam preached by invitees to the "largest ever Islamic Conference in the history of Australia"?

And the evidence is damning: Wilders' critics owe him an apology for having been so blind. So cowardly.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/cowardly-critics-of-geert-wilders-shame-our-country/story-e6frfhqf-1226584547791 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/cowardly-critics-of-geert-wilders-shame-our-country/story-e6frfhqf-1226584547791)


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 03:08:09 AM
Geert Wilders’ Melbourne speech

Dear friends,

Finally, I am here.

I am very happy to be in your beautiful and magnificent country, Australia.

400 years ago, the Dutch were the first Europeans to discover Australia. They named this land after their own and called it New Holland. So, here I am today, a visitor from the Netherlands, with a message from the old Holland to the New Holland.

I am here to tell you how Islam is changing the Netherlands and Western Europe beyond recognition. We are in the process of losing our culture, our identity, our freedom.
I am also here to warn Australia about the true nature of Islam. It is not just a religion as many people mistakenly think; it is primarily a dangerous totalitarian ideology.
I am here to warn you that what is happening in my native country might soon happen in Australia too, if you fail to be vigilant.

And I am here to advice you on how to turn the tide of Islamization. Inform people. Confront them with the truth. Don’t be afraid to speak. Use your right of free speech.
Because if you do not use it, you will lose it. And find and elect politicians who are not afraid to speak the truth about Islam.

Before I start, allow me to thank the Q Society for inviting me to your country. Thank you Debbie, Andrew, Ralf, and all the other volunteers for making this visit possible. Debbie never booked so many conference rooms in her life as in the past few weeks, and never had so many cancellations. Debbie, you are my hero. You have had a very hard time. But I bet you think twice about ever inviting me to Australia again.

The Q Society and its volunteers embody the courage for which Australians are known in Europe.
We, Europeans, owe our freedom in part to the thousands of young and brave Australians who fought, and died, at Passiondale and at Gallipoli.

These Australians – your fathers and grandfathers – persevered against all odds.
And so did the Q Society, despite the efforts of the governing establishment to discourage my visit.

First, Chris Bowen, the then federal minister of Immigration, had me wait five long weeks for a visa, forcing us to postpone my visit from October to February.
Then, the minister implicitly warned people to stay away from my speeches by writing a newspaper article in the Australian saying that I was a fringe figure from the far-right.

Western Australia’s premier Colin Bartnett went as far as to tell the media that I am “not welcome” in his state. I wonder how many public figures in the world have already been told that they are not welcome in Western Australia. Trying to find this out, I googled the words “not welcome in Western Australia.” Guess what? Only two items popped up: “Geert Wilders” and “US nuclear base.”

Private enterprises followed the example by boycotting my visit, declining the booking of venues, turning down adds, and refusing banking services.
But the Q Society did not give up.

Thank you also to La Mirage here in Melbourne, where we are gathered today, for making this evening possible.

So, here I am, with a message that your political leaders do not want you to hear.

But first, let me tell you who I am and how I live.

I am an elected politician from one of the oldest democracies in the world. I am the leader of the Party for Freedom, the largest Dutch opposition party. We have almost 1 million voters in a country that is known for its tolerance. I am not a fringe figure; I am not far-right either. Political opponents brought me to court, accusing me of hate speech and discrimination. But the court in Amsterdam after an ordeal that lasted 2 years cleared me of all charges.

Earlier, I have spoken in the premises of the United States Congress, the British House of Lords, the Danish Parliament and other government premises. I participated in conferences in the U.S. and Canada, Germany, Italy, and elsewhere, with people none of which belong to the far-right.

For the past 9 years I have been living under round the clock police protection. Wherever I go, plainclothes policemen go with me. I live in a government safe house, bulletproof and safer than the National Bank. I wish I had their money. Earlier my wife and I have even lived in army barracks and prison cells just to be safe from assassins.

Why do I need this protection? I am not a president or king, I am a simple parliamentarian.

I have been marked for death. I was placed under police protection in November 2004 when the Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was slaughtered in broad daylight because he had criticized Islam. A few hours later, the police found a letter written by van Gogh’s assassin threatening to kill me and my colleague Ayaan Hirsi Ali as well. We, too, had been critical of Islam, especially through our work in parliament.

Ayaan has since left for America, but I continue to candidly express my views about Islam in the Dutch Parliament and in the public debate around the world.
But it is not I who am important here. What is at stake is the defense of our freedom.

Only two weeks ago, a good friend of mine, Lars Hedegaard, a journalist from Denmark, survived an assassination attempt. A foreigner tried to shoot him through the head. Why? For the simple reason that Lars is critical of Islam.

Europe has become a dangerous place for those who criticize Islam. So many people rooted in a culture entirely different from our own Judeo-Christian and humanist tradition have entered Europe that now Europe’s identity and its culture are in danger.

Australian tourists visiting our major European cities today can still see the postcard views of the Eiffel tower, Buckingham Palace and the Amsterdam canals, but if they are not careful and walk too far, they risk entering a dangerous Islamic ghetto.

Islam has creating a parallel society within our cities. Shortly before her death in 2006, the
well-known Italian author Oriana Fallaci wrote: “In each one of our cities, there is a second city, a state within the state, a government within the government. A Muslim city, a city ruled by the Koran.” – end of quote.

The Islamic presence is changing the outlook and the character of Europe. In some urban neighbourhoods, Islamic regulations are already being enforced. Women’s rights are being trampled. We are confronted with headscarves and burqa’s, polygamy, female genital mutilation, honor-killings.

Five years ago, Michael Nazir-Ali, the Anglican bishop of Rochester, England, who is himself of Muslim descent, already warned for Islamic no-go zones. “Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them and even the risk of violence,” he said.

Last month, a group called Muslim Patrol posted a video on Youtube showing how they control an entire neighborhood of the British capital London. They intimidate people, force women to cover up, harass gays, confiscate alcohol, and forbid non-Muslims to walk past the local mosque.

Two years ago, a high ranking German police officer admitted that no-go zones outside police authority are proliferating all over Germany. We can witness this phenomenon all over Europe.

I used to live in Kanaleneiland, a suburb of Utrecht which, during the 20 years that I lived there, transformed into a very dangerous neighborhood for non-Muslims. I have been robbed. On several occasions I had to run for safety.

The same transformation has happened in parts of Amsterdam, Rotterdam and other cities, in the Netherlands, as well as in cities in Belgium, Germany, Britain, France, Spain, Italy, Sweden and other countries.

In August 2011, a Dutch newspaper sent its war correspondent – yes, you heard right, its war correspondent – to the Dutch city of Helmond to investigate reports that Islamic thugs were harassing local residents. His article detailed terrible abuses suffered by the non-Muslim population, including the sexual harassment of young girls. The locals complained that the police are afraid of the thugs.

In France, the authorities have drawn up a list of 751 so-called “sensible urban areas.” These are the lost territories of the French Republic, even though a staggering 5 million people, or 8 percent of the total French population, live in them.

In Brussels, the capital of the European Union, 25 percent of the population is Muslim. The city has several predominantly Islamic districts. Police officers entering these neighborhoods have been shot at with Kalashnikovs. Three years ago, the police union acknowledged that there are boroughs in Brussels which – I quote – “officers do not dare enter in uniforms.” End of quote.

In my own country, Moroccans are the largest ethnic group among Islamic immigrants. Almost every week there are incidents with Moroccan youths. In the Netherlands, 65 percent of all the Moroccan boys between 12 and 23 years have have already been arrested at least once by the police.

The list of violent incidents involving Moroccans, whether occurring in our streets, our schools, our shopping malls or on our sports fields, is endless. But the victims are almost never Moroccans or Muslims.

I am not exaggerating. I tell it like it is.

Two years ago, Germany’s Family Minister Kristina Schröder advocated – I quote – “an open debate about racist Muslims.” End of quote.

Last September, Jean-Francois Copé, the former French Budget Minister under president Sarkozy, also pointed out that – I quote “racism is growing in our cities.”
Copé, too, was referring to the surge of Islamic violence against ethnic Frenchmen.

Islam has brought us jihad: intimidation, violence.

Then there is the phenomenon of nonviolent jihad. The rise of Islam also means the rise of Islamic sharia law in our judicial systems. In Europe, we have sharia wills, sharia schools, sharia banks. The introduction of elements of sharia law in our societies creates a system of legal apartheid. Sharia law systematically discriminates between groups of people.

Britain now has official sharia courts. One of these courts settled the inheritance of a man whose estate had to be divided between his children. It gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with the Koranic pronouncement that a woman is only worth half a man. This is a disgrace. In our civilization, men and women used to be treated as equals before the law. In contemporary Europe, this is no longer the case.

Sharia law also affects our fundamental freedoms, such as freedom of speech. Sharia law forbids criticism of Islam. This is considered blasphemy. The penalty is death.
That is why I have been marked for death. That is why people like me and Lars Hedegaard are in so much trouble; that is why three years ago a man with an axe tried to chop the cartoonist Kurt Westergaard to pieces; that is why we, and Salman Rushdie and others are living in hiding. Because if you criticize Islam, you pay a very high price.

This brings me to the second major topic of my speech. The nature of Islam.

Is it not strange that we, who are not Muslims, are punished by Islam for breaking Islamic rules? Religious rules do not apply to people who do not belong to a specific religion, do they? Indeed, a religion – every religion – should be voluntary. Yet, Islam imposes its rules on everyone.

Why does sharia law alter our Western secular legal system in such a dramatic fashion? The answer is that rather than a religion, Islam is a totalitarian political ideology which aims to impose its legal system on the whole society.
Islam is an ideology because it is political rather than religious: Islam is an ideology because it aims for an Islamic state and wants to impose Islamic Sharia law on all of us.
Islam is totalitarian because it is not voluntary. It orders that people who leave Islam must be killed.

Contrary to all the other religions – real religions – Islam also lays obligations on non-members.

Your fellow Australian, the theologian Mark Durie has said – I quote: “Islam classically demands a political realization, and specifically one in which Islam rules over all other religions, ideologies and competing political visions. Islam is not unique in having a political vision or speaking to politics, but it is unique in demanding that it alone must rule the political sphere.” – end of quote.

We can see what Islam has in store for us if we watch the fate of the Christians in the Islamic world, such as the Copts in Egypt, the Maronites in Lebanon, the Assyrians in Iraq, and Christians anywhere in the Islamic and Arab world. The cause of their suffering is Islam. Indeed, the only place in the Middle East where Christians are safe to be Christians is Israel. Israel is also the only democracy in the Middle East, a beacon of light in an area of total darkness. We should all support Israel.

My friends, I always make a distinction between Muslims and Islam. Most Muslims are moderate, but the ideology of Islam is dangerous. The moderates are the captives of a totalitarian system. If only they could liberate themselves from the Islamic culture of fatalism and apathy, then the most beautiful things could happen to them and the whole world.

I have travelled the Islamic world extensively. I have visited countries such as Turkey, Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia. I was overwhelmed by the kindness, friendliness and helpfulness of many people there. They are often good people, but they are the captives of Islam. These people are not free; they live under the yoke of Islamic sharia law. If they leave Islam, they sign their own death verdict.

Thirty years ago, I travelled from Israel to Egypt. This trip made a huge impression on me. Israel and Egypt are neighbours, with the same climate, the same natural riches, similar resources, the same potential. And yet Egypt is poor, while Israel is wealthy.

Freedom is the key to prosperity; and Islam deprives people of it.

However, as long as Islam remains dominant, there can be no real freedom.
Just look at what is happening in the Arab countries. The so-called Arab Spring quickly degraded into a freezing Arab Winter. The situation of women and non-Muslims, such as Christians, worsened dramatically.

In Islamic countries, democracy does not lead to freedom. Islam keeps people entrapped in a mental prison. A survey by the American Pew Center found that even though 59 percent of Egyptians prefer democracy to any other form of government, 84 percent want the death penalty for apostates.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
Continued.....

Despite the presence of many moderate Muslims, the growing Islamic presence in Europe is causing huge problems. Europe’s Islamic lobby is increasingly assertive.

It has successfully pressured European politicians into implementing pro-Islamic policies, institutionalizing sharia practices, adopting anti-Israeli positions, and restricting freedom of speech under the pretext that telling the truth about Islam is a hate speech crime.

In the Netherlands, we have prison cells with arrows on the floor directing towards Mecca; prisons where only halal food is served; Islamic lawyers who do not have to rise when the judge enters the courtroom; schools that close on Islamic holidays; works of art that are removed from public buildings because they might offend Islam; separate swimming hours, separate theatre performances, separate courses for men and women; nurses in homes for the elderly who are exempt for treating men because Islam forbids women to touch men; etcetera.

Islamic and pro-Islamic groups drag people to court simply because they exercise their legal right of freedom of speech. This is called legal jihad. People like myself, Lars Hedegaard in Denmark, and countless others from Canada to Austria have been subjected to endless time, energy and money consuming trials for speaking the truth.

To understand the nature of Islam, one also has to understand its founder, Muhammad, the author of the Koran. It is uncomfortable for people to speak about it, but we must because he is the example of 1.5 billion people. According to Islam, Muhammad is the perfect man whose life must be imitated. The consequences are horrendous and can be witnessed on a daily basis.

Islam presents Muhammad as the role model to 1.5 billion people. Fortunately, the majority of them do not follow this example. The fact that Islam presents him as the model man obliges us, however, to talk about his character and the things he did.

Islamic texts such as the Sira, Muhammad’s biography, and the Hadiths, the descriptions of Muhammad’s life from testimonies of his contemporaries, show that he was the savage leader of a gang of robbers from Medina. Without scruples they looted, raped and murdered.

The sources describe orgies of savagery where hundreds of people’s throats were cut, hands and feet chopped off, eyes cut out, entire tribes massacred. An example is the extinction of the Jews in Medina in 627. Muhammad himself participated in chopping off their heads. The women and children were sold as slaves. As you know, Muhammad married the 6 year old girl Aisha whom consummated when she was 9 years old. In our countries today, such a pedophile would be sent to jail for a very long time.

Islamic violence does not spring from social and political grievances, as politically-correct sources claim. Islamic violence springs directly from Islam and Muhammad’s example.

Because Muhammad lied and cheated in order to advance Islam, some followers feel entitled to do the same. Islam even has a word for this kind of lying. It is called taqqiya.
Because Muhammad spread Islam through acts of terror, some of his followers do the same.

Because Muhammad established an Islamic state, some of his followers see it as their duty to do the same.

Because Muhammad had his critics and the critics of his Islamic state murdered, some of his followers regard it as their duty to kill everyone who speaks his mind about Muhammad and Islam.

It is no coincidence that all the Islamic states in the world demand that freedom of speech be curtailed and that criticism of Islam and its prophet be forbidden. And yet, it is our duty to speak out and tell the truth.

Anyone who voices criticism of Islam and Muhammad is in grave personal danger. And whoever attempts to escape from the influence of Islam and Muhammad risk the death penalty. We cannot continue to accept this state of affairs. A public debate about the true nature and character of Muhammad is badly needed how uncomfortable it might be to some people.

Understanding Islam and Muhammad, also learns us important lessons about our present situation. That is the third major topic I want to address: the lessons for Australia.

It is important that you realize that in our present days Islam is spreading predominantly through the method of immigration from Islamic countries. Muhammad himself conquered Medina through the method of immigration. Or Hijra as it is called in Islam.
Hijra is an instrument of jihad. It is an instrument that Islam uses to dominate the free world.

So, in order to stop Islamization, we should stop as we try to do in the Netherland where my party sees it as its first priority to stop immigration from Islamic countries. Enough is enough.

I realize that this may be a difficult message in a country such as Australia. Your country was built on immigration. Over one in four of Australia’s 22 million inhabitants were born overseas.

They came to Australia from many countries and continents. They were welcomed because they contributed. They have strengthened Australia.

Dutch immigrants, like countless immigrants from other countries, have helped to turn Australia into what it is today. Australia is home to over 300,000 people of Dutch descent.
These Dutchmen never caused any problems because they did not bring along an ideology which prohibits friendship with non-Dutchmen, which commands them to hate non-Dutchmen, and to submit or kill non-Dutchmen.

My countrymen did not come to impose their own culture upon the non-Dutch Australians; they assimilated into Australian society and, in doing so, they enriched it.

Today, Europe, too, is confronted with millions of immigrants. Unfortunately, many of these immigrants are not strengthening nor enriching our societies, because many of them refuse to assimilate and they create a parallel society within our nations. A very large number of these immigrants have moved to Europe from Islamic countries. Europe is in the middle of an Islamization process, driven by immigration from North Africa, Turkey, the Middle East and other parts of the Islamic world, such as Somalia.

The Islamic countries belong to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. It is the largest voting bloc and the biggest Israel haters in the United Nations. In 1990, it adopted the Cairo Declaration on human rights in Islam, in which human rights is bound by Sharia law. It also calls for the death penalty for people who leave Islam or insult Islam, Muhammad or the Koran.

There is a second priority which we have in our party platform. This is to counter Sharia or Islamic law in our own country.

Let me explain. When people move to another country, they integrate, they blend in, they assimilate. That is the natural order of things.
When immigrants from Islamic countries settle in Western countries, they move from an unfree society to a free society. People always prefer freedom over tyranny. That is human nature.

In the normal order of things, immigration from Islamic countries would weaken Islam.
Their contact with Western freedoms, would lead Islamic people to abandon Islam. However, through the creation of a Sharia-based parallel society – we see it happen all over Europe, be careful that it does not happen in Australia – Islam manages to continue its control over its captives.

Islamic societies – including Islamic enclaves in the West—exert tight social control that is indicative of the totalitarian character of Islam.

My friends, I am here to warn Australia. Learn from the European lesson. The more Islam you get into your society, the less civilized it becomes and the less free.

How did the Europeans get into their present situation? It is partly our own fault because we have foolishly adopted the ideology of cultural relativism. Cultural relativism is far worse than multiculturalism. Cultural relativism is the biggest political disease that we face in our countries today.

I am proud to say – I do not care whether people like it or not – that our culture which is based on Judeo-Christian and humanist values such as liberty, democracy and tolerance, is far better than the Islamic culture. I am proud of it.

We should not close our eyes to the fact that all over Europe and Australia, new mosques and Islamic centers are under construction. In any major city in Europe you will encounter halal shops and women in headscarves and burkas.

Two years ago, there was the case of Carnita Matthews, the Islamic convert in a burka, who escaped a jail sentence in New South Wales because the authorities could not prove that she was the person in a burka making a false statement to the police.

Open the pages of our newspapers and you will read horrific stories of women being trampled, female genital mutilation and honor killings in our own back yards.

We have to speak out, because it is the only tool we have got. We stand for our convictions, but we never use violence. We abhor violence. The reason why we reject Islam is exactly Islam’s violent nature. We believe in democracy.

We cherish the tradition of Aleksander Solzhenitsyn, Jelena Bonner, Lech Walesa and Ronald Reagan. These heroes defeated a totalitarian ideology by the power of their conviction and by using no other means than their words.

As the ex-Muslim and Islam-critic Ali Sina said: “We don’t raise a sword against darkness; we lit a light.” So it is. We lit the light of the truth. And the truth will set us free. The truth that while Muslims can embrace freedom, Islam cannot.

Let no one tell you that Islam respects freedom. Freedom and Islam are incompatible.

Let no one tell you that Islam is a religion of peace. Islam is an ideology of violence.
Let no one tell you that you should tolerate the intolerant. We should not tolerate the intolerant and start becoming intolerant to those who are intolerant to us.

We should stop the building of new mosques. Enough is enough.

We want no more immigration from Islamic countries for we have enough Islam already.

If you are a criminal immigrant you should be expelled! If immigrants do not commit crimes, they are equal to anyone else. But if they commit crimes, they should be sent packing.

Very often, the appeasers are the governments who are afraid of Islamic radicals threatening violence and riots against anyone who dares to confront their intolerant ideas.
What we are witnessing today is how freedom dies. It dies because the political elite is cowardly unwilling to defend it. We must not accept that.

Indeed, my friends, we must change course.

We must struggle every single day against the rising tide of Islamization, even when our opponents brand us as extremists, even when they take us to court, and treathen to kill us, we should continue speaking the truth.

If we do not oppose Islam, we will lose everything: our freedom, our identity, our democracy, our rule of law, and all our liberties.

We must end the disease of cultural relativism and proudly proclaim: Our Western culture, based on Judeo-Christian and humanist principles, is far better than the Islamic culture. Only when we are convinced of that, will we be willing to defend our own identity.

You must demand that immigrants accept Australia’s values, and not the other way round.

We must support the persecuted Christians in the Islamic world. We must also stand with Israel. Israel is in jihad’s frontline. Because by helping Israel to survive, we help ourselves.

But most important of all – and this is the final message of my speech – most important of all, we must defend freedom of speech. Everything else depends on it.

We cannot correct our mistakes if we are not allowed to talk about them.

There is reason for concern if the erosion of our freedom of speech is the price we must pay to accommodate Islam. There is something badly wrong if those who deny that Islam is a problem do not grant us the right to talk about the issue.

Public discussion should not be stifled by threats; On the contrary, public discussion should be promoted. And everyone should be allowed to freely express his opinions. That is why Europe and Australia are in desperate need of an equivalent of America’s First Amendment which guarantees us a maximum of freedom of speech.

Friends, there is hope if we overcome our fears and begin to speak the truth.

If we remain silent, we are certain to go from defeat to defeat; But if we speak the truth, we will be able to turn the tide and it will be our first victory of many.

Yes, my friends, there is hope. But only if we outgrow our fears and dare speak the truth.
As Ronald Reagan said “The future doesn’t belong to the fainthearted.”
The future freedom of Australia, the liberties of your children – they depend on you.
The ANZAC spirit helped keep Europe free in the past; the ANZAC spirit will keep you free in the future. Be as brave as your fathers, and you will survive.

There is hope because we are not alone. We still speak for the majority. While the elite has largely fallen for cultural relativism, the people have not.

In my country, the Netherlands, 56 percent of the population see Islam as the biggest threat to our national identity.
In Britain, a survey last month showed that the public regard immigration as the biggest issue facing British society.
In Germany, 64 percent hold that Islam is violent and 70 percent that it is fanatical.
In France, 74 percent are convinced that Islam is intolerant and not compatible with French society.

These people are not wrongheaded, they are not extremists; they stand for decency, common sense and liberty. We must speak on their behalf. We must encourage them. We must tell them not to give up and not to lose heart.

My friends, always remember that our voice is the voice of liberty; it is the voice of liberation.
Let us defend our own freedoms. And let us support Muslims – and especially the suppressed Muslim women – who want to free themselves from the yoke of Islam.
Let them join the worldwide community of freedom, renounce Sharia and Islam. And be free, as we are free.
It would be good if Muslims leave Islam for Christianity or atheism or whatever they want, as long as it is not Islam.

Friends, though we live thousands of miles apart, we – Australians and Europeans – belong to a common civilization. We share the ideas and ideals of our common Judeo-Christian and humanist heritage. We must help each other in the struggle for this heritage, because Islam is a threat to Europe as well as to Australia.

If we want to preserve our nations – our homes – and our freedoms and pass them on to our children, we must stand together, shoulder to shoulder, with Israel and the other nations in the West.

We have to rely upon each other and help each other in the struggle against a common adversary. We must stand together. Otherwise we will be swept away by Islam.

I believe, my friends, that we will stand together, that we will stand firm, that we will not submit, and that we will survive. Why?
Because we stand for the truth.
And the truth will prevail.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 01, 2013, 12:39:58 PM
Dude get help, you're a sociopath/psychopath. You have issues you need real life help not an escape to an internet forum.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 05:13:54 PM
Dude get help, you're a sociopath/psychopath. You have issues you need real life help not an escape to an internet forum.
When I read this, I couldn't help thinking it was directed at yourself.  You start and maintain threads where you are regularly the only one posting, you post overt propaganda and lies and consider it the truth, and you regularly report anyone who doesn't agree with you to the moderators.  You are typical cry baby Muslim, who is devastated when criticised and intolerant of non-muslims.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 01, 2013, 05:46:37 PM
First of all I'm Muslim and this is a thread about educational videos, photos and such about Islam. This is not a misinformational, crap some idiot islamophobe wants to blast around in his own hate thread. This is also not the politics section. Ironically like I said clowns like yourself and Geert Wilders try to equate the mein kampf to the qur'an or muslims to nazis, etc... but what the hell are you or him doing or saying? The irony.

I told you before, no one is paying you money while these islamophobes that you oh so love and praise are getting FILTHY rich off of islam bashing. They could say a Muslim has TENTACLES and everyone like minded like yourself would believe it or go YES YES, and they get paid all day long money while you remain a total fool. So in reality you're really the one at a loss whichever way we put it.

I'm not here to 'convert' anyone, I'm a resident on here and I'm a muslim and this thread is about snippets about what Islam teaches here n there and reminders. Not what an ignorant and hate filled individual such as yourself wants others to hear first so others don't hear about Islam.

Yes it takes a sick head such as your own to take a picture of a woman or a child or a picture with phrases of what islam teaches and twist it with your own demented perversions. You're wasting your precious time that you have left on this earth, you're a 40 year old fart past his half life. Slandering Muslims, Islam and making yourself 'feel' good is hardly benefiting you or anyone else it only makes you look like a fool.

People don't know anything about Islam's teachings and quite honestly most of the time spent 'debating' in ignorance, so in essence us Muslims mostly don't speak about what Islam teaches as a result and instead waste time refuting misconceptions rather than actually even talking about what Islam teaches. Most people on here probably don't realize how much Islam talks about mercy for instance. So I post a few things here and there. Islam teaches far more about mercy and love than christianity in fact but most people won't get past that point to learn that as most of it is just back and forth bs arguments with idiots like yourself trying to skew and slander Islam.

Here's a joke for ya, yes we Muslims have a sense of humor:

Quote
In England's schools today................... ...

Registry on the first day back at school in Birmingham , ENGLAND ..
The teacher began calling out the names of the pupils:-
"Mustafa Al EZheri?" "Here"
"Achmed El Kabul?" "Here"
"Fatima Al Hayek? " "Here"
"Ali Abdul Alim?" "Here"
"Mohammed Bin Kadir?" "Here"
"Ali Son al En” - silence in the classroom.

"Ali Son al En" - continued silence as everyone looked around the rrroom.

The teacher repeated the call.
A girl stood up and said, "Sorry teacher.
I think that's me.
It's  pronounced Alison Allen.

So old guy, get a life, get off the internet :)

Realize in the end also one more fact that your hate, me or you posting on an internet forum is not going to bring numbers up or down of Muslims. People outside in the real world are becoming Muslim ever day in far greater numbers than you'd like, people with the same skin color as you and I with the same European origins. You can hate all you want all day long as you want, but you're only burning bridges and building hate not learning or benefiting in anyway.

You realize garbage that you and like minded individuals such as yourself spread, helped me more to become Muslim as it led me to actually picking up a qur'an and reading it for myself. Even people who don't necessarily become Muslim but read the qur'an realize that the bs you're spreading are a bunch of hate filled lies and that's that.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 03, 2013, 10:18:51 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: stingray on March 03, 2013, 12:44:15 PM
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I remember when khalid yasin did a lecture called "purpose of life".The same night he did the lecture 40-50 people reverted to islam.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 04, 2013, 09:51:32 PM
 ;)


Title: Ex-Soviet soldiers prefer to continue living in Afghanistan and adopt Islam
Post by: bigbobs on March 05, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
OK maybe not All of them, but a significant portion :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21668541

Soviet war veteran found in Afghanistan after 33 years

A Soviet soldier who went missing in Afghanistan nearly 33 years ago has been found living with Afghans in the western province of Herat.

The soldier is semi-nomadic, has the adopted Afghan name Sheikh Abdullah and practises herbal medicine, Russia's RIA news agency reports.

An ethnic Uzbek, he was found by ex-Soviet veterans of the war.

He was wounded in battle in 1980, only months after the Soviet invasion, and was rescued by local Afghans.

The head of the official veterans' committee, Ruslan Aushev, said Sheikh Abdullah - real name Bakhretdin Khakimov - was tracked down in Shindand district after a year-long search. He had served with a motorised rifle unit.

The committee lists 264 Soviet soldiers as still missing in Afghanistan, half of them Russians. In the first decade after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989 the committee found 29 missing soldiers - and 22 of them decided to return home, while seven opted to stay in Afghanistan, RIA reports.

The committee says it is determined to track all of the missing men down.

Sheikh Abdullah was married but his wife died and he has no children.

 
Bakhretdin Khakimov disappeared in 1980 The committee's deputy chairman, Alexander Lavrentyev, said Sheikh Abdullah bore the scars of his war wounds - a shaking hand and shoulder and nervous tic. The ex-soldier, from the city of Samarkand, was able to name his former place of residence in Uzbekistan and the names of his relatives, Mr Lavrentyev said.

He understood Russian but spoke it very poorly.

In 2009 the BBC's Lyse Doucet interviewed two ex-soldiers from Ukraine, now Muslims and living with Afghans in northern Afghanistan.

Some 15,000 Red Army soldiers and more than a million Afghans were killed in a decade of fighting between a Soviet-backed government in Kabul and mujahideen fighters armed by the West and Islamic neighbours.


Title: Re: Ex-Soviet soldiers prefer to continue living in Afghanistan and adopt Islam
Post by: stingray on March 05, 2013, 06:07:23 PM
War changes soldiers.

When muslims preacher Bilal phillips was active during the iraq war in the 90's, it is said he converted up to 3000 american troops to islam.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 05, 2013, 08:00:50 PM
A-ahmed, honest opinion of these videos please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4OZGyY20U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMxuk3JbVM


Title: Re: Ex-Soviet soldiers prefer to continue living in Afghanistan and adopt Islam
Post by: loco on March 06, 2013, 08:45:40 AM
LOL    ;D


"He received a heavy wound to the head in the course of a battle in Shanind district in September 1980 when he was picked up by local residents,"

"The effects of his wounds were clearly manifested: His hand trembles and there is a visible tic in his shoulder."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/world/asia/missing-russian-soldier-found-afghanistan/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Title: Re: Ex-Soviet soldiers prefer to continue living in Afghanistan and adopt Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 06, 2013, 01:28:31 PM
Loco you're sad, I know what you're trying to imply but that's a new low of lows...


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 07, 2013, 06:35:58 AM
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Reminds me a lot of the Qureish pagan Arabs how little by little the very people who were slandering and attacking islam eventually started siding with Muslims and eventually became Muslims as they learned about Islam. Just like Abu Jahal and Abu Lahab... Geert wilders and people like him are going to fail. It's just amusing, amazing, as if they are in bed with satan himself, what are they going to win, what are they going to lose?

It's totally amazing if one reads the seerah, the exact same things are happening today. The same tactics even used by people like geert wilders were used by the qureish, and what do we learn? Eventually they failed, because lies cannot live forever, the truth prevails.

And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish." al-Isra` 17:81


Title: Muslim group helps save ancient English synagogue
Post by: a_ahmed on March 08, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
Muslim group helps save ancient English synagogue
March 8, 2013
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By: JTA

Source: JTA

(JTA) — A Muslim organization in northern England announced it would raise funds and lobby for the preservation of the last remaining synagogue in Bradford.

The Bradford Council for Mosques recently began working together with the local authority to raise funds for the Bradford synagogue, to ensure the building remains a sacred space for future generations, the Telegraph reported on March 5.

“When the chair of the Bradford synagogue approached the Muslim community for help and assistance towards the maintenance of this building, it was a challenge which didn’t take us long to decide on,” Zulfi Karim, secretary of Bradford Council for Mosques, said.

The building was originally founded in 1880 and is an example of Moorish Victorian Architecture.

At the height of the city’s wool and textile boom many Jewish people came from Europe to settle in Bradford. In recent years the Jewish community in Bradford has been in decline, and the synagogue has been under threat of closure because of a lack of funds. Bradford had a Jewish population of roughly 500 in 2008, according to the BBC.

“We are all working together to save the synagogue with the help of the local authority,”  Rudi Leavor, chair of the Bradford Synagogue, said:

Bradford has more Pakistani residents than any other place in England and Wales, according to a 2012 census. One in every five respondents identified themselves as an Asian or British Asian of Pakistani descent in the survey by the Office for National Statistics.


Title: Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon
Post by: a_ahmed on March 08, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon
Date delivered: 632 A.C., 9th day of Dhul al Hijjah, 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat.

After praising, and thanking God, he said: "O People, listen well to my words, for I do not know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Treat others justly so that no one would be unjust to you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (riba), therefore all riba obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital , however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity. God has judged that there shall be no riba and that all the riba due to `Abbas ibn `Abd al Muttalib shall henceforth be waived.

Every right arising out of homicide in pre-Islamic days is henceforth waived and the first such right that I waive is that arising from the murder of Rabi`ah ibn al Harith ibn `Abd al Muttalib.

O Men, the Unbelievers indulge in tampering with the calendar in order to make permissible that which God forbade, and to forbid that which God has made permissible. With God the months are twelve in number. Four of them are sacred, three of these are successive and one occurs singly between the months of Jumada and Sha`ban. Beware of the devil, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights over your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Treat your women well and be kind to them, for they are your partners and committed helpers. It is your right and they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste...

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God (The One Creator of the Universe), perform your five daily prayers (salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your financial obligation (zakah) of your wealth. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before God (The Creator) and you will answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR MESSENGER WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I am leaving you with the Book of God (the QUR'AN*) and my SUNNAH (the life style and the behavioral mode of the Prophet), if you follow them you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O God, that I have conveyed your message to your people.

*The Qur'an: Revealed to Prophet Muhammad during the period from 610-632 AC. The first five verses revealed are: (1) Read in the name of your Lord, Who created. (2) Created man out of a clot that clings (in the womb). (3) Read and your Lord is the Most Bountiful. (4) Who taught by the pen. (5) Taught man that which he knew not.


The Last Sermon Confirms the Main Points from the Quran
by Shahid Athar, M. D.

  
"Oh Prophet, We have sent you as a witness, news bearer and a warner and as someone who invites people to God by His permission and a shining Lamp" (33:45-46).

Prophet Muhanimad (PBUH) who was sent to mankind as a news bearer and a wamer for he spoke the truth and did not invent something of his own. The purpose of this article is to confirm the statements made by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) during his farewell address during the last pilgrimage (10 AH).

After praising and thanking God, the Messenger said, "Oh people, listen to my words carefully for I know not whether I will meet you on such an occasion again."

TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY

Sermon: "Oh people, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Remember that you will indeed appear before God and answer for your actions."

Quran: "If anyone killed a person unless it is for a murder or spreading mischief on earth it would be as it he killed the whole mankind, and if anyone who saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of whole mankind" (5:32). "Then on that day not a soul will be wronged in the least and you shall but be prepaid in the needs of your past deeds" (36:54).

FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS

Sermon: "Return the things kept with you as trust (amanah) to their rightful owners."

Quran: "If one of you entrusts (something) the one who has been entrusted with it should hand over his security and he should heed God and not hide any testimony. Anyone who hides it-has a sinfull heart" (2:283).

INTEREST (RIBAH)

Sermon: "All dues of interest shall stand cancelled and you will have only your capital back. Allah has forbidden interest, and I cancel the dues of interest payable to may uncle Abbas ibn Abdul Muttalib."

Quran: "You who believe fear God and write off anything that remains outstanding from lending at interest if you are (true) God and His Messenger If you repent you may retail your principal do not wrong and you will not be wronged" (2:278).

TREATMENT OF WIFE (SPOUSE)


Sermon: "Oh people, your wives have a certain right over you and you have a certain right over them. Treat them well and be kind to them for they are your committed partners and commited helpers.

Quran: "Provide for them the rich according to his income and the poor according to his means, a provision according to the custom. This is an obligation for those who act kindly" (2:236). "Treat them politely even if you dislike them,. Perhaps you dislike something in which God has placed much good" (4:19).

WARNING ABOUT SATAN

Sermon: "Beware of Satan, he is desperate to divert you from the worship of God so beware of him in matters of your way of life."

Quran: "Verily Satan is an enemy to you so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his followers that they may become companions of the blazing fire" (35:6).

BROTHERHOOD

Sermon: "Oh you people listen carefully. All the believers are brothers. You are not allowed to the things belonging to another Muslim unless he give it to you willingly."

Quran: "Believers are but brothers so set things right between your brothers and fear God so that you may find mercy" (49: 1 0).

SUPERIORITY IS ONLY IN PIETY AND SUBMISSION

Sermon: "Oh people, no one is higher than the other unless he is higher in obedience to God. No Arab is superior to a non-Arab except in piety."

Quran:"The most honored among you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you and God has full knowledge and is will acquainted (with all things)" (49:134). "Who can be better in religion than he who submits his whose self to God, does good and follows the ways of abraham for God did take Abraham for a friend" (4:125).

IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL WE MUST OBEY BOTH GOD AND HIS MESSENGER

Sermon: "Oh people, reflect on my words. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example and if you follow these, you will not fail."

Quran: "And obey God and the Messenger so that you may receive mercy" (3:132).

OBSERVE THE PILLARS OF ISLAM

Sermon: "Listen to me carefully. Worship God and offer prescribed prayer, observe fasting in the month of Ramadan and pay the poor-due."

Quran: "And establish the prescribed prayer, practice regular charity and bow down with those who bow down" (2:43). "Oh you who believe, fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you that you may learn self-restraint" (2:183).

DUTIES REGARDING THOSE WORKING UNDER US

Sermon: "Oh people, be mindful of those who work under you. Feed and clothe them as you feed and clothe yourselves."

Quran: "Act kindly just as God treated you kindly" (28:77). "God has favored some of you over their provisions to those whom their right hand controls so that they become equal (partners) in it. Would they thus disclaim God's favor" (16:71).

MUHAMMAD WAS THE LAST PROPHET

Sermon: "Oh people, no prophet or messenger will come after me and no new faith will emerge."

Quran: "Muhammad is not the father of any of you men but he is God's Messenger and the Seal of Prophets. God is aware of everything" (33:40).

OUR DUTY IS TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF THE PROPHET (QURAN)


Sermon: "All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again (and people did).

Quran: "Oh Messenger, communicate whatever has been sent down to you by your Lord. If you do not do so, you will not have conveyed his message" (5:67).

Sermon: Have I conveyed the Message of God to you? asked the Prophet facing towards the heavens. The audience answered in one voice, "You have, God is the witness."

Quran: As the Messenger finished the following revelation came to him, "Today I have perfected your religion for you, completed my favors upon you and have chosen for you Islam as the way of life for you" (5:3).


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 09, 2013, 07:46:35 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 10, 2013, 02:01:27 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 10, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK0KrP3TCqk


Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon
Post by: Radical Plato on March 11, 2013, 04:55:04 PM
He was wrong, non-arabs are superior to arabs, as the current state of the world reflects.  Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon
Post by: Thick Nick on March 12, 2013, 04:15:48 AM
There is proof in this mess of tampering, which you claim doesn't happen Assmed. He mention the white man. That is Lolz FAIL and clearly added later.


Title: Re: Muslim group helps save ancient English synagogue
Post by: Thick Nick on March 12, 2013, 04:22:43 AM
Muslim group helps save ancient English synagogue
March 8, 2013
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By: JTA

Source: JTA

(JTA) — A Muslim organization in northern England announced it would raise funds and lobby for the preservation of the last remaining synagogue in Bradford.

The Bradford Council for Mosques recently began working together with the local authority to raise funds for the Bradford synagogue, to ensure the building remains a sacred space for future generations, the Telegraph reported on March 5.

“When the chair of the Bradford synagogue approached the Muslim community for help and assistance towards the maintenance of this building, it was a challenge which didn’t take us long to decide on,” Zulfi Karim, secretary of Bradford Council for Mosques, said.

The building was originally founded in 1880 and is an example of Moorish Victorian Architecture.

At the height of the city’s wool and textile boom many Jewish people came from Europe to settle in Bradford. In recent years the Jewish community in Bradford has been in decline, and the synagogue has been under threat of closure because of a lack of funds. Bradford had a Jewish population of roughly 500 in 2008, according to the BBC.

“We are all working together to save the synagogue with the help of the local authority,”  Rudi Leavor, chair of the Bradford Synagogue, said:

Bradford has more Pakistani residents than any other place in England and Wales, according to a 2012 census. One in every five respondents identified themselves as an Asian or British Asian of Pakistani descent in the survey by the Office for National Statistics.


Finally a good post by Assmed...

Because it REALLY is news when the savages do anything positive. 99.9% of these stories lead to them burning shit down, so this is big news. Well done.


Title: Very powerful lecture by Hamza Tzortis on liberalism, secularism, islam, etc...
Post by: a_ahmed on March 12, 2013, 04:58:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7vrBu3MLo


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 14, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 14, 2013, 02:36:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_9BhykcSb4


Title: It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 9/11
Post by: a_ahmed on March 15, 2013, 03:16:25 PM
It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain Doubles

by Douglas Murray
December 21, 2012 at 4:30 am

Quote
The strange thing about this "multicultural" society is that it can celebrate every imaginable culture except the one that allows all these cultures to co-exist alongside each other -- and all the time with enthusiasm from pundits and politicians, busy trying to pretend that this is all the most wonderful result imaginable.

The national census for England and Wales has come out, and, as usual, this once-a-decade event has had all of its most significant points overlooked.

By any measure, what it reveals is a country undergoing seismic change. Over the course of a decade up to four million more people have entered the country to live. In the capital, London, people identifying themselves as "white British" have for the first time become a minority. Perhaps most strikingly, the national Muslim population has doubled.

This last fact is perhaps one of the least considered of the census so far. Doubled? Surely not. This has to be the claim of Mark Steyn or some other demographics-obsessed nut. Well no, it isn't, and it is now official: between 2001 and 2011 the Muslim population of the UK rose from 1.5 million to 2.7 million. Otherwise put, that is an increase from 3 percent to 4.8 percent of the overall population.

If in 2001 the British Prime Minister had said to the British public that over the next decade he intended to double the number of Muslims in the country, he would most likely never have been returned to office. But of course he did not say that, any more than any of his successors or predecessors did.

For the last decade, every major politician has lied about this issue. While talking tough, about putting a cap on immigrant numbers, pushing people to assimilate and much else besides, they have done nearly nothing. For instance, ten years ago Home Secretary David Blunkett talked as tough as he thought he could, saying that migrants ought to learn English. His successor, Jacqui Smith, said the same thing five years later. As did immigration minister Phil Woolas a couple of years after that. Throughout the last decade the Labour government managed to do exactly what the Conservative and coalition governments before and after them have also managed to do: go as far as they thought they could in rhetoric while going wholly against what they said -- and the wishes of the country -- in actions.

Now we can see the fruits of their labors. The census reveals that three million people are now living in households where no adult speaks English as their primary language. As Labour's Sadiq Khan has admitted, local councils have spent their money on translation services rather than language classes, thus actually dissuading people from learning the language. The result is communities with inter-generational language barriers. There are parts of London where a quarter of the people are in the same situation. They have created a society where many people can speak about each other but many cannot actually speak to each other. And all the while politicians and pundits are busy trying to pretend that this is all the most wonderful result imaginable.

The London Evening Standard welcomed the news that white British-born people had become a minority in their own city, and ran a lead opinion piece accusing anybody unhappy about the doubling of the number of Muslims of being "Islamophobes." Since then, the comments have barely gotten more enlightened. The author Will Self declared on the BBC's leading talk show Question Time that people unhappy about the direction Britain is going on are "racists."

On the BBC's Newsnight I sat alongside two very nice, wealthy, successful immigrants who explained how positive the census results were for Britain, showing a "diverse" and "multicultural" society. I was the only one of the four panelists to point out that this wave of immigration might have any negative effects. And the only one to point out that the strange thing about a "multicultural" society of this kind is that it can celebrate every imaginable culture other than the one which allows all these cultures to co-exist alongside each other. In other words, it is the center which is the only thing not being celebrated, and the center that is being consciously eroded. Worst of all is that this happened in defiance of the repeatedly expressed views – as tested time and again in nationwide polls – of the general public.

Of course much of this simply confirms what the last Labour government appears to have intended. Three years ago, in the same Evening Standard, Andrew Neather, a former adviser to the Blair government, said that the huge upsurge in immigration over the last decade was in part due to a politically motivated attempt by Labour ministers radically to alter the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity.'"

He went on to say that Labour's relaxation of immigration controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration," but that ministers were nervous about discussing this move publicly because they feared that it would alienate their "core working class vote."

Well, they have certainly managed to do what they wanted. The Labour government, like the Conservative governments before them, and the coalition government since, did everything it could to ignore the real concerns expressed by the majority of the public. But with no decent mainstream party to vote for, the public kept voting for the same parties as usual. Fooled by the occasional speech saying that there was going to be some"'tough" new approach, the country got stuck in a debate that has been played on repeat. Yet all the time that debate-loop was going, the ground beneath us was changing unrecognizably.

Now, true to tradition, a couple of days after the census Labour Party leader Ed Miliband has come out to declare that immigrants to Britain should learn to speak English. It is exactly what all of his recent predecessors have also said, and it is exactly what none of them -- any more than he -- have done anything concrete about. Britain has been changed, and more change is on the way. Some of those changes might be good, and others are likely to be not as good. There are those who wanted this change to happen, and there are those who did not. The former now occasionally notice that their plan has caused troubles of which they were barely aware when they set out. The latter are reviled as backwards, racist, bigoted and out-of-touch with their new country. In reality they are simply people who once had a country and have seen it changed irrevocably, and simply hold on to a feeling of sadness that nobody thought about where this would take us, or whether we the people should ever be listened to in the little matter of our own future.

Source: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3511/britain-muslim-population-doubles


Title: Number of U.S. mosques up 74% since 2000
Post by: a_ahmed on March 15, 2013, 03:23:39 PM
Number of U.S. mosques up 74% since 2000

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By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY Updated 2/29/2012 10:37 PM

While protests against new mosques in New York, Tennessee and California made headlines, the overall number of mosques quietly rose from 1,209 in 2000 to 2,106 in 2010.

And most of their leaders say American society is not hostile to Islam, according to a comprehensive census of U.S. mosques and survey of imams, mosque presidents and board members released Wednesday.

"This is a very healthy community," said lead researcher and study author Ihsan Bagby, an associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky.

They're also very engaged: The study finds "98% of mosque leaders say Muslims should be involved in American institutions and 91% agree that Muslims should be involved in politics."

The study — The American Mosque 2011 — was sponsored by the Hartford Institute for Religion Research (Hartford Seminary), the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, as well as the nation's largest Islamic civic and religious groups, including the Islamic Society of North America and the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Muslims feared being "marginalized, demonized and isolated" after 9/11, said Safaa Zarzour, secretary general of the Islamic Society. But the new study shows they have "kept their eyes on the prize — becoming part of mainstream America."

Major findings include:
•States with the most mosques are New York (257), California (246) and Texas (166).
•Most mosques are in cities, but 28% were in suburban sites in 2010, up from 16% in 2000.
•Mosques are ethnically diverse. The major participants are South Asians, Arabs and African Americans, with growing numbers of new immigrants including Somalis, West Africans and Iraqis. The study did not include Nation of Islam mosques because it is a separate religion.
•Most mosque leaders (87%) say "radicalism and extremism" are not increasing among Muslim youth, "in their own experience." They say the greater challenge is "attracting and keeping them close to the mosque."

All religious groups should be worried about losing their youth, said David Roozen, who directs the Hartford Institute, which overseas an every-decade look at the growth and health of U.S. religious congregations, Faith Communities Today.

Islam will continue to grow, he said, and the old summation of American religion -- Protestant, Catholic, Jew — may soon be revised. But it won't be Protestant, Catholic Muslim, Roozen said.

"The fastest growing group of all is those with no religion," Roozen said.

Although the study does not claim to say how many Muslims are in the USA, Bagby estimates there are 2.6 million "mosque participants" — people who have attended prayers for Eid (a major holy day) or Friday prayers or were considered participants by the mosque leader survey.
Bagby says he reached the number by taking mosque attendance reported by the leadership and multiplying the average number of attendees by the number of mosques.

Bagby's report concludes, "If there are 2.6 million Muslims who pray the Eid prayer, then the total Muslim population should be closer to estimates (by Bagby) of up to 7 million."

No other survey projects even 3 million Muslims in the USA.

For example, a 2010 survey on global Muslim population by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found there were 2.6 million Muslims, including adults and children, in the country. And a 2011 survey by the same research group found 2.75 million Muslims, including 1.8 million adults.

Bagby disputes other studies, saying they underestimate because they are based on random phone interviews and many Muslims, particularly immigrants, will not discuss their religion with a stranger on the phone.

However, the Pew research, which included phone interviews in four languages, also synthesized data from the Census Bureau and immigration authorities. Pew used country-of-birth information with data from surveys on the percentage of people from each country, or group of countries, who belong to various faiths.


Source: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-02-29/islamic-worship-growth-us/53298792/1


Title: Re: It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
Post by: B_B_C on March 15, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
wow!
The Normans didnt get there until 1066


Title: Re: It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
Post by: a_ahmed on March 15, 2013, 04:02:38 PM
lol

911 = 9/11

2001 ;)


Title: Re: It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
Post by: Archer77 on March 15, 2013, 04:23:26 PM
Muslim Population of Britain has doubled since 911
wow!
The Normans didnt get there until 1066

Hahahaha!  They are culturally stuck in 911


Title: British Census: Islam is the fastest growing religion
Post by: a_ahmed on March 16, 2013, 04:53:12 PM
British Census: Islam is the fastest growing religion
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December 14, 2012

By Imaan Ali,

London: New census data has been released in UK and it has some new facts:
-Islam is the fastest growing religion in UK
-Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity
-Indians are the largest ethnic minority
-Christianity is on rapid decline.

The census is held every 10 years in UK and the latest was conducted in 2011, whose results were made public this week. The facts are based on how people identify themselves in terms of religion and racial ethnicity. Although it is contested that not everyone may be what they identify themselves as especially when it comes to racial ethnicity.

The census was based on 56.07 million people, and 33.7 million people identified them as Christians, whereas the number of self-identifying Muslims rose to 2.7 million, that is a rise from 3% to 4.8% of the population in last 10 years.

The Muslim Council of Britain has welcomed the result, saying Muslims were playing “a significant part in the increasing diversity of Britain.”

Islam’s 2.7 million adherents make it the second-largest religion in England and Wales, far ahead of Hinduism (817,000), Sikhism (423,000), Buddhism (248,000) and Judaism (263,000). The other fringe religions are pagan, pantheist, wiccan, satanist, druid, “Jedi Knight” and others.

This comes after the latest U.S. Religion Census that was released on May 1, 2012, which also found Islam as the fastest growing religion in America. The data for the census was compiled by the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, and the results were released by the Association of Religion Data Archives.  From the year 2000 to the year 2010, the census found that the number of Muslims living inside the United States increased by about 1 million to 2.6 million – a stunning increase of 66.7 percent.

Thus Islam is the fastest growing religion in both US and UK according to the latest  census reports announced this year. No wonder Barack Obama had recently said ’we are no longer a Christian country’. He wasn’t much off the mark.

The biggest surprise of UK census was the phenomenal increase of people who said they do not follow any religion and they increased from 7.7 million to 14.4 million almost doubling in last decade, which means more then quarter of people identify themselves as adhering to no religion. The assumption is that majority of these people identified earlier as Christians. This resulted in decrease in Christian’s population from 7r% to 59% in last decade alone.

In the U.S., by contrast, a 2007 Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey found 16.1 percent of respondents identified as “unaffiliated” with any particular religion.

Major Christian denomination put up a brave face saying that most of the people who identified as Christians are practising one rather than the ones who associate themselves as ‘cultural christians’.
The results of the UK 2011 census released this week apply to England and Wales only. Separate data from Scotland will be published shortly.


Title: Re: British Census: Islam is the fastest growing religion
Post by: BikiniSlut on March 16, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
In North America the fastest growing religion is Mormonism. Something to think about.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 18, 2013, 07:53:08 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 18, 2013, 07:55:58 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 18, 2013, 07:56:46 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Archer77 on March 18, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
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Just one white mans opinion.  It carries no weight.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 18, 2013, 04:31:07 PM
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LOL George Bernard Shaw was an atheist, and so was Thomas Carlyle.  One could argue also that Gandhi lost his faith at the end of his life.  Probably not a good idea to use those who hear of Islam, investigate it and still reject it as salesmen for ISLAM.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 22, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 22, 2013, 09:54:15 PM
It is hard to imagine what would make someone consider a murdering, raping paedophile to be the greatest man that ever lived, a man who has inspired terrorism and unimaginable suffering and continues to do so.   What a sad indictment on humanity, especially those who follow this man, they surely lack any sense of natural morality or the education to know better.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 23, 2013, 03:45:02 AM
I have no respect for you.Your a human scum.Not sure why the mods let you post in the religion section.
I have only pity for you.  As a Muslim, Freedom of Expression riles you.  Muslims can't stand the fact other people have a better system, a superior model to live by, they hate it when their obvious inferiority is rubbed in their face, how the only thing Modern Muslims have succeeded at is terrorism.  I have more knowledge about religion in one of my hair follicles than you will ever learn in a thousand lifetimes. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 23, 2013, 05:12:12 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on March 23, 2013, 05:23:57 PM
Nicolai Sennels (born 1976) is a Danish psychologist. His first appearances in the Danish media concerned his unorthodox therapy methods that he developed as the only psychologist at Sønderbro, the youth prison (see here, here, here, here and here). He taught the young prisoners about mindfulness meditation and developed a special program on anger management. Sennels also developed a psychotherapeutic method that focused on teaching criminals with a low understanding of emotions and empathy how to take responsibility for their own behavior. In 2008, the prisoners of Sønderbro voted the facility as the best prison in Denmark. The leader of Social Services in the Copenhagen municipality concluded that this was due to the work of Nicolai Sennels (Amagerbladet, November 3, 2008).

At a conference on immigrant crime in 2008, arranged by the Copenhagen municipality, Sennels said that one should not use the term “criminal immigrants,” but “criminal Muslims,” since the majority of criminal immigrants have Muslim backgrounds. Seven out of ten inmates in the Danish youth prisons have immigrant backgrounds, and almost all of them are Muslims. Sennels was threatened that if he were to discuss his experiences, he would risk losing his job. This story developed into a national debate on the freedom of speech and became a widely discussed topic in the Danish media (please see here and here), and the Minister of Integration joined the discussion.

Sennels decided to publish a book on his experiences, Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist's Experiences from the Copenhagen Municipality, which was well received in both the official Psychologists Union's magazine and the newspapers. He found himself a new appointment at the Danish Ministry of Defense, and now once again he works as a psychologist for children and teenagers.

Sennels consulted on the case against Omar Khadr, a convicted terrorist serving in Guantanamo. He also contributed a chapter to the Dutch book Islam: Critical Essays on a Political Religion, along with Raymond Ibrahim, Hans Jansen, Michael Mannheimer, Ibn Warraq, Bat Ye’or and other renowned critics of Islam and Muslim immigration.

Spencer: Nicolai, people know you mainly for your articles on the psychological differences between Muslims and Westerners (please see here and here). You have also contributed your professional insights in the case against the Guantanamo prisoner Omar Khadr. You wrote several articles, as well as a book on your conclusions. Could you give us a brief account of your findings?

Sennels: There are many differences between people brought up as Muslims and those who are brought up as Westerners. I identified four main differences that are important in order to understand the behavior of Muslims. They concern anger, self-confidence, the so-called "locus of control" and identity.

Westerners are brought up to think of anger as a sign of weakness, powerlessness and lack of self-control. "Big dogs don't have to bark," as we say in Denmark. In Muslim culture, anger is seen as a sign of strength. To Muslims, being aggressive is in itself an argument and a way of gaining respect. But we should not be impressed when we see pictures of bearded men hopping up and down, shouting like animals and shooting in the air. We should take it for what it is: the local madhouse passing by.

In Western culture, self-confidence is connected with the ability to meet criticism calmly and to respond rationally. We are raised to see people who easily get angry when criticized, as insecure and immature. In Muslim culture it is the opposite; it is honorable to respond aggressively and to engage in a physical fight in order to scare or force critics to withdraw, even if this results in a prison sentence or even death. They see non-aggressive responses to such threats and violence as a sign of a vulnerability that is to be exploited. They do not interpret a peaceful response as an invitation to enter into a dialogue, diplomacy, intellectual debate, compromise or peaceful coexistence.

"Locus of control" is a term used in psychology, and relates to the way in which people feel that their lives are controlled. In Western culture, we are brought up to have an "inner locus of control," meaning that we see our own inner emotions, reactions, decisions and views as the main deciding factor in our lives. There may be outer circumstances that influence our situation, but in the end, it is our own perception of a situation and the way we handle it that decides our future and our state of mind. The "inner locus of control" leads to increased self-responsibility and motivates people to become able to solve their own problems. Muslims are brought up to have an "outer locus of control." Their constant use of the term inshallah ("Allah willing") when talking about the future, as well as the fact that most aspects of their lives are decided by outer traditions and authorities, leaves very little space for individual freedom. Independent initiatives are often severely punished. This shapes their way of thinking, and means that when things go wrong, it is always the fault of others or the situation. Unfortunately, many Westerners go overboard with their self-responsibility and start to take responsibility for others' behavior as well. The mix of many Westerners being overly forgiving, their flexible attitude, and Muslim self-pity and blame is the psychological crowbar that has opened the West to Islamization. Our overly protective welfare system shields immigrants from noticing the consequences of their own misbehavior and thereby learning from their mistakes and motivating them to improve.

Finally, identity plays a big role when it comes to psychological differences between Muslims and Westerners. Westerners are taught to be open and tolerant toward other cultures, races, religions, etc. This makes us less critical, impairs our ability to discriminate, and makes our societies open to the influence of other cultural trends and values that may not always be constructive. Muslims, on the other hand, are taught again and again that they are superior, and that all others are so bad that Allah will throw them in hell when they die. While most Westerners find national and cultural pride embarrassing, Muslim culture's self-glorification, massive use of inbreeding, the rule that only Muslims can marry Muslims and their all-pervading social control function as self-protecting mechanisms on the levels of culture and identity.

In general, Westerners are taught to be kind, self-assured, self-responsible and tolerant, while Muslims are taught to be aggressive, insecure, irresponsible and intolerant.

Spencer: That reminds me of my interactions with the likes of Reza Aslan, Salam al-Marayati, Moustafa Zayed, Ahmed Rehab, Mohamed Elibiary, Ahmed Afzaal, Omid Safi, Ibrahim Hooper, Caner K. Dagli, Haroon S. Moghul, Nadir Ahmed, and so many others. Can you give a psychological explanation as to why so few Muslims integrate into our societies?

Sennels: Integration is dependent on motivation, freedom and intelligence. In other words, immigrants have to want to integrate, be allowed to by their family and friends, and mentally have to be able to do this.

People coming from cultures that are aimed mainly at physical survival, and in which religious practice and adherence to cultural traditions give more social status than having a good education and being self-supporting, usually are not very productive if they can live on the state. If on top of that, they can live in closed communities among others with the same culture and language, there is very little reason for them to get involved in our society. The only solution is to make the lack of integration so unpractical and economically non-beneficial that the only attractive choice is to receive our offer of state-sponsored repatriation.

As history and Muslim societies have show us time and time again, there is no need for more bloody examples before the majority does as expected. Muslim societies only have to kill, rape, incarcerate, kidnap and beat a few, before the rest "voluntarily" prefer Sharia to integration.

Thirdly, handling intellectually demanding jobs in our high-tech societies, is not easy for people brought up to believe that the Qur'an and Hadith, not school and science, has the answers. Being brought up in a Muslim family also makes it difficult to adapt to Western social conduct at workplaces, including contact between the sexes and emotional control. The fact that almost half of all Muslims are inbred, often many generations in a row, also does not increase cognitive abilities. In most cases, our workplaces demand that the employees are able to take initiative and be creative and self-responsible, which are all human qualities that are not welcomed among people who are first of all expected to blindly submit and who live in surroundings that punish independent thinking and behavior, sometimes even with death.

Spencer: As a psychologist, what is your explanation as to why Muslims oppress women?

Sennels: I see two psychological explanations for the oppression of women in Islam.

John Adams, the USA's 2nd president, said that he studied warfare so that his children could study agriculture and their children could study art. Abraham Maslow formulated a similar idea, the "hierarchy of needs," which shows how we aim toward a state of full development, possessing complete inner and outer freedoms, spontaneous playful creativity and love for all.

While Adams's and Maslow's views describe the goals and aims of our Western society beautifully as the full development of an individual’s potential, they do not apply to Islam or Muslim tradition. The aim of Islam and Muslims is dominance, not self-realization. Islam and Muslim culture is an aggressive movement, and giving space to female qualities such as sensitivity and empathy would be a hindrance, since it would allow for less aggressive human tendencies to emerge. Diplomacy, compromise, tolerance, democracy, compassion, sensitivity and empathy have to be locked away both on an internal and external level. On the outside, the oppression of women limits their influence, and their aversion against femininity in the outer world helps Muslims to also repress it inside themselves on the psychological level. Oppression of women is thus a psychological method of hardening a culture on the outside and people on the inside.

The other reason why Muslims oppress women and female sexuality, is the fact that women are simply stronger when it comes to sex. And it does not work for omnipotent, jealous and insecure Muslim macho-men that they in the most naked and vulnerable situation of all are the weaker party. Muslim men compensate this by oppressing their women and locking them up in apartments and ugly clumsy garments. The more embarrassing it is for the man that the woman is stronger in this essential aspect of life, the more he must dominate her in daily life. I had contact with two prostitutes who both said that Arab men did not last very long in bed. In many Muslim societies, a women's ability to enjoy sex is simply destroyed by a knife or a piece of glass. The jealous fantasy of the man not being able to satisfy his lustful wife, who therefore looks down on him and may even go to other men to gain satisfaction, is an ongoing source of torment for the wanna-be almighty Muslim man.

True love can only exist on the basis of respect and equality. Muslim societies are therefore full of men and women who never experienced true, satisfying and giving love. The emotional and sexual frustration that results from the inequality of the sexes and being forced to marry a partner that one does not love surely contribute to the aggression and emotional immaturity that Muslims display whenever they are numerous enough to feel that such behavior is acceptable. As one said, "forced marriage is the earthquake and what follows is a tsunami of domestic abuse, sexual abuse, child protection issues, suicide and murder."

Spencer: Why do you think that Muslims living in the West are statistically more criminal and violent than others?

Sennels: Well, there are several reasons. Firstly, the Islamic scriptures teach them that attacking and robbing non-Muslims is completely okay. Muslim culture's degrading view of non-Muslims functions in the same way as war propaganda. By hearing again and again how evil, disgusting and unworthy the enemy is, empathy is removed, aggression is strengthened, and the step towards harming the perceived enemy becomes smaller. The Qur'an and the Hadith are criminal books that allow and even force people to undertake criminal acts.

The psychological differences that I mentioned before also play a role when it comes to the high crime rate among Muslims. Our diplomatic and tolerant attitude is simply perceived as weakness and exploitable vulnerability. We may not like it, but we Westerners must abandon our peaceful, dialogue seeking and politically correct ways if we hope to communicate with Muslim society. Otherwise, they will think we are too scared to risk a conflict. They simply do not respect to or understand our preferred ways of communicating.

Finally, most Muslims are unable to earn real respect from us. Their immature behavior, their lack of contribution to the community and their lack of success makes them look like real losers in the eyes of civilized modern people. And it is not easy to belong to Allah's chosen people, who are supposedly better than the rest of the lot, when in fact they come in last every time. So, because of the lack of well-earned respect, and because of not being able to discriminate between the two, they try to be feared instead. It is Muslims, not Westerners, who invented the word Islamophobia. They want us to be afraid. But we are not. We feel sick of all their parasitism, violent behavior and mistreatment of their women. We have Islamonausea.

Spencer: Is there a psychological explanation as to why political correctness is still so widespread, in spite of the obvious evidence that Islam is an aggressive ideology and Muslim immigration is eroding our societies and destroying our economy?

Sennels: Yes, there is. As I already mentioned, we Westerners are brought up to think that tolerance and openness are positive human qualities. For a long time, we did not have to be aware that such qualities are only a strength as long as nobody wants to harm us. In our meeting with Islam and Muslim immigration, our biggest strength -- our willingness to be open towards the new, that made us so curious and inventive and therefore knowledgeable and rich -- has become our worst enemy.

In my article "Psychological explanations of Political Correctness," I go through the most important social psychological explanations on irrational herd behavior. The most important are the bystander effect and pluralistic ignorance.

The bystander effect is when a person uses another reaction to assess a situation. If others do not react, it is interpreted as a sign that the situation is not serious and that there is no need to act. That is why we need more people to act, and in good style.

Pluralistic ignorance appears when people know that there is a problem but feel that it would be embarrassing to point it out. Leftists screaming "racist," the general view that it is impolite to point out obvious weaknesses in others and our culture's definition of good people as being open and tolerant, makes many people keep their mouths shut and even doubt their own sense and senses. When a majority of people, as a result of insecurity and wanting to be a "good person," do not speak their mind, the result is pluralistic ignorance. The famous Danish fairytale about the Emperor's New Clothes is an excellent example.

In the end, it comes down to cowardliness and wanting to be a good person in the eyes of others. Compassion for 700 million women who cannot chose their own sexual partners, clothing or lifestyle, as well as an openly declared war on our values and countries, the quick decay of our big cities into Sharia colonies, and the destruction of our economy as a result of Muslim immigration apparently do not count.

Spencer: Besides writing about psychology, you also write and translate articles on Muslim criminals, politics etc. Are you just a critic of Islam who happens to be a psychologist?

Sennels: No, I am a psychologist who through his work with Muslims became aware of how big a mistake it is to allow Muslim immigration and the spread of Islam in our societies. Together with overpopulation, which should be taken care of by using the enormous amounts of foreign aid to pay people who have less money, this problem is the most dangerous threat to world peace today. It has now been several decades since we passed the stage at which the problem could be solved without blood, sweat and tears.

I have dedicated my life to making people aware of the danger that is already gnawing off big chunks of our cities, economy and freedom.

The most embarrassing thing I can imagine is that the only place in this universe with intelligent life will end as a planet-sized khalifat floating around in space. Just like the bad guys in The Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and other archetypal stories of good and evil, Islam does not strive for freedom, happiness and love. Islam strives for the submission of Muslims to Allah and of non-Muslims to Muslims -- a dark, cold and humorless world where men are forced to mistreat their women and everybody is a slave to a god whose only wish is the enforcement of Sharia down to the very last comma. They do what they can to reach their final solution, and we must do what we can to prevent it from happening.

Spencer: You have several years of experience in writing and debating on Islam. You have participated in intellectual debates on Danish national TV and national radio about Islam and Muslim immigration. Many people are critical of Sharia and immigration, but do know dare to speak out -- or they are not sure how to express their views. Do you have any advice to people who feel like that?

Sennels: If we have compassion, people will feel it. Criticizing Islam is like shooting fish in a barrel, but we are not intellectual sadists. We are worried about the freedom of our women and the future of our children, and about our constitutions. And we know that the first and in many cases also the biggest victims of Islam are Muslims. We do not even have to use words like Islam or Muslims. We can just say that religions that oppress women and start holy wars make us sick. If you know that you are right, you do not have to be nervous or ashamed of yourself. Know that our politicians and media aim for the soft middle in society in order to be reelected and to sell newspapers and ads, and it is therefore up to ordinary people to protect our values, society and constitution.

Inform yourself and spread what you find out via email, social media, blogs and letters to the editor and to our politicians and journalists. When among others, the most important thing is that you do not force your view upon them and are happy and relaxed when you express your opinions. Only share your knowledge and your feelings when it feels natural -- wait until others mention the topic and use only a few words unless people really ask you several times what you think. If you are good, you can even use humor.

And do not fear to lose a few politically correct friends on the way. They will thank you in the end.


Title: So what did Muslims do for Jews?
Post by: a_ahmed on March 27, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews?
by David J Wasserstein
Source: The JC


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By: David J Wasserstein

Source: The JC

Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth. The argument for it is double. First, in 570 CE, when the Prophet Mohammad was born, the Jews and Judaism were on the way to oblivion. And second, the coming of Islam saved them, providing a new context in which they not only survived, but flourished, laying foundations for subsequent Jewish cultural prosperity – also in Christendom – through the medieval period into the modern world.

By the fourth century, Christianity had become the dominant religion in the Roman empire. One aspect of this success was opposition to rival faiths, including Judaism, along with massive conversion of members of such faiths, sometimes by force, to Christianity. Much of our testimony about Jewish existence in the Roman empire from this time on consists of accounts of conversions.

Great and permanent reductions in numbers through conversion, between the fourth and the seventh centuries, brought with them a gradual but relentless whittling away of the status, rights, social and economic existence, and religious and cultural life of Jews all over the Roman empire.

A long series of enactments deprived Jewish people of their rights as citizens, prevented them from fulfilling their religious obligations, and excluded them from the society of their fellows.

This went along with the centuries-long military and political struggle with Persia. As a tiny element in the Christian world, the Jews should not have been affected much by this broad, political issue. Yet it affected them critically, because the Persian empire at this time included Babylon – now Iraq – at the time home to the world’s greatest concentration of Jews.

Here also were the greatest centres of Jewish intellectual life. The most important single work of Jewish cultural creativity in over 3,000 years, apart from the Bible itself – the Talmud – came into being in Babylon. The struggle between Persia and Byzantium, in our period, led increasingly to a separation between Jews under Byzantine, Christian rule and Jews under Persian rule.

Beyond all this, the Jews who lived under Christian rule seemed to have lost the knowledge of their own culturally specific languages – Hebrew and Aramaic – and to have taken on the use of Latin or Greek or other non-Jewish, local, languages. This in turn must have meant that they also lost access to the central literary works of Jewish culture – the Torah, Mishnah, poetry, midrash, even liturgy.

The loss of the unifying force represented by language – and of the associated literature – was a major step towards assimilation and disappearance. In these circumstances, with contact with the one place where Jewish cultural life continued to prosper – Babylon – cut off by conflict with Persia, Jewish life in the Christian world of late antiquity was not simply a pale shadow of what it had been three or four centuries earlier. It was doomed.

Had Islam not come along, the conflict with Persia would have continued. The separation between western Judaism, that of Christendom, and Babylonian Judaism, that of Mesopotamia, would have intensified. Jewry in the west would have declined to disappearance in many areas. And Jewry in the east would have become just another oriental cult.

But this was all prevented by the rise of Islam. The Islamic conquests of the seventh century changed the world, and did so with dramatic, wide-ranging and permanent effect for the Jews.

Within a century of the death of Mohammad, in 632, Muslim armies had conquered almost the whole of the world where Jews lived, from Spain eastward across North Africa and the Middle East as far as the eastern frontier of Iran and beyond. Almost all the Jews in the world were now ruled by Islam. This new situation transformed Jewish existence. Their fortunes changed in legal, demographic, social, religious, political, geographical, economic, linguistic and cultural terms – all for the better.

First, things improved politically. Almost everywhere in Christendom where Jews had lived now formed part of the same political space as Babylon – Cordoba and Basra lay in the same political world. The old frontier between the vital centre in Babylonia and the Jews of the Mediterranean basin was swept away, forever.

Political change was partnered by change in the legal status of the Jewish population: although it is not always clear what happened during the Muslim conquests, one thing is certain. The result of the conquests was, by and large, to make the Jews second-class citizens.

This should not be misunderstood: to be a second-class citizen was a far better thing to be than not to be a citizen at all. For most of these Jews, second-class citizenship represented a major advance. In Visigothic Spain, for example, shortly before the Muslim conquest in 711, the Jews had seen their children removed from them and forcibly converted to Christianity and had themselves been enslaved.

In the developing Islamic societies of the classical and medieval periods, being a Jew meant belonging to a category defined under law, enjoying certain rights and protections, alongside various obligations. These rights and protections were not as extensive or as generous as those enjoyed by Muslims, and the obligations were greater but, for the first few centuries, the Muslims themselves were a minority, and the practical differences were not all that great.

Along with legal near-equality came social and economic equality. Jews were not confined to ghettos, either literally or in terms of economic activity. The societies of Islam were, in effect, open societies. In religious terms, too, Jews enjoyed virtually full freedom. They might not build many new synagogues – in theory – and they might not make too public their profession of their faith, but there was no really significant restriction on the practice of their religion. Along with internal legal autonomy, they also enjoyed formal representation, through leaders of their own, before the authorities of the state. Imperfect and often not quite as rosy as this might sound, it was at least the broad norm.

The political unity brought by the new Islamic world-empire did not last, but it created a vast Islamic world civilisation, similar to the older Christian civilisation that it replaced. Within this huge area, Jews lived and enjoyed broadly similar status and rights everywhere. They could move around, maintain contacts, and develop their identity as Jews. A great new expansion of trade from the ninth century onwards brought the Spanish Jews – like the Muslims – into touch with the Jews and the Muslims even of India.

A ll this was encouraged by a further, critical development. Huge numbers of people in the new world of Islam adopted the language of the Muslim Arabs. Arabic gradually became the principal language of this vast area, excluding almost all the rest: Greek and Syriac, Aramaic and Coptic and Latin all died out, replaced by Arabic. Persian, too, went into a long retreat, to reappear later heavily influenced by Arabic.

The Jews moved over to Arabic very rapidly. By the early 10th century, only 300 years after the conquests, Sa’adya Gaon was translating the Bible into Arabic. Bible translation is a massive task – it is not undertaken unless there is a need for it. By about the year 900, the Jews had largely abandoned other languages and taken on Arabic.

The change of language in its turn brought the Jews into direct contact with broader cultural developments. The result from the 10th century on was a striking pairing of two cultures. The Jews of the Islamic world developed an entirely new culture, which differed from their culture before Islam in terms of language, cultural forms, influences, and uses. Instead of being concerned primarily with religion, the new Jewish culture of the Islamic world, like that of its neighbours, mixed the religious and the secular to a high degree. The contrast, both with the past and with medieval Christian Europe, was enormous.

Like their neighbours, these Jews wrote in Arabic in part, and in a Jewish form of that language. The use of Arabic brought them close to the Arabs. But the use of a specific Jewish form of that language maintained the barriers between Jew and Muslim. The subjects that Jews wrote about, and the literary forms in which they wrote about them, were largely new ones, borrowed from the Muslims and developed in tandem with developments in Arabic Islam.

Also at this time, Hebrew was revived as a language of high literature, parallel to the use among the Muslims of a high form of Arabic for similar purposes. Along with its use for poetry and artistic prose, secular writing of all forms in Hebrew and in (Judeo-)Arabic came into being, some of it of high quality.

Much of the greatest poetry in Hebrew written since the Bible comes from this period. Sa’adya Gaon, Solomon Ibn Gabirol, Ibn Ezra (Moses and Abraham), Maimonides, Yehuda Halevi, Yehudah al-Harizi, Samuel ha-Nagid, and many more – all of these names, well known today, belong in the first rank of Jewish literary and cultural endeavour.

W here did these Jews produce all this? When did they and their neighbours achieve this symbiosis, this mode of living together? The Jews did it in a number of centres of excellence. The most outstanding of these was Islamic Spain, where there was a true Jewish Golden Age, alongside a wave of cultural achievement among the Muslim population. The Spanish case illustrates a more general pattern, too.

What happened in Islamic Spain – waves of Jewish cultural prosperity paralleling waves of cultural prosperity among the Muslims – exemplifies a larger pattern in Arab Islam. In Baghdad, between the ninth and the twelfth centuries; in Qayrawan (in north Africa), between the ninth and the 11th centuries; in Cairo, between the 10th and the 12th centuries, and elsewhere, the rise and fall of cultural centres of Islam tended to be reflected in the rise and fall of Jewish cultural activity in the same places.

This was not coincidence, and nor was it the product of particularly enlightened liberal patronage by Muslim rulers. It was the product of a number of deeper features of these societies, social and cultural, legal and economic, linguistic and political, which together enabled and indeed encouraged the Jews of the Islamic world to create a novel sub-culture within the high civilisation of the time.

This did not last for ever; the period of culturally successful symbiosis between Jew and Arab Muslim in the middle ages came to a close by about 1300. In reality, it had reached this point even earlier, with the overall relative decline in the importance and vitality of Arabic culture, both in relation to western European cultures and in relation to other cultural forms within Islam itself; Persian and Turkish.

Jewish cultural prosperity in the middle ages operated in large part as a function of Muslim, Arabic cultural (and to some degree political) prosperity: when Muslim Arabic culture thrived, so did that of the Jews; when Muslim Arabic culture declined, so did that of the Jews.

In the case of the Jews, however, the cultural capital thus created also served as the seed-bed of further growth elsewhere – in Christian Spain and in the Christian world more generally.

The Islamic world was not the only source of inspiration for the Jewish cultural revival that came later in Christian Europe, but it certainly was a major contributor to that development. Its significance cannot be overestimated.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s and do not necessarily reflect those of MuslimVillage.com.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on March 28, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 28, 2013, 02:39:16 PM
Thank you Mos, God bless.


Title: The hardline Buddhists targeting Sri Lanka's Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on March 28, 2013, 06:46:48 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21840600


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Griffith on March 29, 2013, 09:50:02 AM
What I don't get is why whites or westerners if they become Moslem they suddenly feel the need to dress like they live in the desert.

If I lived in the Middle East I would dress like them, especially as it is more practical for the heat and weather but there is no need to dress that way in a western country.





Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 29, 2013, 02:02:47 PM
Dressing modestly is not for the desert only.

In winter people 'dress up' because it's cold, but in summer people undress. Muslims dress covered regardless out of modesty.

You may dislike it but that's what we like.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Griffith on March 30, 2013, 05:10:47 AM
Dressing modestly is not for the desert only.

In winter people 'dress up' because it's cold, but in summer people undress. Muslims dress covered regardless out of modesty.

You may dislike it but that's what we like.

I'm not referring to the modesty aspect, I mean the need for a men to wear a long white robe when a coat or jeans is more suited to the conditions anyway.

It seems more like they want to show they're different as a point of principle whereas still seeming the same but having a different outlook will come across as more favourably. less hostile and more convincing I think.

Anyway, I have nothing against Islam, I agree with some of their principles but not the extremism aspects.

In terms of a viable long-term solution, the west with its extreme feminism are destroying the dynamics of a creating a family.



Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on March 30, 2013, 10:06:18 AM
Well it's surprisingly comfortable and elegant both men and women's clothing. It's different sure, but there's nothing wrong with that. Cloths are cloths in the end as long as they are modest that's what matters.

Women's abayas for instance, to me it's like princess clothing as I tell my wife lol... it's very elegant yet modest. You only can appreciate it if you understand it for what it is.

Again like I said cloths are cloths in the end.


Title: Who Guards The Most Sacred Site In Christendom? Two Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on March 30, 2013, 10:19:39 PM
Who Guards The Most Sacred Site In Christendom? Two Muslims
By Gabriele Barbati | March 29 2013 11:55 PM

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JERUSALEM -- Every Christian knows the holiest places in Christendom are in Jerusalem. The holiest of all, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, was erected in 325, over the site where it is believed Jesus was crucified, buried and rose from the dead.

Yet, few know that it is a Muslim who opens and closes the only door to this holiest of Christian sites.

In fact, it's two Muslims: one man from the Joudeh family and another man from the Nuseibeh family, two Jerusalem Palestinian clans who have been the custodians of the entrance to the Holy Sepulchre since the 12th century.

Every morning, at 4:30, Adeeb Joudeh travels from his apartment outside the walls of the Old City to bring the cast-iron key to the church, just as his father and his forebears did before him.

Once there, he entrusts the key -- looking like a 12-inch (30-centimeter) long iron wedge -- to Wajeeh Nuseibeh, who knocks at the gate to call the priests and the pilgrims who spend the night praying inside. From inside the church, a wooden ladder is passed through a porthole to help him unlock the upper part of the enormous door.

Then, he unlocks the lower one before handing the precious key back to Joudeh. The ritual is reversed every evening at 7:30, after hundreds of tourists and pilgrims have left the church.

During holidays, such as Holy Week, which culminates Sunday with the Christian Easter, the elaborate opening and closing ceremonies take place several times a day.

Why the elaborate ritual? As often happens in Jerusalem, a city holy to several peoples and religions, there are different versions to explain why two Muslim families hold the key to the holiest site in Christendom.

“After the Muslim conquest in 637, the Caliph Omar guaranteed the Archbishop Sophronius that the Christian places of worship would be protected and so entrusted the custodianship to the Nuseibehs, a family who originated in Medina and had had relations with the Prophet Muhammad,” said Nuseibeh, a retired 63-year old electrician, while waiting in a nearby cafe to carry out his duties at the Holy Sepulchre.

“It happened again in 1187, after Saladin ended the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem. He chose our family again to look after the peace between the different Eastern and Western Christian confessions, which were at odds over control of the Sepulchre," he said with a gentle smile, sitting next to his son, Obadah.

To this day, coexistence among the several Christian churches sharing the Holy Sepulchre is a delicate one. Catholic, Greek, Armenian, Coptic, Syriac, and Ethiopian Orthodox monks have resorted to fists more than once to defend their respective denomination’s rights and privileges in the church, as defined in an decree by the Ottoman Empire, known as the Status Quo of 1853.

Such impious brawls between clergy proved Saladin’s prescience 1,000 years ago, when the sultan sealed the second front gate of the church and entrusted control of the remaining entrance to neutral custodians.

The Nuseibehs claim that the Joudehs entered this story only in the 16th century, after the Ottoman Turks gained control of Palestine and decided to charge a second family with the responsibility of guarding the key.

“Yes, we share the responsibility with the Joudehs, and sometimes we argue, as happens in a family,” Nuseibeh said.

Each Maundy Thursday since the end of the 19th century, the two Muslim families give the key to the Holy Sepulchre to the local Franciscan friars, for as long as it takes to walk to the church in a procession and to open the door after the morning liturgies. When those are completed, the friars return the key to the families.

This ceremony, which confirms in practice the validity of the Muslim families’ custodianship, is repeated with the Greek and Armenian communities, on Orthodox Good Friday and Holy Saturday, respectively.

“Right now, I have in my hands the keys to Christendom’s heart. This is a very important moment for us,” said the Rev. Artemio Vitores, the Spanish Franciscan who is the vicar Custodian of the Holy Land, during the Maundy Thursday procession.

“For centuries, Christian pilgrims were denied entry to the church, or had to pay huge sums to pray on the Sepulchre,” he said, all while holding the key.

At the head of the procession, Vitores was flanked on one side by Wajeeh Nusseibeh, his son Obadah and two cousins, all of whom were equally compensated by the friars for their services with the symbolic sum of $60.

On Vitores’ other side were Adeeb Joudeh, wearing an impeccable dark gray suit, and his 19-year-old son Jawad.

For about 20 minutes, Joudeh ceded control of the only existing key to the Holy Sepulchre. While there is another key, it is broken and no longer used. The functioning key is normally kept in a small office attached to the church and is guarded by an employee of the Joudeh family.

“This key has seen Saladin and every generation of my family since 1187. To me, it’s an honor to be in charge of the holiest of Christian places," Joudeh said, while walking the cobblestoned alley leading to the Holy Sepulchre.

He insisted on showing on his smartphone what he claimed are 165 official decrees confirming the Joudeh family’s role as custodian of the church over the centuries.

“My ancestor who was given the keys was a sheik, a highly respected person, who was not supposed to perform physical labor, such as climbing the ladder to open the gate,” Joudeh explained. “That’s why the Nuseibehs were called in to perform this duty. Unfortunately, they feel still ashamed of being just the doorkeepers.”

At the end of the procession, the key was welcomed by cheerful pilgrims waiting in front of the church. 

For a few minutes, everybody stared at the solemn opening of the gate before rushing in.

Moments later, Adeeb Joudeh walked home with his son, as did Wajeeh Nuseibeh. They will come back here, time and again, at the gate of the Holy Sepulchre: two Muslims, coming in peace to bear the key to the heart of Christianity.

Source: http://www.ibtimes.com/who-guards-most-sacred-site-christendom-two-muslims-1161517


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on March 31, 2013, 07:22:56 AM
Thank you Mos, God bless.
You're very welcome ahmed, God bless you too!!


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 01, 2013, 03:36:51 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 01, 2013, 03:47:54 AM
LOL - Talk about a backward religion !

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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 01, 2013, 09:45:03 AM
^Nice redhead photoshop. Wow it's april 1st and e-kul is trolling again. Who would have thought.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 01, 2013, 11:08:23 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 01, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
The real truth !


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 02, 2013, 11:45:25 AM
British Children Convert to Islam

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By Omar Bihmidine

Morocco World News

Sidi Ifni, March 31, 2013

According to several studies conducted in Britain, the number of Muslims in the UK has increased by 37% over the last six years, while the number of mosques has reached 1,500, Al Jazeera reported on Saturday.

With hundreds of British people converting to Islam, the British authorities recently confirmed that the occurrence of conversion is more common among British prisoners and students.

During a tour to Islamic centers, Al Jazeera net has reported that some of the children who converted to Islam are originally from Brazil, Luxembourg, Panama, and Sweden.

During Ramadan last year, Alexandra, the daughter of Tony Blair’s sister-in-law, converted to Islam at age 12.

“Thanks to my mother who took me to conferences I came to know Islam. Converting to Islam has given me much tranquility and soulful satisfaction, ” Alexander said in an interview.

“Islam has changed my life for the better unlike before,” Alexander added.

Aged 14, George, originally from Sweden, for his part, converted to Islam after reading about Islam and identifying with Muslim families in London.

Referring to the biased way and sensational way in which Western media portrays Islam, George said this was part of his initial motivation to study about Islam. “What is all this controversy about Islam for?” George asked his father.

“George’s curiosity to learn about Islam and his love for call prayers has led him to embrace Islam,” Abdellah, George’s close friend, said.

Upon embracing Islam, British converts admitted that they felt inside a deep breath of relief and happiness.

According to the British authorities, the emotional, soulful void felt by the British youth is the principal motive behind seeking Islam as propeller for lasting happiness.

Source: http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/03/84814/british-children-convert-to-islam/


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 08, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
“The Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu`alayhi wa sallam) reported that the devil said to Allah: “I shall continue to lead Thy servants astray as long as their spirits are in their bodies.” And Allah replied: “(Then) I shall continue to pardon them as long as they ask for My forgiveness.”

Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 742


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 09, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 09, 2013, 01:14:59 PM
^Sorry but Islamic law would have the man executed for such heinous crimes if it's true. I haven't heard more about this story except from a few selective anti-islamic sources. It's fascinating how islamopbhobes forge their own 'shari'ah' when talking about shari'ah. A man can't be punished for murder of own children and wife? LOL... idiots who can only fool ignorant and gullible people.

You know what's saddistic about islamophobe such as yourself? You talk like an authority yet you are not aware God condemns female infanticide which was a practice before Islam amongst Arabs and is today amongst Hindus and Budhists (India and China). So it's amusing that you are saying the very opposite of what Islam actually teaches as if it's actually Islam.

Oh and there isn't a single country in the world that implements shari'ah law to the fullest. Iran is definetley not shari'ah as it's shiism. Saudi Arabia comes close but it's riddled with hypocrite and selective civil loyals and twisted rulings that adhere to the 'royals'.

A full proper implementation of shari'ah can happen under the caliphate not secular dictatorships and selective shari'ah riddled with civil laws meant to protect certain political entities.

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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 10, 2013, 05:12:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRbWxNriG0



Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 10, 2013, 07:25:44 PM
kamal el mekki is amazing mashAllah. LMAO he is also a guy who in one lecture said he took trenbolone when he was younger I couldn't believe it myself since he's so skinny but hey LOL... :) JazakAllah khair for sharing bro!


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 10, 2013, 09:37:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpsQaY5oH2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2f2CIDUNiY



Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 10, 2013, 09:38:07 PM
kamal el mekki is amazing mashAllah. LMAO he is also a guy who in one lecture said he took trenbolone when he was younger I couldn't believe it myself since he's so skinny but hey LOL... :) JazakAllah khair for sharing bro!

ha, yea. Kamal el mekki is a good guy.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 10, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4qDkKcKwIo



Title: The real criminals in the Tarek Mehanna case
Post by: a_ahmed on April 12, 2013, 12:33:21 PM
The real criminals in the Tarek Mehanna case
Source: http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/the_real_criminals_in_the_tarek_mehanna_case/singleton/

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Tarek Mehanna is seen in this image from video footage taken in Boston in 2009. (Credit: Reuters/WHDH-TV)
By Glenn Greenwald

An American Muslim punished for his political views delivers an extraordinary statement in court
BY GLENN GREENWALD


In one of the most egregious violations of the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech seen in quite some time, Tarek Mehanna, an American Muslim, was convicted this week in a federal court in Boston and then sentenced yesterday to 17 years in prison. He was found guilty of supporting Al Qaeda (by virtue of translating Terrorists’ documents into English and expressing “sympathetic views” to the group) as well as conspiring to “murder” U.S. soldiers in Iraq (i.e., to wage war against an invading army perpetrating an aggressive attack on a Muslim nation). I’m still traveling and don’t have much time today to write about the case itself — Adam Serwer several months ago wrote an excellent summary of why the prosecution of Mehanna is such an odious threat to free speech and more background on the case is here, and I’ve written before about the growing criminalization of free speech under the Bush and Obama DOJs, whereby Muslims are prosecuted for their plainly protected political views — but I urge everyone to read something quite amazing: Mehanna’s incredibly eloquent, thoughtful statement at his sentencing hearing, before being given a 17-year prison term.

At some point in the future, I believe history will be quite clear about who the actual criminals are in this case: not Mehanna, but rather the architects of the policies he felt compelled to battle and the entities that have conspired to consign him to a cage for two decades:

________________________

TAREK’S SENTENCING STATEMENT
APRIL 12, 2012

Read to Judge O’Toole during his sentencing, April 12th 2012.

In the name of God the most gracious the most merciful Exactly four years ago this month I was finishing my work shift at a
local hospital. As I was walking to my car I was approached by two federal agents. They said that I had a choice to make: I could do things the easy way, or I could do them the hard way. The “easy ” way, as they explained, was that I would become an informant for the government, and if I did so I would never see the inside of a courtroom or a prison cell. As for the hard way, this is it. Here I
am, having spent the majority of the four years since then in a solitary cell the size of a small closet, in which I am locked down
for 23 hours each day. The FBI and these prosecutors worked very hard-and the government spent millions of tax dollars – to put me in that cell, keep me there, put me on trial, and finally to have me stand here before you today to be sentenced to even more time in a cell.

In the weeks leading up to this moment, many people have offered suggestions as to what I should say to you. Some said I should plead for mercy in hopes of a light sentence, while others suggested I would be hit hard either way. But what I want to do is just talk about myself for a few minutes.

When I refused to become an informant, the government responded by charging me with the “crime” of supporting the mujahideen fighting the occupation of Muslim countries around the world. Or as they like to call them, “terrorists.” I wasn’t born in a Muslim country, though. I was born and raised right here in America and this angers many people: how is it that I can be an American and believe the things I believe, take the positions I take? Everything a man is exposed to in his environment becomes an ingredient that shapes his outlook, and I’m no different.  So, in more ways than one, it’s because of America that I am who I am.

When I was six, I began putting together a massive collection of comic books. Batman implanted a concept in my mind, introduced me to a paradigm as to how the world is set up: that there are oppressors, there are the oppressed, and there are those who step up to defend the oppressed. This resonated with me so much that throughout the rest of my childhood, I gravitated towards any book that reflected that paradigm – Uncle Tom’s Cabin, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, and I even saw an ehical dimension to The Catcher in the Rye.

By the time I began high school and took a real history class, I was learning just how real that paradigm is in the world. I learned about the Native Americans and what befell them at the hands of European settlers. I learned about how the descendents of those European settlers were in turn oppressed under the tyranny of King George III.

I read about Paul Revere, Tom Paine, and how Americans began an armed insurgency against British forces – an insurgency we now celebrate as the American revolutionary war. As a kid I even went on school field trips just blocks away from where we sit now. I learned about Harriet Tubman, Nat Turner, John Brown, and the fight against slavery in this country. I learned about Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, and the struggles of the labor unions, working class, and poor. I learned about Anne Frank, the Nazis, and how they persecuted minorities and imprisoned dissidents. I learned about Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King,
and the civil rights struggle.

I learned about Ho Chi Minh, and how the Vietnamese fought for decades to liberate themselves from one invader after another. I learned about Nelson Mandela and the fight against apartheid in South Africa. Everything I learned in those years confirmed what I was beginning to learn when I was six: that throughout history, there has been a constant struggle between the oppressed and their oppressors. With each struggle I learned about, I found myself consistently siding with the oppressed, and consistently respecting those who stepped up to defend them -regardless of nationality, regardless of religion. And I never threw my class notes away. As I stand here speaking, they are in a neat pile in my bedroom closet at home.

From all the historical figures I learned about, one stood out above the rest. I was impressed be many things about Malcolm X, but above all, I was fascinated by the idea of transformation, his transformation. I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie “X” by Spike Lee, it’s over three and a half hours long, and the Malcolm at the beginning is different from the Malcolm at the end. He starts off as an illiterate criminal, but ends up a husband, a father, a protective and eloquent leader for his people, a disciplined Muslim performing the Hajj in Makkah, and finally, a martyr. Malcolm’s life taught me that Islam is not something inherited; it’s not a culture or ethnicity. It’s a way of life, a state of mind anyone can choose no matter where they come from or how they were raised.

This led me to look deeper into Islam, and I was hooked. I was just a teenager, but Islam answered the question that the greatest scientific minds were clueless about, the question that drives the rich & famous to depression and suicide from being unable to answer: what is the purpose of life? Why do we exist in this Universe? But it also answered the question of how we’re supposed to exist. And since there’s no hierarchy or priesthood, I could directly and immediately begin digging into the texts of the Qur’an and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad, to begin the journey of understanding what this was all about, the implications of Islam for me as a human being, as an individual, for the people around me, for the world; and the more I learned, the more I valued Islam like a piece of gold. This was when I was a teen, but even today, despite the pressures of the last few years, I stand here before you, and everyone else in this courtroom, as a very proud Muslim.

With that, my attention turned to what was happening to other Muslims in different parts of the world. And everywhere I looked, I saw the powers that be trying to destroy what I loved. I learned what the Soviets had done to the Muslims of Afghanistan. I learned what the Serbs had done to the Muslims of Bosnia. I learned what the Russians were doing to the Muslims of Chechnya. I learned what Israel had done in Lebanon – and what it continues to do in Palestine – with the full backing of the United States. And I learned what America itself was doing to Muslims. I learned about the Gulf War, and the depleted uranium bombs that killed thousands and caused cancer rates to skyrocket across Iraq.

I learned about the American-led sanctions that prevented food, medicine, and medical equipment from entering Iraq, and how – according to the United Nations – over half a million children perished as a result. I remember a clip from a ’60 Minutes‘ interview of Madeline Albright where she expressed her view that these dead children were “worth it.” I watched on September 11th as a group of people felt driven to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings from their outrage at the deaths of these children. I watched as America then attacked and invaded Iraq directly. I saw the effects of ’Shock & Awe’ in the opening day of the invasion – the children in hospital wards with shrapnel from American missiles sticking but of their foreheads (of course, none of this was shown on CNN).

I learned about the town of Haditha, where 24 Muslims – including a 76-year old man in a wheelchair, women, and even toddlers – were shot up and blown up in their bedclothes as the slept by US Marines. I learned about Abeer al-Janabi, a fourteen-year old Iraqi girl gang-raped by five American soldiers, who then shot her and her family in the head, then set fire to their corpses. I just want to point out, as you can see, Muslim women don’t even show their hair to unrelated men. So try to imagine this young girl from a conservative village with her dress torn off, being sexually assaulted by not one, not two, not three, not four, but five soldiers. Even today, as I sit in my jail cell, I read about the drone strikes which continue to kill Muslims daily in places like Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. Just last month, we all heard about the seventeen Afghan Muslims – mostly mothers and their kids – shot to death by an American soldier, who also set fire to their corpses.

These are just the stories that make it to the headlines, but one of the first concepts I learned in Islam is that of loyalty, of
brotherhood – that each Muslim woman is my sister, each man is my brother, and together, we are one large body who must protect each other. In other words, I couldn’t see these things beings done to my brothers & sisters – including by America – and remain neutral. My sympathy for the oppressed continued, but was now more personal, as was my respect for those defending them.

I mentioned Paul Revere – when he went on his midnight ride, it was for the purpose of warning the people that the British were marching to Lexington to arrest Sam Adams and John Hancock, then on to Concord to confiscate the weapons stored there by the Minuteman. By the time they got to Concord, they found the Minuteman waiting for them, weapons in hand. They fired at the British, fought them, and beat them. From that battle came the American Revolution. There’s an Arabic word to describe what those Minutemen did that day. That word is: JIHAD, and this is what my trial was about.

All those videos and translations and childish bickering over ‘Oh, he translated this paragraph’ and ‘Oh, he edited that sentence,’ and all those exhibits revolved around a single issue: Muslims who were defending themselves against American soldiers doing to them exactly what the British did to America. It was made crystal clear at trial that I never, ever plotted to “kill Americans” at shopping malls or whatever the story was. The government’s own witnesses contradicted this claim, and we put expert after expert up on that stand, who spent hours dissecting my every written word, who explained my beliefs. Further, when I was free, the government sent an undercover agent to prod me into one of their little “terror plots,” but I refused to participate. Mysteriously, however, the jury never heard this.

So, this trial was not about my position on Muslims killing American civilians. It was about my position on Americans killing Muslim civilians, which is that Muslims should defend their lands from foreign invaders – Soviets, Americans, or Martians. This is what I believe. It’s what I’ve always believed, and what I will always believe. This is not terrorism, and it’s not extremism. It’s what the arrows on that seal above your head represent: defense of the homeland. So, I disagree with my lawyers when they say that you don’t have to agree with my beliefs – no. Anyone with commonsense and humanity has no choice but to agree with me. If someone breaks into your home to rob you and harm your family, logic dictates that you do whatever it takes to expel that invader from your home.

But when that home is a Muslim land, and that invader is the US military, for some reason the standards suddenly change. Common sense is renamed ”terrorism” and the people defending themselves against those who come to kill them from across the ocean become “the terrorists” who are ”killing Americans.” The mentality that America was victimized with when British soldiers walked these streets 2 ½ centuries ago is the same mentality Muslims are victimized by as American soldiers walk their streets today. It’s the mentality of colonialism.

When Sgt. Bales shot those Afghans to death last month, all of the focus in the media was on him-his life, his stress, his PTSD, the mortgage on his home-as if he was the victim. Very little sympathy was expressed for the people he actually killed, as if they’re not real, they’re not humans. Unfortunately, this mentality trickles down to everyone in society, whether or not they realize it. Even with my lawyers, it took nearly two years of discussing, explaining, and clarifying before they were finally able to think outside the box and at least ostensibly accept the logic in what I was saying. Two years! If it took that long for people so intelligent, whose job it is to defend me, to de-program themselves, then to throw me in front of a randomly selected jury under the premise that they’re my “impartial peers,” I mean, come on. I wasn’t tried before a jury of my peers because with the mentality gripping America today, I have no peers. Counting on this fact, the government prosecuted me – not because they needed to, but simply because they could.

I learned one more thing in history class: America has historically supported the most unjust policies against its minorities – practices that were even protected by the law – only to look back later and ask: ’what were we thinking?’ Slavery, Jim Crow, the internment of the Japanese during World War II – each was widely accepted by American society, each was defended by the Supreme Court. But as time passed and America changed, both people and courts looked back and asked ’What were we thinking?’ Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist by the South African government, and given a life sentence. But time passed, the world changed, they realized how oppressive their policies were, that it was not he who was the terrorist, and they released him from prison. He even became president. So, everything is subjective - even this whole business of “terrorism” and who is a “terrorist.” It all depends on the time and place and who the superpower happens to be at the moment.

In your eyes, I’m a terrorist, and it’s perfectly reasonable that I be standing here in an orange jumpsuit. But one day, America will change and people will recognize this day for what it is. They will look at how hundreds of thousands of Muslims were killed and maimed by the US military in foreign countries, yet somehow I’m the one going to prison for “conspiring to kill and maim” in those countries – because I support the Mujahidin defending those people. They will look back on how the government spent millions of dollars to imprison me as a ”terrorist,” yet if we were to somehow bring Abeer al-Janabi back to life in the moment she was being gang-raped by your soldiers, to put her on that witness stand and ask her who the “terrorists” are, she sure wouldn’t be pointing at me.

The government says that I was obsessed with violence, obsessed with ”killing Americans.” But, as a Muslim living in these times, I can think of a lie no more ironic.

-Tarek Mehanna
4/12/12


Title: bone chilling video. it deserves it own thread.
Post by: AR.2007 on April 12, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqFkj4cAKSg

dosent matter if your a Muslim or Christian. WATCH THIS VIDEO.


Title: Re: bone chilling video. it deserves it own thread.
Post by: Archer77 on April 12, 2013, 03:33:55 PM
Two separate clips have been deceptively joined together to imply a connection where there is none.  There is a plethora of early Christian writing that contain many different interpretations of Christ and his teachings.  None of these have proven to be any truer than the other.


Title: Re: bone chilling video. it deserves it own thread.
Post by: AR.2007 on April 12, 2013, 08:17:40 PM
Two separate clips have been deceptively joined together to imply a connection where there is none.  There is a plethora of early Christian writing that contain many different interpretations of Christ and his teachings.  None of these have proven to be any truer than the other.

so lets see... people who saw Jesus(pbuh) with their own eyes, ate with him, drank with him, laughed with him, walked with him. WORSHIPED LIKE HIM and WITH HIM or...........people who came 325 years later and decided to follow a man who was killing chrisitans, who claims to have gotten a message from Jesus(pbuh).

and anyone who follows Jesus's(pbuh) TRUE teachings is a muslim.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 12, 2013, 09:49:57 PM
^It never occurs to you that Muslims who follow Islam think the same from what our religion teaches? Silly you. We don't need 'gimmicks' like most getbiggers. You've already thought in the past I was bobber and that other 93 dude and whoever else... then there is stingray your neighbour in australia. Clearly we're all one person. Must be the quadrinity?


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 13, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
I see a-ahmed has started another Muslim gimmick account so he can continue talking back and forth with himself in his own thread.  How sad

So anyone who is a muslim is a gimmick of Ahmed? with your logic all the athiests on this website must be your gimmick eh E-Kul?...come on, use your head.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 13, 2013, 08:51:47 PM
So anyone who is a muslim is a gimmick of Ahmed? with your logic all the athiests on this website must be your gimmick eh E-Kul?...come on, use your head.
Hi a_ahmed


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 15, 2013, 04:37:12 AM
Good to see the Buddhists standing up to the psychopathic Muslims.  You know your religion is pure evil when you can provoke simple Buddhists to want to exterminate you.

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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 15, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
Good to see the Buddhists standing up to the psychopathic Muslims.  You know your religion is pure evil when you can provoke simple Buddhists to want to exterminate you.

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I hope you know your Buddhist buddies are killing and opressing Muslims all over the world(take a look at Burma and Bangladesh) for no other reason then they worship God alone without partners or idols. They(buddhists) are the evil ones.

and can you give me soild proof, from Quran and Hadith how islam is evil? no you cant, because Islam is prue and true.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 15, 2013, 08:06:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8e0QZRyN5w

I just found this video. lol, i seems to be made for E-kul. honestly, it debunks all of E-kuls arguments.

take a look.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 15, 2013, 08:18:16 AM
Good to see the Buddhists standing up to the psychopathic Muslims.  You know your religion is pure evil when you can provoke simple Buddhists to want to exterminate you.

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Oh I see, and the buddhists are not psychotics for hanging and burning children, creating mass killing fields, mountains of Muslim bodies, etc... the mainstream media is totally silent on what's going on in Burma and Bangladesh TOTAL SILENCE... there are mountains of bodies, basically genocide in progression. Where is the outrage of the world? Imagine it was Jews, every army, political power and media outlet would be all over it.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 15, 2013, 08:49:57 PM
US bomb kills 30 at Afghan wedding
That's too bad.  On the plus side some poor woman gets spared the miserable existence of being a Muslims wife.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-125820/US-bomb-kills-30-Afghan-wedding.html#comments (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-125820/US-bomb-kills-30-Afghan-wedding.html#comments)


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 16, 2013, 12:20:05 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 19, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 20, 2013, 08:28:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYUeDl1OZ1o


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 20, 2013, 08:30:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQIL0xwnBdI


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 02:21:28 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 03:51:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92Nx4u-SMQ


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
For those who apologise for Muslims and claim their is moderate Islam, watch this BBC documentary about how ISLAM is deliberately deceiving others and presenting themselves as moderates yet preaching extremist attitudes and a goal of overtaking Western nations.  This is serious business and should not be taken lightly, to do so will only see many more innocent people in the west killed by what you think are ordinary moderate Muslims.

This is the second documentary made, I couldn't find the first one simply called "undercover mosque", but if you can, watch that one as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRKaX0ORuI

and watch here after the Government and the Police were forced to apologise to the filmakers after they slandered the documentary.  Muslims did the usual trick of pretending they were the victims after they were caught out lecturing the most bile and disgusting Islamic teachings, and that the film-makers had unfairly edited the documentary to portray them in a bad light.  After the producers of the film took the government to Court, they won, and the Crown apologised.  It is truly sad that well meaning but naive people keep apologising for extremists, but that is the situation we find ourselves in, my only hope is that one day the trusting attitude of the West finally comes to recognise the deliberate deceptiveness of ISLAM and how they have been duped by Muslims.  Hopefully before to many more people get slaughtered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuW2NMO_EgI


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 21, 2013, 01:43:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbPkSaUDI3E


Title: Genocide of Muslims in Burma
Post by: a_ahmed on April 21, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Just today: Burmese military standing by watching while budhists attacking Muslims, settings houses and shops on fire, setting a Muslim man on fire and more.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22243676


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 22, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
‘Burmese Bin Laden’ monk spreads anti Muslim hate
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by Hayes Brown
Source: thinkprogress.org

lying in the face of the Western stereotypes about Buddhists, a highly popular monk in Myanmar is using his position to call for persecution of the country’s Muslims, going so far as to deem himself the “Burmese Bin Laden.”

Wirathu is a 45-year old monk, dressing in traditional saffron-colored robes, living in a monastery in Mandalay where he produces DVDs and pieces for social media spreading his bigotry. The monk first rose to prominence in 2001 during a wave of anti-Muslim sentiment and was originally sentenced to 25 years in jail for incitement to violence before being released in Myanmar’s general amnesty granted to political prisoners in 2012.

Since his release, Wirathu has been a key leader in the “969″ movement, a highly nationalist group so named for the nine attributes of the Buddha, his Sixfold Path, and the nine attributes of monkhood. What has followed has been a campaign of harassment towards Myanmar’s Muslim population, including boycotting Muslim-owned businesses and urging Buddhists to only patron Buddhist establishments which more and more frequently display the 969 symbol.

Tensions have reached a breaking point, however, including destroying mosques and inciting mob violence against Muslims. In March, a string of clashes between Buddhists and Muslims left at least 40 dead and 12,000 Muslims displaced from their homes. A Reuters report on the riots that lead to the bloodshed said that the riots and the killing that followed “took place in plain view of police, with no intervention by the local or central government.” Graffiti seen in the aftermath called for “Muslim extermination.”

Wirathu recently spoke to the Guardian, proving he isn’t shy about voicing his opinions towards Muslims and their supposed role in causing the violence in the country. Much like biases against Jewish and other minority faiths in communities around the world, Wirathu’s views are full of unsubstantiated rumors and outright fear-mongering:

Wirathu says part of his concern with Islam is that Buddhist women have been converted by force and then killed for failing to follow Islamic rules. He also believes the halal way of killing cattle “allows familiarity with blood and could escalate to the level where it threatens world peace”. [...]

A minority population that makes up just 5% of the nation’s total, Wirathu says Burma’s Muslims are being financed by Middle Eastern forces: “The local Muslims are crude and savage because the extremists are pulling the strings, providing them with financial, military and technical power,” he said.

Wirathu also places the blame for any violence firmly at the feet of the Muslim community, claiming that any acts his followers have carried out was merely a response to Muslim attacks. In interviews, he refers to Muslims as “Bengalis,” a reference to the widespread belief in Myanmar that members of the ethnic minority Rohingya population are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. The Burmese government does little to stop discrimination towards the Rohingya, a people stripped of Burmese citizenship under a 1982 citizenship law.

Mistreatment of minority Muslims is currently taking place in majority Buddhist country Sri Lanka as well. Groups there — that call themselves names like the Buddhist Strength Force and Sinhala Echo — have stirred up anti-Muslim sentiment but have not produced the same death toll that the preaching of Wirathu has — yet.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 22, 2013, 03:26:44 PM
‘Burmese Bin Laden’ monk spreads anti Muslim hate
(http://muslimvillage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Monk-extreme.jpg)

Wirathu says part of his concern with Islam is that Buddhist women have been converted by force and then killed for failing to follow Islamic rules. He also believes the halal way of killing cattle “allows familiarity with blood and could escalate to the level where it threatens world peace”. [...]

A minority population that makes up just 5% of the nation’s total, Wirathu says Burma’s Muslims are being financed by Middle Eastern forces: “The local Muslims are crude and savage because the extremists are pulling the strings, providing them with financial, military and technical power,” he said.

Wirathu also places the blame for any violence firmly at the feet of the Muslim community, claiming that any acts his followers have carried out was merely a response to Muslim attacks. In interviews, he refers to Muslims as “Bengalis,” a reference to the widespread belief in Myanmar that members of the ethnic minority Rohingya population are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. The Burmese government does little to stop discrimination towards the Rohingya, a people stripped of Burmese citizenship under a 1982 citizenship law.

Those poor Buddhists, they have had to tolerate these extremists for quite some time-now.  Good to see them fighting back and giving the Muslims a taste of their own medicine.  The only thing they understand.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 08:06:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFrovc_1G0


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 08:10:37 PM
Shaykh Faraz Rabbani doing a trick handshake, pretty funny. hes a Good man, Masha'Allah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoHvZvp_9Q


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX6F1AY-Z9M


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 22, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO-zni0R3eA


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 23, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
Allaah says: "And kill not your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely, the killing of them is a great sin." (Quran - 17:31)

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Islam forbids killing of children whether abortion or of any age.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
Allaah says: "And kill not your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Surely, the killing of them is a great sin." (Quran - 17:31)
Islam forbids killing of children whether abortion or of any age.
What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty.  Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.

And you know what is a great sin, is bringing a child into the world only to live a life of poverty and despair based on the false belief some imaginary force will prevent this.  To do this shows a great contempt for the sanctity of human life.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 23, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kXJ1Y0x1o8


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 23, 2013, 07:57:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYljyIM02As


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 23, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty.  Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.

And you know what is a great sin, is bringing a child into the world only to live a life of poverty and despair based on the false belief some imaginary force will prevent this.  To do this shows a great contempt for the sanctity of human life.

poor people enter Paradise long before wealthy people. Allah is the most merciful.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: stingray on April 23, 2013, 08:08:40 PM
What's Allah waiting for then, why do so many Muslims live in poverty.  Another Koranic scripture that is pure bullshit.

And you know what is a great sin, is bringing a child into the world only to live a life of poverty and despair based on the false belief some imaginary force will prevent this.  To do this shows a great contempt for the sanctity of human life.

Did the leader of jesus live in poverty, yes he did.

And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”

Was jesus learned, no he wasnt.

And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 23, 2013, 11:34:29 PM
poor people enter Paradise long before wealthy people. Allah is the most merciful.
Allah doesn't seem to merciful to the  Muslims in Burma at the moment.  I am sure he will get around to it.  He just could be busy.  You know people to see, places to go.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 24, 2013, 01:42:27 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: stingray on April 24, 2013, 02:26:04 AM

Whats the pic proving anyway?


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 24, 2013, 03:57:31 AM

Whats the pic proving anyway?
That Muslims are queer!


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 27, 2013, 09:26:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra11dCv51u0


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 28, 2013, 09:20:53 AM
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: " Feed the hungry, visit the sick and set free the captives." - Sahih Al-Bukhari

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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on April 28, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v470-SCMXmA


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 30, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: stingray on April 30, 2013, 03:59:11 AM
There is alwyas two sides of the story, both sides committed atrocities as britian sat there and watched them.

These acts of barbarism against women, committed without remorse, without shame and without condemnation by their fellow brethren show the depth of the antagonism which divided the two communities. The tempers on each side were the tempers of two warring nations. There was carnage, pillage, sacrilege and outrage of every species, perpetrated by Hindus against Musalmans


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on April 30, 2013, 10:19:45 AM
^ good post stingray.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on April 30, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on May 01, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzmbeIGOTt8


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on May 01, 2013, 10:16:14 AM
E-kul watch, before running your mouth.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on May 01, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
I watched it - it means nothing - Extremists are winning the day.  Unless the Moderates do something about the extremists in their organisation, nobody is going to pay any attention to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qRwv39YCk


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on May 01, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
I watched it - it means nothing - Extremists are winning the day.  Unless the Moderates do something about the extremists in their organisation, nobody is going to pay any attention to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qRwv39YCk

I agree with this and find it true in any large organization.   If there's no accountability or proactivity on part of the moderate majority to quell the activities of the extremist population then there's virtually no leg to stand on in terms of defense from the majority concerning "why the extremists don't represent the whole"....actions are louder than words most often.  Most large organization police their organizations thoroughly from within as a form of accountability and goodwill.  

I find this true for churches like Westboro Baptist.....their "God hates fags" and "Homos burn in hell" stuff is terrible and the Southern Baptist convention leadership should take action if they haven't already.  Those sentiments don't represent Jesus Christ and the church should be reprimanded.  


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 01, 2013, 06:25:20 PM
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x2

Imagine what our grandparents would have done to Muslims if the 9/11 attacks had happened in the 1940's.  


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: stingray on May 01, 2013, 09:19:43 PM
x2

Imagine what our grandparents would have done to Muslims if the 9/11 attacks had happened in the 1940's.  

Granparents of the 40's were slaughtering the original ancestors of the lands even before white man arrived.

Just ask the aboriginals of australia or the indians of America.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 03, 2013, 01:14:11 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 03, 2013, 01:15:20 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 03, 2013, 01:16:37 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2013, 08:10:01 PM
Did the leader of jesus live in poverty, yes he did.

And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”

Was jesus learned, no he wasnt.

And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Who is the leader of Jesus?


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: stingray on May 04, 2013, 01:22:44 AM
Who is the leader of Jesus?

Grammatical error.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Man of Steel on May 04, 2013, 07:16:07 AM
Grammatical error.

I gotcha....thought that might be the case.....thanks!


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 04, 2013, 09:32:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDHI-coE2og


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 04, 2013, 10:28:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZywf512xs


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 04, 2013, 11:00:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhv6Ii2cRyk


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 04, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLK93COpPc


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 05, 2013, 07:51:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqb0RaUmkLw


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 06, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on May 07, 2013, 02:57:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 07, 2013, 08:47:35 AM
^Lies don't help your ignorance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJszStth7k


Title: Dialogue, Don't Debate With Christians - Aras Konjhodzic
Post by: AR.2007 on May 09, 2013, 12:55:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_y8SjfgFto


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 10, 2013, 07:47:55 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on May 13, 2013, 08:54:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-lJK494qY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8V7hqv3AE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HboAii4jILM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo35l6mhosk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oQFitU5H0


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 13, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
mashAllah great posts bro

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And perform the Salah, at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night. Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds. That is a reminder for the mindful.

(Hud : 114)


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on May 13, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
mashAllah great posts bro

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181221_345358285567439_812449148_n.jpg)

And perform the Salah, at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night. Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds. That is a reminder for the mindful.

(Hud : 114)


^yep. Salah is one of the most important things in life!

May Allah accept all of our Salahs, Ameen.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 20, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 20, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrgtPq4xtp8


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 25, 2013, 08:52:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBDSuH8ZVs


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 25, 2013, 08:53:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdrvElf0MKc


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: a_ahmed on May 27, 2013, 03:05:17 PM
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Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: avxo on May 27, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
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Was that before or after they stabbed a soldier in the neck?

I'm fairly lev-headed I think and I don't blame the whole for the actions of the few, but we have seen a pattern start to emerge:

Muslims who claim to be moderate will not step in and unconditionally condemn the extreme action of other Muslims, if they condemn them at all.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: AR.2007 on May 27, 2013, 09:16:58 PM
Was that before or after they stabbed a soldier in the neck?

I'm fairly lev-headed I think and I don't blame the whole for the actions of the few, but we have seen a pattern start to emerge:

Muslims who claim to be moderate will not step in and unconditionally condemn the extreme action of other Muslims, if they condemn them at all.


Are you serious?

Every Friday at the mosque during the (kuthba)lecture the speaker out right condemns terrorism of any form.

Hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos talking about how killing/terror is not islam and outright forbidden.

Many many many big Islamic scholars have come out against terrorism/murder of innocent people/terrorist groups and gangs

We(Muslims on getbig) have showed you many verses of the Quran in which killing of innocent people has been STRICLY forbidden.

And for your information most terror attacks which have been disrupted/prevented from happen was because of MUSLIMS who took action to stop the terrorists!

The media will never show you how much good Muslims have done in stopping terrorists! The Muslims could stop 10 terror attacks and miss 1 and all of a sudden it's those 10 which were stopped never existed... Look at the recent plane to bomb a train headed from Canada to NY. It was stopped by a local imam! So many many cases like this which the media dosent report.

Open your eyes! Use your head!

Do you think muslims enjoy these attacks? NO! We hate then much more then you do.
Seriously, some loser lunatic who dosent even know the basics of islam will go bomb something and the rest of us muslims feel the discrimination, hate, insults...all for what? Something which we had nothing to do with, and neither did the beautiful religion(islam). These idiots(terrorists) have killed more Muslim men,women and children then all non-muslim men, women, children combined!


So please quit this garage of "you don't condem them"...because WE DO! If the media fails to report it, then that's separate issue.
 


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: avxo on May 27, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
Are you serious?

Every Friday at the mosque during the (kuthba)lecture the speaker out right condemns terrorism of any form.

Hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos talking about how killing/terror is not islam and outright forbidden.

Many many many big Islamic scholars have come out against terrorism/murder of innocent people/terrorist groups and gangs

We(Muslims on getbig) have showed you many verses of the Quran in which killing of innocent people has been STRICLY forbidden.

And for your information most terror attacks which have been disrupted/prevented from happen was because of MUSLIMS who took action to stop the terrorists!

The media will never show you how much good Muslims have done in stopping terrorists! The Muslims could stop 10 terror attacks and miss 1 and all of a sudden it's those 10 which were stopped never existed... Look at the recent plane to bomb a train headed from Canada to NY. It was stopped by a local imam! So many many cases like this which the media dosent report.

Open your eyes! Use your head!

Do you think muslims enjoy these attacks? NO! We hate then much more then you do.
Seriously, some loser lunatic who dosent even know the basics of islam will go bomb something and the rest of us muslims feel the discrimination, hate, insults...all for what? Something which we had nothing to do with, and neither did the beautiful religion(islam). These idiots(terrorists) have killed more Muslim men,women and children then all non-muslim men, women, children combined!


So please quit this garage of "you don't condem them"...because WE DO! If the media fails to report it, then that's separate issue.
 

If you unconditionally condemn such attacks, then good for you. Maybe the media doesn't cover this sort of thing, and maybe they should. But the important thing is to condemn this sort of brutality in no uncertain terms.


Title: Re: Educational Videos and Articles about Islam
Post by: Radical Plato on May 27, 2013, 11:02:49 PM
If you unconditionally condemn such attacks, then good for you. Maybe the media doesn't cover this sort of thing, and maybe they shoul