ISSA certification

[onlyme]

Zach is pretty close to correct on the figures from 24 Hour Fitness.  I only know about the Hawaii clubs but the Mgr's. there are pulling in a ton of money.  The guy who was heading up all their PT's there was doing about $100,000 a year.  The regional manager was doing $125,000+ a year.  24 Hour Fitness does take care of their employees.  Maybe too much.  If I heard it right, they have never had a year in the black yet.  They were sold two years ago for $1.6 billion almost solely based on their income.  It is amazing how much they do in memberships and PT.  But they build and own all their gyms and so far they are spending more than they make it appears.  But, take into account their income and all the intellectual property they own and they are worth a lot.  They have less than half the gyms Gold's Gym had when they sold but they got 10 times more money when they sold.

You dont really believe this do you?

they get a $500  base per month and percentage of sales they make as well as a percentage of the total PT sales of the club. Most Mega-commercial gyms are lucky to sell 10k in PT in a month ( excluding pre-sales and grand openings) so if they get 10% of 10k , well thats 1k plus a $500/month base. These guys are banking! lol

I have never heard anyone getting a base of $500.  NO ONE.  $10K a month in Personal Training is not a lot for a large club.  In fact it is very low for a large club and more than likely if a club only did that much they would probably quit offering PT.  A typical 24 Hour in Hawaii probably does $30,000 to $50,000 a month in PT.  There was an article in Club Industry awhile back and all the 24 Hour Fitness in Asia together were pulling in an average of $75,000 a month.  I think it was 24 Hour Fitness and that number is pretty close.  PT is the #1 ancillary profit center in a club.  So you need to do some research first.  Either that or find some real gyms.  Cause with the numbers you put up that had to be some little hole in the wall

[danielson]

How is your gym doing Keith? Tell us about a little about it.

[Devon97]

Zach is pretty close to correct on the figures from 24 Hour Fitness.  I only know about the Hawaii clubs but the Mgr's. there are pulling in a ton of money.  The guy who was heading up all their PT's there was doing about $100,000 a year.  The regional manager was doing $125,000+ a year.  24 Hour Fitness does take care of their employees.  Maybe too much.  If I heard it right, they have never had a year in the black yet.  They were sold two years ago for $1.6 billion almost solely based on their income.  It is amazing how much they do in memberships and PT.  But they build and own all their gyms and so far they are spending more than they make it appears.  But, take into account their income and all the intellectual property they own and they are worth a lot.  They have less than half the gyms Gold's Gym had when they sold but they got 10 times more money when they sold.

I have never heard anyone getting a base of $500.  NO ONE.  $10K a month in Personal Training is not a lot for a large club.  In fact it is very low for a large club and more than likely if a club only did that much they would probably quit offering PT.  A typical 24 Hour in Hawaii probably does $30,000 to $50,000 a month in PT.  There was an article in Club Industry awhile back and all the 24 Hour Fitness in Asia together were pulling in an average of $75,000 a month.  I think it was 24 Hour Fitness and that number is pretty close.  PT is the #1 ancillary profit center in a club.  So you need to do some research first.  Either that or find some real gyms.  Cause with the numbers you put up that had to be some little hole in the wall

Keith, DO you REALLY think that a Fitness/Personal Training Director of a gym is making 10k per month?

YES at a LARGE LA. Fit or 24 HR the GENERAL MANAGER of the ENTIRE club could make that BUT That was not the argument....Zach Townbridge thinks and believes that a Personal Training Director can train 2 clients per day and not do shit the rest of the day and can make up to 115K per year.

[Mydavid]

I just started ACE so well see. It was only like 250 for the books and practice exams and then its another 250 for the test.

That was one hard test...uggggghhhhhhhhhhh hh!!!

Lisa

[onlyme]

Keith, DO you REALLY think that a Fitness/Personal Training Director of a gym is making 10k per month?

YES at a LARGE LA. Fit or 24 HR the GENERAL MANAGER of the ENTIRE club could make that BUT That was not the argument....Zach Townbridge thinks and believes that a Personal Training Director can train 2 clients per day and not do shit the rest of the day and can make up to 115K per year.

I don't think all of them but I do know what the head guy was making in Hawaii.  I am sure not even 10% make more than a couple grand a month if that.  but the guys who are the bosses sure can.  And a guy who only trains 2 people a day and manage will not make that much as Zach says but I don't think that is what he means.  My good friend in Hawaii who was the head of all the PT's in Hawaii was doing about $12,000 a month average.  That was his salary and included training.  My PT's at my Golds that I owned were making $35 a session on average.  NO ONE was making a ton of money but that was because our PT program sucked.  But on the other hand my friend here in Vegas was doing way more than $10,000 a month in private training.  The guy who would know exactly how much they were paying in Hawaii would be AmericanBullDog who comes on here.  He knows exactly what they were making.  The manager at Golds in Honolulu was getting I think $5,000 to $6,000 a month from corporate.

I am paying my manager $4,000 a month plus 1% of the total monthly (gross) income from membership and pro shop.  My sales manager is getting $2,000 a month plus 3% of all membership sales.  My PT's are getting $9 an hour plus 35% of each session fee they have.  The independants can charge whatever they want and they pay me a rent of anywhere from $300 to $500 a month.  Here in Vegas PT is pretty big from what I have seen.  You can get through 30 to 50 clients a day here if not more from one the big clubs like 24 or LVAC. 

[Devon97]

I don't think all of them but I do know what the head guy was making in Hawaii.  I am sure not even 10% make more than a couple grand a month if that.  but the guys who are the bosses sure can.  And a guy who only trains 2 people a day and manage will not make that much as Zach says but I don't think that is what he means.  My good friend in Hawaii who was the head of all the PT's in Hawaii was doing about $12,000 a month average.  That was his salary and included training.   My PT's at my Golds that I owned were making $35 a session on average.  NO ONE was making a ton of money but that was because our PT program sucked.  But on the other hand my friend here in Vegas was doing way more than $10,000 a month in private training.  The guy who would know exactly how much they were paying in Hawaii would be AmericanBullDog who comes on here.  He knows exactly what they were making.  The manager at Golds in Honolulu was getting I think $5,000 to $6,000 a month from corporate.

I am paying my manager $4,000 a month plus 1% of the total monthly (gross) income from membership and pro shop.  My sales manager is getting $2,000 a month plus 3% of all membership sales.  My PT's are getting $9 an hour plus 35% of each session fee they have.  The independants can charge whatever they want and they pay me a rent of anywhere from $300 to $500 a month.  Here in Vegas PT is pretty big from what I have seen.  You can get through 30 to 50 clients a day here if not more from one the big clubs like 24 or LVAC. 

Your "good friend" was the head of All the Personal trainers in Hawaii??  LOL
Who paid him ? The Honolulu chamber of commerce? LOL A state employee in the dept of recreation will not make anywhere NEAR $12,000 per month. Hell I didnt even know each state had a "head trainer" lol.

[danielson]

Your "good friend" was the head of All the Personal trainers in Hawaii??  LOL
Who paid him ? The Honolulu chamber of commerce? LOL A state employee in the dept of recreation will not make anywhere NEAR $12,000 per month. Hell I didnt even know each state had a "head trainer" lol.

Hahah, good catch. He probably meant the head of Hawaiis biggest gym franchise.

[onlyme]

Your "good friend" was the head of All the Personal trainers in Hawaii??  LOL
Who paid him ? The Honolulu chamber of commerce? LOL A state employee in the dept of recreation will not make anywhere NEAR $12,000 per month. Hell I didnt even know each state had a "head trainer" lol.

Hey smart ass I was talking about 24 Hour Fitness at the time so most half smart people would have associated that I meant 24 Hour fitness is who he worked for.  But I understand your mentality now so I will type more clear for you.  thanks for playing though.

[The Master]

  But I understand your mentality now  

LOOL