Where Do You Stand? With the Rich or Middle Class?

[Natural Man]

pretty much. Unless you are a rich and cultured person who votes democrat. I'm not saying that's a good thing, just pointing out this scenario.

being rich while pretending to not being rich is just a smart strategy of survival. What most hipsters are doing daily.  It s also a nice way to subtly belittle people who are poorer; you stay with them, are in a position of power for example at work, pretend to be like them, but everyone knows you re richer. Just another way to mindfuck people. I laugh at the rich dudes of all ages dressing and acting like they re poor. One way or another they ll let you know they re richer than you one day, just to set the record straight; because we re animals pretending to be saints when in fact we re just trying our best to dominate instead of being dominated.

[The_Hammer]

being rich while pretending to not being rich is just a smart strategy of survival.  It s also a nice way to subtly belittle people who are poorer; you stay with them, are in a position of power for example at work, pretend to be like them, but everyone knows you re richer. Just another way to mindfuck people.

 

[Natural Man]

interesting vid. The part with the wife and mistress being ok to live with him as long as he pays for everything is alphamaleness at it's finest. Not too surprised; the Bible doesnt say to be loyal to only one wife, but to not commit adultery; ie taking the woman of another man. But as long as women want to flock to you for some reasons -richness, genes- and are ok to share you having a harem isnt really impossible. But it takes an iron first and expert skills at psychological warfare. Marriage, is only an alliance allowing two lifeforms to cooperate in order to insure their survival and shared interests.

I dont see how him dining where he likes the food instead of classy restaurants doesnt mean he will let know other men of his wealth to dominate them. Look at the man, look at the "animal", his wealth is his armor.

Poorer, dumber, slower men use other artifices as armors/weapons; showing off muscles at work, height, aggressiveness, mindgames, tattoos, big car etc... Some alphas dominate using money, wealth and psychological warfare, other who cant use what they have; muscles , leased cars, pretending to be richer than they are..

We all survive with what we have; ie our strenghts, abilities to dominate someone else or several persons. The strategies of survival we inherited and learned.

[The_Hammer]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/09/10/pay-gap-richest-poorest/2793343/

Top 1% take biggest income slice on record

The gulf between the richest 1% of the USA and the rest of the country got to its widest level in history last year.

The top 1% of earners in the U.S. pulled in 19.3% of total household income in 2012, which is their biggest slice of total income in more than 100 years, according to a an analysis by economists at the University of California, Berkeley and the Paris School of Economics at Oxford University.

The richest Americans haven't claimed this large of a slice of total wealth since 1927, when the group claimed 18.7%. The analysis is based on data from Internal Revenue Service data.

One of the economists behind the research, Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley, is a top researcher in the topic of wealth and income inequality. He won the John Bates Clark medal last year. The Clark medal is awarded to the most promising economists under the age of 40. Past winners have includes Paul Krugman of Princeton University, Lawrence Summers and Steve Levitt, co-author of "Freakonomics."

In a separate analysis, Saez found the top 1% of earnings posted 86% real income growth between 1993 and 2000. Meanwhile, the real income growth of the bottom 99% of earnings rose 6.6%.

If you're suggesting Obama has anything to do with this you're either:

a) stupid

b) uninformed

What do you suppose all this sequestration business affecting the U.S. is all about?

Neither side could compromise on a deal regarding the budget.  Generally, Republicans want to tax the middle class and make huge cuts to social programs.  Generally, Democrats want to tax the wealthiest 2% and make structured, small cuts to social programs.

This debate isn't about ideology, it's about whether you want your taxes cut or raised.  

Personally, I'm not one of the wealthiest 2% of Americans (wealthier than the 98% combined), so I support taxing the ultra wealthy a little more than they're use to.

What do two of the wealthiest men in the world think about Obama's tax proposal?...

[The_Hammer]

interesting vid. The part with the wife and mistress being ok to live with him as long as he pays for everything is alphamaleness at it's finest. Not too surprised; the Bible doesnt say to be loyal to only one wife, but to not commit adultery; ie taking the woman of another man. But as long as women want to flock to you for some reasons -richness, genes- and are ok to share you having a harem isnt really impossible. But it takes an iron first and expert skills at psychological warfare.

I dont see how him dining where he likes the food instead of classy restaurants doesnt mean he will let know other men of his wealth to dominate them. Look at the man, look at the "animal", his wealth is his armor.

Poorer, dumber, slower men use other artifices as armors/weapons; showing off muscles at work, height, aggressiveness, mindgames, tattoos, big car etc... Some alphas dominate using money, wealth and psychological warfare, other who cant use what they have; muscles , leased cars, pretending to be richer than they are..

Agreed, inferiority complex.

[Natural Man]

Agreed, inferiority complex.

Doesnt mean they wont impress the rich skinny old man in the line at the theatre or mall. It will probably work. We all have something others wish they had so... Having it all is probably the closest to perfection a man can dream; money, health, muscles, stable family with submissive wife ok with mistresses who might even be her best friends, big house, car(s) ...

we cant escape the animal reality of our condition; we can only manage to benefit from it the best we can with what we have.

[Tapeworm]

pretty much. Unless you are a rich and cultured person who votes democrat. I'm not saying that's a good thing, just pointing out this scenario.

I don't know anyone 'rich' but all the well-to-dos I've met are total bleeding hearts. 

[RRKore]

the job creation lie and giving money to charity are despicable tax evasion schemes.

for fuck sake, read books from both sides of the spectrum and then conclude something.

Books?  Watching Fox News isn't enough?

[Natural Man]

another thing, why must we always have economic growth?why is that the foundation of all?

theres been times where full employment was more important,even in the usa, not too long ago btw.

and keynes, have people read his stuff?hes massively mis-interpreted these days by many.

he had some good points, but didnt factor in the endless human greed(if thats natural or not is up to debate)

growth is based on money, money is based on value of work and competition. You cant change that order of things. Some people are smarter at making money, working or doing something else to earn it, as others, as simple as that. People live, die, and the circle repeats itself. You cant remove competition from life, or inequalities, as they are the essence of life itself, the challenge, what gives taste to life. A bitter taste for those who fail and a delicious one to those who succeed.

[_aj_]

i have a really important questions for the reaganomics fans, the trickle down shananigans believers.


before reagon took office, the usa was biggest creditor worldwide, 4 years later usa was biggest debitor worldwide.

no joke, how the hell is this possible?

what you say

According to this: http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm the US has been in debt since 1919.

Carter was in for $250B, which seems like chump change. Reagan was in for $1.5T over 8 years, but he would say it was a military buildup to bury the Soviets. Obama appears to be on course for $8-$10T.