art of the binge

[Simple Simon]

Cephissus, do you have any pics when you were at your strongest?

hes likely burned them all.

[spiro]

You would like awesome after 20 weeks of just test and dbol with your level of leaness.

[Henda]

Chyphliss was quite the large and powerful gentleman in his prime before he started diet advice from dj181

[cephissus]

So you dont eat all the meals you make?
I thought not.

Prior to today, I ate once per day.  The meals I've been posting recently have been about 1700-2000 calories.

I usually had another 200 or so calories in dessert or throughout the day.  Not sure why it's hard to believe I ate them...

[The True Adonis]

Prior to today, I ate once per day.  The meals I've been posting recently are have been about 1700-2000 calories.

I usually had another 200 or so calories in desert or throughout the day.  Not sure why it's hard to believe I ate them...

Because anything they don't do is hard for them to imagine.

I know you ate the meals in the manner you state because I do and have done the same thing at times.  Nothing wrong with that approach, its just that you cannot let it control you. 

[cephissus]

Btw adonis, unfortunately I don't think I have a pic of me at my "strongest".

At 202 I got a 405 lb squat.  I think I was around that weight when I got 315 x 15, as well.

At 210 I got a 515 lb deadlift.

At ~240-250 (can't remember, tbh) I got a 320 lb bench.  I think my strength didn't increase much past ~200, but I only have pics from ~240+ and ~190 (avatar is about 180, I think) and down.

[The True Adonis]

Btw adonis, unfortunately I don't think I have a pic of me at my "strongest".

At 202 I got a 405 lb squat.  I think I was around that weight when I got 315 x 15, as well.

At 210 I got a 515 lb deadlift.

At ~240-250 (can't remember, tbh) I got a 320 lb bench.  I think my strength didn't increase much past ~200, but I only have pics from ~240+ and ~190 (avatar is about 180, I think) and down.

May as well post them up so we can see the progression.  It could prove to be helpful in what you are now doing.

[Thong Maniac]

I just had a small pizza and stout beer just now and was thinking of this thread. Reverse dieting is going to be harder than just cutting. Im dreading it

[cephissus]

~165 (taken yesterday, last day of starvation):



~180:






~210:





~240:



~260:





here's me as a youngster, about the same weight I am now:





guess i am a little leaner... didn't train legs back then, however.

[Henda]

Looked great at 210 mate, best out of all the pics imho

[mazrim]

Around 190ish you'd prob look very good judging by those pics and still keep a very lean look you like

[tleilaxutank]

I'm actually glad to see that those spider legs are genetic and not the result of your plans to kill yourself through fasting...Other than that you have good shape and size. Now start taking better care of yourself; you should have enough fat on your body to feel like a man from time to time...

[Taffin]

Paul Michael Glaser looking jacked in that last B&W picture!

[PJim]

~165 (taken yesterday, last day of starvation):



~180:






~210:





~240:



~260:





here's me as a youngster, about the same weight I am now:





guess i am a little leaner... didn't train legs back then, however.

Looking at you at 210 you are pretty lean. Somewhere between there and 165 you seem to have have lost about 20lbs of muscle imo

[iwannabejacked]

You look like you distribute your weight pretty well, even when you were 240-260, same as me. But at 210 you already looked somewhat lean (it seems like you never lose your abs, like myself), I don't see much back fat even if the pic is blurry. Sure, you might have had some leg fat, which according to your other pics seems like a place where you hold some weight when heavy, but there is no way in hell you had to cut down to 165 to get to the body fat % you are at in your 165 pics. Even at the 180 lbs pics you look like you had already lost some muscle, since it doesn't look like you needed to lose that much from the condition you were at 210.

I also agree with what some people here have said, there is no way in hell you eat everything you post in your pictures, or else you would clearly weigh more and not have all those symptoms of calorie deprivation.

I know you have already gained 15 lbs (probably look worse than before at the same weight from gaining it so fast and being bloated), but you also have to erradicate the binging part. Don't try to gain it all super fast either, just eat more consistently.

If I were you, I would bulk up to 210 in like a year or so to get to a similar condition you were in those old pics at that weight and then, when you feel you have solved your eating issues, try to get leaner, since that's what you like. You said somewhere you weren't gifted for a natty, but I don't think your genetics are shitty at all. I mean, from the 210 pics it looked like at 180-190 you would be shredded like you are now, but not looking kinda anorexic... 180-190 shredded for a true natty at 6'3" ain't bad imo. In my case, I'm 5'10.5"-5'11" and to be shredded I have to weigh like 145, so if the 7 lbs per inch is true, if I was your height, I'd weigh around 173-175, which means you have around 10 lbs more muscle than me. It's likely you just stopped eating altogether, cause there is no way you dropped that much weight by eating around 2000 calories like you said. When I was dieting I was eating around 1500 calories and at some point when your body fat gets lower, you just can't keep losing at the same rate. I remember you also mentioned in an old post when you had achieved striated glutes that you don't do cardio, which makes it harder to believe that you were eating everything you showed in the pics.

[Nether Animal]

That doesn't look 260, even at 6'3''. Still, some impressive shots, what do you think of your arms?

[38-26-40]

Jeez Ceph...not while I'm dieting 

[cephissus]

my first (and last?) eating challenge: 5 lbs of food (burger + fries)



prize was a t-shirt if finished under an hour.  finished in 22 minutes, but apparently they were out of shirts



i attempted a 20,000 calorie day, of which this challenge marked the beginning.  before the day, i weighed in at 173:



Long story short, I gave up.  Just got way too tired to catalogue everything and then figured, what's the point.  Nonetheless, I think I got pretty close.  Afterwards, I weighed 192.  Here I am, still bloated as fuck:



so can you please refrain from the "starvation victim" comments next time you feel so inclined

well, i'm sure everyone will next favor the "bulimic" angle of attack.  unfortunately, the only form of "purging" i've done has been sitting on my ass.  after not missing a workout for probably over a year (and many times 2 workouts a day), i've been on an extended leave from my job, during which i've eaten like mad and skipped exercise when i felt like doing so.

i'm still very uncertain how to proceed, but my mind feels clearer every day.  i only wish more people talked about the negative mental affects of being so lean.  i wasn't sure -- and still am not sure -- whether my mind was so fucked from my job or starvation / over-exercise.  undoubtedly both contributed, but which is more to blame?  hard to say, but previously I always suspected my job, probably because I had never even heard about the kind of hormone imbalances and mental affects that can occur at low bodyfat.  leptin deficiency, low T3/T4, etc... why don't more people talk about this?  Or maybe I just never paid attention.

To address some of the other points:

I also agree with what some people here have said, there is no way in hell you eat everything you post in your pictures, or else you would clearly weigh more and not have all those symptoms of calorie deprivation.

After all the embarrassing shit I've posted, I really don't know why people continue to think this.  To (hopefully) put the final word in:

Those meals I posted were, for the most part, EVERYTHING I ATE IN AN ENTIRE DAY.  Furthermore, many of those meals were largely composed of FUCKING VEGETABLES.  To go from ~200 to 165 I drank coffee all day and ate a single meal at night, which averaged about 1700-2000 calories.  True, during this time I didn't do any cardio.

Once at 165 or so, I added in cardio, about 40 minutes a day of steady state.  However, this was HARD cardio.  I am a good runner, and would often be running at 9-10 MPH for a significant portion of this cardio.  If I was on the bike, I would be doing intervals for 40 min straight.

According to the machines, I probably burned about 500 calories a day from cardio.  I'd estimate another 200-300 from weight training, as I took very little rest between sets and kept my heart rate high.

That doesn't look 260, even at 6'3''. Still, some impressive shots, what do you think of your arms?

Astute observation, it was actually 258.4 or something like that

My arms are shit.  Well, really, my whole body is shit but my arms maybe even a little moreso than the rest.

Jeez Ceph...not while I'm dieting

Feel free to PM me progress pics and I will immediately refrain from posting any further binge material.

[Nether Animal]

Nah you are pretty aesthetic in some shots. Not easy at that height to look balanced and not narrow through the upper body. Low lat insertions too, I don't have that.