Obama beating McCain in national polls

[240 is Back]

More like a monumental idiot.  You make an ass out of yourself every time you open up the 9/11 can of worms and your pathetic attempts to convince getbiggers only shows your desperation.

We let it happen?  Please..

Six weeks before 911, 12 or more of our allies notified us of the attack date, targets, and 5 of the attacker names.

Inexplicably, the FBI case in Hollywood FL against atta was instantly closed and all investigation stopped.

israel, german, cia, fbi - they ALL warned bush.  FBI director arrived in middle of night to crawford with red lights blaring.  Rememebr  "Bin laden determined to attack in US" file?  Well, the blacked out info in it contains details on the attack.  

Why didn't bush act to stop it?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Yep.  And those people are bear Stearns KNEW they were about to go insolvent. So they cleaned out their treasury by giving themselves record bonuses, right before it was time to pay the bills. 

THEN they went to the FED with a tin cup and asked for help, and said "If you let us go under, other banks will fail and the market will take a hit".  The Fed, and BUSH, caved.

They kept their bonuses.

Assuming the facts are as you say I have to disagree.. but you've been known to harbor "insane" and "absurd" views so I can't really take your word for it.

[240 is Back]

This is the first time we've fought a war like this and considering how it's aspects could drastically change almost overnight it becomes a very cloudy day when you try to attach conditions.

They were not conditions.

They were measurements.  Numbers.  SOME form of accountability where the $3billion a week kept disappearing.

You see, Brix, we were quietly feeding guns and money to sunni and shiite insurgent groups to kill EACH OTHER so we didn't have to.  Problem is, they decided to stop shooting at each other and start shooting at us.  You didn't really think they got 6 years worth of guns and bombs replenished in a country where we own the roads and air, did you

That's where all the $ was going, and the dem congress was tired of seeing our govt fund the killing of our soldiers.  bush didn't like that, and vetoed it.

[240 is Back]

Assuming the facts are as you say I have to disagree.. but you've been known to harbor "insane" and "absurd" views so I can't really take your word for it.

Well, go look up the Bears Sterns bailt of mid-march.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Six weeks before 911, 12 or more of our allies notified us of the attack date, targets, and 5 of the attacker names.

Inexplicably, the FBI case in Hollywood FL against atta was instantly closed and all investigation stopped.

israel, german, cia, fbi - they ALL warned bush.  FBI director arrived in middle of night to crawford with red lights blaring.  Rememebr  "Bin laden determined to attack in US" file?  Well, the blacked out info in it contains details on the attack. 

Why didn't bush act to stop it?

Again.. I find it amazing that these things haven't made headline news everyday for the last 7 years.  That would mean there might be some truth there but I guess you're the only one that "sees the light" right?

Allow me to repeat.. "but you've been known to harbor "insane" and "absurd" views so I can't really take your word for it."
 

[grab an umbrella]

240, again, our government didn't spend any money, its an insurance policy, chase bought them at 2 dollars a share, and if it fails then chase is backed up to 30 billion, read up next time.

[Red Hook]

Both McCain and Obama have qualities that I like. It is a shame that we have to tear one down to build the other one up.

also what troubles me is that both of them have to literally be approved by jews to win. Why should their views on Israel make a difference in a US election?

They both have to try and top each other on their level of financial and military support for Israel.

We give more money to israel that we spend on the poor here.  How much aid do we give to Israel each year?

[Brixtonbulldog]

They were not conditions.

They were measurements.  Numbers.  SOME form of accountability where the $3billion a week kept disappearing.

You see, Brix, we were quietly feeding guns and money to sunni and shiite insurgent groups to kill EACH OTHER so we didn't have to.  Problem is, they decided to stop shooting at each other and start shooting at us.  You didn't really think they got 6 years worth of guns and bombs replenished in a country where we own the roads and air, did you

That's where all the $ was going, and the dem congress was tired of seeing our govt fund the killing of our soldiers.  bush didn't like that, and vetoed it.

Gov't is wasteful.. can't argue there.

But your conspiracies have really gone off man.

[240 is Back]

Again.. I find it amazing that these things haven't made headline news everyday for the last 7 years.  That would mean there might be some truth there but I guess you're the only one that "sees the light" right?

Do you want to talk about the relationship between NBC and parent company GE?

NBC reports the news and GE sells hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons to the USA every year.

Would you shoot your $600B Annual cash cow in the head because it was the "right thing to do"?

[grab an umbrella]

240, your not addressing an issue where your wrong here, whats up?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Well, go look up the Bears Sterns bailt of mid-march.

No time buddy.. I have a Skull and Bones meeting in an hour and then the white house is paying for my trip to Bora Bora tomorrow morning for that "favor" I did back in 05.  Gotta pack.

[240 is Back]

Gov't is wasteful.. can't argue there.

But your conspiracies have really gone off man.

look up the GAO govt accountability office.  
THEY gave us this info.  I sure didn't.

yes, we've been paying and arming the insurgents.  Is this news to you?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Do you want to talk about the relationship between NBC and parent company GE?

NBC reports the news and GE sells hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons to the USA every year.

Would you shoot your $600B Annual cash cow in the head because it was the "right thing to do"?

hahah... I guess you "really got me there" !!!!

We'll continue this later I'm sure.

[240 is Back]

240, your not addressing an issue where your wrong here, whats up?

whic issue?  i'm debating in 5 places at once.  The "bailing them out at 2 cents?"

it's stil $2 billion in taxpayer dollars to bail out a private company.  Even if $2bil is a really good deal.

[grab an umbrella]

Our government didn't pay to bail them out, our government gave Chase basically an insurance policy.  Think of it like what the fdic does.

[CQ]

Both McCain and Obama have qualities that I like. It is a shame that we have to tear one down to build the other one up.

also what troubles me is that both of them have to literally be approved by jews to win. Why should their views on Israel make a difference in a US election?

They both have to try and top each other on their level of financial and military support for Israel.

We give more money to israel that we spend on the poor here.  How much aid do we give to Israel each year?

Israel is the #1 recipient of US foreign aid, has been so for about 60 decades years. Most reports say in the region of 3 billion+ annually. Sometimes higher, 1997 was about 5.5 billion they claim. Plus the billions extra in interest payments the US pays on the initial sum given, as much of the aid given over the last 60 years was borrowed funds. Some studies have figures as high as an overall total of 50 billion dollars in interest payments alone for borrowing the money to give to Israel. Obviously I am only repeating what I read, and am not like the US treasurer or anything

[grab an umbrella]

60 decades eh redhook?  So I guess the native americans were helping israel too, interesting....

[CQ]

60 decades eh redhook?  So I guess the native americans were helping israel too, interesting....

Good pickup! I will edit! thanks!

Self owning yet again

[Neurotoxin]

p0wn3d

Barack Obama 48%
            
John McCain 43%

how could mcbush be so high in the polls ? 



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