Transformation and bible MUTATION

[chess315]

i say you current cycle is perfect around 500-600 total of test or deca tell you build decent strength it is very hard to mutate at 6'4. I wouldnt go past 600mg tell you get near a 300 bench 450-500 deadlift or other comparable lifts if those to arent your cup of tea.  just dont start mega dosing tell you have some gains it is very hard to look like you lift weights at that height. You can still look very good gh dont really matter you can use that now if you wanted but slin no no no. You just dont want to build a tolerance to adrogens tell you have some muscle at least and honestly you look decent (public pool wise)now like a guy that goes to the gym and fools around here and there.

[D.O.U.P]

Ok, how about instead of all the ZOMG DONT DO ALL THAT ROFL UR GONNA BURN OUT, you give me constructive criticism on the cycle and what to change. I have several very experianced members telling me to drop the slin, ok I'll leave it out. What else should I change? Tren dosage? Sus dosage? Deca dosage? GH dosage? Remove some? Add something else in? I am open to suggestions, but one thing I will make clear is I'm going to jump on with the end goal of competeing in my 25th year. And I am going to be running gh, those 2 are the only things I will not change, I am open to all other criticism.

PAY ATTENTION.

SLIN IS A VERY, VERY, VERY BAD IDEA. DO NOT DO IT.

of course you have already been told this and CHOSE to ignore.

TRYING TO HELP YA FELLA.

OH AND DO NOT DO TREN SINCE YA SEEM A BIT UNSTABLE.

[D.O.U.P]

how about
sus - 500mg/wk
tren - 300mg/wk
5iu gh ed
?

how about-

Lift weights. 3 to 4 times a week. GO HARD.

Eat a decent diet, cheat meals three times a week.High protein, moderate carbs, high fats.

THEN -  ONE OR TWO SUSTAS A WEEK.

[nspaletta]

I do lift weights and I do eat, but trying to fill out a 192cm frame naturally is a waste of time if I can get there in a fraction of the time. I lost just over ONE HUNDRED POUNDS before I ever even thought of AAS. Then going through training, eating shit tasteless meals, grinding away TO GET NOWHERE naturally whilst people half a foot shorter then me actually looked good putting on less weight then me is a bit of a downer. Honestly I don't expect to look like anything untill I'm ATLEAST 115kgs at sub 10%.

To each his own bro I'm not saying you are wrong or right...your decision is yours. But I will say you were thinking of using way too much shit way too early!!! If you are gonna use slin then you are, but I say start off with a small dose (2-4iu) just to help absorb food. I would say use gh, low dose test, and an oral maybe to start with. If you are gonna use then start small and build with your dose. Start at 250/week of test for a while until you plateau, then up if you want. Best of luck bro

[makaveli25]

Bro use test by itslef and maybe some deca for a year or two. Get on a good weight lifting program concentrating on the core lifts. I did the bigger faster stronger program for four years before I started anything. I made more gains naturally doing that. You have a lot of work to do. Don't get to down on yourself everyone needs to start somewhere. Please stay away from all of the exotic stuff for awhile. I still use the basics and I've been at for 6 years.

[vamped]

will post pics in 4 weeks of tren 350mgs/wk sus 500/wk and hopefully gh @ 5iu ed

AND NO I AM NOT DOING SLIN I HAVE DROPPED IT...

Only wanted to include it because as i said i can get 5000iu of it for $36... But realise the risk vs reward right now is highly skewed. Yes I will take most advice here and gradually ramp up doses as I stop gaining. No I'm not planning coming off, ultimate goal is to compete at 25 at a respectable weight, around 110-115 kgs at 5%.

[RRKore]

Vamped, fuck all these timid haters.  Go for it.  Just monitor your health, OK?  I don't think I'd do tren just yet if I were you.  At your height and weight, I think you need to add some mass and 40 pounds of bloofy muscle will look good on a guy your height so I'd do a test/deca cycle (at least 500mg of each) with 4 weeks of anadrol here and 4 weeks of d-bol there.  Use some kind of AI, also.  The tren you can keep in your back pocket for when you want to mutate even further.

Lastly, this is very important, make sure your training knowledge is commensurate with the amount of drugs you're doing.  Lots of fools have wasted money on AAS cycles because they don't know how to train (or how to eat).   Get serious and figure out what exercises work for you.

Good luck.

[bber]

you will look better in the long run. go read gh15's post today about evan centaponi, how he is emphasizing the fact that evan actually built a foundation before juicing. you can get up to the level your at now by training naturally for a couple years. hen when you jump on cycle youll blast ppast it, and if you come off you wont shrink down to nothing.

where can I find this post about evan sir?

[Jovo]

just drop the slin for now and go ahead bro, see where AAS take you alone and maybe add in gh when you can afford it.

as long as you know how to train and eat alot, youll grow on anabolics

[FAST LANE]

Bro, I suggest you listen to the fellas in here!! They're pretty smart and know their shit!!! Anyways, good luck on the mutation!

[Overload]

While I agree 110% that this guy needs some foundation, it also looks like he's going to shoot AAS no matter what we say.  In this case I think it's fair to give the guy some tips.  I'd rather have the guy doing it right than looking at other threads on here and starting with 2g of Deca like our resident beast Stavios or shooting 1g of Tren like the other swole brothers on here.

Plus, the guy posted pics, so he has some balls and that at least warrents a proper response IMO.

[FAST LANE]

While I agree 110% that this guy needs some foundation, it also looks like he's going to shoot AAS no matter what we say.  In this case I think it's fair to give the guy some tips.  I'd rather have the guy doing it right than looking at other threads on here and starting with 2g of Deca like our resident beast Stavios or shooting 1g of Tren like the other swole brothers on here.

Plus, the guy posted pics, so he has some balls and that at least warrents a proper response IMO.

LOL THIS