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Job news bad for Obama
Chicago Tribune ^ | 11:50 a.m. CDT, May 5, 2012 | Ira Kantor
Posted on May 6, 2012 3:05:02 PM EDT by Red Steel

25 percent drop in the number of jobs added nationwide from March to April could spell trouble for President Barack Obama's re-election hopes as the economy now struggles to recover at a slower-than-expected pace, local experts said yesterday.

"Somebody has to figure out how to get us to the point where we're creating 300,000 jobs a month. Obama policy is never going to accomplish it," David Tuerck, executive director of the Beacon Hill Institute at Suffolk University, told the Herald. "We have to look at what he's doing and pretty much reverse it all."

The economy added just 115,000 jobs in April, compared to 154,000 jobs in March and an average of 252,000 jobs per month from December through February, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Though the country's unemployment rate dipped to a three-year low of 8.1 percent last month, the number does not include discouraged people who have stopped searching for work.

A total of 12.5 million people nationwide were unemployed last month. Average hourly earnings rose a penny to $23.38.

Appearing on "Fox and Friends" yesterday, presidential contender Mitt Romney said April's collective added job number was 77 percent lower than his own expectations for economic growth.

"We should be seeing numbers in the 500,000 jobs created per month. This is way, way, way off from what should happen in a normal recovery," Romney said. "Clearly the American people are wondering why this recovery isn't happening faster, why it's taking years and years for the recovery to occur and we seem to be slowing down, not speeding up."

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Unemployment Explained: Obama's Disability Scammers
Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2012 | John Ransom
Posted on May 7, 2012 4:12:58 AM EDT by Kaslin

I have to credit our own Mike Shedlock for writing about how Obama’s been able to drive down the topline unemployment number even though unemployment remains as a big problem today as it has ever been.

I’m often reluctant to piggy back on a contributor’s work, but when something is really newsworthy, I think it’s justified.

Yesterday Mish pointed out that:

In the last year, the civilian population rose by 3,638,000. Yet the labor force only rose by 945,000. Those not in the labor force rose by 2,693,000.

In the last month, actual employment fell by 169,000, but the unemployment rate dropped by .1%.

That is an amazing "achievement" to say the least.

How did Obama do this magic trick of moving unemployment from a high of 10 percent to 8.1 percent without adding, you know, jobs?

Well according to Shedlock, economists at JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Morgan Stanley say that those on Social Security Disability (SSDI) checks have risen by about 2.2 million.

People who qualify for SSDI are automatically excluded from the workforce, meaning that you can actually have an economy losing jobs while technically the unemployment rate will go down as more people received disability benefits and are subtracted from the workforce.

Social Security Disability is a picture perfect program scam for the Obama administration. It allows Obama to say that unemployment is going down, while adding to the rolls of people who are dependent on some sort of Democrat-Party enabled government assistance.  

Prior to these revelations, I had thought that the country’s workforce was shrinking because persistent joblessness was causing people to stop looking for work. In other words, I though it was just another example of Obama’s economic incompetence.

I’m not ruling out incompetence completely, but when the administration has a vested interest in allowing fraud to happen by turning a blind eye, they act like caravan stuck in a sand storm, especially if it adds more potential voters to the dole.        

And what’s worse, the damage done to the economy by this type of fraud - and to the legitimately disabled who need the benefits- will take generation to fix. 

Because, while joblessness can be reversed with some sensible economic policies, adding to the disability rolls creates permanent damage to the economy from which the country will not recover in generations.       Writes Bloomberg.com

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Why are all the obamadrones so quiet?


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Obama made student loans easier - and college enrollment has soared in the last 2 years.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tok=ieKwjIL2aSwX7kXLcSlJXA&cp=11&gs_id=16&xhr=t&q=college+attendance+statistics&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=900&wrapid=tljp1336402246784018&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ROGnT9nAG4io8QSNoMnPAw


Fewer people working because they're in college full time. 

In 4 years, our nation is smarter as a whole and better equipped to take on the other countries of the world. 

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Obama made student loans easier - and college enrollment has soared in the last 2 years.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tok=ieKwjIL2aSwX7kXLcSlJXA&cp=11&gs_id=16&xhr=t&q=college+attendance+statistics&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=900&wrapid=tljp1336402246784018&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ROGnT9nAG4io8QSNoMnPAw


Fewer people working because they're in college full time. 

In 4 years, our nation is smarter as a whole and better equipped to take on the other countries of the world. 


LOL.   

Obama made it easier?   WTF are you talking about?   All obama is doing is a repeat of subprime loand for housing and doing subprime for school loans. 

and you said you have an MBA?  And what value do idiots w minority studies degrees and LGBT awareness w 100k in debt add to anything? 

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And what value do idiots w minority studies degrees and LGBT awareness w 100k in debt add to anything? 

If you own stock in the insitutions doing the lending, you love kids that borrow 100k for a worthless degree ;)
ANd while those majors suck, they'll still have more skills and tools and be stronger to compete on a world stage than if they went to work at super walmart at age 18.  You still have to take core classwork in match, science, english, history, and others, before you get to that last 2 years of fluff :)

Obama made it easier?   WTF are you talking about?   All obama is doing is a repeat of subprime loand for housing and doing subprime for school loans. 

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/student-loan-ranger/2011/11/09/learn-what-obamas-student-loan-plan-means-for-you

I dont think you can argue that these measures have made it easier and more afforable for kids to go to college.

You CAN argue it.  But not logically :)



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If you own stock in the insitutions doing the lending, you love kids that borrow 100k for a worthless degree ;)
ANd while those majors suck, they'll still have more skills and tools and be stronger to compete on a world stage than if they went to work at super walmart at age 18.  You still have to take core classwork in match, science, english, history, and others, before you get to that last 2 years of fluff :)

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/student-loan-ranger/2011/11/09/learn-what-obamas-student-loan-plan-means-for-you

I dont think you can argue that these measures have made it easier and more afforable for kids to go to college.

You CAN argue it.  But not logically :)





More affordable means lower prices -  not making it easier to rack up more debt.

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More affordable means lower prices -  not making it easier to rack up more debt.

Many kids can't go to school because they don't have the money.  It's not like when you and i went to school.  Loans don't even cover it these days.  It's SICK how much school costs.

Obama made loans easier for kids.  That's a good thing.   He did a lotta shitty things - but this is a good thing.

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Many kids can't go to school because they don't have the money.  It's not like when you and i went to school.  Loans don't even cover it these days.  It's SICK how much school costs.

Obama made loans easier for kids.  That's a good thing.   He did a lotta shitty things - but this is a good thing.

False - the govt loans are the CAUSE of the school inflation. 

Havent we been over this many times by now? 

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May 7, 2012
President Obama Is Running Out of Jobs Excuses
By Louis Woodhill



Friday's Employment Report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) was so bad that the Obama administration didn't even bother to tout the reported 0.1 percentage point decline in the "headline" (U-3) unemployment rate. They knew that to do so would just make them look completely out of touch.
 
How bad was it? The number of people with jobs (BLS Household Survey) declined for the second month in a row, falling by 169,000 in April after easing by 31,000 in March. This means that there were 200,000 fewer Americans with jobs in April than there were in February.
 
The exodus of discouraged Americans from the workforce, which is the big ongoing story of Obama's so-called economic recovery, continued in earnest during April. Labor force participation, which is the percentage of working-age adults who either have jobs or are looking for work, fell to 63.6%, which is the lowest level since December 1981.


 


A total of 342,000 American's gave up looking for jobs in April. Because our working-age population increased by 180,000 during the month, the ranks of discouraged workers increased by at least 463,000 during April. These numbers spell "recession", not "recovery".
 
April's 0.1 percentage-point decline in the unemployment rate, as well as the reported 8.1% unemployment rate itself, were pure illusion. Adjusted to the labor force participation rate when Bush 43 left office (65.8%), our unemployment rate actually increased by 0.2 percentage points in April, from 11.0% to 11.2%. Adjusted to the labor force participation rate when we last had full employment (67.3%, the level of April 2000), our unemployment rate increased from 13.0% in March to 13.2% in April.
 
April 2012 marks 12 years since we last had full employment. Since then, our working age population has increased by 30.8 million, but (on the margin) only 31% of these people have entered the labor force, and less than half of those that did have found a job. America ended April 15.2 million jobs short of full employment, 0.3 million more than just one month before.
 
April marked the 34th month of President Obama's so-called "economic recovery". During these 34 months, total employment increased by only 1.3%. When compared with the comparable point during our recovery from the 1981-1982 recession, this is pathetic. By 34 months into the Reagan recovery, total employment had increased by 8.6%. If the current economic recovery had been as good, there would be 10.2 million additional Americans working today.
 
The markets treated Friday's BLS report as a nasty surprise. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by more than 168 points. While the report was obviously a shock, it shouldn't have been. The employment numbers were consistent with the GDP report that came out on April 27.
 
During the first 10 calendar quarters of Obama's economic recovery, real GDP (RGDP) grew at an annual rate of 2.45%, while total employment grew at a 0.22% annual rate. This suggests that at the 2.2% RGDP growth rate reported for 1Q2012 by the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), we should expect total employment to be stagnant. In this light, the 200,000 decline in total jobs over the past two months appears to represent a partial correction of the reported 428,000 job gain in February. If economic growth does not accelerate, we can expect total employment to fall further.
 
Errors in economic policy show up first and fastest in the total employment numbers. For example, it took the National Bureau of Economic Research until December 1, 2008 to conclude that the U.S. had entered a recession in January 2008. However, total employment peaked in November 2007, and, by January 2008, it was clear that the trend was downward.
 
Obamunism is failing, and its ongoing failure is reflected in the employment numbers. Obama's Keynesian mental model of how the economy works is simply wrong, so his remedies, which are based upon Keynesianism, aren't working.
 
Keynesians believe that economic growth is driven by spending, and that government borrowing and spending will increase total spending, and thereby boost RGDP. It isn't, and it won't, so it doesn't. Obama's signature remedy for our economic woes, "stimulus", was an $831 billion flop.
 
Keynesianism is a superstition, and no amount of real-world evidence can penetrate a mind in the grip of a superstition. When Obama's massive 2009 stimulus program had the same impact (i.e., none) as Bush 43's smaller programs in 2001 and 2008, Keynesians simply declared that, "It just wasn't big enough". Pop quiz: if your plan is to raise the water level in a pond by drawing out a bucket of water and pouring it back in again, how big a bucket would be "big enough"?
 
The reality is that investment drives economic growth. It is investment that creates productive capacity, and nothing can be purchased unless it is first produced. During the first 11 calendar quarters of the Reagan economic recovery, real nonresidential investment increased at a 9.4% annual rate, RGDP expanded at a 6.1% annual rate, and total employment grew at a 3.1% annual rate. The comparable numbers for Obama's (non) recovery are 6.0%, 2.4%, and 0.5%.
 
All of the major elements of Reaganomics, a strong dollar, marginal tax rate cuts, and reduced regulation, favor capital investment. Obamunism is the exact opposite of Reaganomics in these three areas, and it therefore discourages investment. When you discourage investment, you discourage employment. The result is the most discouraging jobs picture since the Great Depression.
 
But wait! There's more!
 
Right now, the economy is heading toward a "fiscal cliff", with massive tax increases scheduled for January 1, 2013. Could this be impacting capital investment now, and thereby RGDP and jobs?
 
Well, let's see. You climb in the back seat of Thelma and Louise's 1966 Thunderbird. Thelma floors it, and she begins racing for the cliff. How likely are you to say, "Hey, let's invest in a new carburetor"?
 
Uncertainty and fear about 2013 are impacting investment decisions. After growing by 15.7% during 3Q2011, nonresidential business investment slowed to a 5.2% growth rate in 4Q2011 and then fell at a 2.1% rate last quarter.
 
Capital investments not made are beginning to show up as jobs not created. Obama will have to put his excuse machine into high gear to deal with the jobs numbers that we can expect to see between now and the election.
 
 
 




Louis Woodhill (louis@woodhill.com), an engineer and software entrepreneur, is on the Leadership Council of the Club for Growth.

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Oct 2009 - Highest unemployment rate of recession, at over 10%; 58.5% of Americans had a job.
 
Apr 2012 - Unemployment down to 8.1%; 58.4% of Americans have a job.
 
The percent of Americans employed has actually gone DOWN. Conclude what you will.

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324,000 Women Dropped Out of Labor Force in Last Two Months--As Number of Women Not in Labor Force Hits Historic High
By Terence P. Jeffrey
May 9, 2012
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Labor Secretary Hilda Solis and President Barack Obama (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

(CNSNews.com) - 324,000 women dropped out of the nation’s civilian labor force in March and April as the number of women not in the labor force hit an all-time historical high of 53,321,000, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The civilian labor force consists of all people in the United States 16 years or older who are not in the military, a prison, or another institution such as a nursing home or mental hospital and who either have a job or are unemployed but have actively sought work in the previous four weeks and are currently available to work.

The civilian labor force is a subset of what BLS calls the civilian noninstitutional population, which includes all people in the country 16 or older who are not in the military, a prison, or another institution such as a nursing home or mental hospital.

This year (in both January and April), only 57.6 percent of the women in the civilian noninstitutional population were in the labor force. That is the lowest rate of labor force participation by American women since April 1993, according to historical data maintained by BLS.

The rate of female participation in the civilian workforce peaked twelve years ago--in April 2000--when hit 60.3 percent.

In February, according to BLS’s seasonally adjusted data, 52,833,000 American women were not in the labor force. In March that climbed to 53,090,000—a one-month increase of 257,000. In April, it climbed again to the historical high of 53,321,000—a one-month increase of 231,000 from March and a two-month increase of 488,000 from February.

In February, there was an historical high of 72,706,000 women in the labor force. But in March, that dropped to 72,529,000—a decline of 177,000. And in April, it dropped to 72,382,000—a decline of another 147,000.

Thus, in March and April, according to the BLS data, a total of 324,000 American women dropped out of the civilian labor force.

The number of women added to those not in the labor force in March and April (488,000) exceeds the number of women who dropped out of the labor force during those two months (324,000) because women who newly turned 16, or left the military, or were released from prison or another institution during those two months and then did not seek a job were added to the ranks of those not in the labor force.

BLS says that for a one-month change in the number of women in the labor force to be statistically significant it has to be greater than about 260,000. For a three-month change to be statistically significant it has to be greater than 400,000. Thus, the two-month increase of 488,000 in the number of women not in the labor force is a statistically significant trend, but the two-month increase of 324,000 women who dropped out of the labor force is not. However, if at least 76,000 additional women drop out of the labor force in May the trend will become statistically significant.

Moreover, BLS says the decline of female participation in the workforce over the past year has been statistically significant—dropping from 58.3 percent in April 2011 to 57.6 percent this April.

For both males and females combined, the rate of participation in the labor force dropped to 63.6 percent in April—the lowest rate since December 1981.

Recently, however, women have been leaving the labor force in larger numbers than men.

From February to March, the number of men in the labor force actually increased by 14,000—rising from 82,165,000 to 82,179,000, according to BLS. From March to April, it dropped back down to 81,983,000—a one-month decline of 196,000.