grey top hgh

[Jizmo]

these middle eastern guys are fucking insane
follow kuwaitbodybuilding on instagram
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some guys there would do some damage on the olympia stage, no doubt

the guy on the left on ur pic, anwar seif or something is his name
he looks like a dog in the face but hes fu**ing huge as fu*k lol

[whitewidow]

Im not saying their are not some quality phsyiques but mazfit makes it out like we shouldn;t care or be so sketched out about our HGh quality. I can find his quote.  Bottom line top 5 at the Mr.O has Dennis SWolf as the only guy that is not a USA Bodybuilder

[whitewidow]

I just don't care for quotes like this--

mazfit
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Re: grey top hgh
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2015, 08:05:42 AM »
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also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh

Black to hyge works its real HGH and everyone decent BB in the uk with a good hook up is on them.

why use something that has no rep i dont get it.

that like someone using a new UGL that no ones heard about but this is worse because its HGH and alot fuking harder to source and alot more expensive
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We are careful for good reasons. You might fool some people into buying you are a Pro BB but I don't buy it.  If you can prove it I would apologize for denying you. alot of peole are questioning your credentials. I of course never claimed I was much of a top level bodybuilder! It's just way too big of a subjective sport for me! I don't want to kill anybodys dreams but don;t say your a pro unless you can back it up. If you claim your a pro of course people are going to be curious who you are. Bostin Lloyd is just a shitty amateur bodybuilder and you are comparing a UK pro to him. Of course a UK pro should have a tremendous edge on Bostin Lloyd.

I don;t hate any races I just don;t like these Gh15 type guys who claim Pro but never back it up with anything!

[goku]

Im not saying their are not some quality phsyiques but mazfit makes it out like we shouldn;t care or be so sketched out about our HGh quality. I can find his quote.  Bottom line top 5 at the Mr.O has Dennis SWolf as the only guy that is not a USA Bodybuilder

completely agree with you there.
gh is a minefield right now, has been since rips were shut down last year and well before that with ord.
grey tops seem the most consistent now and probably no surprise its the same main two suppliers of rips who are behind them.
but still, since competition is lowest it has been for years, have to wonder about the quality of any generic gh.
before there were thanks, novos, rips, old hyges etc a lot to choose from and it kept quality good for a generic.
now theres barely anything.
doesnt matter if it makes you hold water or if its diluted with god knows what as long as the gh serums and igf tests come back decent because theres not much else to choose from.

ive seen them black top hyges score all over the place.
every single supplier in the uk has them, walk into any gym and its easier to get than a protein shake.
personally would never spend a penny on them, especially with one recent serum coming back in single digits (codes checked out too)
right now its probably pharma or nothing. hopefully grey tops stay consistent, i'll be using them myself soon.

[mazfit]

dont have a meltdown...............


HYgenepharma blazck tops from the right place is legit hgh-

from the wrong place its crap.

know your source.

So what about the black tops that were scoring huge serum numbers......

yes exactly from the right source, fucking easy to get a real box n code and slip some fake hgh in easy as piss.

say it again for the last time the CBA to talk about this shit anymore.

black top hygenepharma from the correct source is 100% real hgh.

for every bunk test of black tops there 20 good ones.


im not talking about HGH anymore its a boring boring subject.

use what u trust thats it

[mazfit]

one of the greatest ever bodybuilders is from Britain, the current 212 mr O is also.
Big Ramy from a foreign shore and lives in Kuwait, Dennis Wolf lived in Germany while making waves in the IFBB and moved to vegas only a few years ago, Ronny Rockel i think never moved to the US permanently, Gunter the same, Nasser moved after he turned pro. Sammir Bannout, Mohammed Mustafa, Makkawy, Brian Buchanan, Clairmonte the list goes on and on!
so much for non-US bodybuilders not making much of an impact! no?

world's comps are filled with quality physiques - in Dennis James, Palumbo's and many others opinion many of them are better than some of current stateside ifbb pros





reason why US bodybuilders are so abundant is because of its much larger population compared to other nations! and not to mention ifbb politics. only one pro card a year handed out in the UK and thats to the overall winner, likewise the case in most countries so most stay amateur as they have a better chance at prize money. just a couple years ago the UK overall winner refused the ifbb pro card as he didn't have any backing from a sponsor.
the npc hand out pro cards like its going out of fashion and lot of them are sponsored or close to sponsorship deals.
its more about cash than quality of drugs.
Big Ramy lives in Kuwait, he definitely doesn't get his gear from the US.
nabba world competitors, Wolf until 2011, too many examples for you to choose from.

EXACTLY

[whitewidow]

dont have a meltdown...............


HYgenepharma blazck tops from the right place is legit hgh-

from the wrong place its crap.

know your source.

So what about the black tops that were scoring huge serum numbers......

yes exactly from the right source, fucking easy to get a real box n code and slip some fake hgh in easy as piss.

say it again for the last time the CBA to talk about this shit anymore.

black top hygenepharma from the correct source is 100% real hgh.

for every bunk test of black tops there 20 good ones.


im not talking about HGH anymore its a boring boring subject.

use what u trust thats it

Bro you said this

"also i sware you guys in the US are so paranoid about hgh"

We should be concerned about our HGH purchases, if we were not concerned everybody would just buy the cheapest blue top HGH we can find. sorry but when a 100IU kit of HGH gets down to 100$ it should be questioned. Everybody has to be careful when they buy HGH. It is such a huge market that guys counterfeit.

[mazfit]

true point taken.

its a case of know your source - and even then its onlyt as good as how much he trusts his supplier.

[whitewidow]

true point taken.

its a case of know your source - and even then its onlyt as good as how much he trusts his supplier.

True I knew a source who was immaculate but he ended up selling way over 100,000$ in bunk kigtropin and he didn't know it was bad,in the end nobody got their money back and some guy in china lives in a brand new house because of that scam.

[mazfit]

not good.

the only thing i have is my guy had his blood taken in london after the blacvktops he has

and his serum levels were through the roof, also a few more people taking it had serum levels taken and posted on the UK forums, tmuscle, uk muscle ect.

however ive heard of ADH being added to give lethargy, bloatedness ect.

so your probably correct in the mionefield analagy

[tatoo]

only thing to report is a red painful injection site. 10iu shot.

[goku]

not good.

the only thing i have is my guy had his blood taken in london after the blacvktops he has

and his serum levels were through the roof, also a few more people taking it had serum levels taken and posted on the UK forums, tmuscle, uk muscle ect.

however ive heard of ADH being added to give lethargy, bloatedness ect.

so your probably correct in the mionefield analagy

no serums of hyges on tmuscle.
only serums on uk-muscle were for the old yellow and green top hyges .cn brand from 2 or 3 years ago, unless i missed them as im not an active member there, i am on tmuscle and none there.
had a good look around ukm to be fair and couldn't find anything on black tops.

only good serums ive seen were a couple on eroids and i wouldn't trust any of those fuckers if you paid me.

only way to be certain is to get a gh serum yourself and after a month get an igf-1 test.
even then, batches might differ in consistency.
grey tops have been tested by many more people, vets on other boards who have no affiliation seemingly to anyone.
a few have been testing all different brands and seeing which is most consistent.
i haven't seen a grey top serum come back lower than mid 20's.
still cant be certain though but at least i know some of those vets, eroids is full of fucking newbies who are still wet behind the ears.

personally, if i had to choose a generic it would be one that has been tested almost every month and almost every batch by members who have been around for a while and some who have been testing generics for years.
right now thats grey tops. ive never seen a bad word written about HK
every generic he's had has been tested to be decent at the least. id be confident getting a generic from him and nobody else.

[goku]

only pharma i can afford are sero's but only at 5ius max.
at that dose they're on par with a good generic at 10ius which are cheaper.
bollocks to that, trying to get hold of some well priced nordi's off someone i know but too many fakes about. gh serums are too fucking expensive in the uk, more than the gh itself!

[lilhawk1]

only pharma i can afford are sero's but only at 5ius max.
at that dose they're on par with a good generic at 10ius which are cheaper.
bollocks to that, trying to get hold of some well priced nordi's off someone i know but too many fakes about. gh serums are too fucking expensive in the uk, more than the gh itself!

Only at 5 iu's of Seros?  You should be getting fantastic results from that.  You don't need anymore than that actually.  I can't stay awake at that dose.  Want to sleep all day.

[goku]

Only at 5 iu's of Seros?  You should be getting fantastic results from that.  You don't need anymore than that actually.  I can't stay awake at that dose.  Want to sleep all day.

ive ran 4ius at most so far and tbh i found the old rips at 8-10ius to be better and stronger (obviously double the dose!) but it was a fair bit cheaper too which is the main reason id go that route.
found them more effective at a cheaper cost even though sero's gave a better look. but that better look doesn't justify the extra cost for me, the higher igf-1 levels from the higher dosed rips made them worth it.
if these greys are being compared to rips then i would rather run 10ius of these than 5ius sero's because they'd be on par at least in effectiveness while saving money.
less water and sides with the sero's but as far as pharm grade goes its one of the worst imho
i used nordi's last year at 4ius and while growth/fat loss was similar the look it gave was clearly different - dryer and fuller oddly.
both genuine at the time from a clinic warehouse. gutted ive lost that link, his depot moved location.

if i had a choice between nordi's and geno's or rips/greys then it would definitely be the pharm grade. less gh and less igf-1 but for the difference in look i think its worth the extra cost. not so for sero's though imo, better look than the generic but not as much as norditropin or genotropin.

(i think theres a difference in manufacturing them brands too, the guy i used to get them off would deliver them to patients and sero's were the only gh he was able to deliver unrefrigerated. norditropin, genotropin and humatrope all had to be refrigerated during transit and by patients when received.)
sero's could be kept out, i think omnitrope too if i remember right. something about them having different manufacturing methods and properties.
also 4-5ius for someone in their mid-20ius probably isn't worth the extra expense either.

[goku]

Only at 5 iu's of Seros?  You should be getting fantastic results from that.  You don't need anymore than that actually.  I can't stay awake at that dose.  Want to sleep all day.

having said all that, who knows when the chinamen will drop the ball and start sending out underdosed crap.
no doubt about the purity, nowhere near as good as pharma but if its properly dosed (gh serum will prove) and if its being accepted by the body (igf-1 test will prove, converting gh to igf-1) then at least we're getting the growth/fat loss benefits even if the look while on em isn't the best.
no such issue with pharma as you said, but having igf-1 levels 200 odd points higher is too good to say no to.

[mazfit]

So would u not run the black tops

I trust my guy - but that doesn't mean they are underdosed or bunk

I can also get pharma and green tops

But the pharma is fukin expensive even with my discounts

And I asked him il pay for the pharma if there better

He said id be better buying the black tops

But then again maybe coz he makes a higher margin on blacks

I've been running peptides but tbh I noticed more leanness ect on the blacks

I also noticed insane lethargy and tight hands on the blacks

But again could be other shit the Chinese put in it to make that happen


I guess I defend the blacks so much coz I was putting that in my body
And obviously when u put money towords something and are injecting it in you
U want it to be good.


What's ur thought there underdosed or not GH atall
They give the side effects but that means nothing

 Sure there's a serum report on muscle talk mate

[mazfit]

Also there are black going round the UK

That aren't hygene pharma

They don't even come from the same factory

[goku]

mate best thing any of us can do is get a serum test ourselves. im doing the same actually, i used to have the perfect fucking link last year - fella worked as a delivery driver for a medical transit company. used to deliver all sorts of meds to clinics, private patients, nursing homes etc
lucky bastard had a fridge fitted van with prescription norditropin, humatrope and omnitrope.
every week he would go to the depot and swipe a fair few of them!
i used to get 30ius nordi carts for 70 off him. fucking company moved depot to Stoke though! got made redundant.

but you're right, genunie pharma is available..just have to know one of those depot workers. i know a supplier who claims he has legit nordi's for under a ton but to make sure im getting a test:

https://www.medichecks.com/find-a-test/test/Growth-Hormone_GH/

https://www.medichecks.com/find-a-test/test/IGF1_SOMA/

^these are home tests, they send you the pack and just send off a spot of blood, get results in a week. pricey though but can get a gh serum and an igf-1 test for under 200

http://bloodtestslondon.com/epages/55f08637-cd18-4fe4-b467-5a1f8b0d05d9.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=519781

^this one's good if you're in london, cheap but have to go to the clinic for the test. i think they got a bogof offer on tests over 60 so can get both gh and igf for just over 70.

its worth the money long term tbh mate, at least you know that batch is on point and can order a few off them.

i dont trust any hyge now personally. HK is the man when it comes chinese gh, the main hyge factory closed down. ton of hyges have surfaced since...i think two types of black tops like you said.
if he isn't willing to put his name to any of them then its for a reason. he did say the proper hygene stopped producing a long time ago. anything under that name is counterfeit, using that name for their benefit.

the only gh he's offering are grey tops. ton of serums on them and igf-1 tests too, all good but lately people complaining of red welts. so who knows?
good lad ive known on the boards for a while is chuffed with them so i might resort to these if i have to.

[ARock14]

Started thegreytop for the first time this week ,   Literally started 5ius Ed this Monday . and yes it's coming for a great trusted source . Keep you guys in the loop .

[lilhawk1]

So would u not run the black tops

I trust my guy - but that doesn't mean they are underdosed or bunk

I can also get pharma and green tops

But the pharma is fukin expensive even with my discounts

And I asked him il pay for the pharma if there better

He said id be better buying the black tops

But then again maybe coz he makes a higher margin on blacks

I've been running peptides but tbh I noticed more leanness ect on the blacks

I also noticed insane lethargy and tight hands on the blacks

But again could be other shit the Chinese put in it to make that happen


I guess I defend the blacks so much coz I was putting that in my body
And obviously when u put money towords something and are injecting it in you
U want it to be good.


What's ur thought there underdosed or not GH atall
They give the side effects but that means nothing

 Sure there's a serum report on muscle talk mate

Have you used pharma?  Your friend says the blacks are better because he makes money on them. 
Get a few kits of Humatrope or Serostim, no generic comes close.  You can use about 1/4 the dose, and the results are superior with pharma.  Best thing, it's pure and what's on the label is what's in the vial/pen.  No bullshit fillers, impurities or water retention.  You know exactly what you're putting in your body.