Televangelists

[dr.chimps]

Yeah, I was surprised at your tone today, but I laughed and blew it off.  I have nothing against you man.  I do respect you and all is cool.

But still, we need to make one thing clear.  I'm not telling anyone how to do anything.  Everyone can live their lives however they want.

Further, I didn't start this thread.  I responded to other existing comments and then the theist pile on started and I began answering questions people asked of me.

Many folks don't like it when their religious questions are answered....sorry.  

Like I noted, I actually blew off your comment that ended with "Know your dogma, Christian."  I was suprised, but I aughed at it and didn't bother.  You pushed and criticized my non response so I gave you one and then you're upset because I responded......it's like nailing jello to a wall.

I'm a changed man today.  I've tried to continue interacting with others, but to be honest I'm virtually ignored on GB today unless I'm discussing religion.  Still, I don't discuss religion for attention.....I don't post much outside of that because it's fairly pointless.

If I post something that's funny or "off color" I continually get the "not very Christian of you"....."typical Christian hypocrite"......"phony Christian a**hole" stuff.....every single time.  

And you bet I spread the gospel of Christ....that's the point....that's what believers are commissioned to do.  We're also called to defend our faith.  

I've repeatedly encourage others to keep religious threads to the religion board, but thread creators desire traction and that's easy on the G&O.  So I discuss on the G&O where everyone wants to talk and theist "pile ons" can occur.

Ach, your a good soul. I wish the same could said of me.

[Man of Steel]

Ach, your a good soul. I wish the same could said of me.

That fact that you've followed with what you have attests to the fact that you do have a good soul. 

This is why I persist on here.  And I get PMs all the time of others asking me why I continue to keep doing what I do LOL.

I love the Lord and love all of y'all with a Christian love that desires for each of you to experience God like I have.

I've spent many years on this board and I do care for the members.....well....most of them LOL! 

[SF1900]

Yeah, I was surprised at your tone today, but I laughed and blew it off.  I have nothing against you man.  I do respect you and all is cool.

But still, we need to make one thing clear.  I'm not telling anyone how to do anything.  Everyone can live their lives however they want.

Further, I didn't start this thread.  I responded to other existing comments and then the theist pile on started and I began answering questions people asked of me.

Many folks don't like it when their religious questions are answered....sorry.  

Like I noted, I actually blew off your comment that ended with "Know your dogma, Christian."  I was suprised, but I aughed at it and didn't bother.  You pushed and criticized my non response so I gave you one and then you're upset because I responded......it's like nailing jello to a wall.

I'm a changed man today.  I've tried to continue interacting with others, but to be honest I'm virtually ignored on GB today unless I'm discussing religion.  Still, I don't discuss religion for attention.....I don't post much outside of that because it's fairly pointless.

If I post something that's funny or "off color" I continually get the "not very Christian of you"....."typical Christian hypocrite"......"phony Christian a**hole" stuff.....every single time.  

And you bet I spread the gospel of Christ....that's the point....that's what believers are commissioned to do.  We're also called to defend our faith.  

I've repeatedly encourage others to keep religious threads to the religion board, but thread creators desire traction and that's easy on the G&O.  So I discuss on the G&O where everyone wants to talk and theist "pile ons" can occur.

I genuinely try to be respectful, but discussing God flat pisses some people off.....can't be helped.   I just try to be civil and understanding.

Can you blame us? No.

You're constantly preaching to us how to live our life and what we should believe in. Thus, when you act out of character, youre going to get called on your bullshit. If you want to make jokes and have fun here, that is fine, but then end the preaching. You can't have both. Sorry, you just can't. Its going to be preach to us and try to live a perfectly moral life (although thats impossible) without making offhanded jokes that JC would disprove of, or have fun here and quit spreading the word of God.

[Man of Steel]

Can you blame us? No.

You're constantly preaching to us how to live our life and what we should believe in. Thus, when you act out of character, youre going to get called on your bullshit. If you want to make jokes and have fun here, that is fine, but then end the preaching. You can't have both. Sorry, you just can't. Its going to be preach to us and try to live a perfectly moral life (although thats impossible) without making offhanded jokes that JC would disprove of, or have fun here and quit spreading the word of God.

LOL, I literally tell no one how to live their life.  That's just how some internalize my words.....scripture convicts my friend.

99% of what I do is defend my faith.  Within that I work in the gospel message.

Here's the thing, dr. chimps wasn't accussing me of saying something inappropriate.  You, on the other hand, review my posts hoping to find something.

I used the term "off color" as an example, but I quoted it because I already knew you (in particular) would latch onto those words....and you did.   You repeatedly attempt to take an example of something (that I actually don't do) and force an absolute onto me.   I know and expect the ploy before it happens.

"See, your off color humor is hypocritical....so stop preaching."  I expect it and see right through it.  Bu further, I don't do it (here marks the beginning of the frantic search for anything in my post history to use as ammunition....good luck with that).

But you're right I can't have it both ways so I can't engage in whimsy, cursing, foul talk and all that.....I choose to represent Christ.

[TuHolmes]

The greater context defines the selected passage and makes the definitive statement.   Without the context it's up to wild interpretation.

The Bible that you read is nothing but interpretation.

What did I read the other day?

"The King James version of the New Testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England. There were (and still are) no original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts, with no two alike. The King James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead, they edited previous translations to create a version their king and Parliament would approve.

So, 21st Century Christians believe the "Word of God" is a book edited in the 17th Century from 16th Century translations of a 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century."



To me, that leaves a lot of room for error and disbelief.

[dr.chimps]

The Bible that you read is nothing but interpretation.

What did I read the other day?

"The King James version of the New Testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England. There were (and still are) no original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts, with no two alike. The King James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead, they edited previous translations to create a version their king and Parliament would approve.

So, 21st Century Christians believe the "Word of God" is a book edited in the 17th Century from 16th Century translations of a 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century."



To me, that leaves a lot of room for error and disbelief.

Yup. Fucked up, but the translation is a-mazing. Just gorgeous words. Gorgeous.

[TuHolmes]

Yup. Fucked up, but the translation is a-mazing. Just gorgeous words. Gorgeous.

Absolutely true.

I wish we knew exactly who the people were who translated it. They deserve recognition.

[dr.chimps]

Absolutely true.

I wish we knew exactly who the people were who translated it. They deserve recognition.

There was a book that came out in the last coupla years - detailing the committee that put it together. Buncha real smart guys. Guys you've heard of. King James, right? 

[TuHolmes]

There was a book that came out in the last coupla years - detailing the committee that put it together. Buncha real smart guys. Guys you've heard of. King James, right? 

[dr.chimps]

Le Bron. The talent is man-i-fest! HOF awaits, unless he Pete Roses' -it.

[TuHolmes]

Le Bron. The talent is man-i-fest! HOF awaits, unless he Pete Roses' -it.

No doubt. He is a guaranteed Hall of Famer.

[Wiggs]

Wiggs is here...Time for some edification and understanding.

[funk51]

The people in this report- how do you think they rationalize what they do? Do you think there is a possibility that they are actual believers who think they are doing the work of God? Or do you think that they are atheists and scam artists and it ends there? Do you think they might have a more complicated view of religion? Some of them are literally putting people's lives in jeopardy.  If you are in any way religious, it seems like stealing in the name of the lord- on such a massive scale, no less- would be hard to cope with mentally. I have been mostly agnostic since my teens, and I was still well into my 20s before I could say "oh my god" without feeling like I was going to hell.

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great show,   i despise these people for how they bilk the poor, uneducated and downtrodden out of their money...... that being said anyone is welcome to send me seed money and i will plant it in my bank account .   i might even say a prayer or two for you.... of course that depends on how much you send...

[funk51]

great show,   i despise these people for how they bilk the poor, uneducated and downtrodden out of their money...... that being said anyone is welcome to send me seed money and i will plant it in my bank account .   i might even say a prayer or two for you.... of course that depends on how much you send...

after a few of these transactions , i'll send you some holy popcorn which was annointed by the guy pic'd below...

[Overload]

They should all be shot.  Starting with Joel Olsteen and his 5k suits.

[Tapeworm]

Say what you want about them but they can add a middle syllable to words like nobody's business.  "Ju-HE-sus!"  Then he went to Subway and got a suh-HAND-wich.

My grandparents, apparently never religious people, got into watching the pruh-HE-chur on the box.  "Thru this miracle of television."  Didn't send money to The 700 Club as far as I know, although the tryhard marketeyness of that name just makes my skin crawl.  Whatever.  If it brought them some final comfort.  They deserved some after the life they endured.

[The Scott]

The Gospel of Christ is to be given freely and never, ever forced upon anyone.  Televangelists are scum.  All of them.

[SF1900]

LOL, I literally tell no one how to live their life.  That's just how some internalize my words.....scripture convicts my friend.

99% of what I do is defend my faith.  Within that I work in the gospel message.

Here's the thing, dr. chimps wasn't accussing me of saying something inappropriate.  You, on the other hand, review my posts hoping to find something.

I used the term "off color" as an example, but I quoted it because I already knew you (in particular) would latch onto those words....and you did.   You repeatedly attempt to take an example of something (that I actually don't do) and force an absolute onto me.   I know and expect the ploy before it happens.

"See, your off color humor is hypocritical....so stop preaching."  I expect it and see right through it.  Bu further, I don't do it (here marks the beginning of the frantic search for anything in my post history to use as ammunition....good luck with that).

But you're right I can't have it both ways so I can't engage in whimsy, cursing, foul talk and all that.....I choose to represent Christ.

Let me rephrase: you don't tell us how to specifically live our lives but by telling us you hope we find Jesus Christ, you are indirectly prescribing a certain way of life or doctrine of living. Don't mince words.

I don't review your posts HOPING to find something. Stop being paranoid. If I read your posts and something strikes me as a contradiction (your words contradict the words and/or life of JC), then I point it out. Stop playing the typical, victimized, paranoid theist (everyone is persecuting me or trying to take away my religion). . I am not looking for anything. I only point out what you write.

[tbombz]

No, you farking waste of space, the first commandment is 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' Really!? A God needs a copyright codicil off the get-go!? This is why you, and all your religious blowhard exponents, fail. Man, you are such a disappointment. But, trust me, you know this.   

"Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'

Jesus replied:  'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.'"

Matthew 22:34-40

 

[HarleyBreite]

I must confess my own shallowness.  I scrolled this thread hoping for hot pictures of Jessica Hahn.