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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2006, 10:38:48 PM »
NO WAY I believe that Bob. No way!

A 3 year deal, worth $250K a year (no matter what) and you can keep everything you got now, except the IFBB rep spot, and you say you would "respectfully decline"?

Yeah RIGHT!

That would be an extra 3/4 of a mil in your pocket guaranteed just to promote the PDI for 3 years.

Bob, you know you'd be sippin' on Gin & Juice all the way to the bank.

Bro...you're not considering all the factors.

It's got nothing to do with the "Athletes Rep" position (a non-paying job at that).

The IFBB represents more than just contest winnings to me (which make up very little). My contract with BB.com, Weider/AMI, Egg whites Int., and various other endorsements, appearances, and opportunities have all been a direct result of my being an IFBB pro.

The PDI can't even guarantee they'll be around in 6 months, let alone offer anything of significance (money/ contracts/ exposure, etc). I realize you're speaking in hypothetical circumstances...but the point remains the same.

It's the same principle that led to many more pro's NOT joining the WBF...than did. And the WBF had GUARANTEED CONTRACTS..! As Troy said on the radio, he wants to compete against the best, and the best is in the IFBB.


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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2006, 10:50:28 PM »
Yeah, I can kinda see your point. But money (guaranteed at that) talks loud.

But you can't compare the PDI with the WBF. I retract that statement simply because after seeing the "props" on stage at the NOC, that was a disgrace. But it's still is bodybuilding. The WBF was a poor attempt to make bbing mainstream.

But you promoting the PDI could and would open up just as many doors for you as the IFBB did. Hell, what if Egg Whites Int. sponsors a PDI event? Are you in or out?

The PDI has to start off somewhere.

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2006, 12:20:23 AM »
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2006, 01:04:21 AM »
It's got nothing to do with the "Athletes Rep" position (a non-paying job at that).

The IFBB represents more than just contest winnings to me (which make up very little). My contract with ... Weider/AMI

I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2006, 03:53:10 AM »

IMO he did beat those guys.  he got overlooked on the hype those other names usually bring.  if branch didnt score 2nd at the arnold, no way he places as he did.    gunter, keeps riding his gnc win over ronnie for gift placings and   dennis....well ok, i agree, dennis beat him. 

How many gifts did Troy get in his career. He just did not capitalize on them- it is too late now
When freeman beat him at the Arnold it was the end

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2006, 05:40:43 PM »
Bro...you're not considering all the factors.

How many 40-somethings do you know who use the term "bro"?

And people wonder why bodybuilders are thought of as stupid!  ::)


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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2006, 06:21:47 PM »
alves is gonna need a nickname soon.
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2006, 06:22:53 PM »
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.

What about Troy "Chick" Alves?

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2006, 06:29:35 PM »
I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Who is "many"? "Many" people here on getbig? Who are my two bosses adversaries of?

Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2006, 06:32:00 PM »
How many 40-somethings do you know who use the term "bro"?

And people wonder why bodybuilders are thought of as stupid!  ::)




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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2006, 06:50:11 PM »
After hearing the replay of Troy Alves making statements like "I beat Branch, Dennis & Gunter" and "Lee Priest Should be Suspended", what is one word you'd use to describe the guy?
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2006, 07:02:06 PM »
That was weak.

It was also accurate.


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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2006, 12:27:55 AM »
Symmetrical bodybuilder.
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2006, 12:42:01 AM »
Who is "many"? "Many" people here on getbig? Who are my two bosses adversaries of?

Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....

I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Employees and Mgmt are adversarial by definition.  Employees would like to be earning what the mgmt is earning, or more, as they do the hard work.  Mgmt would like to be paying guys minimum wage, as they run the system and employees are plugged in.  Call me cynical, but in general, employees always want to earn more, and Mgmt would always like to pay less.  Can we agree on that much?

Now... BBing is just like that. 

Employees = Bodybuilders.  They would surely like to be earning more money than they currently do.  Therefore, a person who represents them - and their goals - would like them to be earning more money.  And you do that.

IFBB/AMI = Mgmt.  They would like to be paying guys the minimum they have to, and they would like to keep most, if not all, profits made.  This is normal and there is nothing wrong with it. 

Since you work for teh athletes as their representative, you wear a hat that says "I will fight for more money for these guys".  But since you ALSO work for Weider/AMI, making you their subordinate employee, you have to do what they say.  And, since bosses will give their underlings tasks which help them achieve their goals (one of which is earn more money), you are inevitably going to have to choose a side.

It's like this in every field.  Name one other example of a guy who is employees rep, who also gets an independent check from the bosses that the other guys don't get.  I mean, you KNOW you can't play too rough with manion, or you'll lose your check.

Not ragging on you, but your response sounded condescending "Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....". 


You asked, "Who are my two bosses adversaries of?"
They both have the same goal - get the biggest share possible of that money pie sitting on the table. Therefore by definition they are adversaries of each other- they are competing for a finite number of dollars.

It's just like one guy playing for the Bears and working as an asst. coach for the Lions.  When they play, there is only one "W" up there to grab.  Will the guy put his resources into helping the Bears win? Or will he "do his best" but at the same time ensure the Lions end up just one point ahead at the end? ;)   See what I'm saying?

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2006, 02:27:31 AM »
  How bout Troy "Flex" Alves.

Sounds great, I mean it's like anyone can have "flex" for a nickname these days.
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2006, 05:21:00 AM »
Sounds great, I mean it's like anyone can have "flex" for a nickname these days.

Well Ken Wheeler does not need it anymore - he is a big business man now - hahahaha

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #91 on: October 19, 2006, 05:38:37 AM »
I think the fact that you are a Weider/AMI employee, is what many resent about the job you do as atheltes' rep.  Seriously, you have two bosses, who happen to be adversaries.  And since only one of them gives you a paycheck, at the end of the day, you're going to keep them happy.

Employees and Mgmt are adversarial by definition.  Employees would like to be earning what the mgmt is earning, or more, as they do the hard work.  Mgmt would like to be paying guys minimum wage, as they run the system and employees are plugged in.  Call me cynical, but in general, employees always want to earn more, and Mgmt would always like to pay less.  Can we agree on that much?

Now... BBing is just like that. 

Employees = Bodybuilders.  They would surely like to be earning more money than they currently do.  Therefore, a person who represents them - and their goals - would like them to be earning more money.  And you do that.

IFBB/AMI = Mgmt.  They would like to be paying guys the minimum they have to, and they would like to keep most, if not all, profits made.  This is normal and there is nothing wrong with it. 

Since you work for teh athletes as their representative, you wear a hat that says "I will fight for more money for these guys".  But since you ALSO work for Weider/AMI, making you their subordinate employee, you have to do what they say.  And, since bosses will give their underlings tasks which help them achieve their goals (one of which is earn more money), you are inevitably going to have to choose a side.

It's like this in every field.  Name one other example of a guy who is employees rep, who also gets an independent check from the bosses that the other guys don't get.  I mean, you KNOW you can't play too rough with manion, or you'll lose your check.

Not ragging on you, but your response sounded condescending "Amazing you can form an opinion on matters of which you know far less than you think you do....". 


You asked, "Who are my two bosses adversaries of?"
They both have the same goal - get the biggest share possible of that money pie sitting on the table. Therefore by definition they are adversaries of each other- they are competing for a finite number of dollars.

It's just like one guy playing for the Bears and working as an asst. coach for the Lions.  When they play, there is only one "W" up there to grab.  Will the guy put his resources into helping the Bears win? Or will he "do his best" but at the same time ensure the Lions end up just one point ahead at the end? ;)   See what I'm saying?

Good post, 240.

Of course you have a point here - this being a problem for his job as a rep?
I'm not sure, that depends on "the suits" and how the manage their power.

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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #92 on: October 19, 2006, 05:45:43 AM »
Well Ken Wheeler does not need it anymore - he is a big business man now - hahahaha

Ken who???

man, just call him Flex. But wait, wasn't there another on? Luke 'Flex' Wood? 'The True Flex'? 'Flexxx'?

'240 or flex'? shit, i'm getting it all mixed up.

Flex Cutler? awww, i give up.

Bob Flexerillo?


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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #93 on: October 19, 2006, 05:55:27 AM »
Ken who???

man, just call him Flex. But wait, wasn't there another on? Luke 'Flex' Wood? 'The True Flex'? 'Flexxx'?

'240 or flex'? shit, i'm getting it all mixed up.

Flex Cutler? awww, i give up.

Bob Flexerillo?



I like Mike "Flex" Machine 8), seriously though I don't >:(
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #94 on: October 19, 2006, 07:00:11 AM »
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Re: One word to describe Troy Alves
« Reply #95 on: October 19, 2006, 07:07:25 AM »
If IF'S and BUT'S were candy and nuts...we'd all have a Merry Fuckin Christmas. ;D

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