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How to do Bent Over Rows
« on: October 18, 2006, 04:48:38 PM »
What is the proper execution of this exercise ??

a.) Some random 'fitness' guys or b.) Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates ?????



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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2006, 04:51:10 PM »
Elaborate.

What do you think?

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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2006, 04:51:35 PM »
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2006, 04:59:15 PM »
everyone likes to bring up the 315 lbs  bent over row... but when I say I do it like Dorian , you get the ..oh the Super Shrug..... or something to that effect...... So I put up a pic of some skinny dude doing the so-called "pure" way ...versus Dorian "Top 3 Backs of All Time" Yates doing it in a more upright position ....
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2006, 06:08:27 PM »
I tend to do mine more Dorian-like.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2006, 08:06:22 PM »
Quote from: jaejonna on October 18, 2006, 04:48:38 PM
What is the proper execution of this exercise ??

a.) Some random 'fitness' guys or b.) Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates ?????



Dicuss this $hit!!!!!!!!!!

Both versions are "correct", if they stimulate the muscles in the back. The "fitness" guy is doing them the traditional way. Why are you implying that he's doing something wrong, other than the fact that he's smaller than Yates? Lee Haney did rows in the traditional manner. It's fairly safe to say that his back was well-developed.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2006, 09:47:34 PM »
Jae, I would OWN YOUR ASS on back movements.  Period, end of discussion.  When comparing movement to bodyweight I'd have you UNDER the damn weight bench.  I guarun-damn-tee you that you couldn't TOUCH ME on back when it comes to bodyweight vs. exercise.  I would flat out OWN your ASS if you want to break down percentage...and I lift by myself to not get HURT and avoid things that others rely on.

Bring it, punk.  Bring the numbers.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 10:01:34 PM »
Ideal is to stand about 70 degrees as Dorian does. This allows you to place a greater load on your back. However, I do not prefer the underhand grip. Underhand is also more likely to result in a bicep tear.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2006, 04:24:42 AM »
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Ideal is to stand about 70 degrees as Dorian does. This allows you to place a greater load on your back. However, I do not prefer the underhand grip. Underhand is also more likely to result in a bicep tear.
There is no ideal. The Yates style allows more weight to be used, because the lats are under stress for less of the ROM, but the main thing is to do the version that which hits the lats effectively, without hurting the lower back.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2006, 04:35:27 AM »
Quote from: TheEgoCrusher on October 18, 2006, 09:47:34 PM
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Bring it, punk.  Bring the numbers.

The first picture is plain wrong,
why?
There's to much pressure on the lower back, just check out the natural curve of a back, and the structure of the vertebrae , if you bend over, certain vertebrae will be under to much pressure. It's better to use a bench if you want to go flat.

If you do them standing, dorian-yates style is better, a certain degree must be maintained to prevent hernia.

It's safe to say that the first picter isn't a very effective exercise to perform cause there are better alternatives, a regular bench with a barbell is better.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2006, 04:36:31 AM »
 BB rows are my favorite exercise.  I have the best luck with an angle somewhat in the middle.Not parralel to the floor,but not as upright as Yates either.I like both grips,however I feel it in the lats much better with an overhand grip.For me,that grip makes it easier to use my hands as hooks,if you follow what I mean by that. I get a deeper stretch and rom with the underhand grip,but use too much arms in comparison to the overhand.Whatever works best for the individual is the way it should be done.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2006, 05:18:31 AM »
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I feel it in the lats much better with an overhand grip.For me,that grip makes it easier to use my hands as hooks,if you follow what I mean by that. I get a deeper stretch and rom with the underhand grip,but use too much arms in comparison to the overhand.
This is my own experience, that underhand hits the bis too much, whether rowing or doing chins/pulldowns. The best grip of all IMO is neutral palms facing in grip, which is part of why i prefer T-bar rows, along with the fact that it's also easier on the lower back.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2006, 06:07:10 AM »
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that which hits the lats effectively, without hurting the lower back.

most important thing to consider in this exercise! I perform them just like i do my t-bars, where i stand up enough that my lowerback is out of the equation and I can really focus on my lats instead of worrying about when my lower back will give out!
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2006, 06:49:17 AM »
Quote from: TheEgoCrusher on October 18, 2006, 09:47:34 PM
Jae, I would OWN YOUR ASS on back movements.  Period, end of discussion.  When comparing movement to bodyweight I'd have you UNDER the damn weight bench.  I guarun-damn-tee you that you couldn't TOUCH ME on back when it comes to bodyweight vs. exercise.  I would flat out OWN your ASS if you want to break down percentage...and I lift by myself to not get HURT and avoid things that others rely on.

Bring it, punk.  Bring the numbers.
Fuck your number, I dont lift to see how much wieght I can move ...that increases with time naturally...hahahahah egocrusher you climbing up the wrong tree , your neub ass will quit lifting and you would off yourself if you ever try to think you can carry my gymbag.... hahahah
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2006, 07:30:07 AM »
I have Bent Over Rows today, maybe I'll throw around 585 like JaeJonna!!!!!!!
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2006, 08:08:51 AM »
I think it's 585 in oz. Heaviest workouts seem to involving typing.  :o
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2006, 08:45:49 AM »
Quote from: TheEgoCrusher on October 18, 2006, 09:47:34 PM
..I would OWN YOUR ASS on back....I'd have you UNDER the damn weight bench...I would flat out OWN your ASS....


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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2006, 11:47:58 AM »
Quote from: TheEgoCrusher on October 18, 2006, 09:47:34 PM
Jae, I would OWN YOUR ASS on back movements.  Period, end of discussion.  When comparing movement to bodyweight I'd have you UNDER the damn weight bench.  I guarun-damn-tee you that you couldn't TOUCH ME on back when it comes to bodyweight vs. exercise.  I would flat out OWN your ASS if you want to break down percentage...and I lift by myself to not get HURT and avoid things that others rely on.

Bring it, punk.  Bring the numbers.

what's with the anger?  Calm down, your gonna blow a gasket or something.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2006, 11:53:08 AM »
I myself feel that both versions of hand grips for bent over rows are beneficial & each give a diferent feel to the exercise.The biggest mistake I see ppl. doing in the execution of this exercise is bringing the bar up to their chest level while performing it.Great if you want to work your rear delts but for back you have to pull into your abdominal region.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2006, 02:51:27 PM »
both. they will hit different parts of the back and allow you to contract it different ways.
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2006, 04:25:35 PM »
Quote from: jaejonna on October 18, 2006, 04:48:38 PM
What is the proper execution of this exercise ??

a.) Some random 'fitness' guys or b.) Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates ?????



Dicuss this $hit!!!!!!!!!!

I would say in between Dorian's and fitness guys. Have your back at a 45 degree angle. Alternate between grips each workout
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2006, 09:22:39 AM »
Gayjonna you couldnt even row 315 in TA's gravity suit...... hahah you are the biggest fag ever 
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Re: How to do Bent Over Rows
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2006, 10:57:14 AM »
Quote from: benjamin pearson on October 24, 2006, 09:22:39 AM
Gayjonna you couldnt even row 315 in TA's gravity suit...... hahah you are the biggest fag ever 
ok , take your insulin..i think your sugar is gettin low..your starting to think stupid
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