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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2006, 06:25:52 PM »
Chris had the potential to be top 10 at the O easy and he wasted it

with his look he was one of the most marketable pro too

it's a shame he never got in shape

IMO, I don't believe Chris wasnt in shape through lack of trying. I just dont think his body was responding to the "supps" and needed a break (while relatively healthy).


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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2006, 06:27:05 PM »
Chris had the potential to be top 10 at the O easy and he wasted it

with his look he was one of the most marketable pro too

it's a shame he never got in shape

I disagree....

He's another "Tamali" type bodybuilder.  Doesn't have what it takes to be top 10 at the Olympia.


He's smarter than Tamali though.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2006, 06:29:16 PM »
IMO, I don't believe Chris wasnt in shape through lack of trying. I just dont think his body was responding to the "supps" and needed a break (while relatively healthy).



don't think so

I call bullshit on the " the body isn't responding very well to the drugs anymore "

I know a lot of guys who use incredibly high dosage for years and it never stop to be effective

I have heard quite a few time that Chris often cheated on his diet, and I believe it cause getting lean is the easiest shit ever if you follow your diet  

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2006, 06:29:50 PM »
I disagree....

He's another "Tamali" type bodybuilder.  Doesn't have what it takes to be top 10 at the Olympia.


He's smarter than Tamali though.

I agree with mr. Whiskers here but only slightly. Chris is levels above tamali.
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2006, 06:32:57 PM »
Chris has a structure that Kamali can only dream to have

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2006, 06:37:05 PM »
Chris has a structure that Kamali can only dream to have

Chris just hasn't had enough time to screw it up like Tamali.


What time he did have....he really did nothing with it.....just like Tamali

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2006, 06:40:05 PM »
Chris just hasn't had enough time to screw it up like Tamali.


What time he did have....he really did nothing with it.....just like Tamali

wen you look at picture from kamali, even from 1999, his arms always sucked big time and his waist was quite large even back then

Chris Cook had a levrone-like structure but he was too lazy to get in crazy condition

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2006, 06:56:34 PM »
wen you look at picture from kamali, even from 1999, his arms always sucked big time and his waist was quite large even back then

Chris Cook had a levrone-like structure but he was too lazy to get in crazy condition

Honestly.....I always thought Chris sucked.  IMO...he barely earned his Pro Card

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2006, 07:02:23 PM »
Honestly.....I always thought Chris sucked.  IMO...he barely earned his Pro Card

I think he sucks too but it doesn't erase the fact that he had a lot of potential

hell Cormier at the potential to be MR.O and he didn't do jack shit with it too


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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2006, 07:25:49 PM »
Cook has a very good structure and would have been a solid pro if he was 100% dedicated. He doesn't suck, he just sucks at dieting.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2006, 07:32:02 PM »
Cook has a very good structure and would have been a solid pro if he was 100% dedicated. He doesn't suck, he just sucks at dieting.
i can't wait to see him get his ass kicked. does he have any prior training?
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2006, 07:33:52 PM »
oh yeah. the title of this thread sucks.
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2006, 07:34:24 PM »
There is a big difference between dieting and dialing in...

No one was more focused or dedicated than Chris. If anything, he may have been a little TOO obsessed with perfection.


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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2006, 07:36:47 PM »
There is a big difference between dieting and dialing in...

No one was more focused or dedicated than Chris. If anything, he may have been a little TOO obsessed with perfection.



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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2006, 07:45:01 PM »
There is a big difference between dieting and dialing in...

No one was more focused or dedicated than Chris. If anything, he may have been a little TOO obsessed with perfection.



what do you mean Chick
that he only messed things up the last week ?



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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2006, 07:46:43 PM »
don't think so

I call bullshit on the " the body isn't responding very well to the drugs anymore "

I know a lot of guys who use incredibly high dosage for years and it never stop to be effective

I have heard quite a few time that Chris often cheated on his diet, and I believe it cause getting lean is the easiest shit ever if you follow your diet  

 i agree. ive heard quite a few people say that chris never stayed hardcore on his dieting. therefore he came in soft.
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2006, 08:38:50 PM »
Chris shouldn't waste his potential like that - he should be using the 2-3 years to IMPROVE, not regress. BIG mistake, unless he needs the dough.
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2006, 09:54:42 PM »
what do you mean Chick
that he only messed things up the last week ?




Chris' problem was the ability to really get a program that allowed him to dry out and retain the size neccessary to place higher at the pro level...water retention is a huge problem amongst Bbers, and Chris always had a problem fighting water.

This was no reflection of his work ethic (which was second to none) or his ability to diet strictly..anyone who was close to Chris knew his discipline was 100%..he had no problem sticking to a diet and to sugggest he did is absurd.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #68 on: October 24, 2006, 09:57:17 PM »
Chris' problem was the ability to really get a program that allowed him to dry out and retain the size neccessary to place higher at the pro level...water retention is a huge problem amongst Bbers, and Chris always had a problem fighting water.

This was no reflection of his work ethic (which was second to none) or his ability to diet strictly..anyone who was close to Chris knew his discipline was 100%..he had no problem sticking to a diet and to sugggest he did is absurd.

He must not know food values very well to get lean with any consistency. And perhaps had a bad response to certain drugs or not knowing enough about them  that allowed him to retain water.

That is the only justification for him not being lean at times.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2006, 10:08:39 PM »
There is a lot more to it than that....If you ever competed, you would have a better understanding that it's a lot tougher than you think to come in 100% on game day...you can be flat, holding water, over/ under-carbed, over-dehydrated, etc...

This gets compounded with each level that you achieve, as the physiques get better and have less flaws.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2006, 10:09:51 PM »
Anybody who's ever stepped on stage knows that dialing it in is an extremely hard thing to do.
Timing is a bitch, and on the pro level its a whole other ball game. I don't think Chris tried hard enough to figure out his own body. Look at Lee, he has been competing for years and through personal experience learned how to come in consistently on point.Contest Prep is indeed an art, and can only be learned through experience. Cook should have stuck around a little longer to see if he could have turned it around.
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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2006, 12:24:03 AM »
The MMA thing is totally irrelevant...

Chris is working in the financial consulting business...it's a paying, regular job with great potential for moving up the ladder and making a secure living.

LOL @ thought of Chris selling retirement packages by day and fishooking guys by night.

I see edward norton from fight club- coming into work with black eyes, spouting bloody noses at office meetings...

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2006, 09:54:25 AM »
Well, obviously....Chris wasn't all that good....no matter how "disciplined" he was.


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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2006, 11:53:49 AM »
Yes, but Cook doesn't have the pre-requisite 14 tattoos needed to be a good UFC fighter.

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Re: Pro card gets cooked
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2006, 09:36:21 PM »
That's too bad. Dude had a lot of potential. but in the end, this is probably the right decision.