Evangelical Leader Accused of Gay Affair

[BayGBM]

Evangelical Leader Accused of Gay Affair
Evangelical Leader Ted Haggard Steps Down After Being Accused of Affair With Gay Man

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. Nov 2, 2006 (AP)— The Rev. Ted Haggard resigned as president of the influential National Association of Evangelicals on Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.

Haggard who has been a leading opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations."

The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years.

Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press.

 

[Diesel1]

It'd be great if the other guy came forward and gave us all the sordid details

[BayGBM]

I sincerely hope it’s not true, but I have to say, I saw Rev. Haggard interviewed about a year ago and my gaydar went off.  There’s nothing wrong with being gay; there’s nothing wrong with being a gay reverend, but a married gay reverend who hires a man for sex on the side while opposing equal treatment for gays and lesbians?  Not cool. 

If he’s innocent why resign?

[Diesel1]

If the same situation happened in the UK, especially with his stance against gay marriage and being such a hypocrite, the tabloids would have a field day.

You could bet your life that they'd track the other bloke down, buy his story and give us a blow by blow account of what went on lol

[Dos Equis]

It will be interesting to see if he files a defamation lawsuit (truth is a defense). 

The guy claims to have a smoking gun or two:

Jones, whose allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM radio in Denver, claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art.

Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard. He said he last had sex with Haggard in August and did not warn him before making his allegations public this week.

Jones said he has voice mails from Haggard as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make any of it available to the AP.

"There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning," he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227159,00.html

[BayGBM]

It will be interesting to see if he files a defamation lawsuit (truth is a defense). 

Don't hold your breath.

Hmm, this gives new meaning to worshipping a dick... or muscle worship... or--oh you get the idea. 

[Camel Jockey]

In the south park episode about satan's bday party the christian preists had little naked boys on leashs haha

[OzmO]

And to think:

I was chewed out when i said:


"Christians should start acting more like Christians"

And this is one of the LEADERS!

[Dos Equis]

And to think:

I was chewed out when i said:


"Christians should start acting more like Christians"

And this is one of the LEADERS!

A Christian sinner.  Imagine that.

This incident reminds me of the scene from one of the Scary Movie sequels (2 or 3) where the lady calls a babysitter, a priest, to watch her son.  The priest shows up with a bottle of wine and candles.  The kid takes one look at him and runs.  Funniest scene of the entire movie.      

[OzmO]

A Christian sinner.  Imagine that.

This incident reminds me of the scene from one of the Scary Movie sequels (2 or 3) where the lady calls a babysitter, a priest, to watch her son.  The priest shows up with a bottle of wine and candles.  The kid takes one look at him and runs.  Funniest scene of the entire movie.      

Is the power of GOD so weak that once you accept Jesus as your savior you cannot choose to stop paying for GAY SEX?

And from a typical christain, i can see that,  but from a LEADER of a Church it's unacceptable.

[Clubber Lang]

did this take place in houston

hi goatboy!

[Dos Equis]

Is the power of GOD so weak that once you accept Jesus as your savior you cannot choose to stop paying for GAY SEX?

And from a typical christain, i can see that,  but from a LEADER of a Church it's unacceptable.

If it's true, it is absolutely unacceptable.  I think religious leaders must be held to a higher standard than lay people. 

That said, I see this as one man with a potential problem, not an indictment of Christianity.  Just like the gay bathhouse culture doesn't represent all homosexuals.   

[BayGBM]

Hmm, I wonder if that escort was a muscle escort?  ha ha ha that would be a delicious twist. 

I can see the headlines now, "Reverend worships muscledick; Congregation on their knees (in prayer)" 

[G o a t b o y]

did this take place in houston

hi goatboy!

Nope, I heard it was Toronto.


hi jimmy!

[OzmO]

If it's true, it is absolutely unacceptable.  I think religious leaders must be held to a higher standard than lay people. 

That said, I see this as one man with a potential problem, not an indictment of Christianity. Just like the gay bathhouse culture doesn't represent all homosexuals.   

It's not.  But it will be viewed as such by many who potentially could be Christians at some point.

that's why i say:

Christiains need to act more like Christians.

[Dos Equis]

It's not.  But it will be viewed as such by many who potentially could be Christians at some point.

that's why i say:

Christiains need to act more like Christians.

Yes they do, but I think you're looking for perfection. 

[OzmO]

Yes they do, but I think you're looking for perfection. 

No, Far from it.  I'm looking for christians not to committ major sins AND the multitutde of things christianity calls sins that boildown to just being human  .    According to every die hard christiain  homosexuality is a major sin. 

If you are going ot preach then i think you should practice it, not hide behind the "I'm saved" banner.

[OzmO]

Think about this  BB:


Would you:

Pay for sex with a man?

According to most conservative people homosexuality is a choice.  This man made a concious choice to have sex with another man.

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

I'm not talking about the occasional white lie, or lusting after someone............  No one can deny those things....it part of being human.  I'm not looking for that level of perfection.

[BayGBM]

Watch Haggard deny the accusations here

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/02/haggard.allegations/index.html

[Dos Equis]

Think about this  BB:


Would you:

Pay for sex with a man?

According to most conservative people homosexuality is a choice.  This man made a concious choice to have sex with another man.

What's stopping you from doing the same thing?

I'm not talking about the occasional white lie, or lusting after someone............  No one can deny those things....it part of being human.  I'm not looking for that level of perfection.

Heck no.  I don't need to pay for sex.  I sleep with a naked woman every night.    

There is no excuse for a high profile preacher to engage in this kind of conduct (assuming it is true).  Absolutely unacceptable.  Anyone in a position like that can become a major stumbling block for people who haven't yet found their way.   

[Clubber Lang]

I sleep with a naked woman every night.    

way to go champ!

[OzmO]

Heck no.  I don't need to pay for sex.  I sleep with a naked woman every night.    

There is no excuse for a high profile preacher to engage in this kind of conduct (assuming it is true).  Absolutely unacceptable.  Anyone in a position like that can become a major stumbling block for people who haven't yet found their way.   

Perhaps this sheds a different light on being homosexual as it's more something you are born with rather than you choose.

Why wouldn't he chose to have sex with a woman?


And this isn;t the first time this has happen with a pastor.

[haider]

oh, what a surprise...


Evangelicals are homo's.

[BayGBM]

oh, what a surprise...


Evangelicals are homo's.

And evangelical bodybuilders are... 

[Al-Gebra]

removed my post . . . I need to go to bed, my reading comprehension is failing.

for my next act, i will be charging at windmills.