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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2006, 06:58:44 AM »
adults are already formed.  lol

Honsetly a spanking is not a bad thing.  Beating kids is another story.  All this BS time out, or go to your room stuff is weak.  Ok so i color the walls and get a 10 minute timeout, big punishment.  Sending kids to their room is like a vacation.  Unless you take everything they have away from them its not a punishment.  Face it, you learn from pain.  Just when i train in martial arts,positive reifnofrcemnt is for the girls.  we learned and learned well through pain nad punishment.  Kids today have no repsect for authority and most of thses were probably raised on the powder puff principles of time outs


The adults of your generation said the same thing when you where growing up. If a kid is coloring on walls when he is punished the parents need to do a better job of teaching him right from wrong.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2006, 07:00:10 AM »
never say never, but i cant imagine hitting a child of mine. i dont have a problem with it, my parents hit me when i was being a shit, but i dont think teaching your child to do the right thing with violence is optimal.

id imagine the mentality behind hitting kids is you do it cause they arent old enough to understand why what they are doing is wrong (i hope thats the mentality, cause otherwise anyone who endorses beating kids surely must endorse slapping the wife around). the problem here is if youre hitting them at that kind of a developmental age you are drilling it in their heads that violence solves problems,and that does more harm in the long run than short term good (ie less noise, mess, whatever the kid was doing that caused you to hit him)

id much rather find another way to hurt his pride/punish him physically, like make him do 1000 situps, clean the toilets etc...


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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2006, 07:00:36 AM »
All hiting a child does is teach them violence is the answer to conflict/problems You know all the bullies that your kids come home crying about? How much would you like to bet there father beats the shit out of him when he does wrong?

There is no reason to smack your child. Why not just smack your wife? She is prob only 30 lbs less than you. A kid is most likely 1/3 your size.


There are plenty of ways to discapline a kid without smacking them. Before I get the " I was hit and it was the best thing for me garbage", that may be true in your case. But when you add up all the numbers hitting children does far more damage than good. It is a cycle that never ends. My father beat the shit out of me growing up when I did wrong. I will never hit my child when I have one. All that did was teach me violence was a way to solve problems when I was a kid.


The year is 2006. Not 1922. Learn how to raise your kids without smacking them around ::)

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2006, 07:01:36 AM »
I was beaten but I think spanking can be appropriate.  (no comments from you Clubber >:( )


theres few things i wont laught at, someone hitting u is one of them bro :)

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2006, 07:02:25 AM »
There is never any reason to hit kids imo. I got my ass kicked when I was younger. I will never spank/ smack my children.

I have a American bulldog that can be an absolute terror. Mind you this animal does not have the thinking ability of a child. The ability to understand right and wrong as well as a human. I have him trained to a t. Never smacked him once when he did wrong.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2006, 07:02:46 AM »
id imagine the mentality behind hitting kids is you do it cause they arent old enough to understand why what they are doing is wrong

The concensus seems to be that because "I was hit, it's ok to hit mine"

Should a school teacher be allowed to hit your kid if he's bein a prat?

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2006, 07:04:47 AM »
"its easier to beat a kid than to raise it"

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2006, 07:05:01 AM »
lol.

Spanking is fine.  We were spanked and came ut fine and respecting adults. 

Really? I was spanked once, after having been wrongly accused of something, and I remember it to this day. It taught me nothing.  :-\  The dark, horrible look on my father's face when he was displeased about something was usually enough to instill the fear of God into us.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2006, 07:06:38 AM »
The concensus seems to be that because "I was hit, it's ok to hit mine"

Should a school teacher be allowed to hit your kid if he's bein a prat?


It is a cycle. Most all children that are hit, grow up to hit there children. I just do not see the point of a light spanking. For a child to learn from being hit. They need to feel pain, fear and intimidation. If not they learn if they do wrong they get a light smack on the butt and go about there day. Anything that would cause a young kid legit pain/fear is not the right way to do it.

I know I was far more upset when my father told me I could not attend my motocross race I was really looking forward to(raced as a kid) than when he beat the shit out of my in a rage.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2006, 07:12:02 AM »

It is a cycle. Most all children that are hit, grow up to hit there children. I just do not see the point of a light spanking. For a child to learn from being hit. They need to feel pain, fear and intimidation. If not they learn if they do wrong they get a light smack on the butt and go about there day. Anything that would cause a young kid legit pain/fear is not the right way to do it.

I know I was far more upset when my father told me I could not attend my motocross race(raced as a kid) than when he beat the shit out of my in a rage.

my parents did a decent job with me, the fact that I'm clinically insane is not their fault. I was hit a few times and I could see it in their eyes that it was out of frustration. My parents were raised in a different era though and i believe i wasnt hit as often as my folks were as kids. i do believe its being diluted out of society.

when i was a kid it was ok for teachers to give you the cane, let alone the principal (was beating children part of their job description?)

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2006, 07:16:20 AM »
i know when i was a kid and kids that get smacked now adays straighten their asses up when they think they'll get spanked for it...


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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2006, 07:23:16 AM »
my parents did a decent job with me, the fact that I'm clinically insane is not their fault. I was hit a few times and I could see it in their eyes that it was out of frustration. My parents were raised in a different era though and i believe i wasnt hit as often as my folks were as kids. i do believe its being diluted out of society.

when i was a kid it was ok for teachers to give you the cane, let alone the principal (was beating children part of their job description?)


It was part of there "getting out personal frustration" and "power trip" job description....... If a teacher ever smacked me I would would have hit them right back.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2006, 07:26:26 AM »
Really? I was spanked once, after having been wrongly accused of something, and I remember it to this day. It taught me nothing.  :-\  The dark, horrible look on my father's face when he was displeased about something was usually enough to instill the fear of God into us.

i bet if i spank you it would change your mind  ;)

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2006, 07:26:39 AM »

It was part of there "getting out personal frustration" and "power trip" job description....... If a teacher ever smacked me I would would have hit them right back.

the thing is though if you were sent to the principle, that wasnt the bastard you'd pissed off...so frustration dosnt count

he did that shit as part of his job

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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2006, 07:32:20 AM »
i remember my estonian grade 6 teacher used to smack the kids around

i saw her one day when i was in highschool (at night when i was drinking with my friends) and i told her i hate estonians, the bitch told my mom about it later

the funny thing is i dont even know what part of mexico estonia is in :D

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2006, 07:34:10 AM »
i remember my estonian grade 6 teacher used to smack the kids around

i saw her one day when i was in highschool (at night when i was drinking with my friends) and i told her i hate estonians, the bitch told my mom about it later

the funny thing is i dont even know what part of mexico estonia is in :D

Tell her you'll call childrens aid :D Somebody gonna get a hurt reel bad.... Somebody.
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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2006, 07:36:02 AM »
Tell her you'll call childrens aid :D Somebody gonna get a hurt reel bad.... Somebody.

lol, one of my fav standup routines

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2006, 07:39:22 AM »
the thing is though if you were sent to the principle, that wasnt the bastard you'd pissed off...so frustration dosnt count

he did that shit as part of his job


Terrible...... Glad things have progressed since then.

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2006, 07:47:08 AM »
hell no diesel  >:( nor a child beater

thats my point though, some people suggest that punishing kids by hitting them is ok, but then if you hit anyone else in the community youre charged with assault

If you cant control a child without duke'n them then you shouldnt be a parent for mine

Glad to hear it  ;) I was jesting btw

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2006, 07:57:25 AM »
Do you think you should be able to hit your kids if they mess up?

Yes!

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The way I see it, if you're allowed to hit your kids you should be able to hit your wife or husband if they act up

whats the difference?

Huge difference.

For starters your kids are your legal and moral responsibility to raise and discipline in a manner to which they will be productive and useful in life. Once they hit 18, by law they are considered adults (mentality developed, values,beliefs..etc and all that psychological stuff insert here  ;D) and if you hit them then, they can press charges. Now you are trying to control them by force.

Your spouse I would hope is above 18 years old. If you hit them, (same rules apply) they can press charges. They are considered by law mentally capable and (insert all that psychological stuff here) to function as an adult without adult supervision or any forms of abuse to control them.


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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2006, 08:20:52 AM »
Do you think you should be able to hit your kids if they mess up?

The way I see it, if youre allowed to hit your kids you should be able to hit your wife or husband if they act up

whats the difference?
I think you should be able to drop kick your kids if they mess up... :P


No I don't have or want kids ;D

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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2006, 08:24:02 AM »
I think you should be able to drop kick your kids if they mess up... :P


No I don't have or want kids ;D

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Re: smacking kids
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2006, 08:30:22 AM »
Yes!

Huge difference.

For starters your kids are your legal

legal?

if a kid, no matter what age fucks up in society, the parents are NEVER put on trial

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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2006, 08:57:03 AM »
I think good parents should be able to control there kids without hitting them.
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2006, 09:00:26 AM »
legal?

if a kid, no matter what age fucks up in society, the parents are NEVER put on trial

Called the Parent Liability Child's Act.  Happens all the time.

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One of my teammates cousin in high school was being teased at home by a larger teen once. He got fed up and went home, got his mothers gun out of the closet (she was sleeping on the couch after work), he came back and shot the older teen dead. He was sent to juv. and she was hit with every charged from neglected supervision down to not even having the gun registered by the victim family and police.

It can come back to haunt you.

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This same punk cousin of my team mate (when he got out of juv.) thought he was a freaking tough guy since he shot the other teen. Thought he was hard now. He bragged about it to us and we were like "dude you are a f**king punk and always will be a soft punk.

I still think about that other family to this day how they lost their kid over some bullsh*t like that.