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Hey Ron Harris, Here's how you do real shoulder presses!
« on: November 09, 2006, 07:08:45 AM »
this is how you really handle 225, not the half reps almost standing up that you do,

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2006, 07:39:55 AM »
BrianX would pass out, and go into a seizure doing them like that.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 07:41:10 AM »
BrianX would pass out, and go into a seizure doing them like that.
Ron couldn't do 185 like that.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 07:51:22 AM »
Ron couldn't do 185 like that.
prob not..... which is pretty sad.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 08:43:57 AM »
this is how you really handle 225, not the half reps almost standing up that you do,
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I think those reps look fine but as you are such a stickler for perfect performance why don't you note the fact he doesn't go all of the way down?
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 09:23:28 AM »
Yeah, shouldn't he pause for a full second at the bottom to totally eliminate momentum, go all the way up, and get a slower, more controlled negative?

Steve is without doubt stronger than I am. He is also 265 pounds to my 225.

Squadfather, I am waiting for your lifting videos so I can critique! I want to see you do that press with 315 for 10 perfect reps.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 09:35:35 AM »
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 09:37:03 AM »
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha

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brutal 15 inch armed most muscular,

btw do u actually think people believe u are 100% natural?

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 09:37:39 AM »
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 09:40:31 AM »
brutal 15 inch armed most muscular,

btw do u actually think people believe u are 100% natural?
I dont know this dude david but come on man hes in great shape period.. dont hate on the man..Who cares if hes natural or not..
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 09:47:05 AM »
I dont know this dude david but come on man hes in great shape period.. dont hate on the man..Who cares if hes natural or not..

yeah i know what u mean, sometimes the h8er just comes out of me, 

sorry ron, u look great there props.

the brutal 15 inch arm remark was toungue in cheek though.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2006, 09:48:26 AM »
yeah i know what u mean, sometimes the h8er just comes out of me, 

sorry ron, u look great there props.

the brutal 15 inch arm remark was toungue in cheek though.
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2006, 09:52:27 AM »
he ooks very very sick in that pic.... but easily one the the ugliest people ive ever seen

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2006, 09:55:57 AM »
Ron,

What do you look like Natural?

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2006, 10:01:30 AM »
Ron,

What do you look like Natural?
like you 145 pounds of skin and bones
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2006, 10:06:39 AM »
Ron,

What do you look like Natural?

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2006, 10:13:04 AM »
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha

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I hope you are natural, because I've seen natural pros with way more size than you.
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2006, 10:16:20 AM »
hahahaha no delts, right hahahahahaha

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good delts for a natural...waist is a little bit wide though.  I think you would do decently in the 2007 mr. getbig.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 10:16:46 AM »
I'm done guys. Some of you love to keep going back and forth with your "brutal, epic, pwned" crap, but I need to get to work. Have fun!

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2006, 10:23:56 AM »

 Hey Ron...

 I'm hitting shoulders tonite. How does one STRETCH shoulders in a DC way? Is it the same as 'ballistic stretching'? How do you DC a shoulder session? Are you at liberty to outline a basic plan here? Mr.Dante won't mind...me and him are dear friends.


 
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2006, 10:28:03 AM »
Hey Ron...

 I'm hitting shoulders tonite. How does one STRETCH shoulders in a DC way? Is it the same as 'ballistic stretching'? How do you DC a shoulder session? Are you at liberty to outline a basic plan here? Mr.Dante won't mind...me and him are dear friends.


 
hey eat a nice beaf sammich for me ;D.....hey did you use to workout at usa gym?

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2006, 10:33:57 AM »
I'm done guys. Some of you love to keep going back and forth with your "brutal, epic, pwned" crap, but I need to get to work. Have fun!
look good man keep it up..
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2006, 10:43:56 AM »
hey eat a nice beaf sammich for me ;D.....hey did you use to workout at usa gym?
Once in a while. When his gym was down the street in the bigger location. It's now in a smaller location but I do have to go there tomorrow to pick something up.

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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2006, 10:44:35 AM »
Hey Ron...

 I'm hitting shoulders tonite. How does one STRETCH shoulders in a DC way? Is it the same as 'ballistic stretching'? How do you DC a shoulder session? Are you at liberty to outline a basic plan here? Mr.Dante won't mind...me and him are dear friends.


 

copied and pasted from the original dog logg:

Shoulder stretch:
SHOULDERS: This one is tough to describe -- put a barbell in the squat rack shoulder height -- face away from it and reach back and grab it palms up (hands on bottom of bar) -- walk yourself outward until you are on your heels and the stretch gets painful -- then roll your shoulders downward and hold for 60 seconds.


basic shoulder routine would be a a movement where you can make the biggest strength gains on.  You can gain more on pressing movements over time than you can doing laterals.  Take a military presses, nice heavy weight and do the usual stuff.  8 reps, stop 15 deep breaths, 4 reps 15 deep breaths and then 2-4 more, you should fail on the last "mini set".  Next time you do the movement up the wieght or beat your reps with that weight.  Use your 3 favorite movements and rotate them, so your only doing one each workout.

after you reach positive failure, take a 10 second break and do a static hold, whre you start off at full extension and lower the weight about 6 inches and hold it until you cannot hold it up anymore, then stretch.
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Re: Hey Ron Harris, here's how you do real shoulder presses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2006, 10:59:52 AM »

 Hmmm...

 Okay so I'm gonna stretch the shit out of my delts...take about 5-10 minutes in actively stretching. Then I'm going to start with Smith Machine Front presses.

 Here's what a warmup would be like...plate a side for 10 reps...wait 60 seconds and stretch again...same weight for another 10. Focus on negative. Stretch again for a minute...plate and 25 a side...10 reps.

 1st set 2 plates a side...10 quality reps. Now 2 plates and 25 and a 5 a side...with a spotter with fingers on my elbows I will try to get 5 on my own with 2-3 fingertap ever so slight tap on the way up kind of spot. Then I'll rack it count to 20 and hit 3 more...rack it count to 15 and do 2-3 more...rack it count to 15 and do 2 more.

 I'll have my partner strip off the 25 and 5 off each side and I'll do 3 negative reps with 2 plates a side...8-10 second negative on each rep.

 Now take 2-3 minutes and stretch moderately again...then it's Nautilus laterals...60lbs for 8 reps(warmup) then I'll go with 100lbs for 10-12 reps, focus on the negative.

 Take 2 minutes and my final will be 130lbs for 7-9 quality reps and set it down...count to 20 and do 4-5 more...set it down count to 15 do 2-3 more set it down count to 10 and do 2 more. Then I'll count to 5 and do as many quater reps as I can until I can no longer do anymore...pure utter failure beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 How's that, natural_al? Ron?
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