HOW MUCH DOES A PUMP ADD TO MUSCLE SIZE?

[alexxx]

I noticed that with a quick 5 minute pump up I added 1/2 an inch on each arm. If I do that for 3 hours will that add more?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Depends some people 1/4 inch maybe upwards of an 1/2 inch !!

[alexxx]

Here is another question: Does a pump equal muscle growth or does the weight lifted make the muscle bigger?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here is another question: Does a pump equal muscle growth or does the weight lifted make the muscle bigger?

No a pump is just the influx of blood into the muscle casuing it to swell , tearing the muscle make it grow so the theory goes, you stretch the muscle beyond its capacity and it tears and when it recovers it grows back stronger and thicker .

[alexxx]

No a pump is just the influx of blood into the muscle casuing it to swell , tearing the muscle make it grow so the theory goes, you stretch the muscle beyond its capacity and it tears and when it recovers it grows back stronger and thicker .

What if you tear it without a pump but with maximum weight?

[Yorkie T]

No a pump is just the influx of blood into the muscle casuing it to swell , tearing the muscle make it grow so the theory goes, you stretch the muscle beyond its capacity and it tears and when it recovers it grows back stronger and thicker .

would a bigger pump help to stretch the fascia thus making it easier to build the muscle? i always thought this might be the case, thats why i always try and get a really good pump on the last set of a workout.

[NarcissisticDeity]

What if you tear it without a pump but with maximum weight?

You don't need a pump for muscles to grow , a lot of time people don't even get a pump all you need to do is work the muscle beyond its normal capacity.

[HERACLES]

They say a great pump is necesary for muscle growth...all the influx of nutrients and blood helps...so If your lifitng super heavy, but arent getting a good pump, this is not conducive to anabolism.

[NarcissisticDeity]

would a bigger pump help to stretch the fascia thus making it easier to build the muscle? i always thought this might be the case, thats why i always try and get a really good pump on the last set of a workout.

I don't think a pump would matter to growth , all that matters if you work the muscle beyond its normal capacity and the pump is just the result of blood rushing to the muscles , the key is to tear the muscle so it can rebuild itself stronger & thicker , because you can get a pump from isometrics but they don't do much in the way of building muscles .

[NarcissisticDeity]

They say a great pump is necesary for muscle growth...all the influx of nutrients and blood helps...so If your lifitng super heavy, but arent getting a good pump, this is not conducive to anabolism.

Tearing the muscle is necesary for muscle growth and muscle growth doesn't take place at the gym it takes place after the fact , getting the proper nutriants and rest coupled with overloading the muscle is necesary for growth.

[corinth]

There are big differences between "pumping" a  muscle, "exhausting" a muscle, and working a muscle to complete muscular "failure".

[NarcissisticDeity]

There are big differences between "pumping" a  muscle, "exhausting" a muscle, and working a muscle to complete muscular "failure".

Right !

[candidate2025]

I thought the muscle tears because there is soo much blood rushing into it? 

[figgs]

There are big differences between "pumping" a  muscle, "exhausting" a muscle, and working a muscle to complete muscular "failure".

The pump and exhaustion exist in a relationship with one another. The more exhausted the muscle, the greater the pump. And training to failure will achieve the best of both worlds.

[Debussey]

Your dick grows when blood flows into it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I thought the muscle tears because there is soo much blood rushing into it? 

No the muscle tears because its stressed beyond its normal capacity , if your biceps are only use to 175lbs berbell curls and you overload them by doing 195lbs in the same strict fashion your biceps become overloaded and tear and under the best set of circumstances , proper rest , nutrients , rest they would heal up ( being sore ) and grow stronger & thicker , until you reach a platue and everyone reaches a point where no matter how you try those muscles have reach thier maximum for growth.

[gh15]

I noticed that with a quick 5 minute pump up I added 1/2 an inch on each arm. If I do that for 3 hours will that add more?

no

pump =  +.25-.5  on each muscle worked
pump weight = 2-6lb  depends on what drugs youre  on and diet/water intake.
natural guys pump will be at ~ 2-3lb,,starting weight 180,,,end of work out weight = 182-183lb
any one who stays in the gym for over 60 min is a moron that likes to talk between sets.  what you didnt achieve within first 45min wont be achieved after 2 hours

[TheAnimal]

wow, so you can reach a point where muscles can no longer hypertrophy?
but how would that work... since the body's mechanism is to grow the muscle when repeated overloaded stimulus under the presence of hormones and nutrients.

[alexxx]

no

pump =  +.25-.5  on each muscle worked
pump weight = 2-6lb  depends on what drugs youre  on and diet/water intake.
natural guys pump will be at ~ 2-3lb,,starting weight 180,,,end of work out weight = 182-183lb
any one who stays in the gym for over 60 min is a moron that likes to talk between sets.  what you didnt achieve within first 45min wont be achieved after 2 hours

That's what lazy people say. Also the ones that don't place at a contest.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wow, so you can reach a point where muscles can no longer hypertrophy?
but how would that work... since the body's mechanism is to grow the muscle when repeated overloaded stimulus under the presence of hormones and nutrients.

Thats a good question but people reached that point of dead-end hypotheory and drugs helped overcome that problem but even with drugs there is just a point where it can't be done for whatever reason , limits to muscle cells I guess .

[Stubborn]

With the help of AAS there is almost no limits other than time and genetics. All that either of these will do is slow you down. If you are training effectively and dosing properly (for which there are many deciding factors) then you should be able to make gains until your old and brittle (time comes into play). If doing these things then most should never see their "limits."

[darksol]

Actually a pump does help growth, as you are forcing blood and nutrients into a muscle, this causes your body to create new pathways for blood to the region as it assumes this region needs an increased oxygen supply.  Just lifting alone doesn't always do this.  I try to make sure I get a pump when I workout, but I do it by pushing my muscles to absolute failure. 

[dontknowit]

Why spend time on pumping if you can do cardio?

Een couple of miles running makes the blood come everywhere, and improves your cardio-vasculair system a lot more than a set of infinity reps.

Pumping doesn't make the muscle grow, believe.

Check out the different types of musclefibers.

Type I
 Type II (or IIA)
  Type X (or IIB)

Nothing fancy, strictly science. Pumping (as in endless reps) activates type I, and that's a muscle with absolutely no growth-potential,
better to use a cardio session that makes active use of the muscle like swimming or crosstrainer.

[Old_Rooster]

No a pump is just the influx of blood into the muscle casuing it to swell , tearing the muscle make it grow so the theory goes, you stretch the muscle beyond its capacity and it tears and when it recovers it grows back stronger and thicker .

Also, a pump comes generally from repping, getting more blood to the arm.   Heavy lifting generally doesn't give you the same PUMP feeling but does much more to add growth.  Lesson:  You don't have to have a pump to mean you have had a good workout.
Actually no pump is usually better because that means you have pretty much lifted heavy and heavy weights equals growth always more than light weight does.

[BEAST 8692]

get on the floor and do 100 pushups. you will get a great pump, but you won't grow anywhere near the potential of heavy progressive weight training.

marines do pushups all day long. they must have massive chests right?