Hi Medford
I actually followed the whole Sally and Ray story when it happened and I have kept and eye on your thread.....
I was always impressed with Sally s strenght at the competitions they used to have for woman and I liked her as she came across alot.
But Sally and Ray where a violent couple full stop, BOTH of them.
And if a woman is strong enough to body slam a cop trying to arrest her, through a weight set out of a flat window and be so violent with her first Hubie that he had to get a restraining order against her, I am sorry she is no little china doll.
I have also been in a violent relationship, where I was stabbed with scissors, had mace sprayed in my face, had a hot water from a kettle thrown at me and was punched I don't know how many times by my girl friend of the time.
The weird thing was the 2 times I responded( I once punched her back and another time chocked her)I was treated as a piece of crap and she was this poor innocent little angel.
Oh Please!
Why did I stay with her, well I really did love her and she was truly remorsefull after every attack............the sex was also the best i have had ever

But there must be one set of rules for every one!
What you are doing know must apply to every one, man or woman, so if a guy does something to a nagging, emotional abusive, fishmonger wife then I better see every one trying to get him off as well.
Fair is fair.