Well, Pellius, bodybuilders don't need drugs. The professionals are lost souls so I don't count them. Who was an authority on hypertrophy there? The mindset that most Getbiggers have is distorted because they insist you need plenty of potent drugs to get large muscles. Guys have side effects or are dying and still this nonsense persists. This really is a ship of misguided fools. Maybe it was a good thing that the org sunk?