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« Reply #11150 on: August 05, 2020, 12:16:02 PM »
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« Reply #11151 on: September 03, 2020, 12:39:06 PM »
Hello getbiggers,

I just registered a while ago, but I read this forum for many many years, including this very topic here.

I want to say that gh15 was and is a very big thing in the bodybuilding modern history.
You guys could not have that vision since most of you I believe are from USA or Europe. That could explain why over the years and decades I see people doubting his knowledge.

But for you to have an idea of gh15 proportions, I will tell you a little about me:

I am from Brazil, I'm 29 years old now but I was used to hear about gh15 advices since I was like 16, long before I even knew english, since here is a very poor country, most of the population not even know how to speak our native language lol

That being said, please sorry my bad english, its not very good since I had to teach myself, very poor country lol


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« Reply #11152 on: September 03, 2020, 02:48:29 PM »


These guys lift weights and experiment with AAS?

Could have fooled me.  ;D

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« Reply #11154 on: September 03, 2020, 02:53:38 PM »
Hello getbiggers,

I just registered a while ago, but I read this forum for many many years, including this very topic here.

I want to say that gh15 was and is a very big thing in the bodybuilding modern history.
You guys could not have that vision since most of you I believe are from USA or Europe. That could explain why over the years and decades I see people doubting his knowledge.

But for you to have an idea of gh15 proportions, I will tell you a little about me:

I am from Brazil, I'm 29 years old now but I was used to hear about gh15 advices since I was like 16, long before I even knew english, since here is a very poor country, most of the population not even know how to speak our native language lol

That being said, please sorry my bad english, its not very good since I had to teach myself, very poor country lol

Welcome, your English is very good actually.  GH15 was born here and died here, we know what place he has in bodybuilding history.  He was entertaining and created a more "woke" group of people who never believed how drugs and bodybuilding went together.  It was a great time for a lot of us to be on this board, it was the best era of getbig.

I learned a lot about using GH and slin from his initial posts, he knew some interesting things.  Sadly, he's been gone for years now.

Good luck with you goals, don't kill yourself trying to get big.

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« Reply #11155 on: September 04, 2020, 04:35:25 AM »
Thank you for your reply my friend!

It is funny to see gh15 old posts and a lot of uses trying to make him sound delusional, but now that a lot of years has passed and many people end up seeing for themselves that every single detail he gave was in fact the "absolit truth"

like you said, you learned a lot from him, but I don't think that you guys have the vision that gh15 actually was responsible for the whole bodybuilding now a  days, at least in the countries i know of, like brazil and most of south america.

Even the new ones that not even know about gh15 existence, like a lot of friends that I met along the road, they were parroting the gh15 advices.

With that you have the ideia of how far he reached, meaning that at least 2 or 3 generations of bodybuilding were highly influenced by his words.

There was certain things that no one could know if he wasnt really a top pro.

For you guys is easy to not see gh15 propositions because you guys come from countries that had many other pros and gurus that knew how things were, even if for the public they lied, behind closed doors they knew how to get things done.

Now think for the rest of the word, we only had access of the public contents of theses guys or websites, meaning a lot of lies and unlike you, we couldn't met them behind closed doors.

The result? the majority of the rest of the world only know about gh15... take another big name like milos that were around same time gh15 was, 99% of people around here wouldn't even know who he is. The 1% left would only know him from pictures of competitions. No one don't even imagine that he gave advices too.

It wasnt a joke, when he said that he used his needle 100s of times, needles sales really dropped by half.
dealers made millions of bucks of gh15 advices, if he said trenbolone was the best, next day trenbolone were sold out and 10 times the price.

Brazil is no joke friends, thats why its a very poor country to begin with...

I really hope to see the input of the other members about how they see gh15 now a days...


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« Reply #11156 on: September 05, 2020, 03:05:02 PM »
Thank you for your reply my friend!

It is funny to see gh15 old posts and a lot of uses trying to make him sound delusional, but now that a lot of years has passed and many people end up seeing for themselves that every single detail he gave was in fact the "absolit truth"

like you said, you learned a lot from him, but I don't think that you guys have the vision that gh15 actually was responsible for the whole bodybuilding now a  days, at least in the countries i know of, like brazil and most of south america.

Even the new ones that not even know about gh15 existence, like a lot of friends that I met along the road, they were parroting the gh15 advices.

With that you have the ideia of how far he reached, meaning that at least 2 or 3 generations of bodybuilding were highly influenced by his words.

There was certain things that no one could know if he wasnt really a top pro.

For you guys is easy to not see gh15 propositions because you guys come from countries that had many other pros and gurus that knew how things were, even if for the public they lied, behind closed doors they knew how to get things done.

Now think for the rest of the word, we only had access of the public contents of theses guys or websites, meaning a lot of lies and unlike you, we couldn't met them behind closed doors.

The result? the majority of the rest of the world only know about gh15... take another big name like milos that were around same time gh15 was, 99% of people around here wouldn't even know who he is. The 1% left would only know him from pictures of competitions. No one don't even imagine that he gave advices too.

It wasnt a joke, when he said that he used his needle 100s of times, needles sales really dropped by half.
dealers made millions of bucks of gh15 advices, if he said trenbolone was the best, next day trenbolone were sold out and 10 times the price.

Brazil is no joke friends, thats why its a very poor country to begin with...

I really hope to see the input of the other members about how they see gh15 now a days...

gh15 was a clown who reposted shit he stole from dozens of others before him. he was a shill, nothing more. Milos has infinite more credibility.

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« Reply #11157 on: September 05, 2020, 05:56:12 PM »
gh15 was brilliant, never saw a more entertaining character on these forums. Laughed a lot reading his stuff. Definitely had personal experience on drugs and often had unique angles on bodybuilding matters. They were opinions you can't really form by "learning" from others' posts.
But if Nasser never had anything to do with the account, then no, he was not a Olympia competitor. Remember, Nasser wouldn't deny he was gh15 when asked by Chicherillo. So at the very least Nasser liked gh15's approach here and liked people thinking he was gh15. gh15's first posts were about Craig Titus after Craig was arrested and he really didn't like Craig, it sounded very "personal".

Read Nasser's interviews on bb.com and then read gh15. Many similarities. Like hating narcotics and giving people funny nicknames.

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« Reply #11158 on: September 05, 2020, 06:26:51 PM »
gh15 was brilliant, never saw a more entertaining character on these forums. Laughed a lot reading his stuff. Definitely had personal experience on drugs and often had unique angles on bodybuilding matters. They were opinions you can't really form by "learning" from others' posts.
But if Nasser never had anything to do with the account, then no, he was not a Olympia competitor. Remember, Nasser wouldn't deny he was gh15 when asked by Chicherillo. So at the very least Nasser liked gh15's approach here and liked people thinking he was gh15. gh15's first posts were about Craig Titus after Craig was arrested and he really didn't like Craig, it sounded very "personal".

Read Nasser's interviews on bb.com and then read gh15. Many similarities. Like hating narcotics and giving people funny nicknames.

always took that as someone knowingly copying Nasser, knowing people would pick up on the similarities and assume it was Nasser, as Nasser wasn't hard to imitate. hell, antione or frank mcgrath could've imitated nasser

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« Reply #11159 on: September 05, 2020, 06:30:38 PM »
Thank you for your reply my friend!

It is funny to see gh15 old posts and a lot of uses trying to make him sound delusional, but now that a lot of years has passed and many people end up seeing for themselves that every single detail he gave was in fact the "absolit truth"

like you said, you learned a lot from him, but I don't think that you guys have the vision that gh15 actually was responsible for the whole bodybuilding now a  days, at least in the countries i know of, like brazil and most of south america.

Even the new ones that not even know about gh15 existence, like a lot of friends that I met along the road, they were parroting the gh15 advices.

With that you have the ideia of how far he reached, meaning that at least 2 or 3 generations of bodybuilding were highly influenced by his words.

There was certain things that no one could know if he wasnt really a top pro.

For you guys is easy to not see gh15 propositions because you guys come from countries that had many other pros and gurus that knew how things were, even if for the public they lied, behind closed doors they knew how to get things done.

Now think for the rest of the word, we only had access of the public contents of theses guys or websites, meaning a lot of lies and unlike you, we couldn't met them behind closed doors.

The result? the majority of the rest of the world only know about gh15... take another big name like milos that were around same time gh15 was, 99% of people around here wouldn't even know who he is. The 1% left would only know him from pictures of competitions. No one don't even imagine that he gave advices too.

It wasnt a joke, when he said that he used his needle 100s of times, needles sales really dropped by half.
dealers made millions of bucks of gh15 advices, if he said trenbolone was the best, next day trenbolone were sold out and 10 times the price.

Brazil is no joke friends, thats why its a very poor country to begin with...

I really hope to see the input of the other members about how they see gh15 now a days...

Hey bro sounds like you really learned about bodybuilding from gh15.

Can you provide the statistics from needle sales dropping?

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« Reply #11160 on: September 05, 2020, 06:33:25 PM »
always took that as someone knowingly copying Nasser, knowing people would pick up on the similarities and assume it was Nasser, as Nasser wasn't hard to imitate. hell, antione or frank mcgrath could've imitated nasser

What happened to GH after Nasser passed?

Or what happened to him in general? He disappeared after he sold fake gear from his own website?

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« Reply #11161 on: September 05, 2020, 07:59:14 PM »
What happened to GH after Nasser passed?

Or what happened to him in general? He disappeared after he sold fake gear from his own website?

gh15 still has his board though it doesn't have the influence it once had. There use to be a time when other forums constantly made reference to his him and his board. Not so much anymore.

gh15 never had a website nor did he ever sell gear or peptides. He recommended various sources over the years but no one ever sent him money nor received any products from him.

When the rumors first came out about Nasser's death, gh15 contacted me (I was a mod on the gh15 board) to get in touch with "Sherif Shallaby" or something like that, who was on this board and a friend of Nasser whom Nasser would visit when he was in Egypt where Sherif lived. Sherif did indeed confirm Nasser's passing and was with Nasser the day before he died.

It would seem odd that gh15 would contact me in private to confirm his own death. gh15 was a Zionist and rabidly pro Israel and pro Jew and was very familiar with Israeli politics and it's religious traditions. Nasser was a Muslim, a religion he practiced and took more seriously in his later years.

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« Reply #11162 on: September 05, 2020, 08:14:31 PM »
gh15 still has his board though it doesn't have the influence it once had. There use to be a time when other forums constantly made reference to his him and his board. Not so much anymore.

gh15 never had a website nor did he ever sell gear or peptides. He recommended various sources over the years but no one ever sent him money nor received any products from him.

When the rumors first came out about Nasser's death, gh15 contacted me (I was a mod on the gh15 board) to get in touch with "Sherif Shallaby" or something like that, who was on this board and a friend of Nasser whom Nasser would visit when he was in Egypt where Sherif lived. Sherif did indeed confirm Nasser's passing and was with Nasser the day before he died.

It would seem odd that gh15 would contact me in private to confirm his own death. gh15 was a Zionist and rabidly pro Israel and pro Jew and was very familiar with Israeli politics and it's religious traditions. Nasser was a Muslim, a religion he practiced and took more seriously in his later years.
Loser. Confirmed

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« Reply #11163 on: September 05, 2020, 09:34:48 PM »
Loser. Confirmed

It's really breathtaking how utterly clueless you are in regard to the impression that you think you make on others. You really have no idea how you come off on this board and why you are so universally despised.

This is probably the most rational and reasonable description on you given by someone who specializes on these types of subjects and knows what he is talking about. I really wonder when you read something like this from someone who really has no dog in this fight if it gives you pause. A moment, even a brief moment, of self-reflection; or is the level of self-absorbed, malignant narcissism at such a level that it is far beyond you cognitive abilities.

You don’t have many real friends do you man? I get the sense that you literally live for the times when you get responses on this one website. It’s a dopamine high for you isn’t it man? People kind of ignore you in real life, and you know that women (of the non-eye gouging variety) are beyond out of reach. So it just feels good to get replies. It makes you feel respected.
I genuinely feel for you man. I wish you could see that you absolutely can improve your social skills. Other than the autistic types - social retardation is something that can be cured. And even easier - you don’t HAVE to look like Larry the Cable Guy.
I’m not being a dick here man - so DONT go trying to suck me - I’m really being serious.
Don’t let an anonymous place where no one really gives an actual fck be your comfort.

Anyway - been checking in far too often - but you are here always and it’s kind of my job to read people so....

Of course, a more simple, less cerebral, accessment is also quite apropos.

Get off your soapbox, fatty. You are not equal to any of us. You’re the white trash “fromunda” cheese of America that we scratch away in the shower every morning with a good handful of soap.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11164 on: September 06, 2020, 02:04:29 AM »
always took that as someone knowingly copying Nasser, knowing people would pick up on the similarities and assume it was Nasser, as Nasser wasn't hard to imitate. hell, antione or frank mcgrath could've imitated nasser

Possible, perhaps even probable. However I think gh15's style wouldn't be that easy to imitate precisely. The wordings indicated it was definitely a non-native English speaker, and certainly spoke certain Euro language(s) at least, and if the account changed hands constantly like people here claimed it would take multiple people who all had studied the style obsessively and could remember certain misspelled words and so on.
Lots of guys on here wrote replies as a joke imitating the style but it was always clear they couldn't copy the exact style. I mean, anyone here could attempt to write a long gh15 style post right in this thread to show how to exactly imitate the style, I don't think it would be that easy. Like use certain anglisized German non-words.
So no, Nasser most likely never wrote under that account but  I think there was some kind of link to Nasser - I admit I'd love to know who it was and what kind of links there were. :D
But no, I don't think just "anyone" could pull off a perfect imitation, certainly not Frank McGrath, dude seems like a moron with little command of language.

It would seem odd that gh15 would contact me in private to confirm his own death. gh15 was a Zionist and rabidly pro Israel and pro Jew and was very familiar with Israeli politics and it's religious traditions. Nasser was a Muslim, a religion he practiced and took more seriously in his later years.

Yes, however Nasser was a trickster character just like gh15.
Nasser spoke very highly of Joe Weider, a Jew, like Joe was the only moral man in bodybuilding. Nasser seemed to hate almost everyone, the critiques of guys like Milos and Greg Kovacs were extremely venomous. Nasser seemed like the type of guy who might BS you in a way that left you thinking you were friends but deep down he might think you were a piece of shit only out to use him. An interesting and intelligent man who probably was very funny, but a trickster.

Awhile ago I reread the 4 part Nasser interviews on bb.com, and damn, the takedowns of Milos, Kovacs and Palumbo were nasty. :D

First, see how he apparently told the interviewer he had posted here:
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I understand you yourself have spent some time viewing the message boards at Getbig.com and have even made a couple of posts to this forum. 


Quote from: Nasser
Have you ever seen the "Acromeglion" guest posing anywhere? He bears a strong resemblance to Cro-Magnon man and at best he resembles the former Egyptian Pharaoh, Akhenaten.

If you take a closer look from skull to toes then you can see that Jumbo Palumbo has to be renamed to Acromeglion. Without exaggerating, his feet look like flippers. I would guess he has at least a shoe size of 15 to 16. And his floppy toes, the excessively long pointy elbow "endings" and his now fortunately reduced stomach size (before it looked like he was about to, at any moment, give birth wherever he showed up).


Acromeglia.
When you see the Acromeglion standing it looks like somebody just had hit him in the hollows of his knees. His big toes are kind of pointing toward each other. And when you watch him walking then you can see that his huge feet almost hit his gigantic butt with each step. Palumbo's butt is even bigger than Flex Wheeler's butt when he was remotely in off season condition and being attacked by "ninjas". And to sum it up, you could indeed position a big glass of beer on top of both of their over-dimensional butts.

Palumbo's features are now worse than before because before he had so much more size. The abnormal growth of his bone endings could be better hidden before under greater size and mass and his feet could often be hidden in sneakers. Now, only his hydrocephalus is still as big as before when decade long "reigns of drugs" penetrated the sponge system of his body.

 Again, I do like the Acromeglion, as he is an interesting subject to study. He is definitely one of the all time most intelligent heads within the bodybuilding industry. Also it has to be said that Palumbo's IQ is so much higher than, for example, the DCM - regardless of the fact they were both drug dealers. One of the big differences in the end between them is that Milos got busted like Palumbo but DCM managed to get away in contrast to the multi times arrested Acromeglion with his fictitious ammunition.

Exhibit Three: The Acromeglion.

David Palumbo aka Jumbo Palumbo aka the Acromeglion is a brilliant-minded drug expert in regard to all pharmaceuticals currently found on planet earth. But as much mental capacity as he has, he deluded himself into thinking he could beat alien genetics with an over-accumulation and infestation of his body with anabolics and an additional 999 different drugs. All these drugs could not in the end prevent the animalistic appearance of his body, and with progressing time, his transformation into an almost indestructible acromegliac body type.

Palumbo definitely originally amplified the size of his initially "Ethiopian starving look" of the 130 pounds he started out with as a running skeleton, to the Herculean size of a top Acromeglion.

His exodus from the amateur contest stage was barely regretted by anyone. By working primarily now for MD as a Super-Adaptoid his wait and see policy should result in permanent retirement as a former stage performer with a rhinoceros looking rear end, his mega duck-like flippers and his bone ending proliferations.

The times of trying to look like an Adonis with Herculean dimensions are over but the Acromeglion as the avant-garde of a new species embodies true new development in the wrong bodybuilding direction. But at least it must be commended for no longer deceiving itself by remaining a victim of its self-created phantom. The body of the Acromeglion should be stored and used for scientific research purposes at a later date.

Nasser claimed to be very pro-gay, there was nothing wrong with it. This type of view does not align with a deeply muslim person. Or alternatively he just said things that worked in his favor at the moment. Did he really believe the bolded?

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The funny thing is that plenty of obviously confused Getbig.com people post nonsense and act pretty immature on the board. They again seem to be either in their puberty/teenage years or they are just plain dumb and do not have any clue what is going on in bodybuilding despite their "expertise". They do not have too much ammunition in general when it comes to the "Nasser" subject - the main subjects for them are "synthol" and some dumb "gay bashing": very infantile subjects.

By the way, the gay community comprises a third of adults' worldwide. My point here is not to discuss homosexuality (there is no reason for doing so) but being gay is not that uncommon, especially since we do not live in Nazi Germany or Iran. These gay bashers are the sick ones, not the gay people. So, even if some of my fans are gay, so what? Even if I was a gay person, which I am not: so what? Only low class people and uneducated/under-educated people make fun of gay people because they are mostly insecure about themselves and their own sexuality.

I personally find it very strange and weird if someone has a certain sexual preference but is acting differently because of "societal pressure" and is afraid to be him or herself. You do not have to overly and openly propagate your sexual agenda but you do not have to gay bash either. I say herewith in this subject matter addressed to the idiots on the posting boards, "Grow up or move to Iran." And by the way, I do have some very good gay friends myself.   

This is not a very islamic view. I know tons of muslims and not one has ever said homosexuality is okay. Certainly no one ever said it's okay from a religious viewpoint.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11165 on: September 08, 2020, 04:07:26 AM »
Hey bro sounds like you really learned about bodybuilding from gh15.

Can you provide the statistics from needle sales dropping?

Hello friend,
Sure I can try and explain to you how do I know about needle sales:

I don't remember the exact year that happened, keep in mind that in that year, as I mentioned, I didn't even knew about the getbig forum neither how to speak english.
I only knew about gh15 through friends who always talked about his advices.

In the time being I had 3 close friends that worked in drugstore (2 of them studied at my school and the other one I knew from the gym).

I remember the gym's friend hearing a group of friends and I talk about the needle thing gh15 had just said a while ago and he was shocked as he noted that in the last few days the drugstore that he worked had to cancel the monthly supply delivery of needles and syringes that they had coming on a regular basis.

That of couse could be just a coincidence if I havent had the other 2 friends at my school.
Then in the next day I asked these other friends about the needles sales and about gh15 advice. (I asked them separately that day, only later on we 3 got together to talk more about it.

The result was that every single one was shocked same as the first guy, they also saw that strange drop in sales and didn't knew what that cause was.

Only a few years later I learned how to speak english, found the getbig and started to read gh15 old posts.

The needle thing is just one thing I remembered to show you how far gh15 influenced people, even in these small detail that for what I saw here, people didn't seem to care much about what he said, at least years later when I read for myself of course. I don't know if some replies were deleted.

That being said, you can imagine that every single thing that gh15 said was being followed to the T.

I also remember reading gh15 saying things like that and people laughing thinking he was delusional (how far his advices reach, how the bodybuilders came here first thing in the morning to check out what was the last posts gh15 made...)


gh15 was brilliant, never saw a more entertaining character on these forums. Laughed a lot reading his stuff. Definitely had personal experience on drugs and often had unique angles on bodybuilding matters. They were opinions you can't really form by "learning" from others' posts.
But if Nasser never had anything to do with the account, then no, he was not a Olympia competitor. Remember, Nasser wouldn't deny he was gh15 when asked by Chicherillo. So at the very least Nasser liked gh15's approach here and liked people thinking he was gh15. gh15's first posts were about Craig Titus after Craig was arrested and he really didn't like Craig, it sounded very "personal".

Read Nasser's interviews on bb.com and then read gh15. Many similarities. Like hating narcotics and giving people funny nicknames.

Hello my great friend, it is an honor to have you here, gh15 liked you very much, I remember that he used to say that you were the most knowledgeable guy around.
I also remember that I saw him saying that after he was no longer here, you should be the guy we should listen to.

Indeed what you said is true, I remember seeing you replying his advices, that he gave hands on, most of the time he couldn't tell the causes, just the effects. Then you replied with your scientific knowledge and actually backed it up what he was trying to explain.

The drugs effects was what fascinated me the most, because not even the guys who had used the substances had observed what he said.

That meaning that he no only had the experience, but he was also very "femiliar" with the compounds and also very smart to note little details in the way they work.


Being you the most reliable source of gh15 wisdom, as god himself proclaimed you lol. Would mind to answer a question?

Since I see that even now a days there are people who doubt him, as we can see above, can you remember seeing gh15 saying something really off? something that really made you think that me could be fake?

I am asking this because I think its easy to fool someone like me, who relies on his information and pretty much everything I know came from his advices.
But someone like you, who even at the time being had the same level of knowledge as him, would be very hard to fool.

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« Reply #11166 on: September 08, 2020, 04:31:08 AM »
Ghcard, did you also notice any increase in sushi and pineapple juice consumption?

You're right about Van B. but he fell out of favor with gh15 because he wanted Van B to be a mod on his board. He even asked me to contact him directly. Van B still refused. It had something to do with censorship. It was like a slap on the face to gh15.

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« Reply #11167 on: September 08, 2020, 05:55:40 AM »
gh15 still has his board though it doesn't have the influence it once had. There use to be a time when other forums constantly made reference to his him and his board. Not so much anymore.

gh15 never had a website nor did he ever sell gear or peptides. He recommended various sources over the years but no one ever sent him money nor received any products from him.

When the rumors first came out about Nasser's death, gh15 contacted me (I was a mod on the gh15 board) to get in touch with "Sherif Shallaby" or something like that, who was on this board and a friend of Nasser whom Nasser would visit when he was in Egypt where Sherif lived. Sherif did indeed confirm Nasser's passing and was with Nasser the day before he died.

It would seem odd that gh15 would contact me in private to confirm his own death. gh15 was a Zionist and rabidly pro Israel and pro Jew and was very familiar with Israeli politics and it's religious traditions. Nasser was a Muslim, a religion he practiced and took more seriously in his later years.

Good info, thanks pelilius.

I think there were more rumors about GH15 after he left and started his board than there were when he was actively posting.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11168 on: September 08, 2020, 06:14:09 AM »

Being you the most reliable source of gh15 wisdom, as god himself proclaimed you lol. Would mind to answer a question?

Since I see that even now a days there are people who doubt him, as we can see above, can you remember seeing gh15 saying something really off? something that really made you think that me could be fake?


It depends on how you read what he wrote, did you take everything literally? Like the needle thing, it would be idiotic to think using the same needle 100 times is a good idea. I mean guys have used the same needle repeatedly but everyone knows it's stupid, even the guy doing it. Bostin Loyd said he reused needles because he would have to go throw them away more frequently otherwise, and because he is cheap, he knows it's stupid. And if someone says they reused a needle 100 times it's probably not literally a 100 times, just means that they occasionally reused them several times.

Or when gh15 said Kigtropin contained insulin, gh and igf-1. No that was not literally true but those with experience know this is a "story" and don't necessarily take it as fact.

So his stuff would have to be read a certain way. Kind of like you would think about Nasser's stories  :D Just because Nasser may have embellished things doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11169 on: September 08, 2020, 06:22:53 AM »
It depends on how you read what he wrote, did you take everything literally? Like the needle thing, it would be idiotic to think using the same needle 100 times is a good idea. I mean guys have used the same needle repeatedly but everyone knows it's stupid, even the guy doing it. Bostin Loyd said he reused needles because he would have to go throw them away more frequently otherwise, and because he is cheap, he knows it's stupid. And if someone says they reused a needle 100 times it's probably not literally a 100 times, just means that they occasionally reused them several times.

Or when gh15 said Kigtropin contained insulin, gh and igf-1. No that was not literally true but those with experience know this is a "story" and don't necessarily take it as fact.

So his stuff would have to be read a certain way. Kind of like you would think about Nasser's stories  :D Just because Nasser may have embellished things doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent.

needles cost pennies, why would you use them more than once?


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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11170 on: September 08, 2020, 06:26:10 AM »
Ghcard, did you also notice any increase in sushi and pineapple juice consumption?

You're right about Van B. but he fell out of favor with gh15 because he wanted Van B to be a mod on his board. He even asked me to contact him directly. Van B still refused. It had something to do with censorship. It was like a slap on the face to gh15.

Hello pellius, I don't know if you are making fun of me, if so I don't care, I'm just sharing the way things were in another country other than USA and Europe.

But if you are serius, In fact there was an increase in sushi consumption due to his recommendations.

Before you think I'm joking, keep in mind that here in Brazil we are an emerging country, even today we don't have a lot of what the rest of the world has.

For you to have an idea, it is just a few years ago that we had our first KFC.

With that in mind, you can imagine that more than a decade ago we did not have any sushi available nearby.
Of course there was sushi in brazil, but just in fancy restaurants that 90% of brazilians would never dream of eating, since a simple dinner would cost about half of the minimum wage (in around 2010 the minimun wage was about R$500 (reais, our currency) and a dinner in a sushi restaurant at the time would cost nothing less than R$250-300

Around the time gh15 started talking about the sushi thing, guess what happend? the sushi restaurants started to open in every corner, specially close to the gyms.
In fact even a owner of a gym that I went opened ah sushi restaurant during that time.

Today you can check out for yourself that here in brazil the sushi restaurants are the most popular foreign food around.
If you have the opportunity to one day come to brazil, pm me and I will gladly take you for dinner at one of those restaurants. I'm sure the first thing you will notice when you enter the place will be that 80% of the customers are gym rats.

about the pineapple, here we never had those little cans gh15 talked about. The reason is that in brazil we have almost any fruit in laaarge laaarge scale, so the real fresh pineapple is largely available, you can find it for about $1 a fruit that weighs about 1.5kg.

If you buy in bulk, like the distribuidos that sell box of fruits, you could get 20pinapples for about 0.3cents a piece.

bananas are about 0.5cents a pound in the supermarket 


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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11171 on: September 08, 2020, 06:45:06 AM »
It depends on how you read what he wrote, did you take everything literally? Like the needle thing, it would be idiotic to think using the same needle 100 times is a good idea. I mean guys have used the same needle repeatedly but everyone knows it's stupid, even the guy doing it. Bostin Loyd said he reused needles because he would have to go throw them away more frequently otherwise, and because he is cheap, he knows it's stupid. And if someone says they reused a needle 100 times it's probably not literally a 100 times, just means that they occasionally reused them several times.

Or when gh15 said Kigtropin contained insulin, gh and igf-1. No that was not literally true but those with experience know this is a "story" and don't necessarily take it as fact.

So his stuff would have to be read a certain way. Kind of like you would think about Nasser's stories  :D Just because Nasser may have embellished things doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent.

oh yeah, of course.

The needle thing I used as an example just to show how he was able to shift the opinions around any topic he talked about.

Of course after that big hit in the needles consumption I talked about, eventually people realize it was a stupid idea and started to buy again at the same rate. And I only knew that because I had inside information from my friends.

Another thing that people don't see to understand is that he talked about professional bodybuilding.
Some people don't realize that much of his advices don't apply to the gym rat, although it can help get there faster.

Meaning, a gym rat that want to be 185-190 6-7% dont need to be on GH and tren to achieve that and stay lean. You could pull it off with only AAS and good diet.
Of course 5ui GH and 100mg tren eod will put you there in no time with no effort, eating any shit you want, but that's not the point he tried to make.

What he tried to show is that there is no other way around being 220 5% other than massive and consistent use of ASS+GH+SLIN

That is my take on his advices, I could be looking the wrong way though, hope you guys tell me if it is the case.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11172 on: September 08, 2020, 06:55:45 AM »
oh yeah, of course.

The needle thing I used as an example just to show how he was able to shift the opinions around any topic he talked about.

Of course after that big hit in the needles consumption I talked about, eventually people realize it was a stupid idea and started to buy again at the same rate. And I only knew that because I had inside information from my friends.

Another thing that people don't see to understand is that he talked about professional bodybuilding.
Some people don't realize that much of his advices don't apply to the gym rat, although it can help get there faster.

Meaning, a gym rat that want to be 185-190 6-7% dont need to be on GH and tren to achieve that and stay lean. You could pull it off with only AAS and good diet.
Of course 5ui GH and 100mg tren eod will put you there in no time with no effort, eating any shit you want, but that's not the point he tried to make.

What he tried to show is that there is no other way around being 220 5% other than massive and consistent use of ASS+GH+SLIN

That is my take on his advices, I could be looking the wrong way though, hope you guys tell me if it is the case.
I have to disagree..............af ter hearing of some of the huge dosages and myriad of drugs used by a lot of people on GH15`s board for months and months then I see the pictures of said trainees and they looked like they never trained a day in their life.

I had to advise a lot of these guys to cut down on juice,train harder,and do more basic exercises............... .these guys were doing crossovers and concentration curls with no intensity and expecting to get huge because of the amount of gear they were on.

Most were skinny as a rail and looked like they never trained a day in their life.

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11173 on: September 08, 2020, 06:57:56 AM »
anyone got any Kigs for sale?  ;D

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Re: GH15 - Who is he? Is he a pro? Why believe him?
« Reply #11174 on: September 08, 2020, 06:58:01 AM »
I have to disagree..............af ter hearing of some of the huge dosages and myriad of drugs used by a lot of people on GH15`s board for months and months then I see the pictures of said trainees and they looked like they never trained a day in their life.

I had to advise a lot of these guys to cut down on juice,train harder,and do more basic exercises............... .these guys were doing crossovers and concentration curls with no intensity and expecting to get huge because of the amount of gear they were on.

Most were skinny as a rail and looked like they never trained a day in their life.

I got banned off his site for trying to help some poor guy that was on around 5gms of gear and they were all encouraging him..