'Kramer' Shocks Los Angeles Comedy Club Audience by Spewing Racial Slurs

[blinky]

He DID shut that ENTIRE mofo down though. I give him that. He closed the show! 

You could tell after he was done, he was like "it's over man!"

ya he thought it was over because most of the crowd got up and walked out

[scooter]

man that was the funniest thing i have seen in a long time. that guy has some huge balls

[pumpster]

man that was the funniest thing i have seen in a long time. that guy has some huge balls

He could be bigger after this..

[Earl1972]

He says, the dreaded, "...I'm not a racist, that's what is so insane."


Remember the "You might be a Redneck if..."

Well, "You might be a Racist if...you get angry at a heckler and called the person a racist name"

this doesn't mean he hates black people

if I call a short guy a midget when he insults me does that mean i hate short people?  no

race isn't any different

E

[24KT]

this doesn't mean he hates black people

if I call a short guy a midget when he insults me does that mean i hate short people?  no

race isn't any different

E

    

The only positive thing I can say about your comment is that if this level of ignorance (lack of understanding) of the implications of Richard's remarks by this generation is any indication... we really have come a long way. Not sure if it's a good thing or bad, ...but the lack of understanding is notably interesting. 

[Bigger Business]

fuckem

richards RULES!

[Earl1972]

   

The only positive thing I can say about your comment is that if this level of ignorance (lack of understanding) of the implications of Richard's remarks by this generation is any indication... we really have come a long way. Not sure if it's a good thing or bad, ...but the lack of understanding is notably interesting. 

explain to me how it's different

E

[Dos Equis]

explain to me how it's different

E

Earl I see a huge difference between a person who utters a racial epithet in the heat of an argument and Kramer's tirade.  Both scenarios raise the presumption that the person is a bigot IMO, but Kramer's lynching comments were way over the top.  I don't think a person makes the comments Kramer did, in the manner in which he did, unless he or she is a bigot.   

[24KT]

explain to me how it's different

E

If you don't know the difference between poking fun at a guy's height, ...and implying that 600 yrs of slavery, legislated oppression, legislated lynchings, raping & pillaging was appropriate then you have some serious problems. Because that's what it represents. And to purposely bring up the memory of that, and shove it in their faces, for saying he's not funny, indicates a man with some very deep seated and disguised hostilities.

He claimed "I'm not a bigot, but it just gushes forth from me" What's his next excuse ...Tourettes? 

The people who lived through and saw regular afternoon lynchings after Church service, know all too well the legacy that is steeped in that label. For you to see it as just a word without the baggage it does infact carry is shortsighted & ignorant, and reflects your lack of awareness.

To tell the guy to shut up 50 yrs ago he would have been hanging upside down with a fork up his ass, so he should be silent and not interrupt a white man is to conjure up ghosts from the past that should be well & buried. It does not even compare to telling a guy he is short.

[Sljck-NjnjaRjder]

If you don't know the difference between poking fun at a guy's height, ...and implying that 600 yrs of slavery, legislated oppression, legislated lynchings, raping & pillaging was appropriate then you have some serious problems. Because that's what it represents. And to purposely bring up the memory of that, and shove it in their faces, for saying he's not funny, indicates a man with some very deep seated and disguised hostilities.

He claimed "I'm not a bigot, but it just gushes forth from me" What's his next excuse ...Tourettes? 

The people who lived through and saw regular afternoon lynchings after Church service, know all too well the legacy that is steeped in that label. For you to see it as just a word without the baggage it does infact carry is shortsighted & ignorant, and reflects your lack of awareness.

To tell the guy to shut up 50 yrs ago he would have been hanging upside down with a fork up his ass, so he should be silent and not interrupt a white man is to conjure up ghosts from the past that should be well & buried. It does not even compare to telling a guy he is short.

I have been thinking about this for a couple days now and I have come to one basic conclusion:

We are unable--in our society today--to voice in public every single thought that comes across our brain.  This is the very reason that this episode is very public.  What I mean is that you are not allowed to say certain things in public, and the topics brought up by Richards happen to be on those list of things in our society. 

E.g.  you cannot run into a room and yell "Fire!", you can't tell someone "there is a bomb in my backpack", I would go to jail if I told someone I would kill them or hurt them in anyway.  I can't even tell that girl down the hall what I think of doing to her when she wears those leather boots and short skirt. 

That is the society in which we live, Richards has to understand this since he has lived in it for so long, but he misspoke.  It is too bad it was an ingredious and very touching misstep.  If I was him, I would work on becoming a better standup comic and learn how to combat the "talking crowd" and making fun of them in a more proffesional manner.

Therefore, speaking your mind is okay....not okay with certain key subjects and certain places. 

Fair dinkum.

[brianX]

If you don't know the difference between poking fun at a guy's height, ...and implying that 600 yrs of slavery, legislated oppression, legislated lynchings, raping & pillaging was appropriate then you have some serious problems. Because that's what it represents. And to purposely bring up the memory of that, and shove it in their faces, for saying he's not funny, indicates a man with some very deep seated and disguised hostilities.

He claimed "I'm not a bigot, but it just gushes forth from me" What's his next excuse ...Tourettes? 

The people who lived through and saw regular afternoon lynchings after Church service, know all too well the legacy that is steeped in that label. For you to see it as just a word without the baggage it does infact carry is shortsighted & ignorant, and reflects your lack of awareness.

To tell the guy to shut up 50 yrs ago he would have been hanging upside down with a fork up his ass, so he should be silent and not interrupt a white man is to conjure up ghosts from the past that should be well & buried. It does not even compare to telling a guy he is short.

Monster exaggerations and distortions.

[Earl1972]

If you don't know the difference between poking fun at a guy's height, ...and implying that 600 yrs of slavery, legislated oppression, legislated lynchings, raping & pillaging was appropriate then you have some serious problems.

short people have been discriminated, disrespected and shit on in every way since the beginning of time and that will never ever change

some day people might not even notice or care about skin color but short people will always be looked down on literally and figuratively

get over the past already things aren't like that anymore

it's not like these hecklers were just sitting in a corner minding their own business when all of a sudden kramer attacked them with racial remarks

90% of the time they bring it on themselves

E

[ARMZ]

If only he said "nigg....a"  Maybe he didn't know only black people can say that. He hears the blacks calling the whitey cracker in their comedy acts all day long.. 

[kh300]

maybee jerry took his spare apartment key again.

[Dos Equis]

Uh oh. 

Richards' Rant -- Not The First Time
Posted Nov 22nd 2006 2:10PM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Train Wrecks, TV

Did Michael Richards attack the Jews? Two Los Angeles residents have come forward and said that's exactly what happened last Spring at L.A. comedy club, The Improv.

Carol Oschin and J.P. Fillet say they were at The Improv on April 22 when Richards took the stage. They say that in the middle of Richards' skit, a man in the audience said something to the comedian, when Richards allegedly launched into an anti-Semitic rant. According to Oschin, Richards screamed at the audience member, "You f***ing Jew. You people are the cause of Jesus dying."


Oschin says the rant continued and Richards stormed off the stage. Oschin and Fillet say that, at first, they thought Richards' tirade was part of his act, but claim that it quickly became apparent it was not.

Richards' publicist, Howard Rubenstein, confirmed to TMZ that Richards did make derogatory comments about Jews, but says it was part of his act. Rubenstein says Richards told him, "I'm not anti-Semitic. I was playing a role and poking fun at the rednecks."

http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/22/richards-rant-not-the-first-time/

[OneBigMan]

All those ameriblacks and african-americans and black americans should try and tell their own people to publicly appologize for using their N word(I'll spell it backwards Z A G G I N)after it was coined as a good ol' catch phrase by the rapper hip-hoppers on the urban streets.

If all those people acted very brown and rarely black then I wouldn't have to talk about the R word after the year 2000.

[Earl1972]

why do people like gloria allred ignore the fact that these guys called kramer a cracker?

E

[240 is Back]

why do people like gloria allred ignore the fact that these guys called kramer a cracker?

More importantly was their impled threat they were going to their vehicles then return to "show him what's up now".

Would this mean anything BUT a weapon?

[Earl1972]

i saw their interview and they said it was a good thing they weren't close to the stage or else they would've had to "throw down"

E

[Dos Equis]

Gloria Allred is the most irritating person in the country.  She should never have access to a microphone or camera. 

[Faust]

Man, this is getting hyped.

Imo, Kramer was wrong, and his burst shows that he has predjudices.
But, the other guy also called him "cracker", which nobody talks about. And this media attention shows the double standard. Had the comedian been from a minority, nobody would have cared. A lot blacks use the N-word (or other racial/cultural slurs) all the time, nobody objects.

I'm not defending Kramer, he was utterly wrong and not funny at all. But this episode shows a lot of things that are going wrong in America.

[24KT]

Do you even know what a cracker is, ...and where the term came from?

No, it's not something the holds your caviar or gets crumbled in soup 

Back on Florida plantations, the overseers who intimidated, harrassed, bullied, and meted out punishment to slaves, did so with a whip that made a harsh cracking noise. These sadistic, intimidating bullies became known as crackers, because they cracked the whips.

Calling someone a cracker is not saying they are as pale as a Mr. Christies unsalted soup cracker,
...it is saying they are like the overseer with the whip.  Did Kramer spout off like a cracker? Clearly he did.

[Hugo Chavez]

Do you even know what a cracker is, ...and where the term came from?

No, it's not something the holds your caviar or gets crumbled in soup 

Back on Florida plantations, the overseers who intimidated, harrassed, bullied, and meted out punishment to slaves, did so with a whip that made a harsh cracking noise. These sadistic, intimidating bullies became known as crackers, because they cracked the whips.

Calling someone a cracker is not saying they are as pale as a Mr. Christies unsalted soup cracker,
...it is saying they are like the overseer with the whip.  Did Kramer spout off like a cracker? Clearly he did.

jag, I'm curious why you might think hardly any whites are upset about being called cracker?

[24KT]

jag, I'm curious why you might think hardly any whites are upset about being called cracker?

I didn't say that.

I said based on the definition of the term, he was acting like a cracker, ...not like a white person, ...like a cracker.

Anyone who would have had him turned upside down with a fork up his ass, is not a typical white person, but a cracker, ...those who meted out the punishment.

But since you bring it up... I don't think many whites are offended by the term cracker, and if so, certainly not to the degree that the N- word offends Blacks. If I am mistaken, I apologize. No malice intended, just a reflection of my lack of awareness on this front.  Would you be horrifically offended if called a cracker?

I doubt many whites could be as offended because the term cracker is simply a name that has never been a legislated instrument for their oppression.

[24KT]

Would you be offended if I called you an America-bashing uppety c unt?

GO F**K YOURSELF!

ps - don't be offended, ...just following your instructions 
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