90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police

[G o a t b o y]

you forgot, "no being a pyramid schemer".

[Puller]

you forgot, "no being a pyramid schemer".

HAHAHAHAHA


How about no stealing back the Sankara stones from the Maharajah of Pankot. Even if it is to save a village.

[gtbro1]

Everyone knows how the police "announce" themselves when serving a search warrant.   They bang on the door,yell "POLICE! SEARCH WARRANT" and then immediately bash the door in with a battering ram. So don't try and give me this shit that they announced they were police. Of coarse if she was shooting at them they had no choice but to defend themselves,so in that regards I suppose the shooting was justified(sort of  ?) but the police are the ones responsible because THEY SHOULD KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT    that they have the correct location before they do one of their GUNG HO,bash the door in search warrants.
  They no doubt will not be punished by the law,however,they have to live with themselves and I hope they are miserable over this.

[NeoSeminole]

"Atlanta Police Asst. Chief Alan Dreher said at a news conference Wednesday that an undercover officer made a drug purchase at Johnston's address late Tuesday afternoon from a male suspect. Officers were able to obtain a search warrant after that.

Dreher said as the officers were executing the search warrant, the officers announced themselves and then forced open the door. Officials said the warrant was a "No Knock" warrant -- meaning that the officers did not knock before forcing open the door, but they did announce themselves.

Dreher said as soon as the officers forced open the door, Johnston shot at the officers and the officers returned fire to protect themselves. One officer was shot 3 times -- once in the leg, on the side of the face and once in his bulletproof vest. One officer was hit in the leg and another hit in their arm.

Dreher said a marked patrol vehicle was parked in front of the residence and the word "Police" was written across the front and back of the narcotics team's vests. He also said only a matter of minutes passed between when officers arrived at the scene and when they forced open the door."

http://www.local6.com/news/10379029/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

[240 is Back]

weird story.  sounds like her grandson was making meth and she got stupid.  Or, they made up a good story quick.

[gtbro1]

"Atlanta Police Asst. Chief Alan Dreher said at a news conference Wednesday that an undercover officer made a drug purchase at Johnston's address late Tuesday afternoon from a male suspect. Officers were able to obtain a search warrant after that.

Dreher said as the officers were executing the search warrant, the officers announced themselves and then forced open the door. Officials said the warrant was a "No Knock" warrant -- meaning that the officers did not knock before forcing open the door, but they did announce themselves.

Dreher said as soon as the officers forced open the door, Johnston shot at the officers and the officers returned fire to protect themselves. One officer was shot 3 times -- once in the leg, on the side of the face and once in his bulletproof vest. One officer was hit in the leg and another hit in their arm.

Dreher said a marked patrol vehicle was parked in front of the residence and the word "Police" was written across the front and back of the narcotics team's vests. He also said only a matter of minutes passed between when officers arrived at the scene and when they forced open the door."

http://www.local6.com/news/10379029/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

Like I said,everyone knows how they announce and then bash in the door as soon as they say it.No doubt this is to  prevent someone from having time to escape/arm themselves or what have you.The error wasn't in the fact that they were forced to defend themselves;It was the fact they were  apparently at the wrong place.(this is my understanding from this thread)The woman would not be dead if they had not gone there by mistake.
   One thing that does seem weird.Why would a 90 year old woman open fire on the police? That just seems strange to me.It isn't the way you would expect an old woman to behave,even if someone barged into her house.

[NeoSeminole]

Like I said,everyone knows how they announce and then bash in the door as soon as they say it.No doubt this is to  prevent someone from having time to escape/arm themselves or what have you.The error wasn't in the fact that they were forced to defend themselves;It was the fact they were  apparently at the wrong place.(this is my understanding from this thread)The woman would not be dead if they had not gone there by mistake.
One thing that does seem weird.Why would a 90 year old woman open fire on the police? That just seems strange to me.It isn't the way you would expect an old woman to behave,even if someone barged into her house.

An undercover officer purchased drugs from a male at the old woman's residence. The article also states that suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but police are awaiting lab results to confirm that. Let's assume that it turns out the police had the wrong address. This doesn't change the fact that the elderly woman opened fire on the officers. One officer was shot 3 times. Another was hit in the leg and yet another was hit in their arm. They announced themselves before they entered and were wearing bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across both the front and back. There is no way the woman could have pulled off at least 5 shots (only counting the ones that landed) and still mistaken them for robbers, especially with the word "Police" written across the front and back of their vests.

[24KT]

weird story.  sounds like her grandson was making meth and she got stupid.  Or, they made up a good story quick.

She had no kids. Her closest relative was her 75 yr. old neice who bought her the house. She lived there alone for the past 12 yrs.

I really don't see what the police car sitting out front has to do with anything. If someone is breaking in your door, ...you're not going to stop to run outside to see what kind of a ride they came in.

And what's to stop ANYONE from claiming to be cops trying to effect an arrest warrant. Any cop coming into my home claiming to have a warrant, had better knock on my door, and show me that warrant or convince me they are infact police officers, before s/he gets my co-operation.

And let's not kid ourselves, warrants are often executed in different manners, in different neighbourhoods.

[24KT]

An undercover officer purchased drugs from a male at the old woman's residence. The article also states that suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but police are awaiting lab results to confirm that. Let's assume that it turns out the police had the wrong address. This doesn't change the fact that the elderly woman opened fire on the officers. One officer was shot 3 times. Another was hit in the leg and yet another was hit in their arm. They announced themselves before they entered and were wearing bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across both the front and back. There is no way the woman could have pulled off at least 5 shots (only counting the ones that landed) and still mistaken them for robbers, especially with the word "Police" written across the front and back of their vests.

Maybe in Toronto, because police uniforms are hard to come by, ...but in the USA, ANYONE can purchase a police uniform. Just about every professional working actor in NYC owns their own NYPD uniform. and at 92, who says she can see well enough to read.

I just think it's horrible that the police went there to arrest a late 20's early 30 something man, and a 92 yr old woman is dead, and they are hospitalized. One of those cops got shot in the face!   That's a horrible outcome.

[gtbro1]

 . Let's assume that it turns out the police had the wrong address. This doesn't change the fact that the elderly woman opened fire on the officers. One officer was shot 3 times. Another was hit in the leg and yet another was hit in their arm.

 I agree. I said that they had no choice but to defend themselves. I did not know about the under cover drug buy at that house. I was under the impresion that they were there by mistake....But as far as the announcing goes give me a break. DO they or Do they not,yell "POLICE ! SEARCH WARRANT," about a half second before they bash in the door? I am not saying that is a bad thing,if they are 100% sure that they have a legit reason to be there.They for sure would not want to give someone time to escape,arm themselves or perhaps flush dope down the toilet...all I am saying is that split second warning is not enough to keep someone from being alarmed.
  I am thinking that this little old lady probably wasn't so Innocent.Maybe she was trying to protect her son or something..The way this thread started it was made out like the cops busted into the completely wrong place and scared her and she shot at them.( I believe it was called A case of mistaken identity)Evidentally there is much more to it than that.

[amc1980]

weird story.  sounds like her grandson was making meth and she got stupid.  Or, they made up a good story quick.

Hmmm! So you are saying this could be some kind of conspiracy?

[240 is Back]

yep - ppl do use fake badges to gain entrance. when the cops knock on my door, i always make sure i see there are a group in a well lit area and that I can see their car.  I used to live in a high crime area and they'd be knocking frequently and it was always the same thing - ppl don't wanna ip en their door up to the law.

One time, I heard a pounding (guy upstairs was smacking his woman and they came to our door.  I ran outta my room in the middle of the night racking the glock.  The cop at the door (my brother had already answered) - his eyes got HUGE as he sees this guy running out in boxer shots and that familiar racking of the piece.  I saw them and very slowly put it down and came over and chatted with them.  They had no problem, we all actually laughed about it (cop said he nearly shit himeself when he saw a half dressed guy running out racking a handgun) but that shit like that can happen when it's dark, people are confused, and cops came outta nowhere.

if I had lived near a UCLA campus, I might have caught a bullet for racking a gun that day.  Luckily down here, it's a bunch of good old boys and 1 in 10 cars has a pistol anyway.   You see so many waist and hup bulges you can pretyt much tell who is a 1911, who is a glock man, who is a sig man based upon their shirt printing

[24KT]

Hmmm! So you are saying this could be some kind of conspiracy?

Oh Puleaze! Like a cop wouldn't do that to cover his ass? An accidental shooting has gotta be a one of a cops worst nightmares, ...and a 92 yr old granny to top it off. I wouldn't consider it farfetched for cops to try to head of a PR nightmare, and save a few good men from going down. Think about it.

She shot at THEM, they discharged in self-defense, ...yet who the heck wants to be in that situation?

mistakes happen, ...and sometimes those mistakes are covered up, or compensated for.

[latman]

It's that cocked up liberal order of the world you Yanks adopted.  Bush and his new liberal passonate Conservative beliefs. You all do know those neo Conservatives are liberals! First your OSS metling over the years gets Britain on commie lockdown now you Yanks have cops gone wild.  You can keep it.

[latman]

Lacky!

[NeoSeminole]

and at 92, who says she can see well enough to read.

apparently she could see well enough to shoot one officer 3 times and 2 others, once each.

[gtbro1]

apparently she could see well enough to shoot one officer 3 times and 2 others, once each.

hahahaha  just think what would have happened if she COULD see.

[24KT]

apparently she could see well enough to shoot one officer 3 times and 2 others, once each.

Touché... but clearly not well enough to make it count... or she'd be alive today.

I'm not an advocate for shooting or killing the police, ...but if you're going to shoot at an armed cop,
you darn well better make sure you toast him ...on the first shot, ...cause he's fer sure gonna kill you.

[latman]

Touché... but clearly not well enough to make it count... or she'd be alive today.

I'm not an advocate for shooting or killing the police, ...but if you're going to shoot at an armed cop,
you darn well better make sure you toast him ...on the first shot, ...cause he's fer sure gonna kill you.

are you FRENCH

[24KT]

are you FRENCH

...sometimes. 

[amc1980]

If that picture doesn't scream drug "Kingpin", I don't know what does?

[NeoSeminole]

[Dos Equis]

Uh oh. 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/27/atlanta.shooting/index.html

[Stark]

first off I think the old bat did surprisingly well  .... how many times did I watch Cops and none of these poor fuckers come even close to what she was capable of WITH 90 FUCKIN YEARS.
I mean think how embarrassing that must be for the cops, they get SHOT and HIT by a 90 YEAR OLD lol.

[24KT]

In an update to this story, 3 cops are being charged with MURDER.

Turns out, they LIED to a judge in order to receive the 'no-knock' warrant.

An officer DID NOT infact purchase cocaine at the home, as he had stated to obtain the warrant to begin with. He was instead 'told' by an 'informant' (aka police snitch) that drugs were being sold at the house.

One of the officers could also be charged with perjury. 
Officials now want to look into both when, as well as how often a 'no-knock' warrant should be used.

I guess this means that all of you who instantly jumped to conclusions about the granny, as well as her grandson (even tho she didn't have any kids) need to rethink your thought processes as well as how and why you come to some of the conclusions you come to.