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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2007, 03:11:30 AM »
An undercover officer purchased drugs from a male at the old woman's residence. The article also states that suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but police are awaiting lab results to confirm that. Let's assume that it turns out the police had the wrong address. This doesn't change the fact that the elderly woman opened fire on the officers. One officer was shot 3 times. Another was hit in the leg and yet another was hit in their arm. They announced themselves before they entered and were wearing bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across both the front and back. There is no way the woman could have pulled off at least 5 shots (only counting the ones that landed) and still mistaken them for robbers, especially with the word "Police" written across the front and back of their vests.

No drugs were found in the home. The officers lied to obtain the warrant, and are now being charged with MURDER.
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2007, 04:35:48 AM »
No drugs were found in the home. The officers lied to obtain the warrant, and are now being charged with MURDER.

   A COP LIED...imagine that.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2007, 05:07:41 AM »


Dear, "gun-toting" Granny (and Jag).


I am truly sorry I ever doubted your innocence.



I have a sore throat today, so I am feeling your pain. If that's any consolation?



All the best,


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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2007, 07:38:19 AM »
In an update to this story, 3 cops are being charged with MURDER.

Turns out, they LIED to a judge in order to receive the 'no-knock' warrant.

An officer DID NOT infact purchase cocaine at the home, as he had stated to obtain the warrant to begin with. He was instead 'told' by an 'informant' (aka police snitch) that drugs were being sold at the house.

One of the officers could also be charged with perjury. 
Officials now want to look into both when, as well as how often a 'no-knock' warrant should be used.

I guess this means that all of you who instantly jumped to conclusions about the granny, as well as her grandson (even tho she didn't have any kids) need to rethink your thought processes as well as how and why you come to some of the conclusions you come to.  8)

So what happened to innocent until proven guilty?  [being sarcastic]

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2007, 02:22:40 PM »


If that picture doesn't scream drug "Kingpin", I don't know what does?

Surprised I missed this the first time around, but... that picture screams "Queen for a Day!"

It's not unusual in some cultures to honour and revere family matriarchs, ...especially in African American culture.
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2007, 10:20:33 PM »
AMC1980 & NeoSeminole you both have egg all over their faces  >:(


Two Cops Plead Guilty in Fatal Shooting
Elderly Woman Slain by Police During Botched Raid
By HARRY R. WEBER, AP

ATLANTA (April 26) --
Two police officers pleaded guilty Thursday to federal and state charges, including manslaughter, in the death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid in which 39 gunshots were fired into her home and marijuana was planted there to cover up the crime.

A third officer still faces charges in the woman's death.

Officer J.R. Smith told a state judge that he regretted what had happened.

"I'm sorry," the 35-year-old said, his voice barely audible. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation, making false statements and perjury, which was based on untrue claims in a no-knock warrant obtained to enter Kathryn Johnston's home on Nov. 21.

Former Officer Gregg Junnier, 40, who retired from the Atlanta police force in January, pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation and making false statements.

In a hearing Thursday afternoon in federal court, each man pleaded guilty to a single charge of conspiracy to violate a person's civil rights, resulting in death.

U.S. Attorney David Nahmias told The Associated Press the recommended federal sentence for Junnier will be 10 years and one month in prison.

He said the recommended federal sentence for Smith would be 12 years, seven months.

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Methinks the woman's neice is about to get rich courtesy of the city of Atlanta!  :)
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2007, 03:44:48 AM »
yawn, this incident happened over 5 months ago. The information provided in the latest article contradicts what was said before and therefore, should not be factored as part of our previous discussion. I simply went by the "facts" given to me at the time as any rational person would do. How the f*ck was I supposed to know the police shot a 90 yr old woman for no reason and then planted marijuana in her house to cover up?

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #82 on: April 27, 2007, 05:56:32 AM »
what sucks too is some civil rights guy is wanting her to be declared a hero?  WTF a hero.  stupid asses. 

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #83 on: April 30, 2007, 12:39:16 AM »
what sucks too is some civil rights guy is wanting her to be declared a hero?  WTF a hero.  stupid asses. 

She's a martyr that exposes police misconduct. For some that makes her a hero.
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #84 on: April 30, 2007, 12:54:04 AM »
yawn, this incident happened over 5 months ago. The information provided in the latest article contradicts what was said before and therefore, should not be factored as part of our previous discussion. I simply went by the "facts" given to me at the time as any rational person would do. How the f*ck was I supposed to know the police shot a 90 yr old woman for no reason and then planted marijuana in her house to cover up?

But you sure swallowed the manure they gave out for public consumption without questioning any of the discrepancies or unusual circumstances tho didn't you?

Hey Neo, ...I bet it's gotta burn you that 'conspiracy boy' pegged it right from the start. huh?  ;D
A quick story trying to cover their butts. Does anyone even question how or why they would have marijuana on them to even plant to try to further incriminate the victim? Were they already stoned when they got there? Did they just smoke a blunt, and use their left overs to plant? What was the mysterious substance they removed from the premises to test to see if it was cocaine? Was it infact the all-purpose flour she used when baking bread? Enquiring minds want to know?
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #85 on: April 30, 2007, 12:59:19 AM »
She's a martyr that exposes police misconduct. For some that makes her a hero.

No, that makes her dead... there is nothing heroic there.

Now, if she had shot one of them when they busted in her house for no reason, THEN I'd call her a hero.

She has to do something to be heroic... She didn't get that chance.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #86 on: April 30, 2007, 01:18:34 AM »
Surprised I missed this the first time around, but... that picture screams "Queen for a Day!"

It's not unusual in some cultures to honour and revere family matriarchs, ...especially in African American culture.



i dont think its that deep, looks more like a picture for humor, hence her smile.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #87 on: April 30, 2007, 07:49:46 AM »


I say they were justified in the shooting...under NO circumstances should it be allowed for someone to shoot at the police.  I bet Rev Sharpton and Jesse jackson got involved too saying that race was involved and they were picking on her cause she was black...at least when they shot her they made sure they killed her.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #88 on: April 30, 2007, 07:52:01 AM »
She's a martyr that exposes police misconduct. For some that makes her a hero.

horse poop!  Besides she was 90, almost dead anyway.  Seems like most of these civil rights people are more about showing their mugs on camara acting like idjits than, well civil rights.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #89 on: April 30, 2007, 10:00:37 AM »
You're so fvcking biased.

The old bag starts shooting at the police; the police shoot back and somehow it's the police's fault?

It'll teach her to get so trigger-happy.


if some plain clothed people burst into your house ya wouldn't shoot? what kinda man r you? ya wouldn't protect your family?

..i would..
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2007, 09:26:43 PM »
But you sure swallowed the manure they gave out for public consumption without questioning any of the discrepancies or unusual circumstances tho didn't you?

ha ha ha ha, nukka please! What discrepancies? Now you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

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Hey Neo, ...I bet it's gotta burn you that 'conspiracy boy' pegged it right from the start. huh?

not really. Some 90 yr old lady who opened fire on police is dead. Whoop-tee-doo. It's inconsequential to me whether the officers planted the marijuana afterwards or not. That still doesn't take away from the fact that she shot at them multiple times. If you pull a gun on a police officer, you can expect to get shot at.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2007, 09:37:13 PM »
if some plain clothed people burst into your house ya wouldn't shoot? what kinda man r you? ya wouldn't protect your family?

..i would..

The officers announced themselves before entering and wore bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across the front and back. Now call me crazy but if a bunch of men wearing vests with "Police" written on them burst into my house all of a sudden, the last thing I would do is open fire.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2007, 09:39:57 PM »
ha ha ha ha, nukka please! What discrepancies? Now you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

Are you trying to say that the way the entire thing went down didn't strike you as the least bit odd? ???

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not really. Some 90 yr old lady who opened fire on police is dead. Whoop-tee-doo. It's inconsequential to me whether the officers planted the marijuana afterwards or not. That still doesn't take away from the fact that she shot at them multiple times. If you pull a gun on a police officer, you can expect to get shot at.

You don't give a crap about Nazi storm troopers busting into someone's house with guns, ...after lying to a judge to get a warrant, bearing false witness and victimizing the very citizens they swore an oth to serve & protect? ???

How misaligned is YOUR moral compass? Wait 'til that happens to you, ...ya I know,
...it could never happen to you, ...cause you don't break the law right? ...neither did granny.  ::)
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2007, 10:11:45 PM »
Are you trying to say that the way the entire thing went down didn't strike you as the least bit odd?

nope. The officers believed drugs were being sold at the house. When they entered the residence, they were met with gun fire. The police responded how any officer would - return fire. Why would this strike me as odd?

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You don't give a crap about Nazi storm troopers busting into someone's house with guns, ...after lying to a judge to get a warrant, bearing false witness and victimizing the very citizens they swore an oth to serve & protect?

are you a minority by any chance?

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2007, 09:01:41 AM »
The officers announced themselves before entering and wore bullet proof vests with the word "Police" written across the front and back. Now call me crazy but if a bunch of men wearing vests with "Police" written on them burst into my house all of a sudden, the last thing I would do is open fire.

announced themselves  ::) she ws OLD...old people cant hear well..

they cant see well either..

sometimes i DO miss pakistan..if this had happened there..those officers woulda suffered terrible trajedies in the following weeks.. :)

the memorial services woulda been on the teli and all..the officers woulda even gotton awards with free vacations for the families!  :)
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2007, 09:36:40 AM »
announced themselves she ws OLD...old people cant hear well..

bwahahahaha, sure. Have you ever watched the police raid a house before? They don't exactly whisper "Police. Police. Everybody get down on the ground now."

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they cant see well either..

I said this earlier and I'll say it again. Apparently she could see well enough to shoot one officer 3 times and 2 others, once each.

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2007, 09:55:23 AM »

sometimes i DO miss pakistan..if this had happened there..those officers woulda suffered terrible trajedies in the following weeks.. :)


hahaha

If it were anywhere in that part of the world you'd just pay the head cop to axe the fucker who probably shot up the lady or just create a scapegoat out of the blue.  ;D

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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2007, 10:03:37 AM »


I said this earlier and I'll say it again. Apparently she could see well enough to shoot one officer 3 times and 2 others, once each.

kinda easy to aim when someone coming straight at ya!  :-\

i kinda have shot a lotta guns in a previous life..
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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2007, 11:04:28 AM »
nope. The officers believed drugs were being sold at the house. When they entered the residence, they were met with gun fire. The police responded how any officer would - return fire. Why would this strike me as odd?

are you a minority by any chance?

Well, it does go back to how information is determined... Did the cops Lie or not... If they did, then it sorta doesn't matter if they "thought" there were drugs there. They can believe in the Invisible Spaghetti Monster in the sky, but that doesn't give them the right to lie to get a warrant to bust into someone's house does it?


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Re: 90 yr old granny home alone is shot dead by police
« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2007, 11:44:37 AM »
Well, it does go back to how information is determined... Did the cops Lie or not... If they did, then it sorta doesn't matter if they "thought" there were drugs there. They can believe in the Invisible Spaghetti Monster in the sky, but that doesn't give them the right to lie to get a warrant to bust into someone's house does it?

I think you misunderstood the context in which I wrote my post. I was responding to jaguar who asked me if I found anything odd about the initial police report.