How can people even debate this? Arnold Is King. End of story. I do think Sergio relied to much on genetics, you can noticably tell that Arnold improved year after year where as Sergio brought the same package year after year with less then stellar conditioning. Pumpster you sir are by far just as retarded when it comes to logic as Triple V when it comes to BBing. Please shove an icepick in your eye now cause ND owns you day and night even if he isn't right (which in this case he is right).