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« Reply #925 on: June 22, 2007, 09:24:18 AM »

why is that last pic of serge with his lady shopped?

if you look down at his left forearm you can see that the left arm and the waist are shopped.

is this really necessary to do with one of the gretest physiques ever Huh
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« Reply #926 on: June 22, 2007, 01:28:06 PM »

Made in Montana,

Thank you for posting the pictures (in this thread and others). I've never seen many of them. You have quite the collection!
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« Reply #927 on: June 24, 2007, 08:14:34 AM »

thanks Made in Montana.

i can appreciate what you're saying about what is attractive/what's not, but i also agree with you that bbers don't put themselves through all this to look attractive.

it's like saying a guy plays pro baseball to get the girls.

what drives a pro bber imo is the need to improve. progress is human nature and humans will do whatever it takes to succeed.

thus bbers must get bigger, freakier, etc.

i doubt serge said one day, "oh, i want to just maintain now."

maybe the mistake is, as you say, adding mass for the sake of it. bbers should be addressing proportion shortcomings instead maybe, but i can't see a competitive athlete ever saying enough is enough. athletes must strive, it's in their nature.

the result of progress is physiques that looking freakier and freakier.

the type of physique that serge had was probably more unattainable than what cutler presents, because a lot of what serge had ie tiny waist, etc were genetic attributes.
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« Reply #928 on: June 24, 2007, 09:11:50 AM »

Your welcome, Hypertrophy. I'm glad you enjoy them too. Some of them tell a story...


Click here for bigger pic:
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It is very interesting to compare Serge bodyshape during the above pic to his best in the 1972-late 70's. During the above pic time his physique has less definition, and his neck look thicker and face look bigger. Later during his best years, he has a much smaller face and thinner neck and wider shoulder. Compare his look in this pic and that of his look in the Pro Cup clip in you tube you get what I meant.
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« Reply #929 on: June 26, 2007, 06:48:08 AM »

In that early pic, I believe Serge trained with some lower reps, heavy weight sets. He has not achieved the super-ripped and hard look he was known for. Remember Serge still holds the French Bench Press Record 500lb at 200lb?

The last pic Serge was about 50 years old I think. At this point he has a "drier" but cut down on some size.

In the middle, he was at his best at about 35-40 years old, where he was massive enough and being cut enough with his pecs esp lower pecs fully-blown. The difference between Frank Zane and Serge with both being aesthetic, is that Serge is bigger and has some freaky body parts: like his pecs and bone structure.
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« Reply #930 on: June 26, 2007, 09:17:13 AM »

Beast, Jay Cutler sums up what you just said...and my thoughts too...in this interview:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3330281&highlight=ronnie+coleman

It's interesting...Jay trains 90 min./day. That's about as long as I train (2-3X/wk). Serge used to train all day, every day...7-8+ hours was nothing unusual when training for competition; he is doing about 2-3 hrs/day now (at 69 yrs old). Serge explains that you stimulate excess testosterone in your body when you train in excess beyond 5 hours. It's like when you don't sleep, you produce excess cortisol...or when you are stressed...excess adrenaline. When you overtrain, the body has to produce excess testosterone in order to keep training that way every day. Serge has never been as big as Jay and only ate once or twice a day instead of once every hour and a half, but I think he looks big enough.

Leannmean...I see what you mean. He's a lot younger in that last picture. Still...Very nice. Sexy body. Comparing to later...this one is from 1975. This is impressive...even more muscular:



http://mywebpage.netscape.com/IronGameLegendsF/Oly75.jpg

Heres another picture that I think is good.



http://mywebpage.netscape.com/IronGameLegendsF/sergblu.JPG


interesting theory about the over 5 hrs training time increasing test. never heard of that one. i remember that during the late 80's, early 90's there were studies that concluded that training longer than 50 minutes was likely to reduce test levels. it was a consequence to this that bbers started spending less time in the gym. sort of went with the whole intensity first thing aswell.

interesting that even hardore bbing fans will gladly express their disgust at the contemporary bber ie jay, ronnie, etc, but i haven't read/heard a single diss at nubret's body.

'just say no' has NEVER worked with drugs and neither have the draconian laws that govern drug use. in fact, all it does incite drug use eg. during prohibition of alcohol circa 1920's america, alcohol had the highest consumption rate ever and organised crime gained a strong foothold on american society. my point is, forget about trying to control whatever drugs the pros are using and start rewarding symmetry, shape, lines and proportion over massive size. i don't exactly know how that would be done, but it would be a good start to uncovering more nubrets out there and bbing might gain some credibility. Undecided

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« Reply #931 on: June 27, 2007, 07:10:19 AM »

serge nubret is immortal!
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« Reply #932 on: June 27, 2007, 08:03:38 AM »

Made in Montana, agreed and thanks for continuing to provide awe inspiring pic of nubret. that last shot is incredible.

the problem is that, imho, it is extremely rare that you will find a human with nubret's combination of shape, size and proportion. i'd like to see just how many guys do everything that nubret did/does and end up looking like nubret.

this may be part of the problem. everyone wants to compete, even the guys with super wide frames, waists, etc. obviously these guys must develop much wider everything else to get the right proportion and on we go down the size at all costs path again.

maybe bbing competition is just fundamentally flawed. serge didn't compete that much did he? Wink
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« Reply #933 on: June 28, 2007, 08:46:39 AM »

Monsieur Nubret,

It is an honor to have you participate in this thread.

Merci beaucoup!
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« Reply #934 on: June 28, 2007, 09:00:31 AM »

who's the short guy?

mohammed makkaway (spelling?)
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« Reply #935 on: June 28, 2007, 10:43:18 PM »

i better be careful, you're starting to make me a believer (in genetics being so dominant a factor) lol Grin

great pics as usual Made in Montana.

makkawy (thanks for correct spelling) was a gironda trained bber wasn't he? gironda was very much devoted to shape and proportion above mass for the sake of mass.

makkawy was a tremendous bber.
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« Reply #936 on: June 30, 2007, 02:11:25 PM »


Reeves was great but I'm not buying into this photo.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #937 on: June 30, 2007, 04:14:58 PM »

Perhaps because you cannot do it.
Perhaps because Steve Reeves couldn't do it.  Wink
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« Reply #938 on: August 05, 2007, 04:41:27 AM »

I was translating the book into French and got sidetracked working on Serge's website.
There will be someone to help finish it soon though.

On another note...here's the links to Serge's training program in the case that any of you would like to take a look. Please forgive if these have been posted previously:

Liens vers les fiches anglaises imprimables: TRAINING IN ENGLISH

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wA.pdf

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wB.pdf

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wC.pdf


Liens vers les fiches francaises imprimables: FRENCH

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wAfr.pdf

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wBfr.pdf

http://www.performlabs.com/soft/template005wCfr.pdf



And one more note...Serge is leaving today for Guadeloupe and will be gone a month..so he might take a while if you have any questions that need answering.

Thank you Made in Montana, I just came back from Guadeloupe where I was for vacation. By tomorrow I will be posting again regulary.

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« Reply #939 on: August 06, 2007, 09:11:19 AM »

why is that last pic of serge with his lady shopped?

if you look down at his left forearm you can see that the left arm and the waist are shopped.

is this really necessary to do with one of the gretest physiques ever Huh

You should ask Denie, my photographer why he did that.

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« Reply #940 on: August 06, 2007, 09:35:56 AM »

In that early pic, I believe Serge trained with some lower reps, heavy weight sets. He has not achieved the super-ripped and hard look he was known for. Remember Serge still holds the French Bench Press Record 500lb at 200lb?

The last pic Serge was about 50 years old I think. At this point he has a "drier" but cut down on some size.

In the middle, he was at his best at about 35-40 years old, where he was massive enough and being cut enough with his pecs esp lower pecs fully-blown. The difference between Frank Zane and Serge with both being aesthetic, is that Serge is bigger and has some freaky body parts: like his pecs and bone structure.

Those picture than Made in Montana shown in the bigining, I was only maybe 23 years old, have been training only for a few years, and the others was taken when I was about 40..something about 20 years after it is normal that my muscle was more mature, more dense. I never trained with havy weights, but some time I just try a max just for my ego. Tha first time I went to the gym I did a bench press with 100 kg.

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« Reply #941 on: August 06, 2007, 09:46:16 AM »

serge nubret is immortal!

Thank you.

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« Reply #942 on: August 06, 2007, 09:48:28 AM »

Made in Montana, agreed and thanks for continuing to provide awe inspiring pic of nubret. that last shot is incredible.

the problem is that, imho, it is extremely rare that you will find a human with nubret's combination of shape, size and proportion. i'd like to see just how many guys do everything that nubret did/does and end up looking like nubret.

this may be part of the problem. everyone wants to compete, even the guys with super wide frames, waists, etc. obviously these guys must develop much wider everything else to get the right proportion and on we go down the size at all costs path again.

maybe bbing competition is just fundamentally flawed. serge didn't compete that much did he? Wink

Only 13 times in 50 years.

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« Reply #943 on: August 06, 2007, 09:58:11 AM »

Beast, I agree genetics can give an advantage. But I also think training technique can make up for weaknesses. Serge is not only a bodybuilder, but also an artist and sculptor. He has ways of making certain body parts larger and some tapered with shape...look at Lionel, who Serge trains. His physique looks similiar to Serge's because of similiar training technique. I would bet that anyone who trained with Serge could end up looking more like this, than they do now.   









You are right Made in Montana, the training technic is very important. In my when I was train competitors, like Thierry PASTEL, Gabin LAMBERT, Even Edouardo kAWAK who did not have the perfect physic to start with change in some kind of perfection. Lionel is a young body builder soon he will be very wellnown if he does not make mistake, I am training a new one now is name is JEROME, keep his name in mind too. It is why by thursday i will start to train people through INTERNET for contest, just go to my website on Friday for more informations, the website is below :

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« Reply #944 on: August 06, 2007, 10:00:21 AM »

Here is the sculptor:


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/IronGameLegendsF/sergefront.JPG

Here is his work of art:


http://mywebpage.netscape.com/IronGameLegendsF/DSC_0045.jpg

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« Reply #945 on: August 06, 2007, 10:02:56 AM »


Yes Makkawy stop by me to prepar his Mr univers contest which was taking place in Montreal, I forgot wich year it was, but anyway I won too.

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« Reply #946 on: August 06, 2007, 10:04:29 AM »

who's the short guy?

Mohamed MAKKAWY, from Egypt.

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« Reply #947 on: August 06, 2007, 10:05:49 AM »

Monsieur Nubret,

It is an honor to have you participate in this thread.

Merci beaucoup!

It is a pleasure for me, if it was not I will not do it.

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« Reply #948 on: August 06, 2007, 10:07:23 AM »

Serge, you are a legend and one of the best ever. Your legacy is in place and you will be remebered for as long as their is bodybuilding.

However, what we all want to know is how much you took. Come on, be honest. I'm guessing 1000g test, 1000g deca and as much dbol and anavar as your kidneys could handle. This is nothing by todays monstrous standards, and no one doubts hard work, discipline and diet were fundamental in your sucess - but how much did you take! Or do you claim to have been natrual Roll Eyes
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« Reply #949 on: August 06, 2007, 10:08:34 AM »

Mohamed Makkawy Mr. Universe



Good job, Beast. You know...I've seen his name spelled differently in various prints, but I believe that's the correct spelling. The reason I posted his picture was to illustrate that his height and body type is different than Serge, but he still looks amazing.




Of course he trained with me.

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