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serge nubret · « **Reply #1100 on:** October 15, 2007, 05:29:07 AM »

Quote from: davidpaul on October 15, 2007, 04:37:25 AM

why afre you apologising are you phillip vickery?

I am happy that England won.

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Trev · « **Reply #1101 on:** October 15, 2007, 05:43:42 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 05:29:07 AM

I am happy that England won.

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Ha ha - so am I .... Here's hoping we retain the title next weekend !!

I have adapted your schedule to try give myself an extra days rest ( normally still very sore after 2 days, so going for 3 day rest ) AND to avoid trying to work my chest the day after training triceps ( when they will be VERY sore ). Does this schedule look Ok to you ??

Day One: AM: Abs / Calves PM: Chest
Day Two: AM: Abs PM: Back
Day Three: AM: Abs / Delts PM: Calves + 1 hr break then Biceps/Triceps
Day Four: AM: Abs / Hamstrings PM: Quads
Then Repeat above
Rest Day ONLY if very sore/tired.

Andre Nickatina · « **Reply #1102 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:40:24 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 05:27:25 AM

I don't know yet, Panatta company asked me to guest pose for my 70 years birthday, I will see.

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That would be awesome Serge!

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1103 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:42:49 AM »

Quote from: Trev on October 15, 2007, 05:43:42 AM

Ha ha - so am I .... Here's hoping we retain the title next weekend !!

I have adapted your schedule to try give myself an extra days rest ( normally still very sore after 2 days, so going for 3 day rest ) AND to avoid trying to work my chest the day after training triceps ( when they will be VERY sore ). Does this schedule look Ok to you ??

Day One: AM: Abs / Calves PM: Chest
Day Two: AM: Abs PM: Back
Day Three: AM: Abs / Delts PM: Calves + 1 hr break then Biceps/Triceps
Day Four: AM: Abs / Hamstrings PM: Quads
Then Repeat above
Rest Day ONLY if very sore/tired.

no need to that much ab training unless your into somekind of sportspecific training. also serges high rep ab training is not that smart. specially not to use as cardio...if you wanna do cardio..do some fast walking or something.

doing 2-3 weighted sets of ab training twice a week is enough (dont do direct oblique training tho if your a bb). and no you wont get a thick waist..specially not without noticing it.........also ab strength is important too keep in balance with lower back strength.

doing endless reps of bw crunches is just useless (unless your a total newbie..)

MAXX · « **Reply #1104 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:00:48 AM »

why so much abs?

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1105 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:10:56 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on October 15, 2007, 07:00:48 AM

why so much abs?

just because serge says so

. these guys cant use their own heads.

serge was a great bodybuilder but that doesnt mean you should copy everything he did.

Trev · « **Reply #1106 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:36:44 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on October 15, 2007, 07:10:56 AM

just because serge says so . these guys cant use their own heads.

serge was a great bodybuilder but that doesnt mean you should copy everything he did.

Hiya - Again, I appreciate your comments, BUT tried weighted abs back in the '80's and it did enlarge my abs and obliques!! I Have basically avoided ab work through my 20's and 30's as I have been slowly building through basic routines and a relaxed diet. Although Ive dieted down already from 16st and 37 inch waist to a 32 inch waist at just over 14st I want it back to the 30" which is where it was when I was previously this lean in my twenties at 12st 7. Then I am planning to diet down further! As shown I HAVE adapted the routine to include more days off and changed to add an extra rest for arms as I don't believe Im recovered enough to hit the bodyparts as soon as Serge suggests, BUT kept the ab work in as I think this will overtrain the abs, thus reducing them down and tightening them up! Gaspari's used daily ab working to reduce his waist by over 2 inches between the 1988 Olympia and his 1989 Arnold Classic March win, so ..... As previously mentioned, Im gonna give it a shot and post whether its working or not in 6 months time - I AM EXPECTING IT TO WORK.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1107 on:** October 15, 2007, 07:46:27 AM »

Quote from: Trev on October 15, 2007, 07:36:44 AM

Hiya - Again, I appreciate your comments, BUT tried weighted abs back in the '80's and it did enlarge my abs and obliques!! I Have basically avoided ab work through my 20's and 30's as I have been slowly building through basic routines and a relaxed diet. Although Ive dieted down already from 16st and 37 inch waist to a 32 inch waist at just over 14st I want it back to the 30" which is where it was when I was previously this lean in my twenties at 12st 7. Then I am planning to diet down further! As shown I HAVE adapted the routine to include more days off and changed to add an extra rest for arms as I don't believe Im recovered enough to hit the bodyparts as soon as Serge suggests, BUT kept the ab work in as I think this will overtrain the abs, thus reducing them down and tightening them up! Gaspari's used daily ab working to reduce his waist by over 2 inches between the 1988 Olympia and his 1989 Arnold Classic March win, so ..... As previously mentioned, Im gonna give it a shot and post whether its working or not in 6 months time - I AM EXPECTING IT TO WORK.

abs will seldom grow too big (in a natural athlete), and good ab strength is important for lower back health.....also if you feel your abs growing too big..dont increase the weights (on weighted ab exercises)...=they wont grow bigger

irregardless of that..there is no need to do bw abs almost every day. overtraining your abs wont shrink your abs...dropping fat by calorie restriction and doing cardio will bring forth the abs.

even if you set on doing bw (no weighted) ab training...its enough to do it 2 times per week.

on the routine you have outlined, i will give you 3-4 weeks then you will give up.

serge nubret · « **Reply #1108 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:18:01 AM »

Quote from: Trev on October 15, 2007, 05:43:42 AM

Ha ha - so am I .... Here's hoping we retain the title next weekend !!

I have adapted your schedule to try give myself an extra days rest ( normally still very sore after 2 days, so going for 3 day rest ) AND to avoid trying to work my chest the day after training triceps ( when they will be VERY sore ). Does this schedule look Ok to you ??

Day One: AM: Abs / Calves PM: Chest
Day Two: AM: Abs PM: Back
Day Three: AM: Abs / Delts PM: Calves + 1 hr break then Biceps/Triceps
Day Four: AM: Abs / Hamstrings PM: Quads
Then Repeat above
Rest Day ONLY if very sore/tired.

In bodybuilding, nearly everything are good, but your training here is not mine, so if it did not work, don't say that my training program is not working. One more thing, if in your mind you beleive already that you will be SORE/TIRED for sure that you will be.

Serge Nubret
http://www.sergenubret.com
http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

serge nubret · « **Reply #1109 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:21:41 AM »

Quote from: Andre Nickatina on October 15, 2007, 06:40:24 AM

That would be awesome Serge!

I am thinking about it, and you know what someone has always to look for motivation, and this one is one.

Serge Nubret
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slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1110 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:25:47 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 08:18:01 AM

In bodybuilding, nearly everything are good, but your training here is not mine, so if it did not work, don't say that my training program is not working. One more thing, if in your mind you beleive already that you will be SORE/TIRED for sure that you will be.

Serge Nubret
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http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

if you believe you can do something, often the door opens. yet sometimes it remains closed.

Trev · « **Reply #1111 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:34:17 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 08:18:01 AM

In bodybuilding, nearly everything are good, but your training here is not mine, so if it did not work, don't say that my training program is not working. One more thing, if in your mind you beleive already that you will be SORE/TIRED for sure that you will be.

Serge Nubret
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http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

Many thanks, ALL taken on-board. All the best. Trev

serge nubret · « **Reply #1112 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:38:39 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on October 15, 2007, 07:10:56 AM

just because serge says so . these guys cant use their own heads.

serge was a great bodybuilder but that doesnt mean you should copy everything he did.

Training abds does not mean to have abds, but to be in good shape, you will never see someone who has very good abds and be sick, but you can have 20 inches arms and be sick. ABDS IS THE BAROMETER OF YOUR BODY.

serge nubret · « **Reply #1113 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:43:58 AM »

Quote from: Trev on October 15, 2007, 07:36:44 AM

Hiya - Again, I appreciate your comments, BUT tried weighted abs back in the '80's and it did enlarge my abs and obliques!! I Have basically avoided ab work through my 20's and 30's as I have been slowly building through basic routines and a relaxed diet. Although Ive dieted down already from 16st and 37 inch waist to a 32 inch waist at just over 14st I want it back to the 30" which is where it was when I was previously this lean in my twenties at 12st 7. Then I am planning to diet down further! As shown I HAVE adapted the routine to include more days off and changed to add an extra rest for arms as I don't believe Im recovered enough to hit the bodyparts as soon as Serge suggests, BUT kept the ab work in as I think this will overtrain the abs, thus reducing them down and tightening them up! Gaspari's used daily ab working to reduce his waist by over 2 inches between the 1988 Olympia and his 1989 Arnold Classic March win, so ..... As previously mentioned, Im gonna give it a shot and post whether its working or not in 6 months time - I AM EXPECTING IT TO WORK.

Keep doing your abds, I was myself doing one hour abds every day and every body know about my waist measurment. And as I said that is a sign of good health.

Serge Nubret
http://www.sergenubret.com
http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

The Squadfather · « **Reply #1114 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:48:12 AM »

hey Serge how many sets would you do for a bodypart in a typical workout?

Trev · « **Reply #1115 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:49:56 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 08:43:58 AM

Keep doing your abds, I was myself doing one hour abds every day and every body know about my waist measurment. And as I said that is a sign of good health.

Serge Nubret
http://www.sergenubret.com
http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

With you here giving free advice, I have to at least test your routine and ASSUME I will recover and grow. Therefore I'll carry on as below and report my success in 6 months time:-

Day One: AM: Abs, Quads PM: Calves, ( 1hr break ) Chest
Day Two: AM: Abs, Hamstrings PM: Back
Day Three: AM: Abs / Delts PM: Calves, ( 1 Hr break ), Arms
Then Repeat

Don Miracle · « **Reply #1116 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:03:31 AM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 13, 2007, 05:04:40 AM

I don't really do that, it's normally at least for a month. but if it is someone oversea, I will do it for 150$ but for two hours. Why you want to come to Paris. Let me know.

Serge Nubret
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You're doing that as a favor to your fans, then. $75/hour would be an unbelievably low price to pay for the experience.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #1117 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:46:34 AM »

Quote from: Don Miracle on October 15, 2007, 11:03:31 AM

You're doing that as a favor to your fans, then. $75/hour would be an unbelievably low price to pay for the experience.

yeah 75 bucks an hour to have a 70 year old guy show you how to do curls and bench presses is a steal.

serge nubret · « **Reply #1118 on:** October 15, 2007, 02:22:03 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on October 15, 2007, 08:48:12 AM

hey Serge how many sets would you do for a bodypart in a typical workout?

You can find my training program, PAGE 9

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serge nubret · « **Reply #1119 on:** October 15, 2007, 02:25:29 PM »

Quote from: Don Miracle on October 15, 2007, 11:03:31 AM

You're doing that as a favor to your fans, then. $75/hour would be an unbelievably low price to pay for the experience.

Yes, if you click on the 3rd link after my signature you will be able to see the official price.

Serge Nubret
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http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #1120 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:24:11 PM »

Quote from: serge nubret on October 15, 2007, 08:38:39 AM

Training abds does not mean to have abds, but to be in good shape, you will never see someone who has very good abds and be sick, but you can have 20 inches arms and be sick. ABDS IS THE BAROMETER OF YOUR BODY.

yes but inside the layer of muscle..thats when it can function as the barometer of your body

..not the muscle itself.

also....the above comment you mentioned doesnt change the fact that you dont need to do abs daily to have good abs. what you need is low fat % and to work abs 2 times a week (with weights or without)...
but certainly not 100 or 1000 reps daily.

abs 2 (maybe once..or max 3 times) times a week: 2-3 sets of abs 8-20 reps....

in other words..treat it more like other muscle groups.

maybe if you train for some kind of sport where you need alot of muscle endurance...more reps can be useful.

serge nubret · « **Reply #1121 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:04:02 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on October 15, 2007, 04:24:11 PM

yes but inside the layer of muscle..thats when it can function as the barometer of your body ..not the muscle itself.

also....the above comment you mentioned doesnt change the fact that you dont need to do abs daily to have good abs. what you need is low fat % and to work abs 2 times a week (with weights or without)...
but certainly not 100 or 1000 reps daily.

abs 2 (maybe once..or max 3 times) times a week: 2-3 sets of abs 8-20 reps....

in other words..treat it more like other muscle groups.

maybe if you train for some kind of sport where you need alot of muscle endurance...more reps can be useful.

What i mean when your abds can be seen, you can be 99,99% sure that you are in good shape, and abds can be seen only if you diet properly, which means eat just what you need as calories a day, and if you want to eat more you have to train more. Abds is one way to reach that as it's the only muscle you can train as long you want without domages for size. AND THAT ANSWER TO ALL YOUR QUESTIONS : ABDS ARE NOT LIKE ANY OTHER MUSCLE GROUPS.

Serge Nubret
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serge nubret · « **Reply #1122 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Made in Montana on October 15, 2007, 05:45:52 PM

Slaveboy, please post a picture of yourself showing your abs so that we may compare them to Serge's and better understand how you are qualified to be giving a bodybuilding legend/6 time world champion with 50 years of bodybuilding experience training advice. Your correcting him, winking at him and tone suggest you think you know more than he does, so we would love to see your pictures. You must look incredible. Thank you.

Hi Made in Montana?...Thank you to defend me specially when this guy is completly wrong.

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serge nubret · « **Reply #1123 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:09:19 PM »

Quote from: Made in Montana on October 15, 2007, 06:17:18 PM

Serge, you are considerate, generous and a gentleman. Thank you for your time.

http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn542.jpg

Thank you.

Serge Nubret
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Trev · « **Reply #1124 on:** October 15, 2007, 11:54:57 PM »

Quote from: Made in Montana on October 15, 2007, 05:45:52 PM

Slaveboy, please post a picture of yourself showing your abs so that we may compare them to Serge's and better understand how you are qualified to be giving a bodybuilding legend/6 time world champion with 50 years of bodybuilding experience training advice. Your correcting him, winking at him and tone suggest you think you know more than he does, so we would love to see your pictures. You must look incredible. Thank you.

Ha ha, nice one. Most of your posts are great slaveboy but man you must have huge balls to challenge Serge Nubret on Ab training!!! Im on my fourth day only of doing abs every day and they are ALREADY tighter, much more visible and the little amount of fat I have over the top of them does feel softer and looser as if no longer attached to the muscle below!!! Strange but true. ALSO hit chest within 3 days this AM when still sore - Felt the muscle working more, soreness has gone and will return to them again in another 3 days. Many thanks Serge for your great advice. It may be different to todays way of thinking BUT I have no doubts I will get the results Im looking for - How is your training going this year since your long lay off ??