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« Reply #1150 on: October 18, 2007, 01:49:59 AM »

You should take some time and read the all thread, i wrote everything you asking me there.

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I 'll do that . thank u .
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« Reply #1151 on: October 18, 2007, 03:29:32 AM »

Slave, where are your pictures? We're still waiting to compare your abs to Serge's. Your response to a request for proof of your theories: "if you cant take being questioned, do not post on here or online."  I don't mind anyone having an opinion. If you don't like when I comment about HOW something is said, maybe you should consider that when you post.

Re: your definition of respect--you post in the history forum repeatedly that Steve Reeves was an "insecure narcissistic drug user" (and more)--all of it untrue. You never even met him, so you lose credibility running him down. Steve was natural, generous, considerate, won every bodybuilding title that existed when he competed, was the biggest box office movie star/highest paid actor in the world in 1959, so you are ridiculous to write dishonest, rude and disrespectful things about people you don't know.

"Hero worship" and "critically evaluating information" are not mutually exclusive. It's possible to be respectful while asking questions. If you think you have a better way, then step up to the plate and prove it to us by showing pictures. If you look better than Serge, we would love to see it.

epic trying to avoid what i was discussing.

my physique doesnt have anything to do with serges excessive ab routine recommendations. but yes i have a good physique but obviously not on serges level. at the same time, i havent used steroids, which serge did. are you saying you have to be as good as serge to criticize some of his recommendations?    Grin

i wasnt discussing mr reeves in this thread, i was dicussing serges ab routine.

as for hero worship...yes often it excludes critical thinking. need proof? read your own posts.  Grin
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« Reply #1152 on: October 18, 2007, 06:02:16 AM »

Thank you A....Oups!... Made in Montana, I was going to call you by your real name.

Yes this photo with Arnold was in Paris in 1971 when I was the organizer of the IFBB Mr.Universe and Mr.Olympia, which Arnold won easilly, because Sergio could not compete as he competed one week before in the NABBA Mr.Universe in London, so he was suspended from the IFBB, but as i put his pucture on the contest's poster, I asked him to guest pose, first he did not want, because he did not know me, it was the first time we met, it was in London during this NABBA Mr.Universe, where Bill Pearl beat him, so it is why he did not want to guest pose, he was so desapointed, and I did undestood that, but as I want to please the french spectators, I found a way to oblige him to come to Paris, but that's another story, that maybe I will tell one day.

Ben Weider who is the IFBB president did not want that Sergio guest pose, told me / SERGIO CANNOT GUEST POSE BECAUSE HE IS SUSPENDED FROM THE FEDERATION, But one month before he asked me the same favor for Arnold. So after about 15 minutes discusion, i had to tell weider : IF SERGIO CANNOT GUEST POSE, I WILL CANCEL THE CONTEST AND GIVE EVERY BODY BACK THEIR TICKET MONEY. So that the way Sergio finally guest posed, untill know I never told Sergio about that. All those story will be in my AUTOBIOGRAPHY BOOK. And more.
Weider Asked to give Joe the price money, for him to give Arnold on stage, I refused, because that was my own money, and I did not want that people think that Weider gave the price money from his pocket, as he always let people think. Specially when he refused to sponsor the show.

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Priceless information...

Please do tell Sergio's story.

WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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« Reply #1153 on: October 18, 2007, 08:04:24 AM »

Priceless information...

Please do tell Sergio's story.

WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Soon.

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« Reply #1154 on: October 18, 2007, 08:07:06 AM »

epic trying to avoid what i was discussing.

my physique doesnt have anything to do with serges excessive ab routine recommendations. but yes i have a good physique but obviously not on serges level. at the same time, i havent used steroids, which serge did. are you saying you have to be as good as serge to criticize some of his recommendations?    Grin

i wasnt discussing mr reeves in this thread, i was dicussing serges ab routine.

as for hero worship...yes often it excludes critical thinking. need proof? read your own posts.  Grin

What are you talking about?...Every body knows that you used dteroids, why you don't tell the true?....

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« Reply #1155 on: October 18, 2007, 08:57:41 AM »

lol

get real...

nobody uses steroids these days. they're so yesterday.

today we have.........KNS.

on a serious note, something has been bugging me about your nutritional intake serge.

how on earth did you eat 11lbs of red meat in one sitting Huh

even fasting through the day like you did, this would have been very hard to do, surely. your stomach capacity must have been huge.

it's kind of ironic really because many have theorised as to exactly what is the cause of the bloated abdominal walls of the contemporary pro bber and some have seriously suggested that it is because of the overeating of food in the offseason. you had one of the smallest midsections. what's your thoughts on the matter?
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« Reply #1156 on: October 18, 2007, 10:32:32 AM »

lol

get real...

nobody uses steroids these days. they're so yesterday.

today we have.........KNS.

on a serious note, something has been bugging me about your nutritional intake serge.

how on earth did you eat 11lbs of red meat in one sitting Huh

even fasting through the day like you did, this would have been very hard to do, surely. your stomach capacity must have been huge.

it's kind of ironic really because many have theorised as to exactly what is the cause of the bloated abdominal walls of the contemporary pro bber and some have seriously suggested that it is because of the overeating of food in the offseason. you had one of the smallest midsections. what's your thoughts on the matter?

What's KNS?...

First I said that I eat 3 to 5kg of meat a day, so why you only mention the 5kg. Who said that i eat it in one meal, Do you know about soup made of chicken put into the blender, with water, spices, salt?...and drink it instead to eat. Some time I eat 3kg and some time 5kg, depend how was my training. One day I weigh myself before eating and after, the difference was about 13 pounds in one meal, but that's true it was exceptional.

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« Reply #1157 on: October 18, 2007, 10:44:53 AM »

What's KNS?...

First I said that I eat 3 to 5kg of meat a day, so why you only mention the 5kg. Who said that i eat it in one meal, Do you know about soup made of chicken put into the blender, with water, spices, salt?...and drink it instead to eat. Some time I eat 3kg and some time 5kg, depend how was my training. One day I weigh myself before eating and after, the difference was about 13 pounds in one meal, but that's true it was exceptional.

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kns is milk and sugar but it's very expensive milk and sugar so it must work. Roll Eyes

13lbs in 1 meal?

did you ever get sick from these massive intakes of food?
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« Reply #1158 on: October 18, 2007, 12:21:04 PM »

yeah 75 bucks an hour to have a 70 year old guy show you how to do curls and bench presses is a steal. Roll Eyes

 Huh 

I'm trying to help the dude out here.  Lou's charging $20 just for a lousy picture. 
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« Reply #1159 on: October 18, 2007, 02:58:38 PM »

kns is milk and sugar but it's very expensive milk and sugar so it must work. Roll Eyes

13lbs in 1 meal?

did you ever get sick from these massive intakes of food?

You cannot be sick when you train 3 to 5 hours a day.

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« Reply #1160 on: October 18, 2007, 03:01:32 PM »

Huh 

I'm trying to help the dude out here.  Lou's charging $20 just for a lousy picture. 

But don't forget to be able to shoot this lousy picture he has to train hours and hours.

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« Reply #1161 on: October 18, 2007, 11:47:32 PM »

Mon Dieu, Serge, you are strong, humble...and generous. I know Steve admired your physique and appreciated your friendship as much as you did his. If it was not for Steve, I wouldn't be here either...for many reasons. If it weren't for you, I wouldn't be involved in bodybuilding now other than for exercise for personal health and sharing your guys' pictures with family and friends. You have changed my life and I have learned so much from you I can't even tell you. Thank you for what you write. It's priceless.

Steve has made an impact on so many people worldwide with his films. Hercules was top box office in the U.S., Europe, Japan, Asia and even in countries like Calcutta, India where it played 4 times a day, 364 days a year for 2 years. I receive emails today from Europeans to tell me about Steve Reeves Film festivals where they spend a week or weekend playing many of his 16 films and showing his bodybuilding pictures. I don't know if he realized the kind of impact he had and I think you share that characteristic with him too.
Serge, you affect so many people...more than you will ever know. You are 6 times Bodybuilding World Champion with 13 bodybuilding titles, a famous film actor in 25 films. Articles have been written comparing you to Sidney Poitier...and you seem to forget that you are a legend famous in many genres of life. I know there was a Mr. Olympia who upon first meeting you bowed down at your feet speechless. You are the reason and role model for many bodybuilders and I have seen people stare in awe with incredulous when looking at your pictures...me included. There are so many people in the United States who aren't even bodybuilders who are your fans. There's a band down south of skinny white guys named the "Serge Nubret band." lol. A lot of people who don't even train are fans of your physique...it's a piece of artwork...truly amazing.

Steve was a pioneer, my first impression and a strong influence for me in many ways, but to me, Serge, you are the greatest bodybuilder in the world of all time because no one has done it longer, more passionately, with more dedication and obsession and spent more time in the gym training and training others. And you have done so with humility, patience and love for training and the people you train. There are others who have loved bodybuilding and been good at it, I take no credit away from others who also should be noted, but you stand apart from the others as a bodybuilder 365 days a year every year your whole life from when you first started training...over 50 years ago.

When I saw you with your shirt off last week looking better than guys in their 20s, I can only say that the world is going to understand the power of bodybuilding when they see Serge Nubret at age 70 with a drug free, amazingly sculpted, strong healthy physique. I know it inspires me and will inspire people of every age.













Oh!....My was speechless when i went through what you wrote about me. Tha's just too much. That's is true that i love bodybuilding a lot, my wives used to say my first wife is bodybuilding, maybe that's true, hope the day will come when I will find one who love this sport as i do.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

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« Reply #1162 on: October 19, 2007, 05:17:23 AM »

epic trying to avoid showing your picture.

Your physique doesn't have anything to do with any ab routine recommendations because you are afraid to show it. You cannot back up your theories or justify your attitude of superiority. You try to appear clever trying to own Serge on his thread, but you appear obnoxious and rude instead.

It doesn't matter where you post slander against Steve Reeves, it's bad on any page and doesn't change that you're the source of it no matter where you put it. When I post pictures and information, some people thank me because some of them are family photos that won't be seen in magazines. Only you call it hero worshipping that lacks critical thinking. You're only response is to be a smart mouth and tell me to leave.

The point was about being respectful. You didn't get it, Slaveboy...that's why you are a slave and always will be one...unless you change your attitude. It's up to you. If you're gonna be a pain in the a$$, you could at least be funny.

epic continued trying to shift discussion away from serges ab recommendations  Grin

also its obvious you intentionally misread every post I make, im not calling your posting of rare pics hero worship, im calling your uncritical thinking regarding anything that has to do with your ironage heroes for hero worship.

as for my physique..: many many guys have gotten amazing ab development without doing 1000reps  of situps (pointless for a bodybuilder). and just working abs  1-3 times a week with limited amounts of sets is enough.

so you have serge with great abs doing 1000s of situps and you have lots of other guys with great abs doing far less ab work.

= which proves you dont need to do 1000s of situps. end of story.

dont mix up serges great ab shape with the two other "ab dimensions" : visibility (low fat %) and ab mass (thru heavy deads and squats etc..or direct weighted ab work).

if you look at these three ab dimensions you will realize that ab mass is the only one you can directly change with ab training

(because low fat % should come from caloric restriction and doing reg cardio..not situp cardio which is highly inefficient......and the abs genetic structure is something that you are born with, unless your looking to widen your obliques..which no bb wants)

so the main question is how do you affect ab mass?

answer: let indirect stimulation from heavy compound exercise take care of ab stimulation  or add direct ab training.

how do you train a muscle directly when you wanna add mass?

you do it by progressively increasing weight using 20 (in general...certainly not 1000reps) or less reps per set. and if you dont wanna add more mass you dont increase the weights.

conclusion: doing 1000s of reps of situps hasnt anything to do with ab mass (the only ab dimension you can affect by weight training, as weight training is not an efficient cardio method)

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« Reply #1163 on: October 19, 2007, 05:26:47 AM »

About the "sculpter layout" I have to ask my daughter who did it an have "all right reserve." About the last one, the pixel his not so good.

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Hey Serge,
Make your physique posters with those designs that your daughter has added her artistic sense to. These will sell well. The one with you as the sculptor is outstanding. I like her work on the one she sit beside the computer also.
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« Reply #1164 on: October 19, 2007, 01:48:56 PM »

Hey Serge,
Make your physique posters with those designs that your daughter has added her artistic sense to. These will sell well. The one with you as the sculptor is outstanding. I like her work on the one she sit beside the computer also.

She is a very artist she has already EXPOSED in New-York, Germany, England of course Paris. Please go on her website there is hundreds of pieces his website is :

www.pascalenubret.com


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« Reply #1165 on: October 21, 2007, 11:59:33 PM »

epic continued trying to shift discussion away from serges ab recommendations  Grin

also its obvious you intentionally misread every post I make, im not calling your posting of rare pics hero worship, im calling your uncritical thinking regarding anything that has to do with your ironage heroes for hero worship.

as for my physique..: many many guys have gotten amazing ab development without doing 1000reps  of situps (pointless for a bodybuilder). and just working abs  1-3 times a week with limited amounts of sets is enough.

so you have serge with great abs doing 1000s of situps and you have lots of other guys with great abs doing far less ab work.

= which proves you dont need to do 1000s of situps. end of story.

dont mix up serges great ab shape with the two other "ab dimensions" : visibility (low fat %) and ab mass (thru heavy deads and squats etc..or direct weighted ab work).

if you look at these three ab dimensions you will realize that ab mass is the only one you can directly change with ab training

(because low fat % should come from caloric restriction and doing reg cardio..not situp cardio which is highly inefficient......and the abs genetic structure is something that you are born with, unless your looking to widen your obliques..which no bb wants)

so the main question is how do you affect ab mass?

answer: let indirect stimulation from heavy compound exercise take care of ab stimulation  or add direct ab training.

how do you train a muscle directly when you wanna add mass?

you do it by progressively increasing weight using 20 (in general...certainly not 1000reps) or less reps per set. and if you dont wanna add more mass you dont increase the weights.

conclusion: doing 1000s of reps of situps hasnt anything to do with ab mass (the only ab dimension you can affect by weight training, as weight training is not an efficient cardio method)


Adding Ab mass - Who wants to do that. Admittedly the volumes Serge does for his abs every day is amazing and beyond most of us, BUT daily ab training does tighten and harden these muscles and reduce the waist. Ive been doing daily abs for just 2 weeks ( basically half and hours worth only non-stop ) and Ive lost an inch off my waist and my waist is more defined than every before. IF you wanna add ab mass then Im sure your methods ARE the best, but most bodybuilders don'twant to do that.
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« Reply #1166 on: October 22, 2007, 03:12:10 AM »

Adding Ab mass - Who wants to do that. Admittedly the volumes Serge does for his abs every day is amazing and beyond most of us, BUT daily ab training does tighten and harden these muscles and reduce the waist. Ive been doing daily abs for just 2 weeks ( basically half and hours worth only non-stop ) and Ive lost an inch off my waist and my waist is more defined than every before. IF you wanna add ab mass then Im sure your methods ARE the best, but most bodybuilders don'twant to do that.

like i tried to explain..what the fuck else is there? as you cant really shape your ab muscles...(sure you can make obliques wider..but no bb should do direct oblique training)just make em bigger.if you dont wanna make em bigger dont increase weights. but you sure as hell dont have to do 100s of situps non stop
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« Reply #1167 on: October 29, 2007, 01:42:09 AM »

Compare Lou's abs here (which look great, but are nothing compared) to Serge's (incidentally, Lou asked Serge after the 1975 O here to train him, but he got the part in the "Incredible Hulk" and left to go film it:


that the pic u posted right there isnt a good comparison at all. simply put, one guy is flexing his abs, the other is lengthening them. there really is no debate, as the pic speaks for itself.

get lou in the same abs-flexed position as serge, and u have a better comparison.
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« Reply #1168 on: October 29, 2007, 03:12:48 AM »

"Made in Montana" is completely correct. Proof of the pudding..... No bodybuilder on here can argue against Serge's methods as he and the guys he has trained all show the amazing results. I "adapted" Serge's routine - He told me not to and nearly a month on Im 3 pounds heavier, a lot leaner WITHOUT any aerobics and I need to drop down to 32" waist trousers but I can't find any I can get my (now larger) legs into!!!! Im sticking with Serge's routine and advise everyone to at least give it a go before questioning negatively....
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« Reply #1169 on: October 29, 2007, 03:16:12 AM »

Serge - Do tell us about the Spring tour coming up, just Italy??
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« Reply #1170 on: October 29, 2007, 06:22:53 PM »

Serge - Do tell us about the Spring tour coming up, just Italy??

For now only Italy.

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« Reply #1171 on: October 29, 2007, 08:20:12 PM »

Thank you Trev. Here's Lionel last Saturday.

ignoring my post? here it is again. funny how one can be so blinded by their infatuation, that they forget the reality which is right infront of them.

Compare Lou's abs here (which look great, but are nothing compared) to Serge's (incidentally, Lou asked Serge after the 1975 O here to train him, but he got the part in the "Incredible Hulk" and left to go film it:


that the pic u posted right there isnt a good comparison at all. simply put, one guy is flexing his abs, the other is lengthening them. there really is no debate, as the pic speaks for itself.

get lou in the same abs-flexed position as serge, and u have a better comparison.
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« Reply #1172 on: October 29, 2007, 10:15:46 PM »

Thank you Trev. Here's Lionel last Saturday.





Thank you Made in Montana for those pics. Lionel is getting ready for the Mr.Universe contest which will take place in Spain in one month. This contest last Saturday was the qualified to be able to compete. He still have 4-5 kg of fat to loose.

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« Reply #1173 on: October 30, 2007, 01:47:46 AM »

Gone Away, you are silly and impatient getting irritated telling me I'm blind because I don't respond to your post within the hour and then repeating yourself again when your post was ridiculous the first time. I did not say Lou didn't look good. He looked great at the 75 O...but it was Lou who asked Serge to train him--not the other way around. There is a reason for that. Go ask Lou. He will tell you as much.

Why act postal defending someone who came in third behind Serge by barking at me to come up with pictures to defend your claim that Lou looked better than he did in the picture (repeating "get lou in the same abs-flexed position as serge, and u have a better comparison"). Get off your candy ass and come in with pictures yourself. I don't get pissed off when people don't show up with pictures to illustrate my point. That's lazy, unreasonable and inconsiderate on your part. Do the work yourself.

Anyway...my point is simply that Serge has nice abs...and a nice chest too, for that matter. If you want to have a tizzy fit on Serge's thread and disagree with that, go right ahead...and look the fool in front of a bb legend and everyone else. You're being rude and need to take the log out of your own eye if you can't see that Serge has nice abs and feel like ripping down people who want to notice and comment about that on his thread.



This is Serge 2 weeks before the 1975 O...he looked awesome. 


thanks for further illustrating my point about seeing things through rose colored glasses.

i never said serge didnt have nice abs and i never said lou was better than serge. what i did say was that ur comparison of abs was unfair to lou because one guy is flexing his abs, the other is lengthening them. to say that serge has better abs than lou, judged on that picture alone, is ludicris. i take it u dont know much about bbing posing? if i can find a good comparison shot, i will post it. but i sure wont post shots that are unfair to one competitor, like u did.

hope this helps. Smiley
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« Reply #1174 on: October 30, 2007, 06:59:48 AM »

Slave, where's your picture? C'mon...c'mon...c'mon...
Epic use of the word epic...
Your post is overall less irritating...but still needs correction... I share pictures/stories about Steve Reeves and Serge only. I don't speak for other ironage bodybuilders I do not know, but I knew Steve better than anyone on this board and do not err when I speak of him. You never even met him, so your OVERcritical thinking calling Steve Reeves an insecure, narcissistic drug user is out of line.
 
Re: ab training and situps...I agree with you that a person can have nice abs doing it your way. But nice abs are not in the same caliber/resemble Serge's abs. Your advice is not entirely incorrect, but the difference in the abs you describe from what Serge is talking about is evident in pictures. Compare Lou's abs here (which look great, but are nothing compared) to Serge's (incidentally, Lou asked Serge after the 1975 O here to train him, but he got the part in the "Incredible Hulk" and left to go film it:





Serge isn't the only one who gets results doing it Serge's way. The guys Serge trains look very similiar to Serge...as shown by Lionel #7 here...who incidentally won a competition in France yesterday. This picture is from earlier this year, but I'll post recent pictures soon to illustrate that training methods do make a difference.


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comparing lous abs with serge abs doesnt prove anything else that serge has genetically a very good ab structure and well developed abs. besides that pic is a poor comparison ...(lou is not contracting abs)..

no one is disputing that serge was a great bodybuilder with great abs...

my advice not "enterily incorrect" lol....: they are totally correct. its not even really debatable.

"my way" builds nice abs and serge way build serge caliber abs?  Grin....are you kidding me? its that kind of thinking that has confused many young guys who workout and read the "stars" routines. its very very dangerous when pseudo bullshit is spread to the masses and the real factors are not discussed.

and what i proposed is not "my way"....its the right way..if you know anything about human physiology..abs should be basically trained as other muscles groups.
serge would have has as good abs with only a fraction of the amount of ab training he has done. he would have saved alot of unnecessary effort if he had done some cable crunches instead (with resistance) of hours of cardio ab training.

so once again your spreading pseudo bullshit.

actually im not debating this against you..(as i already know im right)....im just hoping that people who read this thread use their own minds and dont believe in everything serge says just because he is a great bodybuilder.

serge knows alot about bodybuilding, but doing 100s of situps is totally unnecessary for a bodybuilder.
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