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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2006, 04:45:31 AM »
Two points, Intel Core 2 Duo's are the class of the dual core processors right now, the AMD is a distant second.

I would say you're wrong on this point. We switched to AMD Opteron proc's because the Duo's couldn't beat them in bench mark testing. Woodcrest might change all that but right now Intel is getting slaughtered.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2006, 04:56:56 AM »
You are wrong.  AMD are the top in most gamers opinion.  Clearly a step ahead for what I want to use this computer for.  I bought an HD LCD and will soon be moving this computer to a 40 inch LCD.

I already have Blu-Ray discs and a few movies.  Blu-Ray will take over soon as most major companies and movie studios have signed on.

I also have 2 other drives as well with DVD burning.  So no problem there.

AMD though, clearly outperforms Intel`s new chip.  I have had both.

I would say you're wrong on this point. We switched to AMD Opteron proc's because the Duo's couldn't beat them in bench mark testing. Woodcrest might change all that but right now Intel is getting slaughtered.

Show me benchmarks using the equivalent CPU's where the AMD wins. Intel Core 2 Duo owns.

Blu ray is a dead horse. What was the last Sony backed media format that was a success? Microsoft has its full weight behind HD-DVD.

How much RAM does this machine have? 16Gb?

All sounds like mindless gloating to me.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2006, 05:11:45 AM »
I would say you're wrong on this point. We switched to AMD Opteron proc's because the Duo's couldn't beat them in bench mark testing. Woodcrest might change all that but right now Intel is getting slaughtered.


This thread is like a yuppie version of a Ford Chevy argument. :-\

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2006, 05:51:02 AM »
Over 3 grand in photoshopping software.

Who else has this and what all can I do with it?


Looks pretty impressive so far.

If you paid over three grand for Adobe CS2 you got taken for a ride.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2006, 05:52:22 AM »
Not at all.  I actually got a deal.  My computer came with it all.  I also got dual 8800 Geforce cards in SLI mode.  AMD Dual Core processors, liquid cooling, 1 terrabyte of Disk Space.  Sony Blu-Ray Drive.  Plus many other things.


Splinter Cell looks like a dream on it.


Damn thing is over 7 times more powerful than the new PS3.

You didn't say you got all the hardware with it. Anyway, if you are going to do image manipulation you should have went with an Apple solution.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2006, 06:36:01 AM »
You are wrong.  AMD are the top in most gamers opinion.  Clearly a step ahead for what I want to use this computer for.  I bought an HD LCD and will soon be moving this computer to a 40 inch LCD.

I already have Blu-Ray discs and a few movies.  Blu-Ray will take over soon as most major companies and movie studios have signed on.

I also have 2 other drives as well with DVD burning.  So no problem there.

AMD though, clearly outperforms Intel`s new chip.  I have had both.



Put the crack pipe down. Almost all the hardware sites agree that AMD's Quad FX platform is a waste of money. The Core 2 Duo series is by far the best choice for gamers.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=382&page=1

Oh, and thanks for letting us know that all the major companies support Blu-Ray. You might have heard of two little companies named "Microsoft" and "Intel". They both support the HD-DVD format.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2006, 06:40:38 AM »
Never.  But now I will.

Looks like too much fun.  I don`t think most people here have photoshop/Creative suite as it is around 1699 dollars and then another 1700 for the rest.

I am learning how to use it.  Good stuff.

or if you have a indian friend? u can just give him a blank disk and copy it for u!  or u can find sites to download for free!

if u paid 3g... your the first i heard of someone actually paying for photoshop in my life!!! dang... u must b rich!!!  yo can i hang with you???

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2006, 06:43:12 AM »
I guess Adonis never heard of BitTorrent. :'(
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2006, 07:00:59 AM »
You are wrong.  AMD are the top in most gamers opinion.  Clearly a step ahead for what I want to use this computer for.  I bought an HD LCD and will soon be moving this computer to a 40 inch LCD.

I already have Blu-Ray discs and a few movies.  Blu-Ray will take over soon as most major companies and movie studios have signed on.

I also have 2 other drives as well with DVD burning.  So no problem there.

AMD though, clearly outperforms Intel`s new chip.  I have had both.

Nope, I'm right. The Intel Core 2 Duo is the king of the hill, AMD has nothing close right now. I can post link after link after link showing tests of the Core 2 Duo kicking AMD Dual Core's ass but you won't click on them and neither will anyone else.

And don't be crazy, the fight between Blu-Ray and HD DVD isn't even close to being over. They both have their strong points and their weak points. The deciding factor might be that HD DVD's cost a little less and have two hugely powerful backers in Microsoft and Intel. It's still a fight either one could win so who knows right now.

You didn't mention if you have WinDVD BD or not, without it that Blu-Ray drives are just for burning. And I hope you bought a lot of high speed RAM.

Also, you could have built that system with everything you want in it and saved about $1,000.

And after getting ripped off spending all that money on a system right before Vista drops I hope you got a free upgrade coupon or download to Vista Ultimate from the computer builder.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2006, 07:45:15 AM »
u can find sites to download for free!




I  seriously doubt that...and if you can I would bet it is a limited trial version or something.I could be wrong...if you can post a link to it please.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2006, 12:26:56 PM »

I  seriously doubt that...and if you can I would bet it is a limited trial version or something.I could be wrong...if you can post a link to it please.

yea i bet u'd like that! lol... but sorry dude.... ur gonna have 2 find your own site...

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2006, 12:57:00 PM »

I  seriously doubt that...and if you can I would bet it is a limited trial version or something.I could be wrong...if you can post a link to it please.

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/861023/Adobe_Photoshop_Pro_CS2_v9_0_Full_ISO_WORKING_Keygen
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2006, 01:27:59 PM »
Dual-core desktop CPU bout: AMD vs. Intel
By Rich Brown, CNET.com on 07 December 2005

Tags: amd | chip | chipset | core | cpu | desktop | dual | dual-core | intel | pc

E-mail to a friend Printer friendly version Increase font size  Introduction  Round 5: MP3 encoding
 Round 1: Day-to-day computing  Round 6: Video encoding
 Round 2: Gaming  Round 7: Price vs. performance
 Round 3: Multitasking  The winner is...
 Round 4: Photo editing
 
AMD



The winner is...

It wasn't even close.

After reading the round-by-round account of our dual-core desktop CPU prizefight, it should come as no shock that AMD's Athlon 64 X2 chips are the runaway victors here, laying out the Intel Pentium D and Pentium Extreme Edition 840 chips pins up. If we had to call out one chip, AMD's Athlon 64 X2 4400+ is an outstanding bargain given the competition, but as our results show, any AMD dual-core CPU will serve you better than its similarly priced Intel equivalent.If you're wondering why there's such a striking performance difference between the two companies' processors, it likely has something to do with the memory controller. Among the technological differences between the two, AMD's memory controller -- the component that sends information back and forth between your system's CPU and the memory -- is an integrated part of the Athlon 64 X2's chip architecture. Intel's memory controller, however, exists as a separate piece of silicon on the motherboard. The additional distance between the CPU and the memory controller adds to the processing lag time and likely plays a part in Intel's lower scores.

Whatever Intel's strategy, it doesn't seem to have held up. We're very interested to see what happens when the next generation of chips and chipsets start hitting the market in early 2006. But until then, AMD's Athlon 64 X2 should be your dual-core processor of choice.

Find out more about how we test desktop systems.

Intel test bed
Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard; Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI chipset; Crucial 1,024MB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX (PCIe); WDC WD740GD-00FLA2 74GB 10,000rpm SATA; Windows XP Professional SP2; Antec 550w power supply

AMD test bed
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard; Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI chipset; Crucial 1,024MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX (PCIe); WDC WD740GD-00FLA2 74GB 10,000rpm SATA; Windows XP Professional SP2; Antec 550w power supply.

CNET Labs project leader David Gussman constructed the test beds and performed all testing.



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 AMD X X X X X X X 
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2006, 01:29:35 PM »
Obviously you guys know nothing about gaming.


Intel is a joke.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2006, 01:30:47 PM »
Dual-core desktop CPU bout: AMD vs. Intel
By Rich Brown, CNET.com on 07 December 2005

Tags: amd | chip | chipset | core | cpu | desktop | dual | dual-core | intel | pc

E-mail to a friend Printer friendly version Increase font size  Introduction  Round 5: MP3 encoding
 Round 1: Day-to-day computing  Round 6: Video encoding
 Round 2: Gaming  Round 7: Price vs. performance
 Round 3: Multitasking  The winner is...
 Round 4: Photo editing
 
AMD



The winner is...

It wasn't even close.

After reading the round-by-round account of our dual-core desktop CPU prizefight, it should come as no shock that AMD's Athlon 64 X2 chips are the runaway victors here, laying out the Intel Pentium D and Pentium Extreme Edition 840 chips pins up. If we had to call out one chip, AMD's Athlon 64 X2 4400+ is an outstanding bargain given the competition, but as our results show, any AMD dual-core CPU will serve you better than its similarly priced Intel equivalent.If you're wondering why there's such a striking performance difference between the two companies' processors, it likely has something to do with the memory controller. Among the technological differences between the two, AMD's memory controller -- the component that sends information back and forth between your system's CPU and the memory -- is an integrated part of the Athlon 64 X2's chip architecture. Intel's memory controller, however, exists as a separate piece of silicon on the motherboard. The additional distance between the CPU and the memory controller adds to the processing lag time and likely plays a part in Intel's lower scores.

Whatever Intel's strategy, it doesn't seem to have held up. We're very interested to see what happens when the next generation of chips and chipsets start hitting the market in early 2006. But until then, AMD's Athlon 64 X2 should be your dual-core processor of choice.

Find out more about how we test desktop systems.

Intel test bed
Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard; Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI chipset; Crucial 1,024MB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX (PCIe); WDC WD740GD-00FLA2 74GB 10,000rpm SATA; Windows XP Professional SP2; Antec 550w power supply

AMD test bed
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard; Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI chipset; Crucial 1,024MB DDR SDRAM 400MHz; 256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX (PCIe); WDC WD740GD-00FLA2 74GB 10,000rpm SATA; Windows XP Professional SP2; Antec 550w power supply.

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Hey Prof. Hawking, I said the Intel Core 2 Duo chip. Now you're going to make me post all those links. What a tool. That test you posted is from a year ago, LOL. You're such a clown.

The E6700 isn't even the top end E6800 Extreme part, and it's taking on and beating the FX-62 in all gaming and multimedia tests by at least a 13% margin and often as high as 20-30%.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2006, 01:35:58 PM »
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07 December 2005

Intel Core 2 Duo wasn't even out then was it?

http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q3/core2/index.x?pg=18

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After years of wandering in the wilderness, Intel has recaptured the desktop CPU performance title in dramatic fashion. Both the Core 2 Extreme X6800 and the Core 2 Duo E6700 easily outperform the Athlon 64 FX-62 across a range of applications—and the E6600 is right in the hunt, as well. Not only that, but the Core 2 processors showed no real weaknesses in our performance tests. (I would say that Core looks like a more balanced architecture than Netburst, but at this stage of the game, Netburst just seems slow almost across the board.) No matter what you're hoping to do with your PC, a Core 2 processor should be a very solid choice.
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2006, 01:37:01 PM »
Companies listed as Members, Associate Members, or Contributors
(may include duplicates and/or subsidiaries, major companies are bolded, major companies common to both camps are also italicized)
 
Blu-Ray HD DVD
 
3oh!5 Creative, Inc.
Adobe Systems
Almedio Inc.
Alpine Electronics Inc.
AMC Co. Ltd.
Anwell Technologies USA
Aplix Corporation
ArcSoft Inc.
Asahi Kasei Microsystems Co.
ashampoo GmbH & Co. KG
ATI Technologies Inc.
AudioDev AB
B.H.A. Corporation
Bandai Visual Co. Ltd.
BASF AG
BenQ Corporation
Broadcom Corporation
Canon Inc.
Ciba Specialty Chemicals Inc.
CMC Magnetics Corporation
Coding Technologies GmbH
Conexant Systems Inc.
Cryptography Research Inc.
CyberLink Corp.
D&M holdings, Inc.
Daewoo Electronics Corporation
Daikin Industries
DATARIUS Technologies GmbH
Degussa
Deluxe Media Services Inc.
Digital Theater Systems Inc.
Dolby Laboratories Inc.
Eclipse Data Technologies
Electronic Arts Inc.
Elpida Memory, Inc.
ESS Technology Inc.
Expert Magnetics Corp.
Fuji Photo Film Co.
Funai Electric Co.
Horizon Semiconductor
IMAGICA Corp.
Imation Corp.
Infomedia Inc.
Intersil Corporation
InterVideo Inc.
Kadokawa Holdings Inc.
Kaleidescape, Inc.
Kenwood Corporation
Konica Minolta Opto, Inc.
Laser Pacific Media Corp.
Lead Data Inc.
LEADER ELECTRONICS CORP
Linn Products Ltd.
LINTEC Corporation
LITE-ON IT Corporation
LSI Logic
M2 Engineering AB
Maxim Integrated Products
MediaTek Inc.
Memorex Products Inc.
Meridian Audio Ltd.
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co. / Verbatim
Mitsui Chemicals Inc.
Mitsumi Electric Co.
Moser Baer India Limited
MX Entertainment
Nan Ya Plastics Corporation
Nero
Newtech Infosystems Inc.
NEXAPM Systems Technology Inc.
Nightjar LLC
Nikkatsu Corporation
NTT Electronics Corporation
nVidia Corporation
Onkyo Corporation
Ono Sokki Co.
OPT Corporation
Optodisc Technology Corporation
Pixela Corporation
PoINT Software & Systems GmbH
PowerFile
Prodisc Technology Inc.
Pulstec Industrial Co.
Ricoh Co.
Ritek Corporation
Sanyo Electric Co.
SDI Media America
ShibaSoku Co. Ltd.
Shinano Kenshi Co. Ltd.
Sigma Designs Inc.
Singulus Technologies
Sonic Solutions
Sonopress
Sony BMG Music Entertainment
ST Microelectronics
STEAG ETA-OPTIK GmbH
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Sunext
Taiyo Yuden Co.,
Tao Group Limited
Targray Technology International Inc.
Teac Corporation
Teijin Chemicals Ltd.
Toei Video Company Ltd.
Toho Company
Toppan Printing Co.
TOPTICA Photonics AG
Ulead Systems Inc.
UmeDisc Ltd.
Unaxis Balzer AG
Universal (inc. Music , Vivendi Games, Pictures)
VDL-ODMS
Victor Company of Japan (JVC)
Vidiom Systems Corporation
Visionare Corporation
Yamaha Corporation
Yokogawa Electric Corporation
ZOOtech Ltd.
Zoran Corporation

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2006, 01:37:33 PM »
HD DVD
 
3oh!5 Creative, Inc.
Adobe Systems
Almedio Inc.
Alpine Electronics Inc.
AMC Co. Ltd.
Anwell Technologies USA
Aplix Corporation
ArcSoft Inc.
Asahi Kasei Microsystems Co.
ashampoo GmbH & Co. KG
ATI Technologies Inc.
AudioDev AB
B.H.A. Corporation
Bandai Visual Co. Ltd.
BASF AG
BenQ Corporation
Broadcom Corporation
Canon Inc.
Ciba Specialty Chemicals Inc.
CMC Magnetics Corporation
Coding Technologies GmbH
Conexant Systems Inc.
Cryptography Research Inc.
CyberLink Corp.
D&M holdings, Inc.
Daewoo Electronics Corporation
Daikin Industries
DATARIUS Technologies GmbH
Degussa
Deluxe Media Services Inc.
Digital Theater Systems Inc.
Dolby Laboratories Inc.
Eclipse Data Technologies
Electronic Arts Inc.
Elpida Memory, Inc.
ESS Technology Inc.
Expert Magnetics Corp.
Fuji Photo Film Co.
Funai Electric Co.
Horizon Semiconductor
IMAGICA Corp.
Imation Corp.
Infomedia Inc.
Intersil Corporation
InterVideo Inc.
Kadokawa Holdings Inc.
Kaleidescape, Inc.
Kenwood Corporation
Konica Minolta Opto, Inc.
Laser Pacific Media Corp.
Lead Data Inc.
LEADER ELECTRONICS CORP
Linn Products Ltd.
LINTEC Corporation
LITE-ON IT Corporation
LSI Logic
M2 Engineering AB
Maxim Integrated Products
MediaTek Inc.
Memorex Products Inc.
Meridian Audio Ltd.
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co. / Verbatim
Mitsui Chemicals Inc.
Mitsumi Electric Co.
Moser Baer India Limited
MX Entertainment
Nan Ya Plastics Corporation
Nero
Newtech Infosystems Inc.
NEXAPM Systems Technology Inc.
Nightjar LLC
Nikkatsu Corporation
NTT Electronics Corporation
nVidia Corporation
Onkyo Corporation
Ono Sokki Co.
OPT Corporation
Optodisc Technology Corporation
Pixela Corporation
PoINT Software & Systems GmbH
PowerFile
Prodisc Technology Inc.
Pulstec Industrial Co.
Ricoh Co.
Ritek Corporation
Sanyo Electric Co.
SDI Media America
ShibaSoku Co. Ltd.
Shinano Kenshi Co. Ltd.
Sigma Designs Inc.
Singulus Technologies
Sonic Solutions
Sonopress
Sony BMG Music Entertainment
ST Microelectronics
STEAG ETA-OPTIK GmbH
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Sunext
Taiyo Yuden Co.,
Tao Group Limited
Targray Technology International Inc.
Teac Corporation
Teijin Chemicals Ltd.
Toei Video Company Ltd.
Toho Company
Toppan Printing Co.
TOPTICA Photonics AG
Ulead Systems Inc.
UmeDisc Ltd.
Unaxis Balzer AG
Universal (inc. Music , Vivendi Games, Pictures)
VDL-ODMS
Victor Company of Japan (JVC)
Vidiom Systems Corporation
Visionare Corporation
Yamaha Corporation
Yokogawa Electric Corporation
ZOOtech Ltd.
Zoran Corporation Acer Inc.
Almedio Inc.
Alpine Electronics, Inc.
Altech Ads Co.
Arcsoft, Inc
B.H.A Corporation
Bandai Visual Co.
Canon Inc.
Cyberlink Corp.
D&M Holdings Inc.
Daikin Industries
Daiko.Co,Ltd.
Digion, Inc.
Digital Site Corporation
Digital Theater Systems
Disc Labo Corp.
Diskware Co.
Ebistrade,Inc.
Enteractive Gmbh
Entertainment Network Inc.
Expert Magnetics Corp.
Finepack . Co.,Ltd
Fuji Photo Film Co.
Fuji Seiki Co.
Funai Electric Co.
The High-Defition Marketing Company
Hitachi Corp.
Hitachi Maxell
Hoei Sangyo Co.
Imagica Corp.
Imation Corp.
Interchannel
Intervideo, Inc.
Itri
Jp Co., Ltd
Justsystem Corporation
Kadokawa Holdings, Inc.
Kaleidescape, Inc.
Kenwood Corporation
Kinyosha Printing Co.
Kitano Co.
Konica Minolta Opto, Inc.
M2 Engineering
Mcray Corporation
Memory-Tech Corporation
Mitomo Co., Ltd
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co. / Verbatim
Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Moser Baer India Ltd
Nec Corporation
Nec Electronics Corporation
Nec Fielding
Nero
Nichia Corporation
Nihonvtr Inc.
Nikkatsu Corporation
Omnibus Japan
Onken Corporation
Onkyo Corporation
Paramount Home Entertainment
Pico House Co.,Ltd
Pixela Corporation
Pony Canyon Inc.
Ponycanyon Enterprise Inc.
Prodisc Technology Inc.
Pryaid Records Inc.
Pulstec Industrial Co.
Q-Tec,Inc.
Ricoh Co.
Ritek Corporation
Sanken Media Product Co.
Sanyo Electric Co.
Shibaura Mechatronics Corporation
Sonic Solutions
Sumitomo Heavy Industries. Ltd
Super Vision, Inc.
Taiyo Yuden Co.
Teac Corporation
Teijin Chemicals Ltd.
Toei Video Co.
Toho Company, Limited.
Tokyo Laboratory Ltd.
Toppan Printing Co.
Toshiba Corporation
Toshiba Digital Frontiers Inc.
Toshiba Entertainment Inc.
Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation
Toshiba-Emi Limited
Toyo Recording Co.
Transmix Co.
Trendy Corporation
Tri-M, Inc.
Ulead Systems, Inc.
Unaxis Balzers Ltd.
Universal (inc. Music , Vivendi Games, Pictures)
U-Tech Media Corp.
Vap Inc.
Video Tech Co.,Ltd.
Visionare Corporation
Warner Home Video Inc.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2006, 01:38:38 PM »
If you paid over three grand for Adobe CS2 you got taken for a ride.

Apple sucks.

I have a G5 as well and now its collecting dust.

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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2006, 01:39:33 PM »
Picking a Winner
If one format wins, a number of experts predict it will be Blu-ray due to its higher number of manufacturing and content partners.

Forrester Research analyst Ted Schadler said in a research note on October 5, 2006, that Blu-ray will win out because it has more support, with over 100 manufacturers compared to HD DVD's 10. According to Schadler, Dell, Apple and Sony will ship PCs with Blu-ray drives. HD DVD has Toshiba in the PC fold. "This deeper support will translate into a broader assortment of products, more retail shelf space and a bigger marketing budget," he said, adding that the Playstation 3 will also make inroads for Blu-ray.

These groups have huge corporate egos and major financial issues at stake and at least for now, it appears that this dual battle will go on for some time.
--Tim Bajarin, analyst,
Creative StrategiesHowever, content is also important. Schadler predicts that Blu-ray will eventually have more movie titles due to its broader support from the studios. "Content is key. The new formats are (for now) read only. This makes content even more important than in Betamax vs. VHS," says Dreze.

"At least with Betamax you could record sitcoms (off your TV.) Here, all you can do is play pre-recorded content. If there is none (available), there is no benefit from buying the player."

Tim Bajarin, principal analyst for Creative Strategies, agrees that the content selection coupled with the Playstation 3 and manufacturing partners favor Blu-ray. "With the studios backing (Blu-ray) and the potential for millions of Playstations eventually getting into consumers' homes, there is a possibility that it could end up with the larger share of this market," says Bajarin.

Not everyone is in the Blu-ray camp, however. Werbach questions whether either side will win. It's unclear, he says, why consumers will want a physical disc when they will have digital distribution for high-definition movies through either Microsoft's Xbox or cable operators who have invested in video on demand. In addition, Werbach says that as storage densities increase, PCs or digital video recorders could bundle dozens of movies on hard drives with automatic downloads for more titles. "The next-generation DVD players had a window of opportunity if they could have delivered a single standard at reasonable cost, but I suspect they have missed it," says Werbach. "I personally have no plans to plug in yet another box next to the TiVo, cable set top box, VCR, DVD player, CD player and Xbox in my den."

Protracted War
With the exception of Dreze, who predicts that a clear winner will emerge in six months to a year, most experts expect a long battle between HD DVD and Blu-ray. "These groups have huge corporate egos and major financial issues at stake and at least for now, it appears that this dual battle will go on for some time," says Bajarin.

The one wild card is a high-definition DVD player or discs that feature both formats. According to Bajarin, such a player would ease consumer fears and spur some demand. However, Bajarin notes that a multi-format player is "by no means the optimal way to approach this problem. The ideal solution is for the two groups to come together, like they did with the CD formats, and create a single player/recording format or platform that meets the needs of all consumers."

But cooperation between the two parties underestimates the corporate needs of Sony and Microsoft. The goal for each: Relegate the other's format to Betamax-like obscurity. "I suspect it will be a while before either of the two high-definition DVD formats folds up shop, as Betamax did," says Werbach. "Sony will probably be the last to give up, because it will ship millions of Blu-ray drives in the next few years with the Playstation 3. But it will be something of a Pyrrhic victory."

 
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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2006, 01:43:41 PM »
1.You dont have a blueray drive your lying
2.Amd are a distant second atm, my $250 6400 core duo overclocked at 3.2ghz spanks anything by amd by a massive margin
3.I have an 8800gtx, the fans on them are virtually silent, NO 8800 sounds loud
4.You bought photoshop?Lol i could have it in 5 mins for free.

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2006, 01:47:02 PM »
1. you dont have a bllueray drive your lying
2.amd are a distant second atm, my $250 6400 core duo overclocked at 3.2ghz spanks anything by amd by a massive margin
3.I have an 8800gtx, the fans on them are virtually silent, NO 8800 sounds loud
4.You bought photoshop?Lol i could have it in 5 mins for free.

bro, i have just bought a duel 30 inch dell screen, which is being run by a quad sli 8800gtx setup, sounds like a H bomb.

its makes tomb raider looks sick, really takes advantge of tomb raider direct 6.1 setup. ::)

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2006, 01:51:07 PM »
1. you dont have a bllueray drive your lying
2.amd are a distant second atm, my $250 6400 core duo overclocked at 3.2ghz spanks anything by amd by a massive margin
3.I have an 8800gtx, the fans on them are virtually silent, NO 8800 sounds loud
4.You bought photoshop?Lol i could have it in 5 mins for free.

Those Blu-Ray drives are $1,000 and the software to actually play Blu-Ray movies on a computer was just released. I doubt highly he's got one either. They're too new and too expensive to buy right now.

He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about with the Core 2 Duo debate.

Did you overclock the 8800? What are you using for cooling on the overclocked 6400? The stock heatsink and fans I've heard aren't quite up to the task.

Considering how large those BitTorrent files are you must have the fastest connection in the world to download half a Gig in five minutes.

If I were to do such a thing it would take me a few hours. That's if I were to do such a thing but since it's illegal I don't.  ;D

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Re: I NOW have PHOTOSHOP,Creative suite, Cs2/Premium.....:)
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2006, 01:52:29 PM »
bro, i have just bought a duel 30 inch dell screen, which is being run by a quad sli 8800gtx setup, sounds like a H bomb.

its makes tomb raider looks sick, really takes advantge of tomb raider direct 6.1 setup. ::)

Quad? Your board has 4 PCI-e16 slots?