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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2006, 03:32:37 PM »
I thought he was Aussie.  Even so, one guy with limited success correct?

Sonny Schmidt, the Samoan bodybuilder known for his quiet intensity and balanced physique, died of cancer in Melbourne, Australia, on January 25. The winner of the 1995 Masters Olympia, Schmidt was diagnosed with the disease in December 2003 and was told by doctors that he did not have long to live. Schmidt died at his Melbourne home surrounded by family and friends. He was 50 years old.

Born Edmond Alten Schmidt in New Zealand on September 19, 1953, Schmidt grew up on the small South Pacific island of Western Samoa. Eventually, he found his way to Australia, where he earned his pro card in 1989. He quickly distinguished himself on the IFBB circuit with his thick powerfully built musculature. The 5'10" 240-pound bodybuilder would compete in nearly 50 pro contests, his final appearance being the 1999 Masters Olympia, where he finished third. The highlight of his career was winning the '95 Masters O.


Population of Samoa is around 180,000. I would say his "limited success" was quite remarkable, as was the achievement of becoming a Olympia caliber athlete from such a tiny population.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2006, 03:39:27 PM »
Sonny Schimdt is part samoan..not full

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2006, 03:44:29 PM »
The answer is; they actually have brains that function above the level of the average 10 yr old, therefore they realise competitive bodybuilding is insane.
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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2006, 03:48:48 PM »
First of all, I can read without you bolding that text.  Second, are there any other big name Samoan BBers that getbiggers would have heard of?  If not, Sonny is there one.  That does not make a group of people suited for an endeavor.  Third, are you Samoan?

How many Mr. Olympias do you need from Samoa to be convinced they don't have bad genetics? Jeez...  ???

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2006, 04:07:58 PM »
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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2006, 04:28:53 PM »
What makes asians mediocre bodybuilders?



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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2006, 04:32:54 PM »
I said bad BBing genetics not bad genetics.  They are naturally big and strong, eg NFL linemen and linebackers.

Very few are NFL linemen, as opposed to others. They are big, but look at the native diet that they ate in Somoa, very high in fat content. Imagine thousands of yrs of that. Now imagine, eating all the fatty Am food. You'd blow up like a blimp too.

I remember hearing on the news how the Am diet is making native Hawaiians fatter, due to the fact they already have a naturally higher fat percentage than people of Euro or African descent.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2006, 04:48:12 PM »
Very few are NFL linemen, as opposed to others. They are big, but look at the native diet that they ate in Somoa, very high in fat content. Imagine thousands of yrs of that. Now imagine, eating all the fatty Am food. You'd blow up like a blimp too.

I remember hearing on the news how the Am diet is making native Hawaiians fatter, due to the fact they already have a naturally higher fat percentage than people of Euro or African descent.

Samoans aren't asian, neither are Hawaiians, Tongans, Micronesians, Maori.  They are all polynesian.  Polynesian's are naturally large.  My Grandmother, who is 3/4 Hawaiian, is 5'11 1/2, 155 lbs, solid at 88.  She still travels monthly, teaches hula, rides horses, does all of her own landscaping.  But she is not ASIAN.  Her older brother, my uncle, is 91, 6'5, 235. 

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2006, 04:49:14 PM »
Mexicans have the worst bodybuilding genetics, can't build a lot of size naturally and have trouble getting lean.
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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2006, 04:52:09 PM »
Many are linemen, esp in college too.  Many top linemen and linebackers are Samoan.

Out of all the linemen, in the NFL, epecially the top defenses, very few are Samoan.. Hell, i was watching the USC/UCLA game, and i saw very few Samoans, or in any of the AAC games (Duke is taking the national B-ball championships this yr!!). But if you needed big guys on the line, since Samoans have a propensity for big big, I can see why there will be more Samoans filling the ranks of the NFL and Div-! college.

If Samoans were great athletes, then they would rule the track and field, NFL, NBA,etc.

I went to school with some Samoans, and there are Samoans at my gym, I just see them as being big and fat.More so on the "big" part than fat, I guess you would call them stocky. The weight they are pushing up is more or less than any fat black, white, hispanic, paki, would push.

The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) got lipo because he could get that shredded look, because he's half Samoan.
And that "black vapire" bber (forgot his name), he has stated since he's half Samoan, it hard for him to get shredded.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2006, 05:07:08 PM »
http://www.arthurhu.com/index/asports.htm

Sport be race
I read that one time...
I can't keep track...Samoan or no Samoan

I think that once Asians in Asian countries start eating the more Protein based Western diet, you'll see more Asian athletes. Like over here in the US, it is not uncommon to see a 5'10-6ft Asian dude. Remember, Europeans were shorter than Am. Indians (just look at doorways of colonial houses) due to the Am. Indians have a heavy protein diet   

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2006, 06:04:09 PM »
FlexingtonSteele, are asians sneaky? 8)

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2006, 06:15:56 PM »
I think people are speaking of E.Asians - Koreans, Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, etc..

It's a mix of diet and genetics obviously. What percentage is diet and what is genetics is hard to say. It's funny though, many blacks living in the middle of Africa eating bugs have gone on to be big sports stars. I think genetics plays a big role.

Samoans look like they have black in them. Don't they have frizzy hair?
I think they are sort of an intermediate race between blacks and asians.

Arabs are a mixture of blacks, asians, and Mediterranean whites.
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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2006, 06:19:32 PM »
Asians have significant lower endogenous testosterone level:

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/5005463/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2006, 07:25:14 PM »
Asians have a specific gene degeneration that prevents them of achieving full development

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2006, 07:41:35 PM »
weaker bones and naturally lower testo in general (than whites and blacks) the smaller bones they have can be an advantage tho. Also, i dont think bodubuilding is a big sport amont the chinese, many of whom havent got food for the day. And japanese are more interested in bukkake porn and eating poop+ playing with electronic gadgets+studying. lets not talk about india...

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2006, 07:46:05 PM »
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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2006, 07:49:47 PM »
Too many carbs in their diet plus poor genetics leave them S.O.L

too many carbs..na that hasnt anything to do with it...maybe to little protein..but too many carbs? na...its lower natural testo production (also naturally higher fat % than blacks for example in general..)

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2006, 07:50:45 PM »
koreans and some japs got big calfs tho...

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2006, 07:52:18 PM »
FlexingtonSteele, are asians sneaky? 8)


They may be the sneakiest creatures on the face of the planet. Always in stealth mode, with their sneaky eyes and small limber bodies........

Maybe this has something to do their mediocre ability to build a quality physique.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2006, 07:56:42 PM »
yeah or maybe they cant handle the pain so they study and work and study and never lift big weight only big book, less time eating more time working and studying. buy big mercedes, but wear weird clothes, like poor man..but always expensive car. but cheap clothes.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2006, 08:13:31 PM »
this turned into all out genetic by ethnicity ,black = ideal muscular genetic's for bbing san's calve's.white's = cutler type large boned,eastern european look grow large,real eastern euro's get probably best grade supp's and are freak's other than using poor tanning product's.italian/greek/mediterrean shorter stature ,can get big and lean and make good bber's.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2006, 08:14:52 PM »
Lots of great Asian bodybuilders.

Sami Al-Haddad, Samir Bannout, Ahmed Haider.

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i think he means orientals Hedge, i would consider those fellows more Middle Eastern.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2006, 08:16:43 PM »
yeah i was talking about yellow dudes..not arabs...arabs got good bodybuilding genes.

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Re: What makes Asians mediocre bodybuilders?
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2006, 08:18:40 PM »
yeah or maybe they cant handle the pain so they study and work and study and never lift big weight only big book, less time eating more time working and studying. buy big mercedes, but wear weird clothes, like poor man..but always expensive car. but cheap clothes.
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