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thewickedtruth

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Help me understand
« on: December 14, 2006, 06:33:10 AM »
I would like to know what the big deal is with benching 315 or more for reps is in the gym? I don't understand why people get so hyped up and excited over it.  There was 4 guys standing around "spotting" someone in the gym last night cheering him on for his 5 reps of 315. I thought this was an average lift to do for the dedicated gym go'er.  ??? The reason I brought it up is one, I'm relatively bored here at the office this morning and two, I thought it was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 06:44:40 AM »
Psychologically getting to 3 or 4 wheels is a challenge and is a worthy goal. 315 may not seem like a lot to a pro but it's not light either to a regular guy.

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 06:45:53 AM »
Nothing like looking like an asshole on the internet. :-\

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 06:52:27 AM »
I would like to know what the big deal is with benching 315 or more for reps is in the gym? I don't understand why people get so hyped up and excited over it.  There was 4 guys standing around "spotting" someone in the gym last night cheering him on for his 5 reps of 315. I thought this was an average lift to do for the dedicated gym go'er.  ??? The reason I brought it up is one, I'm relatively bored here at the office this morning and two, I thought it was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.
In most gyms, someone that can bench 315 for 5 reps is probably in the top 2% in strength in that gym.  Im talking most gyms, not a gym where tons of the clients are pro's.
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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 06:59:46 AM »
Maybe it's time to switch gyms.  :-\

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 08:06:52 AM »
I agree with The Pumpster. 300lbs is quite an achievement, even for men who have been benching for awhile. Of course I'm speaking of regular BB'ing.  Joining the 400 bench club  is the Holy Grail of most. A natural gifted bencher is not that common, where 300 may seem even moderate to them. I've seem a few Pro's train and most of their benches are half to three quarter reps at best when nearing, or over, the 400 mark. Those 20" guns doesn't always mean you have a huge bench. I would say that their current trend is towards  using machines rather than regular flat bench presses, keeping that rep range at 1/2 to 3/4's. 

I could never see the attraction of the BP, believing that dip's (weighted) can be a better all around upper body movement. That would also include overhead heavy pressing movements. But that's just my view. I would be twice as impressed if someone could clean and press (or even jerk) a 300lb BB  than doing a 300lb bench for reps. Good Luck.

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 08:08:54 AM »
I have only seen one man ever in person lean and jerk 315 lbs and he looked like he should be on display in the fucking zoo instead of lifting in the gym.  It was incredible.

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2006, 08:40:35 AM »
You would see a lot of people C&J 300+ (or even press it) if it was a popular exercise and practice as much as BP'ing. But make no mistake, the Bench is king, for better or worse. If you ever get the opportunity to watch and train with Olympic lifters you would notice the extremely thick back/traps and shoulder development. Functional strength, plus giving that rugged look to the body. Good Luck.

Side Bar: If Colemen came out next week and announced that the secret to his body was the C&J, which he did behind closed doors so no one would know, than everyone and their brother would start  serious C&J training immediately, if not sooner.

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2006, 11:15:59 AM »
Most top bodybuilders will tell you the incline bench is a much better exercise for bodybuilding than the flat bench will ever be.
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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2006, 11:50:35 AM »
I agree with JPM!  Cleaning and then pressing 300 is more impressive then a 300 pound bench!

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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2006, 02:08:37 PM »
best i ever did with 315 is a set of 14 reps.
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Re: Help me understand
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2006, 02:33:01 AM »
Clean and press isn't a very difficult exercise, you make use of your whole body. The big problem is that people claim that you cheat ??? You used your legs or other kind of ridiculous marks,.