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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #150 on: February 10, 2007, 05:57:00 PM »
Oh I wouldn't be stupid enough to cuss out a cop who's just pulled me over. {lol}.
I do stupid things sometimes, but that's a level of stupidity I'll leave to others.  :D

Was definitely not saying you would... was just informing the public at large... Generalized "you" on the previous post.

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2007, 06:03:04 PM »
Was definitely not saying you would... was just informing the public at large... Generalized "you" on the previous post.

Don't get me wrong, ...I have balls enough to cuss out guys like kh300 ...so long as it's not in person.  :P
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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2007, 06:09:56 PM »
Don't get me wrong, ...I have balls enough to cuss out guys like kh300 ...so long as it's not in person.  :P

HAHA!


What? I can't read that... ;)

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2007, 07:45:15 PM »
Idiot, I'm in Canada. The 1st. Amendment doesn't apply. American law does not rule up here ...yet  :-\
Sorry racial slurs aren't my thing. FYI, I have cussed out cops, and was not arrested for it. I didn't break the law.

Oh.  That's right.  Thanks for the reminder.  That makes your dumb comments about the First Amendment even dumber grandma.   :)

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2007, 07:48:32 PM »
There is a law in certain states called "Curse and Abuse" that cops can charge you with if they desire... HOWEVER, many States have overturned that law due to it being the antithesis of the 1st Amendment and I believe that many states have overturned that law on that basis.

It is not unlawful to curse at a cop... However, if he's stopped you for a reason and you DO curse at him... I guarantee that whatever the charge is that he stated he stopped you for will somehow be proven or at least he will have enough evidence to charge you, even if you're not found guilty.

It's not illegal, however, it is pretty stupid... Unless you have a video camera... Then it's probably gonna be a lot better...


Unless he bashes your camera in of course. :D

I'd be willing to wager that if you walked up to a cop and started cursing at him and her using racial epithets that you would be arrested.  Disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, etc.  Something.  So yes it may be true that simply cursing and using racial epithets at a police officer are not, standing alone, crimes, you'd certainly be charged with some crime. 

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2007, 09:40:45 AM »
Oh.  That's right.  Thanks for the reminder.  That makes your dumb comments about the First Amendment even dumber grandma.   :)

Grandma? F**K YOU!  >:(
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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2007, 12:40:40 PM »
Grandma? F**K YOU!  >:(

No thanks.  I'm not into the whole geriatric, post menopausal thing. 

Would you prefer "tutu"?  (Hawaiian for grandma).   :D

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2007, 02:36:12 PM »
No thanks.  I'm not into the whole geriatric, post menopausal thing. 

Would you prefer "tutu"?  (Hawaiian for grandma).   :D


{LOL} brat!

So anyone over 21 is a grandma huh?

Ya, ...I said 21. I'm 21 ...and a peeny bit.  :P

THAT's MY STORY...AND I'M STICKING TO IT!  >:(
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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2007, 02:58:11 PM »
LOL.  Go get some more mail order degrees.  240:  proof positive that "education" does not equal intelligence.
 

IQ (our best measure of intelligence to date) correlate with academic performance. Teh correlation coefficient = 0,5.

Draw your own conclusions dickwads.

Ps: Who gives a shit about the schools "rep"? The quality of teh education should be measured by how much teh student retains after his edu. is completed, and how well he/she can put it to good use in teh real world. These factors are mostly determined by the individual and the individuals approach to the world of academia, not by the professors or by the schools rep.
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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2007, 08:30:02 PM »
{LOL} brat!

So anyone over 21 is a grandma huh?

Ya, ...I said 21. I'm 21 ...and a peeny bit.  :P

THAT's MY STORY...AND I'M STICKING TO IT!  >:(

Hey you know I'm just teasing.  But you started it!   :P

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #160 on: February 11, 2007, 08:31:40 PM »
IQ (our best measure of intelligence to date) correlate with academic performance. Teh correlation coefficient = 0,5.

Draw your own conclusions dickwads.

Ps: Who gives a shit about the schools "rep"? The quality of teh education should be measured by how much teh student retains after his edu. is completed, and how well he/she can put it to good use in teh real world. These factors are mostly determined by the individual and the individuals approach to the world of academia, not by the professors or by the schools rep.


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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #161 on: February 13, 2007, 12:49:53 PM »
:D

Quoting Gary Buseys stream of thought in real time = teh funny. :)
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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2007, 05:18:18 PM »
 :)

Updated at 2:54 p.m., Friday, February 23, 2007

Army refiles charges against 1st Lt. Watada

Advertiser Staff

The Army today refiled charges against 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, who gained international attention for refusing to deploy to Iraq.
The charges come after a military judge declared a mistrial earlier this month in Watada's court-martial trial.

Eric Seitz, Watada's attorney, said the Army refiled the same charges against the 28-year-old Kalani High School graduate. They include one count of missing movement and two counts of conduct unbecoming an officer. Watada claims the war is illegal and he would be party to war crimes if he followed orders to deploy.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Feb/23/br/br9051368427.html

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #163 on: February 24, 2007, 10:08:13 AM »
Another update.  Looks like trial won't be till this summer.   :(

http://starbulletin.com/2007/02/24/news/story05.html


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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #164 on: February 28, 2007, 01:44:22 PM »
Updated at 11:14 a.m., Wednesday, February 28, 2007

Watada's second court-martial set for July

By MELANTHIA MITCHELL
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First Lt. Ehren Watada of Honolulu could be sentenced to six years in prison and be dishonorably discharged if convicted in his second court-martial, which has been set for July.
 
SEATTLE — A second court-martial is scheduled to begin July 16 for an Army lieutenant who refused to go to Iraq with his Fort Lewis-based Stryker brigade and spoke out against the Bush administration.
The first military trial for 1st Lt. Ehren Watada of Honolulu ended in mistrial after three days when the judge said he didn't believe Watada fully understood a pretrial agreement he'd signed and that would have cut his sentence to four years.

On Friday, the Army refiled charges of missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer — the same charges Watada, 28, had initially faced. If convicted, Watada could be sentenced to six years in prison and be dishonorably discharged.

Pretrial motions have been set for May 20-21, with the court-martial scheduled to begin the week of July 16, according to the office of Eric Seitz, Watada's attorney based in Honolulu.

Seitz has said he will seek to have the charges dismissed as a violation of the Constitution's protection against double jeopardy. Today, he said he would likely file motions by April.

He said he and Watada still hope to reach some sort of an agreement with the military, but as of yet have had no communication with the Army, other than an e-mail listing the court dates.

"Our understanding is that they want to continue with this and we're happy to oblige," Seitz said.

Prosecutors would not comment on the case, Fort Lewis spokesman Joseph Piek said today. However, last week he said that double jeopardy was not a factor in the case because Watada's first trial "had not reached a position of finality."

"As far as I'm aware we are moving forward with the charges," Piek said today.

Military judge Lt. Col. John Head originally scheduled a new trial for March 19 after Watada's first court-martial abruptly ended Feb. 7. Seitz had said he likely wouldn't be able to make that date because of conflicting court schedules.

The conduct unbecoming an officer charge against Watada accuses him in four instances of making public statements criticizing the Iraq war or President Bush.

Watada has acknowledged making the statements and to missing a June deployment with the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, which is currently in Baghdad. Just before the mistrial was declared, he had planned to take the witness stand to argue that his motives were to avoid committing war crimes by participating in an illegal war.

Watada is currently assigned to an administrative position at Fort Lewis.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Feb/28/br/br1974382605.html

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #165 on: March 04, 2007, 10:29:25 AM »
Watada's attorney saying Bush should be executed? 

"Treaties, when they are properly adopted by this country, become part and parcel of American law," Seitz argued. "The president cannot select which treaties he is going to implement and ignore others. And his selective enforcement of the provisions of the law ... frankly, in my view, should subject him to a war crimes trial -- and, in fact, to the ultimate punishment which the statute requires, which is death.

"And if you want to quote me, you can say that," Seitz pressed. "I am more than happy to see President Bush and Vice President Cheney and Secretary Rumsfeld tried for war crimes. And I would be the first one to stand up and clap if they were punished as a consequence."

As the attorney for 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a Hawaii-born soldier assigned to Fort Lewis, Wash., Seitz has found a bully pulpit for his disgust at the war and the administration. But the high-profile case, which resulted in a mistrial last month, fits lock step with Seitz's long march to defend little guys against the government.

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http://starbulletin.com/2007/03/04/news/story02.html

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #166 on: March 06, 2007, 08:26:19 AM »
Watada's attorney saying Bush should be executed? 

I don't think I've ever argued that they (I include Rumsfeld) should be executed, but they should be tried for treason.


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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #167 on: March 06, 2007, 09:27:46 AM »
I don't think I've ever argued that they (I include Rumsfeld) should be executed, but they should be tried for treason.



Even if the punishment is death? 

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #168 on: March 06, 2007, 05:35:11 PM »
Even if the punishment is death? 

Not to me... killing is wrong.

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #169 on: March 06, 2007, 10:39:26 PM »
Not to me... killing is wrong.

Unless it's an unborn child?   :-X

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #170 on: March 06, 2007, 11:15:01 PM »
Unless it's an unborn child?   :-X

I think that's wrong too, but it's not my choice to make... much like I can't repeal the death penalty.

Nice try though... I've got two great kids and I would never have dreamt of aborting them... wasn't even a thought for a split second.

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #171 on: March 07, 2007, 08:03:46 AM »
I think that's wrong too, but it's not my choice to make... much like I can't repeal the death penalty.

Nice try though... I've got two great kids and I would never have dreamt of aborting them... wasn't even a thought for a split second.

Sorry for the confusion.  I wasn't trying to say you would abort one of your kids.  My statement was a general one and not directed to you personally.  I don't know what your abortion views are. 

I have four brats BTW.   :)

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #172 on: March 07, 2007, 08:05:40 AM »
this guy Watada is a hero and should be applauded for standing up for what he believes in.

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #173 on: March 07, 2007, 09:03:09 AM »
this guy Watada is a hero and should be applauded for standing up for what he believes in.

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Re: Treasonous Officer Just Can't Keep His Mouth Shut
« Reply #174 on: March 07, 2007, 04:38:30 PM »
Sorry for the confusion.  I wasn't trying to say you would abort one of your kids.  My statement was a general one and not directed to you personally.  I don't know what your abortion views are. 

I have four brats BTW.   :)

Can't imagine what the unborn child post could have otherwise been about...

I myself believe that killing is wrong... on all counts.

If someone were to do something to one of my children... would I kill them... I don't know, maybe, but I would still be wrong.

Something is not "right", just because i choose to do it.