Author Topic: Question on 2006 World's Strongest Man on ESPN right now!!!!! (Read 4732 times)

The Squadfather · « **on:** December 31, 2006, 01:30:14 PM »

how much weight is actually in the hands on the two car deadlift event?

haider · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2006, 02:07:32 PM »

real easy weight, abt 661 pounds.

chris_mason · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2006, 04:59:22 PM »

It is not 661 lbs. I can only venture a guess but based upon the number of reps the guys are getting I would say in the 500 lbs range.

bmacsys · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:09:26 PM »

Quote from: chris_mason on December 31, 2006, 04:59:22 PM

It is not 661 lbs. I can only venture a guess but based upon the number of reps the guys are getting I would say in the 500 lbs range.

Chris, why would they lie? I am no powerlifter so I am no expert on the numbers.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:10:30 PM »

Quote from: chris_mason on December 31, 2006, 04:59:22 PM

It is not 661 lbs. I can only venture a guess but based upon the number of reps the guys are getting I would say in the 500 lbs range.

yeah, i would say 500-550, they said 720 on the show but there's no way guys would be getting 15-16 reps with it because it's the same as a full range deadlift with the bar starting below mid shin.

bmacsys · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:13:45 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 31, 2006, 05:10:30 PM

yeah, i would say 500-550, they said 720 on the show but there's no way guys would be getting 15-16 reps with it because it's the same as a full range deadlift with the bar starting below mid shin.

Makes sense. I was impressed with Pfister.

bmacsys · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:14:38 PM »

2007 is the year of Ronnie Coleman in WSM according to Pumpster!

The Squadfather · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:17:45 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 31, 2006, 05:13:45 PM

Makes sense. I was impressed with Pfister.

yeah he was incredible along with the black dude from the Bahamas, he did 16 reps.

pobrecito · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:18:45 PM »

720 is the weight of the cars, but the weight itself (the cars) are only moving about half as far as the bar itself.

davidpaul · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:19:44 PM »

550-600 imo.

chris_mason · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:20:05 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 31, 2006, 05:09:26 PM

Chris, why would they lie? I am no powerlifter so I am no expert on the numbers.

I don't think they are lying, I think they are not fully explaining the matter. The load at the base of the lever arm may be that much (although that really doesn't make sense as the load being lifted would then be much lighter than I am guessing above) but I do not think that is the load being lifter by the competitor. I could be wrong.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:20:56 PM »

Remember Curtis Leifler tried his hand at the WSM and he was a bodybuilder if I recall he didn't do that great.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:22:11 PM »

bodybuilders are just looks not real

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:24:18 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on December 31, 2006, 05:22:11 PM

bodybuilders are just looks not real

Wow another profound thought from " bigdumbell " deep man , deep.

bmacsys · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:24:48 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 31, 2006, 05:20:56 PM

Remember Curtis Leifler tried his hand at the WSM and he was a bodybuilding if I recall he didn't do that great.

These WSM competitors are something bodybuilders will never be- actual athletes. This isn't meant to be a knock bodybuilders at all either. Its apples and oranges.

pobrecito · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:26:03 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 31, 2006, 05:24:48 PM

These WSM competitors are something bodybuilders will never be- actual athletes. This isn't meant to be a knock bodybuilders at all either. Its apples and oranges.

exactly...could you imagine Coleman trying to carry that anvil up those 50 steps? He would pass out.

Pudzianowski's strength and speed is unmatched.

bmacsys · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:27:34 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on December 31, 2006, 05:26:03 PM

exactly...could you imagine Coleman trying to carry that anvil up those 50 steps? He would pass out.

Pass out? He may very well die!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:29:52 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on December 31, 2006, 05:24:48 PM

These WSM competitors are something bodybuilders will never be- actual athletes. This isn't meant to be a knock bodybuilders at all either. Its apples and oranges.

There was a time when bodybuilders were much more athletic back in Reeves age , hell Franco was athletic , I recall Priest saying one time in a magazine that his cardio was walking from his car to the gym , times change but no and days bodybuilders can't even hit a 4 minute posing routine without sucking on o2.

chris_mason · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:31:16 PM »

This argument gets old.

A strong professional bodybuilder who is reasonably tall could train for WSM competition and probably make a good showing for himself. It is all about overall bodily strength and then the neuromuscular coordination to channel that strength into the specific events (event training). You need some conditioning as well to be the best.

Eddie Ellwood made for a respectable strongman competitor. There are other bodybuilders who have done well. Can anyone name them?

The Squadfather · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:31:24 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on December 31, 2006, 05:26:03 PM

exactly...could you imagine Coleman trying to carry that anvil up those 50 steps? He would pass out.

Pudzianowski's strength and speed is unmatched.

it wasn't 50 steps.

davidpaul · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:43:27 PM »

Quote from: chris_mason on December 31, 2006, 05:31:16 PM

This argument gets old.

A strong professional bodybuilder who is reasonably tall could train for WSM competition and probably make a good showing for himself. It is all about overall bodily strength and then the neuromuscular coordination to channel that strength into the specific events (event training). You need some conditioning as well to be the best.

Eddie Ellwood made for a respectable strongman competitor. There are other bodybuilders who have done well. Can anyone name them?

Gary Taylor didn't to badly at strongman

The Squadfather · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:46:22 PM »

Quote from: davidpaul on December 31, 2006, 05:43:27 PM

Gary Taylor didn't to badly at strongman

Gary Taylor did everything, strongman, bodybuilding, olympic lifting and powerlifting, probably the best all around strongman ever.

davidpaul · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2006, 05:49:27 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on December 31, 2006, 05:46:22 PM

Gary Taylor did everything, strongman, bodybuilding, olympic lifting and powerlifting, probably the best all around strongman ever.

I met Gary Taylor in 1998, nice guy.

amazing athlete.

onlyme · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2006, 07:03:39 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 31, 2006, 05:20:56 PM

Remember Curtis Leifler tried his hand at the WSM and he was a bodybuilder if I recall he didn't do that great.

Curtis was a friend of mine and he told me why. First off it was the weekend right after the USA's or some show he did and he was totally depleted and had hardly any energy. Second, is that they made himgo first innearly every event. He didn't get to watch the others to see the technique and learn from there mistakes. Curtis is easily one of the strongest BB's ever. He could keep up with Coleman I am pretty sure injust about every lift. He kicked ass in the Hawaii Strongman contests.

And the weight they said was being deadlifted with the cars was 661. I am pretty sure too that they wouldn't lie about the weights being used on national TV. Those events are pretty well monitored.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2006, 07:41:28 PM »

fabricated plastic on a metal frame is light weight. there were no engines/transmissions or interiors on those shitbox cars.