Author Topic: Why hasn't anyone disproven the True Adonis Principles yet? (Read 66827 times)

240 is Back · « **on:** January 03, 2007, 05:29:28 PM »

True Adonis came in second at the Mr Getbig, losing only to a pro bodybuilder. He was the most ripped guy in the show, and lost to Whateva on shape and muscle maturity, right?

While his theories of "a calorie is a calorie" and "It is possible to live on mcD food and reach 3% bodyfat have received criticism here - they have not yet been disproven. Why is this?

alexxx · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:31:46 PM »

Because no one would willingly eat birdseeds as a meal.

Lift Studios · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:36:02 PM »

Because no one care what Alf has to say since using getbig as a springboard to his attempt at MD fame.

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:38:35 PM »

because the principles themselves are obviously true. People only object because they don't like Adonis and he does his best to present them in an inflammatory way. Unfortunately for his detractors there are no solid arguments against the "principles."

Eat less, lose fat. Your muscle will be fine. You can still get stronger. Anybody who doesn't believe this can just try it for a few months and enjoy the easy results.

Bast000 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:39:34 PM »

In a caloric deficit you burn everything you eat, so it doesn't matter what the macro nutrients are.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:39:40 PM »

240 you are not too smart I see?

others have done the mcdonalds thing

others have eaten "worse" food and still cut...so explain to us what is so original about "his" theory?

Bast000 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:40:57 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on January 03, 2007, 05:39:40 PM

240 you are not too smart I see?

others have done the mcdonalds thing

others have eaten "worse" food and still cut...so explain to us what is so original about "his" theory?

yea but most people on this board are too close-minded and dumb to even consider it being possible.

Brixtonbulldog · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:42:37 PM »

With all due respect, and remember I'm saying with all due respect, those principles aren't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.

Seriously I would just rather wait until the next contest and when TA comes in looking like a big bag of ass there's your disproof.

Army of One · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:43:47 PM »

Its not anything new, most people dont do it because fatty foods take about 3 times as much to fill you up as the same amount of calories in clean carbs and protein, so you end up overeating unless you have a will of steel, so why bother making it harder for yourself?

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:44:32 PM »

Getbiggers respond to advertising and bb mag propaganda....Adonis could popularize the "principles" with slicked out graphics and a big name spokesperson. Reason and rhetoric cannot overcome the ingrained prejudices of irrational idiots.

tweeter · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Brixtonbulldog on January 03, 2007, 05:42:37 PM

With all due respect, and remember I'm saying with all due respect, those principles aren't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on.

Seriously I would just rather wait until the next contest and when TA comes in looking like a big bag of ass there's your disproof.

Too bad that will never happen. Bottom line is, the Adonis Principles work because they are backed by science. Tell us what about them is not scientifically justified...or try them for yourself and see if they don't work. Don't attack them for no reason.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:46:02 PM »

Quote from: Bast000 on January 03, 2007, 05:40:57 PM

yea but most people on this board are too close-minded and dumb to even consider it being possible.

Bast everyone on here understands basic math..we just don't like TA

expend > consume = lost

burn more calories than you take in = lose weight.

did he invent math also?

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:46:35 PM »

I think the dude does a good job of marketing himself. It may lead to something, especially if he ends up being the next "jared", the only drawback will be the nazi pics on this board.

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:47:40 PM »

no Adonis didn't invent math but I bet if he came on here and said:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA 2+2 = 4 it's too EASY!!!!!!!!

people would disagree with him.

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:48:16 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 03, 2007, 05:29:28 PM

True Adonis came in second at the Mr Getbig, losing only to a pro bodybuilder. He was the most ripped guy in the show, and lost to Whateva on shape and muscle maturity, right?

While his theories of "a calorie is a calorie" and "It is possible to live on mcD food and reach 3% bodyfat have received criticism here - they have not yet been disproven. Why is this?

let's look at this totally objectively. adonis was the most ripped, sure. do we have any reason to believe he ate mcdonald's and haagen daz to get there? not really. and sure his theories have been disproven. look at, say, layne norton. bigger and more ripped than adonis could ever hope to be, and a damn scientist with his diet/training.

his theories haven't actually been PROVEN. and he only got 2nd based on his conditioning, and we have no reason to believe he didn't diet strictly to get there (other than his word, which ain't worth much). he had less muscle than almost everyone in the contest. then to top it off he tinkered with his pictures until he shadowed them like crazy to show off as much "definition" as possible. in natural light he would look far less impressive.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:48:42 PM »

Quote from: tweeter on January 03, 2007, 05:45:46 PM

Too bad that will never happen. Bottom line is, the Adonis Principles work because they are backed by science. Tell us what about them is not scientifically justified...or try them for yourself and see if they don't work. Don't attack them for no reason.

my friend you have a lot to learn....there is no "best" principle. It is all about how your body responds to a practice

ectomorphs, meso.....we could spend all night talking about this

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:49:45 PM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on January 03, 2007, 05:48:16 PM

let's look at this totally objectively. adonis was the most ripped, sure. do we have any reason to believe he ate mcdonald's and haagen daz to get there? not really. and sure his theories have been disproven. look at, say, layne norton. bigger and more ripped than adonis could ever hope to be, and a damn scientist with his diet/training.

his theories haven't actually been PROVEN. and he only got 2nd based on his conditioning, and we have no reason to believe he didn't diet strictly to get there (other than his word, which ain't worth much). he had less muscle than almost everyone in the contest. then to top it off he tinkered with his pictures until he shadowed them like crazy to show off as much "definition" as possible. in natural light he would look far less impressive.

your not looking at it objectively...don't kid yourself

Alex Velickovic · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:51:10 PM »

To date, he hasn't listed any "TA principals". So whats to disprove?

Rimbaud · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:51:24 PM »

Maybe no one's disproved his so called "principles" because no one cares. I sure don't.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:52:00 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 03, 2007, 05:29:28 PM

True Adonis came in second at the Mr Getbig, losing only to a pro bodybuilder. He was the most ripped guy in the show, and lost to Whateva on shape and muscle maturity, right?

While his theories of "a calorie is a calorie" and "It is possible to live on mcD food and reach 3% bodyfat have received criticism here - they have not yet been disproven. Why is this?

i was in lebanon during this event, who won?

danielson · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:52:16 PM »

One person could answer this, ANDY MIGIZI. Wonder what happened to that dancing machine?

Bluto · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:53:45 PM »

dieting isnt adonis problem. putting on muscle is. he probably should wait 4-5 years before he goes on a diet again. that's how long it'll take for him to add some serious mass.

240 is Back · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:53:48 PM »

Quote from: Brixtonbulldog on January 03, 2007, 05:42:37 PM

Seriously I would just rather wait until the next contest and when TA comes in looking like a big bag of ass there's your disproof.

He is "1 for 1" in eating junk food and showing up ripped. And he was fat as hell before he started.

You're saying we should disregard this proof, in favor of "disproof" which will come at a future date?

LOL... um?

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:53:54 PM »

Quote from: danielson on January 03, 2007, 05:52:16 PM

One person could answer this, ANDY MIGIZI. Wonder what happened to that dancing machine?

lol, massive heart attack from overdosing on cake and icecream

TA told an overly obese man to eat more junk food...brilliant

tweeter · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2007, 05:54:19 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on January 03, 2007, 05:48:42 PM

my friend you have a lot to learn....there is no "best" principle. It is all about how your body responds to a practice

ectomorphs, meso.....we could spend all night talking about this

I never said you can't diet the traditional way and have success. The Adonis Principles are just much more enjoyable and you don't have you make yourself miserable; can you argue with this?