Who was this pro you speak of?
Same as described only that I also eat a second meal in the evening, since I'm maintaining right now. I'm insured and sick and can't train at the moment. The injury occurred shortly before the last pic taken (avatar). Not sure what to do next yet.
Injuries are the worst...what happened?
If I lived on the Adonis Principles I would be starring in this flickI tried eating anything I wanted, keeping my calories in mind, but still started to get fat and soft in the mid section. After eating what I call clean, I feel much better and I've even lost my taste for fast food. It was a plus 20lbs. of fat when using the AP and getting rid of it when I went back to the way I've been eating for the last 15 years. www.NutritionalEdge.org Everyone's metabolism is different and my system can't handle all that drive through stuff. 5 clean ones do it for me. 2 liquid and 3 solid with lots of fiber.
I am saying eat whatever you enjoy day in and day out. By default the diet will contain all sorts of things.Just meet the protein requirement and fill the rest with whatever you enjoy in the given caloric amount.I don`t advocate any food over another. Every food is beneficial.
True Adonis came in second at the Mr Getbig, losing only to a pro bodybuilder. He was the most ripped guy in the show, and lost to Whateva on shape and muscle maturity, right?While his theories of "a calorie is a calorie" and "It is possible to live on mcD food and reach 3% bodyfat have received criticism here - they have not yet been disproven. Why is this?
Well the principles that I'VE USED have not been around forever.I virtually ignored all protein requirements and got much better results than on low-carb, hi protein.
How many g protein a day?
Disproven what Rob? That he's trying to lay claim to fame from something that been around forever? (figure of speech) Again, this is nothing new, why these threads keep persisting is beyond me.
I seriously stopped counting just as an expiriment.If I had to guess, I'd say maybe around 70g/day up to 100.
this was a Jan 2007 thread when you responded.John Mccain was still a relevant conservative when this thread was started.
Seems to be on the low end, but still possible. I know that below 0.5g / lb LBM is not enough for me. I once did a cut this way and my body compositions changed for the worse.
What is your weight and apporx BF % in your avatar? How tall?
I'm 5'10", around 150lbs in that pic. BF probably around 8%. Full pics of my progress are in the webpage-thread of my profile.
No, no, no. In that pic on your avatar, on getbig, your bf is negative 3% not 8%.
Just looked at that thread---fantastic transformation! I have never been that lean.You were using the "eat whatever I want as long as I stay in a deficit" principles? How about cardio?
by the way guys just so you know, "BF" means boyfriend in gayland
Thanks!I followed the Adonis diet principles: enough protein intake (in my case 1g / lbm), caloric deficit, meet basic nutritional needs (vitamins, etc.). Zero cardio.
With my metabolism, I could never do it without cardio.How long did it take you?
there is validity to the " a calorie is a calorie " theoryhowever, I still think that some cardio is needed...and that cardio would be 2 tabata sessions a week </tabata pimping>
